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00:00:38.960 We have now a lot of stress being put on us from the media

00:00:46.980 about, oh my gosh, the tariffs and what's going on here.

00:00:49.560 First of all, here's a reminder from our buddy Stephen Miller,

00:00:53.700 who's the Deputy White House Chief of Staff,

00:00:55.960 that what's going on right now is not a typical presidency.

00:00:59.980 It is fixing and setting right big parts of what this country,

00:01:05.720 America, is all about, not just for this week or this month,

00:01:09.540 but for future years and even generations to come.

00:01:13.200 Play nine.

00:01:13.800 This is the great healing and rejuvenation of the American economy

00:01:18.500 after half a century of rampant offshoring, outsourcing,

00:01:22.880 and deindustrialization.

00:01:24.560 There was once a time in which Motor City in Michigan,

00:01:28.540 Detroit automakers powered the entire globe.

00:01:31.380 There was once a time when you could drive through Pennsylvania

00:01:33.580 and all you would see were humming steel mills,

00:01:36.540 humming coal plants, manufacturing facilities,

00:01:39.660 again, that were supplying the entire world,

00:01:42.160 supplying Americans and all of planet Earth.

00:01:44.740 Foreign countries, countries like China,

00:01:47.160 Canada, Mexico, Cambodia,

00:01:48.760 Vietnam, and the European Union took advantage of our country and our leaders.

00:01:54.620 So we know that the tariffs are a major focus with the economy right now

00:01:59.920 from the Trump administration,

00:02:01.960 and there's going to be, here you go,

00:02:05.360 Trump's Liberation Day tariffs will go into effect immediately,

00:02:09.860 according to the White House just eight minutes ago, Clay.

00:02:12.600 President Donald Trump's promised tariffs are a day away,

00:02:15.460 and they'll go into effect sooner than some had expected,

00:02:18.600 as in immediately, according to the White House.

00:02:21.500 Liberation Day trade policy announcement is expected to be

00:02:23.960 the most aggressive tariff move yet by President Trump,

00:02:28.360 and he has vowed to slap tariffs on U.S. imports

00:02:31.700 for a whole range of different solutions.

00:02:36.040 Now, Clay, they're saying this is going to be costly.

00:02:38.840 They're saying this is going to create a lot of economic dislocation.

00:02:42.260 And to be fair, even here's Senator Tuberville,

00:02:45.300 who is a big Trump guy, big Trump supporter.

00:02:49.560 We've had him on the show many times,

00:02:51.620 and he is the one to whom I'm supposed to say war eagle.

00:02:56.220 That is correct.

00:02:57.100 And by the way,

00:02:57.900 probably celebrating over the weekend

00:03:00.440 as the Auburn Tigers rolled into the Final Four

00:03:03.560 for their second time ever,

00:03:04.920 playing against your wife's alma mater,

00:03:07.360 the Florida Gators, on Saturday.

00:03:08.900 Big game.

00:03:09.340 My beloved Florida Gators,

00:03:11.420 because they are my wife's beloved.

00:03:12.920 So whatever the Florida Gators,

00:03:14.420 whatever I can do for them, I love doing.

00:03:16.900 But here we go.

00:03:17.840 Here's Senator Tuberville on the tariff situation.

00:03:21.140 You say, look, it's not going to be without a little bit of,

00:03:24.360 a little bit of pain before we get to the gain.

00:03:27.380 Play it.

00:03:27.920 This is one thing that President Trump has got to sell,

00:03:30.500 but it's also going to work,

00:03:31.960 but it's going to be a slow pain first before we get the gain.

00:03:35.360 We have to get jobs back in this country.

00:03:37.980 We have to get manufacturing to come back.

00:03:39.800 We can't control that as a Senate.

00:03:41.600 The one thing that we can control, as you said,

00:03:43.700 we can control the tax cuts.

00:03:45.660 We have to get those done,

00:03:47.020 and we have to get it done this week.

00:03:48.640 We'll let President Trump do the tariffs.

00:03:50.320 We do the tax cuts.

00:03:51.580 Get the debt limit put in with this reconciliation.

00:03:54.620 Fund the border wall.

00:03:55.860 Fund all the immigration processes going on.

00:03:58.700 We have to get back to business up here.

00:04:00.760 We've been dragging our feet,

00:04:01.920 but I think with the tariffs this week

00:04:03.800 and also the budget reconciliation

00:04:05.560 that we'll do for the tax cuts,

00:04:07.420 I think it's all going to come together.

00:04:09.540 So, Clay, I think at some level,

00:04:11.400 what we're seeing here is Trump is right on the,

00:04:13.820 has been and continues to be right on the immigration issue,

00:04:17.060 has proven the case.

00:04:18.560 The numbers speak for themselves.

00:04:20.200 The border is the most secure.

00:04:21.660 It has been in truly decades.

00:04:23.800 A lot of interior enforcement still has to happen.

00:04:25.740 We can get into some of those numbers.

00:04:28.040 DHS, Kristi Noem, talking about that.

00:04:30.280 We can get into that in a little bit.

00:04:31.920 But on the economic side of things,

00:04:33.740 what Doge is doing is important,

00:04:35.740 but the tariff issue might even have more short-term political impact.

00:04:42.720 If things get rough between now and really next summer,

00:04:47.640 all right, or not this coming summer,

00:04:49.460 it would be the following summer before the midterms, right?

00:04:52.580 So really you've got 15 months or so.

00:04:55.760 If this starts to look like it's blowing up in Trump's face,

00:04:58.740 even if the media is able to make that case,

00:05:00.640 and that's not a fair assessment of it,

00:05:02.560 the problem here is what happens if the midterms go against the Republicans

00:05:06.000 because of the tariffs?

00:05:07.540 It slows the whole agenda down.

00:05:08.880 So it feels like it's a gamble,

00:05:10.860 but it's one that Trump is all in on.

00:05:12.740 Yeah, and I don't know about you,

00:05:14.720 but economic geniuses have gotten so much wrong.

00:05:21.460 My trust level in experts is at an all-time low personally

00:05:27.220 because everything they have told us for the past several years,

00:05:31.860 it feels like the experts are batting zero

00:05:35.020 on pretty much every major issue that has occurred.

00:05:38.960 Now, until tomorrow, we won't know exactly what Trump has planned,

00:05:44.840 but I do think it's significant that Israel just announced

00:05:51.100 that they were ending all tariffs on American goods in the last few hours.

00:05:56.300 What is your – let me ask you this

00:05:57.920 because I think we've talked about this a little bit, but I haven't –

00:06:01.340 I ask this question, I ask this honestly.

00:06:03.560 If tariffs are so self-evidently self-defeating,

00:06:09.720 why do so many countries have tariffs against the United States

00:06:15.080 on different issues?

00:06:16.140 Why does Canada have a 200% dairy tariff for U.S. dairy imports

00:06:21.620 if it's so stupid and it does nothing good for them?

00:06:24.820 And that's just one of hundreds that we could talk about here.

00:06:27.920 Never mind China and the policies that they have vis-a-vis the rest of the world.

00:06:31.640 I think where Trump is right is we have a lot less to lose on tariffs

00:06:36.720 than other countries do.

00:06:38.580 And what I mean by that is this is what happens

00:06:41.460 when you are a net importer of goods,

00:06:44.200 when we have the massive trade deficit that we do.

00:06:47.360 Now, the arguments out there, for those of you that are paying attention,

00:06:52.200 the economic gurus of the world who are opposed to tariffs would say,

00:06:59.060 well, yes, the United States is a net importer of goods.

00:07:03.440 That is, we spend more money than we make off of our products.

00:07:08.380 But the result is that our products that we purchase are incredibly affordable.

00:07:14.100 And I would just use as an example, Buck, I'm sure you remember this back in the day.

00:07:19.320 One of the most expensive things I bought when Laura and I first got married

00:07:23.520 was a flat screen television.

00:07:25.320 Do you remember when flat screen televisions were like $5,000, $6,000?

00:07:29.960 They were really expensive.

00:07:31.160 I remember pooling money with my college roommates to get for our common room.

00:07:36.160 Yes.

00:07:36.620 Because we all lived in the shared housing to get for our common room.

00:07:40.960 And we carried it.

00:07:41.880 It was like when they find the Ark of the Covenant in Raiders of the Lost Ark.

00:07:45.980 We carried that thing with reverence up the stairs.

00:07:49.060 Yes, that flat screen television.

00:07:50.740 Many of you out there are going to remember when you were able to first buy one.

00:07:56.020 Speaking of Costco, which your wife Carrie loves,

00:07:59.020 and one of the few places I go in.

00:08:00.860 We're working on the wokeness over there.

00:08:02.800 One of the few places that I actually walk into,

00:08:05.400 you can get a 70-inch flat screen television for like $700 now.

00:08:10.780 Now, these things are manufactured almost entirely outside the United States.

00:08:15.220 The reason why I use flat screen television as an example is

00:08:17.960 that is something where you would say the average American consumer

00:08:22.460 is getting a really good deal because flat screen televisions

00:08:25.960 can be made more affordably elsewhere.

00:08:28.540 I mean, almost everybody, I'm holding mine up for video,

00:08:31.460 almost everybody has an iPhone now.

00:08:33.620 iPhones are almost exclusively manufactured in China and the Philippines, I think, now.

00:08:39.160 Now, they're starting.

00:08:40.060 Apple has said we're going to invest more money in them.

00:08:42.600 But the reason why Apple has the profit margins it does

00:08:45.600 is because of the manufacture there.

00:08:48.660 Sneakers, all sorts of products, okay?

00:08:50.920 Yeah, they used to make them all at Foxconn,

00:08:52.560 where they had to put up nets to prevent people from jumping out and committing suicide

00:08:55.740 because of the hours they were working.

00:08:57.180 So, rough stuff.

00:08:57.980 Well, this is also why I got so fired up over the Nike product,

00:09:04.980 you know, the NBA player saying,

00:09:06.700 oh, America's an awful place,

00:09:09.360 and our people are being taken advantage of.

00:09:12.640 And then they never mention that their tennis shoes are being made,

00:09:15.460 basically, oftentimes for slave labor overseas,

00:09:18.140 and they make hundreds of millions of dollars off of those deals.

00:09:22.120 The most ridiculous of them actually had deals with Chinese sneaker companies, Buck,

00:09:27.720 that bragged about the fact that they used slave labor in Xinjiang province,

00:09:32.960 cotton produced there.

00:09:34.980 So, the modern-day NBA star athlete with a Chinese sneaker deal,

00:09:39.240 and there were many of them,

00:09:40.640 was actually making money off slave labor.

00:09:43.240 And meanwhile, they're lecturing all of us about how America is an awful country

00:09:47.140 and taking these during the National Anthem.

00:09:49.260 The hypocrisy was too much.

00:09:50.580 So, the argument is, okay, yes, we are net, our money is leaving the country,

00:09:56.360 but we're getting better value than we would if that was produced here.

00:09:59.440 I don't know that that is 100% true.

00:10:04.400 In other words, what would it look like?

00:10:06.200 I've made this argument for a long time.

00:10:07.840 LeBron James.

00:10:08.920 What if LeBron James had said,

00:10:10.400 hey, I'm asking all these people to pay $200 for sneakers?

00:10:13.600 What if he had gone to Nike and said,

00:10:16.060 I want my sneakers produced in Akron, Ohio,

00:10:19.480 an industrial Midwest city that is struggling,

00:10:22.820 and I understand the profit margins will be lower,

00:10:26.200 but we'll be able to employ a lot of Americans to make my shoes.

00:10:30.600 That would have actually been a really interesting argument.

00:10:33.100 Of course, LeBron's never going to say it,

00:10:34.600 because all he cares about the money that he's making,

00:10:36.560 not about the larger society.

00:10:38.000 But my point on this is some guys that have the economic power to relocate,

00:10:44.580 to resource actual goods here and create American jobs that are high paying,

00:10:49.140 that people who otherwise wouldn't get them deserve them.

00:10:52.640 This is the argument that Trump's making.

00:10:54.620 He basically is doing the anti-LeBron.

00:10:56.740 He's saying we should be making goods that Americans buy here,

00:11:00.320 and we're going to level the playing field to help make that happen.

00:11:03.240 This is one of the areas where Trump is going the most against the consensus,

00:11:09.460 even on the Republican side.

00:11:12.720 Longstanding Republican institutions, think tanks, GOP apparatus, you name it,

00:11:19.540 free trade has been almost a religious mantra on the right

00:11:24.660 for as long as you and I have been alive,

00:11:26.300 and really going back to Milton Friedman,

00:11:28.360 and free trade has been a thing that you just say,

00:11:32.740 and everyone has to assume it's the best possible way.

00:11:37.560 Now, theoretically, I can see why,

00:11:39.880 and when I hear the arguments about this, I go,

00:11:41.600 yeah, of course, it seems like everybody benefits, you know,

00:11:45.500 when you have a free trade system.

00:11:48.200 The challenge, though, is we don't have free trade globally.

00:11:50.300 That's right.

00:11:51.540 And this is when Trump came in with China on the first term.

00:11:54.380 They said he's going to start a trade war,

00:11:55.720 and the people who really knew what was going on,

00:11:58.140 specifically with China, said,

00:11:59.400 we're already in a trade war with China.

00:12:01.240 We're just not doing anything.

00:12:02.540 And Biden didn't change anything.

00:12:04.520 But that's exactly the point, that he won on that one, right?

00:12:07.680 Yes.

00:12:07.780 That he went against the consensus,

00:12:09.080 so much so that even Biden's like,

00:12:10.560 look, I'm not going to mess with this stuff.

00:12:12.700 So is this another one of those moments?

00:12:14.740 And I bring this to the,

00:12:17.200 it's really, to me,

00:12:18.020 it's more almost a question of logic or common sense.

00:12:20.840 If this is so bad and self-defeating,

00:12:23.000 which you are hearing,

00:12:23.720 not just from Democrats who hate Trump,

00:12:25.360 forget about them, we don't care.

00:12:26.380 They don't know anything about the economy.

00:12:27.580 They want to ruin Western civilization.

00:12:29.680 A lot of Republicans are saying,

00:12:31.240 ah, I don't know about this.

00:12:32.440 Ah, it's going to be rough for the markets.

00:12:33.660 They're telling you to kind of brace for impact.

00:12:35.220 Okay.

00:12:36.180 But if there aren't any benefits to this,

00:12:37.840 why do other countries do them?

00:12:39.360 Same way that I, Clay,

00:12:40.240 I always knew that they're lying,

00:12:41.260 the media was lying to us about illegal immigration

00:12:43.000 because you could never get somebody in the media

00:12:45.340 to admit that illegal immigration had a downside.

00:12:48.880 Well, if it has no downside,

00:12:50.160 why do we want to stop it, right?

00:12:51.200 Yes.

00:12:51.520 It makes no sense.

00:12:52.340 Same thing I feel like with tariffs.

00:12:53.460 If tariffs are only downside,

00:12:55.640 why are other people doing it?

00:12:56.900 I mean, other countries doing it for decades

00:12:58.980 and very aggressive about it.

00:13:00.620 So I think it's about things that you want

00:13:04.020 and things that you can get.

00:13:05.440 And there's a negotiation to be had here.

00:13:08.060 I also think,

00:13:09.180 and we'll know more tomorrow afternoon,

00:13:11.240 four o'clock Eastern,

00:13:12.280 this is scheduled.

00:13:13.620 Markets really hate uncertainty.

00:13:15.940 Whatever you think

00:13:17.320 of any particular economic decision,

00:13:20.520 as soon as business can understand

00:13:23.540 what the cost structure is going to be

00:13:25.540 and adjust accordingly,

00:13:27.240 oftentimes we see the markets adjust.

00:13:31.580 And to me, Buck,

00:13:32.940 part of the biggest challenge here in general

00:13:35.200 has been,

00:13:36.420 we don't really know what the implementation

00:13:38.380 of these policies going to look like.

00:13:40.100 Come tomorrow afternoon,

00:13:41.560 in theory,

00:13:42.160 we will have an idea of exactly

00:13:43.820 what Trump trade policy looks like.

00:13:45.660 And if you watch the stock market

00:13:47.620 on a regular basis,

00:13:49.380 typically when the stock market moves

00:13:51.200 is when something hasn't been priced.

00:13:54.040 There is a surprise.

00:13:55.680 There is an uncertainty.

00:13:57.420 There is an expectation that is upset

00:13:59.420 relative to the existing marketplace.

00:14:01.800 I would say in general,

00:14:03.460 this is what I've said for a long time,

00:14:05.220 buy S&P 500 index funds.

00:14:07.500 Don't overreact to any day-to-day

00:14:10.020 market manipulation or movement.

00:14:12.020 And if you believe that the future of America

00:14:14.940 is bright,

00:14:15.780 and I do,

00:14:16.780 every 10 years or so,

00:14:18.140 your index fund should double.

00:14:19.900 And most of the time,

00:14:21.240 people get in trouble

00:14:22.220 when they respond emotionally

00:14:24.020 to stock market prices.

00:14:25.280 You look at prices going down,

00:14:26.780 people sell.

00:14:27.940 You look at prices going up,

00:14:29.420 people think they're always going to go up.

00:14:31.640 Most people are emotional,

00:14:33.680 not as much rational,

00:14:35.140 which is why the best thing to do

00:14:36.940 with your 401ks

00:14:38.020 is not pay that much attention to it

00:14:40.140 on a day-to-day basis.

00:14:41.080 I get that it's hard,

00:14:42.560 but that is my best advice.

00:14:45.760 And tomorrow at 4 o'clock,

00:14:47.500 I'm sure we'll be talking about this

00:14:49.040 on Thursday's show.

00:14:50.720 Hey, what do we expect

00:14:52.120 the actual impact is going to be,

00:14:53.620 and what will the stock market do?

00:14:55.340 We'll get that first kind of read

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00:16:46.180 Two different races

00:16:47.380 in the state of Florida.

00:16:48.740 I'm down in Miami

00:16:50.100 with Buck right now

00:16:51.400 from his studio

00:16:52.540 up in the northern part

00:16:55.040 of Florida.

00:16:55.800 Florida won.

00:16:56.700 In the Panhandle.

00:16:58.080 Also Daytona

00:16:59.740 and St. Augustine area.

00:17:01.520 Florida 6.

00:17:02.560 Jimmy Petronas

00:17:04.020 joins us now.

00:17:05.440 The next congressman,

00:17:06.560 if you guys keep showing up

00:17:07.580 and voting like you are,

00:17:08.900 in the Florida 1st District.

00:17:11.240 Jimmy,

00:17:11.620 good to talk with you.

00:17:12.920 Appreciate you coming on.

00:17:14.260 What can you tell us

00:17:15.160 about what you're seeing

00:17:16.080 in Florida 1?

00:17:17.260 And if people are listening,

00:17:19.080 both in your district

00:17:20.200 and in the 6th District

00:17:22.200 to Florida,

00:17:23.320 what is the importance

00:17:24.220 of getting out

00:17:24.900 and voting here?

00:17:26.520 Yeah, so we're,

00:17:27.800 I'd say it's a beautiful day

00:17:29.080 for getting out to vote.

00:17:30.400 So there's no weather

00:17:31.180 that's going to slow

00:17:31.900 anybody down.

00:17:33.440 It's 77 degrees

00:17:35.720 here in the Panhandle.

00:17:36.780 So, so grateful

00:17:38.320 for everybody

00:17:38.860 that has showed up

00:17:39.880 and voted early.

00:17:41.300 But today's the last day

00:17:42.740 to let your vote count.

00:17:44.780 And the Republicans

00:17:46.000 have been out

00:17:46.660 tracking the Democrats.

00:17:49.000 So we feel good,

00:17:50.660 but you can't take

00:17:51.600 anything for granted.

00:17:52.560 I tell people all the time,

00:17:53.720 if you don't hold

00:17:54.540 your electives accountable,

00:17:55.640 you get the government

00:17:56.440 you deserve.

00:17:57.280 And, you know,

00:17:58.480 just really,

00:17:59.020 it's an honor

00:17:59.600 to be on the air

00:18:00.260 with y'all.

00:18:01.340 Hey, Jimmy,

00:18:01.760 we appreciate you

00:18:02.660 and we hope you run

00:18:04.180 with the scoreboard

00:18:04.940 in a big way.

00:18:06.540 Who are they even,

00:18:07.440 who are they even

00:18:08.400 running against you there?

00:18:09.560 I mean, you know,

00:18:10.000 I know we all feel

00:18:10.660 pretty good about it.

00:18:11.440 Clay consistently refers

00:18:13.680 to the Panhandle

00:18:14.520 as God's country,

00:18:15.480 although he doesn't want

00:18:16.340 more people buying

00:18:17.380 beachfront

00:18:19.180 on the Gulf of America.

00:18:20.260 There's not any left,

00:18:21.280 Buck.

00:18:21.400 He says it's getting

00:18:22.260 very crowded.

00:18:23.560 But who are they

00:18:24.480 running against you

00:18:25.300 in God's country,

00:18:26.140 so to speak?

00:18:26.800 What do we need to know

00:18:27.520 about this Democrat

00:18:28.360 that they're throwing

00:18:29.120 into the mix?

00:18:31.360 Yeah, so

00:18:32.060 the same woman

00:18:33.300 who ran against

00:18:34.080 Matt Gaetz

00:18:34.760 last time in November,

00:18:36.380 her name's Gabe Alamont.

00:18:38.060 And, look,

00:18:39.220 I'm sure she's

00:18:41.340 a fine person,

00:18:42.160 but her policies

00:18:43.500 are flawed.

00:18:44.620 You know,

00:18:45.500 what she is advocating for,

00:18:47.840 she's trying to run

00:18:48.880 as a moderate.

00:18:50.240 And, look,

00:18:51.180 she's got $7 million.

00:18:53.140 And I'm looking forward

00:18:54.180 to tonight at about 7.30,

00:18:55.920 you know,

00:18:56.120 looking into the camera

00:18:57.220 and acknowledging

00:18:58.500 that there's

00:18:59.320 about $7 million

00:19:00.520 reasons why

00:19:01.600 their effort

00:19:03.420 is not the right

00:19:05.000 message for

00:19:05.620 Northwest Florida.

00:19:07.200 The amount of money

00:19:08.000 that we've been outspent,

00:19:09.040 probably five to one.

00:19:10.720 But the Democrats

00:19:11.740 are seeing

00:19:12.440 six and one

00:19:14.640 as a way

00:19:15.440 to flip

00:19:16.740 the balance

00:19:18.460 of power

00:19:18.860 in Congress

00:19:19.380 and try to do

00:19:19.880 a referendum

00:19:20.360 on Trump.

00:19:21.360 But, you know,

00:19:21.720 the people in

00:19:22.380 these two districts

00:19:23.200 are just too educated.

00:19:24.200 For people

00:19:25.420 who don't know,

00:19:26.620 what is

00:19:27.920 Florida 1?

00:19:29.000 Where is it located?

00:19:30.220 I just want to make sure

00:19:31.040 because there's lots

00:19:31.660 of people driving around.

00:19:32.820 You know as well

00:19:33.500 as anybody,

00:19:34.180 people get fired up

00:19:35.100 for November elections,

00:19:36.220 but a lot of times

00:19:37.040 these special elections,

00:19:38.080 we've been talking

00:19:38.600 about the two in Florida,

00:19:40.340 the one in Wisconsin

00:19:41.380 that's going today,

00:19:42.220 they can slip

00:19:42.920 under the radar.

00:19:44.540 Where right now

00:19:45.580 in Florida 1

00:19:46.680 can people go vote

00:19:47.820 for you?

00:19:48.280 Sometimes,

00:19:48.780 you know this,

00:19:49.500 people don't even know

00:19:50.660 exactly what

00:19:51.360 congressional district

00:19:52.540 they're in.

00:19:53.240 I'll put myself

00:19:54.440 on blast here.

00:19:55.420 When they redid,

00:19:56.640 they redrew the lines

00:19:57.860 in Tennessee

00:19:58.740 where I live.

00:20:00.140 The difference

00:20:01.080 between one congressman

00:20:02.320 and another

00:20:02.760 came into my neighborhood.

00:20:04.280 One street's represented

00:20:05.300 by one congressman,

00:20:06.420 the other is another one.

00:20:07.880 I didn't know.

00:20:08.740 I didn't know

00:20:09.500 who was my congressman

00:20:10.680 until I actually went in

00:20:12.020 and had the opportunity

00:20:13.480 to vote.

00:20:14.020 So, just for people

00:20:15.500 who may not know,

00:20:17.040 where in Florida 1

00:20:18.240 can people go vote today?

00:20:19.500 Where do they need

00:20:19.960 to show up?

00:20:21.320 Yeah, so Florida 1

00:20:22.560 goes from Pensacola

00:20:24.640 and the Alabama state line

00:20:26.380 over between

00:20:27.220 Pensacola and Mobile

00:20:27.980 and it goes all the way

00:20:29.580 to the edge

00:20:30.220 of Panama City.

00:20:31.620 So, it stops

00:20:32.200 at Highway 331.

00:20:33.720 So, that's

00:20:34.160 Ascambia, Santa Rosa,

00:20:36.060 Okaloosa,

00:20:36.940 and parts of

00:20:37.760 Walton County.

00:20:39.240 You can go to

00:20:40.180 joinjimmy.com

00:20:41.260 at the top of the page.

00:20:42.640 There's a link.

00:20:43.540 You tap it

00:20:44.180 and it says

00:20:44.860 where do I vote?

00:20:45.700 Where's my precinct?

00:20:46.820 And then we will go through

00:20:47.980 and direct you

00:20:48.680 to where you can vote.

00:20:50.280 So, it's, again,

00:20:51.920 today's the day

00:20:52.920 that you would actually

00:20:53.980 go to your regular precinct

00:20:55.780 that you would vote on

00:20:57.160 in a November election

00:20:58.340 and you were spot on.

00:20:59.960 People are,

00:21:00.880 everything's got

00:21:01.620 seasons to it

00:21:02.640 and the seasons

00:21:03.680 for elections

00:21:04.400 are in November.

00:21:05.320 People know to vote

00:21:06.240 in November.

00:21:06.880 They don't know

00:21:07.320 to vote in April.

00:21:08.340 Oh, by the way,

00:21:09.140 it's April Fool's Day.

00:21:10.700 Yeah, no kidding.

00:21:11.560 And Trump won

00:21:12.260 your district

00:21:13.060 I think by 37

00:21:14.480 or 38 points.

00:21:15.980 So, that sounds good,

00:21:17.280 by the way,

00:21:17.660 people honking

00:21:18.200 in the background.

00:21:19.440 If you're listening

00:21:20.160 to Clay and Buck...

00:21:20.960 We just passed

00:21:21.140 by one of the preceps.

00:21:23.400 That's a good problem.

00:21:24.340 If you're listening

00:21:24.780 to Clay and Buck

00:21:25.540 in Florida one right now

00:21:26.820 and you see the congressman

00:21:27.880 driving by,

00:21:28.460 the next congressman,

00:21:29.260 you can honk at him

00:21:29.940 and let us know

00:21:30.640 that you got his back.

00:21:32.120 But this is a

00:21:33.280 dyed, rocked,

00:21:34.560 ribbed Trump district.

00:21:36.580 But it's important

00:21:37.520 for everybody to get out.

00:21:38.660 Don't just rely

00:21:39.580 on the fact.

00:21:40.400 Again, it's April Fool's.

00:21:41.580 A lot of people

00:21:41.960 may not be aware

00:21:42.820 that this is going on.

00:21:44.600 Yeah, and again,

00:21:46.040 with the amount of money

00:21:47.100 that they've spent

00:21:48.020 running as a moderate,

00:21:50.200 destroying and trying

00:21:51.780 to trash my reputation,

00:21:53.520 I was born and raised

00:21:54.640 in the central time zone.

00:21:55.800 I've been part

00:21:56.760 of this community

00:21:57.760 the whole time.

00:21:58.200 Matter of fact,

00:21:58.820 Clay, I think you and I

00:22:00.440 shared the same studio

00:22:01.520 at one time.

00:22:02.220 I used to be on the radio

00:22:03.780 there in Panama City

00:22:05.140 for a while

00:22:05.840 and I think y'all

00:22:06.540 used to come in

00:22:07.140 and do the show.

00:22:08.140 Jimmy, that's a story

00:22:09.460 I've shared with Buck

00:22:10.440 when I did early morning

00:22:11.940 sports talk radio

00:22:13.000 in that Panama City studio.

00:22:14.400 Love the guys there.

00:22:16.080 But I was on at 5 a.m. there

00:22:18.180 and sometimes,

00:22:19.880 this won't shock you,

00:22:20.840 there weren't people there

00:22:21.820 to let me in the building.

00:22:23.000 So I have started

00:22:23.960 my show before

00:22:25.020 from the parking lot

00:22:26.360 of that Panama City,

00:22:27.380 Florida studio.

00:22:28.220 It's a great signal.

00:22:29.800 We love all of you

00:22:30.880 down on the Gulf Coast

00:22:31.920 that are listening right now.

00:22:33.520 But it's not far

00:22:35.180 to the Eastern time zone

00:22:36.420 and so sometimes

00:22:37.300 people would get

00:22:38.120 all crossed up

00:22:39.060 as to what time

00:22:39.940 things started.

00:22:41.700 And yeah,

00:22:42.020 my boy DJ K-Dub

00:22:43.580 who was in charge

00:22:44.920 of letting me in

00:22:45.680 back in the day,

00:22:46.380 Buck,

00:22:46.720 was sometimes late.

00:22:47.880 But yeah, Jimmy,

00:22:48.280 that's a fabulous station.

00:22:50.340 I know there's a lot

00:22:50.860 of people listening

00:22:51.440 to us right now

00:22:52.500 as you're driving there

00:22:53.800 on Highway 98

00:22:54.880 headed, I think,

00:22:55.980 to Pensacola.

00:22:57.460 Yep, yep.

00:22:58.220 And I tell you,

00:22:58.880 it's just,

00:22:59.420 radio is so amazing.

00:23:01.460 It's intimate.

00:23:02.900 You know,

00:23:03.240 people get,

00:23:03.880 they become your family.

00:23:05.200 You know,

00:23:05.600 and that's what I love

00:23:06.400 about what y'all are doing.

00:23:07.420 I mean,

00:23:07.800 you're connecting

00:23:08.700 with folks

00:23:09.560 and they really,

00:23:11.520 they feel like

00:23:12.060 they know you

00:23:12.780 and know everything

00:23:13.440 about you

00:23:14.000 because they spend

00:23:15.000 so much time

00:23:15.920 and you build

00:23:16.680 their day out.

00:23:17.540 So I mean,

00:23:17.900 this is such

00:23:19.540 an amazing way

00:23:20.440 to get news out,

00:23:21.660 to communicate

00:23:22.200 and to make people

00:23:23.520 informed.

00:23:24.700 Totally,

00:23:25.340 totally right,

00:23:26.220 Jimmy.

00:23:26.720 And we're talking

00:23:27.140 to Jimmy Petronis.

00:23:27.860 He's running

00:23:28.240 for that important

00:23:29.600 congressional seat,

00:23:30.540 the first in Florida,

00:23:32.380 a beautiful part

00:23:33.240 of the country

00:23:33.740 up in the panhandle.

00:23:35.160 We've got that.

00:23:35.540 We've also got

00:23:35.940 the sixth congressional seat

00:23:37.620 formerly held

00:23:38.340 by Michael Waltz.

00:23:39.700 It is in the mix

00:23:40.580 with Randy Fine today.

00:23:42.060 Make sure we have

00:23:42.880 a huge Florida audience.

00:23:44.600 Make sure,

00:23:45.320 for those of you

00:23:45.840 who live in those districts,

00:23:46.720 you get out and vote.

00:23:48.040 Gotta run up

00:23:48.980 the scoreboard high

00:23:50.200 because otherwise

00:23:50.840 you're going to be reading

00:23:51.540 in the New York Times

00:23:52.280 front page tomorrow,

00:23:53.740 oh,

00:23:54.060 Trump agenda's stalling.

00:23:55.600 They,

00:23:55.780 you know,

00:23:55.980 they went from 30 points

00:23:57.160 to 25 points winning,

00:23:58.820 you know.

00:23:59.080 So,

00:23:59.640 gotta run up

00:24:00.180 those scoreboards.

00:24:01.120 And to that end,

00:24:01.960 Jimmy,

00:24:02.820 first of all,

00:24:03.340 I totally agree

00:24:03.740 with what you said

00:24:04.120 about radio.

00:24:04.800 Clay and I always joke

00:24:05.480 about how when people

00:24:06.280 know you from the radio show,

00:24:07.920 they just come up

00:24:08.480 and talk to you

00:24:08.960 because they're your friends.

00:24:10.060 There's no like,

00:24:10.980 oh,

00:24:11.360 there's no trepidation

00:24:12.840 or is it okay

00:24:13.720 or am I in or anything?

00:24:14.840 They come up to me

00:24:15.800 and they're like,

00:24:16.100 how's Ginger?

00:24:16.700 How's Carrie?

00:24:17.380 And I love it.

00:24:18.140 I mean,

00:24:18.280 those are our radio people

00:24:19.340 and same thing with Clay.

00:24:20.420 They know his wife

00:24:21.080 and his kids' names.

00:24:22.460 But tell me about

00:24:23.660 what you want to get

00:24:24.660 at the top of the agenda

00:24:26.780 working with fellow members

00:24:28.600 of Congress

00:24:29.060 on the Republican side

00:24:30.120 for the Trump agenda

00:24:30.940 once you are seated.

00:24:32.660 Sure.

00:24:33.440 So,

00:24:33.840 Northwest Florida

00:24:34.540 in the 1st Congressional District

00:24:35.780 has got five military installations.

00:24:38.380 So,

00:24:38.640 not only is the military economy

00:24:40.580 important to Northwest Florida,

00:24:42.340 there's so many vital missions

00:24:44.080 to our national security.

00:24:45.620 But because

00:24:46.220 of the military presence

00:24:48.160 and how beautiful

00:24:49.320 this place is,

00:24:50.380 we've got the largest

00:24:51.480 per capita

00:24:52.920 retired veterans population

00:24:54.580 anywhere in the nation.

00:24:55.420 So,

00:24:56.280 you know,

00:24:56.560 those VA services

00:24:57.480 are critically important.

00:24:59.200 At the same time,

00:25:00.400 making sure that

00:25:01.200 the missions continue

00:25:02.260 to be enhanced

00:25:03.000 in Northwest Florida.

00:25:04.080 We've got a welcome mat

00:25:05.720 in front of every one

00:25:06.920 of our households here

00:25:07.900 because we love our military.

00:25:09.980 So,

00:25:10.260 you know,

00:25:10.600 I'm really,

00:25:11.360 I'm looking at hustling

00:25:12.560 to make sure

00:25:13.160 that we continue

00:25:14.360 to support them,

00:25:15.500 especially those

00:25:16.440 that are needing

00:25:16.980 extra assistance

00:25:18.120 and guidance

00:25:18.660 with the VA.

00:25:19.680 You know what I tell people,

00:25:20.860 Jimmy's not a show horse,

00:25:22.060 Jimmy's a workhorse.

00:25:23.120 I look forward to helping,

00:25:24.280 you know,

00:25:24.580 break through

00:25:25.260 the bureaucracy,

00:25:26.140 helping people

00:25:26.680 get their questions answered.

00:25:29.240 Pete Huggsup,

00:25:29.940 a good buddy,

00:25:30.860 so proud of what he's doing

00:25:32.140 to bring the image

00:25:33.260 of the warfighter

00:25:34.140 back in a way

00:25:34.980 where men and women

00:25:36.220 are proud to serve

00:25:37.040 our country.

00:25:38.040 So,

00:25:38.240 yeah,

00:25:39.020 this is,

00:25:39.840 I'm pinching me.

00:25:41.160 I really can't believe

00:25:42.400 it's real.

00:25:43.560 Jimmy,

00:25:44.040 you've been fighting

00:25:44.540 for the state of Florida

00:25:45.560 for a long time.

00:25:46.740 Buck is one of the new residents

00:25:48.220 of the state of Florida.

00:25:50.100 What is the impact?

00:25:51.120 I mean,

00:25:51.440 I think it's an awesome

00:25:52.780 kind of test case

00:25:53.740 for what good governance

00:25:55.000 can do.

00:25:55.860 The number of people

00:25:56.820 that are saying,

00:25:57.640 hey,

00:25:57.960 I'm going to move

00:25:58.640 to a state like Florida.

00:26:00.000 What have the numbers

00:26:00.620 looked like over the last

00:26:01.680 five or six years?

00:26:03.400 Yeah,

00:26:03.680 so we're in the best

00:26:04.940 fiscal health

00:26:06.120 we've ever been

00:26:06.900 in the history

00:26:07.420 of the state of Florida.

00:26:08.680 And so,

00:26:09.440 look,

00:26:09.640 I've been the CFO

00:26:10.520 for the last eight years.

00:26:11.740 I'm proud how much debt

00:26:13.120 we've paid down.

00:26:14.200 But here's the twisted

00:26:15.160 thing about it.

00:26:16.420 Even in the jacked up

00:26:18.320 Biden administration

00:26:19.580 where we had

00:26:20.380 double digit inflation,

00:26:22.980 what people don't realize

00:26:24.400 in Florida,

00:26:26.020 the state of Florida

00:26:26.720 made more money

00:26:27.800 than ever before

00:26:28.900 because if things cost more

00:26:30.560 and we're only

00:26:31.400 a sales tax environment,

00:26:33.060 y'all know that

00:26:33.680 because now you're not

00:26:34.660 paying income tax

00:26:35.660 from wherever you once

00:26:36.580 were living.

00:26:37.320 We made more money

00:26:38.640 as a state,

00:26:39.300 so we aggressively

00:26:40.400 paid down debt

00:26:42.360 at a breakneck speed.

00:26:44.740 We have also created

00:26:46.000 a culture.

00:26:46.540 I'll tell people

00:26:47.000 it's not a sprint,

00:26:48.300 it's a mark.

00:26:48.720 You've got to work

00:26:49.300 on it every day.

00:26:50.500 We have 400,000

00:26:51.760 new net Floridians

00:26:52.940 come to the state

00:26:54.040 of Florida

00:26:54.440 and we've got

00:26:55.340 1.3 million more

00:26:56.880 registered Republicans

00:26:57.880 than Democrats.

00:26:59.020 The trend we're going

00:27:00.600 is to give people

00:27:01.900 their personal freedom

00:27:02.840 and keep their tax money.

00:27:04.960 All right.

00:27:05.820 Get out and vote for him,

00:27:07.020 Jimmy Patronis.

00:27:07.780 Jimmy,

00:27:08.020 I'll see you down

00:27:08.700 on the beach here

00:27:09.680 in the near future.

00:27:10.560 I'm going to spend

00:27:10.940 a bunch of time

00:27:11.520 down there this spring

00:27:12.840 and summer,

00:27:13.300 so keep up

00:27:14.200 the good work

00:27:14.700 and look forward

00:27:15.180 to you doing

00:27:15.540 a fantastic job

00:27:16.540 for everybody

00:27:16.920 on the panhandle.

00:27:18.440 Thanks, guys.

00:27:19.280 God bless you.

00:27:19.960 Thanks for having me.

00:27:21.400 For sure.

00:27:21.980 That's Jimmy Patronis again.

00:27:23.260 We want to keep

00:27:23.760 echoing it.

00:27:24.480 Randy Fine,

00:27:25.240 Florida 6,

00:27:26.040 Jimmy Patronis,

00:27:26.860 Florida 1,

00:27:27.680 and get out

00:27:28.560 and vote for Brad Schimmel

00:27:30.300 in the entire state

00:27:31.640 of Wisconsin.

00:27:32.520 Three different storylines

00:27:34.900 going on right now

00:27:35.820 that will be covered

00:27:36.540 as Buck mentioned

00:27:37.340 to a great degree

00:27:38.480 as an early test

00:27:40.460 of the momentum

00:27:41.240 for Trump

00:27:42.000 some 75 days-ish

00:27:43.700 into his second term.

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00:27:56.840 as time's gone on.

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00:29:06.500 Patriots,

00:29:07.760 radio hosts,

00:29:09.080 a couple of regular guys.

00:29:11.080 Clay Travis

00:29:11.840 and Buck Sexton.

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00:29:18.300 Welcome back

00:29:18.880 into Clay and Buck.

00:29:20.160 A couple things

00:29:20.740 to take a quick look at here.

00:29:21.960 One is

00:29:22.700 the reductions

00:29:24.060 in the federal workforce

00:29:25.600 just as of

00:29:26.940 April 1st

00:29:28.760 is in the New York Times,

00:29:29.620 so I'm assuming

00:29:29.920 this is not April Fool's.

00:29:31.640 There are impending

00:29:33.140 layoffs of 10,000

00:29:34.640 CDC

00:29:36.020 and other

00:29:38.040 federal health workers.

00:29:41.400 Confirmed cuts

00:29:42.300 according to

00:29:42.760 the New York Times here

00:29:43.660 at least

00:29:44.720 49,000

00:29:46.380 so far.

00:29:48.040 Many of these employees

00:29:49.260 though have been

00:29:49.780 temporarily reinstated

00:29:51.340 after court orders

00:29:52.760 have come down

00:29:53.320 as we've discussed

00:29:54.040 after the hashtag

00:29:54.920 resistance judges.

00:29:56.140 Employees who took

00:29:58.260 buyouts

00:29:58.800 75,000.

00:30:01.100 I can't do the math

00:30:02.180 on that

00:30:02.580 but what is that

00:30:03.440 as a percentage

00:30:04.960 of the overall

00:30:05.720 where there's about

00:30:06.340 2 million

00:30:06.800 federal employees

00:30:08.460 so you know

00:30:09.860 you're looking at

00:30:10.840 what

00:30:11.280 they think

00:30:12.800 it might get up

00:30:13.260 to 5%

00:30:13.980 maybe it'll get up

00:30:14.760 to 5%

00:30:15.480 we'll see

00:30:15.940 and then

00:30:16.960 planned reductions

00:30:18.260 at least

00:30:18.640 171,000.

00:30:20.520 There's a lot

00:30:21.520 of efficiency

00:30:22.980 stuff that is

00:30:23.880 going on

00:30:24.500 right now.

00:30:25.720 USAID

00:30:26.280 basically gutted

00:30:27.400 and gone

00:30:27.820 more than 99%

00:30:28.940 Voice of America

00:30:29.980 gutted and gone

00:30:30.840 more than 99%

00:30:32.100 Education

00:30:33.240 Department of Education

00:30:34.000 46% down

00:30:35.180 and then HHS

00:30:36.160 Energy

00:30:36.680 IRS

00:30:37.280 CFPB

00:30:38.900 all down

00:30:39.960 in the teens

00:30:40.740 you know

00:30:41.220 the numbers are

00:30:41.940 12, 13, 16

00:30:43.180 around there

00:30:43.840 so

00:30:45.020 this is

00:30:46.360 they think

00:30:46.800 it could affect

00:30:47.620 a total clay

00:30:48.320 of 12%

00:30:49.080 of the 2.4

00:30:50.280 million

00:30:51.080 civilian

00:30:51.560 federal workers

00:30:52.840 so that's

00:30:53.240 the total

00:30:53.520 affected

00:30:53.980 maybe

00:30:54.340 the buyouts

00:30:55.380 could be

00:30:56.060 5-10%

00:30:57.460 they thought

00:30:57.900 maybe more

00:30:58.380 like 5%

00:30:59.160 but I think

00:31:00.960 you have

00:31:01.260 a particular

00:31:02.220 perspective here

00:31:03.000 the Secret Service

00:31:03.920 which had

00:31:05.740 a very bad

00:31:06.420 year in 2024

00:31:07.260 let's just be

00:31:08.240 frank about that

00:31:09.000 a very bad

00:31:09.640 year for this

00:31:10.040 I mean it could

00:31:10.420 have been worse

00:31:11.040 God forbid

00:31:11.700 but it was

00:31:12.260 pretty bad

00:31:12.780 as it was

00:31:13.340 you were at

00:31:14.840 the golf course

00:31:15.820 tell everybody

00:31:16.620 where the second

00:31:17.620 assassination

00:31:18.180 attempt

00:31:19.000 against

00:31:20.040 Trump

00:31:20.540 occurred

00:31:21.480 and what

00:31:22.440 did you learn

00:31:22.900 from seeing

00:31:23.540 that environment

00:31:25.060 yourself up close

00:31:26.140 so first of all

00:31:27.180 I encourage you guys

00:31:28.400 go donate

00:31:29.040 Tunnel to Towers

00:31:29.940 T2T.org

00:31:31.160 the reason I was

00:31:32.220 there playing

00:31:32.760 was Frank Siller

00:31:33.640 the work that they do

00:31:34.920 the last time I played

00:31:36.400 with them was New York

00:31:37.400 they're now doing

00:31:38.280 a major fundraiser

00:31:39.420 down in Florida

00:31:40.220 and they're going to do

00:31:40.980 it multiple years

00:31:41.980 at Trump International

00:31:43.020 Golf Course

00:31:43.720 so if you are

00:31:44.820 in Florida

00:31:45.480 and you would be

00:31:46.900 interested in playing

00:31:47.880 in that event

00:31:48.500 which I hope I'll be

00:31:49.220 able to do next year

00:31:50.180 with them as well

00:31:50.920 they raise millions

00:31:52.120 of dollars at these

00:31:53.080 events and they go

00:31:54.860 to help people

00:31:56.020 who were either

00:31:57.280 killed or

00:31:57.940 catastrophically wounded

00:31:59.140 military

00:32:00.020 first responders

00:32:01.020 you guys know

00:32:02.100 their work

00:32:02.980 95% of every dollar

00:32:04.520 goes to help

00:32:05.220 those in need

00:32:06.000 they do phenomenal

00:32:07.040 work so that's

00:32:07.800 where I was

00:32:08.380 that's why I was

00:32:09.140 playing there

00:32:09.760 I had not been

00:32:11.220 to this Trump

00:32:11.860 International course

00:32:12.960 in West Palm Beach

00:32:13.920 before

00:32:14.320 I'm an awful

00:32:15.080 golfer

00:32:15.560 I love playing

00:32:16.420 golf

00:32:16.740 I don't get

00:32:17.120 to do it

00:32:17.480 very often

00:32:18.100 but as we're

00:32:20.960 going around

00:32:21.620 the course

00:32:22.160 yesterday

00:32:22.760 and thank you

00:32:23.820 for holding

00:32:24.160 down the fort

00:32:24.780 on the show

00:32:25.580 I got to see

00:32:27.300 and my caddy

00:32:28.700 was there

00:32:29.400 explaining to me

00:32:30.880 exactly the

00:32:32.220 locations of

00:32:33.420 this would-be

00:32:34.200 second assassin

00:32:35.140 and having seen

00:32:37.520 it on the ground

00:32:38.820 now for myself

00:32:40.120 it is

00:32:41.780 unbelievable to me

00:32:43.680 that we have not

00:32:44.360 gotten more details

00:32:45.460 about this

00:32:46.160 because

00:32:47.160 this guy was

00:32:48.580 going to come

00:32:49.560 insanely close

00:32:51.180 to Trump

00:32:51.800 at an area

00:32:53.200 where you

00:32:53.900 could not miss

00:32:55.200 and what

00:32:56.420 I was told

00:32:57.560 by people

00:32:58.060 who were there

00:32:58.640 was that it was

00:32:59.240 the glinting

00:33:00.020 of the sunlight

00:33:01.080 off of the barrel

00:33:02.200 of his gun

00:33:03.020 that made him

00:33:04.560 noticeable

00:33:05.400 Trump was only

00:33:07.020 one hole away

00:33:08.260 from this guy

00:33:10.660 being able

00:33:11.360 to murder

00:33:12.080 Trump

00:33:12.840 right after

00:33:14.180 the July 13

00:33:15.640 terrorist

00:33:16.280 had come

00:33:16.980 within

00:33:17.660 would-be assassin

00:33:18.500 had come

00:33:19.020 within

00:33:19.480 a quarter

00:33:20.440 of an inch

00:33:20.960 of killing

00:33:21.700 Trump

00:33:22.000 on live

00:33:22.380 television

00:33:22.780 at that

00:33:23.140 Butler

00:33:23.340 Pennsylvania

00:33:23.840 rally

00:33:24.300 fuck

00:33:25.160 this area

00:33:27.600 the fact

00:33:28.920 that it was

00:33:29.360 not swept

00:33:30.340 the fact

00:33:31.320 that the

00:33:31.720 secret service

00:33:32.620 didn't have

00:33:33.380 people

00:33:33.820 in those

00:33:35.160 bush lines

00:33:36.120 the fact

00:33:37.460 that they

00:33:37.760 allowed this

00:33:38.440 guy to

00:33:38.920 get there

00:33:39.520 at dawn

00:33:40.840 and be

00:33:41.880 there for

00:33:42.400 hours

00:33:43.080 and have

00:33:44.020 Trump

00:33:44.360 one hole

00:33:45.100 away from

00:33:45.780 him walking

00:33:46.500 up and being

00:33:47.400 killed right

00:33:48.120 there

00:33:48.480 is indefensible

00:33:49.920 and we have

00:33:51.480 not gotten

00:33:52.060 I don't think

00:33:52.660 the full story

00:33:53.500 on either

00:33:54.080 of these

00:33:54.580 would-be

00:33:55.000 killers

00:33:55.460 this guy

00:33:57.600 after Butler

00:33:59.180 Pennsylvania

00:33:59.740 I would argue

00:34:01.500 it's even

00:34:02.480 more indefensible

00:34:03.960 than what

00:34:04.960 happened at

00:34:05.600 Butler

00:34:05.980 because it

00:34:06.580 wasn't like

00:34:07.220 the guy

00:34:07.720 was on

00:34:08.320 the roof

00:34:08.820 of that

00:34:09.340 building

00:34:10.200 in Butler

00:34:10.740 for eight

00:34:11.640 hours in

00:34:12.440 advance

00:34:12.880 I can't

00:34:14.500 believe that

00:34:15.080 this happened

00:34:15.640 I totally

00:34:17.000 see what you

00:34:17.760 mean about

00:34:18.060 the second

00:34:18.440 one

00:34:18.600 the first

00:34:18.980 one

00:34:19.340 I do

00:34:20.000 think

00:34:20.380 the very

00:34:21.660 first place

00:34:22.300 that anybody

00:34:22.780 would have

00:34:23.160 wanted to

00:34:23.640 clear would

00:34:24.040 have been

00:34:24.300 the roof

00:34:24.640 where the

00:34:24.860 guy set

00:34:25.300 up

00:34:25.500 this is

00:34:25.960 what I'm

00:34:26.280 saying

00:34:26.580 about this

00:34:27.180 if you

00:34:27.760 went to

00:34:28.100 that golf

00:34:28.520 course

00:34:28.800 with me

00:34:29.160 Buck

00:34:29.420 you would

00:34:30.500 look at

00:34:30.820 this

00:34:31.080 and you

00:34:31.640 would say

00:34:32.160 how in

00:34:33.160 the world

00:34:33.640 do they

00:34:34.020 not have

00:34:34.480 this parking

00:34:35.100 lot managed

00:34:36.820 like have

00:34:37.820 agents walking

00:34:39.120 along inside

00:34:40.480 of this bush

00:34:41.120 line the

00:34:42.280 fact that they

00:34:42.900 allowed this

00:34:43.400 to happen it

00:34:44.180 feels intentional

00:34:44.960 to me it

00:34:46.320 feels like there

00:34:47.460 was first of all

00:34:48.200 some sort of

00:34:48.780 inside knowledge

00:34:49.760 that this guy

00:34:50.440 knew that

00:34:51.540 Trump was

00:34:52.120 likely to be

00:34:52.900 playing that

00:34:53.620 course on

00:34:54.320 this day but

00:34:55.900 of all the

00:34:56.780 places that you

00:34:58.240 would be on

00:34:59.020 this course this

00:34:59.780 is really the

00:35:00.580 only place you

00:35:01.480 need to secure

00:35:02.160 so really

00:35:02.580 what you're

00:35:02.860 saying is

00:35:03.540 there were

00:35:04.100 two

00:35:04.380 assassination

00:35:04.920 attempts

00:35:05.560 against

00:35:05.940 Trump

00:35:06.320 that both

00:35:07.340 relied on

00:35:08.360 the most

00:35:09.700 obvious

00:35:10.260 possible

00:35:10.960 platform

00:35:12.120 for the

00:35:12.940 shooter

00:35:13.420 positioning

00:35:14.380 for the

00:35:14.940 shooter

00:35:15.280 of all

00:35:16.440 yes

00:35:16.820 I don't

00:35:18.320 know

00:35:18.480 I mean

00:35:18.720 this is

00:35:19.040 we haven't

00:35:19.640 talked about

00:35:20.140 I mean

00:35:20.620 I'm saying

00:35:21.320 the collective

00:35:21.860 media as a

00:35:22.760 whole

00:35:23.060 for this to

00:35:24.440 happen after

00:35:25.300 the failures

00:35:26.100 of Butler

00:35:26.680 Buck

00:35:27.480 we're talking

00:35:28.040 it's one

00:35:28.600 thing Butler

00:35:29.200 you know

00:35:29.900 it comes out

00:35:30.520 of nowhere

00:35:30.920 and I'm

00:35:32.020 with you

00:35:32.480 it was

00:35:33.060 utterly

00:35:33.440 indefensible

00:35:34.140 but the

00:35:34.780 most

00:35:35.260 predictable

00:35:36.420 places

00:35:37.140 that you

00:35:38.480 would expect

00:35:39.120 someone to

00:35:39.720 try to kill

00:35:40.320 the president

00:35:40.940 were unsecured

00:35:42.100 after Butler

00:35:43.600 they let it

00:35:44.760 happen again

00:35:45.500 and we still

00:35:47.200 don't know

00:35:47.780 anything about

00:35:48.640 these guys

00:35:49.260 right I mean

00:35:50.700 compare what we

00:35:51.640 know about

00:35:52.020 these guys to

00:35:52.740 the average

00:35:53.360 mass shooter

00:35:54.160 who they have

00:35:55.080 front page

00:35:55.720 articles about

00:35:56.600 we know

00:35:57.260 everything about

00:35:58.260 them and

00:35:59.520 when I

00:36:00.280 when I

00:36:00.660 played this

00:36:01.140 course

00:36:01.420 yesterday

00:36:01.900 it just

00:36:03.440 I stood

00:36:04.040 there and

00:36:04.520 I looked

00:36:05.020 at that

00:36:05.400 bush line

00:36:06.120 and I

00:36:07.040 said how

00:36:08.360 is it

00:36:09.380 possible

00:36:10.000 that they

00:36:10.900 let a guy

00:36:11.460 sit there

00:36:12.060 all day

00:36:12.820 and nobody

00:36:14.760 was securing

00:36:15.480 that area

00:36:16.160 again the

00:36:17.160 course is not

00:36:18.160 particularly

00:36:18.780 complicated to

00:36:19.860 secure

00:36:20.280 again I

00:36:21.640 don't like to

00:36:22.240 take us

00:36:22.600 into a

00:36:23.260 really dark

00:36:25.320 and macabre

00:36:27.560 direction

00:36:28.400 but imagine

00:36:30.460 the feeling

00:36:31.620 in the

00:36:31.940 country

00:36:32.380 if after

00:36:33.960 that first

00:36:34.580 assassination

00:36:35.100 attempt

00:36:35.820 a second

00:36:37.220 assassin

00:36:37.740 just as

00:36:39.220 blatant

00:36:40.680 and honestly

00:36:41.920 tactically

00:36:42.840 lacking in

00:36:44.320 proficiency

00:36:45.420 was successful

00:36:47.340 even just in

00:36:48.060 wounding Trump

00:36:48.860 a second time

00:36:49.700 never mind

00:36:50.380 god forbid

00:36:50.900 something else

00:36:51.420 could have

00:36:51.620 happened

00:36:51.900 who would

00:36:53.000 have believed

00:36:53.640 that that was

00:36:54.300 just grotesque

00:36:55.800 incompetence

00:36:56.380 twice over

00:36:57.040 by a

00:36:58.280 multi-billion

00:36:59.460 dollar federal

00:37:00.180 agency that's

00:37:00.940 supposed to be

00:37:01.500 able to protect

00:37:02.000 the president

00:37:02.500 of the united

00:37:02.960 states

00:37:03.480 buck he got

00:37:04.720 away to

00:37:05.700 it he got

00:37:08.140 into a car

00:37:09.120 and drove

00:37:10.180 away and the

00:37:11.480 only reason we

00:37:12.480 caught him

00:37:13.200 like 50 minutes

00:37:15.360 down the road

00:37:16.360 was because a

00:37:17.300 woman in the

00:37:17.880 parking lot

00:37:18.680 saw him

00:37:19.740 fleeing and

00:37:21.020 wrote down his

00:37:21.940 license plate in

00:37:22.860 other words if

00:37:24.460 this guy had been

00:37:25.300 able to get

00:37:25.820 shots on Trump

00:37:26.640 which he nearly

00:37:27.280 did he might

00:37:28.740 have been able

00:37:29.120 to get away

00:37:29.860 so it's not

00:37:31.860 even I think

00:37:33.600 at a minimum

00:37:34.100 most people

00:37:34.700 think well if

00:37:35.400 you get a shot

00:37:35.860 at the president

00:37:36.420 you're giving

00:37:36.960 up your life

00:37:37.700 this guy got

00:37:38.800 away and the

00:37:39.460 only reason we

00:37:40.280 knew who he

00:37:40.820 was was because

00:37:42.140 a random woman

00:37:43.060 thanked the

00:37:43.500 ward she was

00:37:44.140 there took

00:37:45.140 down the

00:37:45.560 license plate

00:37:46.260 and again I

00:37:47.440 understand people

00:37:48.500 say well he's

00:37:49.280 okay now he's

00:37:50.160 been elected

00:37:50.600 president I

00:37:51.220 understand that

00:37:51.860 that that is

00:37:52.760 thank the ward

00:37:53.840 happened but I

00:37:55.520 don't think we

00:37:55.940 can let July and

00:37:57.100 August and what

00:37:58.280 nearly happened

00:37:59.320 just vanish and

00:38:01.400 not be having a

00:38:02.980 bigger question

00:38:03.860 about who knew

00:38:05.020 what how did

00:38:06.300 these guys end

00:38:07.220 up in the

00:38:07.640 position that they

00:38:08.400 did and are we

00:38:10.000 just supposed to

00:38:10.840 expect and and

00:38:12.340 and and believe

00:38:13.620 that these were

00:38:14.640 totally lone wolf

00:38:15.980 would-be assassins

00:38:17.180 it just feels

00:38:18.360 unlikely to me

00:38:19.120 didn't uh didn't

00:38:20.140 the secret service

00:38:20.700 also fire a

00:38:22.260 bunch of someone

00:38:22.960 fired a bunch of

00:38:23.700 rounds at him

00:38:24.260 from pretty close

00:38:25.500 and didn't hit

00:38:26.040 and didn't hit

00:38:26.560 him right yes

00:38:27.120 and he got away

00:38:29.920 again he got into

00:38:30.740 his car drove off

00:38:31.920 my understanding

00:38:33.160 was it was I

00:38:34.700 should check and

00:38:35.580 see but it was a

00:38:36.240 number of rounds

00:38:37.160 from a pretty close

00:38:38.220 distance that's why

00:38:39.600 I bring up that the

00:38:40.320 guy was able to get

00:38:40.880 away so you can

00:38:42.200 you can set up a

00:38:44.280 sniper position

00:38:45.140 against the

00:38:45.840 president and

00:38:46.840 secret service

00:38:47.460 doesn't figure it

00:38:48.120 out until you

00:38:49.020 almost were able to

00:38:49.580 get the shots off

00:38:50.200 again the second

00:38:50.720 time never mind

00:38:51.260 the first time

00:38:51.760 when he did get a

00:38:52.300 shot off and hit

00:38:52.800 the president in

00:38:53.340 the ear which is

00:38:53.920 still something I

00:38:54.620 feel like our

00:38:55.540 national psyche is

00:38:56.820 processing you know

00:38:58.360 how close we came

00:39:00.160 as a country to the

00:39:02.180 abyss I don't even

00:39:03.800 like to think about

00:39:04.980 it or go there

00:39:05.680 because heaven

00:39:07.500 forbid it just you

00:39:08.800 know God was on

00:39:09.580 Trump's shoulder that

00:39:10.460 day and we got

00:39:12.140 lucky as a nation I

00:39:13.420 don't care what

00:39:13.880 somebody thinks about

00:39:14.680 Trump we got lucky

00:39:15.740 as a nation because

00:39:17.140 that didn't you know

00:39:18.420 the worst didn't

00:39:19.040 happen that's right

00:39:20.200 but that the

00:39:20.960 secret service I

00:39:23.180 don't know what

00:39:24.180 needs to be done

00:39:24.860 to to fix it so

00:39:27.160 that their

00:39:28.100 procedures are more

00:39:28.960 of you know it's a

00:39:29.540 I think it's a

00:39:30.040 three billion dollar

00:39:30.980 a year agency and

00:39:33.000 they really have one

00:39:34.320 job I know they

00:39:35.100 protect a bunch of

00:39:35.860 people but you

00:39:37.480 know the hundred

00:39:37.840 Biden protection

00:39:38.680 detail is different

00:39:40.040 than the Trump

00:39:40.560 protection detail I

00:39:41.720 think we all

00:39:42.100 understand that right

00:39:43.080 and they had one

00:39:45.080 job and they almost

00:39:45.740 couldn't do that

00:39:46.380 it's pretty pretty

00:39:47.900 terrifying when you

00:39:48.700 think about the

00:39:49.200 incompetent you know

00:39:49.920 we talk about the

00:39:50.560 incompetence at US

00:39:51.400 USAID and these

00:39:52.580 other places secret

00:39:54.160 service got incredibly

00:39:56.420 lucky in 2024 that

00:39:58.240 the worst didn't

00:39:59.000 happen Trump would be

00:39:59.840 dead if they had had

00:40:01.180 a truly competent

00:40:02.760 trained assassin oh

00:40:03.940 definitely trying to

00:40:04.660 kill him at either of

00:40:05.360 those times yeah yeah

00:40:06.780 he would be dead and

00:40:08.060 the fact that we

00:40:08.800 allowed that to happen

00:40:09.700 in July and we

00:40:10.540 allowed it to happen

00:40:11.360 again in August to

00:40:13.200 me is utterly

00:40:14.780 indefensible and

00:40:15.760 again being on the

00:40:16.960 ground and seeing

00:40:17.980 that if all of you

00:40:20.420 walked that golf

00:40:21.420 course with me and

00:40:22.860 you said okay where

00:40:23.960 is the most dangerous

00:40:24.980 place that's going to

00:40:26.240 be on this golf

00:40:27.360 course we would all

00:40:29.120 flag that exact

00:40:30.220 location and the

00:40:31.820 fact that the secret

00:40:32.500 service allowed that

00:40:33.480 guy to be there all

00:40:34.760 day for hours it's not

00:40:36.780 like he pulled up 10

00:40:37.740 minutes beforehand he

00:40:38.760 was there since dawn

00:40:40.020 and came within a few

00:40:42.100 hundred yards of the

00:40:43.660 president being right in

00:40:44.700 front of him and it

00:40:45.480 being almost impossible

00:40:46.540 for him to miss I

00:40:49.040 just it's not talked

00:40:50.500 about enough and it

00:40:51.260 makes me nervous

00:40:52.040 because it makes me

00:40:53.800 worry about Trump

00:40:55.260 safety going forward

00:40:56.580 even though he's now

00:40:57.540 the president and even

00:40:58.540 though he now has a

00:40:59.620 better protective detail

00:41:00.840 if they failed that

00:41:02.020 bad twice why would

00:41:03.980 they not fail that bad

00:41:04.820 a third time well I

00:41:06.060 think Trump is putting

00:41:06.960 some of the people in

00:41:09.840 positions now you would

00:41:10.780 hope you would hope I

00:41:12.420 but I think I think he

00:41:13.380 is I mean you see you

00:41:14.920 know cash at FBI Dan

00:41:16.320 Bongino former secret

00:41:17.500 service as deputy FBI

00:41:19.060 director I know that's

00:41:20.260 not secret service but

00:41:21.240 these guys understand

00:41:22.940 what's at play here and

00:41:24.900 are going to fix it I

00:41:25.940 think so but yeah it is

00:41:28.160 it is incredibly important

00:41:29.480 that these issues are

00:41:31.140 addressed from the whole

00:41:33.200 gamut of a bloated

00:41:35.500 federal government way

00:41:36.900 too many people doing

00:41:37.580 nothing to the parts of

00:41:38.960 the federal government

00:41:39.580 that we need to be good

00:41:40.820 and need to be perfect

00:41:41.840 secretary heads at that

00:41:43.100 at at the DOD for

00:41:44.720 example this is this is

00:41:45.980 his mission the parts of

00:41:48.000 our government that have

00:41:48.680 to be absolutely a game

00:41:49.880 need to be a game it

00:41:50.920 cannot be and secret

00:41:52.060 service DOD these places

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00:44:27.320 right off the top echoing what we

00:44:30.780 have told you many times during the

00:44:32.800 course of today's program it is an

00:44:35.640 election day for many of you in

00:44:37.900 florida and in wisconsin and i know

00:44:40.480 it can sneak up on you and you think

00:44:42.280 hey it was just six months ago in the

00:44:44.960 first district of florida go vote in

00:44:47.200 our opinion for jimmy patronus who is

00:44:49.600 going to do an amazing job representing

00:44:51.220 the panhandle that is the northern

00:44:53.820 most district in the state of florida by

00:44:56.620 and large and then randy fine if you

00:44:59.240 are living in the sixth congressional

00:45:00.820 district of florida and that is the

00:45:03.320 area daytona st augustine both very

00:45:06.700 strong trump territory two different

00:45:09.620 congressmen there matt gates and mike

00:45:12.040 waltz both being replaced in these

00:45:14.740 special elections democrats you heard

00:45:17.140 jimmy patronus at the top of the uh

00:45:19.700 midway through the first hour tell us

00:45:22.020 that he's been outspent five to one

00:45:23.780 buck yesterday you had randy fine on and

00:45:26.240 randy fine has been outspent nearly ten

00:45:29.360 to one were the dollar figures that i

00:45:31.460 saw so we want you to go send a message

00:45:33.620 randy fine jimmy patronus for the

00:45:35.400 floridians out there i'm down in miami

00:45:37.360 with buck thank you to him for holding

00:45:39.240 down the fort yesterday while i was

00:45:40.800 helping uh frank siller and all the guys

00:45:43.320 and gals at tunnel to towers raise money

00:45:45.760 for the fabulous event that they do t2t.org

00:45:48.860 they had a florida uh golf event going on

00:45:51.760 there uh and also wisconsin wisconsin is i

00:45:57.120 think it's fair to say buck the number

00:45:59.200 one battleground state in america right

00:46:01.620 now in that every race comes down to just

00:46:05.980 a few thousand votes it feels like our

00:46:08.100 buddy uh ron johnson got re-elected in

00:46:11.420 2022 by about 25 000 votes for those of

00:46:15.000 you who remember trump won uh wisconsin

00:46:18.200 by 30 000 votes in this most recent

00:46:21.660 election in november uh unfortunately uh

00:46:25.060 eric hovde lost wisconsin by a few

00:46:27.840 thousand votes by and large i mean this

00:46:30.220 is every single election in wisconsin

00:46:32.920 is right there on the margin of going one

00:46:35.780 way or the other so if wisconsin voters

00:46:38.360 who voted for trump come out they will win

00:46:40.140 that supreme court race uh and all three of

00:46:42.840 those races will be used in many ways as a

00:46:45.740 referendum on the first 70 some odd days

00:46:48.080 of the trump white house so that is out

00:46:51.000 there right now several other stories

00:46:53.400 underway trump reportedly as we were just

00:46:55.500 discussing going to give his full tariff uh

00:46:58.940 uh decision on april 2nd four o'clock

00:47:03.480 eastern we will figure out exactly what that

00:47:05.880 is tomorrow i would imagine more and more

00:47:07.860 of it will uh leak out we've got uh the 80th

00:47:12.300 anniversary by the way of okinawa for those

00:47:14.840 of you out there that are world war ii history

00:47:17.460 buffs today is the 80th anniversary i believe

00:47:20.060 of the initial attack at okinawa am i correct

00:47:22.640 in that uh sure i think i mean that that's

00:47:25.440 quite a stat to pull out of thin air they're

00:47:27.240 putting me on the hot seat the team team in

00:47:29.080 new york make sure that i didn't screw that

00:47:30.840 up i think that is correct that uh i know we

00:47:34.040 just uh had the 80th anniversary of d-day last

00:47:37.240 year i think the invasion of okinawa i believe

00:47:40.140 this is the 80th anniversary of that occurring

00:47:42.740 back in 1945 luigi mangioni uh a report that we are

00:47:48.420 going to be seeking through attorney general pam

00:47:50.900 bondi the death penalty um and uh there are a bunch

00:47:54.800 of other stories out there you're right on the

00:47:56.940 beginning of the battle of okinawa and we have uh

00:48:00.840 something special for everybody on the battle that

00:48:03.600 is known as hacksaw ridge we'll play that a little

00:48:06.300 later for everybody all right so i want to get your

00:48:09.160 take on this there has been a lot of drama in the

00:48:12.940 past few days over trump potentially wanting a third

00:48:18.480 term oh boy uh this is uh this is echoing

00:48:22.860 everywhere and uh i want to hit this for you i

00:48:27.180 believe we have trump talking about he'd like to run

00:48:31.180 against obama now trump has an ability to get attention

00:48:35.360 for things that frankly nobody else can get attention for

00:48:39.940 and we all know that he likes to gig the media a decent

00:48:43.660 amount now this initially started i believe buck with

00:48:46.260 kristin welker at mbc's meet the press trump gave quotes

00:48:50.820 there but here is cut three trump says he would welcome a

00:48:55.460 challenge from obama and he thinks it would be a good one

00:48:58.980 uh this is again cut three if you were allowed for some reason to run

00:49:03.180 for a third term is there a thought that the democrats

00:49:06.280 could try to run for off obama against you i'd love that

00:49:10.260 for his third term i'd love that that would that would be a good one i'd like

00:49:13.900 that i know people are asking me to run and

00:49:16.760 there's a whole story about running for a third term i don't know i never looked

00:49:20.340 into it uh they do say there's a way you can do

00:49:24.020 it but i don't know about that but i have not looked into it i want to

00:49:27.000 do a fantastic job we have four years just about

00:49:30.240 almost close to four years it's time is flying but it's still close to four years

00:49:35.240 and we're getting a lot of credit for having

00:49:38.380 done a great job in the first almost 100 days

00:49:40.980 okay peter ducey great question um as uh he tied in barack obama versus donald trump

00:49:48.840 let their guy go for a third term against our guy that would be an epic battle

00:49:53.760 what do you think's going on here what is all the third term talk about from your perspective

00:49:59.740 okay well for one thing it reminds me of gladiator which is a fantastic movie as we all know we've

00:50:06.400 discussed here it's your wife's favorite movie it's a top of all time five maybe top three for

00:50:11.620 me i mean so i i'm a huge gladiator fan as well not gladiator two that would be for peasants

00:50:16.940 some people are saying some people are saying gladiator two for peasants but anyway gladiator

00:50:22.580 one amazing and uh remember when they they bring out of retirement to face maximus they bring like

00:50:29.540 the greatest gladiator of all time i think it was titus of gall wow i've seen that movie a lot

00:50:33.660 titus of gall and he's the guy with the the metal the sort of gold uh mask on and the tigers and

00:50:39.960 all that stuff trump is a showman and for him the ultimate political opponent of this era would

00:50:46.580 be barack obama yes that is the the only democrat who won majorities uh twice you know even look

00:50:53.720 back at bill clinton bill clinton won with the first time what 40 something percent three percent

00:50:58.340 something like that now he was running with ross perot who got nearly 20 percent of the vote i mean

00:51:03.240 but bill did not have any kind of a mandate you know clinton never won a majority of never got

00:51:09.860 over 50 percent of the election which a lot of people don't realize right that's a stunning statistic

00:51:14.140 when you think about it in retrospect so barack obama would be the democrats great champion right

00:51:19.440 that's so trump just leaning into that i think is very trump not surprising at all the third term talk

00:51:25.520 uh i see this entirely as trump doing what he does which is he's going to get all of this

00:51:32.340 focus from anti-trump media on this everybody who likes trump and voted for trump kind of just smiles

00:51:39.480 and looks at this they're like yeah whatever you know calm down like no one really gets worried about

00:51:43.760 it from our side or then we worry about it just doesn't pay as much attention to it i think they

00:51:48.080 like the they are amused by how much it upsets democrats but here's what it does do tomorrow trump's

00:51:53.500 talking about tariffs last hour we were discussing tariffs there are a lot of people that want to

00:51:58.940 create a narrative that what trump is doing with the economy is destabilizing etc etc this takes some

00:52:05.600 of the heat off i view it as a little bit of a smoke screen or a distraction technique for the media

00:52:11.800 because they're going to spend a lot of time talking about something that is completely irrelevant right

00:52:16.820 now other than for the amusement factor and it takes some of the heat off of the look that they're

00:52:22.580 starting to see that there's uh they've got to do these cuts and they've got to do these changes

00:52:27.440 in these tariffs in a way that doesn't just feed narratives to the opposition right it's the right

00:52:32.540 thing to do but you have to handle it a certain way i think what it really represents is trump's

00:52:36.960 awareness that fixing the country is going to take more than four years and this is why we have said

00:52:44.060 you've got to string together a series of wins no matter how successful of a term trump has and i believe

00:52:52.720 he's going to have a very successful term in office here he's going to have to leave i believe in 2029

00:52:59.340 and certainly the other crazy thing about this is the process to select trump's replacement as the

00:53:06.680 republican nominee for 2028 will actually get underway by march of 2027 and that sounds crazy and honestly

00:53:17.080 the shadow primary will begin before then because people will be out raising money but basically the

00:53:22.680 day after the midterms happen next year the official running start date of the 2028 presidential calendar

00:53:29.680 will begin and that's going to happen in a hurry and one thing that we have talked about is

00:53:34.760 how will trump handle we've never seen this in his entire political career how will trump handle

00:53:41.660 the possibility of there being a successor to him which means that he isn't necessarily the straw that

00:53:49.560 stirs the drink that is the pursuit of who the new republican nominee would be matters now i think his

00:53:55.620 selection you nailed this uh well called by you before anybody else was saying it to me jd vance

00:54:02.400 actually is a selection that trump made because he wants there to be another generation continuing

00:54:11.720 the work that he started he could have picked a guy like doug bergam for instance nothing against doug

00:54:16.840 bergam who's in the cabinet but doug bergam is an older guy there are a lot of 40 somethings that

00:54:23.060 trump has surrounded himself with whether it's uh pete hegseth whether it's tulsi gabbard whether it's jd

00:54:29.300 vance these are guys and gals that are relatively speaking youthful in the political context and i

00:54:36.820 think that was a conscious decision to try to prolong the uh the movement that trump is trying to put in

00:54:43.760 place so you see this as pure 4d chess from trump just to be clear you think that him talking about

00:54:48.820 a third term you're going really this is like marcus aurelius level philosophical future of the

00:54:54.820 republic stuff you're going with here i think that trump will this is my take i think that trump

00:55:00.900 in 2027 will say at some point jd vance is my guy and i think he will endorse jd vance interesting

00:55:09.680 because i think he wants jd vance to be seen as the heir to trump i think that uh we'll see we'll see

00:55:17.920 we can mark this one down i feel i feel like trump is going to view the successor as a as a version of

00:55:24.820 the apprentice for the leader of the free world and i'm not sure that he's going to he certainly

00:55:29.540 hasn't already and he's been given opportunities to say it is jd he's sort of uh deferred on that

00:55:35.020 yeah he asked that question directly directly so maybe in time uh but i could see trump wanting to

00:55:40.300 be kingmaker toward the end here and you know he's a guy who likes to be in the center of the game

00:55:45.660 the second that you pick your your v i can't believe we're talking about you know we're just

00:55:50.860 a couple months into trump's term we'll get back onto that in a second but the second that you say

00:55:54.820 who your successor is in this political environment the successor is going to be the person who is

00:56:00.740 driving a lot of the party agenda so i whereas if you say hey guys i got a lot of work to do until

00:56:07.060 the very end i'm running through the tape and we'll see what happens with the successor changes the game

00:56:12.940 i do think it's interesting as well though um there are two two pathways to follow barack obama

00:56:21.340 anointed hillary clinton his successor kicked joe biden to the curb barack obama was right to do so

00:56:28.480 correct he actually made the right move because he was like dementia joe should not he doesn't have

00:56:32.760 the ability to do this and now we unfortunately have all figured that out but remember he never

00:56:37.620 endorsed biden everybody forgets in 2020 barack obama set out the race so to your point it may be

00:56:45.440 that trump likes the competition of people trying to get his endorsement and doesn't decide to do it i

00:56:52.960 will say this you know what he moved a bust into the white house recently fdr i don't know that it's

00:57:00.520 been talked about or reported on but trump took a bust of fdr and had it moved into the white house

00:57:08.780 now google i have a team back in new york google and see whether this has been written about um i was

00:57:14.880 told about this uh when i was traveling on air force one uh to go to the ncaa wrestling championships

00:57:21.400 recently trump has been saying recently that his favorite democrat is fdr and if you ask him why

00:57:28.760 his favorite democrat is fdr he says because he served multiple terms

00:57:33.840 well uh four right he got elected 32 36 40 44 four yeah just four terms yeah four terms in office

00:57:43.480 they had to have a whole constitutional amendment because of him what was it 1951 i think the

00:57:48.900 constitutional amendment came down which is interesting that we have term limits for president

00:57:52.400 and not term limits for any other elected office how many how many people do you think if you walked

00:57:58.080 on the street and you asked them to name any and they don't have to i'm not saying memorized but to

00:58:03.900 say any amendment beyond the first 10 that they would be able to do so i don't think you're i think most

00:58:10.540 people know the first amendment i think a lot of people know the second amendment uh by the time you get

00:58:15.480 into fourth amendment which is unreasonable search and seizure i think five percent of americans could

00:58:20.900 tell you what the fourth amendment is and by the way when you get into once you get into the 20s

00:58:25.080 you're really i think well i think some people would know the 19th amendment because they would

00:58:28.840 know popular culture when you get the right to vote and they would know ending slavery they would

00:58:32.400 probably when i say they five percent of people would know i ish yeah uh i think five percent you

00:58:40.060 know that's funny too is the most recent constitutional amendment is probably the most boring i think it

00:58:44.820 has to do with 1992 congressional salary changes can't take effect i can't believe they don't even

00:58:50.760 i don't even know that i check check me team am i right on this one this is really i've been doing

00:58:55.040 trivia night with carry recently so i try to be on my game we are reigning champ two nights in a row

00:58:59.240 at our local uh local club here by the way so just throwing that out there um but we had uh i think it's

00:59:05.920 90 91 or 92 it was you can't have a congressional salary change that takes effect until the next congress

00:59:12.140 i can't believe that that was actually a constant like you needed a constitutional amendment for that but

00:59:16.060 they did one uh i guess because everybody who makes the amendments was affected by it so some of

00:59:21.240 them are very um almost arcane or very procedure specific right anyway but no three terms is one of

00:59:29.200 them that's what got me on this whole rant in the first place so i don't know what what do you actually

00:59:35.480 think trump is serious you're talking about this like you think trump is considering this in some way

00:59:41.120 do you think he's really i don't think he's really considering i think he's having fun with it

00:59:46.780 um the problem is in order to change the law and allow him to run again would be very difficult but he

00:59:53.620 did say to nbc oh i could run as the vice president and then basically serve as the functional president

01:00:00.620 again i think trump is having fun because he knows to a large extent that his continued viability as a

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