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Deep Dive into Hunter Biden & the Weaponization of the Federal Government： Part 2 with Jim Jordan


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00:00:00.000 This is an iHeart Podcast.
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00:00:05.420 Welcome to Washington, D.C. Part 2 of our deep dive into the Biden crime family and the investigation.
00:00:12.780 Senator, as always, great to be with you here in D.C. with our special guest, Congressman Jim Jordan.
00:00:18.780 And I want to remind people, we did Part 1.
00:00:22.060 That came out on Wednesday morning with some very big breaking news in that.
00:00:25.820 If you missed it, go back and listen to it.
00:00:28.500 But it's an important show.
00:00:30.600 Well, Wednesday's show and today's show are designed to really be a resource.
00:00:34.620 If you're wondering, all right, what's going on with all of this scandal?
00:00:37.860 And listen, it's hard.
00:00:38.900 You're busy.
00:00:39.600 You're working.
00:00:40.340 You turn on the TV.
00:00:41.700 You hear a sound bite here or there.
00:00:44.140 But you may not understand what all is going on.
00:00:47.240 And the great thing about a podcast, I have to admit, having done this now for several years,
00:00:51.340 what I like about the format is we can have an actual conversation.
00:00:55.340 You're not rushed.
00:00:56.040 And get into real details.
00:00:59.120 And so this is part two.
00:01:01.800 And part two, we're going to start with, look, one of the things you're chairman in the House,
00:01:07.760 of the House Judiciary Committee, but also the subcommittee on the weaponization of the federal government.
00:01:12.580 And let's start with, you know, as you know, the last book I wrote was Justice Corrupted,
00:01:18.640 how the left has weaponized our legal system.
00:01:23.040 And you're chairing a subcommittee focused on that.
00:01:28.100 Tell us, what is the focus of the subcommittee and what does it mean weaponizing the federal government?
00:01:34.100 The agencies have been turned on the American people, the people they're supposed to serve.
00:01:38.480 So instead of serving the taxpayer, the people who pay their salaries, who pay for our government,
00:01:42.660 I think it's been turned against Americans for political reasons.
00:01:47.980 And I would actually go back to remember about a year ago,
00:01:50.900 I guess it's a little less than a year ago,
00:01:52.360 when Joe Biden stood in front of Independence Hall and called half the country fascist.
00:01:56.340 Yeah.
00:01:56.480 Remember he was bathed in red light.
00:01:58.200 He looked like Emperor Palpatine from Star Wars.
00:02:00.540 It was kind of crazy, kind of creepy.
00:02:04.100 I agree with everything you said except for the word kind of.
00:02:06.740 Yeah.
00:02:07.440 It was bad.
00:02:09.280 And so now you think about, we feel like some of these agencies are focused just with that mindset.
00:02:15.060 I'll give you a great example.
00:02:16.560 This happened in the field office, the Richmond field office of the FBI.
00:02:21.660 They put together this memorandum.
00:02:23.860 They call it in the FBI, they call it a domain perspective.
00:02:26.880 And we've actually seen it, the one that's, you know, very few redactions.
00:02:31.120 The first one that came out with a lot of redactions, but one with very few redactions.
00:02:35.380 And this was the radical traditional Catholic memorandum.
00:02:40.240 And you read through this.
00:02:41.700 They were talking about developing sources inside the parish, informants inside the church.
00:02:47.240 I mean, the idea, someone, and this was signed off on by five people at the Richmond field office, including the chief division counsel.
00:02:57.360 So some lawyer who went to law school and probably should have had a course on the Constitution if they didn't.
00:03:03.960 Someone taught them about the First Amendment, the Bill of Rights, and yet they signed off on this.
00:03:07.640 And they're talking about sending spies into Catholic churches.
00:03:10.800 And trying to recruit priests to be informants for the FBI.
00:03:16.620 On their flock.
00:03:17.480 Yeah, right, right.
00:03:18.600 Actually, think about, you know, confessional.
00:03:21.620 Like, what's going on?
00:03:22.260 This is crazy.
00:03:23.600 So, now, thank goodness.
00:03:24.960 All right, on this point, and I want to keep on the deep dive, but I do have to tell you one of my favorite stories.
00:03:29.760 Okay.
00:03:29.860 So, Justice Antonin Scalia, one of the greatest justices ever to serve on the court.
00:03:35.660 When Justice Scalia is nominated to the D.C. Circuit, the FBI, anytime you get nominated to be a judge, the FBI does a background check.
00:03:45.380 And Scalia gets a call from his childhood priest.
00:03:49.980 And the priest says, Nino, FBI called, asking questions about you.
00:03:58.440 But don't you worry.
00:03:59.960 I didn't tell him nothing!
00:04:03.300 That's a true story.
00:04:04.620 Really.
00:04:05.160 That's a great priest.
00:04:05.920 That's awesome.
00:04:06.640 That's the answer you want your priest to give.
00:04:09.520 You don't switch after that.
00:04:11.460 You stick with him, ride or die to the very end.
00:04:14.680 But Scalia loved telling that story.
00:04:16.200 Yeah, that's a great story.
00:04:17.080 So, this memorandum, this domain perspective, talks about the sources inside and the parish inside the church.
00:04:25.680 But what troubled me is when you read through it, what they really were defining as a radical traditional Catholic, they had a footnote about the Dobbs decision.
00:04:35.140 They said that the extremists and radical traditional Catholics may find common ground.
00:04:39.940 I forget how the sentence exactly went, but it was something to the effect on abortion, on marriage.
00:04:45.460 Which, it was basically, if you're...
00:04:47.280 And the Latin Mass.
00:04:48.380 Yeah.
00:04:48.780 If you attended the Latin Mass.
00:04:51.020 If you're a pro-life, pro-family Catholic, you're radical.
00:04:54.800 And it was funny because when this sort of came out a couple months ago, I happened to be doing Sean Duffy's show because he's on Fox Business.
00:05:03.020 And Sean was asking me about it.
00:05:04.800 And I said, Sean, when you read through this and kind of read between the lines, it's like, I thought of you and Rachel's family because they got like 30 kids, you know, and they're pro-life, pro-family.
00:05:15.620 They're wonderful.
00:05:16.460 Great people.
00:05:17.060 Sean was a great member.
00:05:18.540 And it's like, they're defining them as radical.
00:05:21.440 That's like, that's how bad it was.
00:05:23.500 Traditional values are now radical values in the eyes of the government.
00:05:25.640 Yeah.
00:05:25.900 And the Catholic Church.
00:05:27.420 And actually, I would say more broadly that they define it as anyone who's serious about their faith.
00:05:32.420 That makes you inherently suspect.
00:05:34.920 And that is so contrary to the First Amendment.
00:05:36.580 Yep.
00:05:36.700 It's like, and, you know, the FBI pulled this back.
00:05:40.960 But would they have pulled it back but for a whistleblower who came and told us?
00:05:44.340 Like, I don't know.
00:05:45.280 I'd like to think they would.
00:05:46.220 Well, it's the same way that going after parents and categorizing parents as your, you are a domestic terrorist if you show up to a school board and you get angry at what they're doing with your kids.
00:05:55.140 Well, and Jim broke the story about how the FBI is currently using a threat tag.
00:06:00.560 So, look, we've discussed at great length how Merrick Garland, one of the first things he did was directed the FBI to go after and target parents who dare speak up at school boards.
00:06:11.880 And to treat them, this was in response to the National Association of School Boards that asked that parents be treated as domestic terrorists under the Patriot Act.
00:06:21.920 And within five or six days, Merrick Garland snaps to attention, issues the memorandum.
00:06:27.500 It becomes public.
00:06:28.460 National Association of School Board apologizes for it.
00:06:32.200 After the hearing.
00:06:33.100 But Merrick Garland doesn't back down at all.
00:06:35.340 Still in.
00:06:35.700 And then what you broke is they're still doing it.
00:06:38.800 That memorandum's still in place.
00:06:40.420 The memorandum from Richmond has been rescinded, thank goodness.
00:06:43.380 Go back to the school board thing.
00:06:44.900 It had been you and the center bringing this up.
00:06:47.180 September 29th, 2021, the School Board Association, the left-wing political group, puts out the memorandum, use the Patriot Act against moms and dads.
00:06:55.340 Five days later, October 4th, the Attorney General of the United States issues a memorandum doing exactly what the School Board Association asks.
00:07:02.320 And then two weeks later, on October 20th, October 20th, 16 days later, on October 20th.
00:07:10.460 Let me ask you something.
00:07:11.540 You're the chairman of the House Judiciary Committee.
00:07:13.920 Does the Biden DOJ respond to you in five days?
00:07:17.460 That's a great point.
00:07:19.380 No.
00:07:19.480 Because they don't respond to the Senate Judiciary Committee.
00:07:21.300 No, they don't.
00:07:23.040 But think about it.
00:07:23.700 On October 20th is when the threat tag and an email gets sent out to FBI agents all across the country, all the field offices.
00:07:30.260 So I always tell people, so from September 29th to October 20th, 22 days, to your point, when have you ever seen the federal government move that fast?
00:07:39.200 Yeah.
00:07:39.540 Never.
00:07:40.620 But when it came to going after the—
00:07:41.300 Well, they did find the leaker of the Dobbs decision, right?
00:07:43.920 Yes.
00:07:44.580 And record time, right?
00:07:46.240 Record time.
00:07:46.920 Yeah, right.
00:07:47.440 Yeah, right.
00:07:47.880 That's another issue, though.
00:07:49.480 But you talk about weaponization?
00:07:51.340 That is like turning—when you think that the Justice Department didn't prosecute any of these people who were protested at justices' homes, the attack on the court—
00:08:02.260 Yep.
00:08:02.760 —all designed, I think, to intimidate the court on that particular decision and set the stage for what they really want to do, which is pack the court.
00:08:09.920 Well, weaponization is—
00:08:11.300 You've talked about this and wrote about this.
00:08:13.420 Weaponization is twofold.
00:08:14.600 It is both using the machinery of government as a weapon to attack your enemies, but it's also declining to give the protection of law to people you disagree with.
00:08:27.300 Well said.
00:08:27.820 Well said.
00:08:28.920 And look, this is something the George Soros prosecutors understand.
00:08:32.260 We have DAs who come in, and they realize you can abolish the police by shutting the police down, or you can abolish the police by putting a DA in who won't prosecute violent criminals.
00:08:42.340 Either one does the same thing.
00:08:43.500 It won't prosecute the folks that the good police officers go out—all those good cops on the street who go out and arrest, won't prosecute them.
00:08:50.380 No, you're exactly right.
00:08:51.220 And Merrick Garland's doing the same thing.
00:08:52.960 It is a federal crime, unequivocal, on the statute books, that you cannot protest at a justice's home.
00:09:01.040 They've done so night after night after night, and DOJ has not prosecuted a single person.
00:09:05.980 They directed the marshals not to arrest them.
00:09:09.380 Yep.
00:09:10.260 Directly contrary to law.
00:09:12.320 And Merrick Garland, when asked—I've asked him at great length.
00:09:14.840 I saw that.
00:09:15.220 I saw it.
00:09:16.060 He won't—he doesn't like that law.
00:09:18.900 18 U.S.C. Section 1507.
00:09:20.740 And, you know, you can raise concerns about, okay, is that law got some First Amendment problems?
00:09:26.660 It's the law, and it was—and they were doing—
00:09:29.080 And by the way, people firebombing crisis pregnancy centers.
00:09:32.320 They don't prosecute that either.
00:09:33.840 They've got the resources to send people undercover into Catholic churches.
00:09:38.220 Remember that line?
00:09:38.800 Yeah, it's hard to find people at night when they commit crimes.
00:09:41.140 That's why they can't get them.
00:09:42.380 But it was hundreds of churches—
00:09:43.720 It's convenient most criminals commit their crimes during the day,
00:09:46.880 because it really—this DOJ can't be bothered to turn the lights on.
00:09:49.860 Hundreds of churches and crisis pregnancy centers have been attacked in the aftermath of the leak.
00:09:54.580 And as you pointed out earlier, Senator, we still don't know, you know, who the leaker was.
00:09:59.940 But we—I think we can logically figure out what the motive was.
00:10:04.040 Yeah.
00:10:04.160 The motive was to intimidate the court and get them to change that decision.
00:10:06.940 There's a lot of Americans that are going to, I know, think,
00:10:10.700 is there going to be any accountability for abuse of power?
00:10:13.100 And I want to go back to the investigation with Hunter Biden and the Biden family.
00:10:18.860 Let's talk about how many Bidens are involved.
00:10:22.320 And I understand that people say, well, you've got to make a living.
00:10:26.940 I've heard people say that.
00:10:28.040 You've got to make a living.
00:10:29.720 But the reality is, to make as much money they're having coming in—
00:10:33.840 and let's talk about where the money's coming from.
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00:11:39.920 Let's talk about these suspicious activity reports, because for people that don't know what that is,
00:11:45.780 banks can flag things.
00:11:47.540 They can flag things they think are suspicious.
00:11:49.760 Yep.
00:11:49.960 And there's a hell of a lot of them connected to the last name Biden.
00:11:55.420 Why are there so many first off?
00:11:57.420 And is it because so much of the money is coming in from places that are shady?
00:12:01.920 Or is it because they know who the money is coming from and they've already said this is a bad actor?
00:12:07.280 Well, I think it's probably all of the above.
00:12:08.680 We're trying to put all those pieces together, but it's Ukraine, it's China, it's Russia,
00:12:13.820 not exactly the countries that you jump to the top of the list that are reputable kind of places
00:12:20.640 where you're going to be doing business.
00:12:21.940 So I think, what was it, the mayor of Moscow's wife gave 100, I forget that one,
00:12:26.560 it was a ton of money, it was several million.
00:12:27.840 Yeah, a million plus bucks.
00:12:29.420 You just go on and on.
00:12:30.640 So there's a number of these places where it's coming from.
00:12:33.300 I think complexity, you know, 20-some LLCs that are set up that with the Biden family
00:12:40.600 and their partners, this Robinson Walker guy and these others,
00:12:45.200 when you've got that many LLCs, companies you're setting up,
00:12:48.240 I think complexity was the objective.
00:12:51.260 And it was designed to, it seems to me, to hide the money.
00:12:53.580 Well, let me ask you a law enforcement question.
00:12:56.560 When you have crooks, when you have drug cartels, when you have the mafia,
00:12:59.660 why do they create all sorts of shell corporations to move the money?
00:13:05.140 Yep.
00:13:05.580 No, I know, because it probably causes money laundering.
00:13:08.800 So we don't know if that's the same thing going on here,
00:13:10.840 but it all starts to look suspicious.
00:13:12.880 Again, I think we talked about this in our last one,
00:13:16.440 but, you know, there aren't just one or two suspicious activity reports.
00:13:20.500 There's 170-some.
00:13:22.360 And it's not just one or two LLCs.
00:13:24.160 It's not like one company, one entity they set up and receives money,
00:13:27.220 and they're doing real work, real business, real value, real service.
00:13:31.640 That's not the case.
00:13:32.480 There's 20-some of these LLCs,
00:13:34.780 and they're getting money from all these countries
00:13:36.660 that have got kind of shady concerns there,
00:13:38.800 and it's literally millions of dollars.
00:13:43.260 And, you know, it's an amazing thing.
00:13:46.740 Look, there are people in politics who have family members who are lobbyists,
00:13:52.000 who say, okay, you know, you've got a Democrat who's got a family member
00:13:56.040 who goes and works with a big labor union,
00:13:57.980 goes and works with a teacher's union.
00:13:59.620 That stuff is shady, but not generally illegal.
00:14:06.740 It really says something when the son of the vice president
00:14:12.340 decides his business model is not just to go get a bunch of Democrat clients
00:14:17.720 to hire him to influence dad,
00:14:20.700 but go to foreign nations,
00:14:22.980 communist China, Russia, and Ukraine.
00:14:27.560 I mean, that's quite the collection.
00:14:29.340 I mean, that's, you know,
00:14:30.840 you kind of wonder where, like, Libya and Iran and North Korea are.
00:14:35.400 Yeah.
00:14:35.420 I mean, it...
00:14:36.940 There's 170.
00:14:38.340 You may be in line.
00:14:39.560 Well, I have no evidence of that,
00:14:41.100 so I'm not suggesting that,
00:14:42.280 but it really is...
00:14:43.960 Well, remember when Ukraine was,
00:14:46.280 I think, on the list of corrupt countries,
00:14:48.220 was, like, maybe number one.
00:14:49.700 It was, like, right near the top.
00:14:50.920 Yeah.
00:14:51.440 So just that in and of itself,
00:14:52.920 and Russia is certainly a corrupt kind of place for business as well.
00:14:57.580 So, yeah, those are right near the top of the list,
00:15:00.400 and this is where Hunter Biden's getting a lot of money.
00:15:03.220 How much are you concerned about the fact that,
00:15:05.080 apparently, the money that was coming in from the Russians
00:15:06.860 is coming in from individuals that have still not been named
00:15:10.540 as those that are being sanctioned by our government?
00:15:14.160 A new round of sanctions came out a few weeks ago.
00:15:17.140 Not on that list.
00:15:18.940 Are the people that gave Hunter Biden, the Biden family,
00:15:22.720 millions of dollars, literally?
00:15:24.700 Yeah.
00:15:25.420 I mean, we'll have to see,
00:15:27.040 but, you know, I'm at the point now,
00:15:30.300 there's not a whole lot that surprised me.
00:15:31.780 One of the things I've learned over time is
00:15:34.040 you've been involved in a number of these investigations,
00:15:36.160 whether we go back, I think it was 10 years ago this week
00:15:39.060 when we first learned about Lois Lerner and the IRS
00:15:40.800 targeting, you know, conservatives,
00:15:42.520 when you were running for office.
00:15:46.120 So, one thing I always learn is
00:15:48.620 when you get in these investigations,
00:15:50.040 the one thing we always get wrong is
00:15:52.020 it's always worse than we thought.
00:15:54.340 And that may be that the Biden's...
00:15:56.160 Is this worse than you thought?
00:15:57.300 I mean, it may not be with Biden's, I don't know yet,
00:15:59.120 because we haven't completed the investigation,
00:16:00.540 but every other one, that's always been the case.
00:16:02.960 And remember, when Lois Lerner,
00:16:05.000 who was a senior official at the Department of Justice,
00:16:07.700 she was targeting conservatives,
00:16:09.000 she was targeting Tea Party groups,
00:16:11.000 she was targeting pro-Israel groups,
00:16:12.560 she was targeting pro-life groups,
00:16:14.240 she was targeting groups that included in their title
00:16:16.600 anything about the Constitution or the Bill of Rights.
00:16:18.860 That was suspect.
00:16:19.920 Patriot.
00:16:20.320 If you believed in the Bill of Rights...
00:16:23.680 Yeah, scary.
00:16:24.600 That that was...
00:16:25.860 Yeah.
00:16:26.680 And you remember when the news broke?
00:16:29.040 The news broke because the Department of Treasury
00:16:30.780 Inspector General...
00:16:31.940 Yep.
00:16:32.400 ...reported on it.
00:16:33.220 Sure did.
00:16:34.000 And Barack Obama went and did a press conference.
00:16:37.020 And he said, quote,
00:16:38.200 I am angry,
00:16:39.760 and the American people have a right to be angry.
00:16:42.200 Now, that was actually...
00:16:43.780 It's good.
00:16:44.360 The second half of it was right.
00:16:45.820 The first half of it was a lie.
00:16:47.620 And it was a lie because he wasn't angry.
00:16:49.320 He was angry, he got caught.
00:16:51.200 But if he was angry,
00:16:52.260 he wouldn't have done what he did after that,
00:16:53.960 which is stonewall and stonewall and stonewall.
00:16:56.540 And when Lois Lerner pleads the fifth
00:16:59.360 and refuses to testify
00:17:00.480 and is held in contempt of Congress,
00:17:02.960 you know what?
00:17:03.640 His Department of Justice didn't prosecute.
00:17:05.620 Right.
00:17:06.080 And I believe he said later on
00:17:08.580 that he didn't think anyone did anything wrong.
00:17:11.060 And it's like,
00:17:11.740 there's a pending investigation.
00:17:13.020 You can't have the head of the executive branch saying,
00:17:16.300 you know,
00:17:16.560 judging the outcome
00:17:17.500 and that there's nothing wrong here.
00:17:19.140 So, yeah, but he...
00:17:21.960 What she did was
00:17:22.880 just targeting conservative groups
00:17:24.660 applying for tax exempt status
00:17:26.120 and having this be on the lookout list
00:17:29.000 of people applying
00:17:30.620 for the reasons you stated so wrong.
00:17:33.600 Well, and that was the model
00:17:34.420 for what's happened under Biden.
00:17:36.100 And by the way,
00:17:36.940 in between Obama and Biden,
00:17:40.340 you had the Trump administration.
00:17:42.420 And amazingly enough,
00:17:43.680 the federal government was weaponized
00:17:45.180 against him,
00:17:46.400 the sitting president.
00:17:49.240 You know,
00:17:50.020 Ben asked a minute ago
00:17:51.000 about accountability.
00:17:51.960 What accountability
00:17:53.120 has there been
00:17:54.400 for the DOJ
00:17:56.120 and FBI officials
00:17:57.640 involved in Crossfire Hurricane?
00:17:59.220 I know.
00:18:00.080 I know.
00:18:00.520 It's...
00:18:01.120 Other than Klein-Smith
00:18:02.060 who falsified a document
00:18:03.720 in front of the FISA court,
00:18:04.740 no one's had anything.
00:18:05.800 And this is...
00:18:06.200 It's probably the question
00:18:06.960 I get more than any other.
00:18:08.280 I'm sure you get the same way
00:18:09.160 when you're out and about
00:18:09.680 talking with folks
00:18:10.280 around the country.
00:18:10.820 And by the way,
00:18:12.420 let's pause on Klein-Smith
00:18:14.000 because we've lived this
00:18:16.160 for a while,
00:18:16.840 but not everyone listening to this.
00:18:18.380 So Klein-Smith was
00:18:19.400 an assistant general counsel
00:18:21.480 at the FBI
00:18:23.240 who fraudulently created
00:18:26.200 a counterfeit document
00:18:27.400 and submitted it
00:18:28.500 to a federal court.
00:18:31.200 And in particular,
00:18:32.220 what the counterfeit document was
00:18:34.120 is they wanted to get
00:18:35.540 a wiretap on Carter Page.
00:18:37.880 It was one of the foreign policy advisors
00:18:40.880 advising the Trump campaign.
00:18:43.400 This is in 2016.
00:18:45.640 And the basis for this wiretap is
00:18:48.320 Carter Page was talking
00:18:49.820 to some shady Russians.
00:18:51.840 And so the FBI,
00:18:53.280 doing actually its job,
00:18:55.000 reached out and emailed the CIA
00:18:56.400 and said,
00:18:56.920 hey, is this guy a source?
00:18:59.560 He's an asset for you
00:19:01.180 because if you're talking
00:19:03.100 to shady Russians,
00:19:03.980 that's pretty suspicious.
00:19:05.640 But if you're doing it
00:19:06.660 on behalf of your country,
00:19:07.600 the United States of America,
00:19:08.980 thank you, it's not suspicious.
00:19:10.220 Yeah, it's not suspicious.
00:19:11.420 Yeah, like it's a good thing.
00:19:12.940 Is he our guy?
00:19:13.920 Is he one of us?
00:19:14.880 Is he a friendly?
00:19:16.020 And so Klein-Smith
00:19:17.000 emails the CIA,
00:19:18.740 says,
00:19:19.120 is he a source for you?
00:19:20.760 CIA emails back,
00:19:21.960 yes, he is.
00:19:23.040 He is a source.
00:19:24.160 And Klein-Smith takes that email.
00:19:25.940 I know.
00:19:26.720 And he fraudulently alters it
00:19:28.420 and he changes
00:19:29.280 is a source
00:19:30.660 to is not a source.
00:19:32.340 180 degrees.
00:19:33.140 So how many days
00:19:33.860 has he been in jail for this?
00:19:35.380 Zero.
00:19:35.600 Not a day.
00:19:36.640 That's not a day.
00:19:39.060 And that's the part where-
00:19:40.420 And that was submitted
00:19:40.620 to a federal court
00:19:41.460 and I guarantee
00:19:42.040 if any of us
00:19:42.920 created a fraudulent document
00:19:44.640 and submitted it
00:19:45.300 to a federal court,
00:19:46.720 you'd do real jail time.
00:19:47.660 And the thing that always
00:19:48.400 sticks out to me
00:19:48.880 is 180 degree change
00:19:51.080 in the meaning
00:19:51.540 is not.
00:19:53.420 It's just like
00:19:53.880 you can't change it more.
00:19:56.740 They did that.
00:19:57.600 I still go back
00:19:58.820 to that campaign.
00:19:59.480 I remember how
00:20:00.360 they said Donald Trump
00:20:01.740 was insane
00:20:02.400 because he said
00:20:02.920 they were spying
00:20:03.940 on my campaign.
00:20:05.840 And they said
00:20:06.220 no one was.
00:20:06.860 Obama said
00:20:07.540 no one was spying
00:20:08.340 on his campaign.
00:20:08.860 It's ludicrous.
00:20:10.380 They were.
00:20:10.860 It sounds like something
00:20:11.460 51 intelligence officials
00:20:12.720 would do.
00:20:13.140 Yeah, right?
00:20:13.740 Yeah, just get them
00:20:14.320 to sign a letter
00:20:14.820 and it's all good.
00:20:15.940 Well, you know, look.
00:20:17.500 Crossfire Hurricane,
00:20:18.520 part of the reason
00:20:19.160 it happened
00:20:19.640 is
00:20:21.800 nobody believed
00:20:25.420 Trump would be president
00:20:26.820 so they'd never been caught.
00:20:28.000 If Hillary had won
00:20:28.940 this would have all
00:20:31.480 faded in the darkness.
00:20:32.360 Remind you of Crossfire Hurricane
00:20:33.220 just so they understand
00:20:34.440 that exactly.
00:20:34.860 So Crossfire Hurricane
00:20:36.040 was the name
00:20:38.040 given to the effort
00:20:39.720 to target
00:20:40.680 the person who was then
00:20:42.740 the Republican nominee
00:20:43.560 to be president.
00:20:44.640 And it was the deep state
00:20:46.140 engaged in war
00:20:49.100 and it was the same
00:20:50.420 weaponization
00:20:51.160 that had begun
00:20:51.860 under Obama
00:20:52.640 and actually
00:20:53.940 Crossfire Hurricane
00:20:54.700 began under Obama
00:20:55.720 and then it
00:20:56.460 waged on
00:20:58.260 under Trump
00:21:00.960 and actually
00:21:01.560 July 5th
00:21:02.880 2017
00:21:05.160 there was a meeting
00:21:06.240 in the Oval Office
00:21:06.920 with Barack Obama
00:21:07.960 with Joe Biden
00:21:09.000 with Jim Comey
00:21:10.700 who was the head
00:21:11.160 of the FBI
00:21:11.780 with James Clapper
00:21:14.480 and they decided
00:21:16.300 we're going to keep
00:21:18.700 this going
00:21:19.240 and
00:21:21.060 we're going to
00:21:23.360 target the president
00:21:24.200 at that point
00:21:24.840 they knew Trump
00:21:25.340 was coming in
00:21:26.020 he was 15 days away
00:21:27.260 from being sworn in
00:21:28.280 and they said
00:21:28.680 keep it going
00:21:29.300 and they made a decision
00:21:30.480 and by the way
00:21:31.120 that's where Joe Biden
00:21:32.380 suggested
00:21:34.620 in that meeting
00:21:35.680 going after Michael Flynn
00:21:37.060 the incoming
00:21:37.540 national security advisor
00:21:38.720 under the Logan Act
00:21:40.960 which
00:21:42.240 the Logan Act
00:21:43.520 three times in history
00:21:45.200 has been enforced
00:21:46.020 so bad
00:21:47.220 it makes it a crime
00:21:49.020 essentially
00:21:50.680 for a private citizen
00:21:51.900 to engage in diplomacy
00:21:53.220 with foreign countries
00:21:55.000 and
00:21:55.840 John Kerry's done that a lot
00:21:58.040 daily
00:21:59.140 yeah
00:21:59.700 but it's also
00:22:01.320 when they decided
00:22:02.400 to go up to Trump Tower
00:22:03.780 it's president-elect Trump
00:22:05.160 January 5th
00:22:06.040 yes
00:22:06.220 of 2017
00:22:07.840 so he's president-elect
00:22:09.060 they go up there
00:22:09.700 and Comey briefs him
00:22:10.940 on the dossier
00:22:11.700 that they already knew
00:22:12.460 was false
00:22:13.020 and Comey briefs him
00:22:14.320 on it
00:22:14.540 and I'm convinced
00:22:15.200 the only reason
00:22:15.660 and that it'd been paid for
00:22:16.560 by the Hillary Clinton campaign
00:22:17.480 right
00:22:17.720 and the only reason
00:22:18.460 he briefs him on it
00:22:19.380 is so that they can leak it
00:22:20.860 yep
00:22:21.360 so that they can tell
00:22:22.420 so they can say
00:22:23.180 it was so important
00:22:24.480 Jim Comey went to New York
00:22:26.460 to brief president-elect Trump
00:22:27.880 on the dossier
00:22:28.760 that then leaks
00:22:29.940 they print the dossier
00:22:30.620 that's when it all got rolling
00:22:32.320 that led to
00:22:33.360 ultimately led to
00:22:34.480 the special counsel
00:22:35.320 after Trump fires Comey
00:22:36.980 and you get the special counsel
00:22:38.180 it's also interesting
00:22:38.960 you mentioned
00:22:39.380 Crossfire Hurricane
00:22:40.140 I always think this is funny
00:22:41.320 because remember
00:22:42.840 the Hillary Clinton email
00:22:43.780 that investigation
00:22:45.400 was called
00:22:46.480 the mid-year exam
00:22:47.800 yeah
00:22:48.140 you know very boring
00:22:48.960 and plain
00:22:49.600 but going into
00:22:51.180 President Trump
00:22:51.800 was like
00:22:52.280 crossfire hurting
00:22:53.800 like you can see him
00:22:54.440 pounding their chest
00:22:55.220 like we're gonna get
00:22:56.060 so like
00:22:56.800 even the names
00:22:58.020 they give these things
00:22:58.800 kind of indicate
00:22:59.620 the bias
00:23:00.280 that exists there
00:23:01.460 with folks in the government
00:23:03.320 Canadian women
00:23:05.120 are looking for more
00:23:06.180 more out of themselves
00:23:07.260 their businesses
00:23:08.100 their elected leaders
00:23:09.220 and the world around them
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00:25:03.740 congressman
00:25:04.640 you've seen a lot
00:25:05.640 what shocked you
00:25:06.860 the most
00:25:07.560 I think one of the
00:25:08.680 things that
00:25:08.980 and I've touched on
00:25:09.800 a little bit before
00:25:10.620 but Elvis Chan
00:25:12.220 has a sworn declaration
00:25:13.640 with when
00:25:14.440 Senator Schmidt
00:25:15.500 then former
00:25:16.640 Attorney General
00:25:17.160 Schmidt in Missouri
00:25:18.220 brought a case
00:25:18.760 against the big tech
00:25:19.880 companies
00:25:20.200 and this collusion
00:25:21.820 and this suppression
00:25:22.460 of information
00:25:23.100 and all
00:25:23.400 Elvis Chan
00:25:24.700 has a declaration
00:25:25.320 there
00:25:25.640 where he says
00:25:26.900 that
00:25:27.720 repeatedly
00:25:30.500 excuse me
00:25:31.580 I said that wrong
00:25:32.200 Elvis Chan
00:25:32.700 is the FBI agent
00:25:33.520 talking to
00:25:34.360 to Yoel Roth
00:25:35.580 at Twitter
00:25:36.200 and
00:25:37.280 Yoel Roth
00:25:38.660 says
00:25:39.060 in his sworn
00:25:39.840 declaration
00:25:40.280 that repeatedly
00:25:41.600 in the month
00:25:42.560 of October 2020
00:25:43.500 we had
00:25:45.060 agencies telling us
00:25:46.500 FBI and other
00:25:47.180 agencies telling us
00:25:48.160 to expect a
00:25:49.400 Hunter Biden
00:25:49.820 laptop
00:25:50.960 hack and leak
00:25:52.300 there's going to be
00:25:52.740 a hack and leak
00:25:54.220 operation
00:25:54.780 that will happen
00:25:55.980 in October of 2020
00:25:57.240 and it will involve
00:25:58.600 Hunter Biden
00:25:59.220 and we were
00:26:00.100 repeatedly told that
00:26:01.380 by various
00:26:02.100 government agencies
00:26:02.820 and the FBI
00:26:03.540 was in possession
00:26:04.540 of Hunter's laptop
00:26:05.320 they already had
00:26:05.760 the laptop
00:26:06.020 so they're being
00:26:06.920 repeatedly told
00:26:07.800 what's going to
00:26:08.960 happen
00:26:09.280 when it's going
00:26:10.260 to happen
00:26:10.660 who it's going
00:26:11.520 to involve
00:26:11.920 what's going
00:26:12.940 to happen
00:26:13.220 hack and leak
00:26:13.840 when it's going
00:26:14.640 to happen
00:26:14.920 October 2020
00:26:15.760 just weeks
00:26:16.440 before the most
00:26:16.960 important election
00:26:17.480 we have
00:26:17.860 and who it's
00:26:18.460 going to involve
00:26:18.900 Hunter Biden
00:26:19.580 and you step
00:26:20.360 back and you say
00:26:20.920 how in the freak
00:26:21.960 did they know
00:26:22.520 and of course
00:26:23.640 they knew
00:26:23.960 because what
00:26:24.560 Senator just said
00:26:25.220 they had the
00:26:25.540 laptop
00:26:25.660 so that's when
00:26:26.280 it's to me
00:26:26.800 like oh my
00:26:27.960 goodness
00:26:28.560 they had the
00:26:30.360 laptop
00:26:30.780 they expected
00:26:32.260 it to get
00:26:32.720 public
00:26:33.180 now we all
00:26:34.000 know there's
00:26:34.360 an October
00:26:34.780 surprise
00:26:35.220 we get one
00:26:35.600 every four
00:26:35.980 years
00:26:36.340 right
00:26:36.680 right
00:26:37.000 so that
00:26:37.580 doesn't
00:26:37.880 surprise us
00:26:38.460 but when
00:26:39.000 you can name
00:26:39.560 exactly what
00:26:40.320 the October
00:26:40.740 surprise is
00:26:41.280 going to be
00:26:42.100 that's like
00:26:43.860 I've said
00:26:44.440 when I first
00:26:45.060 were these guys
00:26:46.020 clairvoyant
00:26:46.720 how did they
00:26:47.500 know
00:26:47.740 how did they
00:26:48.080 they were
00:26:48.520 prophets
00:26:48.940 you know
00:26:49.240 they could
00:26:49.500 figure it
00:26:49.760 out
00:26:49.900 like no
00:26:50.500 they had
00:26:51.540 the laptop
00:26:51.980 they had the
00:26:52.540 laptop
00:26:53.260 so that's
00:26:54.560 when they
00:26:55.020 had no
00:26:55.600 interest
00:26:56.060 no interest
00:26:57.540 in verifying
00:26:58.340 its authenticity
00:26:59.120 at least
00:26:59.840 that we know
00:27:01.020 of they had
00:27:01.460 no interest
00:27:02.180 in investigating
00:27:03.620 the evidence
00:27:04.280 of corruption
00:27:04.820 within the
00:27:05.400 laptop
00:27:05.760 that they were
00:27:06.880 perfectly happy
00:27:07.780 to keep it
00:27:09.000 utterly dormant
00:27:10.060 that was 2019
00:27:10.920 December 2019
00:27:11.860 they got possession
00:27:12.760 of the laptop
00:27:13.400 we're sitting
00:27:14.660 here in 2023
00:27:15.360 and there still
00:27:16.840 hasn't been a
00:27:17.340 prosecution
00:27:17.720 brought
00:27:18.080 and finally
00:27:19.940 hunters admitted
00:27:20.560 it's his laptop
00:27:21.400 in terms of
00:27:22.280 trying to fight
00:27:22.780 against this
00:27:23.340 but not in
00:27:24.480 Arkansas
00:27:24.940 not in
00:27:26.300 Arkansas
00:27:26.820 he backpedaled
00:27:28.820 which is going
00:27:29.740 to I think
00:27:30.160 get him in a lot
00:27:30.840 of trouble
00:27:31.280 if you notice
00:27:32.540 that when he
00:27:32.900 was down there
00:27:33.520 his attorney
00:27:34.180 was like
00:27:34.400 we're not even
00:27:34.980 saying this is
00:27:35.640 real
00:27:35.780 it's like
00:27:36.000 well hold on
00:27:36.560 you said
00:27:36.860 it's somewhere
00:27:37.200 else it was
00:27:37.700 real
00:27:37.960 but no
00:27:39.680 it's not real
00:27:40.460 because I don't
00:27:40.840 want to see
00:27:41.200 where my money
00:27:41.700 is because I
00:27:42.140 don't want to
00:27:42.380 have to pay
00:27:42.600 for this kid
00:27:43.140 so the
00:27:43.960 short answer
00:27:44.580 is we don't
00:27:45.180 know what
00:27:45.620 the FBI
00:27:46.020 did with the
00:27:46.500 laptop
00:27:46.740 we don't
00:27:47.120 know if
00:27:47.380 they validated
00:27:47.900 we don't
00:27:48.240 know if
00:27:48.360 they looked
00:27:48.680 at it
00:27:48.920 we don't
00:27:49.340 know if
00:27:49.520 we did
00:27:49.780 they confirmed
00:27:50.460 it
00:27:50.580 we don't
00:27:51.980 know
00:27:52.180 they haven't
00:27:52.720 prosecuted
00:27:53.180 anyone
00:27:53.480 right
00:27:54.020 but we do
00:27:54.960 know they
00:27:55.620 were telling
00:27:56.480 big tech
00:27:57.860 to be on the
00:27:59.000 lookout for
00:27:59.740 those specific
00:28:00.680 things
00:28:01.200 which suggest
00:28:02.640 they probably
00:28:04.860 did know
00:28:05.420 or they probably
00:28:06.140 did some of
00:28:06.660 us
00:28:06.780 maybe they
00:28:07.380 didn't
00:28:07.740 but they
00:28:08.460 were sure
00:28:08.880 predicting it
00:28:09.480 is there any
00:28:09.840 scenario that you guys
00:28:10.020 either of you
00:28:10.460 and I'm asking
00:28:10.920 this because this
00:28:11.400 is the fun part
00:28:11.940 about doing the
00:28:12.320 podcast
00:28:12.660 is there any
00:28:13.860 scenario in your
00:28:14.520 mind
00:28:14.880 you've been in
00:28:15.960 Washington a long
00:28:16.520 time
00:28:16.780 you worked over
00:28:17.460 at the Supreme
00:28:17.920 Court
00:28:18.240 you've had a
00:28:19.380 career
00:28:19.780 law enforcement
00:28:20.960 you know
00:28:21.200 where they
00:28:21.660 if you get a
00:28:22.320 laptop of the
00:28:22.940 FBI that you
00:28:23.560 think is a
00:28:24.200 former vice
00:28:25.020 president's
00:28:25.860 sons
00:28:26.320 that has damning
00:28:27.760 information on it
00:28:28.420 is there any
00:28:28.900 chance you just
00:28:29.600 shelve it
00:28:30.140 or wouldn't you
00:28:31.100 just out of pure
00:28:31.760 curiosity be like
00:28:32.800 we need to go
00:28:33.880 through this to
00:28:34.580 know what's out
00:28:35.200 there
00:28:35.520 if you're real
00:28:37.300 law enforcement
00:28:37.900 of course you
00:28:38.380 would
00:28:38.520 yeah but even
00:28:39.660 if you're just
00:28:40.220 a TMZ
00:28:40.860 type person
00:28:41.500 if you're a
00:28:42.160 hardcore
00:28:42.600 partisan
00:28:43.380 who hates
00:28:45.640 Donald Trump
00:28:46.640 this is the
00:28:50.460 same entity
00:28:51.840 that not long
00:28:54.000 after decided
00:28:54.980 to go undercover
00:28:56.040 targeting the
00:28:57.340 Republican nominee
00:28:58.260 for president
00:28:58.940 that's an
00:28:59.880 extraordinary
00:29:00.780 situation
00:29:01.520 look I'm an
00:29:02.320 alumnus of the
00:29:02.860 Department of
00:29:03.300 Justice
00:29:03.560 I was an
00:29:04.040 associate deputy
00:29:04.860 attorney general
00:29:06.060 under George W
00:29:07.180 Bush
00:29:07.540 look you
00:29:08.960 might have a
00:29:09.700 situation where
00:29:10.540 the evidence was
00:29:11.180 so compelling
00:29:11.760 you had to
00:29:12.280 investigate the
00:29:13.020 nominee for the
00:29:13.540 other party
00:29:13.980 but that threshold
00:29:15.220 should be really
00:29:15.980 damn high
00:29:16.500 now
00:29:16.840 not so high
00:29:19.760 that you get a
00:29:20.520 laptop full of
00:29:21.260 incriminating
00:29:21.740 information that
00:29:22.580 he is getting
00:29:24.400 the big guy is
00:29:25.280 getting 10% from
00:29:26.380 communist China
00:29:27.120 all right now
00:29:27.660 you're starting to
00:29:28.200 hit a threshold
00:29:28.760 of we got to
00:29:30.100 figure out if
00:29:30.600 this is real
00:29:31.160 but
00:29:33.060 the FBI and
00:29:37.200 DOJ what I
00:29:38.620 think happened
00:29:39.440 is hardcore
00:29:41.820 partisans
00:29:42.880 burrowed into
00:29:44.260 senior career
00:29:46.020 positions
00:29:46.700 and were
00:29:48.200 comfortable
00:29:48.980 treating
00:29:49.820 the machinery
00:29:51.460 of law
00:29:52.060 enforcement
00:29:52.600 as a tool
00:29:53.920 to protect
00:29:55.240 their friends
00:29:55.760 and attack
00:29:56.200 their enemies
00:29:56.660 do you agree
00:29:57.260 with that
00:29:57.640 well I also
00:29:58.360 think it's
00:29:58.860 it's it's
00:29:59.380 one thing
00:29:59.940 if they get
00:30:00.580 that laptop
00:30:02.080 in October
00:30:04.120 2020
00:30:04.620 yeah
00:30:05.180 that'd be a
00:30:05.740 different story
00:30:06.160 because there's
00:30:06.680 a you know
00:30:07.280 you work there
00:30:08.140 so you know
00:30:08.480 there's a window
00:30:09.020 of time where
00:30:09.560 you're sort of
00:30:10.020 like okay
00:30:10.840 we're getting
00:30:11.140 in that that
00:30:11.820 really critical
00:30:12.500 political time
00:30:13.260 when America's
00:30:14.160 deciding who's
00:30:14.680 there do we
00:30:15.620 really want to
00:30:16.120 impact the
00:30:16.540 election with
00:30:17.060 information we
00:30:17.740 bring out
00:30:18.440 so that's one
00:30:19.380 thing but this
00:30:20.120 was 10 months
00:30:20.640 before that
00:30:21.100 and by the
00:30:21.780 way
00:30:21.980 right before
00:30:23.660 the 2020
00:30:24.160 election had
00:30:25.160 or the
00:30:26.760 had information
00:30:28.080 about Joe
00:30:28.660 Biden rather
00:30:29.160 the 2022
00:30:29.560 election had
00:30:30.220 information about
00:30:30.900 Joe Biden's
00:30:31.540 classified documents
00:30:32.800 and they did
00:30:33.360 nothing with
00:30:33.860 it they didn't
00:30:34.280 leak it they
00:30:34.800 kept it secret
00:30:35.640 but 91 days
00:30:36.740 before that
00:30:37.320 election they
00:30:38.320 did raid
00:30:38.840 president Trump's
00:30:39.480 home so outside
00:30:40.640 that 90 day
00:30:41.400 window I guess
00:30:42.400 91 days you
00:30:43.620 bring you're
00:30:43.940 good to go
00:30:44.340 home but you
00:30:45.320 find something
00:30:45.920 within a month
00:30:47.140 or so I guess
00:30:47.700 it was a couple
00:30:48.100 weeks before the
00:30:48.820 election a week
00:30:49.860 week before the
00:30:50.880 election they
00:30:52.400 don't do anything
00:30:53.000 so but but
00:30:54.380 with the with
00:30:54.880 the laptop it's
00:30:56.280 10 months it's
00:30:57.640 10 months before
00:30:58.200 the election I
00:30:59.880 think you probably
00:31:00.320 check it out but
00:31:00.900 who knows what
00:31:01.440 they did
00:31:01.780 so one of
00:31:03.960 the things that
00:31:04.640 that I think is
00:31:05.260 striking and you
00:31:05.860 mentioned it
00:31:06.360 before is the
00:31:07.960 interrelation
00:31:10.160 between the
00:31:12.520 federal government
00:31:13.160 and big tech
00:31:15.160 and the media
00:31:15.680 because they're
00:31:17.280 all intertwined
00:31:18.420 in a way that
00:31:19.140 frankly is is
00:31:20.180 is not natural
00:31:21.140 the media ought
00:31:23.260 to be a
00:31:25.640 watchdog that
00:31:26.440 they ought to
00:31:27.000 be you know
00:31:27.400 the phrase that
00:31:28.220 that back when
00:31:29.500 we had journalists
00:31:30.360 that they used to
00:31:31.080 be proud of is
00:31:32.220 is you know
00:31:34.360 shining a light
00:31:36.040 and and and
00:31:37.540 holding those in
00:31:40.540 power accountable
00:31:41.340 yeah but what is
00:31:44.540 really stunning that
00:31:45.780 we've seen through
00:31:46.600 your investigation
00:31:47.400 that we've seen
00:31:48.180 through the
00:31:48.500 twitter files is
00:31:51.060 how willing big
00:31:52.180 tech was to be
00:31:54.500 the foot soldiers
00:31:55.320 for the government
00:31:56.040 and how willing the
00:31:57.800 media was
00:31:58.580 weekly meetings
00:31:59.520 to to be the
00:32:01.120 foot soldiers for
00:32:01.980 the government
00:32:02.300 you look at the
00:32:02.840 hunter biden not
00:32:03.580 only did big tech
00:32:04.620 suppress the story
00:32:06.420 but they punished
00:32:07.180 the media and
00:32:08.460 de-platformed the
00:32:09.340 new york post so
00:32:10.360 so so it was one
00:32:11.500 after the other
00:32:12.140 after the other
00:32:12.680 the visibility
00:32:14.200 filtered anyone who
00:32:15.360 was trying to to
00:32:16.320 talk about the
00:32:17.420 story share the
00:32:18.020 story link to the
00:32:18.720 story they did
00:32:19.660 the visibility
00:32:20.420 filtering is the
00:32:21.220 fancy word big
00:32:21.860 tech uses
00:32:22.360 now is that a
00:32:24.180 normal thing for
00:32:27.440 big tech to be
00:32:28.900 acting at the
00:32:30.700 behest of the
00:32:31.320 of the federal
00:32:32.000 government silencing
00:32:32.880 people the federal
00:32:33.620 government doesn't
00:32:34.080 like yeah it's
00:32:34.940 censor uh what
00:32:35.780 what jonathan
00:32:36.660 turley uh
00:32:37.820 censorship by
00:32:38.400 surrogate is what
00:32:39.600 um professor turley
00:32:40.760 called it so there's
00:32:42.140 a template now and
00:32:42.920 it's scary because i
00:32:44.380 actually think this is
00:32:44.960 the biggest threat we
00:32:45.600 face we can recover
00:32:46.560 from the crazy border
00:32:47.700 policies the crazy
00:32:48.540 tax policies spending
00:32:49.700 policies crime policies
00:32:50.940 energy policy we can
00:32:52.180 recover from all
00:32:52.680 that but if they
00:32:53.660 if they destroy the
00:32:55.260 first amendment you
00:32:56.260 no longer have this
00:32:57.180 this amazing thing we
00:32:59.000 call america the
00:32:59.560 greatest country ever
00:33:00.380 so that's that's what
00:33:02.160 can and the template
00:33:02.840 is always you will
00:33:04.440 get it the left will
00:33:05.100 tell a lie the big
00:33:07.160 media will report the
00:33:08.200 lie big tech will
00:33:10.060 amplify the lie and
00:33:12.100 then if you try to
00:33:12.720 tell the truth they
00:33:13.620 call you a racist
00:33:14.280 they call you names
00:33:15.320 they try to cancel
00:33:15.940 you and it's like
00:33:16.900 what what that's
00:33:18.940 that's now what what's
00:33:20.000 happened to our
00:33:21.560 country and to
00:33:22.380 debate and to the
00:33:23.100 first amendment so
00:33:24.400 yeah it's it's it's
00:33:26.000 not supposed to work
00:33:26.600 that way and it's it's
00:33:27.360 why i really think what
00:33:28.640 we're trying to do
00:33:29.720 relative to the first
00:33:30.800 amendment protect it
00:33:31.800 highlight where it's
00:33:32.940 been abused um is so
00:33:35.580 important and and and
00:33:37.500 look at getting the
00:33:38.540 facts out there doing the
00:33:39.440 oversight to get the
00:33:40.020 facts out there then
00:33:41.520 looking at legislative
00:33:42.540 remedies what what's
00:33:43.560 legislation that we
00:33:44.280 could pass that would
00:33:45.040 actually help with the
00:33:45.900 situation and then
00:33:47.580 finally do we have to
00:33:49.220 look at the
00:33:49.520 appropriations process
00:33:50.560 and say some of
00:33:51.320 these agencies shouldn't
00:33:52.060 be getting the money
00:33:52.600 they're getting at least
00:33:53.680 not in the same way
00:33:54.400 they're getting it now
00:33:55.120 so talk to us about
00:33:56.300 fbi whistleblowers and
00:33:57.720 and you've had a lot of
00:33:59.020 fbi whistleblowers come to
00:34:00.720 your your committee and
00:34:02.760 by the way i'll say if
00:34:03.900 we've got fbi agents fbi
00:34:05.900 employees doj employees
00:34:08.220 who want to blow the
00:34:09.660 whistle come to jim come
00:34:11.720 to my office come you
00:34:13.760 will have the protections of
00:34:16.100 law afforded to
00:34:17.160 whistleblowers and it's
00:34:18.620 an important part of
00:34:19.380 constitutional
00:34:20.040 accountability but but
00:34:21.160 talk to us about what
00:34:22.840 you've seen from
00:34:23.720 whistleblowers and what
00:34:24.900 we can expect in the
00:34:25.940 week weeks and months
00:34:26.800 ahead we plan a hearing
00:34:28.180 next week uh that's
00:34:29.580 that's we haven't got
00:34:30.380 it officially scheduled
00:34:31.040 yet but that's what
00:34:31.500 we're looking to do we
00:34:32.120 think we're going to
00:34:32.440 have four of the
00:34:32.960 whistleblowers come
00:34:33.640 testify we've had a
00:34:35.180 couple dozen who've
00:34:36.120 talked to us uh we've
00:34:37.820 interviewed half a
00:34:38.720 dozen um and as i
00:34:41.260 mentioned i think in in
00:34:42.200 the last uh last episode
00:34:44.820 was a part one i guess
00:34:46.320 you call um many of
00:34:48.660 them been retaliated
00:34:49.340 against and it's really
00:34:50.440 sad because what does
00:34:51.480 that look like so
00:34:52.500 they take that picture
00:34:53.620 take their security
00:34:54.420 clearance you can you do
00:34:55.440 your job without that
00:34:56.400 you can't and then and
00:34:57.800 then uh without your
00:34:59.100 security clearance you're
00:35:00.080 you're pretty much can't
00:35:01.520 and some of them just
00:35:02.540 been forced to leave we
00:35:04.280 had one who was is
00:35:05.340 trying to trying to get
00:35:06.420 uh to uh to to get his
00:35:09.660 uh firearms training
00:35:10.820 records because he needs
00:35:11.860 that for another job and
00:35:13.380 they slow walked him on
00:35:14.860 that and so it's just
00:35:15.680 like it's just time and
00:35:16.980 issue after issue that
00:35:18.520 that we see with the
00:35:19.460 these these guys um in
00:35:21.920 the fbi you can't do
00:35:23.240 your job without your
00:35:24.280 security clearance you
00:35:25.060 gotta have that a lot of
00:35:25.980 people outside of
00:35:26.640 washington may not
00:35:27.200 realize that that's like
00:35:28.660 taking your driver's
00:35:29.620 license away from you
00:35:30.460 and you're a big rig
00:35:31.200 driver you can't make a
00:35:32.460 living yep yep it's
00:35:33.720 really really tough and
00:35:35.000 so uh and it's vindictive
00:35:37.620 too yeah it's trying to
00:35:39.440 crush you financially and
00:35:40.760 ruin your life it's it's
00:35:42.340 how dare you talk to
00:35:45.140 congress about what
00:35:45.920 we're doing yeah and
00:35:48.460 it's also illegal yeah
00:35:50.000 no it is you can't
00:35:51.320 retaliate against
00:35:52.020 whistleblowers it's
00:35:52.640 very clear so um and
00:35:54.520 like i said one of one
00:35:55.600 of these whistleblowers
00:35:56.300 is one who talked to
00:35:57.020 us about the the the
00:35:58.460 school board issue and
00:35:59.440 what they're what they
00:36:00.080 were trying to do to
00:36:00.660 parents uh giving us
00:36:02.360 the name of the the uh
00:36:03.960 the the education ed
00:36:06.020 officials the threat tag
00:36:07.080 label that was put on
00:36:07.920 the 20-something parents
00:36:08.860 but we put our report on
00:36:10.200 this none of these
00:36:12.020 parents were charged
00:36:12.580 with anything only one
00:36:13.880 went to a full
00:36:14.420 investigation and no
00:36:15.960 one's been charged with
00:36:16.660 anything many of these
00:36:17.900 places the the the u.s
00:36:19.540 attorney get this
00:36:20.160 memorandum they they do
00:36:21.220 a little thing and they
00:36:21.780 like this is baloney this
00:36:23.060 is ridiculous why are we
00:36:24.160 doing this it was all
00:36:25.440 done for politics because
00:36:26.740 they thought it was going
00:36:27.600 to help uh terry mccauliffe
00:36:29.240 be the next governor of
00:36:30.080 virginia and it turned
00:36:31.240 out it backfired on them
00:36:32.180 and helped glenn
00:36:32.680 youngkin win yeah because
00:36:34.580 you start telling moms and
00:36:35.660 dads we think remember
00:36:36.740 glenn youngkin or excuse
00:36:37.660 me when terry mccauliffe
00:36:38.360 said we don't think
00:36:39.160 parents should be telling
00:36:39.780 schools what to teach
00:36:40.560 yeah and a bunch of
00:36:41.420 moms said i don't i think
00:36:43.220 we should yeah by the
00:36:44.260 way i know my kid's name
00:36:45.200 you don't know the kid's
00:36:45.940 name i think i should be
00:36:46.740 involved sure so that
00:36:48.240 issue um so this is when
00:36:50.100 the whistleblowers came
00:36:50.740 to on the catholic memo
00:36:51.900 that's one of them whistleblower
00:36:53.680 came forward um so i'll
00:36:55.740 tell you there was another
00:36:56.480 fbi memo which we've
00:36:57.840 talked about the senate
00:36:58.520 judiciary committee where
00:37:00.180 they identified signs of
00:37:01.720 extremism and they had
00:37:02.980 all sorts of things
00:37:03.740 including the gatson flag
00:37:05.100 oh yeah from the
00:37:05.840 revolutionary wartime
00:37:06.900 that's right but but
00:37:08.040 they also also had the
00:37:10.840 come and take it flag from
00:37:11.940 texas which which uh i
00:37:15.040 well your boots are
00:37:15.800 terrorist boots because
00:37:16.620 they have that flag so i
00:37:18.740 wear those boots just
00:37:20.020 about every day in the
00:37:20.960 senate that that has the
00:37:22.140 come and take it flag on
00:37:23.120 the back and and as you
00:37:24.780 know i pulled the boot
00:37:25.660 off and slammed it on the
00:37:26.780 on the bench and said look
00:37:27.940 let me self-report right
00:37:29.040 now i'm wearing two of
00:37:30.600 these symbols you might want
00:37:32.400 oxes off right now just
00:37:33.920 say you're not touching
00:37:35.480 my boots stay away from
00:37:36.620 my damn boots i just got
00:37:39.320 them for charity so i
00:37:40.360 haven't had them for six
00:37:41.480 months i just had them
00:37:42.160 resold so they're lucasie
00:37:43.680 they're beautiful they're
00:37:44.940 even better now lucasie
00:37:46.300 factory in el paso i had
00:37:48.120 worn holes in them so i
00:37:49.860 had to send them to the
00:37:50.420 factory it takes like five
00:37:51.360 months to resole them they
00:37:52.320 come back as brand new
00:37:53.100 boots that's cool they do
00:37:54.320 a really nice job that's
00:37:55.720 awesome i want to ask you
00:37:56.900 one last question and that
00:37:59.140 deals with the issue i think
00:38:01.200 of there's fatigue with
00:38:03.880 a lot of americans now
00:38:04.920 they hear you're doing
00:38:06.140 investigations they
00:38:07.760 listen to part one and if
00:38:09.240 you missed it go back and
00:38:10.160 listen to it yeah they
00:38:11.480 listen to part two yeah
00:38:13.080 and they go i'm mad as
00:38:14.580 hell i'm frustrated with
00:38:16.440 my government what does
00:38:18.240 success look like and i'm
00:38:19.920 talking about from
00:38:20.340 accountability standpoint
00:38:21.340 from your investigations
00:38:22.900 because they don't feel
00:38:24.600 like there's accountability
00:38:25.540 they feel like the deck is
00:38:27.720 stacked against us now they
00:38:29.240 feel like we're always
00:38:30.360 losing and i say this
00:38:31.700 because i i have
00:38:32.440 listeners i talk to
00:38:33.200 every day they are sick
00:38:34.920 and tired of feeling like
00:38:36.360 there's two systems of
00:38:37.480 justice yeah and that
00:38:38.680 there is two there's a
00:38:39.780 double standard and they
00:38:41.280 feel like we never win and
00:38:43.000 and their definition of
00:38:43.820 winning i want to be clear
00:38:44.680 is it is something they
00:38:46.260 they almost step over
00:38:47.760 themselves over and over
00:38:48.920 again trying to explain
00:38:49.780 this to me they say ben i
00:38:50.960 want you to understand i'm
00:38:52.020 not wanting to put people in
00:38:53.380 jail because they're on the
00:38:54.160 other side of the aisle i
00:38:55.200 just want there to be
00:38:56.220 accountability for people
00:38:57.380 when you do break laws yeah
00:38:58.900 and when they see the
00:38:59.860 biden crime family they
00:39:00.960 see what's going on they
00:39:02.200 see what's happening the
00:39:03.220 fbi and the doj and this
00:39:04.900 letter they just want to
00:39:06.480 know they live in a world
00:39:07.480 where there is laws that
00:39:09.600 matter yeah there is right
00:39:12.060 and wrong and what does
00:39:15.420 success look like for you
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00:40:22.040 it's fatiguing yeah no it
00:40:24.880 is uh step one stopping any
00:40:27.520 bad behaviors getting the
00:40:28.460 facts on the table we're
00:40:29.340 committed to doing that as
00:40:30.220 part of our constitutional
00:40:31.000 duty when we when we do
00:40:32.200 oversight success in the end
00:40:33.940 is if we can if we can do it
00:40:36.500 in a way that protects the
00:40:37.520 first we're going to pass
00:40:38.320 some legislation out of the
00:40:39.260 house be tough to get to
00:40:40.240 the senate uh with the
00:40:41.660 with the democrats in
00:40:42.480 control uh we're going to
00:40:43.940 look in the appropriations
00:40:44.820 process those are all things
00:40:45.900 we got to do but in the end
00:40:47.420 if we can if we can get
00:40:48.560 respect back in this country
00:40:49.820 for the first amendment and
00:40:51.340 stop the censorship that's
00:40:52.720 going on i tell folks i was
00:40:54.440 talking earlier today to a
00:40:55.440 group you think about the
00:40:58.200 last couple years every
00:40:59.300 right we enjoy under the
00:41:00.500 first amendment has been
00:41:01.360 assaulted yep right to
00:41:02.740 practice your faith right to
00:41:03.660 assemble petition to
00:41:04.480 government press speech
00:41:05.420 everyone's been assaulted
00:41:06.420 there's there were places
00:41:07.740 during covid where democrat
00:41:09.400 governors and democrat
00:41:10.560 mayors wouldn't let people
00:41:12.100 americans go to church on
00:41:13.320 sunday i spoke to now you
00:41:15.080 could go to an antifa riot
00:41:16.140 or black lives matter right
00:41:17.500 yeah bash windows in every
00:41:19.400 major urban area around this
00:41:20.360 country um with your right
00:41:22.460 to assemble i spoke to the
00:41:23.800 new mexico i think i've
00:41:25.040 told you this center the
00:41:26.020 new mexico republican party
00:41:27.480 in amarillo texas because
00:41:30.340 they had to go to texas to
00:41:31.800 get the freedom to us so
00:41:32.820 there's two years ago the
00:41:34.100 freedom to assemble because
00:41:35.080 a crazy democrat governor
00:41:36.100 wouldn't let them assemble
00:41:36.840 in their own state and you
00:41:38.140 just go right to but the
00:41:39.060 most important liberty we
00:41:40.200 have they should have
00:41:40.860 named it an antifa route
00:41:42.140 and they could have had it
00:41:43.400 the the most important right
00:41:45.340 we have i've said that
00:41:46.680 every church service should
00:41:47.600 have just called themselves a
00:41:48.840 protest against the devil
00:41:49.800 yeah there we go
00:41:50.920 um but your right to speak
00:41:53.360 is the most important
00:41:54.100 you can't talk you can't
00:41:55.440 practice your faith you can't
00:41:56.320 share your faith you don't
00:41:57.020 have the freedom of press
00:41:57.800 freedom to petition freedom
00:41:58.860 to assemble you just don't
00:41:59.680 have it and that's what
00:42:01.140 they're coming after and
00:42:01.860 that's what we got to
00:42:02.400 defend and if we can
00:42:03.060 protect that that'll be a
00:42:04.540 good well and and tell
00:42:05.620 folks about your
00:42:06.660 investigation into the
00:42:09.080 corrupt prosecution of
00:42:11.200 alvin bragg targeting
00:42:12.520 donald trump because when
00:42:13.540 you talk about weaponization
00:42:15.660 we've talked at length in this
00:42:17.060 podcast yeah how utterly
00:42:18.940 frivolous this case is but
00:42:20.320 you've engaged very closely
00:42:21.820 on it so tell tell us what
00:42:22.940 you're doing on that alvin
00:42:24.100 bragg used federal tax
00:42:26.380 dollars to indict a former
00:42:28.160 president for no crime and
00:42:30.700 then when we wanted to talk
00:42:31.940 to one of the da's who worked
00:42:33.380 for him who had left over a
00:42:35.620 year ago and wrote a book
00:42:37.160 solely on this subject he took
00:42:39.540 us to court and the federal
00:42:41.100 judge just uh the court just
00:42:42.540 gave us a decision a couple
00:42:43.560 weeks ago it says you're wrong
00:42:45.180 mr bragg the judiciary committee
00:42:47.060 gets to have a deposition with
00:42:48.420 mr pomerantz he'll be coming
00:42:50.000 in this friday for and what
00:42:51.820 does he say in his book he
00:42:53.480 says oh he talks about it's
00:42:55.060 really interesting because you
00:42:57.560 talk about the old line uh show
00:42:58.940 me the man i'll find you the
00:42:59.780 crime they have like 20
00:43:02.780 different things they were
00:43:03.580 looking at president trump they
00:43:04.800 looked at the 40 wall street
00:43:06.160 property the seven springs
00:43:07.360 resort the jupiter golf course
00:43:09.440 his tax returns his apartment
00:43:11.520 that he that he is that he lived
00:43:13.420 in on the top of trump tower his
00:43:15.180 his financial statements his his
00:43:17.160 all his uh uh stuff with
00:43:18.560 mazars they looked at his kids
00:43:19.760 i mean you just go down the
00:43:20.720 list and then of course they
00:43:21.980 looked at the the stormy daniels
00:43:24.960 issue like i mean i'm
00:43:26.780 forgetting some it's crazy all
00:43:28.760 the things they looked at to try
00:43:30.440 to try to get this guy but we're
00:43:32.720 going to ask him about um we're
00:43:34.420 going to ask about things he said
00:43:35.180 in the book you know some of the
00:43:36.260 some of the things in in there um
00:43:38.720 you know in a lot of ways it's
00:43:40.260 amazing you do that kind of deep
00:43:42.060 dive almost anyone if you have a
00:43:44.860 team of prosecutors combing
00:43:46.100 through everything you've ever
00:43:46.940 filed with the irs my guess is
00:43:49.040 most people can find something
00:43:50.340 something and especially a
00:43:52.860 billionaire real estate
00:43:54.360 developer if you brought a
00:43:56.220 hundred billionaire real estate
00:43:57.440 developers went through all their
00:43:58.720 taxes i'd be surprised if you
00:44:01.060 could find one you couldn't indict
00:44:03.040 for something they looked at him
00:44:05.300 uh they were looking at when he
00:44:06.720 bought the post office here and
00:44:07.920 turn it into the the hotel here
00:44:10.320 in dc i mean just on it was it
00:44:14.040 was ridiculous so um yeah that
00:44:16.120 that is happening but um again i
00:44:18.840 think it just shows you know the
00:44:20.180 da in manhattan i think the da in
00:44:21.880 george is gonna have another crazy
00:44:23.560 case and by the way alvin bragg is
00:44:25.220 a soros da george soros spent over a
00:44:27.400 million bucks to get him elected this
00:44:28.940 is this goes back to weaponization
00:44:30.600 you want to talk about the power of
00:44:32.820 putting your guy in control of law
00:44:35.980 enforcement whether they're
00:44:38.120 targeting donald trump or targeting
00:44:40.100 you as a mom or dad it's the same
00:44:42.000 principle which is we will use the
00:44:44.020 government to crush our enemies i
00:44:46.060 hope that everybody will take this
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