Verdict with Ted Cruz - Climate Activists Go Rogue, Biden Demands Masks & Big Win Over Terrorists Week In Review

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00:00:05.280 Welcome to Verdict Weekend Review.

00:00:07.840 Ben Ferguson with you.

00:00:09.080 And each Saturday, we are going to give you some of the best moments of the Verdict Podcast

00:00:13.840 with Senator Ted Cruz from the past week.

00:00:17.200 This week, there are three points that we want to make sure that you hear about.

00:00:21.300 If you missed it, that's where this Weekend Review will come in.

00:00:25.380 Number one, we're going to be talking about climate change

00:00:27.920 and the new threat of one billion people dying if we don't fix the problem.

00:00:32.220 That's what Democrats are now threatening you with.

00:00:34.960 Also, Joe Biden, do as I say, not as I do, mandating that others wear masks,

00:00:41.160 but he's already taken his off after he promised he was going to wear it.

00:00:44.260 And a huge victory because of Verdict listeners that deals with the issue of 9-11.

00:00:51.520 It is the Weekend Review, and it starts right now.

00:00:55.260 Climate change has become, obviously, an election year issue, at least for the Democrats.

00:01:00.760 You can see it over the last couple weeks.

00:01:02.660 They're kind of testing things.

00:01:04.100 They're really pushing things here.

00:01:06.060 But now we're finding out how academia deceives people about climate change.

00:01:11.560 And this is something that I think is not just disingenuous, but it's really disgusting.

00:01:18.900 They put out a new report that has actually come out,

00:01:22.460 and they say that there's a new prediction

00:01:25.000 that one billion deaths will happen from climate change this century,

00:01:31.960 so you better get on board.

00:01:33.820 Researchers from Canada and Australia have published this new study

00:01:36.960 predicting one billion deaths from climate change over the next hundred years,

00:01:41.060 citing a scientific, quote, consensus.

00:01:43.860 The authors analyze, they say, 180 studies on climate change and mortality,

00:01:47.960 covering on a 1,000-ton rule.

00:01:51.500 So this is a new theory, which means for every 1,000 tons of fossil fuels burn,

00:01:56.400 a person dies.

00:01:57.700 Now, this article was published, and it contends that a future person,

00:02:01.960 a future person is killed every time humanity burns 1,000 tons of fossil carbon.

00:02:08.420 They say, based on that calculation,

00:02:10.280 that burning a trillion tons of fossil carbon will cause 2 degrees Celsius

00:02:15.500 of global warming, or AGW,

00:02:19.480 which in turn, they say, will cause roughly a billion future premature deaths

00:02:23.640 spread over a period of very roughly one century.

00:02:27.380 I wish they used this type of logic when they were talking about unborn children

00:02:31.320 that are killed, but of course they'll never do that. 0.98

00:02:34.060 But this might be the most ridiculous, fear-mongering article, 0.93

00:02:37.240 and they say it's a scientific consensus now. 0.82

00:02:41.560 Well, look, there is an enormous problem with the politicization of science,

00:02:47.340 and particularly when it concerns climate change,

00:02:50.340 the dishonesty of science.

00:02:51.960 I'm going to make a radical claim right now.

00:02:53.980 Now, I predict with absolute certainty that 7 billion people alive today

00:03:00.660 will die in the next 100 years of climate change.

00:03:05.940 Now, mind you, there are a little over 7 billion people alive today,

00:03:09.420 and it is a virtual certainty that all of us will die in the next 100 years.

00:03:15.040 And whether there was climate change or not, that assertion is unquestionably true.

00:03:19.600 It just is utterly disingenuous to claim it's climate change that will cause it.

00:03:26.600 Let me focus on, there was an article that came out on September 5th

00:03:30.980 from a guy named Patrick Brown.

00:03:33.980 Now, Patrick Brown is a PhD climate scientist,

00:03:39.860 and he is the co-director of the Climate and Energy Team at the Breakthrough Institute.

00:03:46.600 And he wrote an article in the Free Press that I think is really consequential.

00:03:51.620 I want to just read from you the beginning of the article.

00:03:54.460 Quote,

00:03:55.500 If you've been reading any news about wildfires this summer,

00:03:59.180 from Canada to Europe to Maui,

00:04:01.700 you will surely get the impression that they are mostly the result of climate change.

00:04:05.600 Here's the AP, quote,

00:04:08.260 Climate change keeps making wildfires and smoke worse.

00:04:11.860 Scientists call it the new abnormal.

00:04:14.700 From PBS NewsHour, quote,

00:04:17.440 Wildfires driven by climate change are on the rise.

00:04:21.240 Spain must do more to prepare, experts say.

00:04:24.360 And from the New York Times,

00:04:26.560 How climate change turned lush Hawaii into a tinderbox.

00:04:32.380 And from Bloomberg, quote,

00:04:34.440 Maui fires show climate change's ugly reach.

00:04:38.840 Now, here's Dr. Brown continuing from this.

00:04:42.140 Quote,

00:04:42.940 I am a climate scientist.

00:04:45.480 And while climate change is an important factor affecting wildfires

00:04:49.320 over many parts of the world,

00:04:51.600 it isn't close to the only factor that deserves our sole focus.

00:04:55.660 So why does the press focus so intently on climate change as the root cause?

00:05:00.280 Perhaps for the same reasons I just did

00:05:03.340 in an academic paper about wildfires in Nature,

00:05:08.940 one of the world's most prestigious journals.

00:05:12.440 It fits a simple storyline that rewards the person telling it.

00:05:18.060 The paper I just published,

00:05:20.060 climate warming increases extreme daily wildfire growth risk in California,

00:05:26.560 focuses exclusively on how climate change has affected extreme wildfire behavior.

00:05:32.060 I knew not to try to quantify key aspects other than climate change in my research

00:05:39.080 because it would dilute the story that prestigious journals like Nature

00:05:43.380 and its rival Science want to tell.

00:05:46.700 This matters because it is critically important for scientists to be published in high-profile journals.

00:05:52.020 In many ways, they are the gatekeepers for career success in academia.

00:05:57.120 And the editors of these journals have made it abundantly clear,

00:06:01.940 both by what they publish and what they reject,

00:06:05.380 that they want climate papers that support certain pre-approved narratives,

00:06:10.640 even when those narratives come at the expense of broader knowledge for society.

00:06:15.700 To put it bluntly,

00:06:19.480 climate science has become less about understanding the complexities of the world

00:06:24.340 and more about serving as a kind of Cassandra, 0.98

00:06:29.620 urgently warning the public about the dangers of climate change.

00:06:33.880 However understandable this instinct may be,

00:06:37.080 it distorts a great deal of climate science research,

00:06:41.840 misinforms the public,

00:06:42.920 and most importantly makes practical solutions more difficult to achieve.

00:06:51.020 This is a stunning indictment of the machinery and apparatus around quote-unquote science today.

00:07:03.180 The journals publish quote-unquote research

00:07:06.780 that echoes the pre-approved political orthodoxy they want

00:07:12.020 published.

00:07:13.420 And if you don't echo that,

00:07:14.940 they don't publish you.

00:07:16.420 And it is one of the many really corrupt aspects

00:07:21.240 of how science and climate change reporting

00:07:25.020 and academic work

00:07:26.440 is really doing a disservice to the American people.

00:07:31.120 When you look at not only the fact that this is how you get the money,

00:07:34.700 and I do think it's an issue of follow the money as you just described,

00:07:37.280 but certainly it's an indoctrination on college campuses

00:07:39.860 and among researchers and the cash flow is,

00:07:43.040 if you believe in this,

00:07:43.940 we will fund you.

00:07:45.600 But when you make these outlandish claims

00:07:47.660 and then you treat them as fact,

00:07:49.580 there's nothing you can do to debate this with them.

00:07:52.540 When you look at what they said here,

00:07:54.340 they said this is a scientific consensus.

00:07:57.980 And the authors say they analyzed 180 studies.

00:08:00.540 All of them,

00:08:01.300 I'm sure,

00:08:01.740 were studies that were funded by radical lefties

00:08:04.560 and global warming activists,

00:08:06.380 right?

00:08:06.620 Those that raise money,

00:08:07.680 et cetera.

00:08:08.240 But when they come out and say that,

00:08:10.020 you know,

00:08:10.460 we're going to lose a billion people,

00:08:13.640 you make it sound that bad.

00:08:16.860 Is there any way to overcome that with anything else

00:08:19.560 but this propaganda?

00:08:20.560 And I think that's why they make these outlandish claims.

00:08:23.940 Well,

00:08:24.300 it's why we need people in colleges and universities

00:08:28.520 and think tanks in the academic world

00:08:31.100 and in the scientific world

00:08:32.960 to reject politicized science.

00:08:35.900 Let me read a little more from Dr. Brown.

00:08:38.680 Dr. Brown says,

00:08:39.960 quote,

00:08:40.540 So in my recent Nature paper,

00:08:42.840 which I authored with seven others,

00:08:44.840 I focused narrowly on the influence of climate change

00:08:47.840 on extreme wildfire behavior.

00:08:50.320 Make no mistake,

00:08:51.240 that influence is very real.

00:08:53.740 But there are also other factors

00:08:55.640 that can be just as or more important,

00:08:59.160 such as poor forest management

00:09:00.940 and the increasing number of people

00:09:03.700 who start wildfires either accidentally

00:09:06.360 or purposely.

00:09:09.240 A startling fact,

00:09:11.560 over 80% of wildfires in the U.S.

00:09:14.780 are ignited by humans.

00:09:16.420 I want to repeat that sentence

00:09:17.540 because the corporate media will never say it.

00:09:20.040 A startling fact,

00:09:24.020 over 80% of wildfires in the U.S.

00:09:27.780 are ignited by humans.

00:09:29.400 Now, here's what Dr. Brown continues to say.

00:09:31.960 In my paper,

00:09:32.680 we didn't bother to study the influence

00:09:34.340 of these other obviously relevant factors.

00:09:38.080 Did I know that including them

00:09:39.720 would make for a more realistic

00:09:41.140 and useful analysis?

00:09:42.300 I did.

00:09:43.920 But I also knew that it would detract

00:09:45.820 from the clean narrative centered

00:09:47.620 on the negative impact of climate change

00:09:49.700 and thus decrease the odds

00:09:51.520 that the paper would pass muster

00:09:53.000 with nature's editors and reviewers.

00:09:56.580 This type of framing,

00:09:57.940 with the influence of climate change

00:09:59.460 unrealistically considered in isolation,

00:10:02.080 is the norm for high-profile research papers.

00:10:06.340 For example,

00:10:08.040 in another recent influential nature paper,

00:10:11.160 scientists calculated

00:10:12.280 that the two largest climate change impacts

00:10:14.700 on society

00:10:15.460 are deaths related to extreme heat

00:10:18.220 and damage to agriculture.

00:10:20.480 However,

00:10:21.300 the authors never mentioned

00:10:22.400 that climate change

00:10:23.320 is not the dominant driver

00:10:25.860 for either one of these impacts.

00:10:28.300 Heat-related deaths

00:10:29.620 have been declining

00:10:31.500 and crop yields

00:10:33.680 have been increasing

00:10:35.400 for decades

00:10:37.360 despite climate change.

00:10:40.040 To acknowledge this

00:10:41.320 would imply that the world

00:10:42.460 has succeeded in some areas

00:10:44.100 despite climate change,

00:10:46.060 which, the thinking goes,

00:10:47.920 would undermine the motivation

00:10:49.660 for emissions reductions.

00:10:51.740 This is a narrative

00:10:53.320 of so-called scientific inquiry,

00:10:58.380 scientific journals,

00:10:59.620 academic journals

00:11:00.540 that have abandoned

00:11:02.300 the mission of science.

00:11:04.240 Science is about

00:11:05.360 examining evidence,

00:11:08.220 following the scientific method,

00:11:11.200 beginning with a hypothesis,

00:11:12.600 looking to evidence

00:11:13.440 to disprove that hypothesis,

00:11:15.460 and determining what's happening.

00:11:17.500 Today,

00:11:19.200 an enormous amount of science

00:11:20.780 is simply politics

00:11:22.700 covered in scientific garb,

00:11:25.560 and in no place

00:11:26.540 is that more profound

00:11:27.900 than in the world

00:11:29.160 of climate change,

00:11:30.180 where there are billions

00:11:31.500 of dollars connected

00:11:32.800 to so-called scientists

00:11:34.960 telling the preferred

00:11:36.040 political narrative,

00:11:37.560 facts be damned.

00:11:38.860 Yeah, it is no longer 0.87

00:11:40.940 about facts,

00:11:41.620 certainly in academia

00:11:42.420 where it's supposed

00:11:43.040 to be about that.

00:11:43.820 Now it's about propaganda

00:11:45.040 and indoctrinating people

00:11:46.900 to this,

00:11:47.460 while they all fly

00:11:48.400 on their private jets

00:11:49.160 to climate change events,

00:11:51.160 which I still laugh

00:11:52.040 at the hypocrisy of that.

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00:12:30.900 Now on to story number two.

00:12:33.320 Senator,

00:12:33.720 I also want to deal with COVID.

00:12:35.740 We were talking about the lies

00:12:37.380 and they seem to be coming back now.

00:12:40.440 The White House

00:12:41.000 now letting everybody know

00:12:42.240 that Joe Biden

00:12:43.160 is going to start wearing

00:12:44.380 a mask indoors,

00:12:46.060 this after Joe Biden

00:12:47.340 has come down with COVID.

00:12:48.780 Even though Joe Biden

00:12:50.020 has tested negative for COVID

00:12:51.780 yesterday and the day before

00:12:54.080 and the day before that.

00:12:55.200 President Biden

00:12:55.940 tested negative last night

00:12:57.220 for COVID-19

00:12:58.060 and tested negative again today.

00:13:00.840 He's not experiencing

00:13:01.800 any symptoms.

00:13:03.020 As far as the steps

00:13:04.280 he is taking,

00:13:05.440 since the president

00:13:06.400 was with the first lady yesterday,

00:13:08.360 he will be masking

00:13:09.360 while indoors

00:13:10.180 and around people

00:13:11.480 in alignment with CDC guidance.

00:13:13.680 And as has been

00:13:15.940 the practice in the past,

00:13:17.660 the president will remove

00:13:18.640 his mask when sufficiently

00:13:19.800 distanced from others

00:13:21.660 indoors and while outside as well.

00:13:24.260 Now, the funny part is,

00:13:25.220 Senator,

00:13:25.600 this is said from the podium

00:13:27.000 at the White House.

00:13:28.260 Moments later,

00:13:29.060 the president is on stage

00:13:30.580 in a ceremony.

00:13:31.640 He's not the appropriate distance

00:13:33.740 that the White House

00:13:34.320 says is appropriate 0.90

00:13:35.060 from other people.

00:13:36.420 And then he takes his mask off

00:13:38.140 that they just said

00:13:38.940 to everybody

00:13:39.360 he's going to be wearing

00:13:40.080 if he's in closed quarters

00:13:41.240 with a lot of different people.

00:13:42.440 And you add that in

00:13:44.360 with a D.C. area

00:13:46.460 elementary school.

00:13:47.580 Montgomery County, Maryland

00:13:48.880 is now reinstating

00:13:50.600 a mask mandate

00:13:52.180 and the mask mandate

00:13:53.120 isn't just for those

00:13:53.840 little masks.

00:13:54.600 No, no, no.

00:13:54.980 N95 masks

00:13:56.080 for all their third graders

00:13:57.560 because a few kids

00:13:59.500 tested positive for COVID.

00:14:01.700 They sent out a letter

00:14:02.800 telling parents

00:14:04.300 that these masks,

00:14:05.800 these N95 masks,

00:14:07.140 are going to be mandated

00:14:08.640 in class.

00:14:10.120 These masks,

00:14:10.800 they say,

00:14:11.060 have been distributed

00:14:11.660 and students and staff

00:14:13.120 and identified classes

00:14:14.880 and or activities

00:14:15.880 will be required

00:14:17.280 to mask while in school

00:14:18.880 for at least

00:14:19.740 the next 10 days

00:14:20.920 except, of course,

00:14:22.180 while eating and drinking.

00:14:23.640 And the mask

00:14:24.040 will become optional,

00:14:25.180 they claim,

00:14:26.160 after the, quote,

00:14:27.400 outbreak has dissipated.

00:14:30.280 Here it is.

00:14:31.280 Mask mandates coming back.

00:14:33.420 Look,

00:14:33.580 this is utterly absurd.

00:14:35.060 Mask mandates are wrong.

00:14:37.600 And for the left,

00:14:39.160 this has become a,

00:14:40.220 it's a combination

00:14:41.200 of a number of things.

00:14:42.620 Number one,

00:14:42.980 it's an article of faith.

00:14:44.700 Number two,

00:14:45.200 it's a virtue signal.

00:14:46.240 It shows just how

00:14:47.460 self-righteous

00:14:48.640 they think they are.

00:14:49.720 You know,

00:14:49.880 as I was walking

00:14:50.800 down the halls

00:14:52.120 of the Capitol today,

00:14:53.100 one very prominent

00:14:53.980 Democrat senator

00:14:54.880 was walking along

00:14:55.940 with his N95 mask

00:14:57.340 and behind him

00:14:58.000 was a staffer

00:14:58.700 wearing his N95 mask.

00:15:00.360 And it shows virtue.

00:15:03.100 But number three,

00:15:03.900 it's about control.

00:15:05.660 And this is all

00:15:07.200 about controlling people,

00:15:08.700 whether it's mask mandates,

00:15:09.920 whether it's vaccine mandates,

00:15:11.180 whether it's having

00:15:11.840 the 437th booster.

00:15:14.280 Enough is enough is enough. 0.99

00:15:16.440 This is crap. 0.99

00:15:18.060 And no, 1.00

00:15:18.700 look,

00:15:19.180 I recognize,

00:15:19.880 and by the way,

00:15:20.980 a year from now,

00:15:22.000 we are going to see

00:15:22.740 the most deadly COVID variant

00:15:24.460 ever seen,

00:15:25.180 the election variant.

00:15:26.380 And before the election,

00:15:27.920 it's,

00:15:28.220 they're going to need

00:15:28.680 to shut everything down

00:15:29.800 because they want to have

00:15:30.900 mail-in balloting

00:15:32.820 for everyone

00:15:33.500 because they think

00:15:34.240 it helps elect Democrats.

00:15:35.780 Enough is enough is enough.

00:15:37.340 If you want to wear 1.00

00:15:38.040 a damn mask, 1.00

00:15:38.960 fine. 1.00

00:15:39.320 But don't be a hypocrite 0.99

00:15:41.020 and don't try to force 0.99

00:15:41.960 other people to.

00:15:43.580 And,

00:15:43.680 and,

00:15:44.180 all right,

00:15:44.580 listen.

00:15:45.780 So,

00:15:46.340 many of the people

00:15:47.780 who listen to this podcast

00:15:48.820 are conservatives,

00:15:49.640 but some are not.

00:15:50.620 Some are open-minded.

00:15:51.520 Some want to hear both sides.

00:15:52.820 So,

00:15:52.900 so,

00:15:53.140 so maybe you think,

00:15:54.060 all right,

00:15:54.700 I'm not going to trust Cruz.

00:15:56.000 I'm not going to trust

00:15:56.680 Ferguson on this.

00:15:58.420 All right,

00:15:58.840 if you don't trust me,

00:16:00.620 listen to CNN,

00:16:02.800 left-wing CNN,

00:16:04.420 confronting Dr. Fauci

00:16:06.040 this past weekend

00:16:07.140 about his false claims

00:16:09.500 about masks.

00:16:10.280 Give a listen.

00:16:11.560 There is a perception

00:16:12.580 out there by many,

00:16:14.200 how many I don't know,

00:16:15.620 that they don't work

00:16:16.540 and that the data

00:16:17.660 concludes that they

00:16:19.060 didn't work in the first

00:16:20.120 go-round.

00:16:20.740 Respond to that

00:16:21.580 on masks.

00:16:23.980 Yeah,

00:16:24.520 well,

00:16:24.720 that's not so.

00:16:25.680 I mean,

00:16:25.940 when you're talking about

00:16:26.780 at the population level

00:16:28.300 that the data

00:16:29.480 are less strong

00:16:30.520 than knowing that

00:16:31.440 if you look

00:16:32.140 on a situation

00:16:33.200 as an individual

00:16:34.240 protecting themselves

00:16:36.060 or protecting them

00:16:37.300 from spreading it,

00:16:38.700 there's no doubt

00:16:39.580 that masks work.

00:16:40.880 Different studies

00:16:41.800 give different percentages

00:16:43.500 of advantage

00:16:44.300 of wearing it,

00:16:45.300 but there's no doubt

00:16:46.380 that the weight

00:16:47.120 of the studies,

00:16:48.260 and there have been

00:16:48.720 many studies,

00:16:49.520 indicate the benefit

00:16:51.100 of wearing masks.

00:16:53.760 I'm going to refer

00:16:54.620 to one of them.

00:16:55.460 You've heard about it

00:16:56.140 before.

00:16:56.660 I heard about it

00:16:57.400 from a number

00:16:57.780 of radio callers.

00:16:59.500 Brett Stevens

00:17:00.020 in the Times

00:17:00.620 talked about Cochran.

00:17:01.780 Put that on the screen.

00:17:03.180 The most rigorous

00:17:03.820 and comprehensive analysis

00:17:05.100 of scientific studies

00:17:06.260 conducted on the efficacy

00:17:07.360 of masks

00:17:08.060 for reducing the spread

00:17:09.380 of respiratory illness,

00:17:10.540 including COVID-19,

00:17:12.060 was published last month.

00:17:13.520 Its conclusions,

00:17:14.420 said Tom Jefferson,

00:17:15.540 the Oxford epidemiologist,

00:17:17.340 who is the lead author,

00:17:18.440 were unambiguous.

00:17:19.720 There is just no evidence

00:17:21.140 that they, masks,

00:17:22.640 make any difference,

00:17:23.920 he told the journalist

00:17:24.880 Mayenne Demasi.

00:17:26.180 Full stop.

00:17:27.300 But wait,

00:17:27.820 hold on.

00:17:28.400 What about the N95 masks 0.95

00:17:29.980 as opposed to

00:17:30.680 the lower quality?

00:17:31.860 Surgical or cloth masks

00:17:33.220 makes no difference.

00:17:34.660 None of it,

00:17:35.220 he said.

00:17:35.940 Well, what about the studies

00:17:36.940 that initially persuaded

00:17:38.080 policymakers to impose

00:17:39.680 mask mandates?

00:17:40.880 They were convinced

00:17:41.740 by non-randomized studies,

00:17:43.880 flawed observational studies.

00:17:45.180 How do we get beyond

00:17:46.980 that finding

00:17:47.780 of that particular review?

00:17:50.640 Yeah, but there are

00:17:51.720 other studies, Michael,

00:17:53.040 that show at an individual level

00:17:54.940 for individual,

00:17:55.760 when you're talking about

00:17:56.760 the effect

00:17:57.400 on the epidemic

00:17:59.700 or the pandemic

00:18:00.560 as a whole,

00:18:02.080 the data are less strong.

00:18:03.700 But when you talk about

00:18:04.700 as an individual basis

00:18:06.140 of someone protecting themselves

00:18:08.020 or protecting themselves

00:18:09.780 from spreading it to others,

00:18:11.720 there's no doubt

00:18:12.580 that there are many studies

00:18:13.660 that show

00:18:14.200 that there is an advantage.

00:18:15.640 When you took it

00:18:16.340 at the broad population level

00:18:18.380 like the Cochran study,

00:18:19.940 the data are less firm

00:18:21.660 with regard to the effect

00:18:23.260 on the overall pandemic.

00:18:25.220 But we're not talking

00:18:26.400 about that.

00:18:26.980 We're talking about

00:18:27.560 an individual's effect

00:18:29.980 on their own safety.

00:18:31.280 That's a bit different

00:18:32.440 than the broad population level.

00:18:34.280 I mean, you hear him there,

00:18:35.680 and even he's being questioned,

00:18:38.020 Fauci,

00:18:38.360 by a guy

00:18:38.980 who's not conservative

00:18:40.160 at CNN,

00:18:41.240 and it's for kind,

00:18:42.060 and she's like,

00:18:42.500 well, hold on,

00:18:43.160 I'll read for you

00:18:44.300 what they say,

00:18:45.080 and yet Fauci's still

00:18:46.080 sitting there saying,

00:18:47.060 no, no, no,

00:18:47.320 these things work,

00:18:48.080 you're somehow still wrong.

00:18:49.840 Well, look,

00:18:50.620 two things.

00:18:51.400 Number one,

00:18:53.080 Fauci himself

00:18:54.080 knows what he's saying

00:18:55.640 is wrong.

00:18:56.360 And if you go back

00:18:57.800 to the beginning of COVID,

00:18:59.700 February 5th, 2020,

00:19:01.380 Sylvia Burwell,

00:19:02.280 who was the Secretary

00:19:03.100 of Health and Human Services

00:19:04.240 for three years

00:19:05.120 under Barack Obama,

00:19:06.820 emailed Fauci

00:19:07.780 and asked if she

00:19:09.680 should wear a mask.

00:19:10.620 And by the way,

00:19:11.140 his whole defense was,

00:19:12.160 well, individually,

00:19:12.920 it makes sense,

00:19:13.860 just not for society.

00:19:15.640 Here's what Fauci wrote

00:19:17.040 on February 5th of 2020,

00:19:18.920 quote,

00:19:20.020 Masks are not,

00:19:21.660 are really for infected people

00:19:23.280 to prevent them

00:19:23.900 from spreading infection

00:19:24.800 to people who are not infected

00:19:26.060 rather than protecting

00:19:27.100 uninfected people

00:19:28.140 from acquiring infection.

00:19:30.280 Fauci continues,

00:19:31.260 the typical mask

00:19:32.460 you buy in the drugstore

00:19:33.440 is not really effective

00:19:34.480 in keeping out virus,

00:19:36.040 which is small enough

00:19:36.900 to pass through material.

00:19:38.680 It might,

00:19:39.360 however,

00:19:39.660 provide some slight benefit

00:19:41.360 to keep out gross droplets

00:19:43.220 if someone coughs

00:19:45.000 or sneezes on you.

00:19:46.120 And he added,

00:19:47.060 quote,

00:19:48.140 I do not recommend

00:19:49.620 that you wear a mask,

00:19:51.360 particularly since

00:19:52.300 you are going

00:19:52.960 to a very low-risk location.

00:19:55.700 That's what he said

00:19:56.620 in 2020.

00:19:58.080 Then,

00:19:58.780 he decided

00:20:00.920 that it was politically

00:20:02.040 beneficial

00:20:02.740 to mandate

00:20:03.360 that everyone

00:20:04.040 had to wear a mask.

00:20:05.060 And yet now,

00:20:06.280 look,

00:20:06.580 the second point

00:20:07.200 I'd make,

00:20:08.100 the fact that CNN

00:20:09.380 is turning on this,

00:20:11.120 in the height

00:20:11.780 of the pandemic,

00:20:12.500 the words that you just

00:20:13.580 played from CNN,

00:20:14.640 they would not utter.

00:20:15.840 There was no brooking dissent

00:20:17.800 from whatever

00:20:19.280 St. Fauci said.

00:20:21.640 Whatever the mandate was,

00:20:23.340 mask today,

00:20:24.000 not mask tomorrow,

00:20:24.960 mask the next day,

00:20:26.320 you couldn't disagree.

00:20:27.900 The fact that even CNN

00:20:29.100 is turning,

00:20:29.780 I think,

00:20:30.240 is significant.

00:20:31.480 I think if the Biden

00:20:32.360 administration tries

00:20:33.720 another round

00:20:34.540 of shutdowns

00:20:35.420 and mask mandates,

00:20:36.900 I think a lot

00:20:37.780 of the country

00:20:38.300 is going to say

00:20:38.940 no and hell no.

00:20:40.080 I'll tell you,

00:20:40.520 the state of Texas

00:20:41.240 has zero interest

00:20:42.420 in shutting down.

00:20:44.120 And I think

00:20:48.340 you're going to see

00:20:48.880 resistance not just

00:20:49.940 in Texas,

00:20:50.400 but all over the country.

00:20:51.900 Yeah,

00:20:51.980 I think you're right.

00:20:52.680 And the other thing

00:20:53.200 that worries many people

00:20:54.300 is this,

00:20:54.880 the president

00:20:55.540 and this idea

00:20:56.440 that we could go back

00:20:57.340 into some sort

00:20:58.040 of government shutdown.

00:20:59.640 There was that awkward

00:21:00.600 interview that he did

00:21:01.620 with Kamala Harris,

00:21:02.520 far away from him,

00:21:03.340 the social distancing,

00:21:04.940 back in the early days

00:21:06.300 of COVID

00:21:06.680 in his administration,

00:21:07.860 sitting next to,

00:21:08.640 you know,

00:21:08.840 far away from David Muir's

00:21:10.160 interview in a weird triangle.

00:21:12.320 And he said he would

00:21:13.200 have no problem

00:21:14.020 if the scientists

00:21:14.860 told him to,

00:21:15.480 to shut down

00:21:16.040 our entire economy.

00:21:17.420 I would be prepared

00:21:18.120 to do whatever it takes

00:21:19.120 to save lives

00:21:20.260 because we cannot

00:21:21.160 get the country moving

00:21:22.560 until we control

00:21:24.360 the virus.

00:21:25.520 That is the fundamental

00:21:26.780 flaw of this administration's

00:21:28.440 thinking to begin with.

00:21:29.460 In order to keep

00:21:31.240 the country running

00:21:32.280 and moving

00:21:32.900 and the economy growing

00:21:34.280 and people employed,

00:21:36.000 you have to fix the virus.

00:21:38.320 You have to deal

00:21:38.940 with the virus.

00:21:39.880 So if the scientists say,

00:21:41.120 shut it down?

00:21:41.980 I would shut it down.

00:21:43.100 I would listen

00:21:43.780 to the scientists.

00:21:46.140 I mean,

00:21:46.960 that's apparently

00:21:47.940 still on the table

00:21:48.880 and if they're

00:21:49.260 bringing the masks back,

00:21:50.360 I mean,

00:21:50.940 how far away are we

00:21:51.840 from having another fall

00:21:53.480 where they start

00:21:54.040 shutting things down?

00:21:55.080 And what should

00:21:55.480 the American people do?

00:21:56.960 Look,

00:21:57.260 the Democrats

00:21:59.200 want to shut it down.

00:22:01.120 They want to impose mandates

00:22:02.740 and I got to say

00:22:03.440 one of the biggest lies

00:22:04.680 of that exchange

00:22:05.500 is I would listen

00:22:07.080 to the scientists.

00:22:07.820 The only scientists

00:22:08.700 that he listens to

00:22:09.680 are the ones

00:22:10.220 who say what he wants

00:22:11.120 to hear.

00:22:12.040 You know,

00:22:12.440 the very last podcast

00:22:13.380 we did,

00:22:13.940 we did a two-part episode

00:22:15.140 with an interview

00:22:15.880 with Dr. Phil

00:22:16.700 and one of the interesting

00:22:17.660 things,

00:22:18.120 look,

00:22:18.320 Dr. Phil

00:22:18.940 has been the number one

00:22:20.920 ranked daytime TV host

00:22:22.900 for a decade

00:22:23.660 and he talked about

00:22:25.460 how the data are

00:22:26.520 that the school shutdowns

00:22:29.060 from COVID

00:22:29.700 cost many,

00:22:32.100 many more lives

00:22:33.360 than the virus

00:22:34.220 would have cost.

00:22:35.020 In other words,

00:22:35.460 listen to the scientists.

00:22:37.300 The Democrats

00:22:37.880 aren't listening

00:22:38.560 to the scientists

00:22:39.280 because if they did,

00:22:40.260 they'd look at the harm

00:22:41.080 from the shutdowns.

00:22:41.900 They'd look at the harm

00:22:42.580 from businesses shut down.

00:22:43.640 They'd look at the harm

00:22:44.440 from churches shut down.

00:22:45.680 They'd look at the harm

00:22:46.340 from school shut down.

00:22:47.360 The kids who face learning loss

00:22:49.280 for the rest of their life.

00:22:50.400 They'd look at the mental health

00:22:51.540 numbers that have gone up.

00:22:53.360 They'd look at the kids

00:22:54.460 who didn't go to school

00:22:55.580 and didn't have

00:22:56.660 physical wellness checks,

00:22:57.860 didn't have mental health checks,

00:22:59.440 didn't have daily food

00:23:01.560 because for low-income kids,

00:23:02.920 for many of them,

00:23:04.000 their principal source

00:23:04.940 of food is at school.

00:23:05.960 They didn't have

00:23:06.740 the counselors

00:23:07.340 who could observe

00:23:08.220 whether kids are subject

00:23:09.480 to physical abuse

00:23:10.400 or sexual abuse

00:23:11.400 because when they shut down schools,

00:23:13.140 they sent them at home

00:23:14.140 and the data,

00:23:16.620 what Dr. Phil told us,

00:23:17.760 and if you didn't listen

00:23:18.480 to those two podcasts,

00:23:19.480 you got to go back

00:23:20.040 and listen to them,

00:23:20.620 but what Dr. Phil said

00:23:21.680 on this podcast

00:23:22.380 was that the data show

00:23:24.480 that many, many more lives

00:23:26.560 were lost

00:23:27.240 because of the shutdowns,

00:23:28.440 but the Democrats

00:23:29.060 don't want to listen

00:23:30.000 to the scientists.

00:23:31.100 They have a political agenda,

00:23:32.520 so they'll cherry-pick

00:23:34.080 whatever scientists repeat

00:23:35.640 the politically favored outcome

00:23:37.960 that support

00:23:38.840 the result they want anyway.

00:23:41.300 Senator, last question for you.

00:23:42.940 What do you think

00:23:43.580 states should be doing

00:23:44.640 because Texas

00:23:45.520 has banned the mask mandates

00:23:47.000 as COVID restrictions

00:23:48.000 are being imposed

00:23:49.500 in other states?

00:23:50.360 It was a Newsweek headline.

00:23:51.600 It says,

00:23:51.860 a ban on COVID-19 restrictions

00:23:53.300 and imposed a mandate

00:23:54.540 to wear face masks

00:23:55.620 in public spaces

00:23:56.960 went into effect in Texas

00:23:58.140 after a number of institutions

00:23:59.640 across the U.S.

00:24:00.780 reinstated the policy

00:24:01.920 due to a rise

00:24:03.180 in new infections

00:24:04.140 fueled by the emergence

00:24:05.340 of two new variants

00:24:06.520 of the virus.

00:24:07.440 Now, that's the gist of this,

00:24:09.320 but Texas is saying,

00:24:10.720 hey, we're going to stand up

00:24:12.360 to this type of insanity.

00:24:14.100 Do other people

00:24:15.000 need to be calling

00:24:15.760 their legislators

00:24:16.440 and asking for the same thing?

00:24:18.180 Look, absolutely, yes.

00:24:19.800 Listen, states need

00:24:21.140 to embrace common sense.

00:24:22.940 States need to defend liberty.

00:24:24.600 States need to defend

00:24:25.640 individual choice.

00:24:27.260 If someone wants

00:24:27.860 to wear a mask,

00:24:28.700 knock yourself out.

00:24:29.800 You can still,

00:24:31.080 you know,

00:24:31.480 I flew from Texas

00:24:33.440 to D.C. today.

00:24:34.460 There were still

00:24:34.900 a handful of people

00:24:35.680 in the airport

00:24:36.180 that choose to wear masks.

00:24:37.400 Okay, if you want

00:24:37.860 to wear a mask,

00:24:38.400 that's fine.

00:24:39.060 You've got an individual choice.

00:24:40.440 You can wear a ski mask

00:24:42.760 if you want.

00:24:43.400 That's your choice.

00:24:44.260 But government shouldn't

00:24:45.800 be forcing people

00:24:46.820 to wear a mask.

00:24:48.020 Airlines shouldn't be 1.00

00:24:48.980 forcing people

00:24:49.540 to wear a mask.

00:24:50.900 Airport shouldn't be

00:24:51.800 forcing people

00:24:52.320 to wear a mask.

00:24:53.880 Restaurants shouldn't be

00:24:54.800 forcing people

00:24:55.480 to wear a mask.

00:24:56.280 Nobody should be

00:24:57.120 forcing anyone

00:24:57.740 to wear a mask.

00:24:58.620 And even more so,

00:25:00.740 governors and states

00:25:02.060 need to say

00:25:02.700 not just no,

00:25:03.600 but hell no

00:25:04.640 to the shutdowns.

00:25:06.060 We will look back

00:25:07.380 in the future,

00:25:09.000 years in the future,

00:25:10.040 we will look back

00:25:11.020 and say, 0.97

00:25:11.800 what in the hell

00:25:13.320 did America do

00:25:14.480 shutting much

00:25:15.820 of the country down

00:25:16.820 for a year or more?

00:25:18.280 Many parts of the country,

00:25:19.560 almost all Democrat

00:25:20.920 parts of the country,

00:25:22.360 shut businesses down,

00:25:23.900 shut churches down,

00:25:25.480 shut schools down,

00:25:26.580 many schools,

00:25:27.500 tens of millions of kids

00:25:28.620 were out of school

00:25:29.560 for over a year.

00:25:32.160 And the consequence

00:25:33.240 was cataclysmic.

00:25:34.880 It is,

00:25:35.800 without exaggeration,

00:25:36.920 the most catastrophic

00:25:38.220 public policy decision

00:25:39.640 of our lifetimes.

00:25:42.260 And so states need to say

00:25:43.880 we're not going down

00:25:45.360 that road again.

00:25:46.360 No, we're not going

00:25:47.480 to do it.

00:25:48.100 Look, you know the school

00:25:48.920 shutdowns were bad

00:25:49.860 when Randy Weingarten,

00:25:51.020 the head of one

00:25:51.420 of the big teachers unions,

00:25:52.700 is now suddenly claiming

00:25:53.920 I wasn't for school

00:25:55.120 shutdowns,

00:25:55.860 despite the fact

00:25:56.680 that she fought

00:25:57.740 relentlessly for school

00:25:58.880 shutdowns and caused

00:25:59.920 Democratic politicians

00:26:01.080 to jump on a string

00:26:03.120 when she demanded it.

00:26:04.580 Now even she's 0.99

00:26:05.860 running away from it.

00:26:07.440 States need to stand up

00:26:08.740 and say we're not

00:26:09.460 shutting anything down.

00:26:10.560 Look, if there's another

00:26:11.940 public health crisis,

00:26:13.080 and at some point

00:26:13.780 there will be,

00:26:15.100 protect people

00:26:15.860 who are vulnerable,

00:26:17.180 work to provide

00:26:18.240 treatment options,

00:26:19.340 give people advice

00:26:20.220 on how to keep safe,

00:26:21.500 but respect their

00:26:22.900 individual liberty

00:26:23.900 and don't engage

00:26:24.960 in arbitrary shutdowns

00:26:26.680 and mandates.

00:26:27.800 The mandates are wrong.

00:26:30.080 Say no to the mandates.

00:26:31.100 As before,

00:26:32.460 if you want to hear

00:26:33.140 the rest of this conversation

00:26:34.380 on this topic,

00:26:35.500 you can go back

00:26:36.360 and download the podcast

00:26:37.680 from earlier this week

00:26:38.540 to hear the entire thing.

00:26:40.580 Canadian women

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00:26:46.940 And that's why

00:26:47.380 we're thrilled to introduce

00:26:48.540 the Honest Talk podcast.

00:26:50.660 I'm Jennifer Stewart.

00:26:51.840 And I'm Catherine Clark.

00:26:53.060 And in this podcast,

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00:27:05.800 Listen to the Honest Talk podcast

00:27:07.180 on iHeartRadio

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00:27:10.940 I want to get back

00:27:12.100 to the big story

00:27:13.280 number three of the week

00:27:14.220 you may have missed.

00:27:15.700 The listeners did

00:27:16.740 an amazing job

00:27:18.220 of sharing.

00:27:19.200 It was one of the biggest podcasts

00:27:21.040 I think we've ever done together.

00:27:22.800 And it dealt with the issue

00:27:24.620 of 9-11.

00:27:26.480 You issued a statement

00:27:27.740 afterwards

00:27:29.380 and that also went viral.

00:27:31.260 And you have a news statement,

00:27:32.420 an update I want you

00:27:33.220 to tell me about tonight.

00:27:34.460 This goes back

00:27:35.480 to that letter

00:27:36.180 that the DOJ

00:27:37.100 or I should say

00:27:37.740 the DOD sent out

00:27:39.260 to families,

00:27:41.400 victims of 9-11.

00:27:43.380 And they were letting them know

00:27:45.140 in a heads up

00:27:46.020 that we were probably

00:27:47.020 going to do a plea deal

00:27:48.120 with Khalid Sheikh Mohammed

00:27:49.500 and I think it was

00:27:50.120 three or four other terrorists

00:27:51.180 at Guantanamo Bay.

00:27:52.740 Khalid Sheikh Mohammed,

00:27:53.620 we went through

00:27:53.980 the history of who he is,

00:27:55.360 the mastermind of 9-11,

00:27:56.460 but also killed

00:27:57.160 many other people

00:27:57.840 and many other attacks

00:27:59.340 around the world,

00:28:00.020 innocent children,

00:28:01.380 women, etc. 0.98

00:28:02.540 And they were going

00:28:03.280 to do a deal

00:28:03.860 to spare him

00:28:05.100 the death penalty

00:28:05.820 so we could get him

00:28:06.880 out of Gitmo

00:28:07.420 and then close down Gitmo.

00:28:08.780 That's the ultimate goal

00:28:09.700 for the DOD

00:28:11.060 and the Biden administration.

00:28:13.120 We now have an update

00:28:14.300 because of the outrage

00:28:15.940 of so many listeners

00:28:16.920 of this show

00:28:17.480 and others

00:28:18.120 and that story going viral.

00:28:20.060 It looks like

00:28:20.420 they're not going

00:28:20.740 to get away with it.

00:28:22.920 That's exactly right.

00:28:24.080 And I want to take a minute

00:28:25.340 to thank the listeners

00:28:27.180 of Verdict

00:28:27.800 because I actually think

00:28:29.180 you guys made a real difference

00:28:31.660 in something that matters

00:28:33.080 enormously in this country,

00:28:34.820 which is,

00:28:36.600 as we discussed

00:28:37.660 on this podcast,

00:28:39.420 the Biden administration

00:28:40.720 sent out letters

00:28:41.860 to the families

00:28:42.820 of the victims

00:28:44.580 who were murdered

00:28:45.200 on September 11th

00:28:46.420 and said,

00:28:47.420 hey,

00:28:47.560 we're contemplating

00:28:48.580 a plea deal

00:28:49.540 where Khalid Sheikh Mohammed

00:28:50.940 and other conspirators

00:28:53.660 behind the mass murder

00:28:55.300 on September 11th

00:28:56.640 would be spared

00:28:58.140 the death penalty.

00:28:58.980 They'd give it life in prison.

00:29:00.100 They would be exempted 0.92

00:29:01.500 from capital punishment

00:29:02.520 despite the fact

00:29:03.420 that they committed

00:29:03.940 an act of war,

00:29:04.840 despite the fact

00:29:05.500 that they killed

00:29:06.180 nearly 3,000 people.

00:29:08.920 We'd spare them.

00:29:10.820 And, you know,

00:29:12.060 when they sent this letter,

00:29:13.740 it was initially getting

00:29:14.980 almost no press coverage.

00:29:16.880 No one was covering it.

00:29:17.860 No one was discussing it.

00:29:19.740 ABC didn't discuss it

00:29:20.980 at the 6 o'clock news.

00:29:22.140 NBC didn't discuss it.

00:29:23.440 CBS didn't discuss it.

00:29:24.820 CNN didn't discuss it.

00:29:26.240 MSNBC didn't discuss it.

00:29:28.140 The entire corporate media

00:29:29.640 ignored it.

00:29:31.540 You and I

00:29:32.340 were so outraged by it

00:29:34.060 that we sat down

00:29:35.640 to do our pod

00:29:36.400 and we actually had

00:29:36.960 three topics.

00:29:37.700 This was topic number one.

00:29:38.780 We had two other topics.

00:29:40.560 And we ended up deciding,

00:29:41.900 you know what,

00:29:42.280 the entire podcast

00:29:43.400 is going to focus

00:29:44.220 on this issue

00:29:44.960 on September 11th

00:29:46.500 on the horrific

00:29:47.260 terrorist attack

00:29:48.280 that came after America 0.98

00:29:50.460 on what it meant

00:29:51.480 and on the outrage.

00:29:54.240 Listen,

00:29:54.460 the Biden administration,

00:29:55.600 and we talked about

00:29:56.260 in that podcast,

00:29:57.500 and by the way,

00:29:57.880 you ought to go back

00:29:58.360 and listen to that podcast.

00:29:59.440 You can go back

00:29:59.880 and find,

00:30:00.400 we did a full podcast

00:30:01.540 on this September 11th

00:30:03.200 effort of the Biden administration

00:30:04.780 to spare

00:30:06.000 the mastermind

00:30:07.440 of September 11th.

00:30:08.480 But I believe

00:30:09.840 this is part and parcel

00:30:11.000 of the Biden administration's effort

00:30:13.180 to essentially abolish

00:30:15.020 the federal death penalty.

00:30:16.420 And before Joe Biden

00:30:17.700 leaves the White House,

00:30:18.600 I think he is going

00:30:19.500 to pardon

00:30:20.200 or commute the sentences

00:30:22.460 of every single

00:30:24.140 federal death penalty

00:30:25.240 prisoner, 1.00

00:30:26.580 including the racist lunatic 1.00

00:30:29.320 who murdered 1.00

00:30:30.460 nine African Americans

00:30:32.220 at the Mother Emanuel Church

00:30:34.060 in Charleston,

00:30:35.720 South Carolina,

00:30:36.860 including multiple 0.97

00:30:39.860 vicious terrorists 0.98

00:30:41.600 and murderers. 0.98

00:30:43.120 But as a result

00:30:45.660 of this podcast,

00:30:47.040 we focused the entire

00:30:48.460 30 minutes of the pod

00:30:49.600 on the facts behind it.

00:30:51.500 And we asked you,

00:30:52.160 we said,

00:30:52.680 if you're outraged,

00:30:54.340 pick up the phone,

00:30:55.320 call your House member,

00:30:56.320 call your Senator,

00:30:57.260 call the White House,

00:30:58.400 and say,

00:30:59.460 do not spare

00:31:00.580 the September 11th

00:31:02.780 mastermind.

00:31:03.820 Well,

00:31:04.520 we were about

00:31:05.300 the only people

00:31:06.060 shining a light

00:31:06.760 on this,

00:31:07.240 and it ended up

00:31:07.960 people got worked up,

00:31:09.400 which is good.

00:31:09.940 They should have been

00:31:10.500 worked up.

00:31:11.020 We were worked up.

00:31:11.720 It was wrong.

00:31:12.400 It was outrageous.

00:31:13.300 It was astonishing

00:31:14.160 what they're doing.

00:31:15.480 Well,

00:31:15.620 I got to say,

00:31:16.400 on Wednesday,

00:31:18.560 the administration

00:31:19.200 came out

00:31:20.040 and announced

00:31:20.520 that it was not

00:31:21.580 going to accept

00:31:22.960 the plea deal.

00:31:23.820 And here's what

00:31:24.900 prosecutors said

00:31:25.740 in the filing,

00:31:26.280 quote,

00:31:26.500 the administration

00:31:27.920 declines to accept

00:31:29.740 the terms

00:31:30.500 of the proposed

00:31:31.220 joint policy principles

00:31:32.780 offered by the accused

00:31:34.620 in the military

00:31:35.260 commission's case,

00:31:36.260 United States

00:31:36.900 versus Mohammed et al.

00:31:38.140 and so I think

00:31:41.420 that is a real victory

00:31:42.960 verdict listeners

00:31:43.920 ought to feel proud of.

00:31:45.540 Now,

00:31:45.680 to be clear,

00:31:47.020 the Biden administration

00:31:48.140 gave themselves

00:31:49.160 some wiggle room,

00:31:50.060 so they may go back

00:31:51.320 and take the deal,

00:31:53.080 but they at least

00:31:53.760 filed a court pleading

00:31:55.100 saying they're rejecting

00:31:56.860 the deal.

00:31:57.460 That's a major victory.

00:31:58.640 It was only the political

00:32:00.100 pressure that came,

00:32:01.240 and that political pressure

00:32:02.420 was generated

00:32:03.120 in very significant respect

00:32:05.860 by the listeners

00:32:06.800 of this podcast,

00:32:08.040 but my view is 1.00

00:32:09.600 the bastards 1.00

00:32:10.540 that attacked America 1.00

00:32:11.960 that murdered

00:32:13.100 nearly 3,000 Americans,

00:32:14.700 they ought to be prosecuted,

00:32:16.000 they ought to be sentenced 0.99

00:32:16.720 to death, 1.00

00:32:17.240 and they ought to be executed 1.00

00:32:18.400 because I think 0.99

00:32:19.460 it's a matter of justice

00:32:20.860 that people that committed

00:32:22.020 horrific terrorist attacks

00:32:23.960 on America,

00:32:25.340 they should face

00:32:26.500 the ultimate punishment,

00:32:27.980 but the only way

00:32:29.220 we'll be sure that happens

00:32:30.500 is if the American people

00:32:33.180 hold this administration

00:32:34.440 to account,

00:32:35.000 and if they're too embarrassed

00:32:36.820 and ashamed

00:32:37.640 to let these guys off.

00:32:40.920 My next question for you

00:32:42.980 is this.

00:32:43.740 Is this just a pause

00:32:45.180 and delay strategy,

00:32:46.460 Senator,

00:32:47.300 and do we have to keep

00:32:48.800 monitoring them,

00:32:50.000 or does this put this to bed,

00:32:51.940 especially for the victims

00:32:53.500 and the families

00:32:54.960 that were affected by 9-11

00:32:56.220 that got these,

00:32:57.260 you know,

00:32:58.880 I would say horrific letters

00:33:00.780 from the Department of Defense

00:33:01.960 saying that they may spare

00:33:03.400 these guys' lives

00:33:04.180 after these men

00:33:05.020 trained and did all

00:33:07.440 that they did

00:33:07.900 to kill their family members?

00:33:10.100 Well, we don't know entirely. 0.99

00:33:11.640 What we know

00:33:12.360 is that the prisoners

00:33:13.340 not only wanted

00:33:14.140 to be spared the death penalty,

00:33:15.800 but they wanted

00:33:16.840 the Department of Defense

00:33:17.960 to accept a guarantee

00:33:20.420 that they would not

00:33:22.160 serve their sentences

00:33:23.180 in solitary confinement,

00:33:24.460 and that would allow them

00:33:26.480 to eat and pray

00:33:27.280 with other prisoners

00:33:28.400 in Guantanamo Bay.

00:33:29.460 They also wanted

00:33:31.060 a civilian-run program

00:33:32.460 to treat brain disorders,

00:33:33.920 to treat sleep disorders,

00:33:36.100 and to treat

00:33:37.320 gastrointestinal damage

00:33:39.320 that they say

00:33:39.980 the CIA caused

00:33:41.180 during investigations.

00:33:43.120 That's the demand

00:33:44.300 the Biden administration

00:33:45.500 turned down.

00:33:48.500 There is a tiny bit

00:33:50.240 of wiggle room

00:33:50.880 that they could come back

00:33:52.100 and say,

00:33:52.560 okay,

00:33:52.780 we're not going to give you

00:33:54.120 those concessions,

00:33:55.500 but we are going to take 0.93

00:33:57.480 the death penalty

00:33:58.220 off the table.

00:33:59.880 And one of the key reasons,

00:34:01.600 I think there are two things

00:34:03.340 going on in the Biden administration.

00:34:05.100 One,

00:34:06.600 these left-wing radicals

00:34:09.180 are ideologically opposed

00:34:11.000 to the death penalty.

00:34:11.840 They don't want anyone

00:34:12.800 executed ever.

00:34:13.820 They want to essentially

00:34:14.640 repeal the federal death penalty.

00:34:16.260 Now,

00:34:16.800 they don't want to go through

00:34:17.880 the constitutional process

00:34:19.060 of supporting legislation

00:34:21.280 in Congress

00:34:21.860 trying to get the votes

00:34:22.860 and repealing it

00:34:23.660 as a matter of law.

00:34:24.560 They just want to say

00:34:26.100 we,

00:34:26.420 the executive branch,

00:34:27.440 are going to refuse

00:34:28.320 to enforce the death penalty

00:34:29.780 and in fact

00:34:31.220 are going to commute

00:34:32.040 or pardon anyone

00:34:32.980 convicted

00:34:33.560 of the most egregious

00:34:35.200 offenses

00:34:35.680 in the country.

00:34:37.600 I think a second objective,

00:34:39.520 and again,

00:34:40.160 we talked about this

00:34:41.000 at length

00:34:41.520 on the prior pod

00:34:42.580 on this topic,

00:34:43.800 is they want

00:34:45.340 to close Guantanamo.

00:34:46.940 And listen,

00:34:47.540 when it comes to

00:34:48.100 foreign policy,

00:34:48.920 the Biden administration

00:34:50.020 is a press release

00:34:52.380 administration.

00:34:53.260 In other words,

00:34:53.700 they don't follow

00:34:54.520 coherent foreign policy

00:34:57.380 objectives.

00:34:57.920 They don't have

00:34:58.780 a strategic vision

00:35:00.280 for defending this nation.

00:35:02.100 Instead,

00:35:02.840 they want

00:35:03.840 a simple press release

00:35:05.260 that lets them

00:35:05.960 trumpet their moral virtue.

00:35:07.740 So,

00:35:08.440 in Afghanistan,

00:35:09.740 you know,

00:35:10.860 you ask yourself,

00:35:11.800 why was the surrender

00:35:13.620 to the Taliban,

00:35:14.520 the withdrawal

00:35:15.000 from Afghanistan 0.77

00:35:15.820 so utterly incompetent 0.52

00:35:17.480 in such a disaster?

00:35:18.780 A big part of the reason

00:35:20.020 is the Biden White House

00:35:21.260 viewed it as,

00:35:22.240 hey,

00:35:22.420 we want to be out

00:35:23.880 of there

00:35:24.220 by September 11th

00:35:25.680 because then

00:35:27.240 we can show

00:35:27.880 how virtuous we are

00:35:29.200 that we withdrew

00:35:29.960 from the war

00:35:30.640 by September 11th.

00:35:31.840 The problem is

00:35:32.620 when the military said,

00:35:34.320 okay,

00:35:34.520 if we leave that early,

00:35:35.700 we need sufficient troops

00:35:37.420 to maintain

00:35:38.020 Bagram Air Force Base

00:35:39.160 and also maintain

00:35:40.120 Kabul Airport.

00:35:42.140 And the Biden White House

00:35:43.040 said,

00:35:43.320 nope,

00:35:43.740 nope,

00:35:44.000 we don't care.

00:35:44.700 Pull them out.

00:35:45.380 Abandon Bagram Air Force Base.

00:35:46.840 We don't need

00:35:47.200 a secure airfield.

00:35:48.100 We haven't evacuated anyone.

00:35:49.740 We haven't evacuated Americans. 0.60

00:35:51.020 We haven't evacuated

00:35:51.900 the Afghans

00:35:52.880 who assisted us,

00:35:53.560 but we have

00:35:54.840 a press release

00:35:55.680 to issue.

00:35:56.840 So,

00:35:57.500 ignore the national

00:35:58.720 security imperatives.

00:35:59.800 Let's issue

00:36:00.200 our press release.

00:36:01.380 I think in the case

00:36:02.400 of Gitmo,

00:36:03.040 their objective

00:36:03.560 is the same.

00:36:04.700 They want a press release

00:36:05.800 saying we are closing Gitmo.

00:36:07.340 In order to do that,

00:36:08.440 they've got to remove

00:36:09.220 the most dangerous terrorists

00:36:10.520 from Gitmo.

00:36:11.600 In order to do that,

00:36:12.700 they have to send them

00:36:13.600 to prisons

00:36:15.060 in the continental

00:36:16.260 United States.

00:36:17.120 And in order to do that,

00:36:18.140 they either have to get

00:36:19.040 a conviction

00:36:19.520 or get a plea deal.

00:36:20.620 And so I think

00:36:21.200 part of the reason

00:36:21.880 they want the plea deal

00:36:22.820 is to shut Gitmo

00:36:24.860 because they get

00:36:25.540 a good press release

00:36:26.320 from it.

00:36:26.800 But I think

00:36:27.320 the listeners of verdicts

00:36:28.980 and millions of Americans

00:36:30.600 stood up and said

00:36:32.760 no and hell no.

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Verdict with Ted Cruz - September 09, 2023

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