Border Czar Tom Homan - Exclusive One on One
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Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas) sits down with Tom Homan (D-VA) to discuss the Trump administration's efforts to secure the southern border and remove dangerous illegal aliens. Homan is the former acting director of the U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE), and he has been Border Czar since Trump resumed office as president.
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Welcome. It is Verdict with Senator Ted Cruz, Ben Ferguson with you, Senator.
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One of the best things about getting to do this show is having on brilliant minds
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from within the administration who get to talk directly to the American people.
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And today we get to have another very special guest.
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A good friend of yours, the Border Czar, is joining us, and I'll let you take it from there.
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Well, Tom Homan is serving as President Trump's Border Czar.
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He is the former acting director of the U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement.
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And he has been Border Czar since Trump resumed office as president.
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His formal title, which I like, is White House Executive Associate Director of Enforcement and Removal Operations.
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And to be clear, his job is to secure the border, keep us safe, and remove dangerous illegal aliens.
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He's doing a hell of a job. Tom, welcome to Verdict.
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We're four months in, almost five months into the Trump presidency.
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How are we doing? Tell us what has happened since President Trump became president again on the border.
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Well, President Trump, today, where I'm talking to you today, Senator Cruz,
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is we have the most secure border in the history of this nation today.
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Well, we handed the Biden administration the most secure border we ever had at that time.
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And let me give you a few numbers, just a few numbers.
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Under the Biden administration, we were dealing with 10,000, 11,000, even a few times, 15,000 aliens a day.
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Gotaways under Biden, an average gotaway day under Biden was 1,800 plus.
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And the most impressive number, the first 100 days on President Trump, compared to the same time period last year under Biden,
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Biden released over 184,000 illegal aliens in this country.
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There was nine releases, but four more material witnesses.
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As you know, we want them to come here and testify in a cartel trial.
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Four, it came across the border in such bad shape that we had to call an ambulance and take care of the medical needs.
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We had to allow them and decided to do medical treatment.
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But we had one, one discretionary release compared to 184,000 released under the same time period during Biden.
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ISIS arrested three times more criminals than Biden did during the same time period.
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But they're already hitting the ball out of the park, and we're going to keep doing it.
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We need to do more of it, and we're hoping for a budget real soon here so we can step up efforts there.
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President Trump's been a game-changer, and the men and women vice and men and women board of charge stood up, took on the task.
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And President Trump did in seven weeks, but Joe Biden couldn't or wouldn't do in four years.
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My favorite line from President Trump's most recent State of the Union address is when he said, you know, Joe Biden stood here a year ago and said that he couldn't secure the border without new legislation passing Congress.
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And then Trump said, it turns out we didn't need new legislation.
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So let me ask just a simple question for those – look, you're an immigration expert, but for someone at home, how did the numbers drop so precipitously?
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What specifically are y'all doing differently than what Joe Biden and Kamala Harris did?
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The biggest thing we've done is the president's executive orders were a game-changer.
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Have the third state country agreement, a game-changer.
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People know you come to our border now, you're not being released.
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And we just follow the law because, as you know, under federal statute, an alien arrives at our border without proper documentation to enter.
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Not maybe, not think about it, not parole them, shall.
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Those three things, by themselves, have been a major game-changer.
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And all three of them were executive orders by President Trump.
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You mentioned budget a moment ago and how important it is to have the budget for you guys to continue your job.
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Explain for everyone listening, is that referencing the big, beautiful bill?
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And what is in there that you need so much to continue to do your job at the border?
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Well, we want to make the border secure permanently, so we need more infrastructure, right?
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Every place they build a border barrier, illegal migrations went down, illegal drug flow went down.
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Women and children can't get over that wall, the most vulnerable.
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So they go to a place where there's not a wall.
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The men and women of the border patrol, first of all.
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We need money to finish the technology within the existing border wall.
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Because not only did President Biden stop the construction of the wall, he stopped adding the technology in that smart wall.
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Technology that lets us know when someone climbs that wall, touches the wall, dig under that wall.
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Technology where border patrol agents in the middle of nowhere can get on a radio and use a wall as a repeater to talk to other agents for help.
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There are some places on the southern border where they lose all communication.
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So all that technology needs to be done, more technology at port of entry to make sure no fentanyl is coming through.
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And as far as the interior enforcement, we need beds.
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Right now we've got about 52,000 people in detention.
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We just don't arrest somebody in New York City and put them on a plane to leave.
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We've got to detain them for several days to several weeks to get travel documents, get flight arrangements, flight cleansers.
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So we need, you know, so this budget, the pending budget right now, the big beautiful bill, will give us money for those beds.
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They're going to give us thousands of more border agents, thousands of more ICE agents.
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It's going to give ICE a budget to bring in more contracts up.
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Badges and guns shouldn't be sitting at a desk doing reports of processing.
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They shouldn't be sitting at a desk doing travel documents and all the administrative duties that occur within ICE.
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You can have a contractor sitting there doing that work, give that badge and gun, get them out on the street to arrest the public safety threats and national security threats.
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Like I said, we're doing more than Biden did, but Biden wasn't doing anything.
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We need to do ten times more than Biden did, not three times more.
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We've got 700,000 illegal aliens in this country with a criminal conviction walking the streets of this country.
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We've got 1.4 million illegal aliens who had due process at great taxpayer expense, were ordered removed by a federal judge, and didn't leave, and they become fugitives.
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We've got a lot of work to do, and we need money to do more.
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We're doing good, but the more money we have, the more we can do.
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Well, and Ben, I'll say this, that Congress, we will get this reconciliation bill passed.
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It's going to be bumpy, but we'll get it done, and when we get it done, we're going to have funding to build the wall.
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We're going to have funding for technology on the wall.
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We're going to have funding for more Border Patrol agents.
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We're going to have funding for more ICE agents.
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We're going to have funding for more detention beds.
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We're going to have funding for more fixed-wing and rotary-wing aircraft.
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We're going to have funding for more drones and more infrared and technology.
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we are stepping in now it's going to take a little bit of time to get the bill across
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across the finish line but i'm confident we'll do it and and i will say it really underscores
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something we've said on verdict many times which is the most important factor in securing the
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border and this is what tom said just a minute ago it is a policy decision and it is a decision
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what happens when you apprehend an illegal immigrant and if the answer is
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you put them on a plane and you fly them back home they all have cell phones they pick up their
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phones and they call home and they say don't come they're not letting you stay and the flip side is
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true if if when you apprehend them you let them go you say what city do you want to go to and you put
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them on a plane you put them on a bus and you let them go in every city in america which is what joe
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biden was doing again they all have phones they pick up the phone they call their friends and family
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and the numbers skyrocket and so when president trump left office the first time he had produced
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the lowest rate of illegal immigration in 45 years that's what joe biden inherited it immediately
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skyrocketed to the worst rate of illegal immigration in history joe biden allowed 12 million of the
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illegal immigrants to come into this country and and regular listeners of verdict will recall i predicted i
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said we will see the numbers plummet and it won't take a year it won't even take six months it will
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happen immediately because on day one catch and release is going to end and we're going to see the
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numbers plummet now all that being said tom let me ask you honestly i will admit i i predicted loudly
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that the numbers would plummet i'll confess i didn't think they'd drop over 99 percent or are you
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i'm surprised at just how massive the success is are you are you a little bit surprised or no
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i'm i'm not surprised about success i'm surprised how fast that happened when president trump when
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he called me asked me to be the borders are of course i didn't hesitate i came back and the first
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meeting he had he asked me how long would it take you down to secure the border i said sir i need i need
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at least 120 days he says well look at the 90s sir how to respect 120 days even pushing that we did
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this in seven weeks seven weeks numbers already down yep and uh and you're exactly right everything
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you said was right but i want to add one thing when joe biden opened that border up he's the first
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president in the history of this nation who came into office and unsecured a border on purpose this
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wasn't mismanagement this wasn't incompetence he ran on open borders and that's exactly what he did
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you know so when you tell the whole world you can enter this country legally don't worry about it
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we're going to release you anyways and when you got a secretary of my orchestra on ice you can't
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arrest somebody for being here legally unless they got a serious criminal conviction the whole world's
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going to come you can cross the border illegally you get released in 24 hours we won't give you a
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free plane ticket to the city of your choice we're going to put you in a free hotel room we're going
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to give you three meals a day we're going to give you free medical attention and guess what hang out
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for 120 days we're going to give you a work authorization the very reason they came right
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not because of asylum because they wanted a job so biden did what he did on purpose and president
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trump came back in seven weeks again seven weeks did what joe biden couldn't do or wouldn't do
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repeat the numbers you said about how many illegals are in the u.s right now who have criminal convictions
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and to be clear these are convictions for crimes other than crossing illegal into the country
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every illegal has committed that crime but but but how many have convictions for murder for rape
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for other crimes other than crossing the border illegally just under 700 000 i mean that is a stunning
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number and and and and what you're saying and i agree with you is is that joe biden deliberately
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chose we're going to leave murderers here we're going to leave rapists in america we're going to leave
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child molesters in america we're not going to send ice to arrest them we're not going to pick them up
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we're not going to deport them that that they put partisan politics above protecting uh american
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families about protecting our kids and that's why i woke up every four years pissed off every morning
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president trump when he called me asked me to come back and he said to me we've been you've been
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bitching about for four years want to come back and fix it and i did because i knew every morning i wake
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up in center you know this just as well as i do i knew every morning when i woke up how many children
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died crossing the border last night yeah how many women got sexually assaulted how many people on
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terrorist watches got across the border how many women and children were sex trafficking this country
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how many billions of dollars in the cartels make how many americans died in the last 24 hours from
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fentanyl coming across the open border for four years i was pissed off president trump came back
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like i said in seven weeks we had a border down 90 percent seven weeks so you know just like you
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said it was a matter of president a matter of enforcement law you know i'll tell you senator
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cruising and you know every time i see you in a meeting every every time i see you in a meeting i
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call you out i call you out because you've been the tip of the spear on this thing i appreciate
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your work in this you're from texas you know and god bless governor abbott and governor abbott did
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he was more of a secretary of homeland security mark has ever been or ever thought of being
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so god bless state of texas they took the they took the first rail on this and again i i can't
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thank you enough every time i see i call you out thank you for being being the tip of the spear
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i see you everywhere wanting to secure border and you're fighting hard for me and you're fighting
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hard for the men and women of the border so you're fighting hard hard for the men and women of ice i
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love each and every one of those men to put their lives on the line for this country every day men and
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women and i appreciate your fight for them you've had their six from day one and i love you for it i
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appreciate it well tom let me thank you for that i i appreciate that and i appreciate your passion
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and commitment you were you're showing up and you said something that i think is really important for
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our listeners to understand you and president trump right now are quite literally saving lives you are
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saving lives there are americans and there are significant number of americans who are alive today
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because a violent criminal did not cross the border was not released and didn't murder them there are
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women who have not been raped because you've stopped the biden practice of releasing rapists there are
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children and and the number of children who haven't been physically and sexually assaulted by human
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traffickers it is already i think well into the thousands and i want you to think about that
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thousands of little girls thousands of little boys have not been violently repeatedly raped by human
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traffickers why because president trump came in and because you've been the borders are implementing it
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and secured the border and those kids are no longer being trafficked that is a profound legacy
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in in just four or five months and let me go one step further uh trump asked me to do three things
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secure the border one of the largest deportation officers ever seen and find these children
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the biden administration over half a million children were uh... were smuggled in this country
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separated from their families smuggled in this country and put in the hands of sponsors
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many unvetted sponsors the last administration lost track of 300,000 of them
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president trump's committed to finding as many as he can
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some of them were perfectly safe with families some were perfectly safe and some weren't
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example just there for yesterday a 14 year old little girl
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already into sex traffic was pregnant living with two men who were trafficking there
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well they're going to prison and we're helping that little girl so
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we're going to rescue every one of these little girls and
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and and and make sure that they're safe because many of them are going to be okay with family members
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they just didn't respond to call-ins or so forth
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but many of them i guarantee i've been doing this for over 40 years
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many of them are in sex trafficking many of them are in forced labor
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we're committed to find every one of these little children and making sure they're safe
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tom you mentioned finding them all let's talk about sanctuary cities for a second
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it's very clear democrats are not backing off of that
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how dangerous is the policy and and and who is being harbored
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in these cities that are refusing to work with you guys
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will there be accountability are they harboring uh ms 13 gang members and and domestic terrorists
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foreign terrorists uh those that are putting the fentanyl out in society how dangerous are these cities
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well they're dangerous they're dangerous for everybody because in a sanctuary city means i don't have access to jail
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arrest a bad guy public safety threat in the safety and security of a jail
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were the aliens safe the officers safe on the public safe
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when sanctuary cities knowingly release a public safety uh a threat back in the street it certainly
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puts the community at risk it even puts the alien at risk because anything can happen during a street arrest
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and a great it puts the officers at great risk because now we got arrested a criminal alien public safety
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threat on his turf we have access to who knows what weapons it's very dangerous and yes we'll hold
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sanctuary cities accountable it's pan bonnie's already filed lawsuits against several uh we're uh we're
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we're working with doj now again we we want we want where's that bright where's that where's that line
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when do you cross that line you can sit there and watch ice do your job because here's what irritates
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me the most i don't care what party you're in if you're an elected mayor elected city council person
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or elected governor your number one responsibility is the safety and security of your neighborhoods your
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communities ice has been clear from the beginning with president trump we're going to prioritize
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public safety threats and national security threats why will you not help us make your
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community safer there's no downside on that and sanctuary cities want to argue well we're a
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sanctuary city because we want victims and witnesses of crime if they're illegally in the united states
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to feel comfortable coming to the law enforcement without fear of working with us that is a bunch of
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crap victims and witnesses of crime don't want the bad guy in the neighborhood either and as far as
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illegal alien community i'll say this despite being here illegally many of them are god-fearing
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family people they don't want a predator made neighborhood either they don't want someone
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convicted doi 10 times driving to their neighborhood either so you know if you go to the immigrant
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community and ask one simple question would you rather have ice operating in the jail or in your
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community what do you think they're going to say they're going to say the jail so sanctuary cities
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will be held accountable matter of fact we're reissuing the ice detainer we just changed the new ice detainer
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we're letting them black and white let them know this person is a designated terrorist this person is a
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designated return felon we're going to let them know exactly who they're detaining based on biographic
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and biometric information and see what they do are they going to violate lake or lake and riley act
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then then we'll go out to prosecution are they going to know any release of terrorists then we're
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going to go out to prosecution so it's about to get a lot tougher and it's the right thing to do
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well and let me ask you how worried are you that there are terrorists who came across the southern
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border in the last four years that that are out there and that are planning acts of terror in the
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united states right now i'm convinced we got over two million known gotaways why did two million people
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pay more to get away they you pay the cartels a lot more money to escape apprehension and get to
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new york and chicago weber why didn't they pay less why would you pay more to get away because you
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don't want to be vetted you don't want to be fingerprinted this just scared the hell out of
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every american scares the hell out of me somebody's going to be you know child traffickers some of
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these are carrying fentanyl and some of these are going to be people from a terrorist sponsored
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country under joe biden we wrestle over 400 people on terrorist watches coming to southwest border
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if you don't think a single one of the two million gotaways didn't come from a country sponsoring terror
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didn't come here to do us harm then you're just crazy as you know it was uh what was it just a
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few months ago we arrested eight that were planning a terrorist attack a russian-type terrorist attack
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in the united states luckily they tell us the community call them on some chat and we are able to
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arrest them but we're not perfect the intelligence community isn't perfect they weren't perfect in
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afghanistan they weren't perfect on a lot of things so god help us i think they're here i just
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intelligence reports saying they're here we know where some are and being monitored but we don't
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know where others are so that scares the hell out of me well and as you know chris ray the former
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director of the fbi every few months would come to congress and and he would do everything but set
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off an alarm and bang a drum to say we are at major risk of a terrorist attack from the open borders
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hamas and hezbollah have declared jihads on america as you know as you know the border patrol under joe
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biden advised was advised beyond on the lookout for hamas hezbollah and palestinian islamic jihad
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terrorists coming across the southern border and and one of the things tom you said that was really
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important of the 12 million illegal immigrants that came under joe biden roughly two million of those
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were gotaways that's by far the most troubling of all those folks the other 10 million are people
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who are apprehended and and apprehended in many instances is the wrong term because as you know and
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i've spent a lot of time down on the southern border i i almost always go out on midnight patrol
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with the border patrol agents when i'm there apprehended doesn't even characterize what they
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were doing most nights people would cross the border and they'd go look for a border patrol agent and
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actively turn themselves in because the result would be that that joe biden would say where do you want
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to go and would fly them to wherever they wanted to be literally the biden administration was the last
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mile of the human trafficking network but tom what you said is exactly right those two million gotaways
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are much more likely to be violent criminals much more likely to be murderers or rapists or child
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molesters much more likely to be ms-13 gang members much more likely to be terrorists and that's the
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population that is is most worrisome and and speaking of ms-13 gang members just when i thought
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politics could not get weirder the democrats have decided to go all in making their central party
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platform be that we should admit more illegal aliens and in particular we want more venezuelan
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gang members ms-13 gang members here and and they've decided that kilmar abrego garcia is their poster
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child for the democrat party tom how confident tell us about abrego garcia how confident are you that
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that that he's a gang member that he's a criminal i'm very confident and uh i've talked to the head
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of vice numerous times people understand so he got no due process yes he did he got due process from
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two different uh federal judges who said he's a legal united states a citizen of salvador and he gave
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an order of deportation he had a great due process a great taxpayer expense on top of that men and women
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of ice and they sent those two plane loads of tda and ms-13 hundreds and hundreds of hours were spent
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on every case they went through the criminal history the immigration history they went to
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intelligence report they went to confidential informant statements they went to wiretaps
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they went they went to a bunch of stuff to to to certify these people were members of tda and ms-13
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so they got due process several times bro brego garcia's home he's a citizen of salvador and for
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though the democrats say well they made a mistake i still say it was a mistake it was an oversight a
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temporary oversight here's the problem he had a withholding order he'd not be returned to el
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salvador because he feared death from the gang two things have changed since that uh order was given
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number one he's a designated terror so that withholding order has been set aside number two the gang he
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feared it no longer exists in el salvador because the great work president bukele did there so the
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circumstances around that withholding order are no longer valid and here's what would happen if
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somebody was a make this guy return to the united states he would be detained and removed the next day
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if not to el salvador to another country he's not here but as president bukele said he's a certified
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national of el salvador he is home he is home he is a certified ms-13 member not just
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by ice by local police departments intelligence reports immigration judges in the country of al
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salvador says he's a ms-13 member he's home he's exactly where he should be this country his wife
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his neighborhood is a lot safer because he's locked up i want to go back to accountability for a second
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time i want to ask you there are a lot of people that believe that there were laws that were broken
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deliberately in the last administration they knew they were breaking the law one of those would be
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former homeland security secretary mayorkas that you mentioned a moment ago should he be criminally
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prosecuted for his role in the border crisis if it was as deliberate as it now seems
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look i think what he did was borderline treasonous i'm not an attorney i'm not a prosecutor
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but what he did he did more damage to this country him in the by the administration what they did to this
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country i can tell you when they opened that border up sex trafficking women should increase
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tenfold uh a record number of migrants died making that journey over 4 000 a record number of americans
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died from fat and all that come across that open border and then and it's just what he what he calls this
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country and from a national security perspective because here's what his orders were
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process quick release quick they didn't care about the crisis they cared about the optics of the
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crisis if there's no overcrowding there's nothing to see here so border trades were processing as
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quick as they could and releasing as quick as they could and there's been several instances where they
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released so quickly the fbi scan didn't come back and and it came back hot after they already been
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released they came back hot as a known inspector terrorist so yeah he what he did was unconscionable
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what he did is by my opinion borderline treasonous he should be held accountable because a lot of
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deaths occurred under his watch and like it like like senator cruz said a few minutes ago right now
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96 percent decline in illegal immigration when 96 percent less people are coming how many women
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aren't being raped how many children aren't dying crossing that border how many no inspector terrorists
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aren't getting in the country how many pounds of fentanyl is not getting in the country what you're
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going to see on the president trump's administration fentanyl deaths will decrease sex trafficking
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would decrease smuggling would decrease and no inspector terrorists they got no open net anymore
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now that we got the board secure every single border agent is on the line on patrol doing his
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national security duty under joe biden it was an average most days an average 70 percent seven zero
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70 percent of agents were no longer on patrol they were changing diapers making baby formula making
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hospital runs the last time i went down there before the election i talked to hundreds of board
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stations told me hang on hang on change is coming i really think president trump's gonna win
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but they told me no we're sick of being tourist stations we're sick of being uber drivers we
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process and deliver these people to the very same people who pay for their smuggling they couldn't
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recruit they couldn't people were quitting they were quitting before they even eligible for
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retirement they couldn't read the recruiting numbers you know last month ice i'm excuse me
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board patrol had the highest recruiting numbers and the history of that agency just last month
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that's fantastic and and look i i will say tom is not exaggerating at all like when i would visit
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with border patrol agents the frustration look the men and women who sign up for the border patrol they do
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do so because they're patriots they do so because they love america they do so because they want to
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keep our our communities and our families and our kids safe and and they want to be out on patrol look
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these that's what you sign up in the job and they were sitting there just shuffling paperwork they were
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processing and and just running a revolving door to try to release as many illegal immigrants as fast as
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possible that's what mayorkas looked viewed his job is accelerate illegal immigration not stop it
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but but make it go more quickly let me ask you tom you mentioned fentanyl what do we know about the
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numbers of of fentanyl traffic over the first four months of the trump administration there's been a
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decrease in and i've got from three or four different sources the percentage decrease is different from
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every source the problem is the cdc doesn't have good metrics on fentanyl but look across the country you
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see the decrease in fentanyl fentanyl is being seized on the southern border uh and it's the metrics and
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that's maybe something we y'all can work on up there in the senate uh cdc needs to track this more
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more more more accurately like i said you got you got a number of deaths reported by states you got a
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number of deaths reported by cdc none of them match so uh but we do know there's been a reduction you
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we don't see you know 300 people dying every day from fentanyl like we did that did see right we
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know we don't have two you know 9-11s a week happening from kids dying from fentanyl so i don't
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have the exact numbers but we already see the effects of a secure border and tom let me ask you also so
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one of the things we've talked about on this podcast in in 2018 the mexican drug cartels made
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roughly 500 million dollars from human trafficking last year the drug cartels made over 13 billion
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dollars from human trafficking that's a 2600 percent increase do we have any data yet do you
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have any visibility on what has happened uh to the drug cartels revenue because one of the worst
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consequences of what biden's open border did is is it turned these vicious murderous transnational
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criminal organizations into incredibly wealthy powerhouses and it put huge resources in their
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pockets did you have any data on what's happened to their revenues well one of the first best thing
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president trump did was designated terrorist organization because these cartels have killed
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more americans yeah every terrorist organization in the world combined we knew that that's why there's
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so much violence in mexico the last four years cartels were fighting each other for control of the
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plazas why because they're making record amounts of money smuggling people record amount of money in
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trafficking women and children and a record amount of money moving dope across that border now with
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the border secure we're hitting them where it hurts smuggling's down both drugs and people trafficking
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down so we're hitting where it hurts that's why the latest intelligence force i see they're trying to
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produce and push more fentanyl into asian european nations because their market here in united states
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have been so brutally attacked um i wish what would happen is that mexico would agree with president
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trump to let us help them take the cartels and wipe them off the face of the earth because right now
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they're like the the legal cartel they're in 44 countries around the globe they're like a fortune 500
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company it's going to take the united states to take them out mexico's failed for decades to do it
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and a lot of mexico you know that military police and government officials are corrupt i'll say this a lot of
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corruption is forced corruption because you're a police officer in mexico you're making you know
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four hundred dollars a month but a mexican cartel comes up and obviously 10 000 look the other way
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and you're going to take it or they're going to kill you and your family i think mexico will be a much
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safer a much prosperous more prosperous country if you let president trump help them wipe the cartels
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off the face of the earth look that that is absolutely right let me underscore that point
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a lot of people don't realize particularly those on the left that that what what joe biden the
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democrats did it wasn't just horribly cruel to the american people it was horribly cruel to to mexican
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nationals in mexico turning these vicious criminals into the most powerful economic force in mexico
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has increased the murder rate the crime rate the kidnapping rape rate i i visited with with a mexican
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mayor of a town on the other side of the border and i'm not going to say which mayor because he told me
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in confidence because he was afraid but but he said in his town they had had over three
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thousand disappearances just people mexican nationals living in mexico who just ran afoul of
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the cartel and they just disappear and they find mass graves and and the suffering and murder and
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kidnapping that that that that has happened in mexico because of the democrats political decision i think
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was cruel and and horrible and and and tom you're exactly right that that the u.s military can take
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out the cartels and we've done it before in colombia president uribe asked the military to come in and
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take out the cartels in colombia and we came in and did that and we could do it again and and and i do
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think it would be much better if the mexican government invited us in it it would have transformational
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impact within mexico yeah let's save a lot of lives like say mexican cartels have killed thousands
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of judges and prosecutors and journalists yeah and citizens so um you know i i wish they i wish
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they'd join with president trump because that would be a game changer uh for mexico and the united states
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all right final question uh we saw just this week that that new jersey democrat congresswoman
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lamonica mckiver uh was charged for assaulting law enforcement at an ice facility uh tell me tell
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us how important that is and and what do you think about about the fact that that charges were brought
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for assault we saw during the biden administration repeatedly uh law enforcement customs border patrol
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ice agents were subject to physical assault no charges were brought uh how important is it that
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these charges were brought the sons of strong matches is very important it also proves i don't
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bluff i'd said from the day of inauguration if you want to not support ice we'll shame on you but
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you have that right if you want to protest against ice and to protest against trump's policies that's
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fine if you want to watch ice come in and clean your city up because your sanctuary city don't want
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to help you can do that too but i said from day one you can't cross that line you can't cross the
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line on impediment that's a felony you can't cross the line on noiling and harboring concealing of
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able to go and as much that's a felony you certainly can't commit criminal trespasses at our at our
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facilities and for god's sakes you can't put hands on our officers and this happened during the same
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time frame the same week i went to blue mass in washington dc in remembrance of the men and women
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of law enforcement put their lives on the line for this country every day so we spent a week don't know
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just just just praising these men and women talking to their families who also paid the
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ultimate sacrifice for they lost a loved one forever children lost their fathers and mothers
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and mothers fathers lost their sons and daughters and the same week we're supposed to be honoring
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law enforcement you got you got some of the member congress put their hands and shoving an ice
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officer which makes that facility very unsafe and i'm sick and tired of hearing well we have
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congressional oversight responsibilities there is a right way and wrong way to do it
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you don't force your way in the facility you don't put hands on an officer
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there's we do oversight all the time and what are they finding out as people are getting tours
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that facility that they have the highest detention standards in the industry and it puts every every
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other a uh uh uh detention center in jail in the state of new jersey whether it's a county or state
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it puts them to shame because our detention standards are so high so when you go and cause that kind of
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practice well we're trying to maintain a facility with very dangerous people inside yeah we got
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to protect not only the criminals we got to protect the employees and the citizens on the outside
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what she did was just horrendous i she she put hands on an officer like they said for four years
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no one's above the law you're damn right they're not above the law even members of congress the
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president is above the law but these are members of congress look amen and i will say tom i've visited
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dozens of ice facilities and cvp facilities i've never found it difficult to refrain from physical
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assault on an officer somehow that temptation was never there for me and and in fact for the opposite
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it is my job to have their backs that's a job i take incredibly seriously and i just want to say tom
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you are a patriot you are a great american we have roughly a million unique listeners who listen to
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verdict and i want to say on on behalf of of all of them and on behalf of 31 million texans thank you
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for what you are doing you are keeping my children safer and tom i am grateful you are on that front
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line for us and you and president trump are making a massive difference for the entire country
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well i appreciate that but i'm not going to take credit please give the thanks for your listeners
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you see a board association yes yes just say thank you because i cannot believe they hate their
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we knew they're going to take hate as soon as president trump got back in but say thank you
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because these men and women they're mothers and fathers too they don't hang their heart on a hook
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at home when they go to work they see a lot of terrible things they put the life on the line
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two at three o'clock this morning when everybody is sleeping me and sender is sleeping at 3 a.m this
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morning there's board station standing on a dirt trail someplace going to take something on they
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don't know if it's just an illegal alien or heavily armed drug smoker they're going to take it on
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and their nearest back was miles away god bless the men and women of the board show god bless the
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