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Verdict with Ted Cruz
- May 25, 2024
Corporate Media Defends Cohen, Can Dems get Onboard w IVF & Blinken on Arming Israel Contrary to WH Week In Review
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This is an iHeart Podcast.
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Guaranteed human.
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Welcome to Verdict with Ted Cruz.
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Week in Review, Ben Ferguson with you,
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and these are the big stories that you might have missed
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that we talked about this week.
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Number one, the corporate media covering
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and trying to tell you because Michael Cohen lies so much,
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maybe that means he's actually being honest
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during the Trump trial.
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So will this Jedi mind trick work on the jurors?
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We're gonna talk about it.
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Also, can Democrats actually put politics aside for a moment
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and get on board with protecting IVF with a federal bill?
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Senator Cruz talks about the important legislation
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that he has proposed.
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And finally, Anthony Blinken lying,
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saying we have not withheld arms from Israel.
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Well, guess who says he's lying?
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The White House saying, yes, we did pause the shipments.
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We'll have all of that.
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It's the Week in Review, and it starts right now.
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The prosecution's argument is Michael Cohen is a liar,
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but he's a thief, too.
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Like, that's kind of a problem.
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But you know what?
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The corporate media is so corrupt, they're trying to defend him.
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Listen to Lawrence O'Donnell from MSNBC
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trying to explain that the fact that Cohen was stealing from Trump,
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it's really not a problem.
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It's okay.
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Inside the courtroom, even there almost every day,
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you have the strength of beyond mortal men.
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But what was worth it to you today?
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What did you see?
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What did you hear?
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Well, you know, the courtroom is where I began
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as a writer and a reporter a long time ago.
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So this is a homecoming for me in terms of a workplace.
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The shocking thing at the end of that cross-examination,
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and I just can't tell you how,
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just how stunning it was,
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because it's the thing that I was waiting for.
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I saw everything Todd Blanche.
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I've seen every minute of cross-examination.
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I've seen every single question he's asked.
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And he sat down and ended his cross-examination
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without asking a single question
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about the $130,000 that appears on the Allen Weisselberg notes
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about how they were structuring the payment to Michael Cohen.
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He asked about the $50,000 that's irrelevant to the $130,000,
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and that's where he very effectively got Michael Cohen to say
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to agree that, yes, he stole $30,000.
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Later, when Cohen was asked about that on redirect by the prosecution,
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it didn't really sound like stealing $30,000.
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It sounded a lot like Michael Cohen
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doing the little that he could within that calculation
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to rebalance the bonus he thought he deserved,
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and it still came out as less than the bonus he thought he deserved
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and the bonus he'd gotten the year before.
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I mean, I love how he's, like, justifying the stealing
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because he thought he deserved the bonus.
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You know, trying to rebalance the bonus.
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You know, if you steal from your employer,
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you're just trying to rebalance what they're paying you
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because you know you're worth more, so steal away.
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That is MSNBC's defense.
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Yeah, and it's not a big deal to pay people
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in brown paper bags for work, right?
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That's also very normal, apparently, in the minds of MSNBC as well.
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So we'll completely overlook that as well.
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Final question on this.
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Donald Trump, you're right, not going to take the stand.
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That, I think, is obviously a smart decision, as you described it.
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I think it was in the last podcast, the one before that.
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He's not going to.
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Yeah, which is what we predicted on this podcast
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before that decision was made.
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I said on this podcast,
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the chances that Donald Trump will go on the stand are 0.00%.
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Well, that was proven right.
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He's not going on the stand
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because his lawyers are not incompetent in committing malpractice.
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So when you're looking at this now,
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what do you think is going to happen?
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What's your gut?
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I don't know.
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I remain worried.
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Listen, on the merits, this case is frivolous.
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And I will point out also that the judge,
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one of the things he did is he blocked the Trump campaign
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from putting on the witness stand the former chairman of the FEC,
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Brad Smith.
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Brad Smith is a law professor,
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is one of the most well-respected campaign finance experts in the country.
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Campaign finance law is famously complicated.
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And Brad Smith was prepared to testify that paying hush money
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does not constitute a campaign expense.
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If that's correct, the entire case goes out the window.
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And it's interesting.
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So after the judge blocked him from testifying,
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Smith did an interview,
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did an interview with the Washington Examiner
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where he described what he would have testified to.
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And Smith said,
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here's what Smith said,
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quote,
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judges instruct the juries on the law
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and they don't want a battle of competing experts saying,
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here's what the law is.
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They feel it's their province to make that determination.
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The problem is, of course,
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is that campaign finance law is extremely complex
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and just reading the statute to people
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isn't really going to help them very much.
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The goal of his testimony, Smith said,
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was, quote,
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to lay out the ways the laws has been interpreted
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in ways that might not be obvious.
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As an example,
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Smith cited the phrase, quote,
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for the purpose of influencing an election,
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which has been heard during much analysis of the trial.
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Quote,
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you read the law and it says that anything intended
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for the purpose of influencing an election
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is a contribution or an expenditure,
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Smith explained.
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But that's not, in fact,
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the entirety of the law.
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There is the obscure
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and separate from the definitional part,
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idea of personal use,
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which is a separate part of the law
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that says you can't divert campaign funds
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to personal use.
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That has a number of specific prohibitions,
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like you can't buy a country club membership,
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you can't normally pay yourself a salary
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or living expenses,
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you can't go on vacation,
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all those kinds of things.
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And then it includes a broader general prohibition
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that says you can't divert campaign funds
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to any obligation that would exist
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even if you were not running for office.
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What's the point of that?
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Quote,
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we would have liked to flag that exception for the jury
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and to talk a little bit about what it means.
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And also we would have talked about,
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quote,
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for the purpose of influencing an election
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is not a subjective test,
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like what was my intention.
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It's an objective test.
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So hiring campaign staff
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is for the purpose of influencing an election.
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Renting space for your campaign office,
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buying ads,
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maybe doing polling,
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printing up bumper stickers,
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travel to campaign rallies,
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renting venues for campaign rallies.
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All those things exist
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only because you're running for office.
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But under the personal use rules,
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a lot of things candidates do running for office
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are not considered campaign expenditures.
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Things like paying for a weight loss program
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or a gym membership,
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nicer clothes,
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teeth whitening,
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or all that sort of thing.
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It may be true that you do those things in part
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to help get yourself elected
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and you might not do them otherwise
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because,
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but they are not obligations that exist
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simply because you're running for office.
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Lots of people do those things.
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And,
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and,
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and what he argued is,
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is,
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is that in this instance,
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I can tell you it is my personal belief
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is that clearly paying hush money
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or paying for a non-disclosure agreement
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does not constitute a campaign expense.
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That's what the former FEC chairman
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would have testified to.
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Quote,
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to use an example I've often used,
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it's not a campaign expense
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if a business person is running for office
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and his businesses are getting sued
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and he goes to his company's lawyers
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and say,
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I wish to settle these lawsuits against us.
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We've got some wage employment lawsuits
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and a woman is alleging sexual harassment.
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We've got 36,000 employees.
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We've got to make these three complaints
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and the press will make a big deal about them.
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So I want you to settle these.
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And the company lawyers say,
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no,
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these are great cases we should win.
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We shouldn't settle them.
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He says,
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I don't care.
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I'm running for office.
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I don't want press stories on it.
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I want them,
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you to settle them quietly.
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Well,
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he cannot use campaign funds
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to pay that settlement
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even though he's clearly doing it
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for the purpose of influencing his campaign.
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It's kind of similar
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to what went on here,
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Smith continued.
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Quote,
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so my personal belief
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is that this clearly
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would not have been
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a campaign expenditure,
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never had to be reported
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and therefore was not misreported.
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And you know what the judge said?
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The jury can't hear a word of that
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because it demonstrates,
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he didn't say this part,
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but because it demonstrates
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that the prosecutor's case
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is utter and complete garbage.
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Lastly,
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on this issue,
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Senator,
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the war on truth
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is really,
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I think,
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incredible.
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You can see it,
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and you mentioned this earlier
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in the media's coverage
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of the Trump case.
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You had MSNBC,
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you and I were texting
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back and forth on this
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because it was a headline
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that was so laughable,
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and the headline was
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how Michael Cohen's past lies
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make him a more credible witness.
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And they weren't the only ones
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to try to pull this,
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you know,
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Jedi mind trick on people.
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The New York Times
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had a headline,
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it says,
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when Michael Cohen's lies
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helped the case against Trump.
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What world are we living in
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where this is what the media
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comes up with afterwards
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is spin it?
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Well, listen,
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number one,
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the media,
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unfortunately,
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regularly lies.
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They engage in lies.
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They view their role
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as propagandists.
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It's not,
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they're not interested
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in the truth,
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they're not interested
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in reporting both sides,
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they're not interested
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in facts,
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they frame their mission
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as saving democracy,
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which means pushing
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this country to the left,
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and as it concerns
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Donald Trump,
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it means doing everything
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you can to destroy Trump
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and make sure,
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no matter what,
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that he's not re-elected
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President of the United States.
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The spins are rather pitiful.
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The idea that,
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well, you know what,
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Cohen lies so much
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that he's really
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a believable witness.
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Like,
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that's just weird,
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and I gotta say,
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the media's lies
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about Cohen's lies
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making him more credible
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are so absurd,
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it just shows
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they're really bad liars.
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Now,
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if you want to hear
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the rest of this conversation,
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you can go back
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and listen to the full podcast
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from earlier this week.
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more out of themselves,
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their businesses,
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their elected leaders,
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and the world around them.
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And that's why
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Now on to story number two.
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I'm thankful
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that you're doing this.
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I'm thankful
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that you're teaming up.
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I hope that Democrats
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will say,
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this is a non-political issue
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and we should push for this
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because everybody needs
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to be able to have this
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and that right
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and be protected.
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Have you heard from Democrats?
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Are they going to get on board?
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Because this doesn't seem
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political to me.
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I know so many people
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that have voted for Joe Biden
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that have done IVF,
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voted for Bernie Sanders
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that did IVF.
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It's not political.
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It's wanting to have a family.
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So we filed the legislation today.
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Today,
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Katie Britt and I
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have an op-ed
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in the Wall Street Journal.
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So you should go
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and read the op-ed
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we wrote in the Wall Street Journal.
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It's in today's journal.
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Today,
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I'm in New York on Monday.
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I'm going to be
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in New York City with Katie.
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We're going to do
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a number of media interviews
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starting early in the morning
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talking about this legislation.
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I think it is
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really important legislation.
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This should be legislation
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that passes the Senate
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100 to nothing.
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Every senator agrees
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with the substantive policy.
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Katie and I
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are going to try to pass it
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and we're going to go
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to the Senate floor
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and seek to pass it
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and what I do not know
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is if the Democrats
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will block it.
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And if they block it,
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it would be,
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even for today's Democrat Party,
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an incredibly cynical move
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because what it would be
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is the Democrats saying,
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you know what?
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We want to have the issue.
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We want to accuse Republicans
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of trying to ban IVF
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and so we're going to prevent you
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from protecting IVF.
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So we can say you want to ban it.
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So then we can falsely claim
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you want to ban it.
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That would be the only conceivable reason
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the Democrats could object
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is if they do not want
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to protect IVF.
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Now, the Democrats have
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their own bill
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that they claim is about IVF,
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but it actually is an abortion bill
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focused on their broader
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abortion agenda
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and they know that.
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This is a very narrow bill
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that puts in clear,
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ironclad protections for IVF.
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As I said,
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every senator, Republican,
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and Democrat
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agrees with that policy.
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So the only question is,
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will the Democrats
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play politics so much
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that they will oppose
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a policy that they agree with
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because they don't want
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to give up on the issue?
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I don't know.
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I hope not.
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But we'll see.
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We'll see what the Democrat
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reaction to it is.
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Is this one of those moments
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where verdict listeners,
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people that share this show
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on social media,
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should definitely reach out
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to their senators
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and say,
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hey, this is a nonpartisan,
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nonpolitical issue.
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We're asking you to support it
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and call with that spirit in mind
00:13:36.340
to their senator
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no matter where they live?
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Absolutely, yes.
00:13:39.200
Look, this is something
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IVF has support.
00:13:41.880
Nearly 90% of Americans
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support IVF.
00:13:44.560
IVF is profoundly pro-family.
00:13:46.840
It is a miracle.
00:13:48.780
Look, for most of human history,
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if parents are not able
00:13:52.720
to conceive,
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they're just left childless
00:13:55.320
and in sorrow.
00:13:57.440
And it is through
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the miracles of science
00:13:59.720
that parents who struggle
00:14:01.540
with infertility
00:14:02.800
are able to be moms and dads
00:14:06.440
and raise babies and children,
00:14:09.060
that is a wonderful,
00:14:10.780
beautiful thing.
00:14:12.400
And I hope we see
00:14:14.020
some bipartisan unity
00:14:15.300
the next week or two.
00:14:17.820
We'll find out.
00:14:18.820
Senator, I hope you have
00:14:19.700
great success on this bill.
00:14:20.880
We're going to keep everybody
00:14:21.760
updated on it
00:14:22.360
as it moves forward.
00:14:23.620
Finally, I do have to call out
00:14:25.660
the media.
00:14:26.660
This week was one heck of a week
00:14:28.440
in New York City
00:14:29.080
where you're headed.
00:14:30.560
And it made me laugh
00:14:31.880
because the media now
00:14:33.680
seems to be hedging their bets
00:14:35.000
that Donald Trump may win
00:14:37.020
in a New York court
00:14:38.320
because of the disaster
00:14:40.020
that's been this trial
00:14:40.760
with Bragg at the end
00:14:41.780
and with Cohen
00:14:42.860
to the point where
00:14:44.160
even CNN said this.
00:14:45.500
Take a look.
00:14:46.440
If I'm a juror,
00:14:47.160
I've been warned
00:14:47.820
that Michael Cohen lies.
00:14:49.300
The prosecutors have said this.
00:14:50.780
They've set it up.
00:14:51.560
I'm prepared for that.
00:14:52.680
I'm prepared for
00:14:53.740
he's lied in the past repeatedly.
00:14:56.480
I don't know if a jury
00:14:57.800
is prepared for
00:14:58.720
he lied to this jury
00:15:01.080
two days ago,
00:15:02.340
but now he's really
00:15:03.720
telling the truth.
00:15:04.480
If you have a cooperating witness
00:15:05.920
that can't tell the truth
00:15:06.940
at a plea allocution,
00:15:08.000
that means that
00:15:08.620
that witness
00:15:09.660
is basically worthless.
00:15:11.100
He testified
00:15:11.500
he lied to the judge
00:15:12.820
in this prior case.
00:15:15.240
And then Todd Blanch
00:15:15.840
is cross-examination.
00:15:17.020
So basically,
00:15:17.640
whenever you get
00:15:18.220
into a problem,
00:15:19.220
it's always blame somebody else.
00:15:20.640
Blame President Trump.
00:15:21.880
Blame the judge.
00:15:22.760
How many places
00:15:23.400
do you have to go
00:15:24.380
where this guy has lied
00:15:25.840
many times under oath
00:15:27.280
and it's always
00:15:28.120
somebody else's fault?
00:15:29.180
It's not his fault.
00:15:30.180
And that's pretty powerful
00:15:31.280
evidence to a jury
00:15:33.040
to say you shouldn't
00:15:33.960
believe anything
00:15:34.540
this guy says
00:15:35.160
and if you have to rely
00:15:36.060
on his testimony
00:15:36.800
in any fashion whatsoever
00:15:38.260
in order to convict
00:15:39.620
Donald Trump,
00:15:40.360
i.e.
00:15:40.940
in order to fix
00:15:41.920
Donald Trump's intent,
00:15:43.260
you have a reasonable doubt.
00:15:44.560
You can't have anything else
00:15:45.600
but a reasonable doubt.
00:15:47.400
Seven people
00:15:48.160
are on that panel.
00:15:49.600
Seven.
00:15:50.080
And this is how
00:15:50.680
they've been covering
00:15:51.280
the Trump trial
00:15:51.820
the entire time.
00:15:52.560
It's the center of the world
00:15:53.520
for Democrats.
00:15:54.680
They want him to be guilty.
00:15:56.160
They've gone all in
00:15:57.040
with their most brilliant minds
00:15:58.220
and now at the very end
00:15:59.020
they're like,
00:15:59.480
yeah,
00:15:59.720
it's probably not going to happen
00:16:00.960
because this guy's a liar
00:16:01.860
and the whole case is a joke.
00:16:03.140
Look,
00:16:03.620
they are obsessed
00:16:05.200
with the Trump trial.
00:16:06.280
CNN covers it
00:16:07.420
from dawn to dusk
00:16:09.400
constantly,
00:16:10.340
breathlessly.
00:16:11.080
They get so excited
00:16:12.020
when Stormy Daniels
00:16:13.080
is on the stand
00:16:14.340
and talking about
00:16:15.040
sex with the president.
00:16:16.240
Oh,
00:16:16.420
that makes their
00:16:17.860
cold little hearts
00:16:19.640
go pitter-pats
00:16:20.460
at CNN.
00:16:21.780
But it says something
00:16:24.180
when even CNN is like,
00:16:25.880
wow,
00:16:26.300
this case is weak.
00:16:27.800
And it only takes one.
00:16:29.140
They are getting
00:16:30.080
very,
00:16:30.580
very nervous.
00:16:32.100
And here,
00:16:32.780
play the second clip.
00:16:34.100
Anderson,
00:16:34.440
let me ask you
00:16:34.920
if I can put you
00:16:35.840
in the jury box.
00:16:36.960
Having just witnessed
00:16:37.860
that piece of cross-examination,
00:16:39.800
do you have doubts
00:16:40.820
that that conversation
00:16:42.120
happened the way
00:16:42.980
Michael Cohen testified
00:16:43.900
on his direct examination?
00:16:45.700
That he called Trump
00:16:46.460
into your life?
00:16:46.860
I think it's,
00:16:47.440
absolutely,
00:16:49.160
absolutely.
00:16:49.780
I think it's devastating
00:16:50.760
for Michael Cohen's
00:16:52.180
credibility on this,
00:16:53.240
I mean,
00:16:53.440
on this one particular topic,
00:16:55.080
whether it's,
00:16:56.040
you know,
00:16:56.760
he just didn't,
00:16:57.580
I mean,
00:16:57.960
it's hard to,
00:17:00.020
I don't know.
00:17:01.360
Yes,
00:17:01.840
I think if I was a juror
00:17:03.660
in this case,
00:17:04.340
watching that,
00:17:05.200
I would think
00:17:05.800
this guy's making this up
00:17:07.700
as he's going along,
00:17:08.820
or he's making
00:17:09.540
this particular story up.
00:17:12.040
You know,
00:17:12.220
Todd Blanche
00:17:12.720
is pointing out,
00:17:14.480
you were testifying
00:17:15.400
just on Tuesday
00:17:16.260
in this court,
00:17:17.840
you know,
00:17:19.180
and all morning long
00:17:20.200
he's been pointing out,
00:17:22.020
you know,
00:17:22.620
inconsistencies
00:17:23.760
in Michael Cohen's testimony,
00:17:25.900
or at least questionable
00:17:26.960
aspects of Michael Cohen's testimony,
00:17:28.900
but nothing
00:17:29.500
that you would necessarily
00:17:31.240
as a juror think,
00:17:32.480
okay,
00:17:32.700
that's clearly
00:17:33.480
a lie.
00:17:34.820
Maybe that's just
00:17:35.520
he was misunderstanding
00:17:37.600
or,
00:17:38.500
you know,
00:17:38.920
he was bragging
00:17:39.880
or whatever.
00:17:41.180
This one,
00:17:42.220
Todd Blanche
00:17:42.760
clearly saved this
00:17:44.380
to write before
00:17:45.520
the lunch break,
00:17:46.240
I'm assuming,
00:17:47.560
because it was just
00:17:49.440
so well crafted
00:17:50.380
and just point by point
00:17:52.840
walking through this story,
00:17:54.120
which at first seemed,
00:17:55.140
you know,
00:17:55.520
why,
00:17:55.860
why,
00:17:56.600
this seems like
00:17:57.400
a ridiculous story.
00:17:58.240
Some 14-year-old
00:17:59.380
is sending him,
00:18:00.120
you know,
00:18:00.680
nasty text messages
00:18:01.720
and he's going to call
00:18:02.860
Keith Schiller about it.
00:18:03.800
And then you realize,
00:18:04.920
you look at,
00:18:05.440
he showed the phone logs
00:18:06.700
that the prosecutor
00:18:07.880
had shown
00:18:08.760
and it's the phone call
00:18:09.800
that Michael Cohen
00:18:11.880
had previously talked about.
00:18:12.980
I think it is severely damaging
00:18:14.820
to Michael Cohen's testimony.
00:18:16.340
I mean,
00:18:16.840
this has got to be
00:18:17.600
like their worst day
00:18:18.500
ever at CNN
00:18:19.220
to watch this
00:18:20.360
and they're sitting,
00:18:21.200
they're going,
00:18:21.680
look,
00:18:22.160
Mike Cohen's a liar,
00:18:22.920
the whole case is a sham.
00:18:23.860
Look,
00:18:24.040
I'm actually wondering
00:18:24.760
if CNN,
00:18:25.600
like if the hosts
00:18:26.340
have become day drinkers now,
00:18:27.700
like if they're slamming
00:18:29.140
back tequila shots,
00:18:30.880
the sadness
00:18:32.200
that they're saying it.
00:18:33.740
Now listen,
00:18:34.380
to be clear,
00:18:35.560
Trump could still
00:18:36.140
be convicted.
00:18:37.420
Sure.
00:18:37.600
This is a wildly
00:18:38.420
left-wing prosecutor,
00:18:39.560
this is a wildly
00:18:40.260
left-wing judge
00:18:41.200
and this is a jury
00:18:42.720
drawn from a New York
00:18:43.660
jury pool,
00:18:44.340
so presumably
00:18:45.140
it is an overwhelmingly
00:18:46.560
Democrat jury.
00:18:47.580
I don't believe
00:18:49.340
any conviction
00:18:50.000
if there is one
00:18:50.940
will stand up
00:18:52.020
on appeal,
00:18:52.800
but look,
00:18:53.420
given how bad things went,
00:18:55.560
we could see an acquittal.
00:18:57.040
Last question on this,
00:18:58.240
will Trump be on the stand
00:18:59.860
before the end
00:19:00.740
of this trial?
00:19:01.720
Absolutely not.
00:19:03.040
Zero point,
00:19:03.920
zero zero zero percent chance.
00:19:06.000
Why?
00:19:07.060
Number one,
00:19:08.100
the criminal defendant
00:19:08.900
has no burden of proof.
00:19:10.280
It is the prosecution
00:19:11.300
that has the burden of proof.
00:19:12.560
The prosecution
00:19:13.300
has to prove
00:19:15.560
beyond a reasonable doubt
00:19:16.840
that the defendant
00:19:17.680
committed the crime.
00:19:19.200
Number two,
00:19:20.100
any defendant
00:19:20.580
has a Fifth Amendment
00:19:21.500
right protected
00:19:22.180
in the Constitution
00:19:22.860
not to testify
00:19:24.040
at his own trial
00:19:25.620
and most defendants
00:19:27.100
choose not to.
00:19:28.540
But number three,
00:19:29.560
for any lawyer
00:19:30.360
to put Donald J. Trump
00:19:31.680
on the stand
00:19:33.380
under oath
00:19:34.120
and to open him up
00:19:35.540
to cross-examination
00:19:36.760
and by the way,
00:19:37.940
cross-examination
00:19:38.800
about damn near anything,
00:19:40.040
particularly with
00:19:40.560
a left-wing judge
00:19:41.380
who's a partisan,
00:19:42.640
who is not going to
00:19:43.560
corral in the cross-examination,
00:19:45.960
you are inviting disaster.
00:19:48.140
To be clear,
00:19:49.040
there is no chance
00:19:50.100
Donald Trump
00:19:50.580
would be put on the stand.
00:19:51.780
It would be lunacy
00:19:53.780
to do so.
00:19:54.900
I don't know
00:19:55.500
if the Trump team
00:19:56.200
will have other witnesses
00:19:57.120
they put on or not.
00:19:58.120
They might,
00:19:58.560
they might not,
00:19:59.600
but it is an absolute certainty
00:20:01.740
Trump will not be
00:20:02.620
one of them
00:20:03.300
and hopefully
00:20:06.680
this circus
00:20:07.360
will be over soon.
00:20:09.220
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00:20:10.280
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to the big story
00:20:51.740
number three of the week
00:20:52.660
you may have missed.
00:20:54.540
He's absolutely right.
00:20:56.640
And it's sad
00:20:57.720
that Anthony Blegan
00:20:58.980
can sit there
00:20:59.980
and straight up lie.
00:21:01.640
And one of the lies
00:21:02.600
that he told,
00:21:03.220
and I want to get
00:21:03.740
your reaction to it,
00:21:05.080
is he said that
00:21:05.920
we haven't withheld
00:21:07.120
any weapons.
00:21:08.060
Well,
00:21:08.500
the White House
00:21:09.120
says he's a liar.
00:21:10.320
Here's Jean-Pierre
00:21:11.040
on the 15th.
00:21:12.440
And we have said
00:21:13.020
that it is one pause,
00:21:14.800
one pause on these bombs,
00:21:16.480
one package,
00:21:17.440
one shipment,
00:21:18.520
and that is obviously
00:21:19.720
connected to Rafa
00:21:21.040
and the potential
00:21:22.800
of what could happen
00:21:24.420
in Rafa,
00:21:25.020
and we've been very clear
00:21:25.780
about that.
00:21:26.900
So who's lying,
00:21:27.740
Senator,
00:21:28.000
the White House
00:21:28.580
or Blinken,
00:21:29.300
or is the White House
00:21:30.040
calling Blinken out
00:21:30.820
for his lie?
00:21:32.340
Well, listen,
00:21:33.240
Blinken is spinning
00:21:34.480
like crazy,
00:21:35.160
and understand
00:21:35.780
when Joe Biden
00:21:36.520
went on TV
00:21:37.180
and threatened
00:21:37.640
to cut off the weapons,
00:21:38.580
that surprised
00:21:39.180
the administration.
00:21:40.060
They didn't know
00:21:40.560
that he was going
00:21:41.020
to freelance like that,
00:21:42.200
and so they're trying
00:21:42.900
to do cleanup on that,
00:21:43.880
but they're still
00:21:44.480
holding the damn weapons.
00:21:45.480
They're not sending them.
00:21:46.840
So they're trying
00:21:48.680
to spend,
00:21:49.340
they're sending out,
00:21:49.960
we sent other weapons,
00:21:51.180
it's just the current
00:21:52.820
shipment that we're threatening.
00:21:54.440
I've got to say,
00:21:55.320
so look,
00:21:55.660
the first part
00:21:56.140
of that cross-examination
00:21:57.160
when I was focused
00:21:57.920
on the Washington Post story,
00:22:00.140
and you and I
00:22:01.140
covered this in a pod,
00:22:02.800
I don't know,
00:22:03.280
about a week or two ago,
00:22:04.120
the most damning
00:22:07.500
conclusion of that story
00:22:09.540
that they were offering
00:22:10.400
intelligence on where
00:22:11.300
senior Hamas officials
00:22:12.720
were and where
00:22:13.480
Hamas terror tunnels
00:22:14.440
were in exchange
00:22:15.320
for not going into Rafa
00:22:16.180
is the necessary
00:22:17.900
implication that they
00:22:18.860
had that information,
00:22:19.740
they knew where
00:22:20.120
the senior Hamas
00:22:20.800
leaders were,
00:22:21.620
and they were not
00:22:22.060
telling Israel.
00:22:22.740
Now, I will say,
00:22:23.860
Blinken gave a
00:22:24.480
categorical denial,
00:22:25.600
and maybe,
00:22:26.560
maybe he's right,
00:22:28.080
I do not know.
00:22:29.580
I know that that story
00:22:30.760
appeared in multiple
00:22:31.760
media outlets
00:22:32.380
simultaneously,
00:22:33.000
so someone was
00:22:34.180
deliberately and
00:22:35.300
directly putting it
00:22:37.040
forward,
00:22:37.560
and if Blinken
00:22:39.260
was lying,
00:22:40.320
then he perjured
00:22:41.020
himself,
00:22:41.900
because he was
00:22:42.480
under oath,
00:22:43.720
and he was unequivocal
00:22:45.020
in what he said.
00:22:45.580
He said they didn't
00:22:46.140
offer Israel anything
00:22:47.740
not to enter Rafa.
00:22:49.560
Now, I think the
00:22:50.580
chances that Blinken
00:22:51.660
is not telling the
00:22:53.840
truth there
00:22:54.320
are very,
00:22:55.560
very high,
00:22:55.960
but, you know,
00:22:57.640
these issues have a
00:22:59.040
way of,
00:22:59.660
over time,
00:23:00.300
the truth comes
00:23:00.940
out.
00:23:01.960
And,
00:23:02.200
look,
00:23:02.620
there's people
00:23:03.600
that don't
00:23:04.000
understand how
00:23:04.520
leaks work in
00:23:05.120
Washington,
00:23:05.500
I think it's
00:23:05.940
important so you
00:23:06.680
understand,
00:23:07.780
there sometimes
00:23:08.500
are leaks that
00:23:09.100
come out that
00:23:09.760
is like one
00:23:11.040
person that's
00:23:11.840
genuinely leaking
00:23:12.800
something.
00:23:13.780
Then there's
00:23:14.380
other strategic
00:23:15.140
leaks that are
00:23:15.880
done on purpose
00:23:16.660
where you can't
00:23:17.400
use their names,
00:23:18.880
and, look,
00:23:19.700
I've been a part
00:23:20.660
of that,
00:23:21.020
where they're like,
00:23:21.520
hey, will you
00:23:22.100
go to this
00:23:22.500
reporter,
00:23:23.140
and this,
00:23:23.520
and then three
00:23:23.980
other people go
00:23:24.580
to other reporters,
00:23:25.680
and then they
00:23:26.180
say, hey,
00:23:26.680
we want to get
00:23:27.160
this message out
00:23:28.020
there for a few
00:23:28.760
days from now,
00:23:29.460
we want to let
00:23:29.860
them know this
00:23:30.280
is coming down
00:23:30.800
the pipeline.
00:23:31.800
When you have
00:23:32.320
four people,
00:23:33.260
it's organized.
00:23:34.600
It's an
00:23:35.100
administration's
00:23:36.040
decision to
00:23:36.820
send people out
00:23:37.620
to give a
00:23:38.100
heads up on
00:23:38.800
something,
00:23:39.660
and to get it
00:23:40.340
in the newspaper,
00:23:41.220
to get it in
00:23:41.900
print,
00:23:42.580
which is exactly
00:23:43.460
what you were
00:23:44.020
quoting.
00:23:45.080
No, that's
00:23:45.740
exactly right.
00:23:46.380
Anytime you have
00:23:47.200
four people that
00:23:49.080
are going to
00:23:50.520
multiple outlets,
00:23:51.260
it wasn't just
00:23:51.740
the Washington
00:23:52.160
Post,
00:23:52.520
I quoted the
00:23:53.080
Post,
00:23:53.480
but I think it
00:23:54.060
was Reuters,
00:23:54.660
it was several
00:23:55.060
places,
00:23:56.060
there's a
00:23:56.680
decision,
00:23:57.240
and someone
00:23:57.600
has made a
00:23:58.120
decision,
00:23:58.640
we want to
00:23:59.260
drive this
00:23:59.760
story,
00:24:00.680
and when
00:24:01.160
four people
00:24:01.720
are going,
00:24:02.260
you're sending,
00:24:02.960
okay, you,
00:24:03.480
you, you,
00:24:03.800
and you,
00:24:04.260
you guys go
00:24:05.320
talk and push
00:24:06.580
that story,
00:24:07.140
so somebody
00:24:07.620
pushed that
00:24:08.160
story,
00:24:08.680
and those
00:24:09.240
four people
00:24:09.760
who pushed
00:24:10.160
it,
00:24:10.320
by the way,
00:24:10.740
the reporters
00:24:11.320
know who
00:24:12.680
those four
00:24:13.140
people are,
00:24:14.160
and they now
00:24:15.580
know that
00:24:16.340
one or the
00:24:17.100
other is
00:24:18.440
directly lying,
00:24:19.460
either the
00:24:20.040
four people
00:24:20.540
who talked
00:24:20.900
to them
00:24:21.200
were lying
00:24:21.600
to them,
00:24:21.940
or Tony
00:24:23.200
Blinken just
00:24:24.080
committed perjury,
00:24:24.880
one of the other
00:24:25.800
has to be the
00:24:26.460
case,
00:24:27.160
so that in
00:24:28.720
time,
00:24:29.900
there may be
00:24:30.600
real consequences
00:24:32.040
to Blinken's
00:24:32.720
testimony on
00:24:33.340
that.
00:24:34.640
The rest of it,
00:24:35.720
though,
00:24:36.060
listen,
00:24:36.540
I got to say,
00:24:37.060
when we got
00:24:37.540
into,
00:24:37.980
for example,
00:24:39.020
the Iranian
00:24:39.620
oil,
00:24:40.020
I found it
00:24:42.000
stunning that
00:24:43.160
the Secretary
00:24:43.720
of State
00:24:44.120
didn't know,
00:24:45.340
didn't care.
00:24:46.660
How much oil
00:24:47.260
are they selling?
00:24:47.860
I don't know.
00:24:48.700
How much were
00:24:49.260
they selling?
00:24:49.760
I don't know.
00:24:50.200
How much are
00:24:50.620
they now?
00:24:51.040
I don't know.
00:24:51.780
How many ships
00:24:52.560
were in the
00:24:52.940
ghost fleece
00:24:53.400
before?
00:24:53.860
I don't know.
00:24:54.280
How many ships
00:24:54.780
are there now?
00:24:55.540
I don't know.
00:24:56.160
It's because
00:24:56.400
they don't give
00:24:56.840
a damn.
00:24:57.460
They don't care.
00:24:58.020
It's like when
00:24:58.340
he looked at
00:24:58.740
you and he
00:24:59.000
goes,
00:24:59.220
you tell me.
00:25:00.180
I'm like,
00:25:00.660
you're the
00:25:01.120
Secretary of State.
00:25:02.080
You're the one
00:25:02.460
that's supposed
00:25:02.800
to be up on
00:25:03.400
all of this
00:25:03.980
information on the
00:25:04.860
sanctions.
00:25:10.020
He does not
00:25:10.980
care.
00:25:11.880
The overwhelming
00:25:13.380
foreign policy
00:25:14.900
objective of
00:25:15.800
Joe Biden
00:25:16.460
and this entire
00:25:17.280
administration,
00:25:18.040
and sadly,
00:25:18.960
most of the
00:25:19.580
Democrats in
00:25:20.180
Congress,
00:25:21.060
is continuing
00:25:21.980
to appease
00:25:23.120
Iran and
00:25:23.820
enter a new
00:25:24.400
Iran nuclear
00:25:25.080
deal.
00:25:25.720
Even while
00:25:26.320
Iran is trying
00:25:27.040
to murder
00:25:27.600
Mike Pompeo,
00:25:28.780
the former
00:25:29.120
U.S.
00:25:29.460
Secretary of
00:25:29.920
State,
00:25:30.500
Raisi,
00:25:31.400
who Blinken
00:25:32.360
just put out
00:25:33.040
a statement
00:25:33.580
commemorating
00:25:36.080
and commiserating
00:25:37.080
his death,
00:25:38.840
Raisi was
00:25:39.580
trying to
00:25:40.160
murder
00:25:40.500
Blinken's
00:25:41.740
predecessor,
00:25:42.440
and was
00:25:42.860
trying to
00:25:43.320
murder him
00:25:43.660
two days
00:25:44.140
ago.
00:25:45.840
It is
00:25:47.280
stunning,
00:25:49.300
and so
00:25:50.020
because they
00:25:50.980
desperately want
00:25:51.920
to deal with
00:25:52.360
Iran,
00:25:53.100
he doesn't
00:25:53.580
care how
00:25:54.000
much oil
00:25:54.540
they're,
00:25:54.720
by the way,
00:25:55.680
this is the
00:25:56.160
same administration
00:25:56.820
that's doing
00:25:57.400
everything they
00:25:58.080
can to cut
00:25:58.640
off oil and
00:25:59.500
gas production
00:26:00.100
and sales in
00:26:00.600
the United
00:26:00.880
States.
00:26:01.280
This is the
00:26:01.540
same Joe
00:26:01.940
Biden that
00:26:02.860
halted new
00:26:03.800
permits to
00:26:04.340
export LNG.
00:26:05.480
So if it's
00:26:05.880
Americans selling
00:26:06.660
oil and gas,
00:26:07.280
they know who's
00:26:07.760
doing it,
00:26:08.160
they want to
00:26:08.520
stop it,
00:26:09.000
but if it's
00:26:10.380
a homicidal
00:26:12.120
religious
00:26:12.660
theocrat who
00:26:14.120
hates Israel,
00:26:15.620
who hates
00:26:16.060
America,
00:26:16.700
who chants
00:26:17.220
death to
00:26:17.660
America,
00:26:18.160
death to
00:26:18.520
Israel,
00:26:19.320
he can sell
00:26:19.900
as much
00:26:20.260
oil as he
00:26:20.760
wants.
00:26:21.160
What, you
00:26:21.460
know,
00:26:21.640
what's a
00:26:22.540
hundred
00:26:22.760
billion dollars
00:26:23.580
to a
00:26:23.940
psychopath
00:26:24.260
who wants
00:26:24.720
to murder
00:26:25.020
us all?
00:26:25.840
Senator,
00:26:26.420
one other
00:26:26.840
question I
00:26:27.480
do want to
00:26:28.500
ask you
00:26:29.000
about,
00:26:29.640
and that
00:26:30.260
involves some
00:26:31.620
of Anthony
00:26:32.360
Blinken,
00:26:32.920
but just a
00:26:33.640
broader shock.
00:26:34.660
The Biden
00:26:36.020
administration
00:26:36.800
issued
00:26:37.640
condolences
00:26:38.720
to Iran.
00:26:40.040
You were
00:26:40.240
just talking
00:26:40.680
about the
00:26:41.040
Iranian
00:26:41.260
order,
00:26:42.200
oil,
00:26:43.060
and the
00:26:44.200
Biden
00:26:44.500
State
00:26:44.820
Department
00:26:45.280
sent
00:26:46.260
official
00:26:47.020
condolences
00:26:48.080
for the
00:26:49.240
Iranian
00:26:49.580
president,
00:26:50.240
who is
00:26:50.900
known as
00:26:51.620
the Butcher
00:26:52.380
of Tehran,
00:26:54.560
and yet the
00:26:55.500
U.S. is
00:26:56.100
offering official
00:26:57.120
condolences,
00:26:57.880
and they say
00:26:58.360
this is
00:26:58.800
standard
00:26:59.180
protocol.
00:27:00.040
Since
00:27:00.380
when?
00:27:00.820
Well,
00:27:03.120
look,
00:27:03.460
as I
00:27:04.360
asked on
00:27:05.060
Twitter,
00:27:05.520
only slightly
00:27:06.280
tongue-in-cheek,
00:27:07.160
I said,
00:27:07.540
you know,
00:27:07.820
you should
00:27:08.680
have seen
00:27:08.960
the condolence
00:27:09.560
letter the
00:27:10.040
State Department
00:27:10.600
put out
00:27:11.100
when Adolf
00:27:11.880
Hitler died.
00:27:13.440
We don't
00:27:15.020
mourn the
00:27:16.300
loss of
00:27:17.120
mass
00:27:17.480
murderers.
00:27:18.020
Understand,
00:27:18.640
Raisi was
00:27:20.140
a mass
00:27:20.640
murderer.
00:27:20.940
By the way,
00:27:21.260
he murdered
00:27:21.600
children in
00:27:22.260
his own
00:27:22.540
country.
00:27:23.180
He was in
00:27:24.520
charge of
00:27:25.220
making the
00:27:25.960
morals police
00:27:26.940
in Iran
00:27:27.500
even stricter.
00:27:28.880
You know the
00:27:29.560
groups that we
00:27:30.080
see online
00:27:30.620
things like
00:27:31.040
Queers for
00:27:31.420
Palestine?
00:27:32.400
Raisi is
00:27:32.840
the guy in
00:27:33.340
charge of
00:27:33.780
murdering
00:27:34.380
homosexuals.
00:27:35.000
He's the
00:27:35.280
one that
00:27:35.560
takes you
00:27:35.920
to the
00:27:36.180
top of
00:27:36.520
a tall
00:27:36.780
building,
00:27:37.120
or actually
00:27:37.820
his goons
00:27:38.300
are,
00:27:38.540
to be fair.
00:27:39.060
It's probably
00:27:39.500
not him
00:27:39.920
personally,
00:27:40.840
but his goons
00:27:41.460
take you to
00:27:41.860
the top of
00:27:42.260
a tall
00:27:42.520
building and
00:27:42.940
throw you
00:27:43.280
off.
00:27:43.540
He's the
00:27:43.860
one that
00:27:44.320
if a
00:27:46.200
woman removes
00:27:47.680
her head
00:27:48.640
covering and
00:27:49.340
that is in
00:27:50.780
charge of
00:27:51.440
administering
00:27:52.760
the beatings
00:27:54.200
and whipping
00:27:54.600
and capital
00:27:55.180
punishment,
00:27:56.320
he is a
00:27:57.960
monster.
00:27:58.740
By the way,
00:27:59.220
he is also
00:27:59.720
directly responsible
00:28:00.600
for the
00:28:01.560
murders of
00:28:02.460
hundreds of
00:28:03.340
U.S.
00:28:03.700
servicemen and
00:28:04.320
women.
00:28:04.560
He is
00:28:05.260
directly
00:28:05.760
responsible for
00:28:06.720
October 7th for
00:28:07.720
the murder of
00:28:08.160
1,200 Israelis.
00:28:09.660
He is directly
00:28:10.560
responsible for
00:28:11.740
leading this
00:28:13.520
viciously
00:28:14.540
anti-Semitic
00:28:15.520
hateful regime.
00:28:17.620
The world
00:28:18.160
should celebrate
00:28:19.340
that Raisi is
00:28:21.440
dead, but this
00:28:22.560
administration
00:28:23.420
is not
00:28:25.480
celebrating.
00:28:26.060
And to be
00:28:26.440
clear, the
00:28:27.100
United Nations
00:28:28.020
flew their flags
00:28:29.040
at half
00:28:29.440
staff.
00:28:30.200
That's what
00:28:30.680
you do when
00:28:31.320
you commemorate
00:28:32.000
the loss of
00:28:32.560
a world
00:28:32.940
leader.
00:28:33.340
That's what
00:28:33.680
you do when
00:28:34.100
you commemorate
00:28:34.600
the loss of
00:28:35.180
someone who
00:28:36.080
is to be
00:28:36.740
revered, who
00:28:37.380
is to be
00:28:37.840
admired.
00:28:39.160
And in
00:28:39.660
this United
00:28:40.320
Nations, they
00:28:41.120
are such
00:28:41.560
vicious
00:28:41.920
anti-Semites.
00:28:43.580
Raisi fits
00:28:44.220
the bill.
00:28:45.200
Yeah, I
00:28:45.540
mean, I
00:28:46.100
wonder if
00:28:46.820
these guys
00:28:47.260
were in
00:28:47.560
charge when
00:28:48.440
we killed
00:28:48.840
Osama bin
00:28:49.680
Laden, would
00:28:50.140
they have
00:28:50.420
then sent
00:28:50.860
condolences to
00:28:51.720
Al-Qaeda?
00:28:52.820
And notice
00:28:53.580
Blinken didn't
00:28:54.360
condemn what the
00:28:55.060
U.S.
00:28:55.320
did.
00:28:55.540
I mean, I
00:28:56.200
gave him the
00:28:56.620
opportunity, he's
00:28:57.360
like, well, well, I
00:28:58.660
need to know the
00:28:59.260
context.
00:28:59.700
What context?
00:29:00.540
Flag?
00:29:01.300
Pole?
00:29:01.980
Halfway up.
00:29:02.900
Okay, you got all
00:29:03.460
the context.
00:29:04.440
Good or bad, you
00:29:05.040
agree?
00:29:05.680
I don't know, I
00:29:07.420
don't know, I
00:29:07.880
don't know.
00:29:08.620
Look, I mean,
00:29:09.320
that's, he doesn't
00:29:10.140
want to condemn it.
00:29:11.080
Why?
00:29:11.500
Because he agrees
00:29:12.160
with it.
00:29:13.180
As always, thank
00:29:14.560
you for listening
00:29:15.320
to Verdict with
00:29:16.320
Senator Ted Cruz,
00:29:17.360
Ben Ferguson with
00:29:18.140
you.
00:29:18.280
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