00:03:13.820I'm not knocking the idea, but it isn't a 18 agents is for someone who has ever had security is a absolutely insane number.
00:03:26.300And I remember if I recall, maybe we'll talk to Miranda Devine about this tomorrow,
00:03:29.940because she really kind of broke this story on The New York Post.
00:03:34.300But, Buck, it also was the case that I believe that Secret Service was renting a high end mansion next door to him to use as the base to be able to protect Hunter
00:03:46.500when he was living in the sugar daddy's house in Malibu.
00:03:49.380But, yeah, the whole thing is outrageous, man.
00:04:34.560That judge who ordered the planes to turn around with the Trenda Aragua members on it is really digging in and getting crazier and crazier.
00:04:45.160Which which we will make some sense of today.
00:04:53.180Because I think it ties into everything.
00:04:55.080Trump has been on the phone this morning with Vladimir Putin.
00:04:58.700And remember, Clay, last week, the conversation was, oh, it's too early.
00:05:03.820And there's so many conditions and really downplaying that Trump was even likely or was even possible he could get any kind of a breakthrough.
00:05:12.400If this results, if this call results in a ceasefire, and we should know pretty imminently, I think, if at least a ceasefire has been preliminarily agreed to.
00:05:20.380Does the media cover it as a breakthrough or do they cover it as, well, we won't really know?
00:06:01.360Like if you had to predict based on what we saw in the first term when he didn't invade, and whatever you feel about this,
00:06:09.120I do believe that Trump and Putin have a somewhat decent relationship that actually is brought together by the total lie that Russia won Trump the 2016 election.
00:06:26.380And by the way, the United States, I'm curious if you would agree with this, Buck,
00:06:32.180probably spends more money trying to influence foreign elections than any country in the world.
00:06:38.040So the idea that we're going to be grabbing our pearls and falling onto a fainting couch that other countries would in some way seek favor in our own elections
00:06:50.180when we are, I believe, probably the biggest manipulator of international elections of any country in the world.
00:06:58.980But they didn't have any massive impact.
00:07:01.480The whole Russia collusion story was a lie.
00:07:04.980The money that Russia spent on Facebook ads was a pinprick of what was spent like $100,000 of billions of dollars that were spent.
00:08:08.380And, yes, I think that if there is a ceasefire that is agreed to, I think that Putin knows that making Trump look silly is a dangerous thing to do, meaning that there would be real consequences for Russia that he does not want.
00:08:24.400And I think that Putin recognizes that is true now.
00:08:28.840That was not true in the same way, obviously, under Biden when he invaded on Biden's watch and did all this stuff.
00:08:35.700So we are in a better a better situation.
00:08:39.380I think that, you know, there'll be there'll be some negotiating that happens here.
00:08:44.440This is not going to be everyone comes out of this phone call today high fiving and the war is over.
00:08:49.740And, you know, Russian Russian and Ukrainian soldiers are going to be kissing ladies out in the street in jubilation.
00:08:54.460That's not going to happen, unfortunately.
00:08:56.320But I think that you might get to, you know, a couple of points have to be agreed to and then there'll be a ceasefire for 30 days.
00:09:25.740You may see something similar with Russia and Ukraine, but to your your point overall, I think is true, which is you're not going to have Trump say, I think we've got to ceasefire for 30 days.
00:09:37.240And then 10 days into it, Vladimir Putin is pulling pulling some nonsense, you know, firing missiles into Kiev and acting like he can get away with whatever he wants,
00:09:47.880because there will be consequences when Trump is the commander in chief financial, maybe diplomatic, maybe, maybe other stuff.
00:09:55.680But Trump's not going to allow that to go unpunished.
00:09:58.480Yeah, I think you're I think you're right.
00:10:03.460I am genuinely curious how the media will cover it.
00:10:08.120I saw I was reading over the weekend, Buck, I don't know if you saw it.
00:10:11.500They do this gridiron dinner where everybody in the media comes and they and they make their usual jokes.
00:10:18.740And your boy, Governor Westmore of Maryland got up and made all these jokes about Russia and Trump and how Trump is Putin's stooge.
00:10:29.140And everybody was just rolling over laughing.
00:10:31.980And it feels to me such an antiquated joke to be making, but I would almost guarantee for you that whatever the peace agreement or ceasefire is reached between Ukraine and Russia,
00:10:46.360that it will somehow be used as evidence that Trump is the Manchurian candidate for Vladimir Putin.
00:10:54.000And I say that because they don't seem to be able to come up with any other new lines of attack.
00:11:39.780They can't even figure out what their attack angle is on Trump right now.
00:11:44.680Look, there is a it is deep in the recesses of the Democrat mind right now.
00:11:51.220But I really do believe that there is a widespread quiet panic that they will never address and they will never accept.
00:12:01.540But it's in the back of their minds and it's it's saying maybe you were just wrong about this top to bottom.
00:12:07.720Maybe you were just wrong about this guy in every respect and he's actually going to be great for the country and you did everything possible to ruin and destroy him.
00:12:17.920And he just kept on coming and it's going to benefit not just his voters, but America.
00:12:24.040As you know, people, we saw this with covid people would rather look like morons than accept that they were really wrong on something they were very dug in on.
00:12:35.960And you're even seeing some of these people.
00:12:49.440Because remember how long they hit us with that all through your enabling your platforming, you're on the wrong side of history.
00:12:56.120I don't hear wrong side of history arguments really anymore.
00:12:59.260Let's we can just take stock of this for a minute.
00:13:01.160They said and it was a widespread narrative across the entire Democrat Party from the top down, from from Kamala to to who was the guy who was their vice president, Tim Walls, all these people.
00:13:15.000They said he was a fascist and that he was Hitler like that.
00:15:11.240I always love, you know, when we were at Mar-a-Lago with Trump and he insisted that we get milkshakes because Mar-a-Lago made the best milkshake.
00:15:18.240Classic, classic, classic Hitler move.
00:15:28.000You're going to hear the words in our Constitution debated more than ever before in the coming year.
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00:31:43.760Okay, a report on what Trump and Putin spoke about is now out.
00:31:49.900I am reading this from Caroline Levitt, who posted this on social media.
00:31:55.560Today, President Trump and President Putin spoke about the need for peace and a ceasefire in the Ukraine war.
00:32:02.320Both leaders agreed this conflict needs to end with a lasting peace.
00:32:07.320They also stressed the need for improved bilateral relations between the United States and Russia.
00:32:13.600The blood and treasure that both Ukraine and Russia have been spending in this war would be better spent on the needs of their people.
00:32:22.220Conflict should have never started and should have ended long ago with sincere and good faith peace efforts.
00:32:28.820Again, I am reading from the statement.
00:32:30.960The leaders agreed the movement to peace will begin with an energy and infrastructure ceasefire as well as technical negotiations on implementation of a maritime ceasefire in the Black Sea, full ceasefire and permanent peace.
00:32:47.520These negotiations will begin immediately in the Middle East.
00:32:51.840The leaders spoke broadly about the Middle East as a region of potential cooperation to prevent future conflict.
00:32:58.720They further discussed the need to stop proliferation of strategic weapons and will engage with others to ensure the broadest possible application.
00:33:08.600The two leaders shared the view Iran should never be in a position to destroy Israel.
00:33:13.680And the two leaders agreed a future with an improved bilateral relationship between the U.S. and Russia has huge upside,
00:33:21.160including enormous economic deals and geopolitical stability when peace has been achieved.
00:33:28.720That is the statement that was just released on the call between Putin and Trump.
00:33:34.960Cleaning up a little bit earlier, we were talking about when was the last time Biden talked.
00:33:40.420Biden had not spoken to Putin since the invasion of Ukraine.
00:35:12.660They have drones that are flying in at them and blowing people up every day.
00:35:19.300They've got artillery rounds blowing up all around.
00:35:22.100I mean, it's you've got guys that are storming trenches and, you know, machine gunning each other at close range.
00:35:28.400Like, it's horrible stuff that's happening day in and day out over there.
00:35:32.320And bringing this to an end would be such a win.
00:35:37.360And it's very frustrating is even the right word.
00:35:41.220It's it's grotesque when you see these people that are saying, but Trump is just throwing in the towel.
00:35:46.780You what do these people think is going to happen?
00:35:49.900You know, at some point, it feels like the Slava, Ukraine people really just feel like if they if they string this thing out long enough,
00:35:56.480maybe we'll have Americans sent over there to do the fighting for them, which is an absolute red line for you, for me.
00:36:02.180And I know for everybody listening, I mean, that's just completely beyond the pale.
00:36:05.700We should not lose a single American life, a single American finger fighting over who's in control of the eastern portion of Ukraine.
00:36:13.340And in the meantime, there's nothing to be gained in the long run for Ukraine continuing to fight and lose its entire able-bodied male population
00:36:25.000when there's the possibility that you could still have a country that is functioning, a country that is a homeland for the Ukrainian people
00:36:32.860and wouldn't be in the midst of a horrible and bloody war.
00:36:36.400Or like I said, Clay, it used to be that the Democrats were supposedly the peace party.
00:36:40.620They were really the undermine America during time of war party.
00:36:44.720But they would at least go through the motions of pretending that they didn't want, you know,
00:36:49.200don't go after Saddam in the first war.
00:36:51.220Don't go after Saddam in the second war.
00:36:52.700Don't you know, they were the ones that were saying we and maybe they're right about the second one.
00:36:56.940But we shouldn't be fighting these wars, except when it comes to wars like this, where there's some humanitarian interest and no real American interest at stake.
00:37:07.260So I think that if Trump is able to pull this off, it's a huge win all around.
00:37:12.500And again, it brings us back to, yes, Trump out there negotiating to end wars and stop bloodshed, just like Hitler would have done.
00:37:20.640So I would also point out, if we could get a ceasefire, the price of gas would drop immediately in a significant fashion.
00:38:20.360That is also driven up the cost of goods being shipped around the world.
00:38:25.020So while there is a great focus on tariffs and what the impact of the cost of goods could be for tariffs,
00:38:31.600I think in Trump's internal calculation, he is seeing the ending of the wars to the extent that we can keep them ended.
00:38:40.820And I know they've reignited right now in the Middle East.
00:38:44.240But if you could end the war in Ukraine this summer, I think you would see a massive deflationary movement on a variety of the price of goods,
00:39:38.260So if if this is a Reagan moment for Trump on the economy, and I think there are a lot of reasons to believe that that it could be and that it will be.
00:39:47.360The historical analogy here is very favorable, but it might take a year, 18 months, something like that, for things to really get cooking the way they would like them to.
00:39:59.040You cannot fix a problem that others refuse to fix and expect that there's not going to be some discomfort along the way, because why wouldn't they fix it if that wasn't the case?
00:40:53.900But if you're going to war game this out a little bit, let's assume, Clay, that the ceasefire goes forward and it is durable.
00:41:02.680And we go into at every phase of the ceasefire.
00:41:05.660You know, you'll be hearing from Democrats, Putin got too much of what he wanted and he could break the ceasefire at any moment.
00:41:12.540Putin got too much of what he wanted and he could break the ceasefire at any.
00:41:15.940You're going to hear that over and over for months and months and months.
00:41:19.100So that by the time it's clear that this conflict, if this happens, this conflict actually has ceased to be the war, the meat grinder of humanity that it has been.
00:41:30.540They're just hoping to play this out so that nobody even realizes that Trump is what, you know, if you extend this out and complain about it the whole time, it denies him at some level the victory, the political victory, at least to some that he would be winning by ending this thing.
00:41:51.280And they keep doing that until eventually when it's clear, oh, no, Trump actually pulled off something of a diplomatic miracle here.
00:41:57.640People have moved on to other things that I think that's how they play it, because they're never going to say, wow, he's a brilliant statesman.
00:42:04.140And he saved thousands and thousands of lives and had the economy boom because of it.
00:42:10.440It is a really good sign that they are talking.
00:42:14.460I think, again, we read you the readout on the report.
00:42:35.100It's why it's kind of interesting to look at.
00:42:37.480But that is a small favorite that we may have a ceasefire in Ukraine by May 1.
00:42:42.680The other reason the timing matters on this a lot, Buck, and I do think it's worth reinforcing this on a regular basis.
00:42:50.260Typically, as it gets warm in Ukraine, the armies are better able to move and the overall fatality rates increase.
00:42:58.920It's still the midst of winter over there right now, but moving the fighting season, essentially.
00:43:04.200The same thing was true in Afghanistan.
00:43:05.520When the mountain passes melt down and it's easier to move around, you get more fighting, more shooting.
00:43:11.260So hopefully, if there is a ceasefire, they could get a ceasefire in place by the time it starts to warm up there so that we can limit the overall amount of death that might be occurring.
00:43:22.760And again, to your point, yes, very Hitlerian of Trump to try to end the largest war in Europe since World War II.
00:43:32.960It's exactly what Hitler would have done if he had been in a position of prominence in America.
00:43:38.820And obviously, we're ridiculing the absurdity of that.
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00:46:47.960Look, to me, the ball is clearly in Benjamin Netanyahu's court, Buck.
00:46:52.700I mean, Donald Trump is all in for U.S.-Israel relations.
00:46:55.360He's used the rhetoric of give them hell to pay.
00:46:58.580He's made it very clear that he and his cabinet are going to stand shoulder to shoulder with the Israeli government when it comes to diplomacy,
00:47:04.600when it comes to military, when it comes to trying to eradicate the entirety of the Hamas political and military cancer from the Gaza Strip.
00:47:12.160So for some weeks now, Buck, I've been saying the ball is in Netanyahu's court.
00:47:17.480I mean, Bibi has basically lived his entire adult life for moments just like this.
00:47:22.200He has led his entire adult life to wait for the opportunity to go in and do what needs to be done, so to speak, whether it's in Gaza, whether it's in Lebanon and Hezbollah.
00:47:30.920He did that partially last summer, actually, or whether it's really the grand threat of all in the region, which, of course, is is the Islamist regime in Tehran.
00:47:38.540So I'm not surprised that the ceasefire broke.
00:47:41.640Frankly, Hamas only has itself to blame.
00:47:43.580I mean, with a medieval Islamist death cult, they had any number of opportunities to avoid this outcome.
00:47:49.780They completely brought this upon themselves.
00:47:51.900And frankly, this is a necessary thing that has to happen or if there to be any resolution whatsoever in the region.
00:48:40.840That's not entirely what my first guess would have been.
00:48:43.760But look, in my heart of hearts, I would love to see the Arabs there find a permanent home in Jordan or Egypt,
00:48:49.480which seems to be Donald Trump's preferred approach, and for Israel to go ahead and take it over.
00:48:53.540Realistically speaking, I think the most likely way that this ultimately ends is you get some sort of consortium of the more moderate Sunni Arab states,
00:49:01.020the Saudis, Emiratis, Bahrainis, maybe the Egyptians if they're willing to play a ball,
00:49:05.420and they kind of go in there jointly together and try to make sure that Islamism and jihadism will not be the way forward there.
00:49:11.940But that's going to entail some sort of American-Israeli or some sort of joint presence there, even with that,
00:49:18.580because frankly, even these guys, the more moderate forces, I'm not sure just how much we can trust them for the mid to long term.
00:49:25.480Josh, for people who don't know, I was over in Israel in December.
00:49:30.920The amount of immense popularity for Trump in Israel is off the charts.
00:49:34.780In fact, Trump, if Israel had had a vote in the American presidential election, would have won like he did in West Virginia or Wyoming.
00:49:44.220What do you think Israelis believe when they see that Trump is being attacked by Democrats here as Hitler?
00:49:50.540Well, Clay, I'll tell you exactly what Israelis believe, because I happen to be married to one,
00:49:57.140and I happen to have in-laws here in Florida where I live who are them, and I taught them every day.
00:50:03.740The Israeli people are about the Trumpiest people basically in the entire world.
00:50:09.060I'm not sure if there's a single foreign country where Trump has a higher approval rating than the state of Israel,
00:50:13.420for very clear and compelling reasons, which is that Donald Trump is the most pro-Israel,
00:50:17.500frankly, he's the most pro-Jewish president in American history there.
00:50:22.240And, you know, this is something of an issue that I think a lot of people here, even on the right, don't fully understand,
00:50:28.500is how can American Jews vote disproportionately so much for the Democratic Party
00:50:32.760while Israeli Jews are so supportive of the Republican person in this case?
00:51:04.400They're all in for President Trump there, as they should be,
00:51:07.660because Donald Trump is deeply supportive of the state of Israel.
00:51:09.900All right, let's talk about the book, Josh, out today.
00:51:12.100Israel and Civilization, The Fate of the Jewish Nation and the Destiny of the West by Josh Hammer.
00:51:17.240What do people need to know and why should they pick up their copy?
00:51:21.460So, Buck, the book Israel and Civilization, both fortunately and unfortunately, I think, could not possibly be timely.
00:51:27.700I'm a little biased, but I happen to think that it is very timely.
00:51:30.920On the one hand, Buck, you have the woke left, which is obviously a horrific, cancerous actor.
00:51:37.660But there is an increasing portion, even of people on the nominal rights.
00:51:42.620Not a loud portion, but there are some people that are really calling for the U.S. to abandon Israel.
00:51:48.180And frankly, I think deep down in these people's hearts, what they really want to do is ultimately to convince American Christians to just leave the Jewish state and leave the Jewish people behind.
00:51:56.600So I took it upon myself to write this book basically calling for Jews and Christians alike to lock arms and stand shoulder to shoulder like never before and to fall in love with the biblical inheritance again.
00:52:07.580Because it actually is that ecumenical, biblical inheritance that frankly founded this country going back in 1776.
00:52:14.200Thomas Jefferson, Benjamin Franklin, they wanted the National Seal of the United States to be Moses parting the Red Sea.
00:52:20.040Abraham Lincoln, my own favorite figure in American history, described famously Americans as an almost chosen people using that covenantal language from the Hebrew Bible.
00:52:28.460The Liberty Bell in Philadelphia literally has a scriptural quote from the book of Leviticus right on the outside of it there.
00:52:34.620So the book is kind of painstakingly arguing that so much of what we take for granted today when it comes to our law, politics, morals, ethics, and so forth really does go back to scripture and that we cannot abandon that.
00:52:46.400But the book is also relevant, Buck, because I make a very clear MAGA, America first, hard-headed realist case for U.S.-Israel relations and the importance of U.S.-Israel ties.
00:52:57.180You have a lot of people that are screaming, oh, the Israel issue.
00:52:59.920Oh, it's an old neocon, neoconservative issue.
00:53:02.180It's an old Bush administration, Dick Cheney, Don Rumsfeld issue.
00:53:11.740He's the most pro-Israel president in American history there.
00:53:14.420If you want to focus disproportionately on China, which I think America needs to do because, again, I'm a realist who believes in limited resources, the question is how do you secure American interests in the Middle East while allowing you to extricate resources to the Indo-Pacific?
00:53:59.220How optimistic are you about peace in the Middle East?
00:54:04.020Because for thousands of years, obviously, it hasn't happened.
00:54:08.180Are you optimistic that in the lifetime of the people that are listening to us right now, we could have some form of peace in the Middle East?
00:54:16.280I think that there is such a thing as a more tranquil region, as a more peaceful region that is less prone to violent eruptions of jihadism.
00:54:25.900Frankly, Clay, that's ultimately going to take – it's going to have to take the Iranian regime to go because the Iranian regime currently is the head of the snake.
00:54:33.500They are the source of virtually all of the violent jihad that goes across the Middle East.
00:54:38.160Now, to be clear, I'm not saying that America needs to go and start toppling the Ayatollah.
00:54:43.780But some way or another, whether it comes from sanctions or the Mike Pompeo-esque maximum pressure campaign, that regime is going to have to go.
00:54:52.440So at some point, God willing, in a post-Islamic republic Iran there where jihad is on the decline, then, yes, I think the Middle East could be a lot more stable than it is today.
00:55:02.440Hezbollah, the Houthis, Hamas, all these forces would be subdued if not made completely extinct without their major benefactor in Tehran.
00:55:09.360On the other hand, you still do have the issue of Islam, and there are very real questions I think are worth asking and exploring as to the extent to which Islam will ever itself, even any more moderate form, ever be comfortable fully with a Jewish state there in the heart of the Middle East.
00:55:27.100And I don't really fully know the answer to that, but I do think that after Iran goes, and God willing, it'll be at some point, again, not that the U.S. has to topple them, but at some point, that regime is going to have to go.
00:55:37.220At some point, Clay, after that, I think things will definitely be better, if not fully solved.
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