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BONUS POD: The Fraud Epidemic: Trump's DOJ Targets Billions in Stolen Tax Dollars

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00:04:12.180 Good Tuesday morning.
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00:04:17.740 The Trump administration's fraud crackdown is now uncovering another massive scheme.
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00:06:35.080 Story number one.
00:06:36.180 Fraud is something we focus on often on this show, and it seems that we keep finding a lot more of it.
00:06:41.720 This time, even more shocking, and yet again, coming out of, yeah, California.
00:06:46.880 The Justice Department has announced that 12 individuals have now been charged in Southern California.
00:06:53.140 And what they're describing is an alleged home daycare massive fraud scheme involving more than $10 million in taxpayer-funded child care money.
00:07:03.380 And wait until you hear how prosecutors say this actually worked.
00:07:07.480 The money was supposed to help, quote, low-income families pay for child care.
00:07:12.980 Instead, the federal prosecutors now allege that millions of dollars were funneled
00:07:18.560 to bogus or fraudulent daycare operations that were claiming taxpayer money for child care
00:07:24.940 they allegedly were not actually providing.
00:07:28.080 Sound familiar?
00:07:29.100 It's awful close to what we found in Minnesota.
00:07:32.060 Now, this wasn't a tiny investigation either.
00:07:36.420 According to the U.S. Attorney's Office for the Southern District of California, more than 250 federal, state, and local law enforcement personnel participated in the coordinated takedown.
00:07:48.780 They said that all 12 defendants were arrested and authorities executed search warrants at 12 different San Diego area homes that claimed to be operating as child daycare facilities.
00:08:00.360 They were not. They were homes. Now, the details in the federal complaint are extraordinary as
00:08:06.100 well. Prosecutors say the system, well, this is how it worked. The defendants obtained California
00:08:11.640 licenses to operate home child care facilities. They then registered with organizations administering
00:08:18.700 subsidized child care for eligible families. In essence, this is another form of welfare.
00:08:26.000 Now to get paid, daycare providers were required to submit attendance records
00:08:30.060 documenting which children were actually being cared for
00:08:33.620 along with the dates and times that they were there.
00:08:37.100 That's pretty straightforward.
00:08:38.300 You take care of a child, you document it, the government reimburses you
00:08:42.760 and that's how the system works.
00:08:45.620 But prosecutors allege these defendants submitted false attendance records
00:08:49.980 claiming children were receiving daycare when they weren't.
00:08:54.120 And investigators apparently decided to test those claims against reality.
00:08:59.500 They conducted surveillance.
00:09:01.460 One defendant allegedly claimed he cared for 23 children in March of 2026 and 25 children in April.
00:09:10.020 And that he provided child care every single day during those two months.
00:09:15.400 Federal investigators say surveillance covered 57 days during that period.
00:09:19.660 And guess how many days they allegedly saw children entering or leaving the facility?
00:09:26.120 One time. One day out of 57.
00:09:30.780 And here's the remarkable part.
00:09:32.620 According to the federal complaint, that one day happened to be a day a state inspector arrived for an unannounced inspection.
00:09:41.980 Prosecutors say the children and even the daycare operator himself showed up after the inspector arrived.
00:09:49.360 That's what federal prosecutors are alleging.
00:09:52.480 Now, what's crazy is the story gets even, well, more insane from here
00:09:56.440 because investigators compared some daycare attendance claims against border crossing records.
00:10:02.880 One defendant allegedly left the United States around January the 1st of 2024
00:10:07.380 and didn't return until around January the 30th.
00:10:11.700 So that would be 30 days there out of the country.
00:10:13.900 Yet, according to the prosecutors, attendance records were still submitted claiming child care was being provided at the home during January when the person who was supposed to be watching the children was literally out of the country.
00:10:28.240 Now, the government also says eight subsequent direct deposits total nearly $15,000.
00:10:36.620 Federal investigators say each of the 12 defendants received somewhere between approximately $538,000 and $1.2 million over varying periods.
00:10:48.580 Now, several allegedly collected more than $1 million each.
00:10:52.000 altogether prosecutors say more than 10 million intended to help low-income families was diverted
00:10:58.800 through these alleged schemes now the defendants are facing wire fraud charges with some also
00:11:05.280 charged with money laundering these again are all the allegations and of course the defendants are
00:11:11.360 going to say oh no no no we're all innocent now this wasn't the only thing that the trump
00:11:17.020 administration announced this past week the justice department and small business administration
00:11:21.620 also announced the results of a nationwide enforcement surge
00:11:25.420 that was targeting fraud involving pandemic-era government loans.
00:11:30.760 Remember, there was a lot of people taking a lot of cash during the pandemic,
00:11:33.900 and it was a free-for-all to get money.
00:11:36.400 Well, now we know that between June 12th and September 1,
00:11:40.220 prosecutors say enforcement actions involved more than 160 criminal defendants
00:11:46.960 and more than 245 million in intended taxpayer losses roughly 80 defendants were newly charged
00:11:56.080 others are already pleading guilty and there is even some that have already been sentenced
00:12:01.460 now these schemes sound exactly like what we also saw recently in minnesota they're familiar
00:12:08.720 fake businesses bogus payroll numbers false revenue information and then of course identity theft used
00:12:15.680 to obtain taxpayer-backed loans.
00:12:17.780 Now, the Small Business Association says approximately 870,000 borrowers
00:12:23.700 suspected of fraud involving pandemic-era programs are being suspended
00:12:28.220 from eligibility for future federal SBA loans.
00:12:33.400 Officials say that these pandemic-level loan fraud was massive.
00:12:38.620 and they say that the suspensions now are associated with an estimated 39 billion in
00:12:46.640 suspected fraud yeah that would be your tax dollars that disappeared now the sba says that
00:12:52.460 when combined with previous actions borrowers connected to approximately 49 billion in fraud
00:12:59.520 and have now been suspended across all 50 states and you just got to think about those numbers i
00:13:05.560 just gave you we're no longer talking about somebody lying on a form to steal a few thousand
00:13:09.780 dollars we're now talking about fraud investigations reaching into the tens of billions of dollars
00:13:15.480 and the doj by the way isn't limiting this to the pandemic programs they're also saying that
00:13:21.940 health care is another enormous target now the justice department also has announced a health
00:13:27.740 care fraud crackdown involving 450 defendants and they stole allegedly more than 6.5 billion
00:13:37.500 and just this last month prosecutors in massachusetts announced another charge
00:13:42.940 connected to what the doj called operation gold rush that was an enormous health care fraud
00:13:49.100 prosecution that the doj says targeted medicare and other insurers now a foreign national this is
00:13:56.420 just one guy by the way was indicted on a money laundering conspiracy charge connected to a 1.3
00:14:04.400 billion health care fraud scheme prosecutors described the broader organization behind
00:14:09.480 operation gold rush is a foreign base let me say it again a foreign based operation from russia
00:14:17.480 and elsewhere so 1.3 billion of your dollars disappeared to russia and other countries
00:14:23.360 now again this is another example of what donald trump said he was going to do and the government's
00:14:30.040 made it clear that fraud is not victimless and a great example this goes back to our first story
00:14:35.520 when somebody allegedly invents daycare attendance and then takes child care subsidies this isn't
00:14:41.260 just government money it's your money and it's taking away from children and actually need it
00:14:45.320 and when somebody is creating a fake company and they take a fraudulent pandemic loan
00:14:49.900 in the billions and billions of dollars again that's your money and when somebody bills medicare
00:14:56.120 as the government just exposed again for services that were never provided well that money is coming
00:15:01.680 out of the program funded by american taxpayers and by the way there's a lot of american seniors
00:15:06.740 that rely on those programs and that is why donald trump has said every dollar stolen makes
00:15:13.320 legitimate programs more expensive and harder for the taxpayers to sustain them and that is exactly
00:15:20.600 why they highlight the san diego daycare case and why it's so revealing because the federal
00:15:25.940 investigators say they didn't simply look at paperwork and shrug they compared the paperwork
00:15:30.660 with surveillance they checked travel and border records they followed bank deposits they compared
00:15:36.100 what providers told the government with the investigators and what they actually saw happening
00:15:40.460 at those addresses and those alleged discrepancies they led to those 12 arrests and the big takeaway
00:15:47.460 is that the trump administration has made this a formal government-wide priority the justice
00:15:54.120 department established its national fraud enforcement division in april the doj says it
00:15:59.320 works and it supports president trump's task force to eliminate fraud and that's chaired by
00:16:04.340 the vice president jd vance now the message that the trump administration officials are trying to
00:16:09.220 end is that programs that may previously have been easy targets for fraud are now going to face
00:16:15.020 much much more as they described it aggressive scrutiny and there's also a second part of this
00:16:21.420 story and why it matters is well this reason finding fraud is one thing getting the money
00:16:26.580 back is another the sba says it has referred more than 22 billion associated with suspected
00:16:33.660 fraudulent or delinquent pandemic loans to the treasury department for collection and that is
00:16:39.320 an important moment for all of us because this is exactly what we should be demanding that every
00:16:45.600 tax dollar that was stolen be recovered now the real test is cracked down will be prosecutions
00:16:50.980 and then convictions and where the evidence proves guilt well the taxpayers we should be made whole
00:16:57.760 they probably will never be made whole for what they stole but at least it's sending a staggering
00:17:02.860 message that this government's actually looking for daycare schemes looking for medicare schemes
00:17:09.020 looking for all of the different schemes when you've got more than 160 defendants caught up in
00:17:15.620 this recent pandemic loan enforcement surge well that's 245 million in intended losses you've got
00:17:24.120 hundreds of corrupt individuals that have now been charged worth billions in just the home
00:17:29.160 health care fraud schemes and tens of billions of dollars associated with suspected pandemic
00:17:34.160 lending all that together now you understand why our deficit is such a problem and that 10 million
00:17:40.880 in southern california in the daycare case well it may be small compared to some of the other cases
00:17:46.980 but when you can look at taxpayers and say we stopped 10 million in fraud that's a good day for
00:17:52.620 everyone. So yet again, the Trump administration throwing down on fraud on multiple levels at
00:17:59.360 multiple states and multiple categories. And it's pretty clear they're just getting started.
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