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00:00:07.300 We're talking about the Mamdani, Kami Mamdani.

00:00:11.180 He is going to be in the White House tomorrow.

00:00:13.280 So he's got that going for him, which is nice.

00:00:15.720 But we are looking at what this is going to be like.

00:00:19.380 VIP email from Pamela.

00:00:21.800 Thanks, Buck, for reminding me to laugh sometimes at the Democrat antics

00:00:25.260 rather than just feel anger or fear.

00:00:26.960 It's much healthier to recognize it for what it is.

00:00:29.180 Keep the faith.

00:00:31.660 Preserve my sanity.

00:00:32.820 You guys are the best.

00:00:36.340 Well, yes.

00:00:36.960 Yes, indeed.

00:00:37.740 Thank you.

00:00:38.280 We try.

00:00:38.800 We try to be happy warriors here.

00:00:40.420 We're in the fight.

00:00:41.640 But, look, the day-to-day is stressful and hard enough.

00:00:45.340 We want you to come here, get a lot of great information, get insights,

00:00:49.440 have people like Governor DeSantis and Senator Ron Johnson fill you in

00:00:53.620 on what's happening from the very top levels of government, respectively,

00:00:57.040 in their different spheres, but also have fun.

00:01:00.020 We want you to have fun, obviously, every day.

00:01:03.700 Because it's more fun for us, too.

00:01:05.760 So I really appreciate that.

00:01:07.300 I just had to open up with a Jasmine Crockett thing today.

00:01:10.460 Do you realize that a man named Jeffrey Epstein?

00:01:12.940 You know, I grew up in Manhattan, and I think there were several Jeffrey Epsteins

00:01:20.880 in my general vicinity.

00:01:23.500 I didn't even think about it until now.

00:01:26.280 Oh, my gosh.

00:01:27.920 It's amazing.

00:01:29.540 It is amazing.

00:01:30.640 Also, VIP email from William writes,

00:01:34.020 Hey, Buck, to continue the fun, we should go to Jasmine's website

00:01:37.740 and donate to her campaign using the name Jeffrey Epstein.

00:01:41.980 Well, don't donate in someone else's name, but I get the joke.

00:01:46.200 And, yeah, it's, oh, man, funny stuff, funny stuff.

00:01:51.600 All right.

00:01:52.580 Now we got this Mom Donnie meeting tomorrow.

00:01:54.780 What's really at issue here?

00:01:56.640 And I think that there's going to be an effort to, well, first of all,

00:02:04.340 there's going to be an effort to make Mom Donnie-ism,

00:02:06.540 and Clay and I have talked about this a lot, an issue for the midterms.

00:02:10.120 I don't know how much, how well that will work.

00:02:13.200 I think the cost of things is a huge decider of where this midterm is going to go,

00:02:21.480 whether, you know, who makes the case that they're better at handling costs.

00:02:28.800 I was just actually reading a couple of days ago a piece, I can't remember,

00:02:35.200 Wall Street Journal, New York Times.

00:02:36.060 I read all these different newspapers constantly,

00:02:37.920 so I can't keep straight sometimes where I read it.

00:02:40.160 But as you know, one of the big Mom Donnie plans is a rent freeze.

00:02:45.560 I'm going to freeze the rent.

00:02:46.680 And this is one of these ideas that, I get it, it sounds good.

00:02:53.220 Like, oh, the rent's going to be frozen.

00:02:54.920 A lot of people, now, it doesn't sound good if you're a landlord, we'll get to that.

00:02:57.920 But, oh, you know, the rent's going to be frozen.

00:03:00.100 Because, yeah, New York rent is very high.

00:03:03.340 Why is New York rent very high?

00:03:06.700 This is true in a lot of cases.

00:03:11.500 Okay, a lot of places.

00:03:12.480 New York is a test case for this, but it's the same thing's true for house building in Los Angeles County.

00:03:20.200 Is that the county, L.A.?

00:03:21.140 It's L.A. County, right?

00:03:22.260 Yeah, Los Angeles County.

00:03:23.480 Same thing's true in a lot of very left-wing districts and counties in this country.

00:03:30.340 What makes the cost so high are things like labor costs, regulatory costs,

00:03:37.860 and then market conditions as well.

00:03:40.460 Do a lot of people want to live where you want to live?

00:03:44.240 There's also a supply and demand aspect of it, but there are artificial constraints on the supply and demand

00:03:51.320 as a result of government intervention.

00:03:56.340 This is where Hayek, it's a little dry, but Hayek's road to serfdom is so good

00:04:00.540 because Hayek makes the case that, and it's very important to remember,

00:04:06.760 government intervention in markets begets more government intervention in markets.

00:04:11.520 The more the government tries to play God, so to speak, in where you can live and what you pay

00:04:17.600 and what you can buy and all this,

00:04:20.320 then there's this tendency for them to say,

00:04:22.380 oh, we've created a distortion in the market, let's fix it with more government regulation.

00:04:28.680 And you all see this in your day-to-day life.

00:04:32.340 Whenever the government has done something, you're like, well, that's a dumb idea.

00:04:35.520 What happens later?

00:04:36.940 When everyone realizes it's a dumb idea, does the government say,

00:04:39.440 let's stop doing the dumb thing?

00:04:40.700 No, they generally want to do another dumb thing to fix the dumb thing

00:04:44.920 that they should not have done in the first place.

00:04:49.520 And with that, I bring you rent control or a rent freeze,

00:04:52.620 both of them applicable here, in New York City.

00:04:57.160 Oh, let's just freeze the rent.

00:04:59.480 Well, does that freeze the cost?

00:05:01.300 Does that freeze taxes on the people who own these buildings?

00:05:05.340 You know, this is where you start to see the destructive hand of government and markets.

00:05:13.480 And Mamdani fundamentally does not understand.

00:05:15.620 This is where he's a commie.

00:05:17.380 Well, we'll just, you know, we'll give more to people,

00:05:20.640 and then they'll have more stuff, and everybody will be happy.

00:05:23.560 But no, what about the hand that takes?

00:05:26.260 What about the government hand that says, well, that's mine now,

00:05:30.180 and I'm going to give it to somebody else?

00:05:32.220 That redistributive mechanism.

00:05:34.020 You think about housing stock in New York City.

00:05:37.620 There are 50,000, 50,000 housing units, mostly apartments,

00:05:48.340 some multifamilies and homes and stuff,

00:05:50.180 but 50,000 places where a person or a family could live that are off the market,

00:05:56.980 off the market entirely, and in disrepair, unlivable,

00:06:03.140 they've got, you know, they had some kind of a flood,

00:06:07.200 or they have an asbestos problem, or they have whatever it is.

00:06:10.520 And you know why they're off the market and not going to be on the market?

00:06:14.740 Because New York City passed laws that make it impossible for them,

00:06:20.680 for the landlords to recoup the cost of what it would be to make the place livable.

00:06:26.420 So you want to talk about artificial housing constraints.

00:06:31.240 These are already, these are domiciles that would be ready to go.

00:06:35.680 You've got to put some money into them.

00:06:37.240 But the landlords realize, if I can only, if I have to spend,

00:06:40.920 let's just make this kind of simple, a one-bedroom apartment,

00:06:46.520 and if I spend 50,000, I'm a landlord in New York, right?

00:06:53.740 There we go.

00:06:54.140 I spend $50,000 to bring that apartment up to code,

00:06:58.020 make it nice, make it, you know, clean, safe.

00:07:00.300 Somebody's going to want to live there.

00:07:02.680 But I can only raise the rent from what it used to be,

00:07:06.000 $50 a month, $100 a month.

00:07:10.100 I'm never going to recoup my investment.

00:07:11.700 I would need to raise the rent, you know, $1,000 a month or $1,500 a month

00:07:17.160 or whatever it may be.

00:07:19.000 And they won't allow it.

00:07:20.740 And so as a result, you have all these young people,

00:07:23.200 like, I can't afford to live in New York.

00:07:24.760 Well, that's because the idiot politicians who run New York City,

00:07:28.100 which is only possible also, the New York bureaucracy,

00:07:31.100 is only possible because of the 1% of high earners in New York

00:07:35.540 who fund all of the madness.

00:07:38.000 Also true in California.

00:07:39.760 If 1% of New Yorkers left, I mean, that full 1% of top earners,

00:07:45.720 if all of them left, the whole city budget, I mean,

00:07:49.040 you'd lose half of the revenue.

00:07:51.280 Be gone.

00:07:53.420 So because New York has such a concentration of extremely high earners,

00:07:59.560 they're able to get away with a lot of really bad policy.

00:08:03.580 It's a bit like a national government that has a tremendous amount of oil.

00:08:07.860 They can get away with a lot of really bad policy

00:08:09.820 because oil is going to pay a lot of the bills.

00:08:13.220 And that's like having an ATM machine that's just spewing out money.

00:08:17.140 When you have, I think New York has more, obviously,

00:08:20.340 more billionaires than anywhere else in the country

00:08:22.340 and more extreme high earners, although the Bay Area,

00:08:25.940 maybe the Bay Area actually now, I'd have to look at the numbers

00:08:28.520 because of all the tech stuff.

00:08:30.380 There's tremendous high earners there too.

00:08:33.740 But if you had a flight of just even half of that 1%,

00:08:39.420 the whole city, even 25% of that 1%, 10% of that 1%,

00:08:43.840 the city budget just can't work, can't function.

00:08:47.400 You start to think about how you get a state

00:08:49.080 and then a federal bailout or something.

00:08:50.360 So my problem with Mamdani-ism is he has no response to what I said

00:08:59.080 other than to grin and tell people,

00:09:02.120 we're going to make it better for you.

00:09:04.320 What I just explained is the reality

00:09:06.760 that there are artificial constraints on housing

00:09:10.600 that make the existing housing more expensive.

00:09:14.140 And instead of dealing with those constraints

00:09:18.120 and letting the market,

00:09:20.080 a lot of people want to live in New York,

00:09:21.640 they could build a lot more housing in New York.

00:09:23.400 But instead of dealing with that properly,

00:09:26.100 he's going to punish the people

00:09:27.740 that you actually need to incentivize,

00:09:30.800 landlords, builders, developers.

00:09:33.600 He's going to punish them more

00:09:35.440 and make the problem worse.

00:09:38.000 Make scarcity a bigger issue.

00:09:40.820 This is exactly what's going to go on.

00:09:42.220 And then there's the immigration

00:09:44.320 and enforcement side of...

00:09:46.480 Oh, wait, sorry.

00:09:47.080 Here we go.

00:09:48.520 Mamdani on day one plan.

00:09:49.760 This is why I was thinking about this.

00:09:50.900 I got so fired up.

00:09:51.880 I didn't even...

00:09:53.180 The first order of business

00:09:54.740 is to freeze the rent.

00:09:56.700 Play 13.

00:09:57.540 Yeah, I think the first order of business

00:09:59.160 will frankly be the Rent Guidelines Board

00:10:00.780 and freezing the rent

00:10:02.020 for more than 2 million rent-stabilized tenants.

00:10:03.980 That is something that happens

00:10:04.940 on an annual basis here in New York City.

00:10:07.140 The other two, as you referred to,

00:10:08.440 is making buses fast and free

00:10:09.840 and delivering universal child care.

00:10:11.140 And just this past week,

00:10:12.680 I had a great meeting with the governor

00:10:13.960 where we spoke about our shared focus

00:10:15.840 on an affordability agenda

00:10:16.900 and on universal child care particularly.

00:10:19.340 And this is something

00:10:19.940 that will take a period of time.

00:10:21.780 These are all promises

00:10:22.720 that I intend to keep

00:10:23.860 over the time that I am mayor.

00:10:25.060 And I also know

00:10:26.060 that what they have the potential to do

00:10:28.460 is transform New Yorkers' ability

00:10:30.120 to live in the city.

00:10:33.040 This is true.

00:10:33.920 I know this is going to sound flippant.

00:10:35.160 You know where they had universal child care

00:10:36.780 as a matter of policy?

00:10:38.320 The Soviet Union.

00:10:39.040 They did.

00:10:41.440 Do you think it was any good?

00:10:42.580 No.

00:10:43.400 No.

00:10:43.680 You do not want your kids to be in that.

00:10:44.920 But they did have it.

00:10:46.200 So they could have mom and dad

00:10:47.560 in the factories.

00:10:49.660 The factories that didn't produce very much.

00:10:52.520 The factories where they pretended to work

00:10:54.440 and the owners pretended to,

00:10:55.820 or the government pretended to pay them

00:10:57.380 because they were the owners.

00:10:59.940 It's astonishing that this is where we are.

00:11:02.380 Are you a rent freeze in New York?

00:11:04.400 This guy got elected.

00:11:05.580 This is the problem with Democrats, everybody.

00:11:07.900 And I know for a lot of you,

00:11:08.660 you're like,

00:11:08.840 fuck, I live in Texas.

00:11:09.640 Why do I care?

00:11:10.200 Because this is Democrats

00:11:10.960 at the national level, too.

00:11:12.060 This is how they think about everything.

00:11:14.340 They approach it

00:11:15.280 like a child would approach the problem.

00:11:17.740 Instead of looking at what caused it

00:11:19.480 and brought it to this point,

00:11:20.340 it's like,

00:11:20.600 well, what band-aid can I put on it

00:11:22.280 to make it better now?

00:11:23.980 What lipstick can I put on the pig,

00:11:26.840 so to speak,

00:11:27.260 to make it prettier?

00:11:28.280 They don't actually look at root causes.

00:11:30.480 They pretend to care about root causes.

00:11:32.240 They don't care about root causes.

00:11:33.120 They pretend to care about what got us here.

00:11:36.260 The worst thing you can do

00:11:37.940 for housing affordability in New York City

00:11:39.880 overall

00:11:40.760 is more stupid policy

00:11:42.880 that makes it impossible

00:11:44.040 for there to be more units on the market,

00:11:46.100 more units being built.

00:11:48.160 That's the worst thing you can do.

00:11:49.960 And that's what he's doing.

00:11:51.440 So this guy got elected largely

00:11:53.960 on an issue

00:11:56.020 where not only will he fail to make it better,

00:11:59.300 he is inevitably going to make it worse.

00:12:01.200 And this is the part that will really drive

00:12:03.660 a lot of us crazy

00:12:04.420 and certainly a lot of New Yorkers crazy,

00:12:05.900 and he will take no responsibility for it

00:12:08.260 when he fails.

00:12:09.420 It'll be somebody else.

00:12:10.900 It'll be the rich,

00:12:12.140 the fat cats,

00:12:13.120 the millionaires,

00:12:14.020 and the billionaires.

00:12:15.020 It'll be some class warfare nonsense,

00:12:16.660 or it's Donald Trump's.

00:12:18.020 It'll actually probably be Donald Trump's fault,

00:12:19.980 which is one of the reasons

00:12:21.100 why I think Trump and Momdani meeting tomorrow

00:12:22.820 is so interesting,

00:12:23.480 because Momdani has Trump built up

00:12:26.760 as the boogeyman

00:12:27.200 boogeyman

00:12:27.760 who will be the excuse

00:12:29.960 for whatever failures

00:12:31.460 Momdani has in New York City.

00:12:34.160 Whatever real market

00:12:35.740 or real economic failures there are,

00:12:38.160 he'll say,

00:12:38.520 well, it's Trump's fault.

00:12:40.180 Does he have to explain that?

00:12:41.620 No, it's just going to be

00:12:42.800 something that he says

00:12:43.820 that makes him feel good.

00:12:44.700 So we'll see.

00:12:45.640 I'll take your calls on this.

00:12:47.500 And also,

00:12:48.560 I want to talk about this video

00:12:49.620 that was made,

00:12:50.300 this video that was put out,

00:12:51.520 like a commercial,

00:12:53.000 about not obeying illegal orders

00:12:55.160 from a bunch of Democrat politicians,

00:12:57.760 including a senator,

00:12:58.900 Slotkin,

00:12:59.480 who I know,

00:12:59.780 she wants to be president,

00:13:00.640 by the way.

00:13:01.900 It's not going to happen,

00:13:02.720 but we'll talk about that

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00:14:49.880 Governor Ron DeSantis

00:14:51.240 joins us now.

00:14:52.660 The governor of my

00:14:53.400 great home state of Florida,

00:14:55.100 Mr. Governor.

00:14:55.920 Thank you for making

00:14:56.600 the time for us.

00:14:58.360 Oh, it's good to be with you.

00:14:59.420 How are you?

00:15:00.560 I'm good, man.

00:15:01.080 You're just doing

00:15:01.560 such a good job, honestly.

00:15:03.220 My wife and I

00:15:04.040 were the relatively

00:15:05.100 new Floridians,

00:15:06.060 although she grew up here,

00:15:07.020 but we moved back here.

00:15:08.620 And it's just nice

00:15:09.980 to be in a state

00:15:10.560 where I always tell

00:15:11.660 the audience,

00:15:12.120 I'm like,

00:15:12.460 good and sane things

00:15:13.800 are happening

00:15:14.340 that I don't even know about.

00:15:15.420 I read about things

00:15:16.460 that you guys are doing

00:15:17.140 up in Tallahassee

00:15:17.960 and I go,

00:15:18.360 oh, that makes sense.

00:15:19.360 I like that idea.

00:15:20.860 You know,

00:15:21.040 when I was in New York,

00:15:21.780 I was like,

00:15:22.240 can we stop the crazy

00:15:23.920 for five minutes?

00:15:25.000 Can we just stop the crazy?

00:15:26.360 And by the way,

00:15:26.720 the answer was generally no.

00:15:28.700 Let's start with this possibility

00:15:31.320 because this is interesting.

00:15:32.180 This has gotten some

00:15:33.320 pretty big names

00:15:35.200 in the commentary space

00:15:36.620 have been having

00:15:37.120 a little back and forth online.

00:15:39.280 You support getting rid

00:15:41.200 of homesteaded property tax

00:15:43.140 in this state.

00:15:44.340 Can you walk through

00:15:45.840 why,

00:15:47.200 how,

00:15:48.100 and whether this is something

00:15:49.860 you think we can actually

00:15:50.860 get done?

00:15:52.400 So, one,

00:15:53.440 if you look at

00:15:54.140 what's pinching people,

00:15:55.920 property taxes

00:15:57.000 is one of the biggest things

00:15:58.140 that's pinching people,

00:15:59.080 particularly young families.

00:16:00.440 Why?

00:16:01.200 Because property valuations

00:16:02.920 have gone up.

00:16:04.060 And so you'll have somebody

00:16:05.120 that's had a house

00:16:05.820 for 30 years,

00:16:07.220 they're homesteaded,

00:16:08.580 you have a young family

00:16:09.640 bought a house

00:16:10.300 three years ago,

00:16:11.260 their valuation

00:16:11.940 is way higher,

00:16:13.420 so they're paying

00:16:14.020 a much higher amount

00:16:15.460 in property taxes.

00:16:17.340 You have to sell a house,

00:16:18.540 maybe you get transferred

00:16:19.460 from Miami to Tampa,

00:16:20.940 you buy high tax basis

00:16:22.800 and you're there.

00:16:23.760 So we do have

00:16:24.480 homestead protection,

00:16:26.060 it does limit the increases,

00:16:27.940 but even that,

00:16:28.940 it compounds

00:16:29.560 three percent a year.

00:16:31.760 So taxes is something

00:16:33.400 that we're completely

00:16:34.620 in control of.

00:16:35.540 I can't control

00:16:36.500 the price of housing,

00:16:37.720 I mean,

00:16:37.880 we can do some things

00:16:39.120 to have a good market.

00:16:40.920 You know,

00:16:41.080 we have done

00:16:41.600 big insurance reforms

00:16:42.840 and we now have

00:16:43.380 17 new companies come in

00:16:45.100 and our biggest insurer

00:16:46.380 Peninsula just did a rebate

00:16:48.100 or just did a eight percent

00:16:49.900 reduction

00:16:50.460 and so we're having

00:16:51.860 no storms this year.

00:16:53.080 So we think there'll be

00:16:53.720 positive things there,

00:16:54.720 but ultimately

00:16:55.280 that's a private market.

00:16:56.280 We control the tax.

00:16:57.440 So here are some numbers.

00:16:59.080 In the state of Florida

00:17:00.440 gets no property tax revenue.

00:17:02.140 I have a surplus,

00:17:03.120 I have a maxed out

00:17:03.960 rainy day fund,

00:17:05.300 I don't get property tax revenue,

00:17:07.000 I don't need it.

00:17:07.700 So anyone that tells you,

00:17:08.840 oh, the state's

00:17:09.480 going to have to raise that,

00:17:10.720 no, we, we,

00:17:11.760 in fact,

00:17:12.140 I'm going to give money

00:17:13.140 to some of these

00:17:13.860 local governments

00:17:14.920 that are more

00:17:15.500 fiscally constrained

00:17:16.480 to make up.

00:17:17.680 So that's the first thing.

00:17:19.020 It's all administered

00:17:20.220 and decided

00:17:21.460 by your local authorities

00:17:22.880 and they get

00:17:23.640 a hundred percent

00:17:24.520 of the revenue.

00:17:26.060 If you go to COVID,

00:17:27.520 you go right before COVID,

00:17:28.800 2019,

00:17:30.120 local governments

00:17:30.940 in Florida

00:17:31.460 brought in a total

00:17:32.360 of $32 billion

00:17:33.480 in property taxes.

00:17:35.280 You know how much

00:17:35.840 they're bringing in today?

00:17:36.960 Six years later,

00:17:39.140 $56 billion.

00:17:42.020 Now listen,

00:17:42.640 we have had inflation,

00:17:44.200 we've had population growth,

00:17:45.940 but it didn't have been

00:17:47.000 that much.

00:17:47.940 And so they're spending

00:17:49.240 this money

00:17:49.980 that this gusher

00:17:50.880 of property tax revenue,

00:17:52.420 they're spending.

00:17:53.340 And we've been doging

00:17:54.420 the local governments,

00:17:55.620 Blaise and Golia,

00:17:57.020 our CFO,

00:17:57.780 is doing a fantastic job.

00:17:59.500 You know,

00:17:59.620 he's exposing

00:18:00.320 hundreds of millions

00:18:01.460 of dollars

00:18:02.040 in Miami-Dade,

00:18:03.520 in Jacksonville,

00:18:04.380 and all these places

00:18:05.300 that they're overspending.

00:18:08.000 So that's just

00:18:08.660 the first thing.

00:18:09.180 We've had a huge increase

00:18:10.720 in the size

00:18:12.180 and scope

00:18:12.700 of local governments

00:18:13.620 because they're getting this.

00:18:14.760 Now, another fact,

00:18:16.060 if you take

00:18:16.640 all the property tax revenue,

00:18:18.900 you have residential

00:18:19.980 and business.

00:18:22.000 The residential,

00:18:23.360 the majority of it

00:18:24.440 is non-homesteaded Floridians.

00:18:27.360 So second homes,

00:18:28.580 snowbirds,

00:18:29.760 Airbnb rentals,

00:18:31.060 you name it.

00:18:31.720 That's the majority

00:18:32.520 of residential

00:18:33.520 property tax revenue.

00:18:35.160 And then you have

00:18:36.060 the corporate

00:18:37.260 or the business tax revenue.

00:18:39.020 So the total amount

00:18:40.100 of residential,

00:18:42.720 Florida,

00:18:43.840 homestead property

00:18:44.880 tax revenue

00:18:45.720 is between 30

00:18:47.280 and 33%

00:18:48.300 of all of this.

00:18:49.300 Now, mind you,

00:18:50.000 the budgets have gone up

00:18:51.120 way more than 30%

00:18:53.000 in the last few years.

00:18:54.360 So our view is,

00:18:55.420 is, well, let's,

00:18:56.520 if you own your home

00:18:58.100 and then you stop

00:18:59.640 paying taxes in 20 years,

00:19:01.200 the government

00:19:01.600 takes it from you.

00:19:02.840 So is that really

00:19:03.820 home ownership?

00:19:05.060 And I think Florida,

00:19:06.100 we're in a situation

00:19:07.160 and we're still working

00:19:08.160 on the particulars

00:19:09.280 because the details

00:19:10.380 do matter

00:19:10.940 and we're going to have

00:19:11.560 something very positive

00:19:12.980 for all this.

00:19:14.900 But we are in a unique position

00:19:16.480 where so much

00:19:17.620 of our tax base

00:19:18.800 is comprised of people

00:19:20.460 that aren't even

00:19:20.960 full-time residents,

00:19:22.620 people that own

00:19:23.420 these big luxury,

00:19:24.660 you know,

00:19:25.220 houses

00:19:25.600 and they stay in

00:19:26.300 for three months.

00:19:27.700 I'd rather them

00:19:28.520 pay the tax

00:19:29.460 than have,

00:19:29.960 you know,

00:19:30.660 a cop that's got

00:19:31.680 a house worth

00:19:32.300 $400,000 in Miami.

00:19:34.560 So we have the luxury

00:19:35.860 of being able

00:19:36.720 to relieve our citizens

00:19:37.820 of more and more

00:19:38.560 burden of taxation.

00:19:39.920 So that's the nature

00:19:40.940 of it.

00:19:41.260 Now, you've mentioned

00:19:42.160 there have been some stuff.

00:19:43.340 All I can tell you

00:19:44.280 is like having

00:19:44.980 watched debates,

00:19:46.160 when you all of a sudden

00:19:47.360 start seeing

00:19:48.140 the same talking points

00:19:49.440 sprouting up

00:19:50.240 just like magically,

00:19:51.640 you know that

00:19:52.200 that's coordinated,

00:19:53.160 right?

00:19:53.340 That's an op.

00:19:53.960 So there's some people

00:19:54.780 out there

00:19:55.600 who don't want

00:19:56.380 to see this

00:19:57.360 and it's being orchestrated.

00:19:58.940 But none of the arguments

00:20:00.120 really make sense

00:20:00.900 against it.

00:20:02.220 And a lot of these people,

00:20:03.520 I think all of them,

00:20:04.200 don't even live in Florida.

00:20:05.540 So we have a specific

00:20:06.940 way we want to go

00:20:08.940 for Floridians

00:20:10.140 that'll make a difference.

00:20:11.280 Another thing, Buck,

00:20:12.000 just because there's a whole,

00:20:13.120 you've got to think out

00:20:14.660 what are the incentives

00:20:15.620 and how this.

00:20:16.160 So, for example,

00:20:17.140 I don't want to do

00:20:18.720 a situation

00:20:19.680 where it's going

00:20:20.220 to incentivize people

00:20:21.420 to flood into the state

00:20:22.800 to claim a tax benefit

00:20:24.320 from other states.

00:20:25.180 So it's going to be

00:20:26.140 structured in a way

00:20:27.260 that, you know what,

00:20:28.340 you elected Mindami,

00:20:29.880 you're not going to just

00:20:30.660 be able to come down here

00:20:31.820 and get no homestead

00:20:33.660 property tax like that.

00:20:35.100 You know,

00:20:35.260 you're going to have to

00:20:36.060 be somebody

00:20:36.860 that's been here

00:20:37.560 for longer.

00:20:38.220 Now, any citizen

00:20:38.940 who's here now,

00:20:39.940 you're 100%.

00:20:40.880 So there's all

00:20:41.980 these different things

00:20:42.720 that we're working on.

00:20:43.700 We're working on it

00:20:44.600 very smartly

00:20:46.280 and I've got a lot

00:20:47.500 of people that are

00:20:48.160 working on it

00:20:48.780 but the goal is

00:20:49.720 to have something

00:20:50.340 on the ballot

00:20:50.980 in November of 2026

00:20:52.880 where voters will be

00:20:53.920 able to vote for it

00:20:55.400 or not.

00:20:56.860 Well, you know

00:20:58.260 where I stand on this one

00:20:59.160 and I've been talking

00:20:59.660 about it for a while

00:21:00.360 and I think it's

00:21:01.000 really important

00:21:01.940 and one thing

00:21:02.700 that I see is also

00:21:03.680 a lot of people

00:21:04.740 who would perhaps

00:21:06.560 even want to move

00:21:07.320 within this state,

00:21:08.700 they don't want to,

00:21:09.400 you know,

00:21:09.560 if they want to get

00:21:10.080 a little more space

00:21:10.960 or whatever it may be,

00:21:12.320 they're worried

00:21:12.860 if they have to pay

00:21:13.760 at the new rate

00:21:14.640 on property.

00:21:15.260 You know,

00:21:15.400 property tax

00:21:16.100 creates all these

00:21:17.580 often, I think,

00:21:19.240 problematic disincentives

00:21:21.460 in the market

00:21:21.940 so that's an issue

00:21:23.120 that people don't

00:21:23.920 talk about enough

00:21:24.460 but the opposition

00:21:25.480 to this,

00:21:26.400 you know,

00:21:26.560 I've seen,

00:21:27.240 I know actually

00:21:27.900 some of the people

00:21:28.400 publicly who are very like,

00:21:29.560 no, you have to,

00:21:30.660 someone has to pay

00:21:31.300 the taxes.

00:21:32.180 Is it just

00:21:32.800 some philosophical,

00:21:34.680 oh, we can't give away

00:21:35.680 more to the boomers

00:21:36.700 or are there special interests

00:21:38.000 who are aligned

00:21:38.620 against this?

00:21:39.200 Because honestly,

00:21:39.720 I think,

00:21:40.100 and I'm sure you know this,

00:21:41.420 other states are looking

00:21:42.340 to see how this goes here

00:21:43.500 and they might want

00:21:44.380 to do some restructuring too.

00:21:46.360 Yeah, well,

00:21:46.680 first of all,

00:21:47.120 I think it's both.

00:21:48.300 I don't think it's,

00:21:49.160 I don't think those

00:21:49.640 are mutually exclusive

00:21:50.700 but you know,

00:21:51.840 there's this argument

00:21:52.680 that somehow

00:21:53.520 this is a quote

00:21:54.620 giveaway to boomers.

00:21:56.680 Now, first of all,

00:21:57.380 Buck,

00:21:57.580 I think you and I agree

00:21:58.720 if I reduce your taxes,

00:22:01.360 I'm not giving you anything.

00:22:03.580 Like,

00:22:04.020 that's your property.

00:22:06.260 You own it.

00:22:07.060 It's not the government's.

00:22:08.180 And so we go in this situation

00:22:10.140 where, like,

00:22:10.940 are you an AOC

00:22:12.000 or an Obama view

00:22:13.740 where everything belongs

00:22:15.060 to the government

00:22:15.800 and then government

00:22:16.720 determines, you know,

00:22:18.060 what you get to keep?

00:22:18.820 No, my default

00:22:19.540 is you own your home,

00:22:21.220 you get your income,

00:22:22.340 you get 100% of your income

00:22:23.480 in Florida

00:22:23.860 because we don't have

00:22:24.260 an income tax.

00:22:25.540 Any tax we cut,

00:22:26.980 you're just keeping more

00:22:28.060 of what you already have had.

00:22:30.440 You earned your home.

00:22:31.540 You purchased that home.

00:22:32.860 So philosophically,

00:22:33.940 when they're talking

00:22:34.500 about giveaway

00:22:35.340 with respect to reducing taxes,

00:22:37.800 to me,

00:22:38.420 that's a leftist argument.

00:22:40.100 Second,

00:22:40.340 and you brought it up

00:22:41.340 indirectly,

00:22:42.880 elderly people.

00:22:44.540 Now,

00:22:44.720 there are some elderly

00:22:45.520 that are getting strapped

00:22:46.540 with the taxes, too,

00:22:47.600 because they're on fixed income,

00:22:49.400 their taxes don't go up

00:22:50.500 as much

00:22:50.960 because they're homesteaded,

00:22:52.120 but it still compounds

00:22:53.380 over many years

00:22:54.320 and so they're being

00:22:55.080 in a situation

00:22:56.100 where it's tough.

00:22:57.060 But if you're

00:22:58.140 in a typical

00:22:58.680 residential community

00:22:59.800 in Florida

00:23:00.380 and you have somebody

00:23:01.600 that's lived in a home

00:23:02.500 for 30 years

00:23:03.380 and then you have

00:23:04.180 a young couple

00:23:04.880 that bought a house,

00:23:05.860 say,

00:23:06.000 in 2021,

00:23:06.760 that young couple

00:23:08.820 is going to have

00:23:09.280 a much higher tax basis

00:23:10.800 for property tax.

00:23:12.040 They are going to pay

00:23:12.880 way more

00:23:14.120 in property tax

00:23:15.600 than the elderly

00:23:17.120 homeowner

00:23:17.880 who's been grandfathered

00:23:19.460 in on the homestead

00:23:20.700 limitation

00:23:21.260 for the last

00:23:22.260 however many decades.

00:23:23.220 So if you're doing

00:23:24.720 a homestead exemption,

00:23:26.460 the young family,

00:23:27.420 they gain way more

00:23:28.880 with respect

00:23:30.040 to the total dollar

00:23:31.320 amount that they're doing.

00:23:32.200 So I think

00:23:32.600 what it does

00:23:33.220 is that when you have

00:23:34.180 people out of state,

00:23:34.960 they don't understand

00:23:35.700 how Florida works,

00:23:37.340 they somehow think

00:23:38.480 that elderly person

00:23:40.520 has a half-million-dollar home,

00:23:42.300 young couple

00:23:42.900 has a half-million-dollar home,

00:23:44.640 oh yeah,

00:23:45.180 the elderly

00:23:45.640 is getting

00:23:46.480 the same benefit.

00:23:47.740 In reality,

00:23:48.500 that is just not

00:23:49.120 the way it works

00:23:49.880 because of people

00:23:51.620 having owned their homes.

00:23:53.100 So I think

00:23:54.140 that it clearly

00:23:56.400 is not being done

00:23:57.660 with people

00:23:58.080 that are actually

00:23:58.860 in Florida

00:23:59.680 want to do.

00:24:00.060 but I do think

00:24:00.860 some of it

00:24:01.720 is special interest

00:24:02.520 but I do think

00:24:03.220 some of it

00:24:03.740 is ideological

00:24:04.740 and I think

00:24:06.140 it's more

00:24:06.660 of a left-bent.

00:24:08.320 Yeah,

00:24:08.620 again,

00:24:09.540 I totally agree

00:24:10.180 with that one

00:24:10.680 and this audience

00:24:11.740 already knows that

00:24:12.520 so that's not

00:24:13.120 anything new.

00:24:13.900 I'm a little surprised

00:24:15.160 to see some of the voices

00:24:16.240 quite honestly

00:24:16.820 that are on the right

00:24:18.100 who seem to be

00:24:18.900 have a problem with this.

00:24:20.120 I think it's bizarre

00:24:20.880 but anyway,

00:24:21.480 I actually wanted

00:24:22.120 if I could

00:24:22.820 now you probably

00:24:23.700 saw this,

00:24:24.380 Governor,

00:24:24.920 tomorrow

00:24:25.420 Trump and Mamdani

00:24:27.080 are meeting

00:24:27.960 and I just think

00:24:29.580 this is an opportunity

00:24:30.460 for you

00:24:32.000 to just in the

00:24:33.600 broadest terms

00:24:34.260 we have a huge

00:24:34.900 Florida audience

00:24:35.540 we have a huge

00:24:36.020 New York audience

00:24:36.760 and obviously

00:24:37.180 people all across

00:24:37.920 the country

00:24:38.300 are listening.

00:24:39.360 You have more

00:24:39.940 people in this state

00:24:41.060 right,

00:24:41.520 21 million

00:24:42.760 and half the budget

00:24:45.060 half the budget

00:24:47.100 of New York.

00:24:48.320 How is that possible?

00:24:50.060 Like what is

00:24:50.680 New York doing?

00:24:51.900 How is it spending

00:24:52.820 twice as much money

00:24:53.880 with less people?

00:24:55.660 Well,

00:24:55.800 not only that

00:24:56.540 but New York

00:24:57.680 City has

00:24:58.280 8 million people

00:24:59.280 and New York

00:25:00.360 City's budget

00:25:01.260 is bigger

00:25:01.900 than the entire

00:25:02.620 state of Florida's

00:25:03.520 budget

00:25:03.820 and we have

00:25:04.500 close to

00:25:04.900 23 and a half

00:25:05.820 million people

00:25:07.120 and that's

00:25:07.480 before Mamdani

00:25:08.360 takes over

00:25:09.560 the grocery stores

00:25:10.500 and does things

00:25:11.220 which are going

00:25:11.580 to cost even

00:25:12.180 more money.

00:25:13.460 It's crazy

00:25:14.440 what would happen

00:25:15.200 so I think

00:25:16.720 a lot of it

00:25:17.380 is they direct

00:25:18.820 money to

00:25:19.460 special interests

00:25:20.540 they have

00:25:21.300 different people

00:25:22.400 who are kind

00:25:23.140 of part of

00:25:23.560 their patronage

00:25:24.300 network.

00:25:25.160 In Florida

00:25:25.700 you look

00:25:26.480 what we spend

00:25:26.900 money on

00:25:27.460 obviously

00:25:28.140 we have

00:25:29.040 a federal

00:25:29.540 state

00:25:29.940 that does

00:25:30.560 Medicaid

00:25:31.380 as all states

00:25:32.120 do

00:25:32.360 but we didn't

00:25:32.820 expand it

00:25:33.400 under Obamacare

00:25:34.160 but we do

00:25:35.200 have that portion

00:25:35.980 education

00:25:37.000 the state

00:25:38.200 has a big role

00:25:39.340 in helping to fund

00:25:40.200 school districts

00:25:41.080 as well as

00:25:41.680 our school choice

00:25:42.560 scholarship program

00:25:43.860 which has a half

00:25:44.700 a million students

00:25:45.540 on it now

00:25:46.180 infrastructure

00:25:47.360 I've been able

00:25:49.000 to accelerate

00:25:50.260 projects

00:25:51.180 all around

00:25:51.940 the state

00:25:52.300 of Florida

00:25:52.720 so we're

00:25:53.140 delivering

00:25:53.600 five or ten

00:25:55.080 years ahead

00:25:55.540 of schedule

00:25:56.100 and that's

00:25:56.760 meaningful

00:25:57.160 for people

00:25:57.900 in terms

00:25:58.820 of their

00:25:59.400 family time

00:26:00.500 and not

00:26:00.760 having to be

00:26:01.060 in traffic

00:26:01.460 so much

00:26:01.760 and I know

00:26:02.080 we got a lot

00:26:02.980 of work

00:26:03.260 in some

00:26:03.540 other

00:26:03.720 Miami

00:26:04.320 is tougher

00:26:04.760 because

00:26:05.260 it's harder

00:26:06.140 to build

00:26:06.660 in different

00:26:07.080 areas

00:26:07.400 but in other

00:26:08.100 parts of the

00:26:08.540 state

00:26:08.700 we've made

00:26:09.100 really good

00:26:09.760 progress

00:26:10.180 I think

00:26:10.540 on that

00:26:10.960 and then

00:26:11.740 we've done

00:26:12.220 the biggest

00:26:12.980 conservation

00:26:14.080 program

00:26:14.960 and environmental

00:26:15.740 restoration

00:26:16.440 with Florida's

00:26:17.620 Everglades

00:26:18.300 which is a

00:26:18.960 huge success

00:26:20.080 that we've done

00:26:20.800 we did a Florida

00:26:21.840 wildlife corridor

00:26:22.860 because we don't

00:26:23.560 want the whole

00:26:24.060 state to be

00:26:24.620 a concrete

00:26:25.160 jungle

00:26:25.580 so we're

00:26:26.520 spending

00:26:27.100 money

00:26:28.060 on things

00:26:28.660 that really

00:26:29.180 matter to

00:26:29.840 people

00:26:30.140 but that's

00:26:30.640 really what

00:26:31.100 we spend

00:26:31.580 it on

00:26:31.920 I think

00:26:32.780 New York

00:26:33.420 it's all

00:26:34.420 about

00:26:34.820 kind of

00:26:35.480 whoever's

00:26:36.120 in the

00:26:36.340 barnacles

00:26:36.860 attached to

00:26:37.540 the ship

00:26:38.000 and all

00:26:38.700 the different

00:26:39.240 constituencies

00:26:40.240 in the

00:26:40.580 Democratic Party

00:26:41.500 they're doing

00:26:42.200 it and it's

00:26:42.600 interesting

00:26:43.000 they'll say

00:26:43.880 oh well

00:26:44.280 you know

00:26:44.640 they pay

00:26:45.760 better pension

00:26:46.620 benefits

00:26:47.240 you know

00:26:47.780 for their

00:26:48.140 police officers

00:26:49.020 and fire

00:26:49.600 well the thing

00:26:50.300 is a lot

00:26:50.720 of those

00:26:50.960 people move

00:26:51.600 to Florida

00:26:52.200 and spend

00:26:52.700 those pensions

00:26:53.460 in Florida

00:26:54.040 so it's like

00:26:54.900 you're doing

00:26:55.360 that and it's

00:26:55.900 like benefiting

00:26:56.520 our economy

00:26:57.260 down here

00:26:57.780 because you're

00:26:58.260 driving these

00:26:59.180 people away

00:26:59.880 but I really

00:27:00.600 think

00:27:01.080 you know

00:27:02.820 in terms of

00:27:03.680 there's obviously

00:27:04.200 a big difference

00:27:04.700 between the

00:27:05.080 president and

00:27:05.840 Mandami

00:27:06.380 Mandami's going

00:27:07.620 to do dumb

00:27:08.080 things in terms

00:27:08.860 of the economy

00:27:09.580 he's going

00:27:09.920 to try to

00:27:10.240 raise taxes

00:27:10.940 he's obviously

00:27:11.980 going to be

00:27:12.420 governed by a

00:27:13.080 woke agenda

00:27:13.660 educational stuff

00:27:14.720 or all that

00:27:15.100 but the number

00:27:15.840 one thing

00:27:16.360 that's going

00:27:16.620 to drive

00:27:16.900 people out

00:27:17.400 of that city

00:27:18.000 is that he

00:27:18.820 hates the

00:27:19.480 police

00:27:19.860 he wanted

00:27:20.880 to abolish

00:27:21.540 the NYPD

00:27:22.300 he thinks

00:27:23.420 he should

00:27:23.700 send social

00:27:24.380 workers

00:27:24.960 to answer

00:27:25.540 the 911

00:27:26.140 calls

00:27:26.720 so he

00:27:27.380 goes down

00:27:28.000 that road

00:27:28.840 it was bad

00:27:30.060 under de Blasio

00:27:30.920 it didn't get

00:27:31.740 much better

00:27:32.400 under the

00:27:33.100 current mayor

00:27:33.820 but I think

00:27:34.920 he's going to

00:27:35.240 make Bill de Blasio

00:27:36.420 look like a right

00:27:37.300 winger

00:27:37.620 I mean

00:27:38.060 it is going to

00:27:38.800 be really scary

00:27:39.900 I think

00:27:40.540 I think

00:27:40.560 that's the

00:27:41.040 place

00:27:41.300 unfortunately

00:27:41.880 having worked

00:27:42.900 for the

00:27:43.080 NYPD

00:27:43.500 for a short

00:27:44.000 while

00:27:44.220 governor

00:27:44.480 I can tell

00:27:44.940 you

00:27:45.180 that's the

00:27:45.840 place

00:27:46.060 where the

00:27:46.320 mayor

00:27:46.600 he is

00:27:47.920 kind of

00:27:48.200 the alpha

00:27:48.600 and omega

00:27:49.240 like he

00:27:49.740 can make

00:27:50.420 the determinations

00:27:51.260 about what

00:27:52.060 policing is like

00:27:52.920 in the city

00:27:53.440 these other

00:27:54.420 things the

00:27:54.820 economic things

00:27:55.420 probably can't

00:27:56.300 but governor

00:27:56.720 DeSantis

00:27:57.120 of Florida

00:27:57.680 thank you sir

00:27:58.520 for all you

00:27:59.060 do please

00:27:59.540 keep up the

00:28:00.040 phenomenal work

00:28:00.800 and come back

00:28:01.300 and talk to

00:28:01.720 us again soon

00:28:02.240 about what

00:28:02.580 you're up

00:28:02.840 to

00:28:03.020 ok

00:28:03.820 roger that

00:28:04.380 bye bye

00:28:04.680 the pre-born

00:28:06.700 network of

00:28:07.140 clinics has a

00:28:07.700 nationwide team

00:28:08.500 of people

00:28:08.860 looking after

00:28:09.360 the lives

00:28:09.800 of unborn

00:28:10.380 children

00:28:10.820 it's a

00:28:12.020 staff of

00:28:12.760 people

00:28:13.140 who are

00:28:13.760 truly saving

00:28:14.300 lives every

00:28:14.840 day

00:28:15.100 this past

00:28:15.860 year they

00:28:16.160 saved the

00:28:16.440 lives of

00:28:16.740 67,000

00:28:17.660 unborn

00:28:18.100 children

00:28:18.480 when a

00:28:19.220 woman walks

00:28:19.720 into one

00:28:20.000 of pre-born

00:28:20.400 clinics

00:28:20.780 she's

00:28:21.340 welcomed

00:28:21.620 with open

00:28:22.160 arms

00:28:22.480 she's

00:28:22.880 introduced

00:28:23.120 to her

00:28:23.420 baby

00:28:23.700 through

00:28:23.900 an

00:28:24.020 ultrasound

00:28:24.320 and

00:28:24.960 for the

00:28:25.180 first

00:28:25.380 time

00:28:25.640 she sees

00:28:26.060 life

00:28:26.420 not

00:28:26.700 loss

00:28:27.060 and

00:28:27.280 she's

00:28:27.520 offered

00:28:27.820 hope

00:28:28.240 filled

00:28:28.580 choices

00:28:29.040 when she

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00:28:30.140 life

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00:28:33.100 providing

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00:28:34.440 diapers

00:28:34.780 counseling

00:28:35.220 and so

00:28:35.560 much

00:28:35.760 more

00:28:36.100 pre-born

00:28:37.240 cares

00:28:37.520 for the

00:28:37.800 whole

00:28:38.000 woman

00:28:38.280 and the

00:28:39.080 precious

00:28:39.320 baby

00:28:39.600 growing

00:28:39.920 inside

00:28:40.280 her

00:28:40.440 as you

00:28:41.200 think

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00:28:42.540 consider

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00:28:45.420 there

00:28:46.380 are

00:28:46.520 hundreds

00:28:46.900 of

00:28:47.200 thousands

00:28:47.560 of

00:28:47.800 mothers

00:28:48.000 to be

00:28:48.280 in

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00:28:52.420 difference

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00:28:53.320 and

00:28:53.500 death

00:28:53.760 it

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00:29:13.420 the world

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00:29:15.960 reclaim

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00:29:24.280 third hour

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00:29:25.280 and buck

00:29:25.660 gets going

00:29:26.180 right now

00:29:26.700 with

00:29:26.980 senator

00:29:27.580 ron

00:29:28.440 johnson

00:29:29.320 of wisconsin

00:29:30.460 joining us

00:29:31.440 uh

00:29:32.560 senator

00:29:32.960 appreciate you

00:29:33.740 as always

00:29:34.200 sir

00:29:34.420 thanks for

00:29:34.840 calling in

00:29:35.600 well buck

00:29:37.140 i hope you're

00:29:37.560 doing well

00:29:37.980 yeah man

00:29:39.020 things are

00:29:39.340 great here

00:29:39.920 uh

00:29:40.380 let's

00:29:40.900 let's get

00:29:41.860 right to

00:29:42.340 it

00:29:42.580 this

00:29:43.060 uh

00:29:43.960 revelation

00:29:45.360 that came

00:29:46.220 out

00:29:46.680 it was a

00:29:47.300 combination

00:29:47.600 of reporting

00:29:48.320 from miranda

00:29:48.960 divine

00:29:49.300 tucker

00:29:49.580 carlson

00:29:50.060 uh

00:29:50.820 on

00:29:51.260 thomas

00:29:52.460 crooks

00:29:52.920 the would-be

00:29:53.400 assassin

00:29:53.840 of donald

00:29:54.380 trump

00:29:54.720 but really

00:29:55.140 the first

00:29:55.560 of two

00:29:55.900 would-be

00:29:56.160 assassins

00:29:56.640 but the

00:29:56.880 one who

00:29:57.100 actually

00:29:57.320 got

00:29:57.540 shots

00:29:57.880 off

00:29:58.180 and managed

00:29:58.580 to shoot

00:29:58.880 the president

00:29:59.320 in the

00:29:59.540 ear

00:29:59.880 um

00:30:00.960 there seems

00:30:02.300 to be

00:30:02.480 information

00:30:02.900 that maybe

00:30:03.320 the fbi

00:30:04.000 had but

00:30:05.760 didn't publicly

00:30:06.460 release or

00:30:07.240 first let me

00:30:08.420 ask you about

00:30:08.840 that what do

00:30:09.560 you make

00:30:10.020 of this

00:30:10.540 that there

00:30:10.960 were some

00:30:11.580 accounts

00:30:12.000 online

00:30:12.580 that we

00:30:13.360 weren't told

00:30:13.980 about that

00:30:15.320 indicated at

00:30:16.500 least uh

00:30:17.860 at some level

00:30:18.820 thomas crooks

00:30:20.060 had become a

00:30:21.040 you know

00:30:22.060 using trans

00:30:23.720 pronouns and all

00:30:24.540 this kind of

00:30:25.040 stuff what do you

00:30:25.660 make of this

00:30:26.140 did the fbi

00:30:26.680 probably know and

00:30:27.680 just not talk

00:30:28.300 about it or did

00:30:29.000 they miss it or

00:30:29.660 what

00:30:30.000 well again i've

00:30:32.520 got a great deal

00:30:33.400 of sympathy for

00:30:34.180 casper tell

00:30:35.040 dan bongino

00:30:36.160 pam bondi

00:30:37.680 um

00:30:38.280 going to these

00:30:39.500 agencies trying

00:30:40.420 to root out

00:30:41.180 the deep state

00:30:42.320 actors that

00:30:43.140 many are still

00:30:43.920 burrowed in

00:30:44.600 unable to

00:30:45.980 really hire

00:30:46.640 the kind of

00:30:47.320 staff they

00:30:47.780 need because

00:30:48.420 of the law

00:30:49.120 fair against

00:30:49.780 good people

00:30:50.320 like judge

00:30:50.720 troops in

00:30:51.200 wisconsin

00:30:51.640 and others

00:30:52.320 they're kind

00:30:53.020 of reluctant

00:30:53.400 to join the

00:30:53.960 trump

00:30:54.140 administration

00:30:54.640 during their

00:30:55.760 career will be

00:30:56.380 destroyed

00:30:56.880 so so i've

00:30:58.240 got i want

00:30:58.860 to start

00:30:59.180 there i've

00:30:59.560 got a great

00:30:59.940 deal of

00:31:00.200 sympathy these

00:31:00.620 guys come

00:31:01.080 into office

00:31:01.560 they've got

00:31:01.960 enormous messes

00:31:03.160 they're trying

00:31:03.520 to clean up

00:31:04.140 actually turn

00:31:05.740 these agencies

00:31:06.280 into what

00:31:06.740 they're they're

00:31:07.480 meant to be

00:31:08.240 crime fighting

00:31:09.420 units for the

00:31:10.520 standpoint of the

00:31:11.400 fbi but but

00:31:13.380 at the same

00:31:13.740 time i'll say

00:31:14.220 i've been

00:31:14.640 frustrating we

00:31:16.220 tried to undertake

00:31:18.620 a bipartisan

00:31:19.300 investigation and

00:31:20.620 then we did

00:31:21.020 some work but

00:31:21.920 by and large

00:31:22.780 what we found

00:31:23.180 out about

00:31:23.660 butler was

00:31:25.240 pretty well

00:31:25.940 gleaned by my

00:31:26.560 investatory staff

00:31:27.400 in the first

00:31:27.820 week primarily

00:31:28.400 talking to

00:31:28.940 local law

00:31:30.280 officials i

00:31:32.000 issued what i

00:31:33.080 considered a

00:31:33.540 friendly subpoena

00:31:34.180 to the fbi

00:31:34.900 to help prompt

00:31:36.320 more documents

00:31:38.540 more more

00:31:39.120 information coming

00:31:40.040 forward with our

00:31:41.000 liaison of the

00:31:41.700 fbi actually thanked

00:31:42.640 us for the

00:31:43.080 subpoena but

00:31:44.540 the fact of the

00:31:45.240 matter is we

00:31:45.720 really have not

00:31:46.460 gotten much so

00:31:47.860 we've had to go

00:31:48.660 out and contact

00:31:50.080 phone carriers and

00:31:51.600 social media

00:31:52.140 companies we're

00:31:52.760 starting to get

00:31:53.160 information we're

00:31:54.740 piecing things

00:31:55.480 together i've you

00:31:56.400 know there are

00:31:57.420 things that are

00:31:59.240 interesting that we

00:32:00.240 need to kind of

00:32:01.640 complete the

00:32:02.080 investigation before

00:32:02.880 we start publishing

00:32:03.600 but no there's an

00:32:04.620 awful lot unknown

00:32:06.400 about thomas crooks

00:32:08.280 that from my

00:32:09.260 standpoint we should

00:32:10.240 have known quite

00:32:10.680 some time ago

00:32:11.320 just so i'm clear on

00:32:12.800 this senator there's

00:32:13.860 an awful lot that

00:32:14.980 the public should

00:32:15.820 know about that

00:32:17.060 you think the fbi

00:32:18.260 has and has not

00:32:20.220 made public or

00:32:21.560 there's more that

00:32:22.560 the fbi maybe

00:32:23.880 didn't find

00:32:25.120 it's probably both

00:32:28.040 both okay yeah

00:32:29.480 yeah you know

00:32:30.280 again we

00:32:31.000 yeah i mean i'm

00:32:33.780 frustrated but

00:32:35.060 there's no doubt

00:32:35.580 about it uh but

00:32:36.500 but again i don't

00:32:37.180 want to be throwing

00:32:37.840 past teller dan

00:32:39.100 bonjour under the

00:32:40.120 bus because

00:32:40.620 just so you know

00:32:41.760 senator we don't do

00:32:42.640 that you know we

00:32:43.700 know cash and uh

00:32:44.920 and and dan here

00:32:46.000 they're friends of

00:32:46.580 ours i from before

00:32:47.960 they took these

00:32:48.500 jobs they took

00:32:49.740 these jobs because

00:32:50.520 they want to help

00:32:51.520 and they want to

00:32:51.960 reform and they

00:32:52.740 you know and we

00:32:53.620 get a lot of heat

00:32:54.400 for standing up for

00:32:55.220 them here because

00:32:55.760 some people have

00:32:56.400 been very frustrated

00:32:57.880 with them even a

00:32:58.840 lot of trump voters

00:32:59.560 have been frustrated

00:33:00.100 with the transparency

00:33:00.860 issue but i try to

00:33:02.240 remind everybody

00:33:02.960 these are enormous

00:33:05.500 unwieldy bureaucratic

00:33:07.020 institutions that

00:33:08.600 were really left to

00:33:09.580 rot from the inside

00:33:10.860 under previous

00:33:11.680 administrations

00:33:12.520 there's a lot of

00:33:13.080 work to be done

00:33:13.740 there really is so

00:33:15.920 uh we're pursuing

00:33:17.900 this uh i'm pretty

00:33:19.300 well undertaking

00:33:20.200 the investigation

00:33:21.240 now from the

00:33:21.880 senate standpoint

00:33:22.540 uh just through

00:33:23.180 my firm's

00:33:23.700 upcoming investigation

00:33:24.720 i kind of walked

00:33:26.720 away from the

00:33:27.420 the bipartisan

00:33:28.020 because it just

00:33:28.760 slowed us way

00:33:29.300 down um but

00:33:31.040 again all i can

00:33:32.000 say is there

00:33:32.620 there's more

00:33:33.160 information that

00:33:33.880 will eventually

00:33:34.480 come out uh

00:33:35.960 and some that we

00:33:37.280 have yet not yet

00:33:38.020 discovered so we're

00:33:38.900 still we're still

00:33:39.520 doing investigation

00:33:40.220 now on the

00:33:42.040 transparency issue

00:33:43.060 obviously you were

00:33:44.480 a yes vote for

00:33:45.540 releasing the epstein

00:33:46.620 files because the

00:33:47.460 senate was unanimous

00:33:48.300 in this right

00:33:48.860 one member of the

00:33:50.260 house everyone else

00:33:51.300 voted for it one

00:33:52.420 member of the house

00:33:52.920 is look i'm his

00:33:54.140 concern was that he

00:33:55.080 thinks that there are

00:33:55.580 people that will be

00:33:56.360 tainted who didn't do

00:33:57.560 anything wrong but their

00:33:58.520 name is just in some

00:33:59.340 okay so that was his

00:34:00.320 but everybody else

00:34:01.260 voted to release this

00:34:02.080 thing uh can you just

00:34:03.860 tell us what what your

00:34:05.520 sense is of where the

00:34:07.340 president has been on

00:34:09.000 this one i know you

00:34:10.020 talked to president

00:34:10.700 trump he is now in

00:34:12.300 favor of it but people

00:34:14.200 keep asking they say

00:34:15.040 well why is he in

00:34:15.980 favor of it now why has

00:34:17.100 there been this delay

00:34:17.900 and how do you see

00:34:19.260 the release of the

00:34:20.000 epstein files from the

00:34:21.860 beginning of this

00:34:22.540 administration to present

00:34:23.780 in terms of what's

00:34:24.860 going on here like why

00:34:25.920 has it been so stop

00:34:27.940 start

00:34:28.440 you really did a pretty

00:34:32.820 good job of laying out

00:34:33.660 his concerns about you

00:34:35.660 know information getting

00:34:36.840 out of the public domain

00:34:37.660 that really would be

00:34:39.180 harmful to victims and

00:34:40.360 is that going to be

00:34:41.140 adequately protected in

00:34:42.400 whatever gets released

00:34:43.900 this time more

00:34:47.860 concerns i think

00:34:49.660 president trump as i

00:34:50.820 would have similar

00:34:51.460 concerns going is this

00:34:52.660 evidence of these

00:34:53.500 documents untainted

00:34:54.580 let's face it they were

00:34:56.160 in the biden the midst

00:34:57.200 of the biden

00:34:57.580 administration who

00:34:59.120 were i mean that

00:35:00.440 administration doing

00:35:01.140 everything they could

00:35:01.900 destroy donald trump

00:35:03.020 during their four years

00:35:04.080 if there was something

00:35:04.620 damaging to trump you

00:35:06.100 would think that would

00:35:06.860 have already been

00:35:07.320 released um so yeah i

00:35:10.300 also take the

00:35:11.320 president's word i mean

00:35:12.140 he just he doesn't we

00:35:13.680 have serious problems

00:35:15.600 facing this nation

00:35:16.420 there are a lot of

00:35:17.120 things he's addressing

00:35:17.920 do we really need this

00:35:19.060 distraction having said

00:35:20.600 all that i'm as curious

00:35:22.400 as every other american

00:35:23.900 about what happened uh

00:35:26.700 bringing people to

00:35:27.700 justice who are pedophiles

00:35:30.180 that you know engage

00:35:32.320 this kind of abuse um

00:35:34.320 so again i i'm as

00:35:37.240 curious as anybody we

00:35:38.280 didn't take a vote by

00:35:39.280 the way we just passed

00:35:40.060 this by unanimous

00:35:40.760 consent i think before

00:35:42.400 the bill even got over

00:35:43.360 here so yeah the

00:35:45.280 senate didn't want to

00:35:46.360 take much time on this

00:35:47.320 that that was a fight in

00:35:48.840 the house uh people who

00:35:50.920 fought for disclosure

00:35:51.660 won and uh now we'll

00:35:53.600 see what we get yeah it's

00:35:54.980 a rare it's a rare moment

00:35:56.460 where things just fly

00:35:58.200 through in bipartisan

00:35:59.120 fashion in in the

00:36:00.460 congress so now we're is

00:36:02.860 it once the president

00:36:03.680 signs this and everyone

00:36:05.040 believes it's going to

00:36:06.160 get signed imminently

00:36:07.200 30 days for the release is

00:36:09.820 that how this goes that's

00:36:12.320 right here but again

00:36:12.980 they're those they still

00:36:14.000 probably need to do uh

00:36:16.040 review and there will be

00:36:18.220 some material with help

00:36:20.260 and they've in the while

00:36:21.900 they've got i think four or

00:36:22.780 five very specific reasons

00:36:24.240 of things that can be

00:36:25.720 withheld uh but you know

00:36:27.280 really what this reflects

00:36:28.140 is the public wanted to see

00:36:29.340 this and so as elected

00:36:31.220 officials when you when you

00:36:33.040 for a year are that's the

00:36:35.280 number one thing that

00:36:36.320 people are calling to your

00:36:37.280 offices you know vote to

00:36:38.880 release the uh epstein files

00:36:41.240 uh you know in the end

00:36:42.920 representative government

00:36:44.400 actually works

00:36:45.120 yeah that um what do you

00:36:48.620 have uh on the on the

00:36:50.600 agenda here i know the

00:36:51.460 senate goes into recess

00:36:52.400 what uh next week sometime

00:36:53.960 for thanksgiving um what

00:36:56.040 what are you hoping can get

00:36:57.220 done uh before the end of

00:36:59.620 this year is there anything

00:37:00.720 are you are you going to

00:37:01.540 try to get some judges

00:37:02.420 through how's that going

00:37:03.740 what what are you looking to

00:37:04.980 get the the senate to

00:37:06.520 finally push over the

00:37:07.640 finish line here before we

00:37:08.840 all head out for the

00:37:09.600 holidays yeah the senate's

00:37:11.520 always doing in nominations

00:37:12.860 now that we had to change

00:37:13.980 the rules because the

00:37:14.720 obnoxious obstruction of

00:37:16.100 democrats will probably

00:37:17.480 clear another 70 to 100

00:37:19.180 nominations of various

00:37:20.800 types but we are working

00:37:22.720 on health care you know by

00:37:24.020 the way we always have

00:37:25.040 it's just galling to hear

00:37:26.080 republicans have no plans

00:37:27.520 you know we have all kinds

00:37:28.460 of plans it's how do we get

00:37:30.660 it passed the democrats are

00:37:32.720 in a complete state denial of

00:37:34.400 the miserable failure that

00:37:35.700 obamacare has been the

00:37:37.560 reason people's premiums

00:37:38.720 are increasing is because

00:37:39.820 of the fall flawed design

00:37:41.320 of obamacare and so we

00:37:43.460 we are working very

00:37:44.480 diligently on that you

00:37:46.100 know rick scott is a

00:37:47.500 heavily involved in this

00:37:48.560 probably as knowledgeable

00:37:49.700 an individual on health

00:37:51.280 care in america if not the

00:37:52.940 world uh so we've got some

00:37:54.780 good people here i've bought

00:37:55.900 health care for 30 years i'm

00:37:57.380 pretty knowledgeable about as

00:37:58.440 well so we're going to do

00:38:00.000 this based on you know

00:38:00.900 repairing the damage done by

00:38:02.800 obamacare properly define the

00:38:05.140 problem coming up with you

00:38:06.860 what are the principles and

00:38:08.060 president trump tweeted the

00:38:09.520 main principles rather than

00:38:10.640 spend hundreds of percent

00:38:11.920 hundreds of billions of

00:38:12.680 dollars into these insurance

00:38:14.820 companies united health

00:38:15.800 stock price increased one

00:38:17.420 thousand one hundred thirty

00:38:18.480 seven percent since

00:38:20.260 obamacare the the lowest

00:38:22.060 percent increase in stock

00:38:23.440 price is four hundred fourteen

00:38:24.560 percent so instead of filling

00:38:26.800 the conference of insurance

00:38:28.300 companies uh why don't we give

00:38:30.100 that money to the american

00:38:31.780 people turn them into

00:38:33.600 consumers of health insurance

00:38:35.800 and health care with things

00:38:37.320 like hsa accounts so no

00:38:38.900 republicans have solutions

00:38:40.300 it's how can we overcome you

00:38:42.700 know the impediment that the

00:38:44.400 structure of obamacare is uh

00:38:46.440 with the current filibuster which

00:38:48.440 by the way i've very been very

00:38:50.600 public reluctantly i but i

00:38:53.120 completely agree with president

00:38:53.960 trump it's time to end the

00:38:55.160 filibuster the democrats will do

00:38:56.740 it we will look like schmucks in

00:38:59.760 twenty twenty eight if they

00:39:00.720 have all the levers of power

00:39:01.660 and they do this and then do

00:39:03.220 it to maintain their power as

00:39:05.680 opposed to we're going to do

00:39:06.680 it to secure our elections

00:39:07.900 for the secure border hopefully

00:39:09.600 repair the damage done by

00:39:11.040 obamacare transition to a

00:39:12.300 system that works you know have

00:39:14.020 a prosperous economy make things

00:39:15.920 more affordable you know we

00:39:17.560 would we would use ending the

00:39:19.480 filibuster for the benefit of

00:39:20.540 the american people not our own

00:39:22.120 personal power speaking to

00:39:24.380 senator ron johnson of

00:39:25.320 wisconsin and senator um i i

00:39:27.180 want to actually circle back if

00:39:28.340 i can to uh the oversight of of

00:39:31.180 the fbi for a moment here

00:39:32.560 because i know you're very up to

00:39:34.340 speed on uh the arctic frost

00:39:38.260 situation right that was the fbi

00:39:40.100 investigation run under the

00:39:42.340 bide administration about january

00:39:44.580 6 in the 2020 election it looks

00:39:46.640 like there were uh abuses there

00:39:48.800 what can you tell us about what

00:39:50.180 we're learning about arctic frost

00:39:51.480 and what's going to come next

00:39:52.540 well i think what has been revealed

00:39:55.440 recently this wasn't just a mere

00:39:57.000 fishing expedition this was a

00:39:59.400 massive partisan drag net really

00:40:02.800 meant to cripple the republican

00:40:04.000 party obviously trump was the main

00:40:05.980 target yeah yeah we got you know

00:40:08.180 some members of congress got some

00:40:09.860 of our phone records scooped up but

00:40:11.800 what's maybe the most outrageous is

00:40:14.560 just ordinary citizens you know all

00:40:16.820 these affiliated republican groups but

00:40:19.380 for example wisconsin 38 wisconsinites

00:40:22.700 just god-fearing country-loving

00:40:25.280 law enforcement supporting people

00:40:27.400 were on the enemy's list they are

00:40:30.100 literally trying to destroy a person

00:40:32.880 of unbelievable integrity judge

00:40:34.320 trupus who just represented

00:40:35.580 president trump for two two months

00:40:37.360 after the election there were serious

00:40:39.180 problems in wisconsin they're

00:40:41.040 criminalizing that behavior they're

00:40:42.560 attempting to that's what all

00:40:43.720 arctic frost is all about criminalizing

00:40:46.500 what basically jfk did in hawaii it was

00:40:49.300 alternate electors it's just shameful

00:40:51.600 and i i met with the attorney general

00:40:53.760 pam pam bondy and deputy attorney general

00:40:56.560 todd blanche this week and they are

00:41:00.180 completely on board with exposure and

00:41:03.040 one of the things i point out is get us

00:41:05.240 the communication records between

00:41:06.920 biden officials and wisconsin officials

00:41:10.660 on for example judge trupus you know

00:41:12.680 let's see the coordination between the

00:41:14.720 biden administration these outside groups

00:41:16.540 you know the mary mccords the uh

00:41:19.360 mark eliasis you know all these legal

00:41:21.500 groups that the left has that are

00:41:25.220 engaged in lawfare across the board it

00:41:26.680 got again not just against president

00:41:28.620 trump but ordinary americans people

00:41:31.660 just have to support the republican

00:41:32.960 party and uh president trump they're

00:41:35.880 trying to destroy all these people

00:41:37.400 senator johnson one more for you before

00:41:40.060 we let you go what is your favorite

00:41:41.900 part of a traditional and i don't know

00:41:44.280 how you guys do it up in wisconsin but

00:41:46.160 a traditional american thanksgiving feast

00:41:48.880 your favorite dish i mean it's it's the

00:41:52.240 turkey it's the dressing it's the gravy

00:41:54.280 it's the mass potatoes sweet potatoes and

00:41:57.280 corn that that is my thanksgiving dinner

00:41:59.720 i got to have it all in the right

00:42:01.580 portions i start and portion it out and

00:42:04.380 i end with the exact portions for that

00:42:06.000 final bite we just literally had

00:42:07.900 thanksgiving lunch johnson provided it so

00:42:10.660 i had a pre-thanksgiving dinner it was

00:42:12.520 fabulous can't wait till thursday and i

00:42:14.560 wish all you and all your listeners a very

00:42:17.020 happy thanksgiving same to you senator

00:42:19.400 thanks so much have a great holiday we'll

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00:44:15.200 all right so caroline levitt the white

00:44:19.000 house press secretary

00:44:20.720 has been laying down the smackdown on

00:44:26.600 various journos leftists libs reporters

00:44:31.540 and she's covered a range of topics i want

00:44:34.420 to get into some of them right now

00:44:35.900 this was interesting i knew this was

00:44:38.520 coming

00:44:38.920 and uh we maybe at some point we'll be

00:44:41.800 able to have a linda mcmahon on she's the

00:44:43.440 department of ed secretary we've reached

00:44:45.080 out

00:44:45.440 a little busy see make that happen

00:44:47.700 but

00:44:49.040 looks like the department of education

00:44:51.640 uh could be going bye-bye or at least parts

00:44:54.820 of it play uh levitt on 20 cut 27

00:44:57.580 president trump took a significant step

00:45:00.060 toward delivering on a core campaign

00:45:01.940 promise to finally close the department of

00:45:04.680 education to shrink the bloated federal

00:45:06.780 bureaucracy the department of education

00:45:08.800 just entered into new interagency agreements

00:45:11.520 with four agencies the departments of labor

00:45:14.260 interior health and human services and state

00:45:17.160 these agencies will now ensure the delivery of

00:45:19.800 legally required programs while also

00:45:21.980 refocusing them to better serve students

00:45:24.380 this common sense action brings the trump

00:45:26.820 administration much closer to finally

00:45:28.920 returning education where it belongs at the

00:45:31.880 state and local level not in washington dc

00:45:35.280 the democrats reckless 43 day government

00:45:37.760 shutdown did manage to do one valuable

00:45:40.260 thing it proved that america does not need

00:45:42.960 a federal department of education

00:45:44.980 so they are finding a way within the bureaucratic

00:45:51.420 framework that currently exists to

00:45:54.140 kind of dismantle the department of education

00:45:57.620 i i think that is the the plan here

00:46:00.500 and uh that's a good thing

00:46:03.620 that's a good thing uh there does not need to be

00:46:07.080 there should not be a federal department of education

00:46:09.620 there's there's no reason for this so several of its

00:46:14.180 main offices as she laid out here are

00:46:16.340 going to be moved into other places labor

00:46:20.200 interior so this won't affect the money that

00:46:24.300 congress gives state schools and colleges

00:46:26.400 so but why do we need a a huge bureaucratic

00:46:30.440 department as a pass-through for money that goes to

00:46:34.100 state uh education programs you start to think

00:46:37.840 about this you go hold on a second we have a whole

00:46:40.100 a whole agency in the department of education

00:46:43.200 whole department that seems to exist to be the

00:46:48.660 pass-through the middleman for federal funds that

00:46:53.380 go into state why don't we just if we're going to

00:46:57.040 give federal money to education give money to states

00:46:59.740 that are actually educating kids and running

00:47:02.940 colleges and uh you know universities

00:47:04.700 so i i i think i'm all in favor of this

00:47:09.960 uh education secretary lynn mcmahon has started a public

00:47:14.080 campaign for the end of her department yes

00:47:16.620 yes that's what you like to see

00:47:20.100 the person running it saying this should not even be

00:47:24.200 a job this should go away

00:47:27.640 but uh there's been you know that the department of education

00:47:32.560 education has really just been a progressive policy arm

00:47:35.320 under the guise of education but it's it's part of a

00:47:39.260 uh part of a really a lib deep state operation for a long time

00:47:44.120 because department of ed is so left-wing it doesn't really matter

00:47:47.380 what administration is in charge republican or democrat

00:47:51.220 the department of ed uh just pushes for policies that are left-wing

00:47:56.300 because that's who works there it's a bit like the department of uh or the

00:48:00.300 environmental protection agency epa is full of

00:48:05.040 uh left-wing climate change loons and so it doesn't matter if you have a

00:48:11.800 republican administration you have ideologues in an agency who are pushing

00:48:15.500 an agenda and doing so against the wishes of the

00:48:19.300 republican in the white house so you got to clean things up you got to

00:48:24.080 deal with the mess yeah i think this is great

00:48:26.980 uh you ask people what is the it's always so fun too i go okay

00:48:31.220 i go into grok as you know i like grok a lot what does the department

00:48:35.620 um the department of education do and let's just see what it says and i'll

00:48:42.940 read this to you a cabinet level federal agency created in 1980

00:48:46.840 its main job is to oversee and support education

00:48:51.200 but it does not run public schools it distributes federal funding

00:48:56.080 enforces federal education laws and collects uh research

00:49:02.100 and administer student financial aid so it's a pass-through for a lot of federal

00:49:07.140 dollars and it also in terms of the civil

00:49:11.520 rights stuff with education that's just pure

00:49:13.480 you know dei uh obsessed left-wing policy stuff there's no actual need for any

00:49:22.520 no actual need for any of this um and think about this how how

00:49:27.340 serious could the department of education be about civil rights

00:49:32.440 when they have been unwilling to stop the madness of the

00:49:39.980 gender identity uh disorder stuff going on in all these schools

00:49:45.080 where they have men pretending to be women how can you say you're enforcing

00:49:49.460 title nine when a guy can can say he's a girl and

00:49:53.120 play on women's sports so it's the department of education

00:49:55.540 gotta go hope it goes they're moving in that direction democrats are going to

00:50:00.940 fight because the democrats they get to have

00:50:05.540 policy through uh through agencies

00:50:10.020 and departments even when they lose elections and that's that's

00:50:14.800 one of the incredibly important revelations of the trump era

00:50:19.780 is that if you don't actually deal with this

00:50:24.760 even when we win elections as republicans you end up still with a lot of democrat

00:50:29.740 administration or democrat policy pushed from these places

00:50:34.940 uh now she also spoke caroline levitt also spoke about zoran

00:50:39.480 momdadi meeting with trump tomorrow this is cut 28

00:50:42.320 let's hear it it speaks volumes that tomorrow we have a communist coming to

00:50:48.480 the white house because that's who the democrat party elected as the mayor

00:50:51.760 of the largest city in the country i think it's very telling but i also think it

00:50:55.960 speaks to the fact that president trump is willing to meet with anyone

00:50:58.880 uh and talk to anyone um and to try to do what's right on behalf of the

00:51:03.540 american people whether they live in blue states or red states or blue cities uh

00:51:08.080 in a city that's becoming much more left than i think this president ever

00:51:13.140 anticipated in his many years of living in new york himself

00:51:16.120 you know why they are uh so touchy about the whole communist thing

00:51:24.260 because we all know that there's some truth to it if it were absurd if it weren't really

00:51:32.860 something that bothered them then they wouldn't always say no it's a democratic socialist he's a

00:51:39.240 democratic socialist you know there was the american i guess it still exists but it's kind of a joke

00:51:44.420 now but the american communist party uh grew and in the 1940s i think it was basically about a hundred

00:51:52.060 thousand people uh you know what happened they all became democrats you know what happened to the

00:51:58.020 communist movement in america got folded into the democrat party that's a whole other thing

00:52:01.440 that's a whole other thing uh and there are some great books on this stuff you can read

00:52:07.900 why do they hate nixon so much they really hate nixon so much because he was a staunch anti-communist

00:52:12.920 and he worked to expose that there were a lot of democrats who were willing to play footsie with

00:52:18.280 communists back in the day but i digress on that one i digress uh look i think trump will be as i said

00:52:24.720 before he'll be himself he'll be charming and funny to mom donnie there'll probably be some great lines

00:52:30.420 uh and what what was the thing what did trump say to the i couldn't i i didn't i don't even know who

00:52:38.700 he said it to so i but he was on air force one and some reporter interrupted but he said quiet piggy

00:52:44.120 and the thing about this is it's just the democrats they get so upset about it they're gonna get so

00:52:52.240 angry about it and it just encourages them to do more stuff like that like they're not going to make

00:52:57.580 trump stop being trump they can try they can try to shame his supporters it's not going to work

00:53:03.600 but yeah i'd never see that can you guys pull that to ever i don't know if everyone's heard it do we

00:53:09.760 have it trump saying quiet piggy um i hope it's not ai i don't think it was ai i'm so and now i have to

00:53:19.480 worry about any clip that i see this is the world we're in my friends there's stuff that

00:53:27.100 it can look very real they have programs now that can make trump look like he said things close to

00:53:34.900 what he said but change the words a little bit this is the world that we are in right now so that's why

00:53:41.040 i i'm always like oh gosh i hope that's not ai but i'm pretty sure he's i'm pretty sure he said this one

00:53:45.960 just like i was sure that he's meeting mom donnie tomorrow and he is uh the mom donnie disaster in

00:53:51.540 new york i think is inevitable i hope it's not for new york's sake uh and for my family that are

00:53:57.700 there but i think the mom donnie situation is likely to get really get really bad uh really bad

00:54:05.040 we'll see oh and caroline levin also got into an exchange with a reporter about that military psa

00:54:11.340 can we is it really even a psa it's just kind of an underhanded attack but here she is just cut 29

00:54:19.140 listen to it the president and the vice president for that matter have accused the other side of

00:54:25.200 encouraging political violence isn't that exactly what the president is doing when he says that

00:54:30.380 members of congress should be killed why aren't you talking about what these members of congress are

00:54:34.720 doing to encourage and incite violence they are literally saying to 1.3 million active duty service

00:54:40.880 members not to defy to defy the chain of command not to follow lawful orders every single

00:54:47.420 but they're suggesting they're suggesting nancy that the president has given illegal orders which

00:54:55.640 he has not every single order that is given to this united states military by this commander-in-chief

00:55:00.880 and through this command chain of command through the secretary of war is lawful and the courts have

00:55:05.740 proven that this administration has an unparalleled record at the supreme court because we

00:55:10.500 are following the laws we don't defy court orders we do things by the books and to to suggest and

00:55:17.420 encourage that active duty service members defy the chain of command is a very dangerous thing for

00:55:22.880 sitting members of congress to do and they should be held accountable and that's what the president

00:55:26.620 wants to see he's not messing around and i think it just based on the number of you who are veterans

00:55:34.720 yourselves or even active duty but veterans who have written in very unhappy with this this psa uh

00:55:42.320 it's it's meant to be it's meant to undermine the commander-in-chief let's just be honest it's meant to

00:55:47.880 undermine the commander-in-chief that is what they are doing uh and it it just goes with everything else

00:55:54.100 they they have to tell stories fables to themselves to justify their trump derangement and and that's

00:56:01.260 yet another another example of it all right christmas is five weeks is that right five weeks

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