Civil Liberties Under Attack
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Ted Cruz is back with a new episode of Verdict with Ted Cruz on the Michael Flynn exoneration and the ongoing investigation into the former National Security Adviser, Michael Flynn. Ted explains how the FBI set him up, and how the Obama administration conspired with the DOJ to get him exonerated.
Transcript
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With all the Obamagate spying and due process under attack and the endless lockdowns,
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Senator, the last time that we spoke, the biggest story of the day was the exoneration
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of Michael Flynn, President Trump's first national security advisor.
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But thankfully, the case was being dismissed until I just read a headline that the judge
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is not letting go of the case, even though the prosecution said that they were pulling
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Can you explain to me how that's even possible?
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This federal judge, we've seen too many judges on the bench behaving like they're members
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of the resistance and signing up to really the partisan objective of attacking the president
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Listen, everything about this Michael Flynn investigation and prosecution stinks from the
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And what has come public in the last couple of weeks is stunning.
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What we now know is, number one, Attorney General Bill Barr, when he came in, assigned a U.S.
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attorney who is a longtime experienced veteran with the FBI and the Department of Justice to
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go and invest, go look at this case and make sure nothing untoward happened.
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And he went and investigated, and they were horrified by what they found.
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They found that the FBI agents going after Michael Flynn, number one, the FBI was going
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to dismiss the case because they didn't have any evidence.
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And then Peter Strzok, who we've seen is a rabidly partisan Trump hater, stopped it from
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being closed and said how lucky they were that their incompetence, that's his word, was such
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And they decided, all right, let's go interview him and see if we can somehow entrap him in
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a lie in order to, and this is the FBI's own notes, get him fired.
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Why are they trying to get the national security advisor for the newly elected president fired?
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And by the way, James Comey bragged, the old FBI director bragged in an interview how essentially
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he suckered General Flynn, who's a decorated three-star general, by the way, who spent his
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They suckered General Flynn into this interview where they said, oh, you don't need a lawyer.
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You don't need to tell the White House counsel about it.
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And actually, Comey said something to the effect of, you know, a White House that knew
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what they were doing would never have fallen for this.
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Of course, they did this right after Trump was elected, right when they're getting started,
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What's come out in this last week are two things that are beyond stunning.
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One, we know that there was a January 5th meeting in the White House with President Obama,
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that President Obama was directly part of the meeting where it was discussed with senior
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They were targeting the national security advisor for the incoming president.
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Not only that, we know that Joe Biden was at that meeting and stunningly that Joe Biden
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personally directed the unmasking of General Flynn.
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Normally, the intelligence reports, the intercepts come around with names blocked out.
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And then on top of that, in the last week of the Obama administration, Susan Rice, the national
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security advisor, sent an email to herself and to the intelligence community saying, under
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the directions of President Obama, and she made this clear, this was coming from Barack Obama
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himself, you may not be able to share certain aspects of national security information concerning
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Like, this has never happened in the history of our country.
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An outgoing administration launching a political investigation, a political persecution, and telling
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all of the deep state bureaucrats, when the new president comes in, he's not your president.
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Just go after him, target him, and trap him, set him up.
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And in more than two centuries of our nation's history, I am not aware of any outgoing administration
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that ever so much has tried to do this to the new administration.
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And so the Department of Justice came in and said, we shouldn't have brought this case.
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Now, here's what happens when the prosecutor does that.
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But this judge apparently has strapped on his little pink hat, and he's decided he's part
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So number one, he issued this call to Amiki, to friends of the court.
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You guys tell me if this prosecution should continue, even though the prosecutors aren't
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And then he appointed another judge, who happens to be a Democratic appointee as well.
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To go assess whether he should charge Michael Flynn with perjury.
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All right, well, let me give you a clue, judge.
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You or your buddy who you've appointed, don't charge anybody with anybody.
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Go read that document that you may have put away a long time ago.
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There are three articles, Article 1, Article 2, and Article 3 that set up our Constitution.
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And of course, all the left-wing partisans don't care because they hate Trump.
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I'm glad you could lay that out because I've had trouble trying to relate.
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You have the Michael Flynn part of it relates to this January 5th meeting, how it relates
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to Susan Rice and Barack Obama, and now Joe Biden, we've learned.
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The mainstream media are denying that Obamagate exists, just like they denied all the rest of
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There have been administrations that didn't like each other before, that shifted from
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But one of the hallmarks of our democratic system, of our constitutional republic, is
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the peaceful transition of power from one party to another.
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We don't go try to prosecute those we disagree with because of political disagreements.
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You know, the closest I can think of is when the Clinton administration was leaving and
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Well, we knew that the Clintons did steal the silverware from the White House residents.
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But the outgoing Clinton White House staff, they did on a number of the keyboards in the
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But they didn't unleash the Department of Justice and the FBI and the intelligence community
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to set up, to entrap, to prosecute, to target the incoming administration, the national security
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advisor, to unleash wiretaps on the incoming administration's campaign, to base it on a
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bogus dossier compiled by the opposing, by, I guess, the outgoing administration's own
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party, paid for by the DNC, paid for by Hillary Clinton.
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The Senate needs to have every one of these clowns that abused their power brought in front
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The entire array of them, the ones that were sitting in that White House, I'm talking James
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Comey, I'm talking Yates, I'm talking Susan Rice, I'm talking Joe Biden, I'm talking Barack
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Obama, every one of them should testify about their weaponizing and politicizing law enforcement
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and the intelligence community to prosecute, target, and wrongfully go after the next, the
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That's right, and it's so corrupt, and even if you're a Trump hater out there, even if
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you're glad, you know, that the outgoing administration was going after the incoming administration,
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all of that, it does come down also to a question of civil liberties, and it's not just being
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attacked by government thugs who are spying on people, we're also seeing this in other
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This was in regard to Betsy DeVos, the education secretary, who said that Betsy DeVos has now
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issued these policies that will protect the accused on college campuses, but the ACLU is
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now going after Betsy DeVos for protecting civil liberties, even though the ACLU is supposed
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So you tweeted out, ACLU moves to delete the C and the L from their name.
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Hereafter, it shall be the ADPU, the American Democratic Party Union.
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They are for all criminal defendants, unless they're Republicans, and they are for all sexual
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assault victims, unless they are accusing Democrats.
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Can you just tell us a little bit about the Betsy DeVos decision, what that means on campus,
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and how on earth the ACLU now opposes civil liberties?
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Let's start with Betsy DeVos, the secretary of education.
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The Obama administration, when it came to college campuses, they really got radicalized, and
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I've spent a lot of my life in law enforcement prosecuting those who commit sexual assault.
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And it is a grotesque evil that should be punished.
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We have where people, an accused is entitled to the presumption of innocence.
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What the Obama Department of Education did is they used the federal education dollars
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to try to coerce, frankly, a bunch of radicals on campuses who were happy to do this anyway,
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into creating these star chambers where if there's an accusation of sexual assault,
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the accused is presumed guilty, and has little or no rights, can't confront their accuser,
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can't even know what the charge is in some cases.
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I mean, it really is, it's Kafkaesque, where you have been charged, we will not inform you
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We will not inform you who's raising the allegations.
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You can't call witnesses in your defense because you don't know what you're charged with,
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That's not just, but in the radical leftist world, it was politically expedient.
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The Department of Education said, no, we're going to follow federal law, and that means
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we're not going to force colleges just to immediately, summarily execute anyone who's
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Instead, there should be a fair fact-fighting proceeding that respects due process.
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Now, in any ordinary circumstance, you take the ACLU.
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ACLU, I disagree with a lot of the things they do, but they were formed to protect civil
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liberties, and in fact, to protect civil liberties of those who have been charged with
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something, those who have been accused with something.
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Many times they're guilty, and if they're guilty, they should be punished, but you're entitled
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The ACLU, like most of the left, Donald Trump has driven them nuts.
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I mean, they're just, they're in straitjackets babbling like Bugs Bunny.
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I mean, they just, they don't make any sense anymore.
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And so, ACLU is to support all criminal defendants.
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If it's mass murders, they've taken it too far.
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But okay, that's at least a coherent position is I'm going to support criminal defendants against
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Show me the ACLU coming in and saying, judge, if the prosecution is dismissing the case,
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you can't become judge, prosecutor, and presumably executioner.
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I don't know if the judge is going to lock him in his own jail cell too.
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Any reasonably coherent ACLU would be standing alongside Michael Flynn.
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But God forbid he's a Republican and worked for Trump.
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On the flip side, you know, they want a virtue signal on sexual assault.
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Where's the ACLU on the allegations against Joe Biden?
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And by the way, you remember the sitting lieutenant governor of Virginia?
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Who had pretty serious allegations of rape against him.
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And so it is at this point so shamelessly partisan that it ought to be possible to defend principles,
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defend the Constitution, defend the Bill of Rights with coherency and fairness.
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Look, when there's a sexual assault allegation, I believe the alleged victim should be treated
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with respect, should be listened to, should the allegations should be treated seriously.
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The accused deserves a presumption of innocence and you should look to the facts.
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That's actually a fair and neutral way to apply it.
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It's not the way these hardcore lefty partisans are treating it.
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We have kangaroo courts on college campuses that are trampling over the due process rights
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of the accused and that for some reason these panels of professors are dealing with one
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Not our criminal justice system, but for some reason these random professors and deans.
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You've got the kangaroo courts at the federal level now trying to continue the persecution
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We're saying, what happened to our civil liberties?
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And I think for most Americans, the way it really affects our lives is we were told 15 days
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We're going to give up some of our civil liberties because obviously there's this epidemic going
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Now, you know, I think a lot of states are being very reasonable about this, reacting to
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Some states, some cities are becoming downright arbitrary in their power grabs.
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They're saying that these power grabs are going to go on indefinitely.
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Or have those places just simply lost our civil liberties?
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One on sexual assault and then one more generally on individual liberty and civil liberties.
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On sexual assault, look, I have argued and won numerous cases dealing with prosecuting and
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in some cases seeking the death penalty for child rapists and those who committed sexual
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I think it needs to be punished very seriously.
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I've also been leading the fight along with New York Democrat Kirsten Gillibrand to change
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the way sexual assault is prosecuted in the military.
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The military, unfortunately, has been a long problem where the decisions, charging decisions
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And the problem is you get conflicts of interest and victims of sexual assault in the military
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don't feel confident to come forward with those allegations.
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So I've long been an advocate of changing the charging decisions from the commanding officer
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So keeping it within the military, but not in the immediate change of command so the prosecutor
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can fairly evaluate the evidence, be credible, and decide whether or not there's sufficient
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The reason I bring that up is all of the virtue signaling lefties.
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He could have changed how sexual assault in the military is prosecuted, and Barack Obama
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That actually would make a difference, and it needs to be done.
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So your second point about individual liberties, we're seeing in any crisis, you remember the
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There's a great scene where Lou, the old broker, says to Charlie Sheen, I'm going to paraphrase
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this and mess this up, but something to the effect of there comes a time in a crisis when
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a man stares into the abyss, and in the abyss is where he finds his character.
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Look, in a time of crisis, you see someone's character.
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And we are seeing the character of these petty authoritarian tyrants who are running around
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You know, just earlier today, I saw a video of a woman in New York, an African-American mom,
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He's, I don't know, maybe three, four years old, young child, walking through the subway,
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and she committed apparently the cardinal sin of she wasn't wearing a mask.
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And she was surrounded by police officers who threw her to the ground, wrestled her to the
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ground, pushed her into, number one, the nasty, dirty subway station floor, which I can't imagine
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anyone laying down, and handcuffed her, and her little son is sitting there watching this.
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You want to talk about, like, okay, and I'm not saying, it's so easy for people to embrace extremes.
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I want to be, respect public safety, but it could have been really different if they
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had given her a mask, if they hadn't, like, you shouldn't be throwing young moms to the
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ground in front of their little kids and handcuffing them for not wearing a mask.
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But these authoritarian tyrants, they believe in government power.
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It's the same numbskulls, different numbskulls, but the same type of numbskulls, who sent in
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bulldozers in California to fill a skate park with sand.
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Like, what, I mean, that video, if you haven't seen it, you ought to watch it.
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And by the way, I think it would be perfectly reasonable for the local officials to have a
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police officer there and say, kids, you guys need to socially distance.
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Don't all gather together, spread apart, and be safe.
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But, you know, look, if a kid wants to go skateboarding, like, it's only malicious tyranny
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And it's the same malicious tyranny that throws a mom on the floor and handcuffs her in front
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And of course, the people who filled that skate park should have known that teenage skateboard
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punks are not exactly known for following the rules.
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So they were obviously going to dig the sand out and go right back to skateboarding.
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And lest I checked it, skateboarders are loners.
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And by the way, for anyone who's sort of young and hip and rebellious, remember it is the lefty
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Dems that are trying to strip away your freedom.
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And by the way, you know, you're in California right now.
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I don't see actually the monitors watching you, although I kind of expect a Skynet drone
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But I got to say, there are a lot of Californians looking to flee, including some pretty prominent
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I, you know, I noticed Elon Musk, was it, is, I mean, he's one of the wealthiest guys,
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He said he's going to move to either Nevada or Texas.
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Are we, should we all just go down to Texas now?
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So, so you're all invited, but there needs to be an entrance exam.
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If you're going to vote for the sort of lefty commies that screwed up California, please
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stay where you are and enjoy what you voted for.
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If you're willing to come for freedom, we would welcome you.
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So Elon Musk, look, his Tesla factory, he wants to open, his workers want to open.
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And by the way, there was a Democratic state legislator who sent out a tweet that was, F-U,
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What on earth is going on that elected officials are tweeting expletives at their constituents?
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These are the same clowns who last week we talked about the elected Democratic judge in
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Dallas that demanded of, of Shelley Luther, the hairdresser, apologize to your elected
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Get off your power trip and, and don't curse at your constituents.
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And so I, I sent out a tweet to, to Elon Musk saying, come to Texas.
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Tesla, um, by the way, I got to say Tesla's, I don't have a Tesla.
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And my girls desperately want us to get a Tesla because, so the coolest thing is on the
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giant TV screen in the middle, I guess there's a button that makes a fart noise from each of
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the seats, which to a nine-year-old and 12-year-old and even to a 49-year-old is really damn funny.
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And you know who also was talking about moving to Texas?
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Now, Joe Rogan, Joe Rogan said, all right, I can't stand it.
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Now, now you and I know Joe had been the number one podcast until, till, till Joe Rogan
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was dethroned by yours truly in this podcast here.
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Well, I, I hope, I hope he didn't take it so hard that he, he realized that, you know,
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And look, Joe Rogan had his flirtation with Bernie Sanders.
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And if he thinks that, that, that big government status are the way to go, then stay where you
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We don't want you, if you want to bring that, that, that, that, that kind of totalitarianism
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But, but if, if this has made you realize, you know, people like to be free, leave me
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It means respect civil liberties, respect freedom.
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If you're willing to stand for freedom, come to Texas.
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And you know, the, the Joe Rogan move and the Elon Musk move are both interesting because
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I know that Joe was a Bernie bro for a while, but he really is a sort of independent thinker.
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You can't always nail them down on one political party or the other.
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And the fact that the, the effect of this government overreach has been to tell people
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who like Elon Musk or like Joe Rogan, who are a little more independent minded, hmm, maybe
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Maybe the left is not, not where your interests are.
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That could have some serious effects for November.
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Obviously there are a lot of, a lot of variables.
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Well, am I remembering right that, that, that Joe Rogan had an episode that he had Elon Musk
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I don't know if he inhaled, but they did both smoke pot.
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So, so I don't know if, if, if maybe there's sort of a libertarian streak that's coming out.
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You and I might have an episode in, in, in which, you know, I was asking you before,
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if you owned a smoking jacket, I can see you pull it out like a Sherlock Holmes pipe or
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That's, I guess that's one thing I could bring from California to Texas.
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Uh, well, we'll have to save that for a future episode.
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Obviously before we go, we got to get to some mailbag questions.
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There are a lot of people who have questions all over the place.
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If you think anything at all about that video that came out of Georgia, the shooting of the,
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uh, man, Ahmaud Arbery by those two guys in the truck.
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This is being on one hand, people are saying that these were crypto Klansmen and it's a modern
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day lynching. On the other hand, people are saying even possibly it was justified. I think
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most people are not taking, uh, either of those extreme positions. What, what is your take?
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Uh, look, I, I, I saw the video, the shooting. I think, I think it's really troubling. Uh, and,
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and so I, I'm glad to see that the prosecution is moving forward based on what I've seen.
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And what happened seems wrong. Now, now look, this whole theme has, uh, of this show, we focused
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on civil liberties. And so the defendants have a right to presumption of innocence. They have a
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right to due process. And so, so, so the trial ought to go forward. They ought to look at what
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the actual evidence is. We don't know all the evidence, but I got to say, you know, anytime you
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have two people driving up in a truck and, and, and shooting an unarmed man, uh, that's really
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problematic. And, and, and certainly with the, the, the, the tragic history of race in our country,
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um, it, it, it raises, uh, it's messed up. So I'm glad that the prosecutors are moving forward
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based on what I've seen. There's certainly enough evidence to move forward, but the process needs to
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play out and, and we need to, to, to find out the truth. That's too reasonable, Senator that has no
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place on Twitter or anywhere else on the internet. You have to have a very extreme position or else you're,
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you're not allowed to voice it on the internet from Vince. Is there any
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legislation planned or being proposed to curtail the suppression of content on social media platforms
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or could, or should this be a private citizen endeavor to sue where needed or where possible?
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All of the above. Yes. As you know, a huge focus of mine has been the power of big tech
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and, and big tech is engaging in censorship. It's a handful of Silicon Valley billionaires who,
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who frankly are, are, are too often petty tyrants and authoritarians themselves. And then they
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feel unchecked. Uh, you know, I, I shared a hearing a number of months ago on, on censorship of big
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tech, where we put up an internal PowerPoint from Google, uh, and it was entitled the good sensor.
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And by the way, that's Google's own term. That's not my term. That's how they entitled it. And they
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described how the internet used to be believe in laissez-faire free speech. Yeah.
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But instead, big tech, they said had made a decision to move towards what they called
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a European style censorship model. And they identified Google, Facebook, YouTube, Twitter
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as the kind of major players. That's exactly right. And, and, and, and I think it is a profound
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threat to democracy. I'll give you a recent example, YouTube, which has been Google and YouTube have
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been the worst offenders, by the way. I mean, Google, they used to have their motto be, uh, do no evil.
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Now I think they've just deleted the first two words. Now their motto is just evil, like they're
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just shameless. Um, you know, Google's gone after Prager university. One of the more absurd
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examples, they, they restricted as adult content Prager use episode on the 10 commandments. You
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really can't make this crap up. The 10 commandments because it discussed murder. I mean, I guess it
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does. Really? Like, like, like, you know, you would think that, that, that, that these techie
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autocrats would actually pause and say, okay, maybe we're beclowning ourselves too much here. Let's
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stop. But YouTube's latest in, in the midst of the pandemic, they said they're going to block and pull
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down any video that disagrees with the health recommendations from the world health organization.
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Now the WHO, as you know, has really disgraced itself by its willingness to be a puppet for the
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communist government in China to repeat Chinese communist lies to repeat in January, the WHO was
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loudly saying that the Chinese lie, there is no human to human transmission of coronavirus. Okay. If
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YouTube followed that, that, that plan, if you were one of the communists, the, the, the Chinese
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physician whistleblowers who heroically stood up against it, stood up and pointed out the coronavirus.
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If you made a video on YouTube, apparently under YouTube's policies, they'd pull you down
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because the WHO says coronavirus cannot pass from person to person. What utter garbage.
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And so we need to do much more to go after big tech. That includes potentially repealing section
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230, the communications decency act, which gives them a special protection from liability that Congress
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has passed. Nobody else gets. I've been leading the edge on that. Uh, it also includes looking at
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antitrust, uh, litigation, uh, or, or, or a case from the department of justice. These are monopolies
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that are abusing their monopoly power. I think we've got to do more. And I think it's a profound
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threat to our democracy. It is. It's an urgent threat. It does happen a lot on YouTube. Maybe
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they'll take this episode down. I don't know. I hope they don't. And if they do, I bet the ACLU
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will be nowhere in sight to defend us. Uh, so much more. No, no, no, no, no, no. The ACLU will be with
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big tech saying, yes, we're all for silencing speech because we are partisan lefties. It really,
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it's sad. I, it's a sad thing to see. That's the ACLU, the ADPU, as you say, that that will be the
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next one. Uh, we'll probably be even further into the upside down by then, but we'll, we'll just have
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