Verdict with Ted Cruz - March 06, 2025


Bonus Episode: Daily Review with Clay Travis and Buck Sexton


Episode Stats

Length

1 hour and 3 minutes

Words per Minute

170.34645

Word Count

10,781

Sentence Count

698

Misogynist Sentences

8

Hate Speech Sentences

28


Summary


Transcript

00:00:00.000 This is an iHeart Podcast.
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00:00:04.640 Welcome, everybody, to the Tuesday edition of the Clay, Travis, and Buck Sexton Show.
00:00:11.200 Our man Clay on a much-deserved vacation and college tour with his oldest boy.
00:00:17.700 So he'll be back with us on Monday.
00:00:20.100 He's taking the week to do the family stuff and enjoy himself.
00:00:23.480 We hope him, Laura, and the kids are having a great time.
00:00:27.000 We have a lot of news to dive into today, and things are heating up.
00:00:33.340 I think you could say that the initial honeymoon period with the media,
00:00:40.040 not that they wanted to give us one, but they were so shocked
00:00:42.900 that they couldn't even figure out a way to oppose Trump effectively in public,
00:00:47.100 that is starting to fade as they scream,
00:00:50.020 recession, recession, and authoritarianism.
00:00:53.940 So we shall discuss where all this is coming from.
00:00:57.100 We've got Congress right now wrangling over the continuing resolution.
00:01:02.440 There's government shutdown talk.
00:01:05.320 Oh, boy, up on Capitol Hill, we will discuss this.
00:01:09.000 Trump announcing new tariffs on Canada.
00:01:12.780 So he's going to impose 50% tariffs on Canadian steel and aluminum.
00:01:17.300 We'll discuss this.
00:01:18.260 This is a retaliatory tariff.
00:01:20.340 There's a lot of back and forth over the arrest of Mahmoud Khalil,
00:01:27.400 an anti-American, pro-Hamas, pro-Palestinian activist on a student visa.
00:01:35.980 I think that's a discussion we should get into in a little bit.
00:01:39.080 You've also got the aftermath of Dylan Mulvaney on The View.
00:01:45.540 It turns out the ladies of The View are as disconnected from reality
00:01:52.840 and cognitively limited as we had always assumed here on the show
00:01:57.500 or we had always discussed.
00:01:59.240 And we shall get into all of that and more.
00:02:01.500 Also take a bunch of your calls, 800-282-2882.
00:02:05.140 And I'll just say this, my friends.
00:02:06.780 It is important to note that this was all what we should have expected.
00:02:14.880 When you try to change the system, when you take it upon yourself
00:02:20.180 to challenge the way things are done,
00:02:22.660 in the biggest, most expensive government in the history of the world,
00:02:26.720 which I think is fair to say,
00:02:28.120 no one else is spending the trillions that we have spent
00:02:30.720 or we have gotten used to spending.
00:02:32.800 No one else has ever gotten $36 trillion U.S. dollars or the equivalent.
00:02:38.440 I don't know, maybe we can go back to ancient Rome or something.
00:02:40.740 But nobody else has run this up the way that we have in the modern era.
00:02:44.980 We've got some real problems to fix.
00:02:47.700 The initial flurry of executive orders from Trump was fantastic.
00:02:51.680 It was time for us all to high-five, do backflips.
00:02:55.860 And like I said, if you remember, you were listening to us at the time,
00:03:00.340 I said, enjoy this.
00:03:01.840 Go out this weekend, crack a beer or a Chardonnay or whatever it is you like to,
00:03:07.760 you know, in my case, some stevia-sweetened water.
00:03:12.680 Go, go, enjoy yourself.
00:03:15.680 Enjoy the victory that Trump had over all the forces trying to stop him.
00:03:20.420 Enjoy the victory the Republicans had.
00:03:22.900 Because things are going to get messy.
00:03:24.720 And we're entering the messy phase.
00:03:29.320 Now, it's not going to be what they're telling you it is,
00:03:32.460 which is that somehow this is all going to fall apart
00:03:35.220 and the economy is so bad and it's all Trump's fault.
00:03:38.800 That is to be expected from an anti-Trump media
00:03:41.320 that has lied to you about absolutely everything.
00:03:45.220 I've seen that even with the Heritage Foundation,
00:03:48.840 I think it's the accountability project they have,
00:03:50.920 they've looked at the auto pen signatures of Biden
00:03:56.460 on a bunch of things that he officially signed
00:04:00.680 and some of them don't match up.
00:04:02.860 And this, under a normal president,
00:04:05.500 under a cognitively functioning president,
00:04:08.160 you might say, well, you know, people use auto pens.
00:04:11.380 Did Biden even know all the things he was signing?
00:04:13.420 And if he didn't know all the things he was signing,
00:04:16.420 it's not really law, is it?
00:04:18.740 If some advisor just effectively forged his signature, right?
00:04:22.920 It's one thing for a president to have an auto pen signature.
00:04:25.240 Yes, my hand is tired.
00:04:27.160 That has happened before.
00:04:28.520 We know this.
00:04:29.140 So I'm not discounting that reality.
00:04:32.020 But if a president isn't even aware
00:04:34.560 of what is being signed in his name,
00:04:36.900 is that a thing that we don't pay attention to?
00:04:40.720 Does that not have consequences?
00:04:42.040 I think it clearly should.
00:04:43.360 But I bring it up because we have entered a new era now
00:04:46.660 where we have a president who is very much engaged
00:04:49.920 and advisors who are on a mission.
00:04:52.840 This is not the business as usual presidency.
00:04:56.540 This is not even the Trump as we got to know him presidency,
00:05:00.980 as in Trump 1.0.
00:05:02.360 This is clearly Trump 2.0.
00:05:04.140 This is something elevated and beyond.
00:05:07.240 The first go-around, there was a lot of on-the-job learning.
00:05:10.600 There were personnel decisions and mistakes.
00:05:14.400 Let's just be honest about this.
00:05:15.920 Trump is honest about it.
00:05:17.520 He fired a bunch of people.
00:05:19.600 He has had people turn against him
00:05:21.640 who owe their careers to him,
00:05:23.480 now in the media but then in government.
00:05:25.820 So there was a learning curve.
00:05:27.540 And there was, I think, from the Trump team also
00:05:31.020 the surprise of having to deal with
00:05:33.600 not just the media going all out against him,
00:05:37.360 but we remember the Russia collusion hoax
00:05:40.100 and the media, Democrat, intelligence community complex,
00:05:45.200 the apparatus, all going at Trump with everything that they had
00:05:49.580 and it slowed things down.
00:05:51.080 This time around, they have thrown everything at him
00:05:54.640 and they have been shown incapable of stopping him
00:05:59.560 from getting to his second term.
00:06:01.400 A magnificent thing, an incredible comeback.
00:06:04.160 That's why I told you, enjoy it.
00:06:05.920 Don't just look at the fight ahead.
00:06:08.040 You know, when you win the big game,
00:06:09.480 before you go to the state championship,
00:06:11.280 you still go out and celebrate.
00:06:12.800 The election victory was huge.
00:06:15.000 Now we get to fixing the country.
00:06:16.840 And fixing the country isn't going to be something
00:06:20.120 that just happens overnight
00:06:22.040 or even in the first quarter or two of Trump's term.
00:06:26.780 Remember, he hasn't even been in office two months
00:06:28.940 and they're saying, oh, look at the price of eggs,
00:06:31.060 look at the stock market, look at noise.
00:06:33.880 This is noise.
00:06:36.000 And there's also an important perception management
00:06:42.500 that has to go on here
00:06:43.760 where if you're going to contract government
00:06:46.640 and if we have become, for GDP purposes,
00:06:50.140 reliant on government's expansion,
00:06:52.560 as in too much spending,
00:06:54.240 the government just creates the perception
00:06:57.680 of additional value.
00:06:59.120 It's just numbers on a screen
00:07:01.000 or it's paying bureaucrats who do nothing.
00:07:03.600 I mentioned yesterday, 25% of new jobs
00:07:06.280 under Biden, government jobs.
00:07:08.380 The government is putting out 25% of the new jobs
00:07:12.680 that are being created over the course
00:07:14.640 of an entire 2023, I think,
00:07:17.020 and 2024 is close to it, if not the same.
00:07:20.040 That's not making any of us better off.
00:07:22.800 That is just expanding the scope
00:07:24.880 and price tag of the government itself.
00:07:27.440 To deal with that, though,
00:07:29.640 it's a little bit like going on a diet,
00:07:32.020 something I know about,
00:07:33.480 because you're going to be hungry.
00:07:35.500 And if we have to be hungry here
00:07:37.380 when it comes to government spending,
00:07:39.220 a little bit.
00:07:39.900 This is the thing.
00:07:41.320 It's all about proportion.
00:07:43.420 It's all about balance.
00:07:44.380 Trump is trying to restore balance.
00:07:47.300 Elon, Doge, they're trying to restore sanity
00:07:49.940 in the way that the government spends,
00:07:52.140 in the way that the government
00:07:53.040 takes your money in your name
00:07:55.180 and puts it to use,
00:07:57.900 in many cases very bad use,
00:07:59.680 in some cases just effectively
00:08:01.000 lighting money on fire,
00:08:02.500 to stop that process from happening.
00:08:05.180 There's going to be fierce opposition,
00:08:07.660 which we have already seen, right?
00:08:10.440 Especially when you start to touch these NGOs.
00:08:13.620 I think it was Elon who said,
00:08:15.320 and it's so right,
00:08:16.280 how is it a non-government organization
00:08:18.040 if the government is entirely responsible
00:08:19.960 for funding it?
00:08:21.480 That's just a cutout.
00:08:22.920 That's what we would call it
00:08:23.780 in intelligence circles, right?
00:08:25.200 That's a carve-out.
00:08:26.600 It's a proxy.
00:08:28.160 So something was very wrong
00:08:30.660 with that whole situation,
00:08:31.900 and now many of us are far more aware of it
00:08:34.240 than we ever had been in the past.
00:08:36.980 So that's an important win.
00:08:39.000 And now we're looking at the beginning
00:08:40.840 of stopping the spending juggernaut
00:08:44.640 from just rampaging forward
00:08:47.620 toward $40 trillion of debt.
00:08:50.420 It's not going to be easy,
00:08:52.360 and it is not going to be without
00:08:53.940 a little bit of rumbling along the way.
00:08:59.140 There's going to be some moments
00:09:01.640 where things are going to look
00:09:03.700 a little bit tougher
00:09:05.640 than they might have been
00:09:06.560 if we just continued spending,
00:09:07.980 but we can't continue the spending.
00:09:09.960 And this is why Trump has come out
00:09:11.580 and said that he wants to put the country
00:09:14.280 on a firmer economic footing.
00:09:17.160 He wants to do what he can
00:09:19.760 so that this isn't just about
00:09:21.740 what the stock market looks like now.
00:09:24.660 It's how far is your paycheck going
00:09:27.240 in a year, in two years, in five years?
00:09:32.400 This is about turning around
00:09:35.160 a massive part of the economic engine here
00:09:39.600 so that it is,
00:09:40.420 and really redoing parts of it
00:09:42.900 so that it can function more efficiently
00:09:44.640 for everyone.
00:09:46.820 Because we've seen what the inflation has done
00:09:49.580 to your ability to pay your rent.
00:09:52.060 We've seen,
00:09:52.880 if you are asset light in this economy,
00:09:55.820 meaning if you don't own a lot of stuff
00:09:58.120 that is productive,
00:09:59.040 stocks, real estate, things like that,
00:10:01.780 if you don't know,
00:10:02.500 then that all gets inflated
00:10:04.580 along with the inflation,
00:10:05.740 and so what it does
00:10:06.560 is it squeezes
00:10:08.020 those who are working
00:10:10.980 for paychecks for a living,
00:10:13.580 which is the vast majority
00:10:14.920 of the American people.
00:10:16.140 Those who are doing work
00:10:18.840 and trying to get ahead
00:10:19.960 and just trying to pay their bills
00:10:21.080 and do it the right way,
00:10:22.260 they have a tougher time.
00:10:24.560 And it is effectively a tax on them
00:10:27.300 to continue to spend
00:10:28.200 at the levels we have currently seen.
00:10:29.920 This has to be addressed.
00:10:32.040 This has to be changed.
00:10:33.200 And this is also why
00:10:34.800 you will see Democrats are,
00:10:38.020 you'll notice,
00:10:38.660 there's no spending
00:10:39.540 that they really want to cut.
00:10:41.640 They like the control
00:10:43.340 that this gives them.
00:10:44.200 There's a tremendous amount
00:10:45.300 of social engineering
00:10:46.700 that is possible
00:10:47.620 when you're spending
00:10:48.760 so much money
00:10:50.120 that nobody even knows
00:10:52.040 what you're spending it on
00:10:53.100 or who's getting it.
00:10:54.760 It is such a shield.
00:10:56.420 It is such a shroud
00:10:57.480 for corruption.
00:10:58.940 Because if you don't,
00:10:59.880 if no one really knows
00:11:00.880 where the money's going,
00:11:01.820 the numbers are so big
00:11:03.400 and there's so many things,
00:11:05.040 how can you ever get
00:11:05.800 a handle on this?
00:11:06.560 This is where Trump
00:11:07.280 and Elon and Doge come in.
00:11:09.220 And the fight
00:11:12.220 over the government shutdown,
00:11:15.400 I have a tough time
00:11:17.680 getting all that energized
00:11:21.860 about this one way or the other.
00:11:23.020 We've been through this before.
00:11:25.080 It's a lot of brinksmanship
00:11:26.700 and blame game stuff
00:11:28.180 and eventually the government
00:11:29.520 will be funded.
00:11:30.420 If they allow it
00:11:31.480 to be defunded temporarily
00:11:32.960 or the funding to run short,
00:11:35.600 I believe Trump then
00:11:36.740 is in a position
00:11:37.380 to just decide
00:11:38.240 what is considered essential
00:11:40.100 and what keeps running.
00:11:41.060 So there's that.
00:11:42.300 But here is Speaker Johnson
00:11:43.680 who is trying to wrangle
00:11:46.560 all of this.
00:11:48.100 And he's saying
00:11:49.220 that it's Democrats
00:11:50.580 who are taking this
00:11:52.940 to the point
00:11:53.320 where there could be
00:11:53.860 a shutdown.
00:11:54.460 Play one.
00:11:56.220 They're planning to vote down
00:11:57.200 the simple bill.
00:11:57.860 They are going to try
00:11:58.940 to shut the government down.
00:11:59.880 Every House Democrat
00:12:00.640 will participate in this.
00:12:02.020 It looks like that would be
00:12:03.320 a shame if it's true.
00:12:04.440 I hope some of them
00:12:05.220 will have a moment of clarity
00:12:06.520 themselves and do the right thing,
00:12:07.880 but it looks like
00:12:08.520 they're going to try
00:12:08.960 to shut down the government.
00:12:10.100 It's a striking new posture
00:12:11.560 for Democrats
00:12:12.200 who have always said
00:12:13.660 they've just been apoplectic
00:12:15.020 about the prospect
00:12:15.980 of government shutdowns.
00:12:17.280 Democrats have been insisting
00:12:18.460 they're fighting
00:12:18.920 for federal workers.
00:12:19.840 You're about to see,
00:12:20.980 again, on vivid display,
00:12:22.620 very clear the contrast.
00:12:24.120 You will see one team
00:12:25.180 that is working
00:12:25.960 to fund the government
00:12:27.320 and make sure
00:12:27.860 we do the responsible thing.
00:12:29.120 And you're going to see
00:12:29.680 another posing to CR
00:12:31.000 because they've now
00:12:31.880 exposed the truth.
00:12:32.940 They're not for federal workers.
00:12:34.040 They're not for anyone.
00:12:34.880 All the people they've said
00:12:35.740 in the past
00:12:36.160 that are going to be harmed
00:12:36.800 would be by their votes.
00:12:39.940 This is one of the challenges
00:12:41.400 of opposing Democrats
00:12:43.220 is that they stand for
00:12:44.960 whatever they need
00:12:45.560 to stand for in the moment.
00:12:46.720 They change their mind
00:12:47.460 on everything.
00:12:48.100 They change their principles
00:12:49.160 as if they have any.
00:12:50.080 They change what they believe in.
00:12:52.320 It doesn't.
00:12:53.180 It's about power.
00:12:54.320 And when you're talking
00:12:55.240 about the government
00:12:56.000 and how it spends money,
00:12:57.060 there might be no more
00:12:59.060 clear abuse of power
00:13:01.940 that Democrats can engage in
00:13:03.980 than what we see,
00:13:05.260 which is spending us
00:13:05.960 all into oblivion.
00:13:07.660 Tackling this
00:13:08.260 is a critical issue.
00:13:10.720 I've said it
00:13:11.300 from the very beginning.
00:13:12.180 Our borders
00:13:12.820 and the government
00:13:15.080 cutting it down to size,
00:13:17.040 cutting the spending down,
00:13:18.000 cutting the bureaucracy down,
00:13:18.980 the two most important missions
00:13:20.420 of the Trump administration.
00:13:21.720 We've seen excellent work
00:13:23.800 at the border so far.
00:13:25.000 Thank you, Tom Homan and team.
00:13:27.260 And credit to DHS Secretary Noem.
00:13:29.500 Credit to the people
00:13:30.220 that are doing what is necessary
00:13:32.120 to secure our borders
00:13:33.120 so that it's 95% down
00:13:34.720 for illegal crossings.
00:13:36.200 Interior enforcement
00:13:37.220 is the harder problem.
00:13:38.900 I will always be honest with you.
00:13:40.340 That is even more challenging
00:13:41.600 and that will require
00:13:42.800 more political will
00:13:43.860 and more infrastructure.
00:13:45.580 It's millions.
00:13:46.680 It's tens of millions of people
00:13:47.940 that you're talking about
00:13:48.780 who are at least possible deportees.
00:13:51.600 And then you have
00:13:53.580 tackling the government beast.
00:13:55.880 You see, the Democrats
00:13:56.900 had created a system
00:13:58.780 where they win no matter what.
00:14:00.080 Even when they lose elections,
00:14:01.340 they win because
00:14:01.860 the spending is automatic.
00:14:03.240 Because the bureaucracy is huge.
00:14:05.520 Because there's no accountability
00:14:06.720 in D.C.
00:14:07.780 And it's just one free-for-all
00:14:09.400 with your money.
00:14:10.480 You go to work,
00:14:11.520 you spend your life
00:14:12.460 and your time
00:14:13.420 trying to be productive
00:14:14.820 and provide for your family.
00:14:17.140 And the shenanigans in D.C.
00:14:19.400 means that you're a hamster
00:14:20.720 on a treadmill
00:14:21.420 that keeps going faster
00:14:22.400 and faster and faster.
00:14:23.640 And how are you supposed
00:14:24.620 to keep up?
00:14:26.500 That's not good.
00:14:27.920 And Trump recognizes that.
00:14:29.600 His team sees what's going on
00:14:31.580 and they are taking steps
00:14:33.760 to make this better.
00:14:35.960 It's not going to be perfect.
00:14:37.340 It's not going to be quick.
00:14:38.360 And it's not going to be that easy.
00:14:40.160 There's going to be
00:14:40.820 a little bit of disruption.
00:14:41.720 The markets may be
00:14:42.940 in some tumult here
00:14:43.880 for a few months.
00:14:45.380 Of course.
00:14:46.880 Of course,
00:14:47.500 when you're correcting a problem,
00:14:49.480 there tends to be, right,
00:14:50.800 and every action
00:14:51.980 has an equal
00:14:52.520 and opposite reaction.
00:14:53.380 When you stop overspending,
00:14:55.380 it's going to feel like
00:14:56.640 things are a little lean sometimes.
00:14:58.780 But for a vast majority of people,
00:15:01.340 I truly believe
00:15:02.040 as a vast majority of Americans,
00:15:03.540 this is clearly the way.
00:15:05.920 It has to be done
00:15:07.140 and it has to be done now.
00:15:08.480 By the midterms,
00:15:09.720 we're back to business as usual.
00:15:11.660 By the midterms,
00:15:13.360 we're just arguing over
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00:17:01.180 Welcome back
00:17:01.880 into Clay and Buck.
00:17:02.660 Let's talk tariffs
00:17:03.560 for a moment.
00:17:04.260 Not for a moment.
00:17:05.000 All right.
00:17:05.700 Strap in.
00:17:06.740 It's going to get wild.
00:17:07.920 We're going to talk
00:17:08.380 a little tariff
00:17:09.620 Econ 101 history.
00:17:12.520 Maybe we'll dive
00:17:13.920 into the Smoot-Hawley tariffs
00:17:16.560 back in, what,
00:17:17.500 the 30s.
00:17:19.500 This is a moment
00:17:21.580 where I think
00:17:22.100 it's important
00:17:22.660 to look at the basics
00:17:27.080 because things are getting
00:17:29.500 a little bit feisty
00:17:30.460 on the tariff front.
00:17:32.880 And let me just give you
00:17:33.600 the news on this
00:17:34.520 and then we'll do
00:17:34.920 a little bit of
00:17:35.440 a deep dive
00:17:36.720 into the analysis.
00:17:37.360 Donald Trump
00:17:38.700 from Truth Social
00:17:39.600 I'm quoting now
00:17:41.160 based on Ontario,
00:17:43.060 Canada placing
00:17:43.820 a 25% tariff
00:17:45.900 on electricity
00:17:46.700 coming into
00:17:48.260 the United States.
00:17:49.160 I've instructed
00:17:49.840 my Secretary of Commerce
00:17:51.520 to add an additional
00:17:53.160 25% tariff
00:17:54.860 to 50% tariff
00:17:56.460 on all steel
00:17:57.620 and aluminum
00:17:58.720 coming into
00:18:00.000 the United States
00:18:00.640 from Canada.
00:18:01.440 One of the highest
00:18:02.460 tariffing nations
00:18:03.380 anywhere in the world.
00:18:04.240 Okay.
00:18:05.280 So he says
00:18:05.980 this will go into effect
00:18:06.960 tomorrow morning,
00:18:08.180 March 12th.
00:18:09.460 He says Canada
00:18:10.080 must drop
00:18:10.660 their anti-American
00:18:11.640 farmer tariff
00:18:12.460 of 250%
00:18:13.820 on various
00:18:14.780 U.S. dairy products.
00:18:16.560 I'll declare
00:18:17.160 a national emergency
00:18:17.960 on electricity
00:18:18.540 within the threatened area.
00:18:19.920 This will allow
00:18:20.620 the U.S.
00:18:21.160 to do
00:18:21.740 what needs to be done
00:18:23.120 to alleviate
00:18:23.620 this abusive threat
00:18:24.640 from Canada.
00:18:25.960 Okay.
00:18:26.740 A couple things here.
00:18:27.780 First of all,
00:18:28.500 as we've already established,
00:18:29.960 because this is so important,
00:18:30.760 I understand
00:18:31.560 the economic consensus
00:18:33.360 such as it exists
00:18:35.800 among economists
00:18:37.200 is that tariffs
00:18:38.680 are almost like
00:18:39.960 a sales tax
00:18:41.100 or it's a tax
00:18:42.240 that consumers pay
00:18:43.780 and it lessens
00:18:46.220 aggregate demand
00:18:47.400 and so they just say
00:18:49.320 that's bad.
00:18:50.400 They just view tariffs bad.
00:18:52.000 They want total free trade.
00:18:53.400 That's the least theoretically.
00:18:55.360 The problem with this,
00:18:57.440 and this is why
00:18:58.140 I gave economists
00:18:59.200 a little rough stuff yesterday,
00:19:00.840 the problem with this is
00:19:03.080 that there are
00:19:06.940 a lot of tariffs
00:19:07.520 and a lot of protectionist
00:19:08.760 policies in place
00:19:10.020 all over the world already,
00:19:11.400 including with our neighbors,
00:19:12.400 Mexico and Canada.
00:19:14.020 So we're not starting
00:19:15.620 from a place of
00:19:16.680 everything is level.
00:19:18.560 Why are you making it
00:19:19.900 not level
00:19:20.720 with your tariff?
00:19:22.200 This is where we get to
00:19:23.480 reciprocal tariff,
00:19:25.280 right?
00:19:25.840 In the word,
00:19:26.940 reciprocal.
00:19:27.640 They're doing this
00:19:28.640 to us
00:19:29.320 and so we do
00:19:30.680 something in response.
00:19:32.220 If my neighbor,
00:19:34.120 Clay hates leaf blowers
00:19:35.140 and by the way,
00:19:35.780 he is spot on.
00:19:36.580 Leaf blowers
00:19:36.960 drive me insane too.
00:19:38.340 If my neighbor
00:19:39.020 is using a leaf blower
00:19:40.080 super loudly
00:19:40.840 and they won't stop
00:19:42.660 at 7 o'clock at night,
00:19:44.280 8 o'clock at night,
00:19:45.280 because as we know,
00:19:46.900 leaf blowers
00:19:47.820 should be
00:19:48.280 a 9 to 5 thing.
00:19:50.200 You shouldn't wake
00:19:50.680 anybody up.
00:19:51.380 You shouldn't keep
00:19:51.820 anybody from going to sleep.
00:19:53.280 Anyway,
00:19:54.140 some of you are going
00:19:54.680 to take issue with that,
00:19:55.480 but you're wrong.
00:19:55.920 If I then
00:19:58.140 start playing
00:20:00.040 loud music,
00:20:01.100 if I start
00:20:02.000 blasting Beethoven
00:20:03.280 over the fence
00:20:04.300 so that they get
00:20:05.340 the hint,
00:20:06.040 I'm not the noise
00:20:07.180 polluter.
00:20:07.800 I'm engaged
00:20:08.400 in a reciprocal act
00:20:09.800 of noise making
00:20:11.140 so that they will stop,
00:20:12.900 although maybe they'll
00:20:13.380 just love the Beethoven.
00:20:14.760 This is a total digress.
00:20:15.980 You know what?
00:20:16.440 I'll come to this later.
00:20:17.340 I actually experienced
00:20:18.560 something in Nashville
00:20:19.440 when it comes to
00:20:20.320 classical music
00:20:20.920 that I thought was fascinating,
00:20:22.380 but I'll tell you about
00:20:23.040 that in a moment.
00:20:23.780 I don't want to
00:20:24.080 weave too much.
00:20:27.240 I don't want to
00:20:27.680 weave too much.
00:20:28.300 Trump weaves,
00:20:28.900 I weave.
00:20:29.380 Without Clay here,
00:20:30.220 my weave can sometimes
00:20:31.360 spin off into...
00:20:32.540 So,
00:20:33.500 I'm going to get back
00:20:34.540 onto tariffs.
00:20:35.540 Reciprocal tariffs,
00:20:36.840 meaning they are
00:20:37.940 doing this to us.
00:20:39.160 Why would a country,
00:20:40.520 why would Canada
00:20:41.440 have a 250% tariff
00:20:43.820 on our dairy
00:20:44.720 going across the border
00:20:45.900 unless there were
00:20:46.900 some benefit to them?
00:20:48.740 Of course,
00:20:49.880 there is some benefit
00:20:51.200 to your domestic producers
00:20:53.740 and domestic industry,
00:20:55.660 and so that's why
00:20:56.700 other countries
00:20:57.260 do this to us.
00:20:59.620 Right?
00:21:00.220 I mean,
00:21:00.480 we're just looking
00:21:01.280 at this logically.
00:21:02.240 Put aside,
00:21:03.040 you know,
00:21:03.260 whether somebody is...
00:21:05.380 I mean,
00:21:05.700 Paul Krugman
00:21:06.500 is an economist
00:21:07.120 who got a Nobel Prize.
00:21:08.260 The guy's a moron.
00:21:09.060 So,
00:21:09.560 you know,
00:21:10.160 it's not like we have
00:21:11.000 to just sit there
00:21:11.740 and say,
00:21:12.060 oh,
00:21:12.240 whatever you say,
00:21:12.940 economists.
00:21:14.140 Now,
00:21:14.740 you look at
00:21:16.100 individual tariffs
00:21:17.540 on an individual basis,
00:21:20.220 and you realize
00:21:21.040 they are a tool.
00:21:24.140 It is a tool.
00:21:25.500 Just like,
00:21:26.680 for example,
00:21:27.720 sanctions.
00:21:29.080 Now,
00:21:29.500 that's more aggressive,
00:21:31.020 but,
00:21:31.120 you know,
00:21:31.420 sanctions are a tool.
00:21:33.220 Sometimes good,
00:21:33.960 sometimes bad.
00:21:35.060 Tariffs,
00:21:35.500 sometimes good,
00:21:36.260 sometimes bad.
00:21:36.960 It depends.
00:21:37.800 It is case dependent.
00:21:38.940 And this is what gets lost
00:21:40.740 in so much
00:21:42.320 of the discussion
00:21:43.000 about this
00:21:43.600 because people just say
00:21:44.740 they have this
00:21:45.640 automatic wave
00:21:47.900 of their hand.
00:21:48.640 Well,
00:21:48.700 all the economists say,
00:21:50.240 and I'm like,
00:21:50.660 you know,
00:21:51.740 what do all the economists
00:21:52.680 really know?
00:21:54.060 You know,
00:21:54.380 you got to ask that question.
00:21:55.620 What have they gotten right
00:21:57.040 about the economy recently?
00:21:59.440 Not a whole lot.
00:22:00.920 Now,
00:22:01.360 there are obviously
00:22:01.820 exceptions to this.
00:22:02.780 We have some great economists,
00:22:03.820 and we've had Art Laffer
00:22:04.560 on the show
00:22:05.020 and Steve Boer on the show,
00:22:06.080 and there are brilliant guys
00:22:06.880 out there.
00:22:07.260 But I mean,
00:22:08.140 it's like the same thing
00:22:09.400 with the foreign policy consensus.
00:22:11.800 If you listen to the
00:22:12.880 D.C.-based foreign policy consensus,
00:22:15.280 there's not a war
00:22:16.000 we shouldn't fight.
00:22:16.760 There's not an invasion
00:22:17.820 we shouldn't do.
00:22:19.040 You know,
00:22:19.240 America is the global police,
00:22:21.000 and they've been very wrong,
00:22:23.160 and we've paid
00:22:23.860 a heavy price for this.
00:22:25.540 With the so-called
00:22:27.360 economic consensus,
00:22:29.080 we have been
00:22:30.300 on the receiving end
00:22:32.880 of tariffs
00:22:35.000 and what you could say
00:22:36.240 are trade war acts
00:22:37.680 for a long time,
00:22:38.680 and we don't do anything
00:22:39.340 in response.
00:22:39.860 This is where
00:22:41.380 Trump was right
00:22:42.200 on the issue of China
00:22:43.260 in his first term,
00:22:44.280 and the D.C. consensus
00:22:45.320 was so...
00:22:46.120 Remember,
00:22:46.780 I say D.C. consensus
00:22:47.920 because a lot of Republicans...
00:22:49.480 It's not just...
00:22:50.020 Democrats oppose Trump,
00:22:51.120 period.
00:22:52.160 Democrats, you know,
00:22:52.920 Trump says,
00:22:53.680 hey, it's a nice day.
00:22:54.580 They're like,
00:22:54.780 it's a terrible day.
00:22:55.980 75 degrees
00:22:57.140 and breezy is terrible.
00:22:58.860 They don't care.
00:23:00.700 But there are Republicans
00:23:01.800 that go along with this
00:23:02.940 as well.
00:23:03.320 There are Republicans
00:23:03.920 that decide,
00:23:05.480 oh,
00:23:06.200 I disagree with Trump
00:23:07.480 on this issue,
00:23:08.040 and they were proven wrong
00:23:09.080 in the first term on China
00:23:10.100 in my opinion
00:23:10.860 and I think
00:23:11.500 in everyone's opinion
00:23:12.180 because even Biden
00:23:13.260 kept a lot of the
00:23:14.320 Trump-China policies
00:23:15.800 in place on trade.
00:23:17.660 We want to get them
00:23:18.820 to stop doing
00:23:19.580 what they're doing
00:23:20.480 so we are then creating
00:23:22.760 the threat of tariffs
00:23:23.960 creates an even,
00:23:25.560 a more even playing ground
00:23:26.900 for our producers
00:23:27.700 and our consumers.
00:23:28.860 Why should we have
00:23:29.800 less access to their market
00:23:31.920 than they have to ours?
00:23:33.800 Ah.
00:23:34.660 And this is, again,
00:23:35.860 where it's a tool.
00:23:37.180 Now,
00:23:37.360 we have the
00:23:38.080 Premier of Ontario,
00:23:41.520 Doug Ford here,
00:23:43.800 talking tough
00:23:44.680 about tariff fights
00:23:46.020 with Trump.
00:23:47.120 Play this one.
00:23:47.980 Let me be clear.
00:23:49.160 I will not hesitate
00:23:50.160 to increase this charge.
00:23:52.060 If necessary,
00:23:53.140 if the United States escalates,
00:23:55.080 I will not hesitate
00:23:56.100 to shut the electricity
00:23:57.560 off completely.
00:23:59.340 Believe me
00:23:59.840 when I say
00:24:00.600 I do not want to do this.
00:24:02.300 I feel terrible
00:24:03.140 for the American people
00:24:04.340 because it's not
00:24:05.260 the American people
00:24:06.400 who started this trade war.
00:24:08.280 It's one person
00:24:09.360 who's responsible.
00:24:10.620 That's President Trump.
00:24:11.720 I'd rather be working together.
00:24:13.060 I want to sell
00:24:14.080 the U.S.
00:24:14.680 more energy,
00:24:15.700 more electricity,
00:24:17.740 more critical minerals.
00:24:19.020 I want to make Canada
00:24:19.960 and the United States
00:24:20.980 the richest,
00:24:21.900 most successful,
00:24:23.220 safest,
00:24:23.840 most secure...
00:24:24.440 Anyway,
00:24:25.440 the point is
00:24:26.280 he's throwing down
00:24:27.560 with Trump.
00:24:28.500 Now they're saying
00:24:29.080 they're going to make
00:24:29.700 our electricity cost
00:24:30.660 more specifically
00:24:31.340 to Minnesota,
00:24:32.700 Michigan,
00:24:33.220 and New York,
00:24:34.220 which get electricity
00:24:35.320 across the border
00:24:36.360 from Canada.
00:24:37.720 So they're going to
00:24:38.120 drive up energy prices
00:24:39.220 on us.
00:24:40.340 Trump is saying,
00:24:40.940 don't worry,
00:24:41.320 we're going to handle this.
00:24:43.080 Here's the way
00:24:43.760 to handle it.
00:24:44.620 We want also things
00:24:46.080 that aren't necessarily
00:24:47.000 purely economic as well,
00:24:48.800 which is where,
00:24:49.700 more so with Mexico
00:24:50.600 but also with Canada,
00:24:51.620 we want border cooperation.
00:24:54.220 So, see,
00:24:55.140 people say,
00:24:55.640 again,
00:24:55.960 tariffs are a tool.
00:24:57.800 Okay,
00:24:58.560 will something be
00:24:59.320 more expensive
00:25:00.940 as a result of tariff,
00:25:02.120 particularly over
00:25:02.720 a relatively short period of time?
00:25:04.240 Yes.
00:25:05.180 But are there
00:25:05.600 more important things
00:25:06.680 than the cost of goods
00:25:07.900 in that one sector
00:25:09.020 for that period of time?
00:25:11.240 This is a decision
00:25:12.280 to be made.
00:25:13.660 Right?
00:25:14.020 What is more important
00:25:15.240 that we keep,
00:25:16.820 I don't know,
00:25:17.180 the cost of textiles
00:25:19.560 brought in from Mexico,
00:25:21.260 although I think
00:25:21.540 those are even brought in
00:25:22.260 mostly from Southeast Asia now,
00:25:23.700 but whatever,
00:25:24.660 the cost of avocados,
00:25:26.320 that's what we always,
00:25:26.980 oh my gosh,
00:25:28.400 if we do anything
00:25:29.160 with Mexico in trade,
00:25:30.820 your avocado toast
00:25:32.460 is going to be,
00:25:33.020 and that's always
00:25:33.580 a cheap shot
00:25:34.200 they take at us
00:25:34.840 millennials and Gen Z
00:25:35.880 with the avocado.
00:25:36.440 Avocado toast is delicious.
00:25:37.640 But they say
00:25:38.660 your avocado
00:25:39.280 is going to be
00:25:39.820 so expensive.
00:25:41.040 All right.
00:25:42.380 If a 50% increase
00:25:45.140 in the cost of avocados
00:25:46.500 is something
00:25:48.400 that we're willing
00:25:49.060 to bear
00:25:49.620 in order to get
00:25:50.720 a 50% reduction
00:25:52.860 in,
00:25:53.880 I don't know,
00:25:54.860 fentanyl seizures
00:25:55.580 at the border,
00:25:56.280 is that worth it?
00:25:57.720 Again,
00:25:58.540 it is a tool.
00:26:00.180 It's something
00:26:00.920 that Trump is using.
00:26:02.060 Did Trump blow up
00:26:02.920 the economy?
00:26:03.560 And this is the other part
00:26:04.400 of this I get to as well.
00:26:05.360 Did Trump blow up
00:26:06.220 the economy
00:26:06.640 in the first administration
00:26:07.740 when he was doing
00:26:09.140 these different maneuvers
00:26:10.120 on trade,
00:26:10.780 when he negotiated
00:26:11.580 the U.S.-Canada-Mexico agreement?
00:26:14.080 What is the record
00:26:15.040 of Trump on the economy?
00:26:17.180 Phenomenally strong,
00:26:18.060 right?
00:26:18.860 Who knows more
00:26:19.960 than Trump
00:26:20.740 who has been
00:26:21.300 in a position
00:26:21.940 of leadership,
00:26:22.980 who has been
00:26:23.240 a president
00:26:23.740 in recent memory?
00:26:27.340 No one.
00:26:28.460 No one is better
00:26:29.480 on the economy
00:26:30.180 than Trump,
00:26:31.240 I would say,
00:26:31.920 as president
00:26:32.380 in my lifetime.
00:26:33.240 Better than Bush,
00:26:33.900 better than Obama,
00:26:34.460 obviously better
00:26:35.320 than Biden.
00:26:37.520 I mean,
00:26:37.760 you can go back
00:26:38.360 to Reagan,
00:26:38.880 but there are
00:26:39.260 some things
00:26:39.780 that I would
00:26:40.120 quibble with
00:26:41.280 when it comes
00:26:41.860 to some of,
00:26:42.960 well,
00:26:43.780 really on immigration
00:26:44.860 with Reagan.
00:26:45.400 That's where
00:26:45.840 we have a departure
00:26:46.620 more so than
00:26:47.380 on the economy.
00:26:48.000 Nonetheless,
00:26:49.180 I think that Trump
00:26:50.540 has earned
00:26:51.760 the leeway
00:26:52.460 to pursue
00:26:53.860 these paths
00:26:54.840 without people
00:26:56.580 freaking out,
00:26:57.540 at least on our side.
00:26:58.760 The Democrats
00:26:59.180 are going to freak out
00:26:59.960 no matter what,
00:27:01.200 but on our side
00:27:02.020 of things,
00:27:03.420 it's going to be
00:27:04.220 a little bit
00:27:06.340 of time
00:27:06.940 and there's going
00:27:08.880 to be a little bit
00:27:09.660 of disruption
00:27:10.220 because to be
00:27:11.280 a disruptor
00:27:12.800 to the system
00:27:14.500 requires
00:27:15.660 some disruption.
00:27:18.360 This is very
00:27:19.320 straightforward.
00:27:20.520 You're not going
00:27:21.180 to fix this stuff
00:27:22.200 without there being
00:27:23.160 a little bit of,
00:27:24.000 whoa,
00:27:24.400 okay,
00:27:24.880 and there's going
00:27:25.940 to be kicking
00:27:27.200 and screaming
00:27:27.760 from bureaucrats
00:27:30.240 in the deep state
00:27:30.900 and the Democrats
00:27:31.520 and the anti-Trump media
00:27:33.220 that's looking
00:27:33.720 for anything to say
00:27:34.780 that is negative
00:27:35.420 for Trump.
00:27:36.740 So,
00:27:37.320 when we talk
00:27:38.240 about tariffs,
00:27:38.940 I just think
00:27:39.440 it's important
00:27:40.080 to put it in
00:27:41.240 the context
00:27:42.400 of,
00:27:42.800 one,
00:27:43.080 it's a negotiating tool.
00:27:44.260 Some of these tariffs
00:27:44.760 won't even go into effect.
00:27:46.480 Two,
00:27:47.020 they're reciprocal tariffs.
00:27:48.220 They are in response
00:27:49.720 to,
00:27:50.200 in a lot of cases,
00:27:51.380 tariffs that already exist
00:27:52.600 with other countries.
00:27:53.340 So we're saying,
00:27:53.660 hey,
00:27:53.960 knock that off
00:27:54.840 and we'll knock this off.
00:27:55.860 What's wrong with that?
00:27:57.880 I don't understand why.
00:27:59.340 Why should we say
00:28:00.140 that other countries
00:28:00.900 can punish our access
00:28:02.680 to their markets
00:28:03.340 and punish our producers
00:28:04.400 but we can't do the same?
00:28:06.920 And then three,
00:28:07.620 sometimes there are things
00:28:08.440 that are more important
00:28:09.260 than an increase
00:28:11.280 in the cost
00:28:11.840 in a certain industry
00:28:12.660 at a certain time.
00:28:13.920 This is really where
00:28:14.560 I get into the agreement
00:28:15.440 on Mexico,
00:28:17.100 with Mexico
00:28:17.720 on border issues.
00:28:19.640 That's a critical
00:28:20.500 U.S. national security
00:28:23.080 and sovereignty interest.
00:28:24.960 It's not just
00:28:25.780 about the price
00:28:26.400 of avocados.
00:28:28.000 So with that in mind,
00:28:29.520 I understand
00:28:30.260 we don't want
00:28:31.420 things to get crazy.
00:28:32.860 We don't want prices
00:28:33.780 to skyrocket.
00:28:34.780 The Trump administration
00:28:35.460 is sensitive to it
00:28:36.620 but just remember
00:28:37.820 the same people
00:28:39.420 who are criticizing this
00:28:41.340 with the most fervor
00:28:43.500 in the media
00:28:45.340 and in the commentary
00:28:46.220 were the ones
00:28:47.100 who were telling you
00:28:47.540 that Joe Biden
00:28:47.980 was sharp as a tack.
00:28:48.920 Why would you believe
00:28:49.560 them now?
00:28:50.820 Why do they have credibility
00:28:52.480 now on this issue?
00:28:53.540 So we give it
00:28:55.440 some time.
00:28:56.320 We let this play out.
00:28:57.720 We let Trump
00:28:58.840 do what he does.
00:29:01.280 Okay?
00:29:02.260 He's got Elon Musk.
00:29:03.760 You got people
00:29:04.380 running around Democrats.
00:29:05.520 Elon Musk is dumb.
00:29:07.080 Anybody who tells you
00:29:08.020 Elon Musk is dumb
00:29:08.980 shouldn't be listened
00:29:10.140 to on anything
00:29:10.920 and I don't know
00:29:11.820 how they can even
00:29:12.380 tie their own shoes.
00:29:13.620 They shouldn't be
00:29:14.200 listened to on a
00:29:14.780 single issue period
00:29:15.540 full stop.
00:29:16.080 All right?
00:29:17.760 We've got very smart people.
00:29:19.660 I do not have concerns
00:29:20.840 especially on the
00:29:22.120 economic and budget
00:29:23.520 cutting side
00:29:24.080 of this administration.
00:29:25.280 You have an all-star team
00:29:26.800 that has been assembled.
00:29:28.460 Look at the people
00:29:29.260 who are criticizing it.
00:29:30.760 They, I mean,
00:29:31.320 when I say,
00:29:31.760 look, it's okay to say
00:29:32.940 I disagree with this tariff
00:29:33.920 or that tariff.
00:29:34.360 That's fine.
00:29:34.880 I mean the ones
00:29:35.560 who are saying recession.
00:29:36.600 It's going to be terrible.
00:29:37.860 They're trying to induce
00:29:39.060 fear in people
00:29:40.320 to turn them against
00:29:41.780 what Trump is trying to do.
00:29:43.860 This is the moment
00:29:45.560 where we have to
00:29:47.100 sort of steal our spines
00:29:48.160 and say,
00:29:48.520 all right, let's go.
00:29:49.760 We wanted this ride.
00:29:50.960 We said,
00:29:51.500 we said,
00:29:52.040 Trump,
00:29:52.600 I'm tall enough
00:29:53.980 for the roller coaster.
00:29:55.220 Let's get on the roller coaster.
00:29:57.400 It's going to be fun.
00:29:58.500 It's going to be great.
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00:32:05.400 A couple of things
00:32:06.620 for the ombudsman here
00:32:08.020 which I guess I have to play
00:32:09.580 the ombudsman for myself
00:32:10.920 for today.
00:32:12.980 My wife pointed out
00:32:14.280 as she was listening
00:32:15.020 on the way back in
00:32:16.320 from being out and about
00:32:18.000 that I said the three-year,
00:32:19.520 I meant the five-year anniversary
00:32:21.000 of the COVID lockdowns
00:32:24.460 went into effect now
00:32:25.360 and I won't spend much time on it
00:32:28.440 because there's a lot
00:32:28.860 to talk about now
00:32:29.680 and that was five years ago
00:32:30.720 but it was insane
00:32:32.460 and I am very proud
00:32:34.640 that I opposed
00:32:35.800 the lockdowns
00:32:37.000 by the first week of,
00:32:39.100 I mean,
00:32:39.340 openly opposed
00:32:40.520 the whole thing
00:32:41.340 as soon as
00:32:42.680 two weeks to slow,
00:32:43.680 or was it 10 days
00:32:44.320 or two weeks,
00:32:44.840 two weeks to slow the spread?
00:32:45.940 I'm even forgetting now.
00:32:47.360 10 days to slow the spread,
00:32:48.600 whatever it was.
00:32:49.640 As soon as that was over,
00:32:50.640 I was like,
00:32:50.920 okay, let's go,
00:32:51.800 back to life.
00:32:52.860 We gave the hospital capacity,
00:32:55.620 we gave them time
00:32:56.440 to get ready
00:32:56.900 and catch up
00:32:57.560 and then they said no
00:32:59.020 and then we realized
00:33:00.720 it was a bait and switch
00:33:01.500 and then we realized
00:33:02.180 that we were getting
00:33:02.720 a little trial run
00:33:03.580 of authoritarianism
00:33:04.620 and it was the health bureaucracy,
00:33:09.440 it's like it had taken over
00:33:10.880 the government
00:33:11.380 and certainly at the state level
00:33:13.200 we saw just madness
00:33:14.820 and I'm very,
00:33:16.880 very thankful
00:33:17.600 to Donald Trump
00:33:19.100 for allowing the state of Florida,
00:33:21.620 remember he did not come down hard
00:33:23.720 and everyone wanted,
00:33:24.520 oh, the federal government,
00:33:25.820 he allowed the state of Florida
00:33:26.940 to be a laboratory of freedom
00:33:28.660 during COVID
00:33:29.320 and Governor DeSantis
00:33:30.540 for being the best,
00:33:32.640 nobody was perfect,
00:33:33.900 everybody had a little period
00:33:35.900 of a few weeks or so
00:33:36.980 or a couple of months
00:33:37.760 where they were allowing restrictions
00:33:39.760 in their states
00:33:40.720 but some people figured out
00:33:43.660 what was going on pretty quickly
00:33:44.840 and others,
00:33:45.480 like the Democrats,
00:33:46.800 just kept getting crazier
00:33:47.920 and crazier for years,
00:33:49.500 crazier and crazier.
00:33:51.200 So that,
00:33:51.700 I just wanted to know,
00:33:52.280 yes,
00:33:52.540 it's five years,
00:33:53.200 not three years.
00:33:54.360 It is amazing now,
00:33:55.480 I really think of my life
00:33:57.660 in my mind
00:33:58.440 and I'm sure I'm not the only one,
00:34:00.740 there are two events,
00:34:04.040 historical events
00:34:05.060 that are my,
00:34:06.440 my sort of before and after
00:34:10.340 for periods, right?
00:34:11.740 It's like when did the,
00:34:12.840 when did the medieval period
00:34:14.820 turn into the renaissance,
00:34:17.000 turn into,
00:34:17.400 you know,
00:34:18.460 those time markers
00:34:19.620 and it's 9-11
00:34:21.220 and COVID lockdowns.
00:34:23.540 Those are just two things
00:34:25.460 in my mind
00:34:26.240 that there's,
00:34:27.060 there was the before
00:34:28.240 and after world
00:34:29.160 that I lived in
00:34:30.300 and the before and after world
00:34:31.760 that I lived in with COVID.
00:34:33.740 So those are two,
00:34:35.040 two big things.
00:34:36.200 The other OmsBudsman note
00:34:37.940 that I would point out is,
00:34:39.640 yes,
00:34:40.200 I know that I need a haircut
00:34:41.260 for those of you
00:34:41.880 who are watching
00:34:42.480 on the video stream.
00:34:44.400 No,
00:34:44.900 I do not use a weed whacker
00:34:46.260 and I think that's very mean.
00:34:49.700 So yes,
00:34:50.200 I'm getting a haircut
00:34:50.920 probably even tomorrow.
00:34:52.780 I'll go see a couple of my,
00:34:54.520 I got a couple of Cuban-American friends here
00:34:56.480 who do a great job,
00:34:57.780 nice and quick.
00:34:58.560 They don't want to like
00:34:59.760 get chatty with me.
00:35:01.600 They just do a great job
00:35:02.640 cutting the hair
00:35:03.120 and they bring me
00:35:03.900 the Cuban coffee
00:35:05.340 and just a little tiny bit of it.
00:35:07.220 That stuff is good.
00:35:09.900 Almost Crockett level good,
00:35:11.020 I'm telling you.
00:35:12.460 All right,
00:35:13.000 so yes,
00:35:14.880 it is not in fact a,
00:35:17.740 you know,
00:35:18.120 I do not have a woolly mammoth
00:35:19.660 on my head.
00:35:20.440 All these things
00:35:21.060 that people say,
00:35:21.760 untrue.
00:35:22.880 Untrue,
00:35:23.520 fake news,
00:35:24.480 no woolly mammoth
00:35:25.300 on Buck's head.
00:35:26.600 So Elon Musk,
00:35:28.040 Elon Musk here
00:35:29.460 is,
00:35:30.920 first of all,
00:35:31.500 I wanted to note
00:35:32.240 because I brought it up yesterday
00:35:33.380 that
00:35:34.140 X was down
00:35:36.280 for a bit
00:35:37.580 and
00:35:38.800 that's troubling
00:35:39.780 because X is now
00:35:41.020 the first line
00:35:42.320 social media platform
00:35:43.920 for free speech.
00:35:45.120 it is,
00:35:46.940 I know,
00:35:47.700 I know about Truth and Rumble,
00:35:49.140 I'm on those platforms too,
00:35:50.360 but X has broader reach.
00:35:52.780 That's why it was acquired
00:35:53.980 for $44 billion,
00:35:56.260 whatever it is.
00:35:57.580 And Elon said something
00:35:59.380 that I just have to note
00:36:00.760 that this is very interesting
00:36:02.440 and
00:36:03.260 I'm not a
00:36:05.280 technical
00:36:06.200 wow,
00:36:07.900 yeah,
00:36:08.560 clearly,
00:36:09.100 I'm not a technological expert
00:36:10.420 so I can't speak to
00:36:11.960 how verified
00:36:14.100 or verifiable
00:36:14.760 this is,
00:36:15.340 but this is cut five.
00:36:17.020 He said that the massive
00:36:18.040 attack
00:36:18.540 on X,
00:36:20.120 which shut it down
00:36:20.920 various times
00:36:21.600 throughout the day,
00:36:22.480 came from,
00:36:23.600 anyone want to guess?
00:36:24.780 Play five.
00:36:25.320 There was a cyber attack
00:36:26.900 on X today
00:36:28.180 which shut it down
00:36:29.380 and may have been
00:36:30.000 foreign sourced.
00:36:31.240 It's a big story.
00:36:32.320 You want to give us
00:36:32.820 a moment on that?
00:36:34.920 Well,
00:36:35.420 we don't,
00:36:36.020 we're not sure
00:36:36.440 exactly what happened
00:36:37.020 but there was
00:36:37.540 a massive cyber attack
00:36:39.100 to try to bring down
00:36:40.100 the X system
00:36:40.700 with IP addresses
00:36:43.300 originating in the
00:36:44.720 Ukraine area.
00:36:47.140 IP addresses
00:36:48.200 in Ukraine?
00:36:50.280 Now,
00:36:50.840 maybe they were
00:36:51.620 spoofed,
00:36:52.900 mirrored,
00:36:53.500 I know there's
00:36:54.240 ways to fit.
00:36:55.320 But I think
00:36:56.080 Elon's a pretty
00:36:57.040 sophisticated player
00:36:58.240 when it comes to
00:36:59.000 the internet
00:36:59.540 and technology
00:37:01.080 so if anyone's
00:37:02.600 going to be able
00:37:03.280 to get his team
00:37:05.100 to figure out
00:37:05.700 what really happened
00:37:06.560 here,
00:37:07.120 I think he's very
00:37:08.140 high on the list.
00:37:10.040 I don't know
00:37:11.080 who would be
00:37:11.700 much better
00:37:12.360 at this.
00:37:13.580 So if he,
00:37:14.760 maybe he'll come out
00:37:15.400 and say,
00:37:15.780 oh,
00:37:15.940 they mirrored it
00:37:17.340 and it was actually
00:37:17.860 from somewhere else.
00:37:18.420 I don't know.
00:37:19.020 He said it's not,
00:37:19.900 he even said it's not
00:37:21.440 definitive or all that
00:37:22.740 clear,
00:37:23.200 but it is interesting
00:37:24.380 that that might
00:37:25.820 have happened.
00:37:26.260 I'm just going to
00:37:26.900 note that that
00:37:27.740 is a situation
00:37:28.760 that we should
00:37:29.760 pay some attention
00:37:30.500 to.
00:37:31.600 Somebody in Ukraine
00:37:32.560 would be taking it
00:37:33.600 upon themselves.
00:37:34.360 It was sophisticated
00:37:35.100 too.
00:37:36.020 This is not something
00:37:36.680 that I think would be
00:37:37.580 easy for some
00:37:38.360 individual to just
00:37:39.260 pull off.
00:37:40.680 What's wrong with
00:37:41.720 people being able
00:37:42.540 to share information
00:37:43.480 freely about Ukraine
00:37:44.860 and what's going on
00:37:45.540 over there?
00:37:46.680 Why would anyone
00:37:47.280 want to stop that?
00:37:48.100 I think that is
00:37:48.800 very interesting.
00:37:50.420 You had Senator
00:37:52.580 Mark Kelly
00:37:53.220 who wanted to be,
00:37:56.360 I think,
00:37:56.580 Vice President Mark
00:37:57.500 Kelly,
00:37:57.900 but probably made
00:37:59.020 a smart decision
00:37:59.740 not tying himself
00:38:00.720 to the Kamala
00:38:03.100 ticket,
00:38:04.640 to be fair.
00:38:06.380 This is cut
00:38:06.900 nine.
00:38:08.200 Elon Musk
00:38:09.400 called him,
00:38:11.260 said that it's,
00:38:11.980 Mark Kelly went
00:38:12.780 to Ukraine
00:38:13.360 on his own
00:38:14.300 to do one of
00:38:14.760 these Ukraine
00:38:15.220 tours.
00:38:15.980 Elon didn't like it.
00:38:16.820 I think he said
00:38:17.620 that that's
00:38:18.120 a betrayal
00:38:19.360 or he's betrayed
00:38:20.640 his country,
00:38:21.200 he's a traitor
00:38:21.600 for doing this.
00:38:22.940 And here's what
00:38:23.560 Mark Kelly said
00:38:24.320 about Elon
00:38:24.860 in response.
00:38:25.740 Play nine.
00:38:26.260 What do you think
00:38:26.520 of the Elon Musk
00:38:27.500 comments calling you
00:38:28.520 about me?
00:38:30.340 Obviously,
00:38:30.980 he's not a serious
00:38:31.520 guy,
00:38:31.940 he's a 12-year-old.
00:38:33.900 So I don't take
00:38:34.680 him seriously.
00:38:36.240 I served
00:38:37.120 our country
00:38:39.260 in the Navy
00:38:39.620 for 25 years.
00:38:40.540 When I was 22
00:38:41.140 years old,
00:38:41.620 I swore an oath
00:38:42.500 to defend the
00:38:43.480 Constitution.
00:38:44.880 I've lived that
00:38:45.540 oath my entire
00:38:46.300 life.
00:38:47.700 I'm not sure
00:38:49.200 if Elon has
00:38:50.180 sworn an oath
00:38:51.320 to anything.
00:38:52.320 If I was to guess,
00:38:53.280 it's probably
00:38:53.720 just billionaires
00:38:54.660 like themselves.
00:38:56.720 Wow,
00:38:57.400 really?
00:38:57.800 We're going to
00:38:58.100 do that,
00:38:58.940 huh?
00:38:59.760 If you start
00:39:00.900 off saying
00:39:01.880 you don't take
00:39:03.400 Elon Musk
00:39:04.220 seriously,
00:39:06.080 you shouldn't
00:39:06.940 be taken
00:39:07.460 seriously.
00:39:08.980 What could be
00:39:10.300 a dumber
00:39:10.800 thing to say
00:39:11.820 than the
00:39:13.040 richest guy
00:39:13.700 in the world
00:39:14.440 who's creating
00:39:15.340 more,
00:39:16.060 I thought
00:39:17.240 Elon was
00:39:17.740 amazing.
00:39:18.200 I read
00:39:18.440 Elon's biography
00:39:19.140 before he was
00:39:20.420 red-pilled on
00:39:20.880 the Trump
00:39:21.220 train.
00:39:21.520 The guy's
00:39:21.920 just done
00:39:22.360 incredible
00:39:22.760 stuff.
00:39:23.520 Incredible
00:39:23.980 stuff.
00:39:25.080 That's changing
00:39:26.040 the future
00:39:26.680 and providing
00:39:28.120 a lot of
00:39:28.700 value to
00:39:29.280 humanity
00:39:29.800 in the
00:39:30.300 process.
00:39:32.280 He's not
00:39:33.000 a serious
00:39:33.760 person.
00:39:34.640 If Elon
00:39:35.360 Musk is not
00:39:36.060 a serious
00:39:36.400 person,
00:39:36.820 who is?
00:39:38.080 Who is?
00:39:38.620 You have
00:39:39.540 to wonder
00:39:40.600 about this
00:39:41.580 assessment
00:39:42.220 of him.
00:39:42.840 The work
00:39:43.200 that Doge
00:39:43.820 is doing
00:39:44.400 is certainly
00:39:45.040 serious and
00:39:45.800 important.
00:39:47.860 Here he is,
00:39:48.800 Elon,
00:39:49.440 speaking about
00:39:50.160 that.
00:39:50.400 This is cut
00:39:50.880 seven.
00:39:51.340 He just
00:39:51.540 wants everybody
00:39:51.980 to know
00:39:52.560 how essential
00:39:54.300 Doge is so
00:39:55.440 essential to him.
00:39:56.160 Here's a guy,
00:39:56.920 let me just take a
00:39:57.600 step back before
00:39:58.140 we play that
00:39:58.600 cut.
00:39:59.900 Elon is,
00:40:01.180 as part of his
00:40:01.880 mission,
00:40:02.420 specifically with
00:40:03.060 SpaceX,
00:40:04.160 he wants us
00:40:05.100 to get to
00:40:05.480 Mars because
00:40:05.960 he wants
00:40:06.500 humanity to
00:40:07.140 be interplanetary
00:40:09.220 in case
00:40:10.020 something terrible
00:40:10.800 happens here.
00:40:12.780 Asteroid hit,
00:40:14.100 nuclear war,
00:40:15.200 whatever,
00:40:15.800 right?
00:40:16.020 I think he
00:40:16.460 actually is a
00:40:17.100 little worried
00:40:17.420 about climate
00:40:17.780 change.
00:40:18.240 I hope he's
00:40:18.640 moderated that
00:40:19.340 because I'm
00:40:19.800 not saying
00:40:20.080 Elon's right
00:40:20.500 about everything,
00:40:21.780 but he wants
00:40:23.220 us to be
00:40:23.480 interplanetary.
00:40:24.220 So he thinks
00:40:24.700 the survival
00:40:25.360 of the human
00:40:26.380 species over
00:40:28.320 the long run
00:40:29.280 requires us to
00:40:30.340 be a
00:40:30.560 multi-planetary,
00:40:31.300 I'm sorry,
00:40:31.640 I said inter,
00:40:32.080 I meant
00:40:32.480 multi-planetary,
00:40:33.440 multi-planetary
00:40:35.720 species.
00:40:36.860 Now,
00:40:37.860 he is willing
00:40:38.760 for free
00:40:40.340 to take time
00:40:41.700 away from
00:40:42.480 that mission
00:40:43.060 to help
00:40:43.580 Donald Trump
00:40:44.260 to try
00:40:45.280 to fix
00:40:46.020 the government
00:40:46.780 in this
00:40:47.420 country.
00:40:48.620 I think
00:40:49.520 that goes
00:40:50.280 to how
00:40:51.700 important he
00:40:52.240 thinks it
00:40:52.580 is.
00:40:53.120 I also
00:40:53.540 think anybody
00:40:54.440 who tells
00:40:54.980 you that
00:40:55.260 Elon's only
00:40:55.860 in this
00:40:56.200 for his
00:40:56.500 billionaire
00:40:56.760 friends
00:40:57.160 is a
00:40:57.600 moron.
00:40:59.000 That's
00:40:59.340 just,
00:40:59.840 that's
00:41:00.080 absurd.
00:41:00.560 He's the
00:41:00.860 richest guy
00:41:01.400 in the
00:41:01.600 planet.
00:41:02.080 Money,
00:41:02.600 he's got
00:41:03.920 more money
00:41:04.220 than any
00:41:04.580 other human
00:41:04.960 being alive
00:41:05.620 in the
00:41:06.180 world.
00:41:06.560 There's
00:41:06.780 7 billion
00:41:07.460 people in
00:41:07.940 the world.
00:41:08.220 He's the
00:41:08.500 richest one.
00:41:10.100 And you
00:41:10.660 think that
00:41:11.100 this is all
00:41:11.540 a game
00:41:11.940 because he
00:41:12.420 wants more
00:41:13.320 money?
00:41:14.240 Once you're
00:41:14.920 worth a
00:41:15.280 billion dollars,
00:41:16.240 how much
00:41:16.980 value does
00:41:18.320 money even
00:41:18.740 have additional
00:41:19.520 money?
00:41:20.540 It's a very
00:41:21.480 steep decline.
00:41:22.320 You know,
00:41:23.900 your first
00:41:24.360 hundred
00:41:24.560 thousand
00:41:24.920 dollars in
00:41:25.360 the bank,
00:41:25.860 I've been
00:41:27.080 there building
00:41:27.640 it up,
00:41:27.980 makes a big
00:41:28.440 difference.
00:41:28.820 That first
00:41:29.180 hundred
00:41:29.380 grand,
00:41:29.700 first ten
00:41:30.240 grand if
00:41:30.600 you don't
00:41:30.800 have it,
00:41:31.800 man,
00:41:32.620 you get
00:41:32.980 that,
00:41:33.360 I got a
00:41:33.780 couple of
00:41:35.040 months or
00:41:35.420 six months
00:41:35.960 or whatever
00:41:36.280 it is of
00:41:36.760 security in
00:41:37.540 the bank.
00:41:38.520 If I were
00:41:39.080 to lose my
00:41:39.460 job, that
00:41:39.800 really helps,
00:41:40.280 right?
00:41:40.500 When you're
00:41:40.900 worth $300
00:41:41.580 billion,
00:41:42.460 being worth
00:41:43.100 $350
00:41:43.820 billion doesn't
00:41:45.500 get you out
00:41:46.300 of bed in
00:41:46.820 the morning,
00:41:47.300 okay?
00:41:47.860 Nobody cares.
00:41:48.960 So these
00:41:50.060 attacks about
00:41:50.780 that are
00:41:51.420 absurd.
00:41:53.440 And anyway,
00:41:54.120 here's what he
00:41:54.680 says about
00:41:55.200 Doge and how
00:41:55.840 important it is.
00:41:56.360 This is cut
00:41:56.740 seven.
00:41:57.180 What motivates
00:41:57.980 you to do
00:41:58.600 this?
00:41:59.380 Was the
00:41:59.840 offer good?
00:42:00.700 It's tough
00:42:01.280 sledding.
00:42:02.340 Yeah, it
00:42:03.340 is tough
00:42:03.620 sledding.
00:42:05.340 But I think
00:42:05.940 we're doing
00:42:06.140 the right
00:42:06.340 thing here.
00:42:07.600 There have
00:42:08.040 been many
00:42:08.380 audits that
00:42:08.820 have pointed
00:42:09.160 out that
00:42:10.300 there's a
00:42:10.780 tremendous
00:42:11.020 amount of
00:42:11.300 waste
00:42:11.460 important in
00:42:11.940 the government.
00:42:12.640 In fact,
00:42:13.140 there was a
00:42:13.580 report issued
00:42:14.560 by the GAO,
00:42:16.380 the Government
00:42:16.600 Accountability
00:42:16.980 Office,
00:42:17.820 last year.
00:42:18.720 So during
00:42:19.260 the Biden
00:42:20.060 administration,
00:42:21.100 which estimated
00:42:21.860 the federal
00:42:22.800 government fraud
00:42:23.360 to be half
00:42:25.800 a trillion
00:42:26.120 dollars.
00:42:27.360 So just
00:42:28.140 because that's
00:42:28.780 not a Trump
00:42:29.480 administration
00:42:29.920 thing,
00:42:30.160 that's a
00:42:30.360 Biden
00:42:30.540 administration
00:42:30.880 thing.
00:42:31.700 So what
00:42:32.940 we're trying
00:42:33.200 to do is
00:42:33.980 get that
00:42:34.860 number down
00:42:35.480 to a much
00:42:35.960 smaller figure.
00:42:39.040 Half a
00:42:39.760 trillion dollars
00:42:40.520 of fraud?
00:42:41.600 A Biden
00:42:42.480 administration
00:42:43.220 figure based
00:42:44.680 on government
00:42:45.280 audits and
00:42:45.860 estimates?
00:42:46.760 Of $500
00:42:47.820 billion?
00:42:48.720 Why would
00:42:50.860 any person
00:42:52.260 not want
00:42:54.040 him to
00:42:55.000 end that?
00:42:56.960 Well,
00:42:57.640 now you
00:42:58.100 get into
00:42:58.680 the ugly
00:43:00.020 truth about
00:43:00.600 the Democrat
00:43:01.000 Party,
00:43:01.520 which is
00:43:01.860 that a
00:43:02.280 lot of
00:43:02.560 stuff that
00:43:03.060 does not
00:43:03.380 have support
00:43:04.640 on its own
00:43:05.220 is funded
00:43:05.720 by the
00:43:06.140 government.
00:43:06.460 A lot of
00:43:07.000 ideologically
00:43:07.840 toxic left-wing
00:43:09.260 stuff relies
00:43:10.500 on government
00:43:11.100 funding.
00:43:11.680 A lot of
00:43:12.880 uniparty
00:43:14.500 activity and
00:43:15.680 worry and
00:43:16.240 charge,
00:43:16.820 even when we
00:43:17.260 lose elections
00:43:18.080 relies on
00:43:19.220 the massive
00:43:19.940 federal
00:43:20.340 bureaucracy,
00:43:21.620 relies on
00:43:22.240 the bureaucracy's
00:43:23.000 ability to
00:43:23.560 give a lot
00:43:24.500 of money to
00:43:24.920 people that
00:43:25.360 nobody even
00:43:26.000 knows about.
00:43:27.860 We need
00:43:29.460 this transparency
00:43:30.600 and everyone
00:43:31.800 should want
00:43:32.980 it.
00:43:33.800 And that
00:43:34.420 Democrats
00:43:34.920 don't and
00:43:35.900 that they
00:43:36.240 hate Elon.
00:43:36.960 You got
00:43:37.260 lunatic
00:43:37.720 Democrats who
00:43:38.420 are lighting
00:43:40.280 Teslas on
00:43:41.060 fire now
00:43:41.960 as some
00:43:42.580 kind of
00:43:42.920 anti-Elon
00:43:43.460 protest.
00:43:44.320 You're not
00:43:44.560 going to
00:43:44.800 bankrupt
00:43:45.640 Elon by
00:43:47.000 throwing a
00:43:47.660 Molotov
00:43:48.060 cocktail in
00:43:49.080 a cyber
00:43:49.540 truck in
00:43:50.260 Oregon or
00:43:51.060 whatever.
00:43:51.500 You're just
00:43:51.840 being an
00:43:52.240 idiot,
00:43:52.640 right?
00:43:52.860 Which is
00:43:53.480 not a
00:43:53.880 surprise.
00:43:55.400 But why
00:43:56.400 do they
00:43:56.680 hate him
00:43:57.080 so much?
00:43:58.460 Because he's
00:43:59.880 a threat to
00:44:00.700 the ideological
00:44:01.480 system of
00:44:02.580 the left.
00:44:03.160 Because the
00:44:03.580 ideological
00:44:04.080 system of
00:44:05.320 the left,
00:44:05.820 the apparatus,
00:44:06.840 as I have
00:44:07.500 called it for
00:44:07.980 a long time,
00:44:09.540 needs the
00:44:10.380 fraud and
00:44:11.260 needs to
00:44:12.340 avoid and
00:44:13.500 evade
00:44:14.000 accountability
00:44:14.640 of the
00:44:15.140 American
00:44:15.460 people.
00:44:16.320 That's why
00:44:16.820 they get so
00:44:17.440 upset about
00:44:18.000 this.
00:44:19.020 That's why
00:44:19.520 there's such
00:44:19.960 rage about
00:44:21.480 Elon specifically.
00:44:23.160 There is no
00:44:24.040 good faith
00:44:25.140 reason to
00:44:26.220 be angry
00:44:27.040 about what
00:44:27.960 Elon is
00:44:28.740 trying to
00:44:29.400 accomplish.
00:44:30.500 And all
00:44:31.020 Democrats do
00:44:31.860 is complain
00:44:32.340 about it.
00:44:32.900 All they do
00:44:33.560 is try to
00:44:34.020 stand in his
00:44:34.580 way.
00:44:35.300 It tells
00:44:35.700 you everything
00:44:36.740 you need to
00:44:37.740 know.
00:44:38.700 Tomorrow,
00:44:39.360 join me
00:44:39.720 online for
00:44:40.360 a special
00:44:41.380 videotaped
00:44:42.080 interview.
00:44:42.600 It starts
00:44:43.040 at 11 a.m.
00:44:44.400 Eastern,
00:44:44.720 just an hour
00:44:45.160 before the
00:44:45.600 show.
00:44:46.360 It's a
00:44:46.660 conversation
00:44:47.180 with my
00:44:48.080 dad.
00:44:48.800 You won't
00:44:49.120 want to
00:44:49.340 miss.
00:44:49.920 I grew up
00:44:50.320 in New
00:44:50.480 York City,
00:44:50.940 as you
00:44:51.040 know,
00:44:51.400 in a
00:44:51.940 stockbroker
00:44:52.900 family.
00:44:53.660 My dad
00:44:53.960 was a
00:44:54.200 stockbroker
00:44:54.780 and made
00:44:55.420 his name
00:44:56.160 by making
00:44:57.400 incredible
00:44:58.120 calls in
00:44:58.980 advance about
00:44:59.680 where the
00:45:00.040 market's
00:45:00.400 going.
00:45:01.060 Most
00:45:01.280 notably,
00:45:01.840 he became
00:45:02.260 famous back
00:45:02.980 in 87
00:45:03.660 when he
00:45:04.280 called the
00:45:04.840 crash in
00:45:06.040 advance on
00:45:06.940 TV.
00:45:07.480 He nailed
00:45:07.920 it.
00:45:08.560 He also
00:45:08.940 called the
00:45:09.280 crash in
00:45:09.600 2009.
00:45:10.280 for his
00:45:10.800 private
00:45:11.060 clients.
00:45:11.680 It's an
00:45:12.020 incredible
00:45:12.560 track record.
00:45:13.840 The predictions
00:45:14.260 are too
00:45:14.620 numerous to
00:45:15.100 get into
00:45:15.420 all here,
00:45:16.180 but the
00:45:16.500 big one,
00:45:17.480 the latest
00:45:17.940 one,
00:45:18.720 comes tomorrow,
00:45:19.480 March 12th.
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00:46:22.960 welcome back into
00:46:23.740 Clay and Buck.
00:46:24.460 I was mentioning
00:46:25.780 before this story
00:46:27.260 about
00:46:27.900 Mahmoud
00:46:29.420 Khalil.
00:46:31.980 This is getting
00:46:32.840 a lot of attention
00:46:33.880 right now,
00:46:34.600 New York Times
00:46:35.200 and others all
00:46:36.160 up in arms
00:46:38.540 about this.
00:46:39.280 So let's
00:46:39.980 look at what
00:46:41.000 this story is.
00:46:41.680 You will remember,
00:46:43.620 and we talked
00:46:44.040 about it here
00:46:44.420 on the show,
00:46:45.740 there were
00:46:46.500 some just
00:46:48.060 outrageous
00:46:49.320 anti-Semitic
00:46:51.640 protests,
00:46:53.740 and a protest
00:46:54.680 doesn't really
00:46:55.640 cover it,
00:46:56.160 because some
00:46:56.500 of it was
00:46:57.260 threats,
00:46:59.000 trespassing,
00:46:59.980 destruction
00:47:00.400 of property.
00:47:01.780 There were
00:47:02.340 crimes that
00:47:02.900 were committed.
00:47:04.340 Now,
00:47:04.820 I'm not saying
00:47:05.600 these are all
00:47:06.520 serious felonies,
00:47:07.780 but there were
00:47:09.140 crimes that
00:47:09.720 were committed
00:47:10.040 on campus,
00:47:10.640 and Trump
00:47:12.300 has said that
00:47:13.480 they can either
00:47:14.120 clean up their
00:47:14.760 act or they're
00:47:15.240 going to lose,
00:47:15.840 I think they're
00:47:16.520 set to lose
00:47:17.400 hundreds of
00:47:17.780 millions of
00:47:18.100 dollars at
00:47:18.500 Columbia in
00:47:19.160 federal grants.
00:47:21.060 Why are private
00:47:21.680 institutions like
00:47:22.340 Columbia getting
00:47:22.820 hundreds of
00:47:23.240 millions of
00:47:23.540 dollars of
00:47:23.840 taxpayer money?
00:47:24.520 very good
00:47:25.680 question,
00:47:26.300 something to
00:47:26.700 be looked
00:47:27.000 at.
00:47:27.800 We're going
00:47:28.080 to look
00:47:28.280 at that.
00:47:29.280 But this
00:47:31.320 case is
00:47:32.040 interesting to
00:47:32.760 me.
00:47:33.380 There's a lot
00:47:33.940 of back and
00:47:34.280 forth.
00:47:34.460 The Speaker
00:47:34.800 of the House,
00:47:35.500 just so you
00:47:35.780 know,
00:47:35.900 it's already
00:47:36.400 gone up to
00:47:37.840 that level.
00:47:38.660 Speaker of the
00:47:39.000 House Johnson
00:47:39.540 took time from
00:47:41.400 the ongoing
00:47:42.800 wrangling of
00:47:44.220 members of
00:47:44.640 Congress for
00:47:46.260 the continuing
00:47:46.740 resolution to
00:47:47.760 address this,
00:47:49.580 and he said
00:47:51.300 that this is
00:47:52.300 cut 18.
00:47:53.420 Here's Speaker
00:47:53.840 Mike Johnson
00:47:54.480 play it.
00:47:55.080 If you're on a
00:47:55.760 student visa,
00:47:56.780 I'm going to
00:47:57.040 say this clearly,
00:47:57.720 if you're on a
00:47:58.320 student visa and
00:47:59.060 you're in America
00:47:59.660 and you're an
00:48:00.480 aspiring young
00:48:01.140 terrorist who
00:48:01.680 wants to prey
00:48:02.160 upon your
00:48:02.620 Jewish classmates,
00:48:03.740 you're going
00:48:04.220 home.
00:48:04.900 We're going to
00:48:05.420 arrest your
00:48:06.060 tail and we're
00:48:08.380 going to send
00:48:08.820 you home where
00:48:09.300 you belong.
00:48:10.120 And this is
00:48:10.740 just getting
00:48:11.140 started.
00:48:11.720 So, look,
00:48:12.740 I appreciate
00:48:14.640 free speech.
00:48:15.700 I used to
00:48:16.200 defend it in
00:48:16.780 courts, but
00:48:17.320 this is far
00:48:18.220 beyond the
00:48:18.720 pale of that.
00:48:19.280 When you are
00:48:19.620 threatening your
00:48:20.200 classmates and
00:48:20.960 spewing anti-Semitism
00:48:22.280 and all this
00:48:22.760 hatred, it's
00:48:24.000 enough.
00:48:24.540 And I think the
00:48:25.040 American people
00:48:25.460 understand that.
00:48:26.200 They're supporting
00:48:26.680 it, and I'm
00:48:27.100 glad we have a
00:48:27.640 president who's
00:48:28.280 strong enough to
00:48:29.400 lay down the
00:48:29.840 law.
00:48:31.360 So, I've got a
00:48:32.500 lot of thoughts
00:48:33.320 about this, and
00:48:34.720 I do want to
00:48:36.200 hear from some
00:48:37.280 of you, although
00:48:37.620 we're going to
00:48:38.040 be coming to the
00:48:38.560 close of the show
00:48:39.080 here pretty soon,
00:48:39.820 so maybe get
00:48:40.860 your talkbacks
00:48:41.520 ready and your
00:48:41.900 emails ready because
00:48:42.620 they won't have
00:48:42.980 that much time
00:48:43.480 for calls.
00:48:44.180 Here's what I see
00:48:45.120 on this.
00:48:45.360 This guy was part
00:48:47.300 of these Columbia
00:48:47.900 protests, Mahmoud
00:48:49.400 Khalil, we'll just
00:48:50.240 call him Khalil
00:48:50.800 from here on
00:48:51.840 out.
00:48:53.100 In Arabic class, my
00:48:54.120 Arabic name was
00:48:54.680 Khaled, for those
00:48:55.500 who want to know,
00:48:56.620 back in the day.
00:48:57.380 It's been a while.
00:48:58.360 I could still
00:48:58.800 write it, I guess,
00:48:59.460 if I had to.
00:49:02.020 So, yeah.
00:49:03.520 Anyway, so this
00:49:05.780 guy, Khalil, he
00:49:07.060 was arrested at
00:49:08.060 his home by ICE
00:49:08.780 agents and is
00:49:10.280 facing deportation.
00:49:12.200 He's a big
00:49:12.660 pro-Palestinian
00:49:13.580 guy.
00:49:14.560 Now, this is
00:49:15.380 where it all
00:49:15.800 gets kind of,
00:49:17.260 this is where a
00:49:17.740 lot of the
00:49:18.040 fighting happens,
00:49:18.740 right?
00:49:18.900 Because they
00:49:19.160 say, well, you're
00:49:19.640 allowed to be
00:49:20.020 pro-Palestinian.
00:49:20.900 Okay, yeah, you're
00:49:21.520 allowed to be
00:49:21.800 pro-Palestinian.
00:49:23.460 Sure, I'm talking
00:49:24.300 about First
00:49:24.640 Amendment stuff,
00:49:25.780 but are you
00:49:27.920 pro-Palestinian?
00:49:28.580 You're pro-Hamas?
00:49:29.220 Hamas is a
00:49:29.680 terrorist entity.
00:49:30.860 If you are
00:49:31.900 selling t-shirts
00:49:32.980 to raise money
00:49:34.080 for Hamas, it's a
00:49:35.880 designated terrorist
00:49:36.540 entity.
00:49:36.720 And I'm not saying
00:49:37.220 he did this, I'm
00:49:37.820 just working through
00:49:38.860 some of the
00:49:40.560 intricacies here
00:49:43.220 of this case.
00:49:44.500 If you're selling
00:49:45.100 t-shirts or mugs,
00:49:47.200 if you're selling
00:49:48.140 a mug, I heart
00:49:49.060 Hamas, first of
00:49:50.240 all, you're a
00:49:50.740 lunatic.
00:49:51.320 Second of all,
00:49:52.580 and you're trying
00:49:53.240 to send that
00:49:53.640 money to Hamas,
00:49:54.260 that's material
00:49:54.720 support to a
00:49:55.300 terrorist organization.
00:49:56.140 I think you can
00:49:56.420 get 10 years
00:49:57.400 federal for that.
00:49:58.580 So that's clearly
00:49:59.240 a violation of
00:50:00.200 the law.
00:50:01.300 And that's for
00:50:02.020 anybody.
00:50:03.020 You're here as
00:50:04.680 an American,
00:50:05.400 green card hold,
00:50:05.980 it doesn't matter.
00:50:06.540 You can't do
00:50:07.180 that.
00:50:07.360 You're in U.S.
00:50:09.140 jurisdiction of
00:50:09.740 any kind and
00:50:10.340 you're doing
00:50:10.760 material support
00:50:11.500 for a terrorist
00:50:11.860 organization.
00:50:13.140 Now, can you
00:50:13.660 speak in favor
00:50:14.960 of a terrorist
00:50:15.660 organization under
00:50:16.680 the First Amendment?
00:50:17.300 Clearly, you
00:50:17.860 can.
00:50:18.940 So you can
00:50:20.180 say, you
00:50:21.460 know, you can
00:50:22.640 say that I
00:50:23.140 agreed with,
00:50:24.400 you know, the
00:50:25.760 plans of Abu
00:50:27.060 Bakr al-Baghdadi
00:50:28.120 to create a
00:50:28.840 caliphate or
00:50:29.340 something.
00:50:29.840 You know, you
00:50:30.320 can say that,
00:50:32.080 but you can't
00:50:32.660 take any steps
00:50:33.640 to advance or
00:50:34.580 assist or help
00:50:35.260 because, again, we
00:50:36.040 get back to
00:50:36.500 material support.
00:50:37.360 You can't
00:50:37.920 be a U.S.
00:50:41.700 spokesman for
00:50:42.840 that group.
00:50:43.480 Then you're
00:50:43.740 definitely going
00:50:44.220 to Gitmo or
00:50:44.960 something.
00:50:45.380 So there are
00:50:46.720 places where this
00:50:47.580 crosses over very
00:50:49.220 quickly.
00:50:50.480 Here is what we
00:50:51.600 know about this
00:50:52.120 guy, Khalil.
00:50:52.740 He was at
00:50:53.700 Columbia.
00:50:54.200 He was a
00:50:54.600 prominent face
00:50:57.100 of these, again,
00:50:58.740 they call them
00:50:59.080 protests.
00:50:59.680 It was really,
00:51:00.820 and there were
00:51:01.580 Jewish students
00:51:02.220 who were, you
00:51:03.540 know, hounded and
00:51:04.680 harassed on campus.
00:51:06.040 I hate all of
00:51:08.080 that.
00:51:08.900 Like, I, you
00:51:09.960 know how I feel
00:51:10.820 about Israel's
00:51:12.120 fight against
00:51:12.860 Hamas.
00:51:13.820 Could not be
00:51:14.680 more in favor of
00:51:15.840 Israel doing what
00:51:16.620 it needs to defend
00:51:17.200 itself.
00:51:17.560 You know how I
00:51:18.280 feel about
00:51:19.000 anti-Semitism,
00:51:19.860 and it has no
00:51:22.020 place anywhere.
00:51:24.720 Here's the only
00:51:25.460 place where I have
00:51:26.320 a little bit of a
00:51:27.020 question about this.
00:51:28.280 on the one
00:51:29.700 hand, I feel
00:51:31.300 very strongly
00:51:32.460 that if you're
00:51:34.020 a guest here,
00:51:36.160 you've got to be
00:51:36.720 on, meaning if
00:51:37.520 you're not, you
00:51:38.200 know, if you're
00:51:38.480 somebody who's
00:51:39.100 visited, and this
00:51:39.900 even includes
00:51:40.460 people who have a
00:51:41.100 green card, you're
00:51:41.600 not yet a
00:51:42.200 citizen.
00:51:43.200 If you break the
00:51:44.060 law, you've got
00:51:44.620 to go.
00:51:45.700 You've got to go.
00:51:47.220 Right?
00:51:47.700 That I am, and
00:51:48.860 that has not been
00:51:49.580 the case as we've
00:51:50.220 seen with a lot of,
00:51:50.980 there's so much of a
00:51:52.280 lack of enforcement on
00:51:53.160 this, but if you
00:51:54.040 break the law, you've
00:51:54.700 got to go.
00:51:55.080 And it doesn't
00:51:57.580 have to be like a
00:51:58.380 rape or a murder,
00:51:59.300 it's just if you
00:51:59.920 break the law, and
00:52:01.580 you are charged with
00:52:03.160 a crime, you've got
00:52:04.200 to go.
00:52:06.020 The issue that I
00:52:07.320 see here is this
00:52:12.600 guy, I don't
00:52:13.340 believe, has been
00:52:14.000 charged with any
00:52:14.660 crime.
00:52:16.120 I don't believe he's
00:52:16.960 been charged with
00:52:17.380 any crime.
00:52:18.860 His behavior, from
00:52:20.420 what I can gather
00:52:22.220 from everything, is
00:52:23.220 abhorrent.
00:52:24.020 I disagree with
00:52:25.100 him on everything.
00:52:25.820 I think he's a
00:52:26.280 scumbag.
00:52:27.380 He's a guest in
00:52:28.460 this country, yes, so
00:52:29.440 he has that elevated
00:52:30.760 expectation of, you
00:52:33.860 know, you don't get
00:52:34.620 to just do whatever.
00:52:35.380 Like, you don't get,
00:52:36.400 and now in the
00:52:38.100 actual laws that
00:52:40.160 pertain to this with
00:52:41.260 when it comes to
00:52:42.140 immigration, there
00:52:43.600 are, you know,
00:52:45.380 there are things that
00:52:46.900 specifically cite a
00:52:49.040 desire to overthrow
00:52:50.840 the United States by
00:52:52.480 force.
00:52:52.880 So if you're even, so
00:52:54.140 there are ideological
00:52:55.620 places where, you
00:52:58.520 know, the first
00:52:59.220 thing, if you come to
00:53:00.020 this country and
00:53:00.800 you're, let's say
00:53:01.840 you're from
00:53:02.140 communist China and
00:53:03.620 you are visiting on a
00:53:04.920 student visa and you
00:53:05.940 start saying out in
00:53:06.840 public, I think that
00:53:08.480 there should be a
00:53:09.260 violent revolution to
00:53:10.180 overthrow the United
00:53:10.840 States government.
00:53:11.660 I'm at, we can, we
00:53:13.020 can kick your butt
00:53:13.880 out of here.
00:53:14.520 That isn't the law.
00:53:15.320 There's no, no doubt
00:53:17.400 about that.
00:53:18.620 Right?
00:53:19.060 That is, that is
00:53:19.720 statute.
00:53:20.220 I actually was
00:53:20.820 reading the statute
00:53:21.480 before I came on this
00:53:22.580 morning to make sure
00:53:23.440 a lot of immigration
00:53:25.980 statutes are ignored, as
00:53:28.620 we know, and that
00:53:29.280 should not be the case
00:53:30.260 because they are
00:53:31.000 existing law, just like
00:53:31.980 all the other laws
00:53:32.640 with this guy, where I
00:53:35.080 think it gets
00:53:35.720 interesting is, has he,
00:53:38.120 if he's going to be
00:53:39.440 sent home as a, as
00:53:42.220 somebody who's here on a
00:53:43.160 student visa, as a green
00:53:44.280 card holder, I've heard
00:53:45.380 both, by the way, guys,
00:53:46.320 can we check on that?
00:53:47.040 Is he a green card
00:53:47.840 holder, or is he here
00:53:48.860 on a student visa, or
00:53:49.880 is it, is it one than
00:53:51.400 the other?
00:53:51.820 Is it both?
00:53:52.820 Got to check his
00:53:53.420 status.
00:53:54.460 You should be on your
00:53:55.400 best behavior here.
00:53:56.280 You do not have the
00:53:56.960 full rights of a citizen
00:53:57.820 here.
00:53:58.300 Obviously, you can't
00:53:59.240 vote.
00:53:59.440 There's a whole bunch
00:53:59.960 of things.
00:54:00.320 If you're a guest
00:54:01.040 here, you, you should
00:54:02.520 just be thankful and
00:54:03.820 total obedience to the
00:54:05.000 law.
00:54:05.680 If he broke the law, and
00:54:07.740 that's why we're sending
00:54:08.700 him home, well, there
00:54:12.080 should, there should
00:54:13.000 at least be a charge
00:54:14.400 filed, right?
00:54:15.260 That somebody should
00:54:15.740 charge him with, and
00:54:18.080 there's a bunch that
00:54:18.760 I think would apply
00:54:19.520 here.
00:54:20.960 Harassment, you know,
00:54:21.720 intimidation, menacing,
00:54:23.100 I believe, is a
00:54:23.820 statute in the penal
00:54:24.700 code in New York
00:54:25.460 City, if memory
00:54:27.680 serves, from when I
00:54:28.280 was in the NYPD,
00:54:29.220 briefly in the NYPD,
00:54:31.160 and I was kind of
00:54:32.760 like a hired nerd for
00:54:33.760 the NYPD.
00:54:34.500 I wasn't doing the
00:54:35.100 real cop stuff, but I
00:54:37.420 think menacing would
00:54:38.320 be in there, you
00:54:39.880 know, assault and
00:54:40.440 battery, destruction
00:54:41.400 of property, any of
00:54:42.320 that, but to say that
00:54:43.960 he's done it, and
00:54:45.320 therefore we're
00:54:45.820 kicking him out
00:54:46.640 without him being
00:54:48.840 charged with any of
00:54:49.980 that, that, I know
00:54:51.580 he's a scumbag, I
00:54:52.640 don't like this guy,
00:54:53.580 or what he stands
00:54:54.240 for either, but we
00:54:56.440 have, there is due,
00:54:57.660 like, there is due
00:54:58.280 process, we still do
00:54:59.280 need due process, so
00:55:01.340 has he gotten that
00:55:02.340 due process yet?
00:55:04.220 That, that is a
00:55:05.440 question that I have
00:55:08.400 about this.
00:55:09.460 A judge has already
00:55:10.560 blocked, now it's, I'm
00:55:11.920 sure, a left-wing
00:55:12.480 judge, his removal
00:55:15.120 from the U.S.
00:55:16.500 pending an action
00:55:17.680 on habeas, as in
00:55:19.580 why is this guy in
00:55:20.880 custody?
00:55:22.740 This is going to get
00:55:23.760 interesting, because if
00:55:25.040 he's in custody for
00:55:26.940 not, you know, for
00:55:28.820 saying bad things,
00:55:31.380 okay, well, that's not
00:55:34.040 really a crime.
00:55:35.800 If he's in custody for
00:55:37.360 breaking laws, let's
00:55:38.680 bring that charge, and
00:55:39.800 then let's go, and
00:55:40.820 let's find him guilty,
00:55:41.660 and then let's send
00:55:42.400 his ass home.
00:55:43.740 Very straightforward.
00:55:44.760 Again, I'm all for
00:55:46.260 you have to behave,
00:55:48.800 and you have to obey
00:55:50.760 the law in this
00:55:51.940 country, if, especially
00:55:53.660 if you're a visitor,
00:55:54.320 or else you go home,
00:55:55.320 no ifs, ands, or
00:55:56.140 buts, but if we're
00:55:58.700 saying that he was
00:56:00.440 trying to call for
00:56:01.400 the violent, I think
00:56:02.480 he wanted to call for,
00:56:03.580 and by the way, I'm
00:56:04.560 raising questions here.
00:56:05.640 I haven't been able to
00:56:06.180 look at everything this
00:56:06.980 guy's ever said, and
00:56:08.080 there's, I think he
00:56:09.340 said he wants to, the
00:56:10.180 downfall of Western
00:56:11.560 civilization, right?
00:56:13.040 And that's where we
00:56:13.860 get to, can you look
00:56:15.280 at the downfall of
00:56:16.360 Western civilization
00:56:17.300 as the equivalent
00:56:20.580 in statute of a
00:56:21.820 violent overthrow of
00:56:22.620 the United States
00:56:23.160 government?
00:56:25.120 You know, it's, it's
00:56:26.420 getting pretty close.
00:56:27.840 This is, this is where
00:56:29.100 the judgment starts to
00:56:30.260 come in.
00:56:31.600 Again, anybody who
00:56:32.600 wants the violent
00:56:33.160 overthrow of, or the
00:56:34.240 overthrow, rather, of
00:56:34.980 Western civilization, I'm
00:56:36.020 opposed to, with every
00:56:36.840 fiber of my being, it
00:56:37.860 would be a disaster, not
00:56:38.780 just for those of us
00:56:40.020 who live in Western
00:56:40.880 civilization, but for
00:56:41.900 the rest of the world,
00:56:42.540 because we kind of
00:56:43.620 prop up civilization for
00:56:44.880 everybody else, too,
00:56:45.640 just saying.
00:56:47.360 So I want to see what
00:56:48.600 exactly it was that, and
00:56:51.120 this is going to come
00:56:51.620 out in the habeas,
00:56:52.360 habeas corpus
00:56:53.420 petition, right?
00:56:54.140 This is what they're
00:56:54.860 fighting over.
00:56:55.420 Okay, well, why is this
00:56:56.200 guy in custody?
00:56:57.240 And I keep hearing all
00:56:58.180 of these different
00:56:59.160 things.
00:57:00.500 And now I'm just
00:57:01.400 going to, I'm going to
00:57:02.040 say this.
00:57:02.560 Is this applicable in
00:57:06.860 this case, specifically
00:57:08.560 applying to issues of
00:57:11.220 anti-Semitism and
00:57:12.420 anti-Jewish speech on
00:57:13.960 campus?
00:57:15.100 Is it going to be
00:57:15.980 applied to other speech
00:57:17.360 on campus that is
00:57:18.580 particularly problematic?
00:57:22.460 And who is going to
00:57:23.540 determine what that
00:57:24.340 problematic speech may
00:57:25.500 be?
00:57:25.740 I bring it up because
00:57:26.540 let's just fast forward,
00:57:28.020 forget about where we
00:57:28.740 are now.
00:57:29.800 Our team, the good
00:57:30.740 guys are in charge, and
00:57:31.880 I know it's like we
00:57:32.800 trust them, right, for
00:57:33.860 the most part.
00:57:35.480 You go to a, if I say
00:57:39.200 AOC administration, you
00:57:40.320 will all just start
00:57:40.860 laughing, so you won't
00:57:41.680 even follow the
00:57:42.220 analogy, but you go to
00:57:43.300 a Gavin Newsom, you're
00:57:46.560 probably still laughing,
00:57:47.340 a Gavin Newsom
00:57:48.000 administration, and
00:57:49.760 somebody on campus
00:57:50.640 wants to say, or is
00:57:53.040 saying things that are
00:57:53.960 highly, highly offensive
00:57:56.300 to Democrats.
00:58:00.320 Are they going to be
00:58:01.280 able to, and they're
00:58:02.340 visiting, right?
00:58:03.060 They're not an
00:58:03.560 American citizen, they
00:58:04.560 do not have full
00:58:05.040 citizenship rights.
00:58:06.640 Are Democrats going to
00:58:07.260 be able to say, you're
00:58:07.920 calling for the
00:58:08.520 extermination of trans
00:58:10.740 people?
00:58:12.100 You're calling for
00:58:12.960 violence against trans
00:58:14.680 people?
00:58:15.280 I know you're going to
00:58:16.160 tell me, oh no, come
00:58:17.280 on.
00:58:18.380 These people think that
00:58:19.200 a man can become a
00:58:19.940 woman.
00:58:20.200 You don't think
00:58:20.500 they're going to make
00:58:20.920 this argument at some
00:58:21.720 point if we start to
00:58:22.800 open this up?
00:58:23.480 Again, there has to be,
00:58:24.980 I just want to know what
00:58:26.320 the clear process is
00:58:27.880 here.
00:58:29.120 Mahmoud Khalil stands
00:58:30.760 for everything, stands
00:58:32.400 against everything that I
00:58:34.000 stand for on the issues
00:58:35.320 that concerns him, or on
00:58:37.640 the reasons, and his
00:58:38.620 anti-Semitism is vile, and
00:58:40.500 the guy shouldn't be in
00:58:41.400 this country.
00:58:42.560 But I just want, and this
00:58:43.620 is where the habeas
00:58:44.400 petition comes in, we
00:58:45.260 need clarity on what is
00:58:47.220 the reason that he's being
00:58:48.780 removed.
00:58:49.260 Because if the executive
00:58:51.320 branch can point to
00:58:52.420 someone and say, well,
00:58:53.240 you're a visitor here, and
00:58:54.660 I just don't like what
00:58:55.920 you're saying, even if in
00:58:58.120 this case it's fully
00:58:59.040 warranted and we totally
00:58:59.800 agree with it, there's a
00:59:01.340 precedent that they can
00:59:02.220 just tell people, oh no,
00:59:03.420 you're not allowed to come
00:59:04.080 here and say that.
00:59:05.340 You're not allowed to come
00:59:06.340 here as a refugee from,
00:59:10.180 say, as a white refugee
00:59:11.160 from South Africa, which is
00:59:12.540 another thing that Trump
00:59:13.260 has been talking about, and
00:59:14.980 talk about the state racism
00:59:17.880 in South Africa against
00:59:19.780 white South Africa.
00:59:20.840 No, no, no.
00:59:21.460 Not allowed.
00:59:22.060 That's creating racial
00:59:24.220 disharmony in this
00:59:25.140 country, and it's a, so
00:59:26.620 you have to, you have to
00:59:27.660 go home, again, in the
00:59:29.040 Gavin Newsom
00:59:29.760 administration.
00:59:30.300 You see what I'm
00:59:30.820 saying?
00:59:31.940 I want clarity on this.
00:59:33.180 I don't, I'm not opposed
00:59:34.540 to it, but I want some of
00:59:35.820 these answers, because we
00:59:37.880 need to be clear about what
00:59:39.140 the standard is, and the
00:59:40.380 standard can't just be a
00:59:42.440 one-off standard on this
00:59:43.580 issue, as awful as the
00:59:45.420 anti-Semitism stuff on
00:59:46.560 campus was, because if it
00:59:48.740 is just speech we really
00:59:50.820 don't like on campus, remember,
00:59:52.380 I wrote my college thesis
00:59:53.380 on speech codes on
00:59:54.380 campus, right?
00:59:54.980 So this is going back for
00:59:56.060 me a long time.
00:59:57.160 I was thinking about this
00:59:57.840 issue over 20 years ago, and
00:59:59.400 researching it, and looking
01:00:01.200 at all the different speech
01:00:02.020 codes of a whole range of
01:00:02.960 different schools, if it's
01:00:04.780 just going to be, you say
01:00:06.100 things that are really
01:00:07.800 heinous and bad, and then
01:00:10.060 they claim that somehow
01:00:11.260 that's inciting violence, and
01:00:13.540 then that's a violation of
01:00:15.600 your student visa, the other
01:00:19.600 side's going to be in power at
01:00:20.720 some point, and I can
01:00:21.520 assure you they will abuse
01:00:23.580 this, which is why the
01:00:24.360 process matters.
01:00:25.840 So I have a little bit of a
01:00:27.200 different take on this, I
01:00:28.060 think, than some other
01:00:28.860 people on the right right
01:00:29.960 now, in so much as I want
01:00:31.960 more, I just want, I want
01:00:34.220 more issues, more answers
01:00:35.700 rather, and more clarity on
01:00:37.880 this one.
01:00:39.100 But yes, if you break the law
01:00:41.100 and your visitor, gone.
01:00:42.440 If you violate statute, your
01:00:44.200 visitor, gone.
01:00:45.740 That is absolutely, but you
01:00:47.800 got to do one of those.
01:00:48.860 Show me the violation of the
01:00:50.060 statute, show me where the
01:00:51.480 law is broken, and show me
01:00:52.900 where the charge has been
01:00:54.320 leveled.
01:00:55.500 It can't just be someone
01:00:56.460 determines it because they
01:00:57.620 say so, right?
01:00:58.480 I would think, unless I guess
01:01:00.060 maybe an immigration judge
01:01:01.260 can just unilaterally decide
01:01:02.720 based on, this is where you
01:01:04.080 have to get very specific in
01:01:05.720 the immigration statute.
01:01:06.560 That may be the case.
01:01:07.880 Executive branch may have
01:01:09.140 full authority to tell this
01:01:10.080 guy that, you know, you go
01:01:11.680 packing, and I'm not opposed
01:01:13.720 to that at all, I'm for
01:01:14.880 that, I just want to know
01:01:16.200 what is he being sent packing
01:01:18.080 for, because saying stupid,
01:01:19.940 heinous things, I need more
01:01:23.160 specificity than that.
01:01:25.060 If it's overthrowing
01:01:25.880 Western civilization is
01:01:27.360 tantamount to overthrowing
01:01:28.320 the United States
01:01:28.820 government, well, let's have
01:01:29.700 this will come out in the
01:01:30.740 habeas petition, by the way,
01:01:31.920 so we will return to this
01:01:33.960 issue, but I wanted to be
01:01:36.040 intellectually honest with you
01:01:37.620 as I work through this one
01:01:39.020 and just see what's really
01:01:41.000 at issue, what's really
01:01:42.460 going on here, because I know
01:01:44.600 right now it's like, oh, our
01:01:45.900 team is in charge, and it's
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