Verdict with Ted Cruz - September 09, 2024


Debate Preview： What Trump & Harris Need to do to WIN!


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00:00:05.420 Welcome, it is Verdict with Senator Ted Cruz, Ben Ferguson with you.
00:00:09.440 And this is that show that for me is a fun one, Senator,
00:00:12.540 because we get to talk about a very important debate.
00:00:16.760 We nailed the last debate, presidential debate,
00:00:19.400 by saying that if Joe Biden had a bad night, he would not be the nominee.
00:00:23.980 We were right on that one.
00:00:25.340 So what's the prediction this time?
00:00:26.960 So tomorrow night is in all likelihood the single most important night between now and Election Day.
00:00:33.320 Both candidates have a lot to lose.
00:00:36.440 The stakes are very high.
00:00:38.500 I think this will be the only debate between Donald Trump and Kamala Harris.
00:00:42.640 I don't think Kamala wants to do another debate.
00:00:44.900 That means tomorrow night, Kamala's got to make it through it.
00:00:48.580 If she makes it through it, her team will put her back in Joe Biden's basement,
00:00:52.720 and she will not leave again until Election Day.
00:00:54.840 She'll come out periodically to read a speech from a teleprompter,
00:00:58.420 and then they'll throw her back in the basement.
00:01:00.300 Trump, on the other hand, this is the single best opportunity
00:01:04.200 to lay out the massive difference between his record and Kamala's record,
00:01:09.600 but it also has a lot of risk.
00:01:11.740 She's going to try very hard to bait him.
00:01:14.480 She wants him to look like a jerk.
00:01:16.900 She's going to do everything she can to try to make him look like a jerk,
00:01:21.100 and he's going to have to show a superhuman level of restraint,
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00:03:15.060 So, you said a moment ago you think this is the most important debate.
00:03:19.240 Is this the most important debate for Trump
00:03:22.680 as much as it is important for Kamala Harris?
00:03:25.400 Who has a tougher night hitting a home run?
00:03:29.980 So, this debate is huge for both of them.
00:03:33.440 Now, I don't think it will be the most consequential debate ever.
00:03:36.920 That was the last debate.
00:03:38.300 And our listeners will recall
00:03:40.520 the night of the Trump-Biden debate,
00:03:43.580 we recorded a special pod that night.
00:03:46.400 By the way, we'll do this again.
00:03:48.220 We'll do a special pod the night of the Tuesday debate,
00:03:52.000 and we'll give our analysis real time right after the debate.
00:03:55.640 But the Biden-Trump debate,
00:03:58.500 we said that night,
00:03:59.580 was the most consequential presidential debate in history
00:04:02.140 because, and we predicted it that evening,
00:04:04.740 it would change the names on the ballot.
00:04:07.560 That's exactly what it did.
00:04:08.960 That debate resulted in Joe Biden being pulled off the ballot.
00:04:12.920 This debate, I don't think,
00:04:14.040 is going to have that level of consequence.
00:04:15.900 We know the names on the ballot now.
00:04:17.580 They're going to be Donald Trump and Kamala Harris.
00:04:19.320 That's not going to change.
00:04:20.340 But from Trump's perspective,
00:04:24.600 the upside is very significant.
00:04:26.940 This will be his single greatest moment
00:04:29.260 to cut through the billions of dollars of media propaganda.
00:04:33.980 The media is doing everything they can
00:04:35.720 to lionize, to canonize Kamala Harris.
00:04:39.780 The debate tomorrow night
00:04:41.300 is his chance to lay out substantively
00:04:45.040 why people's lives were better when he was president
00:04:48.940 than they have been while she and Biden
00:04:52.240 are running the federal government,
00:04:53.560 and why people's lives will be better next year
00:04:57.640 when he is president again
00:04:59.600 than they are right now under Joe Biden and Kamala Harris.
00:05:04.080 So the upside is significant.
00:05:07.200 From Kamala,
00:05:08.620 the upside is not as great as the downside.
00:05:11.400 Listen, there is a reason.
00:05:12.740 Her team does not trust her extemporaneously.
00:05:17.840 There is a reason.
00:05:19.360 Like, I am not aware of any precedent in history
00:05:22.680 for any campaign doing what Kamala is doing,
00:05:26.860 which is utterly and completely hiding from the media.
00:05:29.980 They have so much concern about her ability
00:05:33.200 to answer questions on the fly
00:05:34.860 that this debate has a real downside.
00:05:38.800 If she says something really dumb,
00:05:40.940 if she crashes and burns,
00:05:43.080 that's a risk.
00:05:45.160 On the other hand,
00:05:46.620 look, you and I have talked about this before.
00:05:50.020 I worry that Republicans underestimate Kamala Harris.
00:05:55.500 I agree.
00:05:56.060 I think a lot of Republicans think she's dumb as rocks.
00:06:02.220 And that's not the case.
00:06:04.360 Listen, I've served with her in the Senate.
00:06:05.780 And the problem is Republican expectations
00:06:11.460 are so low for Kamala
00:06:13.780 that it really does lower the expectations for the debate.
00:06:18.220 So if she does, fine.
00:06:20.460 If she gets up and gives reasonable answers
00:06:24.540 and doesn't have a catastrophe,
00:06:27.780 the media will all spin it as a huge victory for her.
00:06:31.560 That's dangerous because, as I said,
00:06:35.180 the expectations have been defined so low
00:06:38.060 that she doesn't need to clear all that much
00:06:40.300 for it to be considered by all of the media
00:06:43.460 a victory on Kamala Harris's part.
00:06:46.240 You know, the last debate also had a different,
00:06:48.620 I think, bar standard.
00:06:50.620 Right when it began,
00:06:52.280 I think the media realized,
00:06:53.760 we can't fix this.
00:06:55.060 We've got to get rid of this guy.
00:06:56.060 We've got to dump him.
00:06:57.080 And you and I did a post-debate analysis,
00:06:59.840 which we will also do after this one.
00:07:02.740 And it was very clear instantly,
00:07:05.540 this was, we've got to get rid of this guy.
00:07:07.280 We've got to get rid of this guy.
00:07:08.320 We've got to get rid of this guy.
00:07:09.400 We've got to get rid of this guy.
00:07:10.360 And you could hear it as soon as the debate was over
00:07:12.760 on all the channels.
00:07:13.700 And everybody, everybody,
00:07:14.420 CNN, ABC, CBS, NBC,
00:07:16.480 all the media,
00:07:17.720 the Democratic operatives,
00:07:19.000 they were all,
00:07:20.160 get rid of Biden.
00:07:21.080 We're going to lose.
00:07:21.960 Give us a new choice.
00:07:23.400 Yeah.
00:07:23.800 And so when you knew that was a chance,
00:07:27.160 they don't have that option now.
00:07:28.800 So they're going to have to tell everybody,
00:07:30.440 even if it is not a great night,
00:07:32.020 that it's a better night than it was
00:07:33.320 or wasn't that bad, right?
00:07:34.560 They're going to spin it.
00:07:35.480 We know that because they can't replace her.
00:07:37.840 Like they're stuck.
00:07:39.480 We're within the 60 day window here.
00:07:41.880 This is the candidate.
00:07:43.080 So they're going to lie if they have to.
00:07:45.380 They're going to cover for her if they have to.
00:07:47.260 So what is a bad night actually look like for her?
00:07:51.580 Is it getting stumped?
00:07:53.460 Is it, you know,
00:07:54.840 getting fact checked
00:07:55.880 or just saying things aren't true
00:07:57.460 or nailing her on her flip flops?
00:07:59.020 Because if you look at the list,
00:08:00.900 she has basically changed her position
00:08:02.660 on almost everything that's significant
00:08:04.920 in the last two weeks.
00:08:06.400 I mean, we're talking about,
00:08:07.080 she's changed her,
00:08:08.580 what she thought on fracking.
00:08:10.260 She's changed her thoughts
00:08:11.220 on getting rid of combustion engines and cars.
00:08:13.900 She's changed on almost every major policy she held.
00:08:17.160 Now she's in favor of the wall.
00:08:18.480 Yeah, look, I think the flip flopping
00:08:23.180 is less damaging
00:08:24.460 than the actual substantive failures
00:08:28.300 of her administration.
00:08:32.000 You and I talked about this
00:08:33.600 the night of her speech at the DNC convention.
00:08:36.280 There were lots of aspects of that speech,
00:08:38.880 but the most fundamental was
00:08:40.420 that it's divorced from reality.
00:08:42.660 Her campaign is trying to run a campaign
00:08:44.740 like she's a challenger.
00:08:46.040 They are treating Donald J. Trump
00:08:48.520 like he's the incumbent president.
00:08:50.560 It's fundamentally weird.
00:08:52.120 That's not how VPs run.
00:08:53.660 VPs run saying,
00:08:55.940 our record in this administration
00:08:57.960 has been really successful,
00:08:59.660 continue the success.
00:09:01.680 She's tried to run away
00:09:03.160 from everything the last four years.
00:09:06.240 And so, listen,
00:09:08.500 my advice to Trump would be
00:09:09.860 don't focus as much on the flip flopping.
00:09:12.840 Focus on the fact that her actual record,
00:09:15.200 look, you don't have to tell us
00:09:17.760 what you would do.
00:09:18.740 You're in office.
00:09:19.880 You're doing it right now.
00:09:22.180 And what you're doing right now
00:09:24.760 is a disaster.
00:09:26.860 So it doesn't really matter
00:09:29.480 what empty promises you make
00:09:31.200 because we are seeing the effects.
00:09:34.220 And the most important advice for Trump,
00:09:38.420 well, actually,
00:09:38.880 there's a number of different bits of advice.
00:09:40.980 One is don't blow his top.
00:09:43.380 Don't get provoked.
00:09:44.520 And by the way,
00:09:45.060 Kamala's entire strategy
00:09:46.220 is going to be to piss him off.
00:09:47.880 She wants him to blow his top
00:09:49.800 and become a spectacle.
00:09:50.860 She wants him to look like
00:09:53.320 an abusive jerk.
00:09:56.000 That is, I promise you,
00:09:57.800 her debate team,
00:09:59.300 she's sitting there
00:10:00.240 with Pete Buttigieg
00:10:01.160 and a bunch of smart Democrats
00:10:02.840 saying, okay,
00:10:04.340 how can you poke him?
00:10:05.740 What irritates him?
00:10:06.820 What makes him angry?
00:10:08.020 And they want to paint him
00:10:10.240 so their spinners
00:10:12.280 will say that he's a misogynist
00:10:15.300 and a racist,
00:10:15.840 that he doesn't like women
00:10:17.020 and he doesn't like African Americans.
00:10:19.060 It doesn't matter what he says.
00:10:20.240 That's going to be their spin.
00:10:21.660 But she's going to try really hard
00:10:24.200 to get him to say something
00:10:27.620 that they can point to as proof
00:10:30.220 for the claim
00:10:30.880 that they're already planning to make.
00:10:33.080 And so from his perspective,
00:10:36.360 the downside he has to avoid
00:10:38.980 is stepping into that,
00:10:40.060 is getting provoked.
00:10:43.280 The upside he has,
00:10:44.940 you know,
00:10:45.160 the best political advice
00:10:46.320 I've ever gotten
00:10:46.940 was something Heidi told me years ago,
00:10:50.040 right when I was first running
00:10:51.280 for the Senate
00:10:51.800 and I was getting ready
00:10:53.400 to go give a speech
00:10:54.260 and I was getting ready
00:10:54.840 to walk out on stage
00:10:55.840 and Heidi told me,
00:10:57.360 she said, remember,
00:10:58.660 it's not about you.
00:11:00.820 It's about them.
00:11:02.120 It's about their children,
00:11:03.780 their hopes,
00:11:04.440 their dreams,
00:11:05.120 their future.
00:11:06.260 Like every good political address,
00:11:09.520 every good political debate,
00:11:10.720 it's not about,
00:11:12.660 I'm so awesome,
00:11:13.440 I'm so wonderful.
00:11:14.340 It is about you,
00:11:16.000 your family,
00:11:16.860 your children,
00:11:17.600 what you care about.
00:11:19.600 That I think
00:11:20.460 is the most important thing
00:11:22.100 for Trump to do tomorrow night
00:11:23.960 is focus on
00:11:26.100 how Joe Sixpack's life
00:11:28.140 was better when he was president
00:11:30.880 than it is now
00:11:31.900 and it can be better again.
00:11:34.080 It's also,
00:11:34.900 it is not all backwards looking.
00:11:37.560 It is backwards looking
00:11:38.760 only to assess
00:11:39.900 what the future will be.
00:11:41.760 Debates are also about
00:11:43.060 what is your life
00:11:44.200 going to be like next year.
00:11:45.480 Everyone wants their life
00:11:46.400 to be better.
00:11:47.460 Everyone wants their kids
00:11:48.500 to be better off.
00:11:49.280 Everyone wants their income
00:11:51.860 and their finances
00:11:52.680 to be better.
00:11:53.600 Everyone wants their hope
00:11:55.060 and future
00:11:55.980 and their safety
00:11:56.760 and security
00:11:57.380 to be better.
00:11:57.900 tomorrow night
00:12:00.500 is Trump's best chance
00:12:02.140 to hold Kamala
00:12:04.760 responsible for the failures
00:12:06.440 of her own record
00:12:07.520 and to contrast that
00:12:09.560 with the successes
00:12:10.340 of his record
00:12:11.320 and then draw the connection.
00:12:13.960 That means you at home,
00:12:16.120 your life is better
00:12:17.300 if I'm in the White House
00:12:18.960 next year.
00:12:19.440 So how short
00:12:20.840 is the list
00:12:21.760 and this is
00:12:23.060 a question
00:12:24.080 that I always ask
00:12:25.280 when I'm involved
00:12:26.000 with debate prep
00:12:27.000 is
00:12:27.500 I don't want
00:12:29.020 my guy
00:12:30.160 to go out on stage
00:12:31.400 with too much
00:12:32.720 in his head,
00:12:33.660 right?
00:12:33.940 And I don't want
00:12:34.600 to go out,
00:12:35.180 have him go out there
00:12:36.160 with too many things
00:12:37.560 where you get off
00:12:38.240 on tangents
00:12:38.980 that maybe don't connect
00:12:40.080 with the voter.
00:12:41.140 You look at the list
00:12:42.720 and it's a pretty long list
00:12:43.880 of flip-flops
00:12:44.580 that we have
00:12:45.600 basically.
00:12:46.180 Banning plastic straws,
00:12:47.280 I'd leave that one
00:12:48.000 off the list,
00:12:48.500 for example.
00:12:49.520 A mandate for automakers
00:12:50.920 might bring it up.
00:12:52.000 Banning fracking,
00:12:52.900 I'd own that
00:12:53.640 if I was him.
00:12:55.280 Mandatory buyback program
00:12:56.720 for assault weapons,
00:12:57.640 she just flip-flopped
00:12:58.560 on that
00:12:58.980 and dropped that idea
00:12:59.860 in the last week.
00:13:01.440 Decriminalizing crossing
00:13:02.240 the border,
00:13:02.760 I'd own that one.
00:13:04.520 But there's,
00:13:05.520 you know,
00:13:06.000 there's a lot
00:13:06.760 that she's flip-flopped
00:13:07.980 on.
00:13:09.200 A federal jobs guarantee,
00:13:10.940 do you lean in
00:13:11.860 on that one?
00:13:12.480 It was part of
00:13:12.940 the Green New Deal,
00:13:13.800 she says she's
00:13:14.340 no longer for it.
00:13:15.300 A Medicare for all,
00:13:16.460 do you lean in
00:13:17.360 on that one?
00:13:18.360 Reparations for slavery,
00:13:19.660 do you touch that one?
00:13:21.180 Which ones
00:13:22.080 do you stick with
00:13:23.240 and really try
00:13:24.360 to hit home runs
00:13:25.180 on if you're Trump?
00:13:26.560 There are four issues
00:13:27.680 in this debate.
00:13:29.420 Border,
00:13:30.940 inflation,
00:13:32.740 crime,
00:13:34.420 and national security.
00:13:36.180 Border's number one
00:13:37.160 and Trump needs
00:13:37.800 to pound over
00:13:38.740 and over
00:13:39.200 and over again.
00:13:40.000 When I was president,
00:13:40.940 we had the lowest rate
00:13:41.860 of illegal immigration
00:13:42.720 in 45 years.
00:13:44.380 You and Joe Biden
00:13:45.900 have deliberately
00:13:47.020 caused an invasion
00:13:48.340 of this country.
00:13:50.220 Every death
00:13:50.900 that has happened,
00:13:52.020 every child
00:13:52.780 that has been abused,
00:13:53.720 every woman
00:13:54.180 that has been raped
00:13:54.900 is because you
00:13:55.880 invited 11 and a half
00:13:58.140 million illegal immigrants
00:13:59.120 into this country
00:13:59.880 and to this day
00:14:00.980 you refuse
00:14:02.420 to fix it.
00:14:03.800 And in fact,
00:14:04.440 I would focus
00:14:05.040 on something
00:14:05.520 you and I talked
00:14:06.220 about in our podcast
00:14:06.880 last week,
00:14:07.920 which is
00:14:08.800 just last week
00:14:10.280 Mexico announced,
00:14:12.260 the government
00:14:13.000 of Mexico
00:14:13.660 that they are
00:14:14.280 paying for buses
00:14:15.900 to take
00:14:16.600 illegal immigrants
00:14:17.360 from Mexico's
00:14:18.380 southern border
00:14:19.000 to our southern border.
00:14:20.900 The government
00:14:21.360 of Mexico
00:14:21.860 is doing this.
00:14:22.740 They're putting
00:14:23.120 armed guards,
00:14:24.440 armed soldiers
00:14:25.080 on those buses
00:14:25.880 and they're
00:14:26.640 dropping them off.
00:14:27.880 They're doing this
00:14:28.940 because you,
00:14:30.340 your administration
00:14:31.180 created an app
00:14:32.480 for an illegal immigrant
00:14:33.980 down in Central America
00:14:35.320 to say,
00:14:36.140 hey,
00:14:37.140 I want to come
00:14:38.000 to America
00:14:38.640 and you invite them.
00:14:40.700 That is happening
00:14:42.080 today.
00:14:43.000 And so understand
00:14:44.560 if Kamala Harris
00:14:46.560 is president,
00:14:47.500 this invasion
00:14:48.340 will continue
00:14:49.200 but instead of
00:14:50.220 11.5 million people
00:14:51.480 it's going to be
00:14:51.960 20 million
00:14:52.580 or 30 million people
00:14:54.140 and that means
00:14:54.880 there are going
00:14:55.180 to be more dead bodies,
00:14:56.400 there are going
00:14:56.580 to be more children
00:14:57.400 assaulted,
00:14:58.240 there are going
00:14:58.500 to be more women
00:14:59.320 raped.
00:14:59.960 Making that case
00:15:01.280 is critical.
00:15:02.460 Inflation.
00:15:03.660 So on just about
00:15:04.440 every poll that is done,
00:15:06.540 the number one
00:15:07.220 and number two
00:15:07.780 issues in this country
00:15:08.760 are the crisis
00:15:10.780 of the southern border
00:15:11.760 and inflation
00:15:13.280 slash the economy.
00:15:14.460 Those are typically
00:15:15.320 one and two.
00:15:16.200 They're both
00:15:16.560 at about 30 percent
00:15:17.740 depending on the state,
00:15:19.540 depending on the time
00:15:20.240 of the poll.
00:15:21.740 One or the other
00:15:22.600 is one and two
00:15:23.460 but those two together
00:15:24.720 dominate the field.
00:15:26.900 After that,
00:15:28.100 crime,
00:15:28.640 although crime
00:15:29.260 wraps into
00:15:30.200 illegal immigration
00:15:31.080 as well,
00:15:31.760 so it is its own issue
00:15:34.440 but it's also
00:15:35.060 a subsidiary
00:15:35.900 of illegal immigration.
00:15:36.920 and then
00:15:38.460 two simultaneous wars.
00:15:40.280 Look,
00:15:40.460 I think Trump
00:15:41.040 needs to own.
00:15:42.480 When I was president,
00:15:44.520 we had no wars.
00:15:45.620 Not only that,
00:15:47.200 ISIS,
00:15:48.040 during Barack Obama,
00:15:49.400 ISIS owned a caliphate.
00:15:50.880 They were waging war.
00:15:52.300 In just a few months,
00:15:53.340 I defeated ISIS
00:15:54.100 and it was all over
00:15:55.000 and we had no war.
00:15:56.360 We had peace
00:15:56.980 and in fact,
00:15:57.980 we had peace
00:15:58.900 breaking out
00:15:59.780 in the Abraham Accords.
00:16:01.080 I signed
00:16:01.800 the Abraham Accords.
00:16:03.040 The Middle East,
00:16:03.820 we saw Arabs
00:16:04.480 and Israelis
00:16:05.040 coming together
00:16:05.820 under you
00:16:07.340 and Joe Biden.
00:16:08.600 We have the war
00:16:09.500 in Ukraine
00:16:10.100 because Russia
00:16:11.120 is encouraged
00:16:11.880 by the weakness
00:16:12.860 that you and Joe Biden have
00:16:14.620 and we see
00:16:15.980 October 7th
00:16:17.120 and the war
00:16:17.800 in Israel
00:16:19.000 because
00:16:19.820 you sent
00:16:21.220 $100 billion
00:16:22.560 to Iran
00:16:23.860 and 90%
00:16:25.000 of Hamas' funding
00:16:25.960 comes from Iran
00:16:27.220 and you funded
00:16:28.440 the death squads
00:16:29.640 that murdered Israelis.
00:16:31.640 You say
00:16:32.260 you've got Israel's back.
00:16:33.480 Why do you continue
00:16:34.460 flooding cash
00:16:35.580 into Iran?
00:16:37.520 Kamala,
00:16:38.000 you gave a speech
00:16:39.040 at the DNC
00:16:41.820 saying you will
00:16:42.680 always support Israel.
00:16:44.600 Why today
00:16:45.840 are you allowing Iran
00:16:47.960 to sell 2 million
00:16:49.100 barrels of oil a day
00:16:50.500 funding the death squads
00:16:52.800 who are fighting
00:16:53.660 and murdering Israelis
00:16:55.040 and Americans?
00:16:56.020 Why are you doing that
00:16:57.080 today?
00:16:59.100 And by the way,
00:17:00.540 I give that as a question.
00:17:02.620 I think Trump
00:17:04.020 should try to force
00:17:05.100 her to answer that,
00:17:06.060 to turn to her
00:17:06.820 and say,
00:17:07.940 answer the question.
00:17:09.400 Why?
00:17:10.340 Right now.
00:17:11.280 You are in office.
00:17:13.800 I enforced
00:17:14.780 the oil sanctions
00:17:15.860 and we cut Iran's
00:17:17.280 oil sales
00:17:18.260 from a million barrels
00:17:19.300 a day down to
00:17:19.920 300,000.
00:17:20.940 You and Joe Biden
00:17:22.000 came in,
00:17:22.540 you refused to enforce them
00:17:24.000 and Iran is selling
00:17:25.220 2 million barrels
00:17:26.240 a day.
00:17:27.380 Kamala,
00:17:28.060 why are you going
00:17:29.040 to allow Iran
00:17:29.940 to sell 2 million
00:17:30.900 barrels a day
00:17:31.600 tomorrow?
00:17:32.960 Because the money
00:17:33.680 they make
00:17:34.240 is going to fund
00:17:35.420 Hamas terrorists
00:17:36.320 that is going to
00:17:36.980 murder Israelis
00:17:37.700 and Americans.
00:17:38.860 Why are you
00:17:39.900 so committed
00:17:41.020 to giving money
00:17:42.180 to America's enemies?
00:17:44.120 She's going to respond.
00:17:44.840 And I don't know
00:17:45.100 how Kamala answers that.
00:17:46.280 Well,
00:17:46.840 and this is my question.
00:17:47.960 Do you preemptively
00:17:48.740 say what you think
00:17:49.540 the response is going
00:17:50.480 to be?
00:17:50.720 Because I think
00:17:51.340 if I was on her side,
00:17:53.020 I'd say,
00:17:53.480 look,
00:17:53.720 you're going to respond
00:17:54.320 with we have sanctions
00:17:55.040 on Iran
00:17:55.540 and I'm in favor
00:17:56.780 of those sanctions.
00:17:57.500 I'm inactive
00:17:58.000 in those sanctions.
00:17:58.780 So should he preemptively
00:17:59.680 say,
00:17:59.980 hey,
00:18:00.060 I know you're going
00:18:00.460 to say you've got
00:18:00.940 sanctions,
00:18:01.500 but they're not
00:18:01.920 being enforced
00:18:02.480 so they're worthless.
00:18:03.580 Just like you say
00:18:04.460 we have safety
00:18:05.140 at the border
00:18:05.620 and it's worthless.
00:18:06.680 It's wide open
00:18:07.440 southern border.
00:18:08.120 Everybody knows it.
00:18:09.460 Do you take that
00:18:10.260 off the table
00:18:10.900 in part of your attack
00:18:14.260 on her if you're Trump?
00:18:15.580 No, no, no.
00:18:17.140 Why?
00:18:18.460 No,
00:18:19.000 because you let her
00:18:20.260 make that response
00:18:21.360 and then you say,
00:18:22.980 look,
00:18:23.180 results better.
00:18:24.620 When I was president,
00:18:25.480 we had the lowest rate
00:18:26.240 of illegal immigration
00:18:26.980 in 45 years.
00:18:28.040 Under you,
00:18:28.620 it's the worst
00:18:29.500 in history.
00:18:30.460 So what you're doing
00:18:31.380 is not working.
00:18:32.380 When I was president,
00:18:33.340 Iran was selling
00:18:34.040 300,000 barrels a day.
00:18:35.680 Under you,
00:18:36.180 it's 2 million barrels a day.
00:18:37.520 That's $80 billion
00:18:38.740 you've given
00:18:39.600 to the Ayatollah Khamenei
00:18:40.860 who chants
00:18:41.720 death to America
00:18:42.600 and death to Israel.
00:18:44.040 I'd let her,
00:18:44.840 I'd want her to say,
00:18:46.460 we have sanctions,
00:18:47.620 we're trying.
00:18:48.580 Well,
00:18:48.920 if you're trying,
00:18:50.200 you're either
00:18:50.860 catastrophically incompetent
00:18:52.980 or you don't,
00:18:54.860 in fact,
00:18:55.320 want them to work.
00:18:56.140 Because what I can tell you
00:18:57.240 is when I was there,
00:18:58.660 it worked.
00:18:59.860 So one of us
00:19:00.860 can get the job done
00:19:02.000 and the other
00:19:02.600 could try tomorrow.
00:19:05.500 You're still,
00:19:06.300 you have the opportunity
00:19:07.440 to get the job done
00:19:08.700 right now
00:19:09.680 and you're not
00:19:11.060 doing it.
00:19:11.940 I think it's because
00:19:12.640 you don't want to do it.
00:19:13.540 I think it's because
00:19:14.420 you want the money
00:19:15.400 to go to Iran.
00:19:16.380 But whether you
00:19:17.380 want this result
00:19:18.920 or you simply
00:19:19.900 are so ineffective
00:19:21.480 that you can't
00:19:22.600 get it done,
00:19:23.460 it doesn't matter
00:19:24.500 because the result
00:19:26.400 for Americans
00:19:27.140 is our lives
00:19:28.020 are at greater jeopardy.
00:19:29.180 Today,
00:19:29.800 we have a greater risk
00:19:31.360 of a terrorist attack
00:19:32.320 than any time in history.
00:19:33.440 And that,
00:19:34.740 listen,
00:19:35.140 what I'm saying,
00:19:37.260 these are not words
00:19:38.780 that come naturally
00:19:39.640 from Donald Trump.
00:19:41.440 Yeah.
00:19:41.760 Number one,
00:19:42.600 they're based on
00:19:43.740 laying out
00:19:45.140 a detailed factual predicate.
00:19:47.300 That's not,
00:19:49.100 so look,
00:19:50.060 let's talk for a minute
00:19:51.100 about what the two candidates
00:19:52.040 are doing.
00:19:53.500 Kamala right now
00:19:54.520 is doing a very detailed
00:19:56.120 preparation session.
00:19:57.340 She has a whole room
00:19:58.100 of people.
00:19:58.680 She has someone,
00:19:59.440 I'm sure,
00:20:00.340 playing Donald Trump.
00:20:01.660 They're going through questions.
00:20:02.800 They're going through answers.
00:20:03.920 They're considering
00:20:04.600 possible options.
00:20:07.360 Trump has said
00:20:08.540 a thousand times
00:20:10.360 he doesn't prepare
00:20:11.140 for debates.
00:20:12.240 I don't know
00:20:12.920 if he's preparing
00:20:13.480 for this debate or not.
00:20:14.560 I do know
00:20:15.620 that when I debated him
00:20:16.720 over and over and over again,
00:20:18.000 I think it was right
00:20:18.980 that he did not prepare.
00:20:20.560 That's just not
00:20:21.180 how he does it,
00:20:21.920 which means
00:20:22.600 it is harder
00:20:24.160 to think through.
00:20:25.300 Now, look,
00:20:25.880 what he does well
00:20:27.280 is he has instincts
00:20:30.100 of a barroom brawler.
00:20:34.700 He has instincts
00:20:36.040 of just uppercut,
00:20:37.820 uppercut, uppercut.
00:20:38.840 And those instincts
00:20:40.260 can be valuable,
00:20:42.000 very valuable.
00:20:43.240 I will say I think
00:20:44.780 they are more dangerous
00:20:46.420 to him
00:20:47.460 with an African-American
00:20:49.620 female opponent
00:20:50.640 than they are
00:20:51.300 with an old white guy.
00:20:52.760 That it's one thing
00:20:54.080 to punch Joe Biden.
00:20:55.800 It's another thing.
00:20:57.800 Look,
00:20:59.060 it doesn't matter
00:21:00.520 what he says or does.
00:21:02.260 They're going to call him
00:21:02.940 a misogynist
00:21:03.700 and a racist.
00:21:04.380 But they desperately
00:21:06.080 want him to give
00:21:07.540 one soundbite
00:21:09.020 that is proof for it.
00:21:10.660 Yeah,
00:21:10.840 they want the clip
00:21:11.640 so they can use it
00:21:12.500 as an ad.
00:21:14.040 And so this is where
00:21:15.840 I hope they're doing
00:21:17.460 some preparation.
00:21:19.080 I don't know
00:21:19.440 if they are.
00:21:20.780 But avoiding
00:21:22.160 giving that clip
00:21:23.340 and it's where
00:21:23.900 his usual approach
00:21:25.360 of just go into
00:21:26.780 the fight
00:21:27.240 and whatever they say,
00:21:28.160 just punch him.
00:21:28.780 that has risks.
00:21:31.320 Now,
00:21:31.600 that being said,
00:21:32.660 and I said this
00:21:33.600 the night after
00:21:35.540 Biden's debate,
00:21:36.380 I called Trump
00:21:37.240 a couple days later
00:21:38.120 and told him this.
00:21:39.820 The debate against Biden
00:21:41.280 was the best debate
00:21:42.440 Donald Trump
00:21:43.040 has ever done.
00:21:44.480 He was in control.
00:21:46.280 He was measured.
00:21:47.260 He didn't go over the top.
00:21:48.520 He didn't interrupt.
00:21:50.240 And by the way,
00:21:50.900 I actually think
00:21:51.600 it is a real victory
00:21:52.580 for the Trump campaign
00:21:53.540 that the microphones
00:21:54.260 are turned off.
00:21:55.460 I think the irony is
00:21:56.720 the Biden campaign
00:21:57.680 insisted upon
00:21:58.580 that in the CNN debate
00:21:59.640 and I think it proved
00:22:01.840 a huge favor to him
00:22:03.660 because,
00:22:04.460 look,
00:22:04.780 if you look at
00:22:05.480 the first debate
00:22:06.380 between Trump and Biden
00:22:07.520 back in 2020,
00:22:08.940 that was not a good debate
00:22:10.860 and the reason it was not
00:22:13.300 is that Trump
00:22:13.860 interrupted Biden constantly
00:22:15.480 and Biden
00:22:16.620 was in the process
00:22:17.640 of crashing and burning
00:22:18.800 and Trump's interruptions
00:22:19.980 basically saved Biden.
00:22:21.960 What he did
00:22:23.200 in this most recent debate
00:22:24.720 because his microphone
00:22:25.780 was turned off
00:22:26.800 is he stayed
00:22:28.200 quiet
00:22:28.700 and let Biden
00:22:29.880 destroy himself.
00:22:31.960 Yeah.
00:22:32.240 In this instance,
00:22:33.740 and there was the whole
00:22:34.760 back and forth
00:22:35.660 where ironically,
00:22:37.280 Kamala said,
00:22:37.980 we want the mics back on
00:22:39.240 and Trump's campaign team
00:22:40.880 said,
00:22:41.180 no,
00:22:41.400 let's stick with the rules
00:22:42.240 we had.
00:22:43.360 I think that
00:22:44.600 substantively benefits Trump
00:22:46.300 because it helps him
00:22:47.680 be more disciplined
00:22:48.820 and constrained
00:22:50.380 and it lets Kamala,
00:22:54.260 she will be memorizing
00:22:56.540 little bits,
00:22:58.520 little one minute answers
00:22:59.720 and she'll be,
00:23:00.360 and she'll do some good ones.
00:23:01.980 She will have some good moments
00:23:03.340 that she memorized.
00:23:04.560 It's why
00:23:05.600 if I were Trump,
00:23:07.880 I'd ask some specific questions.
00:23:09.540 I'd put her on the,
00:23:11.600 you know,
00:23:12.560 why are you going
00:23:14.060 to allow Iran
00:23:15.160 to sell two million
00:23:16.600 barrels of oil
00:23:17.580 tomorrow
00:23:18.460 when you know
00:23:20.480 that money
00:23:21.140 will fund Hamas
00:23:22.320 and Hezbollah
00:23:22.960 and be used to murder
00:23:24.060 Israelis and Americans?
00:23:25.720 I doubt she's prepared
00:23:27.420 for that question.
00:23:28.660 If I were Trump,
00:23:29.980 I'd be thinking of
00:23:30.840 a couple of places
00:23:31.800 where she has to ad-lib
00:23:33.720 because her greatest risk
00:23:35.940 is when she's ad-libbing.
00:23:38.060 Look,
00:23:38.620 you recall
00:23:39.220 the interview she did
00:23:41.200 where she was asked about
00:23:43.820 you haven't been
00:23:44.380 to the border
00:23:44.880 and she's like,
00:23:45.680 well,
00:23:46.320 I haven't been to Europe.
00:23:47.300 I haven't been to the border.
00:23:48.260 Like,
00:23:48.940 the ad-libbing
00:23:50.160 she was bad at.
00:23:52.460 Trump wants to get her
00:23:53.960 in a position
00:23:54.640 where he asks
00:23:56.220 a really powerful question
00:23:58.200 and she can't answer it.
00:24:01.200 That would be
00:24:02.220 a blessing.
00:24:03.440 I'm not kidding
00:24:04.180 when I say a blessing
00:24:05.020 for his campaign
00:24:05.840 because it would show
00:24:06.700 exactly who she is
00:24:08.100 and many Americans,
00:24:09.160 I'm not sure they remember it
00:24:10.360 because of the media attention.
00:24:12.660 She was the most unpopular VP
00:24:14.920 that we've had
00:24:16.520 and then she became
00:24:17.940 the second coming
00:24:19.140 of the Queen
00:24:19.900 because of the coronation
00:24:21.620 and that's the,
00:24:23.040 that is who the American people
00:24:24.420 need to be reminded of.
00:24:25.680 This is who she is.
00:24:27.480 This is what she has said.
00:24:29.240 It's a tough job,
00:24:30.180 especially when the media
00:24:30.900 is protecting her.
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00:25:49.460 You mentioned crime center
00:25:51.080 as another point
00:25:51.900 that you thought
00:25:52.560 that Donald Trump
00:25:53.580 should really hit on
00:25:54.480 in this debate.
00:25:55.520 And there's a very
00:25:56.520 interesting new stat
00:25:57.520 that came out.
00:25:58.140 It's a sad stat,
00:25:59.720 but it's one
00:26:00.340 that's important.
00:26:01.640 A police officer
00:26:02.660 is shot in the U.S.
00:26:04.580 every 22 hours this year.
00:26:06.980 That is a massive increase
00:26:09.700 during the Biden-Harris era.
00:26:11.320 Police union has come out.
00:26:12.940 And they said
00:26:13.600 under the watch
00:26:14.340 of the Biden-Harris administration,
00:26:15.720 a police officer
00:26:16.320 in the United States of America
00:26:17.220 is now being shot
00:26:18.160 every 22 hours this year.
00:26:21.060 According to the
00:26:21.680 Fraternal Order of Police,
00:26:23.540 more than 260
00:26:24.980 law enforcement officers
00:26:26.540 have been shot
00:26:27.760 so far this year.
00:26:29.940 They said
00:26:30.460 this is the war on cops
00:26:31.760 is continuing
00:26:32.620 in this country
00:26:33.660 because we have
00:26:34.820 turned them into
00:26:35.500 the bad guys.
00:26:37.080 During the past
00:26:37.680 two years,
00:26:38.580 Senator,
00:26:38.740 more than 630
00:26:40.160 law enforcement officers
00:26:41.420 have been shot.
00:26:42.700 We saw 378
00:26:44.080 officers shot last year.
00:26:45.460 That is a 60%
00:26:47.200 increase
00:26:48.500 from 2018
00:26:50.240 when Donald Trump
00:26:51.160 was president.
00:26:52.300 Should that
00:26:53.020 become an issue?
00:26:53.860 So, look,
00:26:55.820 I think standing up
00:26:57.860 for law enforcement
00:26:58.900 and standing up
00:26:59.660 to secure the border
00:27:00.560 absolutely should be an issue.
00:27:02.620 I would go after Kamala
00:27:04.300 on her repeated support
00:27:06.080 for abolishing the police,
00:27:07.360 for defunding the police,
00:27:09.060 for defunding
00:27:10.220 and abolishing ICE.
00:27:11.420 This is what she's done
00:27:12.600 over and over again.
00:27:13.460 I would tie it to
00:27:14.560 her raising money
00:27:15.960 to bail out
00:27:16.720 violent protesters,
00:27:18.320 violent rioters
00:27:19.320 in Minneapolis.
00:27:21.120 And by the way,
00:27:21.660 she picked as her VP,
00:27:22.720 the most liberal governor
00:27:23.860 in America,
00:27:24.380 who refused to send in
00:27:26.200 the National Guard
00:27:27.400 to stop Minneapolis
00:27:28.860 from burning.
00:27:30.480 And so her pattern
00:27:31.880 for her entire career
00:27:34.000 has been siding
00:27:35.800 with the radicals
00:27:36.720 who undermine cops.
00:27:39.580 And Donald Trump
00:27:41.440 ought to point out,
00:27:42.140 look,
00:27:42.320 the Fraternal Order
00:27:42.900 of the Police
00:27:43.460 has endorsed me.
00:27:45.380 Law enforcement officers
00:27:46.720 across this country
00:27:47.660 have endorsed me.
00:27:48.560 The Border Patrol Union
00:27:49.740 has endorsed me.
00:27:50.800 He ought to make that point
00:27:51.820 tomorrow night.
00:27:52.960 He ought to say,
00:27:54.280 the men and women
00:27:54.980 who protect us
00:27:56.000 are standing with me
00:27:57.420 and there's a reason.
00:27:58.880 Because I stand with them.
00:28:00.460 Because I have their backs.
00:28:02.720 And Kamala Harris,
00:28:04.340 her entire career,
00:28:06.340 systematically has undermined them.
00:28:08.540 And I would turn to her
00:28:10.100 and say,
00:28:12.040 Kamala,
00:28:13.560 at a public Senate hearing,
00:28:15.360 you compared ICE,
00:28:18.120 the Immigration and Customs
00:28:19.460 Enforcement Agency,
00:28:21.040 who protect us
00:28:22.280 from violent criminals
00:28:25.000 coming to this country,
00:28:25.900 you compared them
00:28:26.860 to the KKK,
00:28:27.940 the Ku Klux Klan.
00:28:29.380 Do you still think
00:28:30.820 the people who guard
00:28:31.700 our border
00:28:32.140 and protect us
00:28:32.820 from violent criminals
00:28:33.660 coming in this country,
00:28:34.520 do you still think
00:28:35.120 they're Klansmen?
00:28:37.000 Like,
00:28:37.540 that's the sort of question
00:28:39.240 Kamala,
00:28:40.900 she doesn't have
00:28:42.480 a good answer to.
00:28:43.220 Doesn't have
00:28:45.140 a good answer to it.
00:28:46.020 And that puts her
00:28:47.240 in a corner.
00:28:48.240 How much do you think
00:28:49.140 this is going to be
00:28:50.880 a tough debate
00:28:51.620 for Trump
00:28:52.600 on the issue,
00:28:53.920 for example,
00:28:54.600 of Israel?
00:28:55.540 Like,
00:28:55.800 I think that should
00:28:56.760 be brought up.
00:28:58.000 I could see that
00:28:58.920 the media
00:28:59.500 and those that are
00:29:00.840 involved in this debate
00:29:01.720 running away
00:29:02.860 from that issue.
00:29:03.940 Should he make
00:29:04.680 that an issue as well?
00:29:05.980 And how much
00:29:06.720 he has supported
00:29:07.440 those that are
00:29:08.200 advocating for the terrorists?
00:29:10.160 He absolutely should
00:29:11.800 because it
00:29:12.680 it divides
00:29:13.720 the Democrat Party.
00:29:16.420 He should point out,
00:29:17.780 look,
00:29:17.980 it is your party
00:29:18.900 that is embracing
00:29:21.040 the pro-Hamas protesters.
00:29:23.280 It is your party
00:29:24.240 that is funding Iran
00:29:26.100 that's paying for Hamas.
00:29:27.560 It is your party
00:29:28.420 that is undermining Israel.
00:29:30.620 And,
00:29:31.140 you know,
00:29:31.740 I look,
00:29:32.300 this might be
00:29:33.000 an interesting moment
00:29:33.720 for him to turn to her
00:29:34.740 and say,
00:29:35.380 listen,
00:29:36.660 when I was president,
00:29:37.920 we had the Abraham Accords,
00:29:39.280 we had incredible
00:29:41.480 historic peace
00:29:42.700 in the Middle East.
00:29:44.660 Why did it go so badly
00:29:46.380 as soon as you
00:29:47.700 and Joe Biden
00:29:48.360 took over?
00:29:50.120 What did you do wrong?
00:29:51.780 Or, Kamala,
00:29:52.220 do you think
00:29:52.580 you did nothing wrong?
00:29:53.500 You have no,
00:29:54.760 you bear no responsibility
00:29:56.600 for the disaster
00:29:59.140 that happened
00:30:00.080 as soon as you came
00:30:01.240 into the White House.
00:30:02.960 All right,
00:30:03.200 that's another nasty question.
00:30:05.260 Like,
00:30:05.360 I don't know
00:30:06.340 how she answers that.
00:30:07.240 I actually,
00:30:08.080 if I were part
00:30:08.560 of Kamala's prep team,
00:30:11.620 that's really,
00:30:16.020 that's a tough question
00:30:18.040 to answer
00:30:18.620 because whatever she says
00:30:20.960 is a problem.
00:30:24.020 And the rioters,
00:30:27.460 look,
00:30:28.420 I wouldn't make Israel
00:30:30.160 about Israel.
00:30:31.560 I would make Israel
00:30:32.640 about America.
00:30:34.160 How do you do that?
00:30:35.600 Because that's hard to do.
00:30:36.940 I'm asking it sincerely.
00:30:38.560 How do you do that then?
00:30:41.620 Because
00:30:42.140 everyone who hates Israel
00:30:45.460 hates America.
00:30:46.380 By the way,
00:30:46.900 everyone who hates Jews
00:30:47.800 hates Christians.
00:30:49.580 Hamas
00:30:50.160 hates Israel
00:30:51.860 and they hate America.
00:30:53.320 Hezbollah
00:30:53.760 hates Israel
00:30:54.860 and they hate America.
00:30:55.960 Iran refers to Israel
00:30:57.380 as the little Satan.
00:30:58.380 They refer to America
00:30:59.320 as the great Satan.
00:31:01.680 I'd say,
00:31:02.520 Kamala,
00:31:02.960 under your administration,
00:31:05.360 you put $100 billion
00:31:06.440 in the hands of Iran.
00:31:08.660 They funded Hamas
00:31:09.840 and Hezbollah.
00:31:10.520 They committed
00:31:11.020 the greatest mass murder
00:31:12.200 of Jews
00:31:12.680 since the Holocaust
00:31:13.380 in a single day.
00:31:15.120 And they have called
00:31:16.720 for jihad against America.
00:31:18.440 Your administration
00:31:19.540 has released
00:31:21.140 multiple terrorists
00:31:22.440 who have crossed
00:31:23.220 our southern border.
00:31:24.200 It's only a matter
00:31:25.680 of time
00:31:26.400 until radical
00:31:28.540 Islamic terrorists
00:31:29.600 commit another
00:31:30.500 horrific terror attack
00:31:32.400 in the United States.
00:31:33.800 And if I were Trump,
00:31:34.720 I'd look at the camera
00:31:35.380 and say,
00:31:35.700 I'll tell you what,
00:31:36.840 if I am president,
00:31:37.860 I will protect you
00:31:38.700 against that.
00:31:39.740 We're going to secure
00:31:40.720 the border.
00:31:41.500 We're going to stop
00:31:42.420 the terrorists.
00:31:43.140 We're going to stop
00:31:43.940 letting them in
00:31:45.480 for the last four years.
00:31:47.480 So one of the most
00:31:48.880 important jobs
00:31:49.940 that Trump has to do
00:31:52.260 is to tie her
00:31:53.960 to her actual record
00:31:55.440 because her entire
00:31:56.420 campaign is based
00:31:57.620 on running away
00:31:58.760 from her record.
00:31:59.460 Now,
00:31:59.740 from Kamala's perspective,
00:32:02.420 all right,
00:32:02.820 I'm going to wager,
00:32:04.300 I'm going to offer you
00:32:04.780 a $100 bet.
00:32:06.500 All right,
00:32:07.040 you have my attention.
00:32:08.320 I like winning bets
00:32:09.120 with you.
00:32:10.120 $100 bet
00:32:11.020 that Kamala tomorrow
00:32:13.640 says the words
00:32:15.720 I'm speaking.
00:32:17.480 You going to take that bet?
00:32:18.280 Oh,
00:32:18.600 100% she's going to say it.
00:32:20.220 No,
00:32:20.400 I will not take that bet.
00:32:21.440 No way in hell.
00:32:22.260 And it's why
00:32:23.500 she's so pissed
00:32:24.600 that the mics are off.
00:32:26.020 Like,
00:32:26.120 she's been practicing.
00:32:28.200 I'm speaking.
00:32:29.900 And she has t-shirts made
00:32:31.340 to say I'm speaking
00:32:32.960 because she wants him
00:32:34.900 to interrupt her
00:32:35.820 and it's the
00:32:36.740 I am victimized.
00:32:38.460 Yeah,
00:32:38.780 he's a chauvinist pig
00:32:40.300 who's interrupting
00:32:40.920 a strong woman.
00:32:42.620 You know,
00:32:42.940 stop mansplaining.
00:32:45.040 Like,
00:32:45.280 she's ready for that.
00:32:47.940 Because the mics are off,
00:32:49.420 it's going to be harder,
00:32:50.440 but she will have a moment.
00:32:52.980 All right,
00:32:53.300 how about a dollar?
00:32:54.020 Will you take a dollar bet
00:32:54.920 that she says I'm speaking?
00:32:55.780 I'll do a dollar
00:32:55.840 just for the entertainment.
00:32:57.240 I'm just to be in the game.
00:32:58.540 All right,
00:32:58.560 so next podcast,
00:33:01.140 one or the other
00:33:02.040 is collecting a dollar.
00:33:03.960 Yeah,
00:33:04.300 I'm in for that one.
00:33:05.860 Yeah,
00:33:06.420 no problem.
00:33:07.460 I want to go back
00:33:08.180 to something you said
00:33:08.760 a moment ago.
00:33:08.980 By the way,
00:33:09.340 I admire you
00:33:10.260 as a fiscal conservative
00:33:11.260 that you're cheap as hell.
00:33:13.700 I may be dumb,
00:33:14.760 but I'm not stupid
00:33:15.480 when it comes to gambling.
00:33:16.360 I'm not Mitt Romney.
00:33:17.540 I didn't say a $10,000 bet.
00:33:19.280 I said $100.
00:33:20.360 All right,
00:33:20.880 so you want to know something
00:33:21.720 you're going to laugh at this.
00:33:22.920 So there's two things
00:33:24.120 I will always bet
00:33:25.160 because I still feel like
00:33:26.300 I win even if I lose.
00:33:27.660 You ready for the list?
00:33:28.660 It's very simple.
00:33:30.220 Queso or barbecue?
00:33:32.760 You'll bet queso
00:33:33.620 your barbecue?
00:33:33.980 You bet barbecue?
00:33:35.240 Every time,
00:33:35.960 even if I know
00:33:36.320 I'm going to lose
00:33:36.760 because even if I lose,
00:33:37.760 I still get queso or barbecue.
00:33:39.140 I still win.
00:33:40.280 All right,
00:33:40.600 so you know what Heidi
00:33:41.420 and I bet in our marriage?
00:33:42.980 I love this.
00:33:43.700 What is it?
00:33:44.320 We bet either a latte
00:33:45.660 or a back rub,
00:33:46.900 and it's kind of like
00:33:47.800 I don't care if I win or lose.
00:33:49.360 Either way,
00:33:50.000 like if I buy my wife a latte,
00:33:51.480 that's great.
00:33:52.000 If I give her a back rub,
00:33:53.100 I like giving her a back rub.
00:33:54.140 If she gives me a back rub,
00:33:55.140 I like getting a back rub.
00:33:56.560 It's like it's a perfect bet
00:33:58.060 because there's no losing.
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00:34:31.660 All right,
00:34:32.220 I want to go back to something
00:34:33.360 that you said a moment ago.
00:34:34.960 And it's a theme
00:34:36.540 that I would say
00:34:38.440 if I was in the room
00:34:39.760 tonight with Trump
00:34:41.060 doing last minute debate prep,
00:34:42.780 I would tell him
00:34:44.160 to own this line
00:34:45.380 that you mentioned.
00:34:46.240 And I want to go back to it.
00:34:48.000 You are in office now.
00:34:51.640 Is that a theme
00:34:52.860 that he should keep
00:34:53.900 hammering home
00:34:54.540 to remind people?
00:34:55.380 This is not somebody
00:34:56.720 that's running for office.
00:34:57.820 She is the incumbent.
00:34:59.020 But you're in office now.
00:35:00.780 All the problems
00:35:01.700 that you're creating
00:35:02.700 that you now claim
00:35:03.620 if you vote for me,
00:35:04.980 I'm going to fix.
00:35:06.320 Why aren't you fixing them now?
00:35:08.080 Is that a theme
00:35:09.020 he should hammer home?
00:35:11.480 Yes,
00:35:12.000 but I would connect it to this.
00:35:14.640 You say you will do X.
00:35:17.180 You're in office right now.
00:35:19.300 You're doing the opposite of X.
00:35:21.420 And it's a disaster.
00:35:23.260 Like I'd make the point
00:35:25.860 when I was a college debater
00:35:28.220 because as you know,
00:35:31.020 I was one of the cool kids.
00:35:32.140 I was not a Division I college athlete
00:35:35.160 like a certain co-host of mine.
00:35:38.580 I hear that almost took me off.
00:35:40.320 I feel like that almost took me off the list
00:35:41.900 for this gig with you, right?
00:35:43.020 It was like,
00:35:43.420 oh, he's an athlete.
00:35:44.620 Okay, you know.
00:35:46.600 Yeah, like, you know.
00:35:48.020 By the way,
00:35:48.740 I can still take your ass in hoops.
00:35:50.980 Well, that's true.
00:35:52.120 Particularly because you've gotten so skinny.
00:35:56.220 Like when you were 70 pounds heavier,
00:35:58.260 you were more dangerous
00:35:59.180 because you could post up on me
00:36:00.460 and just sort of use your mass
00:36:01.800 and you might have been able to outscore me.
00:36:04.200 You and I have not played one-on-one.
00:36:05.980 I'm faster now.
00:36:07.020 This could be a problem.
00:36:08.160 We haven't played recently.
00:36:09.240 I think I could take your ass at hoops.
00:36:12.360 Now, you can kill me at tennis.
00:36:14.200 Not even beat me,
00:36:15.840 but dominate me at tennis.
00:36:18.540 But I think I could take you at hoops.
00:36:20.000 But we may never know.
00:36:23.580 Just to be clear,
00:36:24.480 last time you played with me,
00:36:25.620 you did get your finger broken.
00:36:27.020 Yeah, I was out of commission for six, eight weeks.
00:36:29.720 Yeah, that's on you, by the way.
00:36:30.900 I'm still waiting for that workers' comp claim
00:36:32.420 to come through.
00:36:34.820 You know, keep waiting.
00:36:37.560 Just remember my...
00:36:38.360 I spent a long time on that one.
00:36:40.180 All right, but back to...
00:36:41.280 My employer owes $34 trillion.
00:36:44.700 My employer is judgment-proof.
00:36:47.480 You do work for an interesting company.
00:36:49.700 I will say that.
00:36:50.660 So, back to...
00:36:51.700 Are you...
00:36:52.360 You are in office now.
00:36:53.820 How do you keep hammering that?
00:36:56.180 I think you do it to make the...
00:36:58.680 So, anyway, the point I always make about college debate
00:37:00.600 is, particularly when you're in opposition,
00:37:04.560 the word that I would always urge a debater to say
00:37:07.600 in opposition is harms, harms, harms.
00:37:10.480 Who is hurt?
00:37:11.860 Who is hurt?
00:37:12.900 Make it real.
00:37:13.860 Make it connected to the actual harms.
00:37:16.220 This goes back to the highly advice
00:37:18.160 that she gave you when you were debating.
00:37:20.180 Yes, it's absolutely the same.
00:37:23.140 It is...
00:37:24.480 Who is losing?
00:37:26.040 Who is hurting?
00:37:26.800 So, she's going to promise...
00:37:28.420 She's going to promise I'm going to lower prices.
00:37:30.800 She's going to promise I'm going to secure the border.
00:37:32.680 She's going to promise I'm going to bring peace
00:37:34.760 to the Middle East.
00:37:35.740 And it's a very simple point.
00:37:38.420 You say this,
00:37:40.460 but if you were, in fact, going to do it,
00:37:43.300 you would do it right now.
00:37:45.340 Nothing is stopping you from doing it today.
00:37:48.880 You are doing the opposite.
00:37:52.140 If the American people want to know
00:37:54.700 what you'll do in office,
00:37:55.840 the best way to know what you'll do in office
00:37:57.800 is ask, what are you doing in office right now?
00:38:00.820 And by the way,
00:38:02.200 if the American people want to know
00:38:03.940 what I'll do in office,
00:38:05.820 the best way to know is to look at what I did
00:38:08.600 when I was in office.
00:38:10.720 When I was in office,
00:38:12.080 we had the lowest unemployment rate in 50 years.
00:38:15.060 When I was in office,
00:38:16.400 we had the lowest African-American unemployment
00:38:18.240 ever recorded.
00:38:19.640 When I was in office,
00:38:20.660 we had the lowest Hispanic unemployment
00:38:22.380 ever recorded.
00:38:23.700 When I was in office,
00:38:24.860 we had historically low inflation
00:38:26.920 at 2% or lower.
00:38:28.680 When I was in office,
00:38:29.660 we had the lowest rate of illegal immigration
00:38:31.340 in 45 years.
00:38:32.720 When I was in office,
00:38:33.980 we had peace and prosperity worldwide.
00:38:36.760 Russia didn't invade anybody.
00:38:39.420 China didn't invade anybody.
00:38:42.180 And Israel was not only at peace,
00:38:44.500 but was negotiating historic peace agreements
00:38:48.680 with Arab neighbors.
00:38:50.920 Every single thing that worked well
00:38:53.440 for the American people,
00:38:54.900 you and Joe Biden have screwed up.
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00:41:24.920 final question for you
00:41:26.180 and you said earlier
00:41:27.080 you think
00:41:27.540 that we'll only have
00:41:28.920 one debate.
00:41:30.180 What would make
00:41:31.200 Kamala Harris
00:41:31.980 have debate two
00:41:33.100 and how important
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00:41:36.440 into a second debate
00:41:37.680 after this one?
00:41:38.540 Because look,
00:41:39.240 the reality is
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00:41:43.720 and Americans
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00:41:51.060 I mean,
00:41:51.200 we have Donald Trump
00:41:52.180 that was just shot
00:41:53.160 for goodness sakes.
00:41:53.920 And no one's
00:41:55.640 talking about
00:41:56.100 that anymore.
00:41:57.180 Well,
00:41:57.680 that can't be true.
00:41:58.480 Alexa told me
00:41:59.100 it didn't happen.
00:42:00.320 That's true.
00:42:00.940 Good point.
00:42:02.540 Which is a great example
00:42:03.900 of how big tech
00:42:04.740 is wildly biased
00:42:05.820 and trying to
00:42:06.640 completely skew
00:42:07.640 the election results
00:42:08.640 as is,
00:42:09.320 for example,
00:42:10.260 the entire
00:42:10.780 corporate media.
00:42:11.660 Look,
00:42:12.040 the only way
00:42:12.780 I think Kamala
00:42:13.420 does another debate
00:42:14.300 is if this goes
00:42:15.940 so catastrophically bad
00:42:17.580 that her team
00:42:18.120 concludes
00:42:18.660 that she is losing
00:42:19.840 unless something
00:42:21.280 happens different.
00:42:22.060 I think
00:42:23.780 that's unlikely.
00:42:24.700 It's possible.
00:42:26.420 But I don't
00:42:27.600 think this debate
00:42:28.780 is going to be
00:42:29.460 the same sort
00:42:30.080 of bloodbath
00:42:30.820 that the Trump-Biden
00:42:32.680 debate was.
00:42:33.860 I think the narrative
00:42:35.260 after the debate,
00:42:37.160 every media outlet
00:42:38.200 is going to say
00:42:39.120 Kamala won.
00:42:40.120 She could literally
00:42:41.200 fall to the ground,
00:42:42.660 curl up at a ball,
00:42:43.660 and begin crying
00:42:44.500 and wailing hysterically,
00:42:45.940 and they'd say
00:42:46.680 Kamala won.
00:42:47.300 Because that's
00:42:49.040 what they want
00:42:49.760 to say
00:42:50.160 because they know
00:42:50.720 they can't pull her.
00:42:51.700 They were willing
00:42:52.400 to attack Biden
00:42:53.360 because they said,
00:42:54.160 wow,
00:42:54.320 we can get rid
00:42:54.880 of this guy
00:42:55.480 and be in a better
00:42:56.720 position to win.
00:42:58.240 At this point,
00:42:59.420 they're committed.
00:43:00.420 They are tied
00:43:01.580 to the mast
00:43:02.400 of the ship
00:43:03.800 Kamala Harris,
00:43:04.560 so it doesn't matter
00:43:05.500 what she does.
00:43:07.380 They're going to say
00:43:08.220 she won.
00:43:09.840 So it would take
00:43:11.200 something truly epic
00:43:13.780 for it to be bad enough
00:43:15.720 for them to be willing
00:43:17.080 to agree to another debate.
00:43:18.260 Now, Trump wants
00:43:19.160 another debate.
00:43:20.120 He's asked for a Fox News debate,
00:43:21.860 but of course Kamala
00:43:22.620 will not go in front
00:43:23.580 of a hostile questioner.
00:43:24.720 She wants the questioner,
00:43:26.820 she wants the moderators
00:43:27.820 to be on her side.
00:43:29.760 And by the way,
00:43:31.660 let's close.
00:43:32.580 I want you to listen
00:43:33.400 to this compilation
00:43:34.760 of Kamala Harris
00:43:36.720 debating Pence
00:43:37.720 and her saying
00:43:38.500 what I said she's going
00:43:39.580 to say tomorrow night.
00:43:40.600 I'm speaking.
00:43:41.620 Give a listen.
00:43:42.680 Mr. Vice President,
00:43:43.500 I'm speaking.
00:43:44.140 I have to weigh in.
00:43:44.480 I'm speaking.
00:43:44.900 Mr. Vice President,
00:43:46.060 I'm speaking.
00:43:46.940 I'm speaking.
00:43:48.580 It would be important
00:43:49.040 if you said the truth.
00:43:50.280 Mr. Vice President,
00:43:51.300 I'm speaking.
00:43:52.080 I'm speaking.
00:43:53.180 If you don't mind
00:43:54.360 letting me finish,
00:43:55.760 we can then have
00:43:56.360 a conversation, okay?
00:43:57.740 Please.
00:43:58.200 Okay.
00:43:58.900 I'm trying to answer you now.
00:44:00.180 American people
00:44:00.680 deserve a straight answer.
00:44:01.820 I will not sit here
00:44:02.700 and be lectured
00:44:03.280 by the Vice President.
00:44:04.500 I'm speaking.
00:44:05.500 Yeah, I'm about to.
00:44:06.860 I will not be lectured
00:44:08.140 by the Vice President.
00:44:10.020 I mean,
00:44:10.700 that's her dream scenario, right?
00:44:13.060 Do that to Donald Trump
00:44:14.500 all night.
00:44:15.400 She's going to try.
00:44:17.120 With the mics off,
00:44:18.140 it's going to be harder,
00:44:19.040 but she's still going to say it.
00:44:20.360 It's going to be
00:44:20.880 an interesting debate.
00:44:21.800 It's going to be
00:44:22.280 very interesting to see
00:44:23.020 if we get a second one
00:44:23.840 out of it,
00:44:24.280 and it'll be interesting
00:44:24.900 to see how the media
00:44:25.540 spins it if it is a bad debate.
00:44:27.180 We're going to cover it all
00:44:28.100 for you.
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