Verdict with Ted Cruz - September 09, 2024


Debate Preview： What Trump & Harris Need to do to WIN!


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Sen. Ted Cruz and Ben Fergusons preview the most important debate of 2020: the Democratic primary debate between Sen. Kamala Harris and Sen. Donald Trump on Tuesday night. They discuss the importance of the debate, the risks and rewards of the night, and what we should expect from both candidates.

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00:00:05.420 Welcome, it is Verdict with Senator Ted Cruz, Ben Ferguson with you.
00:00:09.440 And this is that show that for me is a fun one, Senator,
00:00:12.540 because we get to talk about a very important debate.
00:00:16.760 We nailed the last debate, presidential debate,
00:00:19.400 by saying that if Joe Biden had a bad night, he would not be the nominee.
00:00:23.980 We were right on that one.
00:00:25.340 So what's the prediction this time?
00:00:26.960 So tomorrow night is in all likelihood the single most important night between now and Election Day.
00:00:33.320 Both candidates have a lot to lose.
00:00:36.440 The stakes are very high.
00:00:38.500 I think this will be the only debate between Donald Trump and Kamala Harris.
00:00:42.640 I don't think Kamala wants to do another debate. 0.97
00:00:44.900 That means tomorrow night, Kamala's got to make it through it. 0.83
00:00:48.580 If she makes it through it, her team will put her back in Joe Biden's basement,
00:00:52.720 and she will not leave again until Election Day.
00:00:54.840 She'll come out periodically to read a speech from a teleprompter,
00:00:58.420 and then they'll throw her back in the basement. 0.99
00:01:00.300 Trump, on the other hand, this is the single best opportunity
00:01:04.200 to lay out the massive difference between his record and Kamala's record,
00:01:09.600 but it also has a lot of risk.
00:01:11.740 She's going to try very hard to bait him. 1.00
00:01:14.480 She wants him to look like a jerk. 1.00
00:01:16.900 She's going to do everything she can to try to make him look like a jerk, 1.00
00:01:21.100 and he's going to have to show a superhuman level of restraint, 0.99
00:01:26.760 a greater level of restraint than I think he's shown at any previous debate.
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00:03:15.060 So, you said a moment ago you think this is the most important debate.
00:03:19.240 Is this the most important debate for Trump
00:03:22.680 as much as it is important for Kamala Harris?
00:03:25.400 Who has a tougher night hitting a home run?
00:03:29.980 So, this debate is huge for both of them.
00:03:33.440 Now, I don't think it will be the most consequential debate ever.
00:03:36.920 That was the last debate.
00:03:38.300 And our listeners will recall
00:03:40.520 the night of the Trump-Biden debate,
00:03:43.580 we recorded a special pod that night.
00:03:46.400 By the way, we'll do this again.
00:03:48.220 We'll do a special pod the night of the Tuesday debate,
00:03:52.000 and we'll give our analysis real time right after the debate.
00:03:55.640 But the Biden-Trump debate,
00:03:58.500 we said that night,
00:03:59.580 was the most consequential presidential debate in history
00:04:02.140 because, and we predicted it that evening,
00:04:04.740 it would change the names on the ballot.
00:04:07.560 That's exactly what it did.
00:04:08.960 That debate resulted in Joe Biden being pulled off the ballot.
00:04:12.920 This debate, I don't think,
00:04:14.040 is going to have that level of consequence.
00:04:15.900 We know the names on the ballot now.
00:04:17.580 They're going to be Donald Trump and Kamala Harris.
00:04:19.320 That's not going to change.
00:04:20.340 But from Trump's perspective,
00:04:24.600 the upside is very significant.
00:04:26.940 This will be his single greatest moment
00:04:29.260 to cut through the billions of dollars of media propaganda.
00:04:33.980 The media is doing everything they can
00:04:35.720 to lionize, to canonize Kamala Harris.
00:04:39.780 The debate tomorrow night
00:04:41.300 is his chance to lay out substantively
00:04:45.040 why people's lives were better when he was president
00:04:48.940 than they have been while she and Biden
00:04:52.240 are running the federal government,
00:04:53.560 and why people's lives will be better next year
00:04:57.640 when he is president again
00:04:59.600 than they are right now under Joe Biden and Kamala Harris.
00:05:04.080 So the upside is significant.
00:05:07.200 From Kamala,
00:05:08.620 the upside is not as great as the downside.
00:05:11.400 Listen, there is a reason.
00:05:12.740 Her team does not trust her extemporaneously.
00:05:17.840 There is a reason.
00:05:19.360 Like, I am not aware of any precedent in history
00:05:22.680 for any campaign doing what Kamala is doing,
00:05:26.860 which is utterly and completely hiding from the media.
00:05:29.980 They have so much concern about her ability
00:05:33.200 to answer questions on the fly
00:05:34.860 that this debate has a real downside. 0.99
00:05:38.800 If she says something really dumb, 0.99
00:05:40.940 if she crashes and burns, 1.00
00:05:43.080 that's a risk.
00:05:45.160 On the other hand,
00:05:46.620 look, you and I have talked about this before.
00:05:50.020 I worry that Republicans underestimate Kamala Harris. 0.99
00:05:55.500 I agree. 1.00
00:05:56.060 I think a lot of Republicans think she's dumb as rocks. 1.00
00:06:02.220 And that's not the case. 0.99
00:06:04.360 Listen, I've served with her in the Senate.
00:06:05.780 And the problem is Republican expectations
00:06:11.460 are so low for Kamala
00:06:13.780 that it really does lower the expectations for the debate.
00:06:18.220 So if she does, fine.
00:06:20.460 If she gets up and gives reasonable answers
00:06:24.540 and doesn't have a catastrophe,
00:06:27.780 the media will all spin it as a huge victory for her.
00:06:31.560 That's dangerous because, as I said,
00:06:35.180 the expectations have been defined so low
00:06:38.060 that she doesn't need to clear all that much
00:06:40.300 for it to be considered by all of the media
00:06:43.460 a victory on Kamala Harris's part.
00:06:46.240 You know, the last debate also had a different,
00:06:48.620 I think, bar standard.
00:06:50.620 Right when it began,
00:06:52.280 I think the media realized,
00:06:53.760 we can't fix this.
00:06:55.060 We've got to get rid of this guy. 0.90
00:06:56.060 We've got to dump him.
00:06:57.080 And you and I did a post-debate analysis,
00:06:59.840 which we will also do after this one.
00:07:02.740 And it was very clear instantly,
00:07:05.540 this was, we've got to get rid of this guy.
00:07:07.280 We've got to get rid of this guy.
00:07:08.320 We've got to get rid of this guy.
00:07:09.400 We've got to get rid of this guy.
00:07:10.360 And you could hear it as soon as the debate was over
00:07:12.760 on all the channels.
00:07:13.700 And everybody, everybody,
00:07:14.420 CNN, ABC, CBS, NBC,
00:07:16.480 all the media,
00:07:17.720 the Democratic operatives,
00:07:19.000 they were all,
00:07:20.160 get rid of Biden.
00:07:21.080 We're going to lose.
00:07:21.960 Give us a new choice.
00:07:23.400 Yeah.
00:07:23.800 And so when you knew that was a chance,
00:07:27.160 they don't have that option now.
00:07:28.800 So they're going to have to tell everybody,
00:07:30.440 even if it is not a great night,
00:07:32.020 that it's a better night than it was
00:07:33.320 or wasn't that bad, right?
00:07:34.560 They're going to spin it.
00:07:35.480 We know that because they can't replace her.
00:07:37.840 Like they're stuck.
00:07:39.480 We're within the 60 day window here.
00:07:41.880 This is the candidate.
00:07:43.080 So they're going to lie if they have to.
00:07:45.380 They're going to cover for her if they have to.
00:07:47.260 So what is a bad night actually look like for her?
00:07:51.580 Is it getting stumped?
00:07:53.460 Is it, you know,
00:07:54.840 getting fact checked
00:07:55.880 or just saying things aren't true
00:07:57.460 or nailing her on her flip flops? 1.00
00:07:59.020 Because if you look at the list,
00:08:00.900 she has basically changed her position 0.63
00:08:02.660 on almost everything that's significant
00:08:04.920 in the last two weeks.
00:08:06.400 I mean, we're talking about,
00:08:07.080 she's changed her,
00:08:08.580 what she thought on fracking.
00:08:10.260 She's changed her thoughts
00:08:11.220 on getting rid of combustion engines and cars.
00:08:13.900 She's changed on almost every major policy she held.
00:08:17.160 Now she's in favor of the wall. 0.86
00:08:18.480 Yeah, look, I think the flip flopping
00:08:23.180 is less damaging
00:08:24.460 than the actual substantive failures
00:08:28.300 of her administration.
00:08:32.000 You and I talked about this
00:08:33.600 the night of her speech at the DNC convention.
00:08:36.280 There were lots of aspects of that speech,
00:08:38.880 but the most fundamental was
00:08:40.420 that it's divorced from reality.
00:08:42.660 Her campaign is trying to run a campaign 1.00
00:08:44.740 like she's a challenger.
00:08:46.040 They are treating Donald J. Trump
00:08:48.520 like he's the incumbent president.
00:08:50.560 It's fundamentally weird.
00:08:52.120 That's not how VPs run.
00:08:53.660 VPs run saying,
00:08:55.940 our record in this administration
00:08:57.960 has been really successful,
00:08:59.660 continue the success.
00:09:01.680 She's tried to run away 0.99
00:09:03.160 from everything the last four years.
00:09:06.240 And so, listen,
00:09:08.500 my advice to Trump would be
00:09:09.860 don't focus as much on the flip flopping.
00:09:12.840 Focus on the fact that her actual record,
00:09:15.200 look, you don't have to tell us
00:09:17.760 what you would do.
00:09:18.740 You're in office.
00:09:19.880 You're doing it right now.
00:09:22.180 And what you're doing right now
00:09:24.760 is a disaster.
00:09:26.860 So it doesn't really matter
00:09:29.480 what empty promises you make
00:09:31.200 because we are seeing the effects.
00:09:34.220 And the most important advice for Trump,
00:09:38.420 well, actually,
00:09:38.880 there's a number of different bits of advice.
00:09:40.980 One is don't blow his top.
00:09:43.380 Don't get provoked.
00:09:44.520 And by the way,
00:09:45.060 Kamala's entire strategy
00:09:46.220 is going to be to piss him off. 0.90
00:09:47.880 She wants him to blow his top 0.93
00:09:49.800 and become a spectacle.
00:09:50.860 She wants him to look like 1.00
00:09:53.320 an abusive jerk. 1.00
00:09:56.000 That is, I promise you, 1.00
00:09:57.800 her debate team,
00:09:59.300 she's sitting there
00:10:00.240 with Pete Buttigieg
00:10:01.160 and a bunch of smart Democrats
00:10:02.840 saying, okay,
00:10:04.340 how can you poke him?
00:10:05.740 What irritates him?
00:10:06.820 What makes him angry?
00:10:08.020 And they want to paint him
00:10:10.240 so their spinners
00:10:12.280 will say that he's a misogynist 0.98
00:10:15.300 and a racist, 0.94
00:10:15.840 that he doesn't like women 0.99
00:10:17.020 and he doesn't like African Americans. 0.99
00:10:19.060 It doesn't matter what he says. 0.98
00:10:20.240 That's going to be their spin.
00:10:21.660 But she's going to try really hard
00:10:24.200 to get him to say something
00:10:27.620 that they can point to as proof
00:10:30.220 for the claim
00:10:30.880 that they're already planning to make.
00:10:33.080 And so from his perspective,
00:10:36.360 the downside he has to avoid
00:10:38.980 is stepping into that,
00:10:40.060 is getting provoked.
00:10:43.280 The upside he has,
00:10:44.940 you know,
00:10:45.160 the best political advice
00:10:46.320 I've ever gotten
00:10:46.940 was something Heidi told me years ago,
00:10:50.040 right when I was first running
00:10:51.280 for the Senate
00:10:51.800 and I was getting ready
00:10:53.400 to go give a speech
00:10:54.260 and I was getting ready
00:10:54.840 to walk out on stage
00:10:55.840 and Heidi told me,
00:10:57.360 she said, remember,
00:10:58.660 it's not about you.
00:11:00.820 It's about them.
00:11:02.120 It's about their children,
00:11:03.780 their hopes,
00:11:04.440 their dreams,
00:11:05.120 their future.
00:11:06.260 Like every good political address,
00:11:09.520 every good political debate,
00:11:10.720 it's not about,
00:11:12.660 I'm so awesome,
00:11:13.440 I'm so wonderful.
00:11:14.340 It is about you,
00:11:16.000 your family,
00:11:16.860 your children,
00:11:17.600 what you care about.
00:11:19.600 That I think
00:11:20.460 is the most important thing
00:11:22.100 for Trump to do tomorrow night
00:11:23.960 is focus on
00:11:26.100 how Joe Sixpack's life
00:11:28.140 was better when he was president
00:11:30.880 than it is now
00:11:31.900 and it can be better again.
00:11:34.080 It's also,
00:11:34.900 it is not all backwards looking.
00:11:37.560 It is backwards looking
00:11:38.760 only to assess
00:11:39.900 what the future will be.
00:11:41.760 Debates are also about
00:11:43.060 what is your life
00:11:44.200 going to be like next year.
00:11:45.480 Everyone wants their life
00:11:46.400 to be better.
00:11:47.460 Everyone wants their kids 0.91
00:11:48.500 to be better off.
00:11:49.280 Everyone wants their income
00:11:51.860 and their finances
00:11:52.680 to be better.
00:11:53.600 Everyone wants their hope
00:11:55.060 and future
00:11:55.980 and their safety
00:11:56.760 and security
00:11:57.380 to be better.
00:11:57.900 tomorrow night
00:12:00.500 is Trump's best chance
00:12:02.140 to hold Kamala
00:12:04.760 responsible for the failures
00:12:06.440 of her own record
00:12:07.520 and to contrast that
00:12:09.560 with the successes
00:12:10.340 of his record
00:12:11.320 and then draw the connection.
00:12:13.960 That means you at home,
00:12:16.120 your life is better
00:12:17.300 if I'm in the White House
00:12:18.960 next year.
00:12:19.440 So how short
00:12:20.840 is the list
00:12:21.760 and this is
00:12:23.060 a question
00:12:24.080 that I always ask
00:12:25.280 when I'm involved
00:12:26.000 with debate prep
00:12:27.000 is
00:12:27.500 I don't want
00:12:29.020 my guy
00:12:30.160 to go out on stage
00:12:31.400 with too much
00:12:32.720 in his head,
00:12:33.660 right?
00:12:33.940 And I don't want
00:12:34.600 to go out,
00:12:35.180 have him go out there
00:12:36.160 with too many things
00:12:37.560 where you get off
00:12:38.240 on tangents
00:12:38.980 that maybe don't connect
00:12:40.080 with the voter.
00:12:41.140 You look at the list
00:12:42.720 and it's a pretty long list
00:12:43.880 of flip-flops
00:12:44.580 that we have
00:12:45.600 basically.
00:12:46.180 Banning plastic straws,
00:12:47.280 I'd leave that one
00:12:48.000 off the list,
00:12:48.500 for example.
00:12:49.520 A mandate for automakers
00:12:50.920 might bring it up.
00:12:52.000 Banning fracking,
00:12:52.900 I'd own that
00:12:53.640 if I was him.
00:12:55.280 Mandatory buyback program
00:12:56.720 for assault weapons,
00:12:57.640 she just flip-flopped 0.97
00:12:58.560 on that
00:12:58.980 and dropped that idea
00:12:59.860 in the last week.
00:13:01.440 Decriminalizing crossing
00:13:02.240 the border,
00:13:02.760 I'd own that one.
00:13:04.520 But there's,
00:13:05.520 you know,
00:13:06.000 there's a lot
00:13:06.760 that she's flip-flopped
00:13:07.980 on.
00:13:09.200 A federal jobs guarantee,
00:13:10.940 do you lean in
00:13:11.860 on that one?
00:13:12.480 It was part of
00:13:12.940 the Green New Deal,
00:13:13.800 she says she's
00:13:14.340 no longer for it.
00:13:15.300 A Medicare for all, 0.92
00:13:16.460 do you lean in
00:13:17.360 on that one?
00:13:18.360 Reparations for slavery,
00:13:19.660 do you touch that one?
00:13:21.180 Which ones
00:13:22.080 do you stick with
00:13:23.240 and really try
00:13:24.360 to hit home runs
00:13:25.180 on if you're Trump?
00:13:26.560 There are four issues
00:13:27.680 in this debate.
00:13:29.420 Border,
00:13:30.940 inflation,
00:13:32.740 crime,
00:13:34.420 and national security.
00:13:36.180 Border's number one
00:13:37.160 and Trump needs
00:13:37.800 to pound over
00:13:38.740 and over
00:13:39.200 and over again.
00:13:40.000 When I was president,
00:13:40.940 we had the lowest rate
00:13:41.860 of illegal immigration
00:13:42.720 in 45 years.
00:13:44.380 You and Joe Biden
00:13:45.900 have deliberately
00:13:47.020 caused an invasion
00:13:48.340 of this country.
00:13:50.220 Every death
00:13:50.900 that has happened,
00:13:52.020 every child
00:13:52.780 that has been abused,
00:13:53.720 every woman 0.60
00:13:54.180 that has been raped 1.00
00:13:54.900 is because you 0.99
00:13:55.880 invited 11 and a half
00:13:58.140 million illegal immigrants
00:13:59.120 into this country
00:13:59.880 and to this day
00:14:00.980 you refuse
00:14:02.420 to fix it.
00:14:03.800 And in fact,
00:14:04.440 I would focus
00:14:05.040 on something
00:14:05.520 you and I talked
00:14:06.220 about in our podcast
00:14:06.880 last week,
00:14:07.920 which is
00:14:08.800 just last week
00:14:10.280 Mexico announced,
00:14:12.260 the government
00:14:13.000 of Mexico
00:14:13.660 that they are
00:14:14.280 paying for buses
00:14:15.900 to take
00:14:16.600 illegal immigrants
00:14:17.360 from Mexico's
00:14:18.380 southern border
00:14:19.000 to our southern border.
00:14:20.900 The government
00:14:21.360 of Mexico
00:14:21.860 is doing this.
00:14:22.740 They're putting
00:14:23.120 armed guards,
00:14:24.440 armed soldiers
00:14:25.080 on those buses
00:14:25.880 and they're
00:14:26.640 dropping them off.
00:14:27.880 They're doing this
00:14:28.940 because you,
00:14:30.340 your administration
00:14:31.180 created an app
00:14:32.480 for an illegal immigrant
00:14:33.980 down in Central America
00:14:35.320 to say,
00:14:36.140 hey,
00:14:37.140 I want to come
00:14:38.000 to America
00:14:38.640 and you invite them.
00:14:40.700 That is happening
00:14:42.080 today.
00:14:43.000 And so understand
00:14:44.560 if Kamala Harris
00:14:46.560 is president,
00:14:47.500 this invasion
00:14:48.340 will continue
00:14:49.200 but instead of
00:14:50.220 11.5 million people
00:14:51.480 it's going to be
00:14:51.960 20 million
00:14:52.580 or 30 million people
00:14:54.140 and that means
00:14:54.880 there are going
00:14:55.180 to be more dead bodies,
00:14:56.400 there are going
00:14:56.580 to be more children
00:14:57.400 assaulted,
00:14:58.240 there are going
00:14:58.500 to be more women 1.00
00:14:59.320 raped. 1.00
00:14:59.960 Making that case 0.69
00:15:01.280 is critical.
00:15:02.460 Inflation.
00:15:03.660 So on just about
00:15:04.440 every poll that is done,
00:15:06.540 the number one
00:15:07.220 and number two
00:15:07.780 issues in this country
00:15:08.760 are the crisis
00:15:10.780 of the southern border
00:15:11.760 and inflation
00:15:13.280 slash the economy.
00:15:14.460 Those are typically
00:15:15.320 one and two.
00:15:16.200 They're both
00:15:16.560 at about 30 percent
00:15:17.740 depending on the state,
00:15:19.540 depending on the time
00:15:20.240 of the poll.
00:15:21.740 One or the other
00:15:22.600 is one and two
00:15:23.460 but those two together
00:15:24.720 dominate the field.
00:15:26.900 After that,
00:15:28.100 crime,
00:15:28.640 although crime
00:15:29.260 wraps into
00:15:30.200 illegal immigration
00:15:31.080 as well,
00:15:31.760 so it is its own issue
00:15:34.440 but it's also
00:15:35.060 a subsidiary
00:15:35.900 of illegal immigration.
00:15:36.920 and then
00:15:38.460 two simultaneous wars.
00:15:40.280 Look,
00:15:40.460 I think Trump
00:15:41.040 needs to own.
00:15:42.480 When I was president,
00:15:44.520 we had no wars.
00:15:45.620 Not only that,
00:15:47.200 ISIS, 0.60
00:15:48.040 during Barack Obama,
00:15:49.400 ISIS owned a caliphate.
00:15:50.880 They were waging war.
00:15:52.300 In just a few months,
00:15:53.340 I defeated ISIS
00:15:54.100 and it was all over
00:15:55.000 and we had no war.
00:15:56.360 We had peace
00:15:56.980 and in fact,
00:15:57.980 we had peace
00:15:58.900 breaking out
00:15:59.780 in the Abraham Accords.
00:16:01.080 I signed
00:16:01.800 the Abraham Accords.
00:16:03.040 The Middle East,
00:16:03.820 we saw Arabs
00:16:04.480 and Israelis
00:16:05.040 coming together
00:16:05.820 under you
00:16:07.340 and Joe Biden.
00:16:08.600 We have the war 0.83
00:16:09.500 in Ukraine
00:16:10.100 because Russia
00:16:11.120 is encouraged
00:16:11.880 by the weakness
00:16:12.860 that you and Joe Biden have
00:16:14.620 and we see
00:16:15.980 October 7th
00:16:17.120 and the war
00:16:17.800 in Israel
00:16:19.000 because
00:16:19.820 you sent
00:16:21.220 $100 billion
00:16:22.560 to Iran
00:16:23.860 and 90%
00:16:25.000 of Hamas' funding
00:16:25.960 comes from Iran
00:16:27.220 and you funded
00:16:28.440 the death squads 0.99
00:16:29.640 that murdered Israelis. 0.72
00:16:31.640 You say
00:16:32.260 you've got Israel's back. 0.81
00:16:33.480 Why do you continue
00:16:34.460 flooding cash
00:16:35.580 into Iran?
00:16:37.520 Kamala,
00:16:38.000 you gave a speech
00:16:39.040 at the DNC
00:16:41.820 saying you will
00:16:42.680 always support Israel.
00:16:44.600 Why today
00:16:45.840 are you allowing Iran 0.90
00:16:47.960 to sell 2 million
00:16:49.100 barrels of oil a day
00:16:50.500 funding the death squads
00:16:52.800 who are fighting 1.00
00:16:53.660 and murdering Israelis 0.97
00:16:55.040 and Americans? 0.99
00:16:56.020 Why are you doing that
00:16:57.080 today?
00:16:59.100 And by the way,
00:17:00.540 I give that as a question.
00:17:02.620 I think Trump
00:17:04.020 should try to force 0.90
00:17:05.100 her to answer that,
00:17:06.060 to turn to her
00:17:06.820 and say,
00:17:07.940 answer the question.
00:17:09.400 Why?
00:17:10.340 Right now.
00:17:11.280 You are in office.
00:17:13.800 I enforced 0.68
00:17:14.780 the oil sanctions
00:17:15.860 and we cut Iran's 0.99
00:17:17.280 oil sales
00:17:18.260 from a million barrels
00:17:19.300 a day down to
00:17:19.920 300,000.
00:17:20.940 You and Joe Biden
00:17:22.000 came in,
00:17:22.540 you refused to enforce them
00:17:24.000 and Iran is selling
00:17:25.220 2 million barrels
00:17:26.240 a day.
00:17:27.380 Kamala,
00:17:28.060 why are you going
00:17:29.040 to allow Iran 0.90
00:17:29.940 to sell 2 million
00:17:30.900 barrels a day
00:17:31.600 tomorrow?
00:17:32.960 Because the money
00:17:33.680 they make
00:17:34.240 is going to fund
00:17:35.420 Hamas terrorists 0.68
00:17:36.320 that is going to 1.00
00:17:36.980 murder Israelis 1.00
00:17:37.700 and Americans. 0.99
00:17:38.860 Why are you
00:17:39.900 so committed
00:17:41.020 to giving money
00:17:42.180 to America's enemies?
00:17:44.120 She's going to respond.
00:17:44.840 And I don't know
00:17:45.100 how Kamala answers that.
00:17:46.280 Well,
00:17:46.840 and this is my question.
00:17:47.960 Do you preemptively
00:17:48.740 say what you think
00:17:49.540 the response is going
00:17:50.480 to be?
00:17:50.720 Because I think
00:17:51.340 if I was on her side,
00:17:53.020 I'd say,
00:17:53.480 look,
00:17:53.720 you're going to respond
00:17:54.320 with we have sanctions
00:17:55.040 on Iran
00:17:55.540 and I'm in favor
00:17:56.780 of those sanctions.
00:17:57.500 I'm inactive
00:17:58.000 in those sanctions.
00:17:58.780 So should he preemptively
00:17:59.680 say,
00:17:59.980 hey,
00:18:00.060 I know you're going
00:18:00.460 to say you've got
00:18:00.940 sanctions,
00:18:01.500 but they're not
00:18:01.920 being enforced
00:18:02.480 so they're worthless.
00:18:03.580 Just like you say
00:18:04.460 we have safety
00:18:05.140 at the border
00:18:05.620 and it's worthless.
00:18:06.680 It's wide open
00:18:07.440 southern border.
00:18:08.120 Everybody knows it.
00:18:09.460 Do you take that
00:18:10.260 off the table
00:18:10.900 in part of your attack
00:18:14.260 on her if you're Trump?
00:18:15.580 No, no, no.
00:18:17.140 Why?
00:18:18.460 No,
00:18:19.000 because you let her
00:18:20.260 make that response
00:18:21.360 and then you say,
00:18:22.980 look,
00:18:23.180 results better.
00:18:24.620 When I was president,
00:18:25.480 we had the lowest rate
00:18:26.240 of illegal immigration
00:18:26.980 in 45 years.
00:18:28.040 Under you,
00:18:28.620 it's the worst
00:18:29.500 in history.
00:18:30.460 So what you're doing
00:18:31.380 is not working.
00:18:32.380 When I was president,
00:18:33.340 Iran was selling
00:18:34.040 300,000 barrels a day.
00:18:35.680 Under you,
00:18:36.180 it's 2 million barrels a day.
00:18:37.520 That's $80 billion
00:18:38.740 you've given
00:18:39.600 to the Ayatollah Khamenei
00:18:40.860 who chants 0.87
00:18:41.720 death to America 0.99
00:18:42.600 and death to Israel. 1.00
00:18:44.040 I'd let her, 0.99
00:18:44.840 I'd want her to say,
00:18:46.460 we have sanctions,
00:18:47.620 we're trying.
00:18:48.580 Well,
00:18:48.920 if you're trying,
00:18:50.200 you're either 0.99
00:18:50.860 catastrophically incompetent 1.00
00:18:52.980 or you don't, 0.98
00:18:54.860 in fact,
00:18:55.320 want them to work.
00:18:56.140 Because what I can tell you
00:18:57.240 is when I was there,
00:18:58.660 it worked.
00:18:59.860 So one of us
00:19:00.860 can get the job done
00:19:02.000 and the other
00:19:02.600 could try tomorrow.
00:19:05.500 You're still,
00:19:06.300 you have the opportunity
00:19:07.440 to get the job done
00:19:08.700 right now
00:19:09.680 and you're not
00:19:11.060 doing it.
00:19:11.940 I think it's because
00:19:12.640 you don't want to do it.
00:19:13.540 I think it's because
00:19:14.420 you want the money
00:19:15.400 to go to Iran.
00:19:16.380 But whether you
00:19:17.380 want this result
00:19:18.920 or you simply
00:19:19.900 are so ineffective
00:19:21.480 that you can't
00:19:22.600 get it done,
00:19:23.460 it doesn't matter
00:19:24.500 because the result
00:19:26.400 for Americans
00:19:27.140 is our lives
00:19:28.020 are at greater jeopardy.
00:19:29.180 Today,
00:19:29.800 we have a greater risk
00:19:31.360 of a terrorist attack
00:19:32.320 than any time in history.
00:19:33.440 And that,
00:19:34.740 listen,
00:19:35.140 what I'm saying,
00:19:37.260 these are not words
00:19:38.780 that come naturally
00:19:39.640 from Donald Trump.
00:19:41.440 Yeah.
00:19:41.760 Number one,
00:19:42.600 they're based on
00:19:43.740 laying out
00:19:45.140 a detailed factual predicate.
00:19:47.300 That's not,
00:19:49.100 so look,
00:19:50.060 let's talk for a minute
00:19:51.100 about what the two candidates
00:19:52.040 are doing.
00:19:53.500 Kamala right now
00:19:54.520 is doing a very detailed
00:19:56.120 preparation session.
00:19:57.340 She has a whole room 0.99
00:19:58.100 of people.
00:19:58.680 She has someone,
00:19:59.440 I'm sure,
00:20:00.340 playing Donald Trump.
00:20:01.660 They're going through questions.
00:20:02.800 They're going through answers.
00:20:03.920 They're considering
00:20:04.600 possible options.
00:20:07.360 Trump has said
00:20:08.540 a thousand times
00:20:10.360 he doesn't prepare
00:20:11.140 for debates.
00:20:12.240 I don't know
00:20:12.920 if he's preparing
00:20:13.480 for this debate or not.
00:20:14.560 I do know
00:20:15.620 that when I debated him
00:20:16.720 over and over and over again,
00:20:18.000 I think it was right
00:20:18.980 that he did not prepare.
00:20:20.560 That's just not
00:20:21.180 how he does it,
00:20:21.920 which means
00:20:22.600 it is harder
00:20:24.160 to think through.
00:20:25.300 Now, look,
00:20:25.880 what he does well
00:20:27.280 is he has instincts
00:20:30.100 of a barroom brawler.
00:20:34.700 He has instincts
00:20:36.040 of just uppercut,
00:20:37.820 uppercut, uppercut. 0.98
00:20:38.840 And those instincts
00:20:40.260 can be valuable,
00:20:42.000 very valuable.
00:20:43.240 I will say I think
00:20:44.780 they are more dangerous
00:20:46.420 to him 0.99
00:20:47.460 with an African-American
00:20:49.620 female opponent
00:20:50.640 than they are
00:20:51.300 with an old white guy.
00:20:52.760 That it's one thing 0.99
00:20:54.080 to punch Joe Biden.
00:20:55.800 It's another thing.
00:20:57.800 Look,
00:20:59.060 it doesn't matter
00:21:00.520 what he says or does.
00:21:02.260 They're going to call him
00:21:02.940 a misogynist 0.98
00:21:03.700 and a racist. 1.00
00:21:04.380 But they desperately
00:21:06.080 want him to give
00:21:07.540 one soundbite
00:21:09.020 that is proof for it.
00:21:10.660 Yeah,
00:21:10.840 they want the clip
00:21:11.640 so they can use it
00:21:12.500 as an ad.
00:21:14.040 And so this is where
00:21:15.840 I hope they're doing
00:21:17.460 some preparation.
00:21:19.080 I don't know
00:21:19.440 if they are.
00:21:20.780 But avoiding
00:21:22.160 giving that clip
00:21:23.340 and it's where
00:21:23.900 his usual approach
00:21:25.360 of just go into
00:21:26.780 the fight
00:21:27.240 and whatever they say, 1.00
00:21:28.160 just punch him. 1.00
00:21:28.780 that has risks. 1.00
00:21:31.320 Now,
00:21:31.600 that being said,
00:21:32.660 and I said this
00:21:33.600 the night after
00:21:35.540 Biden's debate,
00:21:36.380 I called Trump
00:21:37.240 a couple days later
00:21:38.120 and told him this.
00:21:39.820 The debate against Biden
00:21:41.280 was the best debate
00:21:42.440 Donald Trump
00:21:43.040 has ever done.
00:21:44.480 He was in control.
00:21:46.280 He was measured.
00:21:47.260 He didn't go over the top.
00:21:48.520 He didn't interrupt.
00:21:50.240 And by the way,
00:21:50.900 I actually think
00:21:51.600 it is a real victory
00:21:52.580 for the Trump campaign
00:21:53.540 that the microphones
00:21:54.260 are turned off.
00:21:55.460 I think the irony is
00:21:56.720 the Biden campaign
00:21:57.680 insisted upon
00:21:58.580 that in the CNN debate
00:21:59.640 and I think it proved
00:22:01.840 a huge favor to him
00:22:03.660 because,
00:22:04.460 look,
00:22:04.780 if you look at
00:22:05.480 the first debate
00:22:06.380 between Trump and Biden
00:22:07.520 back in 2020,
00:22:08.940 that was not a good debate
00:22:10.860 and the reason it was not
00:22:13.300 is that Trump
00:22:13.860 interrupted Biden constantly
00:22:15.480 and Biden
00:22:16.620 was in the process
00:22:17.640 of crashing and burning
00:22:18.800 and Trump's interruptions
00:22:19.980 basically saved Biden.
00:22:21.960 What he did
00:22:23.200 in this most recent debate
00:22:24.720 because his microphone
00:22:25.780 was turned off
00:22:26.800 is he stayed
00:22:28.200 quiet
00:22:28.700 and let Biden 0.99
00:22:29.880 destroy himself.
00:22:31.960 Yeah.
00:22:32.240 In this instance,
00:22:33.740 and there was the whole
00:22:34.760 back and forth
00:22:35.660 where ironically,
00:22:37.280 Kamala said,
00:22:37.980 we want the mics back on
00:22:39.240 and Trump's campaign team
00:22:40.880 said,
00:22:41.180 no,
00:22:41.400 let's stick with the rules
00:22:42.240 we had.
00:22:43.360 I think that
00:22:44.600 substantively benefits Trump
00:22:46.300 because it helps him
00:22:47.680 be more disciplined
00:22:48.820 and constrained
00:22:50.380 and it lets Kamala, 1.00
00:22:54.260 she will be memorizing
00:22:56.540 little bits,
00:22:58.520 little one minute answers
00:22:59.720 and she'll be,
00:23:00.360 and she'll do some good ones.
00:23:01.980 She will have some good moments
00:23:03.340 that she memorized.
00:23:04.560 It's why
00:23:05.600 if I were Trump,
00:23:07.880 I'd ask some specific questions.
00:23:09.540 I'd put her on the, 0.83
00:23:11.600 you know,
00:23:12.560 why are you going
00:23:14.060 to allow Iran 0.90
00:23:15.160 to sell two million
00:23:16.600 barrels of oil
00:23:17.580 tomorrow
00:23:18.460 when you know
00:23:20.480 that money
00:23:21.140 will fund Hamas 0.96
00:23:22.320 and Hezbollah 0.99
00:23:22.960 and be used to murder 1.00
00:23:24.060 Israelis and Americans? 0.99
00:23:25.720 I doubt she's prepared
00:23:27.420 for that question.
00:23:28.660 If I were Trump,
00:23:29.980 I'd be thinking of
00:23:30.840 a couple of places
00:23:31.800 where she has to ad-lib 1.00
00:23:33.720 because her greatest risk
00:23:35.940 is when she's ad-libbing. 0.99
00:23:38.060 Look,
00:23:38.620 you recall
00:23:39.220 the interview she did
00:23:41.200 where she was asked about
00:23:43.820 you haven't been
00:23:44.380 to the border
00:23:44.880 and she's like,
00:23:45.680 well,
00:23:46.320 I haven't been to Europe.
00:23:47.300 I haven't been to the border.
00:23:48.260 Like,
00:23:48.940 the ad-libbing
00:23:50.160 she was bad at.
00:23:52.460 Trump wants to get her
00:23:53.960 in a position
00:23:54.640 where he asks
00:23:56.220 a really powerful question
00:23:58.200 and she can't answer it.
00:24:01.200 That would be
00:24:02.220 a blessing.
00:24:03.440 I'm not kidding
00:24:04.180 when I say a blessing
00:24:05.020 for his campaign
00:24:05.840 because it would show
00:24:06.700 exactly who she is
00:24:08.100 and many Americans,
00:24:09.160 I'm not sure they remember it
00:24:10.360 because of the media attention.
00:24:12.660 She was the most unpopular VP
00:24:14.920 that we've had
00:24:16.520 and then she became 0.95
00:24:17.940 the second coming
00:24:19.140 of the Queen
00:24:19.900 because of the coronation
00:24:21.620 and that's the,
00:24:23.040 that is who the American people
00:24:24.420 need to be reminded of.
00:24:25.680 This is who she is.
00:24:27.480 This is what she has said.
00:24:29.240 It's a tough job,
00:24:30.180 especially when the media
00:24:30.900 is protecting her.
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00:25:49.460 You mentioned crime center
00:25:51.080 as another point
00:25:51.900 that you thought
00:25:52.560 that Donald Trump
00:25:53.580 should really hit on
00:25:54.480 in this debate.
00:25:55.520 And there's a very
00:25:56.520 interesting new stat
00:25:57.520 that came out.
00:25:58.140 It's a sad stat,
00:25:59.720 but it's one
00:26:00.340 that's important.
00:26:01.640 A police officer
00:26:02.660 is shot in the U.S.
00:26:04.580 every 22 hours this year.
00:26:06.980 That is a massive increase
00:26:09.700 during the Biden-Harris era.
00:26:11.320 Police union has come out.
00:26:12.940 And they said
00:26:13.600 under the watch
00:26:14.340 of the Biden-Harris administration,
00:26:15.720 a police officer
00:26:16.320 in the United States of America
00:26:17.220 is now being shot
00:26:18.160 every 22 hours this year.
00:26:21.060 According to the
00:26:21.680 Fraternal Order of Police,
00:26:23.540 more than 260
00:26:24.980 law enforcement officers
00:26:26.540 have been shot
00:26:27.760 so far this year.
00:26:29.940 They said
00:26:30.460 this is the war on cops
00:26:31.760 is continuing
00:26:32.620 in this country
00:26:33.660 because we have
00:26:34.820 turned them into
00:26:35.500 the bad guys.
00:26:37.080 During the past
00:26:37.680 two years,
00:26:38.580 Senator,
00:26:38.740 more than 630
00:26:40.160 law enforcement officers
00:26:41.420 have been shot.
00:26:42.700 We saw 378
00:26:44.080 officers shot last year.
00:26:45.460 That is a 60% 0.84
00:26:47.200 increase
00:26:48.500 from 2018
00:26:50.240 when Donald Trump
00:26:51.160 was president.
00:26:52.300 Should that
00:26:53.020 become an issue?
00:26:53.860 So, look,
00:26:55.820 I think standing up
00:26:57.860 for law enforcement
00:26:58.900 and standing up
00:26:59.660 to secure the border
00:27:00.560 absolutely should be an issue.
00:27:02.620 I would go after Kamala
00:27:04.300 on her repeated support
00:27:06.080 for abolishing the police,
00:27:07.360 for defunding the police,
00:27:09.060 for defunding
00:27:10.220 and abolishing ICE.
00:27:11.420 This is what she's done
00:27:12.600 over and over again.
00:27:13.460 I would tie it to
00:27:14.560 her raising money
00:27:15.960 to bail out
00:27:16.720 violent protesters,
00:27:18.320 violent rioters
00:27:19.320 in Minneapolis.
00:27:21.120 And by the way,
00:27:21.660 she picked as her VP,
00:27:22.720 the most liberal governor
00:27:23.860 in America,
00:27:24.380 who refused to send in
00:27:26.200 the National Guard
00:27:27.400 to stop Minneapolis
00:27:28.860 from burning.
00:27:30.480 And so her pattern
00:27:31.880 for her entire career
00:27:34.000 has been siding
00:27:35.800 with the radicals
00:27:36.720 who undermine cops.
00:27:39.580 And Donald Trump
00:27:41.440 ought to point out,
00:27:42.140 look,
00:27:42.320 the Fraternal Order
00:27:42.900 of the Police
00:27:43.460 has endorsed me.
00:27:45.380 Law enforcement officers
00:27:46.720 across this country
00:27:47.660 have endorsed me.
00:27:48.560 The Border Patrol Union
00:27:49.740 has endorsed me.
00:27:50.800 He ought to make that point
00:27:51.820 tomorrow night.
00:27:52.960 He ought to say,
00:27:54.280 the men and women
00:27:54.980 who protect us
00:27:56.000 are standing with me
00:27:57.420 and there's a reason.
00:27:58.880 Because I stand with them.
00:28:00.460 Because I have their backs.
00:28:02.720 And Kamala Harris,
00:28:04.340 her entire career,
00:28:06.340 systematically has undermined them.
00:28:08.540 And I would turn to her
00:28:10.100 and say,
00:28:12.040 Kamala,
00:28:13.560 at a public Senate hearing,
00:28:15.360 you compared ICE,
00:28:18.120 the Immigration and Customs
00:28:19.460 Enforcement Agency,
00:28:21.040 who protect us
00:28:22.280 from violent criminals
00:28:25.000 coming to this country,
00:28:25.900 you compared them
00:28:26.860 to the KKK,
00:28:27.940 the Ku Klux Klan.
00:28:29.380 Do you still think
00:28:30.820 the people who guard
00:28:31.700 our border
00:28:32.140 and protect us
00:28:32.820 from violent criminals
00:28:33.660 coming in this country,
00:28:34.520 do you still think
00:28:35.120 they're Klansmen?
00:28:37.000 Like,
00:28:37.540 that's the sort of question
00:28:39.240 Kamala,
00:28:40.900 she doesn't have
00:28:42.480 a good answer to.
00:28:43.220 Doesn't have
00:28:45.140 a good answer to it.
00:28:46.020 And that puts her
00:28:47.240 in a corner.
00:28:48.240 How much do you think
00:28:49.140 this is going to be
00:28:50.880 a tough debate
00:28:51.620 for Trump
00:28:52.600 on the issue,
00:28:53.920 for example,
00:28:54.600 of Israel?
00:28:55.540 Like,
00:28:55.800 I think that should
00:28:56.760 be brought up.
00:28:58.000 I could see that
00:28:58.920 the media
00:28:59.500 and those that are
00:29:00.840 involved in this debate
00:29:01.720 running away
00:29:02.860 from that issue.
00:29:03.940 Should he make
00:29:04.680 that an issue as well?
00:29:05.980 And how much
00:29:06.720 he has supported
00:29:07.440 those that are
00:29:08.200 advocating for the terrorists?
00:29:10.160 He absolutely should
00:29:11.800 because it
00:29:12.680 it divides
00:29:13.720 the Democrat Party.
00:29:16.420 He should point out,
00:29:17.780 look,
00:29:17.980 it is your party
00:29:18.900 that is embracing
00:29:21.040 the pro-Hamas protesters.
00:29:23.280 It is your party
00:29:24.240 that is funding Iran 0.64
00:29:26.100 that's paying for Hamas.
00:29:27.560 It is your party
00:29:28.420 that is undermining Israel.
00:29:30.620 And,
00:29:31.140 you know,
00:29:31.740 I look,
00:29:32.300 this might be
00:29:33.000 an interesting moment
00:29:33.720 for him to turn to her
00:29:34.740 and say,
00:29:35.380 listen,
00:29:36.660 when I was president,
00:29:37.920 we had the Abraham Accords, 0.96
00:29:39.280 we had incredible
00:29:41.480 historic peace
00:29:42.700 in the Middle East.
00:29:44.660 Why did it go so badly
00:29:46.380 as soon as you
00:29:47.700 and Joe Biden
00:29:48.360 took over?
00:29:50.120 What did you do wrong?
00:29:51.780 Or, Kamala,
00:29:52.220 do you think
00:29:52.580 you did nothing wrong?
00:29:53.500 You have no,
00:29:54.760 you bear no responsibility
00:29:56.600 for the disaster
00:29:59.140 that happened
00:30:00.080 as soon as you came
00:30:01.240 into the White House.
00:30:02.960 All right,
00:30:03.200 that's another nasty question.
00:30:05.260 Like,
00:30:05.360 I don't know
00:30:06.340 how she answers that.
00:30:07.240 I actually,
00:30:08.080 if I were part
00:30:08.560 of Kamala's prep team,
00:30:11.620 that's really,
00:30:16.020 that's a tough question
00:30:18.040 to answer
00:30:18.620 because whatever she says
00:30:20.960 is a problem.
00:30:24.020 And the rioters,
00:30:27.460 look,
00:30:28.420 I wouldn't make Israel 1.00
00:30:30.160 about Israel.
00:30:31.560 I would make Israel 0.98
00:30:32.640 about America.
00:30:34.160 How do you do that?
00:30:35.600 Because that's hard to do.
00:30:36.940 I'm asking it sincerely.
00:30:38.560 How do you do that then?
00:30:41.620 Because
00:30:42.140 everyone who hates Israel
00:30:45.460 hates America.
00:30:46.380 By the way, 0.99
00:30:46.900 everyone who hates Jews 0.99
00:30:47.800 hates Christians. 0.99
00:30:49.580 Hamas 0.99
00:30:50.160 hates Israel 0.99
00:30:51.860 and they hate America. 0.92
00:30:53.320 Hezbollah
00:30:53.760 hates Israel 0.57
00:30:54.860 and they hate America.
00:30:55.960 Iran refers to Israel 0.97
00:30:57.380 as the little Satan. 0.92
00:30:58.380 They refer to America 0.83
00:30:59.320 as the great Satan. 0.80
00:31:01.680 I'd say,
00:31:02.520 Kamala,
00:31:02.960 under your administration,
00:31:05.360 you put $100 billion
00:31:06.440 in the hands of Iran.
00:31:08.660 They funded Hamas 0.99
00:31:09.840 and Hezbollah.
00:31:10.520 They committed
00:31:11.020 the greatest mass murder 0.89
00:31:12.200 of Jews
00:31:12.680 since the Holocaust 0.89
00:31:13.380 in a single day.
00:31:15.120 And they have called
00:31:16.720 for jihad against America.
00:31:18.440 Your administration
00:31:19.540 has released
00:31:21.140 multiple terrorists
00:31:22.440 who have crossed
00:31:23.220 our southern border.
00:31:24.200 It's only a matter
00:31:25.680 of time
00:31:26.400 until radical 0.98
00:31:28.540 Islamic terrorists 0.99
00:31:29.600 commit another 1.00
00:31:30.500 horrific terror attack
00:31:32.400 in the United States.
00:31:33.800 And if I were Trump,
00:31:34.720 I'd look at the camera
00:31:35.380 and say,
00:31:35.700 I'll tell you what,
00:31:36.840 if I am president,
00:31:37.860 I will protect you
00:31:38.700 against that.
00:31:39.740 We're going to secure
00:31:40.720 the border.
00:31:41.500 We're going to stop
00:31:42.420 the terrorists.
00:31:43.140 We're going to stop
00:31:43.940 letting them in
00:31:45.480 for the last four years.
00:31:47.480 So one of the most
00:31:48.880 important jobs
00:31:49.940 that Trump has to do
00:31:52.260 is to tie her 0.82
00:31:53.960 to her actual record
00:31:55.440 because her entire
00:31:56.420 campaign is based
00:31:57.620 on running away
00:31:58.760 from her record.
00:31:59.460 Now,
00:31:59.740 from Kamala's perspective,
00:32:02.420 all right,
00:32:02.820 I'm going to wager,
00:32:04.300 I'm going to offer you
00:32:04.780 a $100 bet.
00:32:06.500 All right,
00:32:07.040 you have my attention.
00:32:08.320 I like winning bets
00:32:09.120 with you.
00:32:10.120 $100 bet
00:32:11.020 that Kamala tomorrow
00:32:13.640 says the words
00:32:15.720 I'm speaking.
00:32:17.480 You going to take that bet?
00:32:18.280 Oh,
00:32:18.600 100% she's going to say it.
00:32:20.220 No,
00:32:20.400 I will not take that bet.
00:32:21.440 No way in hell.
00:32:22.260 And it's why
00:32:23.500 she's so pissed 1.00
00:32:24.600 that the mics are off.
00:32:26.020 Like,
00:32:26.120 she's been practicing.
00:32:28.200 I'm speaking.
00:32:29.900 And she has t-shirts made
00:32:31.340 to say I'm speaking
00:32:32.960 because she wants him
00:32:34.900 to interrupt her
00:32:35.820 and it's the
00:32:36.740 I am victimized.
00:32:38.460 Yeah, 1.00
00:32:38.780 he's a chauvinist pig 1.00
00:32:40.300 who's interrupting 1.00
00:32:40.920 a strong woman.
00:32:42.620 You know,
00:32:42.940 stop mansplaining.
00:32:45.040 Like,
00:32:45.280 she's ready for that.
00:32:47.940 Because the mics are off,
00:32:49.420 it's going to be harder,
00:32:50.440 but she will have a moment.
00:32:52.980 All right,
00:32:53.300 how about a dollar?
00:32:54.020 Will you take a dollar bet
00:32:54.920 that she says I'm speaking?
00:32:55.780 I'll do a dollar
00:32:55.840 just for the entertainment.
00:32:57.240 I'm just to be in the game.
00:32:58.540 All right,
00:32:58.560 so next podcast,
00:33:01.140 one or the other
00:33:02.040 is collecting a dollar.
00:33:03.960 Yeah,
00:33:04.300 I'm in for that one.
00:33:05.860 Yeah,
00:33:06.420 no problem.
00:33:07.460 I want to go back
00:33:08.180 to something you said
00:33:08.760 a moment ago.
00:33:08.980 By the way,
00:33:09.340 I admire you
00:33:10.260 as a fiscal conservative
00:33:11.260 that you're cheap as hell. 1.00
00:33:13.700 I may be dumb, 1.00
00:33:14.760 but I'm not stupid 1.00
00:33:15.480 when it comes to gambling. 0.69
00:33:16.360 I'm not Mitt Romney.
00:33:17.540 I didn't say a $10,000 bet.
00:33:19.280 I said $100.
00:33:20.360 All right,
00:33:20.880 so you want to know something
00:33:21.720 you're going to laugh at this.
00:33:22.920 So there's two things
00:33:24.120 I will always bet
00:33:25.160 because I still feel like
00:33:26.300 I win even if I lose.
00:33:27.660 You ready for the list?
00:33:28.660 It's very simple.
00:33:30.220 Queso or barbecue?
00:33:32.760 You'll bet queso
00:33:33.620 your barbecue?
00:33:33.980 You bet barbecue?
00:33:35.240 Every time,
00:33:35.960 even if I know
00:33:36.320 I'm going to lose
00:33:36.760 because even if I lose,
00:33:37.760 I still get queso or barbecue.
00:33:39.140 I still win.
00:33:40.280 All right,
00:33:40.600 so you know what Heidi
00:33:41.420 and I bet in our marriage?
00:33:42.980 I love this.
00:33:43.700 What is it?
00:33:44.320 We bet either a latte
00:33:45.660 or a back rub,
00:33:46.900 and it's kind of like
00:33:47.800 I don't care if I win or lose.
00:33:49.360 Either way,
00:33:50.000 like if I buy my wife a latte, 0.71
00:33:51.480 that's great.
00:33:52.000 If I give her a back rub, 0.97
00:33:53.100 I like giving her a back rub. 0.98
00:33:54.140 If she gives me a back rub, 0.72
00:33:55.140 I like getting a back rub.
00:33:56.560 It's like it's a perfect bet
00:33:58.060 because there's no losing.
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00:34:31.660 All right,
00:34:32.220 I want to go back to something
00:34:33.360 that you said a moment ago.
00:34:34.960 And it's a theme
00:34:36.540 that I would say
00:34:38.440 if I was in the room
00:34:39.760 tonight with Trump
00:34:41.060 doing last minute debate prep,
00:34:42.780 I would tell him
00:34:44.160 to own this line
00:34:45.380 that you mentioned.
00:34:46.240 And I want to go back to it.
00:34:48.000 You are in office now.
00:34:51.640 Is that a theme
00:34:52.860 that he should keep
00:34:53.900 hammering home
00:34:54.540 to remind people?
00:34:55.380 This is not somebody
00:34:56.720 that's running for office. 0.98
00:34:57.820 She is the incumbent.
00:34:59.020 But you're in office now.
00:35:00.780 All the problems
00:35:01.700 that you're creating
00:35:02.700 that you now claim
00:35:03.620 if you vote for me,
00:35:04.980 I'm going to fix.
00:35:06.320 Why aren't you fixing them now?
00:35:08.080 Is that a theme
00:35:09.020 he should hammer home?
00:35:11.480 Yes,
00:35:12.000 but I would connect it to this.
00:35:14.640 You say you will do X.
00:35:17.180 You're in office right now.
00:35:19.300 You're doing the opposite of X.
00:35:21.420 And it's a disaster.
00:35:23.260 Like I'd make the point
00:35:25.860 when I was a college debater
00:35:28.220 because as you know,
00:35:31.020 I was one of the cool kids.
00:35:32.140 I was not a Division I college athlete
00:35:35.160 like a certain co-host of mine.
00:35:38.580 I hear that almost took me off.
00:35:40.320 I feel like that almost took me off the list
00:35:41.900 for this gig with you, right?
00:35:43.020 It was like,
00:35:43.420 oh, he's an athlete.
00:35:44.620 Okay, you know.
00:35:46.600 Yeah, like, you know.
00:35:48.020 By the way, 1.00
00:35:48.740 I can still take your ass in hoops. 1.00
00:35:50.980 Well, that's true. 1.00
00:35:52.120 Particularly because you've gotten so skinny.
00:35:56.220 Like when you were 70 pounds heavier,
00:35:58.260 you were more dangerous
00:35:59.180 because you could post up on me
00:36:00.460 and just sort of use your mass
00:36:01.800 and you might have been able to outscore me.
00:36:04.200 You and I have not played one-on-one.
00:36:05.980 I'm faster now.
00:36:07.020 This could be a problem.
00:36:08.160 We haven't played recently. 0.99
00:36:09.240 I think I could take your ass at hoops. 1.00
00:36:12.360 Now, you can kill me at tennis. 1.00
00:36:14.200 Not even beat me, 0.99
00:36:15.840 but dominate me at tennis.
00:36:18.540 But I think I could take you at hoops.
00:36:20.000 But we may never know.
00:36:23.580 Just to be clear,
00:36:24.480 last time you played with me,
00:36:25.620 you did get your finger broken.
00:36:27.020 Yeah, I was out of commission for six, eight weeks.
00:36:29.720 Yeah, that's on you, by the way.
00:36:30.900 I'm still waiting for that workers' comp claim
00:36:32.420 to come through.
00:36:34.820 You know, keep waiting.
00:36:37.560 Just remember my...
00:36:38.360 I spent a long time on that one.
00:36:40.180 All right, but back to...
00:36:41.280 My employer owes $34 trillion.
00:36:44.700 My employer is judgment-proof.
00:36:47.480 You do work for an interesting company.
00:36:49.700 I will say that.
00:36:50.660 So, back to...
00:36:51.700 Are you...
00:36:52.360 You are in office now.
00:36:53.820 How do you keep hammering that?
00:36:56.180 I think you do it to make the...
00:36:58.680 So, anyway, the point I always make about college debate
00:37:00.600 is, particularly when you're in opposition,
00:37:04.560 the word that I would always urge a debater to say
00:37:07.600 in opposition is harms, harms, harms.
00:37:10.480 Who is hurt?
00:37:11.860 Who is hurt?
00:37:12.900 Make it real.
00:37:13.860 Make it connected to the actual harms.
00:37:16.220 This goes back to the highly advice
00:37:18.160 that she gave you when you were debating.
00:37:20.180 Yes, it's absolutely the same.
00:37:23.140 It is...
00:37:24.480 Who is losing?
00:37:26.040 Who is hurting?
00:37:26.800 So, she's going to promise...
00:37:28.420 She's going to promise I'm going to lower prices.
00:37:30.800 She's going to promise I'm going to secure the border.
00:37:32.680 She's going to promise I'm going to bring peace
00:37:34.760 to the Middle East.
00:37:35.740 And it's a very simple point.
00:37:38.420 You say this,
00:37:40.460 but if you were, in fact, going to do it,
00:37:43.300 you would do it right now.
00:37:45.340 Nothing is stopping you from doing it today.
00:37:48.880 You are doing the opposite.
00:37:52.140 If the American people want to know
00:37:54.700 what you'll do in office,
00:37:55.840 the best way to know what you'll do in office
00:37:57.800 is ask, what are you doing in office right now?
00:38:00.820 And by the way,
00:38:02.200 if the American people want to know
00:38:03.940 what I'll do in office,
00:38:05.820 the best way to know is to look at what I did
00:38:08.600 when I was in office.
00:38:10.720 When I was in office,
00:38:12.080 we had the lowest unemployment rate in 50 years.
00:38:15.060 When I was in office,
00:38:16.400 we had the lowest African-American unemployment
00:38:18.240 ever recorded.
00:38:19.640 When I was in office,
00:38:20.660 we had the lowest Hispanic unemployment
00:38:22.380 ever recorded.
00:38:23.700 When I was in office,
00:38:24.860 we had historically low inflation
00:38:26.920 at 2% or lower.
00:38:28.680 When I was in office,
00:38:29.660 we had the lowest rate of illegal immigration
00:38:31.340 in 45 years.
00:38:32.720 When I was in office,
00:38:33.980 we had peace and prosperity worldwide.
00:38:36.760 Russia didn't invade anybody.
00:38:39.420 China didn't invade anybody.
00:38:42.180 And Israel was not only at peace,
00:38:44.500 but was negotiating historic peace agreements
00:38:48.680 with Arab neighbors.
00:38:50.920 Every single thing that worked well
00:38:53.440 for the American people,
00:38:54.900 you and Joe Biden have screwed up.
00:38:57.180 And you're campaigning, 0.70
00:38:58.840 promising it'll be different,
00:39:00.220 but you're not willing to change anything today.
00:39:02.700 I think you're going to continue
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00:41:23.920 Senator,
00:41:24.920 final question for you
00:41:26.180 and you said earlier
00:41:27.080 you think
00:41:27.540 that we'll only have
00:41:28.920 one debate.
00:41:30.180 What would make
00:41:31.200 Kamala Harris
00:41:31.980 have debate two
00:41:33.100 and how important
00:41:34.840 is it to get her
00:41:36.440 into a second debate
00:41:37.680 after this one?
00:41:38.540 Because look,
00:41:39.240 the reality is
00:41:40.380 this is still
00:41:41.820 two months away
00:41:42.740 from election day
00:41:43.720 and Americans
00:41:45.320 have like a
00:41:46.320 0.2%
00:41:48.540 second memory
00:41:50.160 when it comes to stuff.
00:41:51.060 I mean,
00:41:51.200 we have Donald Trump
00:41:52.180 that was just shot
00:41:53.160 for goodness sakes.
00:41:53.920 And no one's
00:41:55.640 talking about
00:41:56.100 that anymore.
00:41:57.180 Well,
00:41:57.680 that can't be true.
00:41:58.480 Alexa told me
00:41:59.100 it didn't happen.
00:42:00.320 That's true.
00:42:00.940 Good point.
00:42:02.540 Which is a great example
00:42:03.900 of how big tech
00:42:04.740 is wildly biased
00:42:05.820 and trying to
00:42:06.640 completely skew
00:42:07.640 the election results
00:42:08.640 as is,
00:42:09.320 for example,
00:42:10.260 the entire
00:42:10.780 corporate media.
00:42:11.660 Look,
00:42:12.040 the only way
00:42:12.780 I think Kamala
00:42:13.420 does another debate
00:42:14.300 is if this goes
00:42:15.940 so catastrophically bad
00:42:17.580 that her team
00:42:18.120 concludes
00:42:18.660 that she is losing
00:42:19.840 unless something
00:42:21.280 happens different.
00:42:22.060 I think
00:42:23.780 that's unlikely.
00:42:24.700 It's possible.
00:42:26.420 But I don't
00:42:27.600 think this debate
00:42:28.780 is going to be
00:42:29.460 the same sort
00:42:30.080 of bloodbath
00:42:30.820 that the Trump-Biden
00:42:32.680 debate was.
00:42:33.860 I think the narrative
00:42:35.260 after the debate,
00:42:37.160 every media outlet
00:42:38.200 is going to say
00:42:39.120 Kamala won.
00:42:40.120 She could literally
00:42:41.200 fall to the ground,
00:42:42.660 curl up at a ball,
00:42:43.660 and begin crying
00:42:44.500 and wailing hysterically,
00:42:45.940 and they'd say
00:42:46.680 Kamala won.
00:42:47.300 Because that's
00:42:49.040 what they want
00:42:49.760 to say
00:42:50.160 because they know
00:42:50.720 they can't pull her.
00:42:51.700 They were willing
00:42:52.400 to attack Biden
00:42:53.360 because they said,
00:42:54.160 wow,
00:42:54.320 we can get rid
00:42:54.880 of this guy
00:42:55.480 and be in a better
00:42:56.720 position to win.
00:42:58.240 At this point,
00:42:59.420 they're committed.
00:43:00.420 They are tied
00:43:01.580 to the mast
00:43:02.400 of the ship
00:43:03.800 Kamala Harris,
00:43:04.560 so it doesn't matter
00:43:05.500 what she does.
00:43:07.380 They're going to say
00:43:08.220 she won.
00:43:09.840 So it would take
00:43:11.200 something truly epic
00:43:13.780 for it to be bad enough
00:43:15.720 for them to be willing
00:43:17.080 to agree to another debate.
00:43:18.260 Now, Trump wants
00:43:19.160 another debate.
00:43:20.120 He's asked for a Fox News debate,
00:43:21.860 but of course Kamala
00:43:22.620 will not go in front
00:43:23.580 of a hostile questioner.
00:43:24.720 She wants the questioner,
00:43:26.820 she wants the moderators 1.00
00:43:27.820 to be on her side.
00:43:29.760 And by the way,
00:43:31.660 let's close.
00:43:32.580 I want you to listen
00:43:33.400 to this compilation
00:43:34.760 of Kamala Harris
00:43:36.720 debating Pence
00:43:37.720 and her saying
00:43:38.500 what I said she's going
00:43:39.580 to say tomorrow night.
00:43:40.600 I'm speaking.
00:43:41.620 Give a listen.
00:43:42.680 Mr. Vice President,
00:43:43.500 I'm speaking.
00:43:44.140 I have to weigh in.
00:43:44.480 I'm speaking.
00:43:44.900 Mr. Vice President,
00:43:46.060 I'm speaking.
00:43:46.940 I'm speaking.
00:43:48.580 It would be important
00:43:49.040 if you said the truth.
00:43:50.280 Mr. Vice President,
00:43:51.300 I'm speaking.
00:43:52.080 I'm speaking.
00:43:53.180 If you don't mind
00:43:54.360 letting me finish,
00:43:55.760 we can then have
00:43:56.360 a conversation, okay?
00:43:57.740 Please.
00:43:58.200 Okay.
00:43:58.900 I'm trying to answer you now.
00:44:00.180 American people
00:44:00.680 deserve a straight answer.
00:44:01.820 I will not sit here
00:44:02.700 and be lectured
00:44:03.280 by the Vice President.
00:44:04.500 I'm speaking.
00:44:05.500 Yeah, I'm about to.
00:44:06.860 I will not be lectured
00:44:08.140 by the Vice President.
00:44:10.020 I mean,
00:44:10.700 that's her dream scenario, right?
00:44:13.060 Do that to Donald Trump
00:44:14.500 all night.
00:44:15.400 She's going to try.
00:44:17.120 With the mics off,
00:44:18.140 it's going to be harder,
00:44:19.040 but she's still going to say it.
00:44:20.360 It's going to be
00:44:20.880 an interesting debate.
00:44:21.800 It's going to be
00:44:22.280 very interesting to see
00:44:23.020 if we get a second one
00:44:23.840 out of it,
00:44:24.280 and it'll be interesting
00:44:24.900 to see how the media
00:44:25.540 spins it if it is a bad debate.
00:44:27.180 We're going to cover it all
00:44:28.100 for you.
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