Verdict with Ted Cruz - May 16, 2025


CNN Has Uncovered a Scandal...that CNN Covered up Biden's Mental Decline!


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00:00:00.000 This is an iHeart Podcast.
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00:00:05.220 Welcome. It is Verdict with Senator Ted Cruz, Ben Ferguson with you.
00:00:09.700 And Senator, it is a very big week for putting out books that are full of crap.
00:00:14.980 It truly is stunning.
00:00:17.340 So Jake Tapper from CNN has a book along with Alex Thompson from Axios.
00:00:23.380 The book is entitled Original Sin, President Biden's Decline,
00:00:27.240 Its Cover-Up, and His Disastrous Choice to Run Again.
00:00:31.840 And when you talk about full of crap, I really don't think you're being fair to crap.
00:00:37.180 Like this is like a book, Arsonist Discovers a Fire He Started.
00:00:44.240 This is like a book, Tony Montana, the drug dealer, says cocaine is bad for you.
00:00:50.700 Like, yes, Jake, there was a cover-up.
00:00:53.760 An absolute, complete, total cover-up.
00:00:57.600 It was knowing.
00:00:58.880 It was deliberate.
00:01:00.560 And you did it.
00:01:02.600 You, Jake Tapper, and CNN were 24-7 engaged in the cover-up.
00:01:09.080 You knew about his mental decline, and you refused to tell anybody.
00:01:13.220 It's shocking just how bad it was.
00:01:16.160 And by the way, we have the receipts just to remind people.
00:01:19.240 No, no, you're going to hear the proof momentarily.
00:01:21.760 Yeah, and we're going to get to that because I want everyone, and this is why we do this show.
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00:02:50.420 All right, so let's go back to this lie that I think the part that blows my mind the most
00:02:56.660 is the fact that Taft River is actually probably going to get a bestseller out of this.
00:03:00.380 Everyone in the media is praising him for this incredible reporting.
00:03:03.520 And this is the guy that literally helped cover up the cognitive decline
00:03:08.000 and dismissed anyone who had brought it up on his show.
00:03:10.320 So look, the book, as I understand it, was originally written by Alex Thompson.
00:03:14.620 Alex Thompson is not nearly as well-known as Jake Tapper.
00:03:17.140 Yep.
00:03:17.500 And he had a contract with a book publishing company.
00:03:19.760 He wrote the book, and then the book publishing company decided to cancel it and said,
00:03:24.080 no, we're not going to publish this book after all.
00:03:26.380 In other words, the book publishing company engaged in yet another cover-up
00:03:30.100 because they didn't want anyone to know.
00:03:31.880 And so Thompson sought out Tapper and convinced Tapper, hey, join with me.
00:03:35.540 You're a big famous guy.
00:03:36.460 They'll publish it if your name's on it.
00:03:38.340 And Tapper said yes.
00:03:40.420 And I got to say, so there are lots of...
00:03:43.240 Never let a crisis go to waste, right?
00:03:45.000 That's exactly...
00:03:45.440 Look, and particularly a chance to make some good money.
00:03:47.480 I mean, hey, what's journalism all about if not monetizing your own hypocrisy and your own cover-up?
00:03:53.560 Look, Tapper, some of the facts that are coming out in this book.
00:03:56.340 In 2023 and 2024, Tapper and Thompson report, Biden's physical deterioration was so severe
00:04:03.700 that his advisors discussed the possibility he would need to use a wheelchair if he won re-election.
00:04:11.080 That's how bad it was.
00:04:13.520 And yet, every time anyone tried to bring up those facts,
00:04:19.920 Jake Tapper and the rest of the corporate media covered it up.
00:04:23.140 But don't take my word for it.
00:04:24.440 Listen to Jake Tapper in his own words.
00:04:27.000 This is a collection of Tapper over the years.
00:04:29.060 And this goes back to 2020.
00:04:31.200 The very beginning is him talking to one of the Trump family members,
00:04:35.300 Laura Trump, and he actually, like, ends the interview.
00:04:37.800 Like, you can't even say this on my show.
00:04:40.420 So this montage starts in 2020, then goes to 21, 22, 23, and then 24.
00:04:46.320 All throughout.
00:04:47.080 Listen, Tapper, for five years, covered this up aggressively.
00:04:50.380 Give a listen.
00:04:50.800 How do you think it makes little kids with stutters feel when they see you make a comment like that?
00:04:56.980 It's very clearly a cognitive decline.
00:04:59.600 That's what I'm referring to.
00:05:00.900 It makes me uncomfortable.
00:05:02.360 You are no...
00:05:03.680 Watch the money on stage search for questions.
00:05:04.500 It's so amazing.
00:05:05.700 It's so amazing to me that...
00:05:06.860 And try and figure out an answer.
00:05:08.840 A cognitive decline.
00:05:09.840 President Biden embraces his stutter, talking about it, while Trump mocks it, exaggerates it, belittles it.
00:05:15.260 He's sharp physically.
00:05:16.720 I mean, mentally.
00:05:18.080 Yeah.
00:05:18.240 I think the question is physically, right?
00:05:20.080 Right.
00:05:20.300 Or so?
00:05:20.780 Right.
00:05:21.060 Right.
00:05:21.300 And the guy who's his chief opponent is only three or four years younger than him.
00:05:24.580 Exactly.
00:05:24.780 I mean, you have questioned President Biden's age, mental fitness, ability to lead of those supporting Biden.
00:05:30.020 You said, quote, shame on all of you, pretending everything is okay.
00:05:32.640 You're leading us and him into a disaster.
00:05:34.160 Do you worry that you damaged him at all?
00:05:36.880 I don't doubt that you got hugs and handshakes behind closed doors today.
00:05:41.380 And maybe even publicly, some of them, because they like you personally.
00:05:45.500 But I've heard a lot of really nasty stuff about you from your Democratic colleagues.
00:05:50.240 I mean, just like, what is he thinking?
00:05:53.140 Exercise and narcissism.
00:05:54.700 I mean, false claims to the Wall Street Journal about President Biden's mental fitness and acuity.
00:06:00.380 He's 81.
00:06:01.680 And his memory, you know, it doesn't seem great.
00:06:03.820 It's not horrible, but I don't understand the outrage.
00:06:06.960 Quote, behind closed doors, Biden shows signs of slipping, unquote.
00:06:11.100 The Wall Street Journal is owned by News Corp, which is run by the Murdochs.
00:06:14.620 Beyond the headline, there is some critical nuance here.
00:06:16.820 The article is mostly based on observations of Republicans, with former Speaker Kevin McCarthy the only one going on the record.
00:06:24.280 They do note in the article that most of the criticism comes from Republicans.
00:06:27.640 Have you heard any concerns from anyone who has met with President Biden about him seeming a little slower?
00:06:35.240 No.
00:06:35.400 The Russians are trying to do to make us and the public not trust our election integrity.
00:06:41.080 Joe Biden has dimension.
00:06:42.600 All this stuff.
00:06:43.260 Let's just stop there and give the title of the book again, Senator, so people understand what they just heard and now what he's writing.
00:06:53.180 Because if you just look at the title of the book, you understand the debauchery of journalistic scumbaggery.
00:07:01.700 The title of the book is Original Sin.
00:07:04.940 President Biden's decline, its cover up and his disastrous choice to run again.
00:07:10.520 And understand, Jake Tapper, when he was saying that, he was lying.
00:07:15.880 He knew he was lying.
00:07:17.440 Everyone else on CNN knew he was lying.
00:07:19.800 They knew they were lying.
00:07:21.320 Everyone on MSNBC knew they were lying.
00:07:23.480 Everyone on ABC, NBC, CBS knew they were lying.
00:07:26.000 Everyone at the New York Times knew they were lying.
00:07:28.020 Everyone at the Washington Post knew they were lying.
00:07:30.580 Everyone knew this.
00:07:32.080 Look, one of the facts in his book, he says that at a fundraiser in June of 2024,
00:07:36.500 Joe Biden didn't recognize George Clooney, who he's known for decades.
00:07:41.500 George Clooney, by the way.
00:07:42.580 He had to be introduced like Ocean's Eleven.
00:07:45.100 What, is there a casino you're robbing?
00:07:46.440 I don't understand.
00:07:47.520 Like, Biden had no idea.
00:07:48.680 This is the same fundraiser, you remember, where Barack Obama had to lead Biden off the stage
00:07:53.700 because he was just confused and staring out in space.
00:07:56.620 And Tapper and the rest of them just lied to us and said, A-OK, no problems here.
00:08:01.360 You go back, Senator, to what you just said a moment ago.
00:08:04.140 And it's a great point here.
00:08:06.500 And it's one about the fact that they were at this fundraiser and the president didn't know, like, who George Clooney was.
00:08:14.820 You have Barack Obama having to walk him off stage.
00:08:17.340 Like, that was when everyone in his realm that they were even trying to, I think, insulate, protect him from.
00:08:23.280 They all knew then, like, this is a disaster.
00:08:25.900 And yet they still went full speed ahead with it.
00:08:28.260 No, that's exactly right.
00:08:29.780 You know, the Babylon Bee had a great headline that summed up this book.
00:08:33.320 So the Babylon Bee's headline was, quote, Jake Tapper uncovers startling evidence that Biden's decline was covered up by Jake Tapper.
00:08:41.380 And that's exactly what his book is.
00:08:45.380 And listen, listen to this week, Chuck Schumer, because it wasn't just Jake Tapper that was lying.
00:08:51.300 Every Democrat was lying.
00:08:52.480 Every Democrat senator, every Democrat governor, every Democrat House member.
00:08:55.440 They all knew Biden was seriously declining mentally.
00:08:59.860 And they all covered it up.
00:09:01.340 Schumer was one of the most shameless because he gave his own personal guarantee about how quick Biden was.
00:09:08.140 And listen this week when finally the media confronts him about his lies.
00:09:12.720 Listen to what Chuck Schumer says.
00:09:14.800 You said in June of last year, in my meeting with President Biden, I found him being command and impressive and wielding influence to make progress on key priorities.
00:09:24.780 But in that same month, Biden apparently did not even recognize George's will be a fundraiser.
00:09:30.280 Were you being straight with the American public?
00:09:32.100 Look, we're just looking forward.
00:09:33.920 I mean, it's the best answer I've ever heard from a politician, Senator.
00:09:38.340 We're just looking forward.
00:09:39.200 Hey, we got to go.
00:09:40.380 We're just looking forward and I'm walking off stage like we're just looking forward.
00:09:44.540 I mean.
00:09:45.160 So, Governor, tell me about the dead body that we found in your house.
00:09:48.320 We're just looking forward.
00:09:48.720 We're just looking straight forward.
00:09:49.940 Governor, tell me about the cocaine in the White House.
00:09:52.480 Let's just use that one.
00:09:53.200 The cocaine in the White House.
00:09:53.900 We're just looking forward.
00:09:54.640 We're just moving forward, guys.
00:09:56.280 It is Schumer, not the tiniest bit of accountability.
00:10:00.200 No.
00:10:00.560 Oh, yeah.
00:10:01.220 We're moving forward.
00:10:01.780 It's not just we're moving forward.
00:10:03.400 Of course, I was lying.
00:10:04.000 Forward moving.
00:10:04.520 The Democrats in 2025.
00:10:06.500 You know, it reminded me back, if you remember when Mitt Romney ran for president against Barack Obama.
00:10:12.380 Yes.
00:10:12.840 And Harry Reid went and lied and claimed that Mitt Romney hadn't paid income taxes.
00:10:18.400 And he just flat out lied.
00:10:19.420 Yeah, right.
00:10:19.820 And he did it on the Senate floor.
00:10:21.040 You know why he did it on the Senate floor?
00:10:22.440 Because you can't argue back with him, right?
00:10:23.760 Well, that's true.
00:10:24.740 But there's another reason he did it on the Senate floor, because the Constitution has a provision called the Speech and Debate Clause that immunizes members of Congress for speech and debate on the Senate floor.
00:10:34.320 He did it so no one could sue him.
00:10:35.760 So Mitt Romney couldn't sue him for defamation because he was lying.
00:10:40.160 And he didn't say it on TV.
00:10:41.500 Interesting.
00:10:41.860 And after the election, they asked Harry Reid about, wait, you were lying.
00:10:47.740 You had no evidence.
00:10:48.900 And Harry Reid, who was then the Democrat Senate Majority Leader, he said, well, Romney didn't win, did he?
00:10:54.440 Like, it's the same thing as Chuck Schumer.
00:10:57.100 We're just looking forward.
00:10:58.620 All right.
00:10:58.880 Listen to now Biden's National Security Advisor, Jake Sullivan, who worked with Biden every day in the White House and so knew to an absolute certainty that Biden was severely mentally ill.
00:11:11.860 But listen to what Jake Sullivan said.
00:11:15.060 What happened in that debate was a shock to me.
00:11:17.040 I think it was a shock to everybody.
00:11:18.740 And I've made that point before.
00:11:21.040 Just finally, do you think, in retrospect, given everything that's happened, everything we've talked about today, it was a mistake for President Biden to try to run again?
00:11:30.040 One of the things about being National Security Advisor is that you're mercifully insulated from politics and political decision making.
00:11:38.120 I was insulated from it to the point where, while I was National Security Advisor, my spouse was running for Congress, and I had strict rules about what I could even do to support my spouse, let alone be involved in political decision making, political calls in the White House.
00:11:54.620 So I have not weighed in on those issues and would not weigh in on those issues.
00:11:58.420 Let's just be clear.
00:11:59.760 I've known National Security Advisors.
00:12:01.560 That is the biggest load of crap I've ever heard.
00:12:03.220 All right.
00:12:03.480 I'm just going to point out something really funny.
00:12:06.060 There's something about Democrat men that makes them weenies.
00:12:09.580 Yeah.
00:12:09.780 So he says, my spouse was running for Congress.
00:12:13.980 So he is actually married to a woman.
00:12:16.000 Yep.
00:12:16.660 Ben, can you imagine any circumstance in which you refer to your wife as my spouse?
00:12:21.400 No.
00:12:21.540 I mean, isn't, like, I don't know a man who refers to his wife as my spouse.
00:12:25.720 My spouse who's running for Congress.
00:12:27.120 My wife who is running for Congress.
00:12:28.580 Like that would be the love of my life.
00:12:30.420 The way, like, normal human beings would communicate, but not Democrat apparatchiks.
00:12:36.400 Yours would be my smoking hot wife who's running for Congress.
00:12:38.740 You better believe it.
00:12:40.160 And by the way.
00:12:40.940 Do I know you well or do I know you well?
00:12:42.380 Any chance to praise.
00:12:45.600 Praise your wife, not your spouse, right?
00:12:47.560 Yes.
00:12:47.700 Yes.
00:12:48.000 My smoking hot wife is exactly the way to put it.
00:12:53.060 I set you up for success there.
00:12:54.500 I just want to know.
00:12:55.160 Well done.
00:12:55.260 If there's anything you should clip from this pod and send to your wife, be like,
00:12:58.820 go to this minute mark in the pod, honey.
00:13:00.880 You made the pod again.
00:13:01.500 Actually, look, as you know, Heidi listens to the podcast.
00:13:04.320 So that'll be, she'll be listening.
00:13:05.740 See, this is a litmus test.
00:13:07.480 One day I said something about my wife in my show, and I wanted to see if she heard
00:13:12.400 it.
00:13:12.760 And like her friends text her, like, Ben said something about you.
00:13:15.620 And she's like, what'd you say about me?
00:13:16.820 I was like, well, if you listen to the show, you would have known.
00:13:18.640 It was like a great, you know.
00:13:19.680 That was a mistake.
00:13:21.360 Don't do that.
00:13:22.200 I told you so.
00:13:23.060 You will only pay the price for that.
00:13:24.680 I was like, yeah, I'm just saying.
00:13:25.600 I'm just saying.
00:13:26.260 I want to ask you on a very serious note here.
00:13:31.180 You look at the hypocrisy, but the most disturbing thing for me coming out of this book and out
00:13:36.600 of the Axios reporting is that the cabinet members worried about his capacity specifically
00:13:44.580 in a crisis.
00:13:46.040 Now, there's been interesting reporting, and I just want to put it in perspective.
00:13:51.160 He has the bad debate.
00:13:53.120 There was real conversations, we were told, and there's reporting on this about the possibility
00:13:57.680 of invoking the 25th.
00:13:59.440 Not because they were afraid.
00:14:00.960 I go back to the, you know, worried about the capacity in a crisis.
00:14:05.500 They just didn't want to lose the election.
00:14:06.900 It was all politics.
00:14:08.220 They were perfectly fine having someone with dementia who was not capable of decision-making
00:14:12.740 as president, as commander-in-chief.
00:14:14.980 So this Jake Tapper comedy book includes the revelation that multiple cabinet members were
00:14:21.180 worried that he could not be relied on at a time of crisis because his mental diminution
00:14:25.940 was so great.
00:14:27.600 One cabinet secretary said Biden's top aides, quote, shielded him in every meeting.
00:14:32.320 From October 2023 on, quote, the cabinet was kept at bay.
00:14:36.580 Another, quote, for months, we didn't have access to him.
00:14:39.480 There was clearly a deliberate strategy by the White House to have him meet with as few
00:14:42.500 people as necessary.
00:14:44.120 Another cabinet secretary says at one rare meeting during the time, that cabinet secretary
00:14:49.080 was, quote, shocked by how the president was acting.
00:14:51.680 He seemed disoriented, and out of it, his mouth agape.
00:14:55.940 They knew.
00:14:56.960 They were worried.
00:14:57.880 And you know what?
00:14:58.660 If our enemies attacked us, this was the commander-in-chief that the Democrats and CNN
00:15:03.580 and the lying corporate media was telling us could protect us.
00:15:06.920 And look, I don't know that I'd trust him to operate the remote control on the television
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00:15:43.280 By the way, are they going to put this under fiction or nonfiction?
00:15:45.740 That's what I want to know when you go to the store, right?
00:15:47.660 If you go look for it.
00:15:48.560 Well, sadly, I think they'll put it under nonfiction, which they should, because it
00:15:52.900 is true that Joe Biden has had a massive mental deterioration.
00:15:56.360 What they should put under fiction is what Jake says on TV every day.
00:15:59.800 That's the fiction part.
00:16:00.940 The irony is, this may be the one true thing Jake Tapper has written or said in the last
00:16:06.120 five years.
00:16:06.420 He didn't really write it.
00:16:06.780 Hold on.
00:16:07.180 The guy from Access wrote it.
00:16:08.160 That's actually true.
00:16:08.960 It was someone else who wrote it, and Tapper put his name on it.
00:16:11.240 But by accident, he told the truth, except for the fact that he didn't admit that he's
00:16:15.900 been lying to the country the entire time Biden was in the White House.
00:16:19.320 So let's go back to the cabinet members, because this is the big question.
00:16:23.660 I was doing Fox and I Waters World.
00:16:26.020 Kayleigh McEnany was filling in for the White House Press Secretary, and she was talking about
00:16:29.800 when some of this was starting to break.
00:16:32.200 And I said, look, the headlines are amazing.
00:16:34.280 But I said, the real question that I think we should all be asking, and I want your take
00:16:38.280 on this, is if all this is true, and I have no reason to believe it's not, who the hell
00:16:44.300 was the President of the United States of America?
00:16:46.660 Who was running the country?
00:16:48.320 Was it 30 people that were elected by no one?
00:16:51.720 I don't think it was one person.
00:16:54.340 I think there's a very good chance that the FBI was the President of the FBI, and the DOD
00:16:59.200 was the President.
00:16:59.780 I mean, who the hell was running the country?
00:17:01.640 I don't think so, actually.
00:17:02.940 All right, that's what I want to ask you.
00:17:04.000 I've been asked that question probably a thousand times.
00:17:07.080 And I'm going to give you the most terrifying answer you can imagine.
00:17:10.960 I don't know.
00:17:12.520 Okay.
00:17:12.760 I genuinely don't know.
00:17:15.000 I think it was Barack Obama.
00:17:18.320 I think it was Barack Obama.
00:17:19.640 Barack Obama-
00:17:20.460 Certainly his minions.
00:17:21.220 ...is the only President in modern times who at the end of his presidency stayed in D.C.,
00:17:25.700 bought a big house in Calorama, every night their car's in the driveway, and all of his
00:17:30.400 little apparatchik minions are in the White House.
00:17:34.220 And I think it was a combination of the children who were staffers.
00:17:36.880 When Joe Biden's White House was filled with staffers, I want people to understand this.
00:17:41.700 This is well reported, but this is really important right now for this story.
00:17:45.740 It was well reported on that Biden and his team were the one that placed everyone in
00:17:51.080 the positions of power in the Biden-
00:17:52.600 I mean, Obama, I should say.
00:17:53.740 Excuse me.
00:17:54.040 Obama and his team placed everyone basically in position of powers in the Biden administration.
00:17:58.820 So look, in four years of the Biden presidency, I'm in the Senate the whole time.
00:18:03.940 How many times do you think I spoke with Joe Biden while he was president?
00:18:07.640 I would say one to three.
00:18:09.360 Zero.
00:18:10.800 And I was saying one to three because I thought they were protecting him.
00:18:12.840 So you're saying as a senator, that's not normal.
00:18:14.880 People need to understand that.
00:18:15.860 Not a single time.
00:18:17.000 And that is bizarre.
00:18:18.180 How many times with Obama, for example?
00:18:19.700 Lots of times.
00:18:20.400 I mean, I spoke with Obama regularly with Trump.
00:18:23.660 I speak with him often every week, sometimes multiple times a week.
00:18:28.500 It is part of the job of being a senator to work with the president, to talk with the
00:18:33.440 president, even the president of the opposing party.
00:18:36.500 Were there ever big lulls with Obama, for example?
00:18:38.540 I'm trying to really paint a picture here of how insane it is you didn't talk to him for
00:18:42.140 four years.
00:18:42.860 It's bizarre.
00:18:44.100 And the thing to understand is we all know Joe Biden.
00:18:47.560 He was in the Senate for 40 years.
00:18:50.440 He was a man of the Senate.
00:18:51.580 When I was first elected to the Senate in 2012, Joe Biden swore me in.
00:18:55.840 In fact, I'll tell you-
00:18:56.680 Without the cognitive decline.
00:18:57.460 And he was fine.
00:18:58.360 No, when he was vice president, 13 years ago, he did not have cognitive decline.
00:19:02.200 And in fact, it was funny.
00:19:03.720 So my girls, you know my daughters, they're 14 and 17.
00:19:07.440 When I was sworn in, they were two and four.
00:19:09.320 They were little bitty.
00:19:10.800 And my two-year-old, Catherine, Biden leaned over to pick her up.
00:19:15.640 And she screamed.
00:19:16.540 She screamed really loudly.
00:19:18.280 And Biden said, it's okay.
00:19:19.620 It's okay.
00:19:20.220 It's a Democrat, but it's okay.
00:19:22.080 And that was actually quite funny.
00:19:23.480 And I laughed.
00:19:24.240 And you know how Time Magazine does little quotes of, like, the quotes of the week?
00:19:27.620 Yeah.
00:19:28.120 That next week, the quote of the week was, it's okay.
00:19:31.320 It's okay.
00:19:31.840 It's a Democrat, but it's okay.
00:19:33.260 Vice President Joe Biden to Catherine Cruz, age two.
00:19:36.740 And I've said, you know, when Catherine is married, hopefully a long, long time from now,
00:19:41.680 I intend to read that quote at her wedding and say, even at age two, Catherine knew if a Democrat tries to pick you up, scream loudly.
00:19:52.020 I like that one.
00:19:53.400 So where do we go from?
00:19:55.100 And by the way, when I say I didn't speak with him for four years, that was true of virtually every Republican senator.
00:20:01.640 So we would sit down.
00:20:02.460 Were there that many Democrat senators that were talking to him?
00:20:03.920 I mean, they think.
00:20:04.560 A little more.
00:20:05.180 The Democrats talked to him a little more.
00:20:06.200 Early on, because they were insulating him from what the book's saying from, like, everyone.
00:20:09.740 Right. So they talked to him a little more.
00:20:13.160 When the Senate's in session, Republican senators have lunch together every Tuesday, Wednesday, and Thursday.
00:20:17.540 So we talk at lunch.
00:20:18.500 They're working lunches.
00:20:19.520 They're very productive.
00:20:20.700 We would sit at lunch and talk about how weird it was that none of us had spoken to Biden, had been to the White House to see him.
00:20:27.620 And we all knew him.
00:20:28.760 They were clearly hiding him.
00:20:30.800 I actually remember one of my colleagues, John Kennedy, a good friend, senator from Louisiana.
00:20:34.640 He was one of the few who had seen Biden one time.
00:20:37.620 And he actually told us all the story.
00:20:39.000 We're sitting at the table.
00:20:40.180 He said, look, he had passed a bill.
00:20:42.040 He said it was a fairly minor bill, but it was a bipartisan bill that had passed.
00:20:46.300 And Biden did a bill signing.
00:20:48.340 And so they brought him over.
00:20:49.680 Traditionally, you go to the White House.
00:20:50.220 Yeah, they brought him over because they wanted to say, look how bipartisan we were.
00:20:53.300 So Kennedy was in the Oval and Biden was there.
00:20:56.320 And Kennedy started striking up a conversation with Biden.
00:20:59.420 And John knew him like we all did.
00:21:01.080 And and Biden asked, so, John, you ever seen the cabinet room and John Kennedy being John Kennedy?
00:21:08.380 He said, I lied and said, no.
00:21:11.020 And he said, come on, let's go.
00:21:12.220 Yeah.
00:21:12.440 And you knew where that was going.
00:21:13.500 You say no to that question.
00:21:14.560 Yeah.
00:21:14.680 And so he takes him in there and he said, Biden begins telling stories from like 40 or 50 years ago.
00:21:22.140 And and Kennedy said the White House staff comes in freaking out.
00:21:25.800 Mr.
00:21:25.960 President, you got to go.
00:21:26.540 You got to go.
00:21:27.060 And Biden yells at him.
00:21:28.240 Shut up.
00:21:28.620 I'm telling stories.
00:21:30.280 And he said he went on for like 30, 40 minutes.
00:21:32.880 And it was like listening to your grandfather.
00:21:35.440 Tell the same stories.
00:21:36.360 Tell the same stories like 50 years ago.
00:21:38.740 They can remember.
00:21:40.020 But but don't ask him what's happening today.
00:21:41.580 And that was and he was literally at my lunch table.
00:21:45.000 I remember he was the only one of us who had seen Biden since he's been president.
00:21:48.880 And and that was his one experience with it.
00:21:51.140 Will there be anything now that the music, except this is fact, they're reporting on his fact.
00:21:56.580 Cabinet members were worried about his capacity in a crisis.
00:21:59.920 That's what they've said.
00:22:01.840 Is there going to be any oversight slash investigation?
00:22:06.060 Should there be from Congress?
00:22:07.680 And I know that's a weird question because there's somebody like, look, we won.
00:22:10.560 Let's move on.
00:22:11.320 But like I do actually, as an American citizen, want to know who is running the United States of America that was elected by no one.
00:22:19.300 I want to know who was calling the shots.
00:22:21.340 It was elected by no one, because whether I win or lose an election, my vote should not be canceled.
00:22:26.080 By by some sort of dictator or tyrant within an administration that no one knows who's running a government.
00:22:31.960 And by the way, there's a related question to that, Ben, which is we've seen the stories that apparently a substantial number of official things that Biden signed were signed by the auto pen.
00:22:41.020 So was he even making the decision to sign that?
00:22:43.220 And he didn't even seem to know, like some of the pardons.
00:22:45.880 And I actually think you'll have this litigated.
00:22:48.140 I don't I don't not aware of any court that's ever decided is is a pardon.
00:22:53.120 Does a pardon have to actually be signed by the president?
00:22:55.680 So, look, every elected official has an auto pen.
00:22:58.140 I have an auto pen.
00:22:58.980 And so for things like constituent correspondence, if you write in to your senator, you'll get a response back.
00:23:04.780 And we try to respond substantively in the auto pen will sign it.
00:23:07.580 And I get millions of those letters.
00:23:08.820 So I couldn't physically sign them all.
00:23:10.880 All I'm thinking about right now is how where that auto pen is and how much fun I can have.
00:23:14.000 But keep going.
00:23:14.740 But look, it's fine for if something like correspondence.
00:23:18.480 A birthday wish.
00:23:19.780 But the question is for something that has legal force of law.
00:23:23.620 And I actually want to know, did they use the auto pen to sign any legislation?
00:23:27.080 Because it's not clear to me legislation that the president didn't sign has legal force.
00:23:32.140 The auto pen is not the commander in chief and the chief executive.
00:23:35.500 What about judges, for example?
00:23:36.460 If he did an auto pen, which means he I'm truly convinced that he didn't know what was going on.
00:23:42.180 He didn't know who he's appointing.
00:23:43.560 He probably didn't know who he was pardoning.
00:23:45.500 And if that's happening, then...
00:23:47.140 The pardons are where it'll be litigated.
00:23:48.380 Okay.
00:23:49.200 And that will be...
00:23:49.940 And why is that so different?
00:23:51.580 Because, look, it's interesting.
00:23:53.440 Like a pardon under the Constitution, all you have to have is a document from the president
00:23:58.120 that said, you know, I pardoned Ben Ferguson.
00:24:02.340 And suddenly, actually, only if it's a federal offense.
00:24:04.980 So he can't do it for a state offense.
00:24:05.940 Only if it's a federal offense, yeah.
00:24:07.360 The abuse I take.
00:24:08.600 The abuse I take.
00:24:09.560 But it literally, there's no pomp and circumstance.
00:24:13.580 It doesn't have to have gold leaf on the paper.
00:24:16.040 It doesn't have to be an official.
00:24:17.500 It's just a piece of paper.
00:24:19.420 With a signature.
00:24:19.980 With those words and a signature.
00:24:21.420 That is legally a pardon.
00:24:23.900 But if you don't actually have a signature...
00:24:26.020 Listen, I've been in the Oval dozens of times, probably more, when President Trump is signing
00:24:31.820 things.
00:24:32.260 And he pulls out...
00:24:33.020 He actually...
00:24:33.980 So have you seen the president's signing pen?
00:24:36.340 Oh, yeah.
00:24:36.600 I've got one of the big Sharpies with a signature on the Sharpie.
00:24:40.040 It's massive.
00:24:40.140 It's huge.
00:24:40.200 Like, most presidents use, like, a Sharpie to have a signing pen.
00:24:43.780 But President Trump's...
00:24:44.900 It's a marker that's probably, what, 10 inches long?
00:24:48.520 And maybe...
00:24:49.040 And it's gold.
00:24:49.880 It has, like, gold.
00:24:50.700 It's signature and gold on it.
00:24:51.920 And, like, an inch in diameter.
00:24:52.720 Like, it's...
00:24:53.680 It is massive.
00:24:54.900 But he signs one after the other, after the other, after the other, because that's what
00:24:59.180 gives it legal force of law.
00:25:00.640 Well, if you have a president that's mentally incompetent, and you have staffers running
00:25:05.000 thing, it makes you wonder.
00:25:07.800 Dr. Fauci's pardon.
00:25:10.060 Did Biden sign it?
00:25:11.300 I don't know.
00:25:11.700 Yeah.
00:25:12.000 And if it's the auto pen, which I'm sure they can figure that out.
00:25:15.540 It will be...
00:25:16.780 It's an interesting question.
00:25:18.820 You know, I'll say a few more of these quotes from the cabinet members.
00:25:21.960 Um, the cabinet members in this book, uh, described, said, one, said, quote, the staff
00:25:29.660 did him wrong.
00:25:30.580 If you were with him every day and you knew this was going to be a problem, why didn't
00:25:34.300 you go to him and say something?
00:25:36.140 Another said, quote, access dropped off considerably in 2024, and I didn't interact with him as much.
00:25:42.360 Uh, a third said, quote, yes, the president is making the decisions, but if the inner circle
00:25:47.420 is shaping them in such a way, is it really a decision?
00:25:50.940 And here was another cabinet secretary.
00:25:53.360 I don't think he has dementia, but the thing is, he's an old man.
00:25:56.660 The president can give you four to six good hours a day when he got tired.
00:26:00.000 Sloppy isn't the right word, but his guard was down.
00:26:03.040 That would be the commander in chief of the United States.
00:26:05.340 I want to go back to the last quote, Senator, that you just said about the people around the
00:26:10.620 president.
00:26:11.560 Now that it's over, now that everybody knows the cognitive decline, now that the books are
00:26:15.960 being written, they're telling you they may have only gotten four hours a day out of
00:26:20.140 the president of the United States of America.
00:26:21.440 That is maybe one of the most shocking statements I've ever heard about any president.
00:26:25.420 Yeah, look, it's, he was not mentally capable to do the job.
00:26:30.080 They knew it and they lied about it.
00:26:31.500 And by the way, Jake Tapper's whole premise that, gosh, little old me, Jake was deceived.
00:26:36.540 They just didn't tell me the truth.
00:26:37.940 I just didn't know.
00:26:38.980 Well, Jake, if you listened to verdict, we were telling you the facts and we were telling
00:26:44.760 you the facts early on here.
00:26:46.240 I want you to go back to January of 2024.
00:26:48.980 I want you to listen to a segment of Ben and me in the podcast back in January of 24,
00:26:53.840 talking about Biden's deterioration.
00:26:56.320 Give a listen.
00:26:56.680 You and I and kind of anyone with eyes and common sense have been observing for a long
00:27:03.840 time that Joe Biden's cognitive decline is massive, but it's easy for some observers to
00:27:11.660 dismiss that and say, you know, these, these guys are biased.
00:27:14.380 They're partisans.
00:27:15.160 They don't like Biden.
00:27:16.200 So what they're saying is not true.
00:27:17.680 Now, in this instance, the people speaking are the Biden Department of Justice and not
00:27:27.000 any Department of Justice.
00:27:28.420 This is a Department of Justice that has proven itself the most politicized and partisan Department
00:27:33.660 of Justice in history.
00:27:35.600 And they have argued.
00:27:38.080 So, for example, I'm going to read you a paragraph from the report in his interview with our office.
00:27:44.160 Mr. Biden's memory was worse.
00:27:46.540 He did not remember when he was vice president, forgetting on the first day of the interview
00:27:53.640 when his term ended, quote, if it was 2013, when did I stop being vice president and forgetting
00:28:01.320 on the second day of the interview when his term began, quote, in 2009, am I still vice president?
00:28:09.400 He did not remember even within several years when his son, Beau, died and his memory appeared
00:28:19.840 hazy when describing the Afghanistan debate that was once so important to him.
00:28:25.900 Among other things, he mistakenly said he, quote, had a real difference of opinion with General
00:28:35.000 Carl Eitkenberry when, in fact, Eitkenberry was an ally whom Mr. Biden cited approvingly in
00:28:44.000 his Thanksgiving memo to President Obama.
00:28:46.160 All of that was authored by the Biden Department of Justice.
00:28:51.380 And when they are describing the sitting president as a well-meaning elderly man with a poor memory,
00:28:59.940 the natural question for anyone to say is, holy crap, if he's not competent to stand trial,
00:29:06.260 why is he the commander in chief with the authority to send our sons and daughters into harm's way?
00:29:12.340 Why does he have access to the nuclear codes?
00:29:15.460 Understand, the description here, they say you couldn't charge him with a crime because
00:29:19.900 he's not aware of enough to have the requisite mental intent.
00:29:24.700 And yet, Joe Biden tonight, if he so desired, could literally exterminate humanity from the
00:29:31.280 face of the planet.
00:29:32.740 As commander in chief, if he gave the order, launch the nuclear weapons now, unless the military
00:29:41.520 refused to obey the commander in chief, Joe Biden could exterminate every life on this
00:29:47.080 planet.
00:29:48.020 And if he's not mentally competent to stand trial, that is terrifying.
00:29:53.480 So that was a year and a half ago.
00:29:55.140 Yeah, a year and a half ago on this podcast and understand the entire basis of Tapper's
00:29:59.900 book is he couldn't possibly know about known about this mental decline.
00:30:03.060 The Department of Justice, and this would be the Biden Department of Justice, went into court.
00:30:07.360 So the Robert Herr report, remember, they did not prosecute Biden.
00:30:11.820 And when was that?
00:30:12.560 I wonder, do you remember the time frame on that?
00:30:14.240 That was early 24.
00:30:16.080 Yeah, early 24.
00:30:17.080 We covered it a lot.
00:30:18.040 And that was them interviewing him in 23.
00:30:20.540 Right.
00:30:21.020 So in 23, when they were interviewing Joe Biden, they then in 24 told America, he's so
00:30:27.620 bad off, we can't even charge him with anything.
00:30:29.880 So they concluded if they charged him, he would be found not competent to be convicted.
00:30:36.680 That is a stunning look.
00:30:37.820 There's a standard.
00:30:38.520 There are people that are not competent to be tried.
00:30:40.600 If you have dementia, if you're like mentally ill, that you're not able, that the legal standard
00:30:45.780 is you have to form what's called mens rea, which is intent.
00:30:49.000 And they said, well, he's so old and senile, we can't charge him.
00:30:52.640 So that's why they said, oh, yeah, he clearly violated the law.
00:30:55.280 He committed a felony.
00:30:56.100 Remember, he kept classified materials everywhere, including his garage next to his antique car.
00:31:01.640 Not a joke.
00:31:02.340 That's real.
00:31:03.340 And they said he was guilty of that, but they couldn't charge him because he was incompetent
00:31:08.300 to stand trial.
00:31:08.820 I want you to listen in 2023 to me laying out that his mental decline and MSNBC, Morning
00:31:15.920 Joe, making fun of me for it.
00:31:17.820 This is like one of their big intros.
00:31:19.820 May 4th, 2023.
00:31:23.160 2011.
00:31:23.600 When Republicans in the House stood strong on the debt ceiling, again, because Democrats
00:31:30.560 had had majority of the Congress for two years, had passed trillions in irresponsible spending,
00:31:35.840 and Republicans stood strong and said, we will not raise the debt ceiling without serious
00:31:40.920 fiscal reform.
00:31:41.900 What happened?
00:31:42.420 Then Vice President Joe Biden came and negotiated a deal, a deal called the Budget Control Act.
00:31:49.940 Vice President Biden sat down with House Republicans and reached a meaningful compromise.
00:31:56.900 President Joe Biden needs to do the same thing.
00:31:59.640 And I'll say, sadly, the reason he hasn't so far, I believe, is because his mental faculties
00:32:08.840 are too diminished right now.
00:32:10.600 You know, you know, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on.
00:32:14.120 What?
00:32:14.980 He has such a point.
00:32:16.460 Yes.
00:32:16.820 His mental faculties are so diminished.
00:32:19.380 Yeah.
00:32:20.120 That he passed more bipartisan, signed more bipartisan legislation.
00:32:24.820 I didn't even know he was doing it.
00:32:26.240 Last year than any president since LBJ.
00:32:32.720 My God, if he were as cogent as he had been in 2011, he could have gone back to FDR.
00:32:40.780 What else he did without apparently realizing what he was doing?
00:32:44.880 He, like, held NATO together to fight Russian aggression in Ukraine.
00:32:50.320 And my God, I know he only increased the 800-mile border, NATO, with Russia.
00:32:59.300 Exactly.
00:32:59.480 But I guess he, you know, he thought he was.
00:33:01.700 I hate it when that happens.
00:33:02.660 You know, it reminds me of Ronald Reagan when he was speaking at Harvard, a Eureka College
00:33:07.600 grad.
00:33:08.040 And he's sitting there talking to the grads.
00:33:09.840 And he's making fun of his education at the end.
00:33:12.140 He goes, you know, sometimes I just sit here with a presidential seal in front of him.
00:33:16.780 And I wonder what I could have been with a good education.
00:33:22.380 Tim Cruz, go back and read Reagan.
00:33:25.540 Eugene Robinson, David Ignatius.
00:33:27.300 Go back and read Reagan, he says, by golly.
00:33:29.680 I mean, I love this.
00:33:30.880 And by the way, we do know who was doing it now.
00:33:32.480 It was either A, an auto pin or a bunch of old staffers.
00:33:35.080 So I'm curious.
00:33:36.840 I may have missed this, but has Joe Scarborough apologized for lying to America?
00:33:41.400 No.
00:33:42.220 He's probably writing a book about the decline of Joe Biden.
00:33:44.740 Has Mika apologized, has MSNBC, has NBC, have any of them apologized?
00:33:49.280 They knew he was mentally diminished and they covered it up because they were partisans and
00:33:54.700 they supported his agenda to heck with whether we had a competent commander in chief or not.
00:33:59.700 It's truly an incredible story.
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