Verdict with Ted Cruz - Bonus Episode： Daily Review with Clay Travis and Buck Sexton

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00:00:04.640 Welcome, everybody, to the Tuesday edition of the Clay, Travis, and Buck Sexton Show.

00:00:11.200 Our man Clay on a much-deserved vacation and college tour with his oldest boy.

00:00:17.700 So he'll be back with us on Monday.

00:00:20.100 He's taking the week to do the family stuff and enjoy himself.

00:00:23.480 We hope him, Laura, and the kids are having a great time.

00:00:27.000 We have a lot of news to dive into today, and things are heating up.

00:00:33.340 I think you could say that the initial honeymoon period with the media,

00:00:40.040 not that they wanted to give us one, but they were so shocked

00:00:42.900 that they couldn't even figure out a way to oppose Trump effectively in public,

00:00:47.100 that is starting to fade as they scream,

00:00:50.020 recession, recession, and authoritarianism.

00:00:53.940 So we shall discuss where all this is coming from.

00:00:57.100 We've got Congress right now wrangling over the continuing resolution.

00:01:02.440 There's government shutdown talk.

00:01:05.320 Oh, boy, up on Capitol Hill, we will discuss this.

00:01:09.000 Trump announcing new tariffs on Canada.

00:01:12.780 So he's going to impose 50% tariffs on Canadian steel and aluminum.

00:01:17.300 We'll discuss this.

00:01:18.260 This is a retaliatory tariff.

00:01:20.340 There's a lot of back and forth over the arrest of Mahmoud Khalil,

00:01:27.400 an anti-American, pro-Hamas, pro-Palestinian activist on a student visa.

00:01:35.980 I think that's a discussion we should get into in a little bit.

00:01:39.080 You've also got the aftermath of Dylan Mulvaney on The View.

00:01:45.540 It turns out the ladies of The View are as disconnected from reality 1.00

00:01:52.840 and cognitively limited as we had always assumed here on the show

00:01:57.500 or we had always discussed.

00:01:59.240 And we shall get into all of that and more.

00:02:01.500 Also take a bunch of your calls, 800-282-2882.

00:02:05.140 And I'll just say this, my friends.

00:02:06.780 It is important to note that this was all what we should have expected.

00:02:14.880 When you try to change the system, when you take it upon yourself

00:02:20.180 to challenge the way things are done,

00:02:22.660 in the biggest, most expensive government in the history of the world,

00:02:26.720 which I think is fair to say,

00:02:28.120 no one else is spending the trillions that we have spent

00:02:30.720 or we have gotten used to spending.

00:02:32.800 No one else has ever gotten $36 trillion U.S. dollars or the equivalent.

00:02:38.440 I don't know, maybe we can go back to ancient Rome or something.

00:02:40.740 But nobody else has run this up the way that we have in the modern era.

00:02:44.980 We've got some real problems to fix.

00:02:47.700 The initial flurry of executive orders from Trump was fantastic.

00:02:51.680 It was time for us all to high-five, do backflips.

00:02:55.860 And like I said, if you remember, you were listening to us at the time,

00:03:00.340 I said, enjoy this.

00:03:01.840 Go out this weekend, crack a beer or a Chardonnay or whatever it is you like to,

00:03:07.760 you know, in my case, some stevia-sweetened water.

00:03:12.680 Go, go, enjoy yourself.

00:03:15.680 Enjoy the victory that Trump had over all the forces trying to stop him.

00:03:20.420 Enjoy the victory the Republicans had.

00:03:22.900 Because things are going to get messy.

00:03:24.720 And we're entering the messy phase.

00:03:29.320 Now, it's not going to be what they're telling you it is,

00:03:32.460 which is that somehow this is all going to fall apart

00:03:35.220 and the economy is so bad and it's all Trump's fault.

00:03:38.800 That is to be expected from an anti-Trump media

00:03:41.320 that has lied to you about absolutely everything.

00:03:45.220 I've seen that even with the Heritage Foundation,

00:03:48.840 I think it's the accountability project they have,

00:03:50.920 they've looked at the auto pen signatures of Biden

00:03:56.460 on a bunch of things that he officially signed

00:04:00.680 and some of them don't match up.

00:04:02.860 And this, under a normal president,

00:04:05.500 under a cognitively functioning president,

00:04:08.160 you might say, well, you know, people use auto pens.

00:04:11.380 Did Biden even know all the things he was signing?

00:04:13.420 And if he didn't know all the things he was signing,

00:04:16.420 it's not really law, is it?

00:04:18.740 If some advisor just effectively forged his signature, right?

00:04:22.920 It's one thing for a president to have an auto pen signature.

00:04:25.240 Yes, my hand is tired.

00:04:27.160 That has happened before.

00:04:28.520 We know this.

00:04:29.140 So I'm not discounting that reality.

00:04:32.020 But if a president isn't even aware

00:04:34.560 of what is being signed in his name,

00:04:36.900 is that a thing that we don't pay attention to?

00:04:40.720 Does that not have consequences?

00:04:42.040 I think it clearly should.

00:04:43.360 But I bring it up because we have entered a new era now

00:04:46.660 where we have a president who is very much engaged

00:04:49.920 and advisors who are on a mission.

00:04:52.840 This is not the business as usual presidency.

00:04:56.540 This is not even the Trump as we got to know him presidency,

00:05:00.980 as in Trump 1.0.

00:05:02.360 This is clearly Trump 2.0.

00:05:04.140 This is something elevated and beyond.

00:05:07.240 The first go-around, there was a lot of on-the-job learning.

00:05:10.600 There were personnel decisions and mistakes.

00:05:14.400 Let's just be honest about this.

00:05:15.920 Trump is honest about it.

00:05:17.520 He fired a bunch of people.

00:05:19.600 He has had people turn against him

00:05:21.640 who owe their careers to him,

00:05:23.480 now in the media but then in government.

00:05:25.820 So there was a learning curve.

00:05:27.540 And there was, I think, from the Trump team also

00:05:31.020 the surprise of having to deal with

00:05:33.600 not just the media going all out against him,

00:05:37.360 but we remember the Russia collusion hoax

00:05:40.100 and the media, Democrat, intelligence community complex,

00:05:45.200 the apparatus, all going at Trump with everything that they had

00:05:49.580 and it slowed things down.

00:05:51.080 This time around, they have thrown everything at him

00:05:54.640 and they have been shown incapable of stopping him

00:05:59.560 from getting to his second term.

00:06:01.400 A magnificent thing, an incredible comeback.

00:06:04.160 That's why I told you, enjoy it.

00:06:05.920 Don't just look at the fight ahead.

00:06:08.040 You know, when you win the big game,

00:06:09.480 before you go to the state championship,

00:06:11.280 you still go out and celebrate.

00:06:12.800 The election victory was huge.

00:06:15.000 Now we get to fixing the country.

00:06:16.840 And fixing the country isn't going to be something

00:06:20.120 that just happens overnight

00:06:22.040 or even in the first quarter or two of Trump's term.

00:06:26.780 Remember, he hasn't even been in office two months

00:06:28.940 and they're saying, oh, look at the price of eggs,

00:06:31.060 look at the stock market, look at noise.

00:06:33.880 This is noise.

00:06:36.000 And there's also an important perception management

00:06:42.500 that has to go on here

00:06:43.760 where if you're going to contract government

00:06:46.640 and if we have become, for GDP purposes,

00:06:50.140 reliant on government's expansion,

00:06:52.560 as in too much spending,

00:06:54.240 the government just creates the perception

00:06:57.680 of additional value.

00:06:59.120 It's just numbers on a screen

00:07:01.000 or it's paying bureaucrats who do nothing.

00:07:03.600 I mentioned yesterday, 25% of new jobs

00:07:06.280 under Biden, government jobs.

00:07:08.380 The government is putting out 25% of the new jobs

00:07:12.680 that are being created over the course

00:07:14.640 of an entire 2023, I think,

00:07:17.020 and 2024 is close to it, if not the same.

00:07:20.040 That's not making any of us better off.

00:07:22.800 That is just expanding the scope

00:07:24.880 and price tag of the government itself.

00:07:27.440 To deal with that, though,

00:07:29.640 it's a little bit like going on a diet,

00:07:32.020 something I know about,

00:07:33.480 because you're going to be hungry.

00:07:35.500 And if we have to be hungry here

00:07:37.380 when it comes to government spending,

00:07:39.220 a little bit.

00:07:39.900 This is the thing.

00:07:41.320 It's all about proportion.

00:07:43.420 It's all about balance.

00:07:44.380 Trump is trying to restore balance.

00:07:47.300 Elon, Doge, they're trying to restore sanity

00:07:49.940 in the way that the government spends,

00:07:52.140 in the way that the government

00:07:53.040 takes your money in your name

00:07:55.180 and puts it to use,

00:07:57.900 in many cases very bad use,

00:07:59.680 in some cases just effectively

00:08:01.000 lighting money on fire,

00:08:02.500 to stop that process from happening.

00:08:05.180 There's going to be fierce opposition,

00:08:07.660 which we have already seen, right?

00:08:10.440 Especially when you start to touch these NGOs.

00:08:13.620 I think it was Elon who said,

00:08:15.320 and it's so right,

00:08:16.280 how is it a non-government organization

00:08:18.040 if the government is entirely responsible

00:08:19.960 for funding it?

00:08:21.480 That's just a cutout.

00:08:22.920 That's what we would call it

00:08:23.780 in intelligence circles, right?

00:08:25.200 That's a carve-out.

00:08:26.600 It's a proxy.

00:08:28.160 So something was very wrong

00:08:30.660 with that whole situation,

00:08:31.900 and now many of us are far more aware of it

00:08:34.240 than we ever had been in the past.

00:08:36.980 So that's an important win.

00:08:39.000 And now we're looking at the beginning

00:08:40.840 of stopping the spending juggernaut

00:08:44.640 from just rampaging forward

00:08:47.620 toward $40 trillion of debt.

00:08:50.420 It's not going to be easy,

00:08:52.360 and it is not going to be without

00:08:53.940 a little bit of rumbling along the way.

00:08:59.140 There's going to be some moments

00:09:01.640 where things are going to look

00:09:03.700 a little bit tougher

00:09:05.640 than they might have been

00:09:06.560 if we just continued spending,

00:09:07.980 but we can't continue the spending.

00:09:09.960 And this is why Trump has come out

00:09:11.580 and said that he wants to put the country

00:09:14.280 on a firmer economic footing.

00:09:17.160 He wants to do what he can

00:09:19.760 so that this isn't just about

00:09:21.740 what the stock market looks like now.

00:09:24.660 It's how far is your paycheck going

00:09:27.240 in a year, in two years, in five years?

00:09:32.400 This is about turning around

00:09:35.160 a massive part of the economic engine here

00:09:39.600 so that it is,

00:09:40.420 and really redoing parts of it

00:09:42.900 so that it can function more efficiently

00:09:44.640 for everyone.

00:09:46.820 Because we've seen what the inflation has done

00:09:49.580 to your ability to pay your rent.

00:09:52.060 We've seen,

00:09:52.880 if you are asset light in this economy,

00:09:55.820 meaning if you don't own a lot of stuff

00:09:58.120 that is productive,

00:09:59.040 stocks, real estate, things like that,

00:10:01.780 if you don't know,

00:10:02.500 then that all gets inflated

00:10:04.580 along with the inflation,

00:10:05.740 and so what it does

00:10:06.560 is it squeezes

00:10:08.020 those who are working

00:10:10.980 for paychecks for a living,

00:10:13.580 which is the vast majority

00:10:14.920 of the American people.

00:10:16.140 Those who are doing work

00:10:18.840 and trying to get ahead

00:10:19.960 and just trying to pay their bills

00:10:21.080 and do it the right way,

00:10:22.260 they have a tougher time.

00:10:24.560 And it is effectively a tax on them

00:10:27.300 to continue to spend

00:10:28.200 at the levels we have currently seen.

00:10:29.920 This has to be addressed.

00:10:32.040 This has to be changed.

00:10:33.200 And this is also why

00:10:34.800 you will see Democrats are,

00:10:38.020 you'll notice,

00:10:38.660 there's no spending

00:10:39.540 that they really want to cut.

00:10:41.640 They like the control

00:10:43.340 that this gives them.

00:10:44.200 There's a tremendous amount

00:10:45.300 of social engineering

00:10:46.700 that is possible

00:10:47.620 when you're spending

00:10:48.760 so much money

00:10:50.120 that nobody even knows

00:10:52.040 what you're spending it on

00:10:53.100 or who's getting it.

00:10:54.760 It is such a shield.

00:10:56.420 It is such a shroud

00:10:57.480 for corruption.

00:10:58.940 Because if you don't,

00:10:59.880 if no one really knows

00:11:00.880 where the money's going,

00:11:01.820 the numbers are so big

00:11:03.400 and there's so many things,

00:11:05.040 how can you ever get

00:11:05.800 a handle on this?

00:11:06.560 This is where Trump

00:11:07.280 and Elon and Doge come in.

00:11:09.220 And the fight

00:11:12.220 over the government shutdown,

00:11:15.400 I have a tough time

00:11:17.680 getting all that energized

00:11:21.860 about this one way or the other.

00:11:23.020 We've been through this before.

00:11:25.080 It's a lot of brinksmanship

00:11:26.700 and blame game stuff

00:11:28.180 and eventually the government

00:11:29.520 will be funded.

00:11:30.420 If they allow it

00:11:31.480 to be defunded temporarily

00:11:32.960 or the funding to run short,

00:11:35.600 I believe Trump then

00:11:36.740 is in a position

00:11:37.380 to just decide

00:11:38.240 what is considered essential

00:11:40.100 and what keeps running.

00:11:41.060 So there's that.

00:11:42.300 But here is Speaker Johnson

00:11:43.680 who is trying to wrangle

00:11:46.560 all of this.

00:11:48.100 And he's saying

00:11:49.220 that it's Democrats

00:11:50.580 who are taking this

00:11:52.940 to the point

00:11:53.320 where there could be

00:11:53.860 a shutdown.

00:11:54.460 Play one.

00:11:56.220 They're planning to vote down

00:11:57.200 the simple bill.

00:11:57.860 They are going to try

00:11:58.940 to shut the government down.

00:11:59.880 Every House Democrat

00:12:00.640 will participate in this.

00:12:02.020 It looks like that would be

00:12:03.320 a shame if it's true.

00:12:04.440 I hope some of them

00:12:05.220 will have a moment of clarity

00:12:06.520 themselves and do the right thing,

00:12:07.880 but it looks like

00:12:08.520 they're going to try

00:12:08.960 to shut down the government.

00:12:10.100 It's a striking new posture

00:12:11.560 for Democrats

00:12:12.200 who have always said

00:12:13.660 they've just been apoplectic

00:12:15.020 about the prospect

00:12:15.980 of government shutdowns.

00:12:17.280 Democrats have been insisting

00:12:18.460 they're fighting

00:12:18.920 for federal workers.

00:12:19.840 You're about to see,

00:12:20.980 again, on vivid display,

00:12:22.620 very clear the contrast.

00:12:24.120 You will see one team

00:12:25.180 that is working

00:12:25.960 to fund the government

00:12:27.320 and make sure

00:12:27.860 we do the responsible thing.

00:12:29.120 And you're going to see

00:12:29.680 another posing to CR

00:12:31.000 because they've now

00:12:31.880 exposed the truth.

00:12:32.940 They're not for federal workers.

00:12:34.040 They're not for anyone.

00:12:34.880 All the people they've said

00:12:35.740 in the past

00:12:36.160 that are going to be harmed

00:12:36.800 would be by their votes.

00:12:39.940 This is one of the challenges

00:12:41.400 of opposing Democrats

00:12:43.220 is that they stand for

00:12:44.960 whatever they need

00:12:45.560 to stand for in the moment.

00:12:46.720 They change their mind

00:12:47.460 on everything.

00:12:48.100 They change their principles

00:12:49.160 as if they have any.

00:12:50.080 They change what they believe in.

00:12:52.320 It doesn't.

00:12:53.180 It's about power.

00:12:54.320 And when you're talking

00:12:55.240 about the government

00:12:56.000 and how it spends money,

00:12:57.060 there might be no more

00:12:59.060 clear abuse of power

00:13:01.940 that Democrats can engage in

00:13:03.980 than what we see,

00:13:05.260 which is spending us

00:13:05.960 all into oblivion.

00:13:07.660 Tackling this

00:13:08.260 is a critical issue.

00:13:10.720 I've said it

00:13:11.300 from the very beginning.

00:13:12.180 Our borders

00:13:12.820 and the government

00:13:15.080 cutting it down to size,

00:13:17.040 cutting the spending down,

00:13:18.000 cutting the bureaucracy down,

00:13:18.980 the two most important missions

00:13:20.420 of the Trump administration.

00:13:21.720 We've seen excellent work

00:13:23.800 at the border so far.

00:13:25.000 Thank you, Tom Homan and team.

00:13:27.260 And credit to DHS Secretary Noem.

00:13:29.500 Credit to the people

00:13:30.220 that are doing what is necessary

00:13:32.120 to secure our borders

00:13:33.120 so that it's 95% down

00:13:34.720 for illegal crossings.

00:13:36.200 Interior enforcement

00:13:37.220 is the harder problem.

00:13:38.900 I will always be honest with you.

00:13:40.340 That is even more challenging

00:13:41.600 and that will require

00:13:42.800 more political will

00:13:43.860 and more infrastructure.

00:13:45.580 It's millions.

00:13:46.680 It's tens of millions of people

00:13:47.940 that you're talking about

00:13:48.780 who are at least possible deportees.

00:13:51.600 And then you have

00:13:53.580 tackling the government beast.

00:13:55.880 You see, the Democrats

00:13:56.900 had created a system

00:13:58.780 where they win no matter what.

00:14:00.080 Even when they lose elections,

00:14:01.340 they win because

00:14:01.860 the spending is automatic.

00:14:03.240 Because the bureaucracy is huge.

00:14:05.520 Because there's no accountability

00:14:06.720 in D.C.

00:14:07.780 And it's just one free-for-all

00:14:09.400 with your money.

00:14:10.480 You go to work,

00:14:11.520 you spend your life

00:14:12.460 and your time

00:14:13.420 trying to be productive

00:14:14.820 and provide for your family.

00:14:17.140 And the shenanigans in D.C. 0.91

00:14:19.400 means that you're a hamster

00:14:20.720 on a treadmill

00:14:21.420 that keeps going faster

00:14:22.400 and faster and faster.

00:14:23.640 And how are you supposed

00:14:24.620 to keep up?

00:14:26.500 That's not good.

00:14:27.920 And Trump recognizes that.

00:14:29.600 His team sees what's going on

00:14:31.580 and they are taking steps

00:14:33.760 to make this better.

00:14:35.960 It's not going to be perfect.

00:14:37.340 It's not going to be quick.

00:14:38.360 And it's not going to be that easy.

00:14:40.160 There's going to be

00:14:40.820 a little bit of disruption.

00:14:41.720 The markets may be

00:14:42.940 in some tumult here

00:14:43.880 for a few months.

00:14:45.380 Of course.

00:14:46.880 Of course,

00:14:47.500 when you're correcting a problem,

00:14:49.480 there tends to be, right,

00:14:50.800 and every action

00:14:51.980 has an equal

00:14:52.520 and opposite reaction.

00:14:53.380 When you stop overspending,

00:14:55.380 it's going to feel like

00:14:56.640 things are a little lean sometimes.

00:14:58.780 But for a vast majority of people,

00:15:01.340 I truly believe

00:15:02.040 as a vast majority of Americans,

00:15:03.540 this is clearly the way.

00:15:05.920 It has to be done

00:15:07.140 and it has to be done now.

00:15:08.480 By the midterms,

00:15:09.720 we're back to business as usual.

00:15:11.660 By the midterms,

00:15:13.360 we're just arguing over

00:15:14.940 how to move the deck chairs

00:15:16.180 on our fiscal Titanic.

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00:17:01.180 Welcome back

00:17:01.880 into Clay and Buck.

00:17:02.660 Let's talk tariffs

00:17:03.560 for a moment.

00:17:04.260 Not for a moment.

00:17:05.000 All right.

00:17:05.700 Strap in.

00:17:06.740 It's going to get wild.

00:17:07.920 We're going to talk

00:17:08.380 a little tariff

00:17:09.620 Econ 101 history.

00:17:12.520 Maybe we'll dive

00:17:13.920 into the Smoot-Hawley tariffs

00:17:16.560 back in, what,

00:17:17.500 the 30s.

00:17:19.500 This is a moment

00:17:21.580 where I think

00:17:22.100 it's important

00:17:22.660 to look at the basics

00:17:27.080 because things are getting

00:17:29.500 a little bit feisty

00:17:30.460 on the tariff front.

00:17:32.880 And let me just give you

00:17:33.600 the news on this

00:17:34.520 and then we'll do

00:17:34.920 a little bit of

00:17:35.440 a deep dive

00:17:36.720 into the analysis.

00:17:37.360 Donald Trump

00:17:38.700 from Truth Social

00:17:39.600 I'm quoting now

00:17:41.160 based on Ontario,

00:17:43.060 Canada placing

00:17:43.820 a 25% tariff

00:17:45.900 on electricity

00:17:46.700 coming into

00:17:48.260 the United States.

00:17:49.160 I've instructed

00:17:49.840 my Secretary of Commerce

00:17:51.520 to add an additional

00:17:53.160 25% tariff

00:17:54.860 to 50% tariff

00:17:56.460 on all steel

00:17:57.620 and aluminum

00:17:58.720 coming into

00:18:00.000 the United States

00:18:00.640 from Canada.

00:18:01.440 One of the highest

00:18:02.460 tariffing nations 1.00

00:18:03.380 anywhere in the world.

00:18:04.240 Okay.

00:18:05.280 So he says

00:18:05.980 this will go into effect

00:18:06.960 tomorrow morning,

00:18:08.180 March 12th.

00:18:09.460 He says Canada

00:18:10.080 must drop

00:18:10.660 their anti-American

00:18:11.640 farmer tariff

00:18:12.460 of 250% 0.71

00:18:13.820 on various

00:18:14.780 U.S. dairy products.

00:18:16.560 I'll declare

00:18:17.160 a national emergency

00:18:17.960 on electricity

00:18:18.540 within the threatened area.

00:18:19.920 This will allow

00:18:20.620 the U.S.

00:18:21.160 to do

00:18:21.740 what needs to be done

00:18:23.120 to alleviate

00:18:23.620 this abusive threat

00:18:24.640 from Canada.

00:18:25.960 Okay.

00:18:26.740 A couple things here.

00:18:27.780 First of all,

00:18:28.500 as we've already established,

00:18:29.960 because this is so important,

00:18:30.760 I understand

00:18:31.560 the economic consensus

00:18:33.360 such as it exists

00:18:35.800 among economists

00:18:37.200 is that tariffs

00:18:38.680 are almost like

00:18:39.960 a sales tax

00:18:41.100 or it's a tax

00:18:42.240 that consumers pay

00:18:43.780 and it lessens

00:18:46.220 aggregate demand

00:18:47.400 and so they just say

00:18:49.320 that's bad.

00:18:50.400 They just view tariffs bad.

00:18:52.000 They want total free trade.

00:18:53.400 That's the least theoretically.

00:18:55.360 The problem with this,

00:18:57.440 and this is why

00:18:58.140 I gave economists

00:18:59.200 a little rough stuff yesterday,

00:19:00.840 the problem with this is

00:19:03.080 that there are

00:19:06.940 a lot of tariffs

00:19:07.520 and a lot of protectionist

00:19:08.760 policies in place

00:19:10.020 all over the world already,

00:19:11.400 including with our neighbors,

00:19:12.400 Mexico and Canada.

00:19:14.020 So we're not starting

00:19:15.620 from a place of

00:19:16.680 everything is level.

00:19:18.560 Why are you making it

00:19:19.900 not level

00:19:20.720 with your tariff?

00:19:22.200 This is where we get to

00:19:23.480 reciprocal tariff,

00:19:25.280 right?

00:19:25.840 In the word,

00:19:26.940 reciprocal.

00:19:27.640 They're doing this

00:19:28.640 to us

00:19:29.320 and so we do

00:19:30.680 something in response.

00:19:32.220 If my neighbor,

00:19:34.120 Clay hates leaf blowers

00:19:35.140 and by the way,

00:19:35.780 he is spot on.

00:19:36.580 Leaf blowers

00:19:36.960 drive me insane too.

00:19:38.340 If my neighbor

00:19:39.020 is using a leaf blower

00:19:40.080 super loudly

00:19:40.840 and they won't stop

00:19:42.660 at 7 o'clock at night,

00:19:44.280 8 o'clock at night,

00:19:45.280 because as we know,

00:19:46.900 leaf blowers

00:19:47.820 should be

00:19:48.280 a 9 to 5 thing.

00:19:50.200 You shouldn't wake

00:19:50.680 anybody up.

00:19:51.380 You shouldn't keep

00:19:51.820 anybody from going to sleep.

00:19:53.280 Anyway,

00:19:54.140 some of you are going

00:19:54.680 to take issue with that,

00:19:55.480 but you're wrong.

00:19:55.920 If I then

00:19:58.140 start playing

00:20:00.040 loud music,

00:20:01.100 if I start

00:20:02.000 blasting Beethoven

00:20:03.280 over the fence

00:20:04.300 so that they get

00:20:05.340 the hint,

00:20:06.040 I'm not the noise

00:20:07.180 polluter.

00:20:07.800 I'm engaged

00:20:08.400 in a reciprocal act

00:20:09.800 of noise making

00:20:11.140 so that they will stop,

00:20:12.900 although maybe they'll

00:20:13.380 just love the Beethoven.

00:20:14.760 This is a total digress.

00:20:15.980 You know what?

00:20:16.440 I'll come to this later.

00:20:17.340 I actually experienced

00:20:18.560 something in Nashville

00:20:19.440 when it comes to

00:20:20.320 classical music

00:20:20.920 that I thought was fascinating,

00:20:22.380 but I'll tell you about

00:20:23.040 that in a moment.

00:20:23.780 I don't want to

00:20:24.080 weave too much.

00:20:27.240 I don't want to

00:20:27.680 weave too much.

00:20:28.300 Trump weaves,

00:20:28.900 I weave.

00:20:29.380 Without Clay here,

00:20:30.220 my weave can sometimes

00:20:31.360 spin off into...

00:20:32.540 So,

00:20:33.500 I'm going to get back

00:20:34.540 onto tariffs.

00:20:35.540 Reciprocal tariffs,

00:20:36.840 meaning they are

00:20:37.940 doing this to us.

00:20:39.160 Why would a country,

00:20:40.520 why would Canada

00:20:41.440 have a 250% tariff

00:20:43.820 on our dairy

00:20:44.720 going across the border

00:20:45.900 unless there were

00:20:46.900 some benefit to them?

00:20:48.740 Of course,

00:20:49.880 there is some benefit

00:20:51.200 to your domestic producers

00:20:53.740 and domestic industry,

00:20:55.660 and so that's why

00:20:56.700 other countries

00:20:57.260 do this to us.

00:20:59.620 Right?

00:21:00.220 I mean,

00:21:00.480 we're just looking

00:21:01.280 at this logically.

00:21:02.240 Put aside,

00:21:03.040 you know,

00:21:03.260 whether somebody is...

00:21:05.380 I mean,

00:21:05.700 Paul Krugman

00:21:06.500 is an economist

00:21:07.120 who got a Nobel Prize. 1.00

00:21:08.260 The guy's a moron. 1.00

00:21:09.060 So, 1.00

00:21:09.560 you know,

00:21:10.160 it's not like we have

00:21:11.000 to just sit there

00:21:11.740 and say,

00:21:12.060 oh,

00:21:12.240 whatever you say,

00:21:12.940 economists.

00:21:14.140 Now,

00:21:14.740 you look at

00:21:16.100 individual tariffs

00:21:17.540 on an individual basis,

00:21:20.220 and you realize

00:21:21.040 they are a tool.

00:21:24.140 It is a tool.

00:21:25.500 Just like,

00:21:26.680 for example,

00:21:27.720 sanctions.

00:21:29.080 Now,

00:21:29.500 that's more aggressive,

00:21:31.020 but,

00:21:31.120 you know,

00:21:31.420 sanctions are a tool.

00:21:33.220 Sometimes good,

00:21:33.960 sometimes bad.

00:21:35.060 Tariffs,

00:21:35.500 sometimes good,

00:21:36.260 sometimes bad.

00:21:36.960 It depends.

00:21:37.800 It is case dependent.

00:21:38.940 And this is what gets lost

00:21:40.740 in so much

00:21:42.320 of the discussion

00:21:43.000 about this

00:21:43.600 because people just say

00:21:44.740 they have this

00:21:45.640 automatic wave

00:21:47.900 of their hand.

00:21:48.640 Well,

00:21:48.700 all the economists say,

00:21:50.240 and I'm like,

00:21:50.660 you know,

00:21:51.740 what do all the economists

00:21:52.680 really know?

00:21:54.060 You know,

00:21:54.380 you got to ask that question.

00:21:55.620 What have they gotten right

00:21:57.040 about the economy recently?

00:21:59.440 Not a whole lot.

00:22:00.920 Now,

00:22:01.360 there are obviously

00:22:01.820 exceptions to this.

00:22:02.780 We have some great economists,

00:22:03.820 and we've had Art Laffer

00:22:04.560 on the show

00:22:05.020 and Steve Boer on the show,

00:22:06.080 and there are brilliant guys

00:22:06.880 out there.

00:22:07.260 But I mean,

00:22:08.140 it's like the same thing

00:22:09.400 with the foreign policy consensus.

00:22:11.800 If you listen to the

00:22:12.880 D.C.-based foreign policy consensus,

00:22:15.280 there's not a war

00:22:16.000 we shouldn't fight.

00:22:16.760 There's not an invasion

00:22:17.820 we shouldn't do.

00:22:19.040 You know,

00:22:19.240 America is the global police, 0.98

00:22:21.000 and they've been very wrong,

00:22:23.160 and we've paid

00:22:23.860 a heavy price for this.

00:22:25.540 With the so-called

00:22:27.360 economic consensus,

00:22:29.080 we have been

00:22:30.300 on the receiving end

00:22:32.880 of tariffs

00:22:35.000 and what you could say

00:22:36.240 are trade war acts

00:22:37.680 for a long time,

00:22:38.680 and we don't do anything

00:22:39.340 in response.

00:22:39.860 This is where

00:22:41.380 Trump was right 0.79

00:22:42.200 on the issue of China

00:22:43.260 in his first term,

00:22:44.280 and the D.C. consensus

00:22:45.320 was so...

00:22:46.120 Remember,

00:22:46.780 I say D.C. consensus

00:22:47.920 because a lot of Republicans...

00:22:49.480 It's not just...

00:22:50.020 Democrats oppose Trump,

00:22:51.120 period.

00:22:52.160 Democrats, you know,

00:22:52.920 Trump says,

00:22:53.680 hey, it's a nice day.

00:22:54.580 They're like,

00:22:54.780 it's a terrible day.

00:22:55.980 75 degrees

00:22:57.140 and breezy is terrible.

00:22:58.860 They don't care.

00:23:00.700 But there are Republicans

00:23:01.800 that go along with this

00:23:02.940 as well.

00:23:03.320 There are Republicans

00:23:03.920 that decide,

00:23:05.480 oh,

00:23:06.200 I disagree with Trump

00:23:07.480 on this issue,

00:23:08.040 and they were proven wrong

00:23:09.080 in the first term on China

00:23:10.100 in my opinion

00:23:10.860 and I think

00:23:11.500 in everyone's opinion

00:23:12.180 because even Biden

00:23:13.260 kept a lot of the

00:23:14.320 Trump-China policies

00:23:15.800 in place on trade.

00:23:17.660 We want to get them

00:23:18.820 to stop doing

00:23:19.580 what they're doing

00:23:20.480 so we are then creating

00:23:22.760 the threat of tariffs

00:23:23.960 creates an even,

00:23:25.560 a more even playing ground

00:23:26.900 for our producers

00:23:27.700 and our consumers.

00:23:28.860 Why should we have

00:23:29.800 less access to their market

00:23:31.920 than they have to ours?

00:23:33.800 Ah.

00:23:34.660 And this is, again,

00:23:35.860 where it's a tool.

00:23:37.180 Now,

00:23:37.360 we have the

00:23:38.080 Premier of Ontario,

00:23:41.520 Doug Ford here,

00:23:43.800 talking tough

00:23:44.680 about tariff fights

00:23:46.020 with Trump.

00:23:47.120 Play this one.

00:23:47.980 Let me be clear.

00:23:49.160 I will not hesitate

00:23:50.160 to increase this charge.

00:23:52.060 If necessary,

00:23:53.140 if the United States escalates,

00:23:55.080 I will not hesitate

00:23:56.100 to shut the electricity

00:23:57.560 off completely.

00:23:59.340 Believe me

00:23:59.840 when I say

00:24:00.600 I do not want to do this.

00:24:02.300 I feel terrible

00:24:03.140 for the American people

00:24:04.340 because it's not

00:24:05.260 the American people

00:24:06.400 who started this trade war.

00:24:08.280 It's one person

00:24:09.360 who's responsible.

00:24:10.620 That's President Trump.

00:24:11.720 I'd rather be working together.

00:24:13.060 I want to sell

00:24:14.080 the U.S.

00:24:14.680 more energy,

00:24:15.700 more electricity,

00:24:17.740 more critical minerals.

00:24:19.020 I want to make Canada

00:24:19.960 and the United States

00:24:20.980 the richest,

00:24:21.900 most successful,

00:24:23.220 safest,

00:24:23.840 most secure...

00:24:24.440 Anyway,

00:24:25.440 the point is

00:24:26.280 he's throwing down

00:24:27.560 with Trump.

00:24:28.500 Now they're saying

00:24:29.080 they're going to make

00:24:29.700 our electricity cost

00:24:30.660 more specifically

00:24:31.340 to Minnesota,

00:24:32.700 Michigan,

00:24:33.220 and New York,

00:24:34.220 which get electricity

00:24:35.320 across the border

00:24:36.360 from Canada.

00:24:37.720 So they're going to

00:24:38.120 drive up energy prices

00:24:39.220 on us.

00:24:40.340 Trump is saying,

00:24:40.940 don't worry,

00:24:41.320 we're going to handle this.

00:24:43.080 Here's the way

00:24:43.760 to handle it.

00:24:44.620 We want also things

00:24:46.080 that aren't necessarily

00:24:47.000 purely economic as well,

00:24:48.800 which is where,

00:24:49.700 more so with Mexico 0.99

00:24:50.600 but also with Canada,

00:24:51.620 we want border cooperation.

00:24:54.220 So, see,

00:24:55.140 people say,

00:24:55.640 again,

00:24:55.960 tariffs are a tool.

00:24:57.800 Okay,

00:24:58.560 will something be

00:24:59.320 more expensive

00:25:00.940 as a result of tariff,

00:25:02.120 particularly over

00:25:02.720 a relatively short period of time?

00:25:04.240 Yes.

00:25:05.180 But are there

00:25:05.600 more important things

00:25:06.680 than the cost of goods

00:25:07.900 in that one sector

00:25:09.020 for that period of time?

00:25:11.240 This is a decision

00:25:12.280 to be made.

00:25:13.660 Right?

00:25:14.020 What is more important

00:25:15.240 that we keep,

00:25:16.820 I don't know,

00:25:17.180 the cost of textiles

00:25:19.560 brought in from Mexico,

00:25:21.260 although I think

00:25:21.540 those are even brought in

00:25:22.260 mostly from Southeast Asia now,

00:25:23.700 but whatever,

00:25:24.660 the cost of avocados,

00:25:26.320 that's what we always,

00:25:26.980 oh my gosh,

00:25:28.400 if we do anything

00:25:29.160 with Mexico in trade,

00:25:30.820 your avocado toast

00:25:32.460 is going to be,

00:25:33.020 and that's always

00:25:33.580 a cheap shot

00:25:34.200 they take at us

00:25:34.840 millennials and Gen Z

00:25:35.880 with the avocado.

00:25:36.440 Avocado toast is delicious.

00:25:37.640 But they say

00:25:38.660 your avocado

00:25:39.280 is going to be

00:25:39.820 so expensive.

00:25:41.040 All right.

00:25:42.380 If a 50% increase

00:25:45.140 in the cost of avocados

00:25:46.500 is something

00:25:48.400 that we're willing

00:25:49.060 to bear

00:25:49.620 in order to get

00:25:50.720 a 50% reduction

00:25:52.860 in,

00:25:53.880 I don't know,

00:25:54.860 fentanyl seizures

00:25:55.580 at the border,

00:25:56.280 is that worth it?

00:25:57.720 Again,

00:25:58.540 it is a tool.

00:26:00.180 It's something

00:26:00.920 that Trump is using.

00:26:02.060 Did Trump blow up

00:26:02.920 the economy?

00:26:03.560 And this is the other part

00:26:04.400 of this I get to as well.

00:26:05.360 Did Trump blow up

00:26:06.220 the economy

00:26:06.640 in the first administration

00:26:07.740 when he was doing

00:26:09.140 these different maneuvers

00:26:10.120 on trade,

00:26:10.780 when he negotiated

00:26:11.580 the U.S.-Canada-Mexico agreement?

00:26:14.080 What is the record

00:26:15.040 of Trump on the economy?

00:26:17.180 Phenomenally strong,

00:26:18.060 right?

00:26:18.860 Who knows more

00:26:19.960 than Trump

00:26:20.740 who has been

00:26:21.300 in a position

00:26:21.940 of leadership,

00:26:22.980 who has been

00:26:23.240 a president

00:26:23.740 in recent memory?

00:26:27.340 No one.

00:26:28.460 No one is better

00:26:29.480 on the economy

00:26:30.180 than Trump,

00:26:31.240 I would say,

00:26:31.920 as president

00:26:32.380 in my lifetime.

00:26:33.240 Better than Bush,

00:26:33.900 better than Obama,

00:26:34.460 obviously better

00:26:35.320 than Biden.

00:26:37.520 I mean,

00:26:37.760 you can go back

00:26:38.360 to Reagan,

00:26:38.880 but there are

00:26:39.260 some things

00:26:39.780 that I would

00:26:40.120 quibble with

00:26:41.280 when it comes

00:26:41.860 to some of,

00:26:42.960 well,

00:26:43.780 really on immigration

00:26:44.860 with Reagan.

00:26:45.400 That's where

00:26:45.840 we have a departure

00:26:46.620 more so than

00:26:47.380 on the economy.

00:26:48.000 Nonetheless,

00:26:49.180 I think that Trump

00:26:50.540 has earned

00:26:51.760 the leeway

00:26:52.460 to pursue

00:26:53.860 these paths

00:26:54.840 without people

00:26:56.580 freaking out, 0.76

00:26:57.540 at least on our side.

00:26:58.760 The Democrats

00:26:59.180 are going to freak out

00:26:59.960 no matter what,

00:27:01.200 but on our side

00:27:02.020 of things,

00:27:03.420 it's going to be

00:27:04.220 a little bit

00:27:06.340 of time

00:27:06.940 and there's going

00:27:08.880 to be a little bit

00:27:09.660 of disruption

00:27:10.220 because to be

00:27:11.280 a disruptor

00:27:12.800 to the system

00:27:14.500 requires

00:27:15.660 some disruption.

00:27:18.360 This is very

00:27:19.320 straightforward.

00:27:20.520 You're not going

00:27:21.180 to fix this stuff

00:27:22.200 without there being

00:27:23.160 a little bit of,

00:27:24.000 whoa,

00:27:24.400 okay,

00:27:24.880 and there's going

00:27:25.940 to be kicking

00:27:27.200 and screaming 0.96

00:27:27.760 from bureaucrats

00:27:30.240 in the deep state

00:27:30.900 and the Democrats

00:27:31.520 and the anti-Trump media

00:27:33.220 that's looking

00:27:33.720 for anything to say

00:27:34.780 that is negative

00:27:35.420 for Trump.

00:27:36.740 So,

00:27:37.320 when we talk

00:27:38.240 about tariffs,

00:27:38.940 I just think

00:27:39.440 it's important

00:27:40.080 to put it in

00:27:41.240 the context

00:27:42.400 of,

00:27:42.800 one,

00:27:43.080 it's a negotiating tool.

00:27:44.260 Some of these tariffs

00:27:44.760 won't even go into effect.

00:27:46.480 Two,

00:27:47.020 they're reciprocal tariffs.

00:27:48.220 They are in response

00:27:49.720 to,

00:27:50.200 in a lot of cases,

00:27:51.380 tariffs that already exist

00:27:52.600 with other countries.

00:27:53.340 So we're saying,

00:27:53.660 hey,

00:27:53.960 knock that off

00:27:54.840 and we'll knock this off.

00:27:55.860 What's wrong with that?

00:27:57.880 I don't understand why.

00:27:59.340 Why should we say

00:28:00.140 that other countries

00:28:00.900 can punish our access

00:28:02.680 to their markets

00:28:03.340 and punish our producers

00:28:04.400 but we can't do the same?

00:28:06.920 And then three,

00:28:07.620 sometimes there are things

00:28:08.440 that are more important

00:28:09.260 than an increase

00:28:11.280 in the cost

00:28:11.840 in a certain industry

00:28:12.660 at a certain time.

00:28:13.920 This is really where

00:28:14.560 I get into the agreement

00:28:15.440 on Mexico,

00:28:17.100 with Mexico

00:28:17.720 on border issues.

00:28:19.640 That's a critical

00:28:20.500 U.S. national security

00:28:23.080 and sovereignty interest.

00:28:24.960 It's not just

00:28:25.780 about the price

00:28:26.400 of avocados.

00:28:28.000 So with that in mind,

00:28:29.520 I understand

00:28:30.260 we don't want

00:28:31.420 things to get crazy.

00:28:32.860 We don't want prices

00:28:33.780 to skyrocket.

00:28:34.780 The Trump administration

00:28:35.460 is sensitive to it

00:28:36.620 but just remember

00:28:37.820 the same people

00:28:39.420 who are criticizing this

00:28:41.340 with the most fervor

00:28:43.500 in the media

00:28:45.340 and in the commentary

00:28:46.220 were the ones

00:28:47.100 who were telling you

00:28:47.540 that Joe Biden

00:28:47.980 was sharp as a tack.

00:28:48.920 Why would you believe

00:28:49.560 them now?

00:28:50.820 Why do they have credibility

00:28:52.480 now on this issue?

00:28:53.540 So we give it

00:28:55.440 some time.

00:28:56.320 We let this play out.

00:28:57.720 We let Trump

00:28:58.840 do what he does.

00:29:01.280 Okay?

00:29:02.260 He's got Elon Musk.

00:29:03.760 You got people

00:29:04.380 running around Democrats. 1.00

00:29:05.520 Elon Musk is dumb. 1.00

00:29:07.080 Anybody who tells you 1.00

00:29:08.020 Elon Musk is dumb 0.99

00:29:08.980 shouldn't be listened 1.00

00:29:10.140 to on anything

00:29:10.920 and I don't know

00:29:11.820 how they can even

00:29:12.380 tie their own shoes.

00:29:13.620 They shouldn't be

00:29:14.200 listened to on a

00:29:14.780 single issue period

00:29:15.540 full stop.

00:29:16.080 All right?

00:29:17.760 We've got very smart people.

00:29:19.660 I do not have concerns

00:29:20.840 especially on the

00:29:22.120 economic and budget

00:29:23.520 cutting side

00:29:24.080 of this administration.

00:29:25.280 You have an all-star team

00:29:26.800 that has been assembled.

00:29:28.460 Look at the people

00:29:29.260 who are criticizing it.

00:29:30.760 They, I mean,

00:29:31.320 when I say,

00:29:31.760 look, it's okay to say

00:29:32.940 I disagree with this tariff

00:29:33.920 or that tariff.

00:29:34.360 That's fine.

00:29:34.880 I mean the ones

00:29:35.560 who are saying recession.

00:29:36.600 It's going to be terrible.

00:29:37.860 They're trying to induce

00:29:39.060 fear in people

00:29:40.320 to turn them against

00:29:41.780 what Trump is trying to do.

00:29:43.860 This is the moment

00:29:45.560 where we have to

00:29:47.100 sort of steal our spines

00:29:48.160 and say,

00:29:48.520 all right, let's go.

00:29:49.760 We wanted this ride.

00:29:50.960 We said,

00:29:51.500 we said,

00:29:52.040 Trump,

00:29:52.600 I'm tall enough

00:29:53.980 for the roller coaster.

00:29:55.220 Let's get on the roller coaster.

00:29:57.400 It's going to be fun.

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00:29:59.640 But there are going to be

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00:32:06.620 for the ombudsman here

00:32:08.020 which I guess I have to play

00:32:09.580 the ombudsman for myself

00:32:10.920 for today.

00:32:12.980 My wife pointed out

00:32:14.280 as she was listening

00:32:15.020 on the way back in

00:32:16.320 from being out and about

00:32:18.000 that I said the three-year,

00:32:19.520 I meant the five-year anniversary

00:32:21.000 of the COVID lockdowns

00:32:24.460 went into effect now

00:32:25.360 and I won't spend much time on it

00:32:28.440 because there's a lot

00:32:28.860 to talk about now

00:32:29.680 and that was five years ago

00:32:30.720 but it was insane

00:32:32.460 and I am very proud

00:32:34.640 that I opposed

00:32:35.800 the lockdowns

00:32:37.000 by the first week of,

00:32:39.100 I mean,

00:32:39.340 openly opposed

00:32:40.520 the whole thing

00:32:41.340 as soon as

00:32:42.680 two weeks to slow,

00:32:43.680 or was it 10 days

00:32:44.320 or two weeks,

00:32:44.840 two weeks to slow the spread?

00:32:45.940 I'm even forgetting now.

00:32:47.360 10 days to slow the spread,

00:32:48.600 whatever it was.

00:32:49.640 As soon as that was over,

00:32:50.640 I was like,

00:32:50.920 okay, let's go,

00:32:51.800 back to life.

00:32:52.860 We gave the hospital capacity,

00:32:55.620 we gave them time

00:32:56.440 to get ready

00:32:56.900 and catch up

00:32:57.560 and then they said no

00:32:59.020 and then we realized

00:33:00.720 it was a bait and switch

00:33:01.500 and then we realized

00:33:02.180 that we were getting

00:33:02.720 a little trial run

00:33:03.580 of authoritarianism

00:33:04.620 and it was the health bureaucracy,

00:33:09.440 it's like it had taken over

00:33:10.880 the government

00:33:11.380 and certainly at the state level

00:33:13.200 we saw just madness

00:33:14.820 and I'm very,

00:33:16.880 very thankful

00:33:17.600 to Donald Trump

00:33:19.100 for allowing the state of Florida,

00:33:21.620 remember he did not come down hard

00:33:23.720 and everyone wanted,

00:33:24.520 oh, the federal government,

00:33:25.820 he allowed the state of Florida

00:33:26.940 to be a laboratory of freedom

00:33:28.660 during COVID

00:33:29.320 and Governor DeSantis

00:33:30.540 for being the best,

00:33:32.640 nobody was perfect,

00:33:33.900 everybody had a little period

00:33:35.900 of a few weeks or so

00:33:36.980 or a couple of months

00:33:37.760 where they were allowing restrictions

00:33:39.760 in their states

00:33:40.720 but some people figured out

00:33:43.660 what was going on pretty quickly

00:33:44.840 and others,

00:33:45.480 like the Democrats,

00:33:46.800 just kept getting crazier 0.97

00:33:47.920 and crazier for years,

00:33:49.500 crazier and crazier.

00:33:51.200 So that,

00:33:51.700 I just wanted to know,

00:33:52.280 yes,

00:33:52.540 it's five years,

00:33:53.200 not three years.

00:33:54.360 It is amazing now,

00:33:55.480 I really think of my life

00:33:57.660 in my mind

00:33:58.440 and I'm sure I'm not the only one,

00:34:00.740 there are two events,

00:34:04.040 historical events

00:34:05.060 that are my,

00:34:06.440 my sort of before and after

00:34:10.340 for periods, right?

00:34:11.740 It's like when did the,

00:34:12.840 when did the medieval period

00:34:14.820 turn into the renaissance,

00:34:17.000 turn into,

00:34:17.400 you know,

00:34:18.460 those time markers

00:34:19.620 and it's 9-11

00:34:21.220 and COVID lockdowns.

00:34:23.540 Those are just two things

00:34:25.460 in my mind

00:34:26.240 that there's,

00:34:27.060 there was the before

00:34:28.240 and after world

00:34:29.160 that I lived in

00:34:30.300 and the before and after world

00:34:31.760 that I lived in with COVID.

00:34:33.740 So those are two,

00:34:35.040 two big things.

00:34:36.200 The other OmsBudsman note

00:34:37.940 that I would point out is,

00:34:39.640 yes,

00:34:40.200 I know that I need a haircut

00:34:41.260 for those of you

00:34:41.880 who are watching

00:34:42.480 on the video stream.

00:34:44.400 No,

00:34:44.900 I do not use a weed whacker

00:34:46.260 and I think that's very mean.

00:34:49.700 So yes,

00:34:50.200 I'm getting a haircut

00:34:50.920 probably even tomorrow.

00:34:52.780 I'll go see a couple of my,

00:34:54.520 I got a couple of Cuban-American friends here

00:34:56.480 who do a great job,

00:34:57.780 nice and quick.

00:34:58.560 They don't want to like

00:34:59.760 get chatty with me.

00:35:01.600 They just do a great job

00:35:02.640 cutting the hair

00:35:03.120 and they bring me

00:35:03.900 the Cuban coffee

00:35:05.340 and just a little tiny bit of it.

00:35:07.220 That stuff is good.

00:35:09.900 Almost Crockett level good,

00:35:11.020 I'm telling you.

00:35:12.460 All right,

00:35:13.000 so yes,

00:35:14.880 it is not in fact a,

00:35:17.740 you know,

00:35:18.120 I do not have a woolly mammoth

00:35:19.660 on my head.

00:35:20.440 All these things

00:35:21.060 that people say,

00:35:21.760 untrue.

00:35:22.880 Untrue,

00:35:23.520 fake news,

00:35:24.480 no woolly mammoth

00:35:25.300 on Buck's head.

00:35:26.600 So Elon Musk,

00:35:28.040 Elon Musk here

00:35:29.460 is,

00:35:30.920 first of all,

00:35:31.500 I wanted to note

00:35:32.240 because I brought it up yesterday

00:35:33.380 that

00:35:34.140 X was down

00:35:36.280 for a bit

00:35:37.580 and

00:35:38.800 that's troubling

00:35:39.780 because X is now

00:35:41.020 the first line

00:35:42.320 social media platform

00:35:43.920 for free speech.

00:35:45.120 it is,

00:35:46.940 I know,

00:35:47.700 I know about Truth and Rumble,

00:35:49.140 I'm on those platforms too,

00:35:50.360 but X has broader reach.

00:35:52.780 That's why it was acquired

00:35:53.980 for $44 billion,

00:35:56.260 whatever it is.

00:35:57.580 And Elon said something

00:35:59.380 that I just have to note

00:36:00.760 that this is very interesting

00:36:02.440 and

00:36:03.260 I'm not a

00:36:05.280 technical

00:36:06.200 wow,

00:36:07.900 yeah,

00:36:08.560 clearly,

00:36:09.100 I'm not a technological expert

00:36:10.420 so I can't speak to

00:36:11.960 how verified

00:36:14.100 or verifiable

00:36:14.760 this is,

00:36:15.340 but this is cut five.

00:36:17.020 He said that the massive

00:36:18.040 attack

00:36:18.540 on X,

00:36:20.120 which shut it down

00:36:20.920 various times

00:36:21.600 throughout the day,

00:36:22.480 came from,

00:36:23.600 anyone want to guess?

00:36:24.780 Play five.

00:36:25.320 There was a cyber attack

00:36:26.900 on X today

00:36:28.180 which shut it down

00:36:29.380 and may have been

00:36:30.000 foreign sourced.

00:36:31.240 It's a big story.

00:36:32.320 You want to give us

00:36:32.820 a moment on that?

00:36:34.920 Well,

00:36:35.420 we don't,

00:36:36.020 we're not sure

00:36:36.440 exactly what happened

00:36:37.020 but there was

00:36:37.540 a massive cyber attack

00:36:39.100 to try to bring down

00:36:40.100 the X system

00:36:40.700 with IP addresses

00:36:43.300 originating in the

00:36:44.720 Ukraine area.

00:36:47.140 IP addresses

00:36:48.200 in Ukraine?

00:36:50.280 Now,

00:36:50.840 maybe they were

00:36:51.620 spoofed,

00:36:52.900 mirrored,

00:36:53.500 I know there's

00:36:54.240 ways to fit.

00:36:55.320 But I think

00:36:56.080 Elon's a pretty

00:36:57.040 sophisticated player

00:36:58.240 when it comes to

00:36:59.000 the internet

00:36:59.540 and technology

00:37:01.080 so if anyone's

00:37:02.600 going to be able

00:37:03.280 to get his team

00:37:05.100 to figure out

00:37:05.700 what really happened

00:37:06.560 here,

00:37:07.120 I think he's very

00:37:08.140 high on the list.

00:37:10.040 I don't know

00:37:11.080 who would be

00:37:11.700 much better

00:37:12.360 at this.

00:37:13.580 So if he,

00:37:14.760 maybe he'll come out

00:37:15.400 and say,

00:37:15.780 oh,

00:37:15.940 they mirrored it

00:37:17.340 and it was actually

00:37:17.860 from somewhere else.

00:37:18.420 I don't know.

00:37:19.020 He said it's not,

00:37:19.900 he even said it's not

00:37:21.440 definitive or all that

00:37:22.740 clear,

00:37:23.200 but it is interesting

00:37:24.380 that that might

00:37:25.820 have happened.

00:37:26.260 I'm just going to

00:37:26.900 note that that

00:37:27.740 is a situation

00:37:28.760 that we should

00:37:29.760 pay some attention

00:37:30.500 to.

00:37:31.600 Somebody in Ukraine 0.64

00:37:32.560 would be taking it

00:37:33.600 upon themselves.

00:37:34.360 It was sophisticated

00:37:35.100 too.

00:37:36.020 This is not something

00:37:36.680 that I think would be

00:37:37.580 easy for some

00:37:38.360 individual to just

00:37:39.260 pull off.

00:37:40.680 What's wrong with

00:37:41.720 people being able

00:37:42.540 to share information

00:37:43.480 freely about Ukraine

00:37:44.860 and what's going on

00:37:45.540 over there?

00:37:46.680 Why would anyone

00:37:47.280 want to stop that?

00:37:48.100 I think that is

00:37:48.800 very interesting.

00:37:50.420 You had Senator

00:37:52.580 Mark Kelly

00:37:53.220 who wanted to be,

00:37:56.360 I think,

00:37:56.580 Vice President Mark

00:37:57.500 Kelly,

00:37:57.900 but probably made

00:37:59.020 a smart decision

00:37:59.740 not tying himself

00:38:00.720 to the Kamala

00:38:03.100 ticket,

00:38:04.640 to be fair.

00:38:06.380 This is cut

00:38:06.900 nine.

00:38:08.200 Elon Musk

00:38:09.400 called him,

00:38:11.260 said that it's,

00:38:11.980 Mark Kelly went

00:38:12.780 to Ukraine

00:38:13.360 on his own

00:38:14.300 to do one of

00:38:14.760 these Ukraine

00:38:15.220 tours.

00:38:15.980 Elon didn't like it.

00:38:16.820 I think he said

00:38:17.620 that that's

00:38:18.120 a betrayal

00:38:19.360 or he's betrayed

00:38:20.640 his country, 0.99

00:38:21.200 he's a traitor 1.00

00:38:21.600 for doing this. 0.99

00:38:22.940 And here's what

00:38:23.560 Mark Kelly said

00:38:24.320 about Elon

00:38:24.860 in response.

00:38:25.740 Play nine.

00:38:26.260 What do you think

00:38:26.520 of the Elon Musk

00:38:27.500 comments calling you

00:38:28.520 about me?

00:38:30.340 Obviously,

00:38:30.980 he's not a serious

00:38:31.520 guy,

00:38:31.940 he's a 12-year-old.

00:38:33.900 So I don't take

00:38:34.680 him seriously.

00:38:36.240 I served

00:38:37.120 our country

00:38:39.260 in the Navy

00:38:39.620 for 25 years.

00:38:40.540 When I was 22

00:38:41.140 years old,

00:38:41.620 I swore an oath

00:38:42.500 to defend the

00:38:43.480 Constitution.

00:38:44.880 I've lived that

00:38:45.540 oath my entire

00:38:46.300 life.

00:38:47.700 I'm not sure

00:38:49.200 if Elon has

00:38:50.180 sworn an oath

00:38:51.320 to anything.

00:38:52.320 If I was to guess,

00:38:53.280 it's probably

00:38:53.720 just billionaires

00:38:54.660 like themselves.

00:38:56.720 Wow,

00:38:57.400 really?

00:38:57.800 We're going to

00:38:58.100 do that,

00:38:58.940 huh?

00:38:59.760 If you start

00:39:00.900 off saying

00:39:01.880 you don't take

00:39:03.400 Elon Musk

00:39:04.220 seriously,

00:39:06.080 you shouldn't

00:39:06.940 be taken

00:39:07.460 seriously.

00:39:08.980 What could be 1.00

00:39:10.300 a dumber 0.99

00:39:10.800 thing to say 0.99

00:39:11.820 than the

00:39:13.040 richest guy

00:39:13.700 in the world

00:39:14.440 who's creating

00:39:15.340 more,

00:39:16.060 I thought

00:39:17.240 Elon was

00:39:17.740 amazing.

00:39:18.200 I read

00:39:18.440 Elon's biography

00:39:19.140 before he was

00:39:20.420 red-pilled on

00:39:20.880 the Trump

00:39:21.220 train.

00:39:21.520 The guy's

00:39:21.920 just done

00:39:22.360 incredible

00:39:22.760 stuff.

00:39:23.520 Incredible

00:39:23.980 stuff.

00:39:25.080 That's changing

00:39:26.040 the future

00:39:26.680 and providing

00:39:28.120 a lot of

00:39:28.700 value to

00:39:29.280 humanity

00:39:29.800 in the

00:39:30.300 process.

00:39:32.280 He's not

00:39:33.000 a serious

00:39:33.760 person.

00:39:34.640 If Elon

00:39:35.360 Musk is not 0.99

00:39:36.060 a serious

00:39:36.400 person,

00:39:36.820 who is?

00:39:38.080 Who is?

00:39:38.620 You have

00:39:39.540 to wonder

00:39:40.600 about this

00:39:41.580 assessment

00:39:42.220 of him.

00:39:42.840 The work

00:39:43.200 that Doge 0.99

00:39:43.820 is doing

00:39:44.400 is certainly

00:39:45.040 serious and

00:39:45.800 important.

00:39:47.860 Here he is,

00:39:48.800 Elon,

00:39:49.440 speaking about

00:39:50.160 that.

00:39:50.400 This is cut

00:39:50.880 seven.

00:39:51.340 He just

00:39:51.540 wants everybody

00:39:51.980 to know

00:39:52.560 how essential

00:39:54.300 Doge is so

00:39:55.440 essential to him.

00:39:56.160 Here's a guy,

00:39:56.920 let me just take a

00:39:57.600 step back before 0.79

00:39:58.140 we play that

00:39:58.600 cut.

00:39:59.900 Elon is,

00:40:01.180 as part of his

00:40:01.880 mission,

00:40:02.420 specifically with

00:40:03.060 SpaceX,

00:40:04.160 he wants us

00:40:05.100 to get to

00:40:05.480 Mars because

00:40:05.960 he wants

00:40:06.500 humanity to

00:40:07.140 be interplanetary

00:40:09.220 in case

00:40:10.020 something terrible

00:40:10.800 happens here.

00:40:12.780 Asteroid hit,

00:40:14.100 nuclear war,

00:40:15.200 whatever,

00:40:15.800 right?

00:40:16.020 I think he

00:40:16.460 actually is a

00:40:17.100 little worried

00:40:17.420 about climate

00:40:17.780 change.

00:40:18.240 I hope he's

00:40:18.640 moderated that

00:40:19.340 because I'm

00:40:19.800 not saying

00:40:20.080 Elon's right

00:40:20.500 about everything,

00:40:21.780 but he wants

00:40:23.220 us to be

00:40:23.480 interplanetary.

00:40:24.220 So he thinks

00:40:24.700 the survival

00:40:25.360 of the human

00:40:26.380 species over

00:40:28.320 the long run

00:40:29.280 requires us to

00:40:30.340 be a

00:40:30.560 multi-planetary,

00:40:31.300 I'm sorry,

00:40:31.640 I said inter,

00:40:32.080 I meant

00:40:32.480 multi-planetary,

00:40:33.440 multi-planetary

00:40:35.720 species.

00:40:36.860 Now,

00:40:37.860 he is willing

00:40:38.760 for free

00:40:40.340 to take time

00:40:41.700 away from

00:40:42.480 that mission

00:40:43.060 to help

00:40:43.580 Donald Trump

00:40:44.260 to try

00:40:45.280 to fix

00:40:46.020 the government

00:40:46.780 in this

00:40:47.420 country.

00:40:48.620 I think

00:40:49.520 that goes

00:40:50.280 to how

00:40:51.700 important he

00:40:52.240 thinks it

00:40:52.580 is.

00:40:53.120 I also

00:40:53.540 think anybody

00:40:54.440 who tells

00:40:54.980 you that

00:40:55.260 Elon's only

00:40:55.860 in this

00:40:56.200 for his

00:40:56.500 billionaire

00:40:56.760 friends

00:40:57.160 is a 1.00

00:40:57.600 moron. 1.00

00:40:59.000 That's 1.00

00:40:59.340 just,

00:40:59.840 that's

00:41:00.080 absurd.

00:41:00.560 He's the 0.98

00:41:00.860 richest guy

00:41:01.400 in the

00:41:01.600 planet.

00:41:02.080 Money,

00:41:02.600 he's got

00:41:03.920 more money

00:41:04.220 than any

00:41:04.580 other human

00:41:04.960 being alive

00:41:05.620 in the

00:41:06.180 world.

00:41:06.560 There's

00:41:06.780 7 billion

00:41:07.460 people in

00:41:07.940 the world.

00:41:08.220 He's the

00:41:08.500 richest one.

00:41:10.100 And you

00:41:10.660 think that

00:41:11.100 this is all

00:41:11.540 a game

00:41:11.940 because he

00:41:12.420 wants more

00:41:13.320 money?

00:41:14.240 Once you're

00:41:14.920 worth a

00:41:15.280 billion dollars,

00:41:16.240 how much

00:41:16.980 value does

00:41:18.320 money even

00:41:18.740 have additional

00:41:19.520 money?

00:41:20.540 It's a very

00:41:21.480 steep decline.

00:41:22.320 You know,

00:41:23.900 your first

00:41:24.360 hundred

00:41:24.560 thousand

00:41:24.920 dollars in

00:41:25.360 the bank,

00:41:25.860 I've been

00:41:27.080 there building

00:41:27.640 it up,

00:41:27.980 makes a big

00:41:28.440 difference.

00:41:28.820 That first

00:41:29.180 hundred

00:41:29.380 grand,

00:41:29.700 first ten

00:41:30.240 grand if

00:41:30.600 you don't

00:41:30.800 have it,

00:41:31.800 man,

00:41:32.620 you get

00:41:32.980 that,

00:41:33.360 I got a

00:41:33.780 couple of

00:41:35.040 months or

00:41:35.420 six months

00:41:35.960 or whatever

00:41:36.280 it is of

00:41:36.760 security in

00:41:37.540 the bank.

00:41:38.520 If I were

00:41:39.080 to lose my

00:41:39.460 job, that

00:41:39.800 really helps,

00:41:40.280 right?

00:41:40.500 When you're

00:41:40.900 worth $300

00:41:41.580 billion,

00:41:42.460 being worth

00:41:43.100 $350

00:41:43.820 billion doesn't

00:41:45.500 get you out

00:41:46.300 of bed in

00:41:46.820 the morning,

00:41:47.300 okay?

00:41:47.860 Nobody cares.

00:41:48.960 So these

00:41:50.060 attacks about

00:41:50.780 that are

00:41:51.420 absurd.

00:41:53.440 And anyway, 0.88

00:41:54.120 here's what he

00:41:54.680 says about

00:41:55.200 Doge and how

00:41:55.840 important it is.

00:41:56.360 This is cut

00:41:56.740 seven.

00:41:57.180 What motivates

00:41:57.980 you to do

00:41:58.600 this?

00:41:59.380 Was the

00:41:59.840 offer good?

00:42:00.700 It's tough

00:42:01.280 sledding.

00:42:02.340 Yeah, it

00:42:03.340 is tough

00:42:03.620 sledding.

00:42:05.340 But I think

00:42:05.940 we're doing

00:42:06.140 the right

00:42:06.340 thing here.

00:42:07.600 There have

00:42:08.040 been many

00:42:08.380 audits that

00:42:08.820 have pointed

00:42:09.160 out that

00:42:10.300 there's a

00:42:10.780 tremendous

00:42:11.020 amount of

00:42:11.300 waste

00:42:11.460 important in

00:42:11.940 the government.

00:42:12.640 In fact,

00:42:13.140 there was a

00:42:13.580 report issued

00:42:14.560 by the GAO,

00:42:16.380 the Government

00:42:16.600 Accountability

00:42:16.980 Office,

00:42:17.820 last year.

00:42:18.720 So during

00:42:19.260 the Biden

00:42:20.060 administration,

00:42:21.100 which estimated

00:42:21.860 the federal

00:42:22.800 government fraud

00:42:23.360 to be half

00:42:25.800 a trillion

00:42:26.120 dollars.

00:42:27.360 So just

00:42:28.140 because that's

00:42:28.780 not a Trump

00:42:29.480 administration

00:42:29.920 thing,

00:42:30.160 that's a

00:42:30.360 Biden

00:42:30.540 administration

00:42:30.880 thing.

00:42:31.700 So what

00:42:32.940 we're trying

00:42:33.200 to do is

00:42:33.980 get that

00:42:34.860 number down

00:42:35.480 to a much

00:42:35.960 smaller figure.

00:42:39.040 Half a

00:42:39.760 trillion dollars

00:42:40.520 of fraud?

00:42:41.600 A Biden

00:42:42.480 administration

00:42:43.220 figure based

00:42:44.680 on government

00:42:45.280 audits and

00:42:45.860 estimates?

00:42:46.760 Of $500

00:42:47.820 billion?

00:42:48.720 Why would

00:42:50.860 any person

00:42:52.260 not want

00:42:54.040 him to

00:42:55.000 end that?

00:42:56.960 Well,

00:42:57.640 now you

00:42:58.100 get into

00:42:58.680 the ugly

00:43:00.020 truth about

00:43:00.600 the Democrat

00:43:01.000 Party,

00:43:01.520 which is

00:43:01.860 that a

00:43:02.280 lot of

00:43:02.560 stuff that

00:43:03.060 does not

00:43:03.380 have support

00:43:04.640 on its own

00:43:05.220 is funded

00:43:05.720 by the

00:43:06.140 government.

00:43:06.460 A lot of

00:43:07.000 ideologically

00:43:07.840 toxic left-wing

00:43:09.260 stuff relies

00:43:10.500 on government

00:43:11.100 funding.

00:43:11.680 A lot of

00:43:12.880 uniparty

00:43:14.500 activity and

00:43:15.680 worry and

00:43:16.240 charge,

00:43:16.820 even when we

00:43:17.260 lose elections

00:43:18.080 relies on

00:43:19.220 the massive

00:43:19.940 federal

00:43:20.340 bureaucracy,

00:43:21.620 relies on

00:43:22.240 the bureaucracy's

00:43:23.000 ability to

00:43:23.560 give a lot

00:43:24.500 of money to

00:43:24.920 people that

00:43:25.360 nobody even

00:43:26.000 knows about.

00:43:27.860 We need

00:43:29.460 this transparency

00:43:30.600 and everyone

00:43:31.800 should want

00:43:32.980 it.

00:43:33.800 And that

00:43:34.420 Democrats

00:43:34.920 don't and

00:43:35.900 that they

00:43:36.240 hate Elon.

00:43:36.960 You got 1.00

00:43:37.260 lunatic 1.00

00:43:37.720 Democrats who

00:43:38.420 are lighting

00:43:40.280 Teslas on

00:43:41.060 fire now

00:43:41.960 as some

00:43:42.580 kind of

00:43:42.920 anti-Elon

00:43:43.460 protest.

00:43:44.320 You're not

00:43:44.560 going to

00:43:44.800 bankrupt

00:43:45.640 Elon by

00:43:47.000 throwing a

00:43:47.660 Molotov

00:43:48.060 cocktail in

00:43:49.080 a cyber

00:43:49.540 truck in

00:43:50.260 Oregon or

00:43:51.060 whatever.

00:43:51.500 You're just

00:43:51.840 being an 1.00

00:43:52.240 idiot, 1.00

00:43:52.640 right? 1.00

00:43:52.860 Which is

00:43:53.480 not a

00:43:53.880 surprise.

00:43:55.400 But why

00:43:56.400 do they

00:43:56.680 hate him

00:43:57.080 so much?

00:43:58.460 Because he's

00:43:59.880 a threat to

00:44:00.700 the ideological

00:44:01.480 system of

00:44:02.580 the left.

00:44:03.160 Because the

00:44:03.580 ideological

00:44:04.080 system of

00:44:05.320 the left,

00:44:05.820 the apparatus,

00:44:06.840 as I have

00:44:07.500 called it for

00:44:07.980 a long time,

00:44:09.540 needs the

00:44:10.380 fraud and

00:44:11.260 needs to

00:44:12.340 avoid and

00:44:13.500 evade

00:44:14.000 accountability

00:44:14.640 of the

00:44:15.140 American

00:44:15.460 people.

00:44:16.320 That's why

00:44:16.820 they get so

00:44:17.440 upset about

00:44:18.000 this.

00:44:19.020 That's why

00:44:19.520 there's such

00:44:19.960 rage about

00:44:21.480 Elon specifically.

00:44:23.160 There is no

00:44:24.040 good faith

00:44:25.140 reason to

00:44:26.220 be angry

00:44:27.040 about what

00:44:27.960 Elon is

00:44:28.740 trying to

00:44:29.400 accomplish.

00:44:30.500 And all

00:44:31.020 Democrats do 0.57

00:44:31.860 is complain

00:44:32.340 about it.

00:44:32.900 All they do

00:44:33.560 is try to

00:44:34.020 stand in his

00:44:34.580 way.

00:44:35.300 It tells

00:44:35.700 you everything

00:44:36.740 you need to

00:44:37.740 know.

00:44:38.700 Tomorrow,

00:44:39.360 join me

00:44:39.720 online for

00:44:40.360 a special

00:44:41.380 videotaped

00:44:42.080 interview.

00:44:42.600 It starts

00:44:43.040 at 11 a.m.

00:44:44.400 Eastern,

00:44:44.720 just an hour

00:44:45.160 before the

00:44:45.600 show.

00:44:46.360 It's a

00:44:46.660 conversation

00:44:47.180 with my

00:44:48.080 dad.

00:44:48.800 You won't

00:44:49.120 want to

00:44:49.340 miss.

00:44:49.920 I grew up

00:44:50.320 in New

00:44:50.480 York City,

00:44:50.940 as you

00:44:51.040 know,

00:44:51.400 in a

00:44:51.940 stockbroker

00:44:52.900 family.

00:44:53.660 My dad

00:44:53.960 was a

00:44:54.200 stockbroker

00:44:54.780 and made

00:44:55.420 his name

00:44:56.160 by making

00:44:57.400 incredible

00:44:58.120 calls in

00:44:58.980 advance about

00:44:59.680 where the

00:45:00.040 market's

00:45:00.400 going.

00:45:01.060 Most

00:45:01.280 notably,

00:45:01.840 he became

00:45:02.260 famous back

00:45:02.980 in 87

00:45:03.660 when he

00:45:04.280 called the

00:45:04.840 crash in

00:45:06.040 advance on

00:45:06.940 TV.

00:45:07.480 He nailed

00:45:07.920 it.

00:45:08.560 He also

00:45:08.940 called the

00:45:09.280 crash in

00:45:09.600 2009.

00:45:10.280 for his

00:45:10.800 private

00:45:11.060 clients.

00:45:11.680 It's an

00:45:12.020 incredible

00:45:12.560 track record.

00:45:13.840 The predictions

00:45:14.260 are too

00:45:14.620 numerous to

00:45:15.100 get into

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00:46:23.740 Clay and Buck.

00:46:24.460 I was mentioning

00:46:25.780 before this story

00:46:27.260 about

00:46:27.900 Mahmoud

00:46:29.420 Khalil.

00:46:31.980 This is getting

00:46:32.840 a lot of attention

00:46:33.880 right now,

00:46:34.600 New York Times

00:46:35.200 and others all

00:46:36.160 up in arms

00:46:38.540 about this.

00:46:39.280 So let's

00:46:39.980 look at what

00:46:41.000 this story is.

00:46:41.680 You will remember,

00:46:43.620 and we talked

00:46:44.040 about it here

00:46:44.420 on the show,

00:46:45.740 there were

00:46:46.500 some just

00:46:48.060 outrageous

00:46:49.320 anti-Semitic

00:46:51.640 protests,

00:46:53.740 and a protest

00:46:54.680 doesn't really

00:46:55.640 cover it,

00:46:56.160 because some

00:46:56.500 of it was

00:46:57.260 threats,

00:46:59.000 trespassing,

00:46:59.980 destruction

00:47:00.400 of property.

00:47:01.780 There were

00:47:02.340 crimes that

00:47:02.900 were committed.

00:47:04.340 Now,

00:47:04.820 I'm not saying

00:47:05.600 these are all

00:47:06.520 serious felonies,

00:47:07.780 but there were

00:47:09.140 crimes that

00:47:09.720 were committed

00:47:10.040 on campus,

00:47:10.640 and Trump

00:47:12.300 has said that

00:47:13.480 they can either

00:47:14.120 clean up their

00:47:14.760 act or they're

00:47:15.240 going to lose,

00:47:15.840 I think they're

00:47:16.520 set to lose

00:47:17.400 hundreds of

00:47:17.780 millions of

00:47:18.100 dollars at

00:47:18.500 Columbia in

00:47:19.160 federal grants.

00:47:21.060 Why are private

00:47:21.680 institutions like

00:47:22.340 Columbia getting

00:47:22.820 hundreds of

00:47:23.240 millions of

00:47:23.540 dollars of

00:47:23.840 taxpayer money?

00:47:24.520 very good

00:47:25.680 question,

00:47:26.300 something to

00:47:26.700 be looked

00:47:27.000 at.

00:47:27.800 We're going

00:47:28.080 to look

00:47:28.280 at that.

00:47:29.280 But this

00:47:31.320 case is

00:47:32.040 interesting to

00:47:32.760 me.

00:47:33.380 There's a lot

00:47:33.940 of back and

00:47:34.280 forth.

00:47:34.460 The Speaker

00:47:34.800 of the House,

00:47:35.500 just so you

00:47:35.780 know,

00:47:35.900 it's already

00:47:36.400 gone up to

00:47:37.840 that level.

00:47:38.660 Speaker of the

00:47:39.000 House Johnson

00:47:39.540 took time from

00:47:41.400 the ongoing

00:47:42.800 wrangling of

00:47:44.220 members of

00:47:44.640 Congress for

00:47:46.260 the continuing

00:47:46.740 resolution to

00:47:47.760 address this,

00:47:49.580 and he said

00:47:51.300 that this is

00:47:52.300 cut 18.

00:47:53.420 Here's Speaker

00:47:53.840 Mike Johnson

00:47:54.480 play it.

00:47:55.080 If you're on a

00:47:55.760 student visa,

00:47:56.780 I'm going to

00:47:57.040 say this clearly,

00:47:57.720 if you're on a

00:47:58.320 student visa and

00:47:59.060 you're in America

00:47:59.660 and you're an

00:48:00.480 aspiring young 1.00

00:48:01.140 terrorist who

00:48:01.680 wants to prey 0.97

00:48:02.160 upon your 0.81

00:48:02.620 Jewish classmates,

00:48:03.740 you're going

00:48:04.220 home.

00:48:04.900 We're going to

00:48:05.420 arrest your 0.73

00:48:06.060 tail and we're 0.94

00:48:08.380 going to send

00:48:08.820 you home where

00:48:09.300 you belong.

00:48:10.120 And this is

00:48:10.740 just getting

00:48:11.140 started.

00:48:11.720 So, look,

00:48:12.740 I appreciate

00:48:14.640 free speech.

00:48:15.700 I used to

00:48:16.200 defend it in

00:48:16.780 courts, but

00:48:17.320 this is far

00:48:18.220 beyond the

00:48:18.720 pale of that.

00:48:19.280 When you are

00:48:19.620 threatening your

00:48:20.200 classmates and

00:48:20.960 spewing anti-Semitism

00:48:22.280 and all this

00:48:22.760 hatred, it's

00:48:24.000 enough.

00:48:24.540 And I think the

00:48:25.040 American people

00:48:25.460 understand that.

00:48:26.200 They're supporting

00:48:26.680 it, and I'm

00:48:27.100 glad we have a

00:48:27.640 president who's

00:48:28.280 strong enough to

00:48:29.400 lay down the

00:48:29.840 law.

00:48:31.360 So, I've got a

00:48:32.500 lot of thoughts

00:48:33.320 about this, and

00:48:34.720 I do want to

00:48:36.200 hear from some

00:48:37.280 of you, although

00:48:37.620 we're going to

00:48:38.040 be coming to the

00:48:38.560 close of the show

00:48:39.080 here pretty soon,

00:48:39.820 so maybe get

00:48:40.860 your talkbacks

00:48:41.520 ready and your

00:48:41.900 emails ready because

00:48:42.620 they won't have

00:48:42.980 that much time

00:48:43.480 for calls.

00:48:44.180 Here's what I see

00:48:45.120 on this.

00:48:45.360 This guy was part

00:48:47.300 of these Columbia

00:48:47.900 protests, Mahmoud

00:48:49.400 Khalil, we'll just

00:48:50.240 call him Khalil

00:48:50.800 from here on

00:48:51.840 out.

00:48:53.100 In Arabic class, my

00:48:54.120 Arabic name was

00:48:54.680 Khaled, for those 0.99

00:48:55.500 who want to know,

00:48:56.620 back in the day.

00:48:57.380 It's been a while.

00:48:58.360 I could still

00:48:58.800 write it, I guess,

00:48:59.460 if I had to.

00:49:02.020 So, yeah.

00:49:03.520 Anyway, so this

00:49:05.780 guy, Khalil, he

00:49:07.060 was arrested at

00:49:08.060 his home by ICE

00:49:08.780 agents and is

00:49:10.280 facing deportation.

00:49:12.200 He's a big

00:49:12.660 pro-Palestinian

00:49:13.580 guy.

00:49:14.560 Now, this is

00:49:15.380 where it all

00:49:15.800 gets kind of,

00:49:17.260 this is where a

00:49:17.740 lot of the

00:49:18.040 fighting happens,

00:49:18.740 right?

00:49:18.900 Because they

00:49:19.160 say, well, you're

00:49:19.640 allowed to be

00:49:20.020 pro-Palestinian.

00:49:20.900 Okay, yeah, you're

00:49:21.520 allowed to be

00:49:21.800 pro-Palestinian.

00:49:23.460 Sure, I'm talking

00:49:24.300 about First

00:49:24.640 Amendment stuff,

00:49:25.780 but are you

00:49:27.920 pro-Palestinian?

00:49:28.580 You're pro-Hamas? 0.97

00:49:29.220 Hamas is a 1.00

00:49:29.680 terrorist entity. 0.97

00:49:30.860 If you are

00:49:31.900 selling t-shirts

00:49:32.980 to raise money

00:49:34.080 for Hamas, it's a

00:49:35.880 designated terrorist

00:49:36.540 entity.

00:49:36.720 And I'm not saying

00:49:37.220 he did this, I'm

00:49:37.820 just working through

00:49:38.860 some of the

00:49:40.560 intricacies here

00:49:43.220 of this case.

00:49:44.500 If you're selling

00:49:45.100 t-shirts or mugs,

00:49:47.200 if you're selling

00:49:48.140 a mug, I heart

00:49:49.060 Hamas, first of 1.00

00:49:50.240 all, you're a 1.00

00:49:50.740 lunatic. 1.00

00:49:51.320 Second of all,

00:49:52.580 and you're trying

00:49:53.240 to send that

00:49:53.640 money to Hamas,

00:49:54.260 that's material

00:49:54.720 support to a

00:49:55.300 terrorist organization.

00:49:56.140 I think you can

00:49:56.420 get 10 years

00:49:57.400 federal for that.

00:49:58.580 So that's clearly

00:49:59.240 a violation of

00:50:00.200 the law.

00:50:01.300 And that's for

00:50:02.020 anybody.

00:50:03.020 You're here as

00:50:04.680 an American,

00:50:05.400 green card hold,

00:50:05.980 it doesn't matter.

00:50:06.540 You can't do

00:50:07.180 that.

00:50:07.360 You're in U.S.

00:50:09.140 jurisdiction of

00:50:09.740 any kind and

00:50:10.340 you're doing

00:50:10.760 material support

00:50:11.500 for a terrorist

00:50:11.860 organization.

00:50:13.140 Now, can you

00:50:13.660 speak in favor

00:50:14.960 of a terrorist

00:50:15.660 organization under

00:50:16.680 the First Amendment?

00:50:17.300 Clearly, you

00:50:17.860 can.

00:50:18.940 So you can

00:50:20.180 say, you

00:50:21.460 know, you can

00:50:22.640 say that I

00:50:23.140 agreed with,

00:50:24.400 you know, the

00:50:25.760 plans of Abu

00:50:27.060 Bakr al-Baghdadi

00:50:28.120 to create a

00:50:28.840 caliphate or 0.76

00:50:29.340 something.

00:50:29.840 You know, you

00:50:30.320 can say that,

00:50:32.080 but you can't

00:50:32.660 take any steps

00:50:33.640 to advance or

00:50:34.580 assist or help

00:50:35.260 because, again, we

00:50:36.040 get back to

00:50:36.500 material support.

00:50:37.360 You can't

00:50:37.920 be a U.S.

00:50:41.700 spokesman for

00:50:42.840 that group.

00:50:43.480 Then you're

00:50:43.740 definitely going

00:50:44.220 to Gitmo or

00:50:44.960 something.

00:50:45.380 So there are

00:50:46.720 places where this

00:50:47.580 crosses over very

00:50:49.220 quickly.

00:50:50.480 Here is what we

00:50:51.600 know about this

00:50:52.120 guy, Khalil.

00:50:52.740 He was at

00:50:53.700 Columbia.

00:50:54.200 He was a

00:50:54.600 prominent face

00:50:57.100 of these, again,

00:50:58.740 they call them

00:50:59.080 protests.

00:50:59.680 It was really,

00:51:00.820 and there were

00:51:01.580 Jewish students

00:51:02.220 who were, you

00:51:03.540 know, hounded and

00:51:04.680 harassed on campus. 0.92

00:51:06.040 I hate all of

00:51:08.080 that.

00:51:08.900 Like, I, you

00:51:09.960 know how I feel

00:51:10.820 about Israel's

00:51:12.120 fight against

00:51:12.860 Hamas. 0.73

00:51:13.820 Could not be

00:51:14.680 more in favor of

00:51:15.840 Israel doing what 0.64

00:51:16.620 it needs to defend

00:51:17.200 itself.

00:51:17.560 You know how I

00:51:18.280 feel about

00:51:19.000 anti-Semitism,

00:51:19.860 and it has no

00:51:22.020 place anywhere.

00:51:24.720 Here's the only

00:51:25.460 place where I have

00:51:26.320 a little bit of a

00:51:27.020 question about this.

00:51:28.280 on the one

00:51:29.700 hand, I feel

00:51:31.300 very strongly

00:51:32.460 that if you're

00:51:34.020 a guest here,

00:51:36.160 you've got to be

00:51:36.720 on, meaning if

00:51:37.520 you're not, you

00:51:38.200 know, if you're

00:51:38.480 somebody who's

00:51:39.100 visited, and this

00:51:39.900 even includes

00:51:40.460 people who have a

00:51:41.100 green card, you're

00:51:41.600 not yet a

00:51:42.200 citizen.

00:51:43.200 If you break the

00:51:44.060 law, you've got

00:51:44.620 to go.

00:51:45.700 You've got to go.

00:51:47.220 Right?

00:51:47.700 That I am, and

00:51:48.860 that has not been

00:51:49.580 the case as we've

00:51:50.220 seen with a lot of,

00:51:50.980 there's so much of a

00:51:52.280 lack of enforcement on

00:51:53.160 this, but if you

00:51:54.040 break the law, you've

00:51:54.700 got to go.

00:51:55.080 And it doesn't

00:51:57.580 have to be like a

00:51:58.380 rape or a murder,

00:51:59.300 it's just if you

00:51:59.920 break the law, and

00:52:01.580 you are charged with

00:52:03.160 a crime, you've got

00:52:04.200 to go.

00:52:06.020 The issue that I

00:52:07.320 see here is this

00:52:12.600 guy, I don't

00:52:13.340 believe, has been

00:52:14.000 charged with any

00:52:14.660 crime.

00:52:16.120 I don't believe he's

00:52:16.960 been charged with

00:52:17.380 any crime.

00:52:18.860 His behavior, from

00:52:20.420 what I can gather

00:52:22.220 from everything, is

00:52:23.220 abhorrent.

00:52:24.020 I disagree with

00:52:25.100 him on everything.

00:52:25.820 I think he's a 1.00

00:52:26.280 scumbag. 1.00

00:52:27.380 He's a guest in 1.00

00:52:28.460 this country, yes, so

00:52:29.440 he has that elevated

00:52:30.760 expectation of, you

00:52:33.860 know, you don't get

00:52:34.620 to just do whatever.

00:52:35.380 Like, you don't get,

00:52:36.400 and now in the

00:52:38.100 actual laws that

00:52:40.160 pertain to this with

00:52:41.260 when it comes to

00:52:42.140 immigration, there

00:52:43.600 are, you know,

00:52:45.380 there are things that

00:52:46.900 specifically cite a

00:52:49.040 desire to overthrow

00:52:50.840 the United States by

00:52:52.480 force.

00:52:52.880 So if you're even, so

00:52:54.140 there are ideological

00:52:55.620 places where, you

00:52:58.520 know, the first

00:52:59.220 thing, if you come to

00:53:00.020 this country and

00:53:00.800 you're, let's say

00:53:01.840 you're from

00:53:02.140 communist China and

00:53:03.620 you are visiting on a

00:53:04.920 student visa and you

00:53:05.940 start saying out in

00:53:06.840 public, I think that

00:53:08.480 there should be a

00:53:09.260 violent revolution to

00:53:10.180 overthrow the United

00:53:10.840 States government.

00:53:11.660 I'm at, we can, we 1.00

00:53:13.020 can kick your butt 1.00

00:53:13.880 out of here. 1.00

00:53:14.520 That isn't the law.

00:53:15.320 There's no, no doubt

00:53:17.400 about that.

00:53:18.620 Right?

00:53:19.060 That is, that is

00:53:19.720 statute.

00:53:20.220 I actually was

00:53:20.820 reading the statute

00:53:21.480 before I came on this

00:53:22.580 morning to make sure

00:53:23.440 a lot of immigration

00:53:25.980 statutes are ignored, as

00:53:28.620 we know, and that

00:53:29.280 should not be the case

00:53:30.260 because they are

00:53:31.000 existing law, just like

00:53:31.980 all the other laws

00:53:32.640 with this guy, where I

00:53:35.080 think it gets

00:53:35.720 interesting is, has he,

00:53:38.120 if he's going to be

00:53:39.440 sent home as a, as

00:53:42.220 somebody who's here on a

00:53:43.160 student visa, as a green

00:53:44.280 card holder, I've heard

00:53:45.380 both, by the way, guys,

00:53:46.320 can we check on that?

00:53:47.040 Is he a green card

00:53:47.840 holder, or is he here

00:53:48.860 on a student visa, or

00:53:49.880 is it, is it one than

00:53:51.400 the other?

00:53:51.820 Is it both?

00:53:52.820 Got to check his

00:53:53.420 status.

00:53:54.460 You should be on your

00:53:55.400 best behavior here.

00:53:56.280 You do not have the

00:53:56.960 full rights of a citizen

00:53:57.820 here.

00:53:58.300 Obviously, you can't

00:53:59.240 vote.

00:53:59.440 There's a whole bunch

00:53:59.960 of things.

00:54:00.320 If you're a guest

00:54:01.040 here, you, you should

00:54:02.520 just be thankful and

00:54:03.820 total obedience to the

00:54:05.000 law.

00:54:05.680 If he broke the law, and

00:54:07.740 that's why we're sending

00:54:08.700 him home, well, there

00:54:12.080 should, there should

00:54:13.000 at least be a charge

00:54:14.400 filed, right?

00:54:15.260 That somebody should

00:54:15.740 charge him with, and

00:54:18.080 there's a bunch that

00:54:18.760 I think would apply

00:54:19.520 here.

00:54:20.960 Harassment, you know,

00:54:21.720 intimidation, menacing,

00:54:23.100 I believe, is a

00:54:23.820 statute in the penal

00:54:24.700 code in New York

00:54:25.460 City, if memory

00:54:27.680 serves, from when I

00:54:28.280 was in the NYPD,

00:54:29.220 briefly in the NYPD,

00:54:31.160 and I was kind of

00:54:32.760 like a hired nerd for

00:54:33.760 the NYPD.

00:54:34.500 I wasn't doing the

00:54:35.100 real cop stuff, but I

00:54:37.420 think menacing would

00:54:38.320 be in there, you

00:54:39.880 know, assault and

00:54:40.440 battery, destruction

00:54:41.400 of property, any of

00:54:42.320 that, but to say that

00:54:43.960 he's done it, and

00:54:45.320 therefore we're

00:54:45.820 kicking him out

00:54:46.640 without him being

00:54:48.840 charged with any of

00:54:49.980 that, that, I know 1.00

00:54:51.580 he's a scumbag, I 1.00

00:54:52.640 don't like this guy, 1.00

00:54:53.580 or what he stands

00:54:54.240 for either, but we

00:54:56.440 have, there is due,

00:54:57.660 like, there is due

00:54:58.280 process, we still do

00:54:59.280 need due process, so

00:55:01.340 has he gotten that

00:55:02.340 due process yet?

00:55:04.220 That, that is a

00:55:05.440 question that I have

00:55:08.400 about this.

00:55:09.460 A judge has already

00:55:10.560 blocked, now it's, I'm

00:55:11.920 sure, a left-wing

00:55:12.480 judge, his removal

00:55:15.120 from the U.S.

00:55:16.500 pending an action

00:55:17.680 on habeas, as in

00:55:19.580 why is this guy in

00:55:20.880 custody?

00:55:22.740 This is going to get

00:55:23.760 interesting, because if

00:55:25.040 he's in custody for

00:55:26.940 not, you know, for

00:55:28.820 saying bad things,

00:55:31.380 okay, well, that's not

00:55:34.040 really a crime.

00:55:35.800 If he's in custody for

00:55:37.360 breaking laws, let's

00:55:38.680 bring that charge, and

00:55:39.800 then let's go, and

00:55:40.820 let's find him guilty,

00:55:41.660 and then let's send 1.00

00:55:42.400 his ass home. 1.00

00:55:43.740 Very straightforward. 1.00

00:55:44.760 Again, I'm all for

00:55:46.260 you have to behave,

00:55:48.800 and you have to obey

00:55:50.760 the law in this

00:55:51.940 country, if, especially

00:55:53.660 if you're a visitor,

00:55:54.320 or else you go home,

00:55:55.320 no ifs, ands, or

00:55:56.140 buts, but if we're

00:55:58.700 saying that he was

00:56:00.440 trying to call for

00:56:01.400 the violent, I think

00:56:02.480 he wanted to call for,

00:56:03.580 and by the way, I'm

00:56:04.560 raising questions here.

00:56:05.640 I haven't been able to

00:56:06.180 look at everything this

00:56:06.980 guy's ever said, and

00:56:08.080 there's, I think he

00:56:09.340 said he wants to, the

00:56:10.180 downfall of Western

00:56:11.560 civilization, right?

00:56:13.040 And that's where we

00:56:13.860 get to, can you look

00:56:15.280 at the downfall of

00:56:16.360 Western civilization

00:56:17.300 as the equivalent

00:56:20.580 in statute of a

00:56:21.820 violent overthrow of

00:56:22.620 the United States

00:56:23.160 government?

00:56:25.120 You know, it's, it's

00:56:26.420 getting pretty close.

00:56:27.840 This is, this is where

00:56:29.100 the judgment starts to

00:56:30.260 come in.

00:56:31.600 Again, anybody who

00:56:32.600 wants the violent

00:56:33.160 overthrow of, or the

00:56:34.240 overthrow, rather, of

00:56:34.980 Western civilization, I'm

00:56:36.020 opposed to, with every

00:56:36.840 fiber of my being, it

00:56:37.860 would be a disaster, not

00:56:38.780 just for those of us

00:56:40.020 who live in Western

00:56:40.880 civilization, but for

00:56:41.900 the rest of the world,

00:56:42.540 because we kind of

00:56:43.620 prop up civilization for

00:56:44.880 everybody else, too,

00:56:45.640 just saying.

00:56:47.360 So I want to see what

00:56:48.600 exactly it was that, and

00:56:51.120 this is going to come

00:56:51.620 out in the habeas,

00:56:52.360 habeas corpus

00:56:53.420 petition, right?

00:56:54.140 This is what they're

00:56:54.860 fighting over.

00:56:55.420 Okay, well, why is this

00:56:56.200 guy in custody?

00:56:57.240 And I keep hearing all

00:56:58.180 of these different

00:56:59.160 things.

00:57:00.500 And now I'm just

00:57:01.400 going to, I'm going to

00:57:02.040 say this.

00:57:02.560 Is this applicable in

00:57:06.860 this case, specifically

00:57:08.560 applying to issues of

00:57:11.220 anti-Semitism and

00:57:12.420 anti-Jewish speech on

00:57:13.960 campus?

00:57:15.100 Is it going to be

00:57:15.980 applied to other speech

00:57:17.360 on campus that is

00:57:18.580 particularly problematic?

00:57:22.460 And who is going to

00:57:23.540 determine what that

00:57:24.340 problematic speech may

00:57:25.500 be?

00:57:25.740 I bring it up because

00:57:26.540 let's just fast forward,

00:57:28.020 forget about where we

00:57:28.740 are now.

00:57:29.800 Our team, the good

00:57:30.740 guys are in charge, and

00:57:31.880 I know it's like we

00:57:32.800 trust them, right, for

00:57:33.860 the most part.

00:57:35.480 You go to a, if I say

00:57:39.200 AOC administration, you

00:57:40.320 will all just start

00:57:40.860 laughing, so you won't

00:57:41.680 even follow the

00:57:42.220 analogy, but you go to

00:57:43.300 a Gavin Newsom, you're

00:57:46.560 probably still laughing,

00:57:47.340 a Gavin Newsom

00:57:48.000 administration, and

00:57:49.760 somebody on campus

00:57:50.640 wants to say, or is

00:57:53.040 saying things that are

00:57:53.960 highly, highly offensive

00:57:56.300 to Democrats.

00:58:00.320 Are they going to be

00:58:01.280 able to, and they're

00:58:02.340 visiting, right?

00:58:03.060 They're not an

00:58:03.560 American citizen, they

00:58:04.560 do not have full

00:58:05.040 citizenship rights.

00:58:06.640 Are Democrats going to

00:58:07.260 be able to say, you're

00:58:07.920 calling for the 1.00

00:58:08.520 extermination of trans 1.00

00:58:10.740 people? 0.99

00:58:12.100 You're calling for 0.93

00:58:12.960 violence against trans 0.96

00:58:14.680 people?

00:58:15.280 I know you're going to

00:58:16.160 tell me, oh no, come

00:58:17.280 on.

00:58:18.380 These people think that

00:58:19.200 a man can become a

00:58:19.940 woman.

00:58:20.200 You don't think

00:58:20.500 they're going to make

00:58:20.920 this argument at some

00:58:21.720 point if we start to

00:58:22.800 open this up?

00:58:23.480 Again, there has to be,

00:58:24.980 I just want to know what

00:58:26.320 the clear process is

00:58:27.880 here.

00:58:29.120 Mahmoud Khalil stands

00:58:30.760 for everything, stands

00:58:32.400 against everything that I

00:58:34.000 stand for on the issues

00:58:35.320 that concerns him, or on

00:58:37.640 the reasons, and his

00:58:38.620 anti-Semitism is vile, and

00:58:40.500 the guy shouldn't be in

00:58:41.400 this country.

00:58:42.560 But I just want, and this

00:58:43.620 is where the habeas

00:58:44.400 petition comes in, we

00:58:45.260 need clarity on what is

00:58:47.220 the reason that he's being

00:58:48.780 removed.

00:58:49.260 Because if the executive

00:58:51.320 branch can point to

00:58:52.420 someone and say, well,

00:58:53.240 you're a visitor here, and

00:58:54.660 I just don't like what

00:58:55.920 you're saying, even if in

00:58:58.120 this case it's fully

00:58:59.040 warranted and we totally

00:58:59.800 agree with it, there's a

00:59:01.340 precedent that they can

00:59:02.220 just tell people, oh no,

00:59:03.420 you're not allowed to come

00:59:04.080 here and say that.

00:59:05.340 You're not allowed to come

00:59:06.340 here as a refugee from,

00:59:10.180 say, as a white refugee

00:59:11.160 from South Africa, which is

00:59:12.540 another thing that Trump

00:59:13.260 has been talking about, and

00:59:14.980 talk about the state racism

00:59:17.880 in South Africa against

00:59:19.780 white South Africa.

00:59:20.840 No, no, no.

00:59:21.460 Not allowed.

00:59:22.060 That's creating racial 0.99

00:59:24.220 disharmony in this

00:59:25.140 country, and it's a, so

00:59:26.620 you have to, you have to

00:59:27.660 go home, again, in the

00:59:29.040 Gavin Newsom

00:59:29.760 administration.

00:59:30.300 You see what I'm

00:59:30.820 saying?

00:59:31.940 I want clarity on this.

00:59:33.180 I don't, I'm not opposed

00:59:34.540 to it, but I want some of

00:59:35.820 these answers, because we

00:59:37.880 need to be clear about what

00:59:39.140 the standard is, and the

00:59:40.380 standard can't just be a

00:59:42.440 one-off standard on this

00:59:43.580 issue, as awful as the

00:59:45.420 anti-Semitism stuff on

00:59:46.560 campus was, because if it

00:59:48.740 is just speech we really

00:59:50.820 don't like on campus, remember,

00:59:52.380 I wrote my college thesis

00:59:53.380 on speech codes on

00:59:54.380 campus, right?

00:59:54.980 So this is going back for

00:59:56.060 me a long time.

00:59:57.160 I was thinking about this

00:59:57.840 issue over 20 years ago, and

00:59:59.400 researching it, and looking

01:00:01.200 at all the different speech

01:00:02.020 codes of a whole range of

01:00:02.960 different schools, if it's

01:00:04.780 just going to be, you say

01:00:06.100 things that are really

01:00:07.800 heinous and bad, and then

01:00:10.060 they claim that somehow

01:00:11.260 that's inciting violence, and

01:00:13.540 then that's a violation of

01:00:15.600 your student visa, the other 0.72

01:00:19.600 side's going to be in power at

01:00:20.720 some point, and I can

01:00:21.520 assure you they will abuse

01:00:23.580 this, which is why the

01:00:24.360 process matters.

01:00:25.840 So I have a little bit of a

01:00:27.200 different take on this, I

01:00:28.060 think, than some other

01:00:28.860 people on the right right

01:00:29.960 now, in so much as I want

01:00:31.960 more, I just want, I want

01:00:34.220 more issues, more answers

01:00:35.700 rather, and more clarity on

01:00:37.880 this one.

01:00:39.100 But yes, if you break the law

01:00:41.100 and your visitor, gone.

01:00:42.440 If you violate statute, your

01:00:44.200 visitor, gone.

01:00:45.740 That is absolutely, but you

01:00:47.800 got to do one of those.

01:00:48.860 Show me the violation of the

01:00:50.060 statute, show me where the

01:00:51.480 law is broken, and show me

01:00:52.900 where the charge has been

01:00:54.320 leveled.

01:00:55.500 It can't just be someone

01:00:56.460 determines it because they

01:00:57.620 say so, right?

01:00:58.480 I would think, unless I guess

01:01:00.060 maybe an immigration judge

01:01:01.260 can just unilaterally decide

01:01:02.720 based on, this is where you

01:01:04.080 have to get very specific in

01:01:05.720 the immigration statute.

01:01:06.560 That may be the case.

01:01:07.880 Executive branch may have

01:01:09.140 full authority to tell this

01:01:10.080 guy that, you know, you go

01:01:11.680 packing, and I'm not opposed

01:01:13.720 to that at all, I'm for

01:01:14.880 that, I just want to know

01:01:16.200 what is he being sent packing 1.00

01:01:18.080 for, because saying stupid, 1.00

01:01:19.940 heinous things, I need more 1.00

01:01:23.160 specificity than that.

01:01:25.060 If it's overthrowing

01:01:25.880 Western civilization is

01:01:27.360 tantamount to overthrowing

01:01:28.320 the United States

01:01:28.820 government, well, let's have

01:01:29.700 this will come out in the

01:01:30.740 habeas petition, by the way,

01:01:31.920 so we will return to this

01:01:33.960 issue, but I wanted to be

01:01:36.040 intellectually honest with you

01:01:37.620 as I work through this one

01:01:39.020 and just see what's really

01:01:41.000 at issue, what's really

01:01:42.460 going on here, because I know

01:01:44.600 right now it's like, oh, our

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Verdict with Ted Cruz - March 06, 2025

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