Verdict with Ted Cruz - Defending Free Speech across the Globe plus DOGE Finds $4.7 Trillion in Unaccountable Government Spending

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00:00:05.240 Welcome. It is Verdict with Senator Ted Cruz, Ben Ferguson with you.

00:00:09.100 And Senator, the state of free speech is something that has not been talked about a lot lately

00:00:14.500 because we had this big victory here with Donald Trump and conservatives in charge.

00:00:19.440 But we are seeing an insane crackdown on free speech in Europe right now.

00:00:24.520 And it is a very concerning moment.

00:00:26.900 It is indeed. And let me say, free speech is a fundamental liberty.

00:00:31.320 There is a reason it is protected in the First Amendment to the Constitution.

00:00:35.380 And on this podcast, we have covered the assault on free speech in the United Kingdom.

00:00:41.240 Sadly, it is not just the UK. It is all of Europe. It is the United States.

00:00:45.880 It is a global assault on free speech.

00:00:48.400 But tonight we're going to break down, number one, J.D. Vance.

00:00:51.920 He gave an incredible speech in Europe that I think really was important.

00:00:55.220 It was calling out Europe for its abandonment of the values of free speech and how much of Europe has given up on those values.

00:01:05.200 Secondly, we're going to talk about Doge, Elon Musk, diving into the incredible waste and abuse we see in our federal government.

00:01:13.140 And in particular, over $4 trillion in federal payments that are unaccountable, that we cannot figure out where they went.

00:01:20.580 We're going to break that down as well.

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00:02:47.360 Senator, there's a lot of people that are listening and they're going to say, why are we talking about free speech in Europe?

00:02:54.040 Let's talk about America.

00:02:56.160 This is, I think, a flashpoint and a warning point that we could be where Europe is if it wasn't for one election.

00:03:05.620 And this last one is the one I'm talking about.

00:03:07.620 And that was part of the reason why I think J.D. Vance was so blunt in his speech in Europe about what they're doing to crack down on people just expressing their opinions.

00:03:18.260 Well, listen, often Europe and the United States flow on similar trend lines.

00:03:23.620 You look at in the 1980s, Ronald Reagan became president, Margaret Thatcher became president.

00:03:28.640 You look at after that, you had George Herbert Walker Bush, and then you had John Major.

00:03:33.640 You look at Bill Clinton and Tony Blair.

00:03:35.660 There are similar trend lines between the United States and Europe, and those trend lines are interwoven.

00:03:44.000 When it comes to fundamental liberties, under the United States Constitution, the First Amendment, you've got religious liberty and free speech.

00:03:51.680 And those are the two fundamental rights upon which all of our other liberties are built.

00:03:57.640 And one of the most distressing things, you look back even five, ten years ago, the left defended free speech.

00:04:05.060 The left believed in free speech.

00:04:06.940 As I look at today's Democrats, one of the things that scares me the most is the left has abandoned free speech.

00:04:14.320 They've decided, if you don't say what we agree with, we will silence you.

00:04:19.920 We will cancel you.

00:04:21.380 We will use big tech to muzzle you.

00:04:24.440 We will use the power of government to fire you, to oppress you, and even to incarcerate you.

00:04:31.040 Now, the last piece may seem extreme.

00:04:33.640 You might say, okay, look, we don't live in a world where you get locked up for what you say.

00:04:38.080 Well, you know what?

00:04:38.940 Much like the canary in the coal mine, Europe is a precursor to where America is heading. 0.74

00:04:45.760 And if you look at Europe, we have seen an assault on free speech that is terrifying.

00:04:50.780 Now, in this podcast, you and I have talked about, in the United Kingdom in particular, the efforts to prosecute those who tweet things that are deemed unacceptable, those who speak out, those who speak out against the epidemic of child rape. 0.99

00:05:06.420 Child rape we see from Pakistani Muslims engaged in rape gangs, raping not just hundreds but thousands of children. 1.00

00:05:15.340 And yet, in the UK, for years, for decades, there was a culture of repression and the unwillingness of the political environment to talk about it. 0.99

00:05:27.540 Now, I will say we saw J.D. Vance, my friend, the vice president, go to Europe this past week and give a speech that I think is really important.

00:05:36.900 It shocked Europe.

00:05:38.680 He was at the Munich Security Conference, which I've been to before.

00:05:42.200 It's a conference that many of the nations of Europe go to, the United States go to.

00:05:46.640 There are typically roughly a dozen to 20 U.S. senators that go to.

00:05:51.120 And he gave a speech.

00:05:52.780 Normally, a government official is supposed to give a speech about how America and Europe are on the same side.

00:05:57.880 We're all standing together.

00:05:59.020 Rah, rah, rah.

00:06:00.180 J.D., I'm proud of him, the speech he gave.

00:06:02.700 He called out Europe for their willingness to violate free speech.

00:06:08.100 I want you to give a listen to this excerpt from J.D.'s speech.

00:06:11.060 And unfortunately, when I look at Europe today, it's sometimes not so clear what happened to some of the Cold War's winners.

00:06:19.340 I look to Brussels, where EU commissars warn citizens that they intend to shut down social media during times of civil unrest the moment they spot what they've judged to be, quote, hateful content.

00:06:34.360 Or to this very country, where police have carried out raids against citizens suspected of posting anti-feminist comments online as part of, quote, combating misogyny on the Internet, a day of action.

00:06:48.140 I look to Sweden, where two weeks ago the government convicted a Christian activist for participating in Koran burnings that resulted in his friend's murder.

00:06:59.680 And as the judge in his case chillingly noted, Sweden's laws to supposedly protect free expression do not, in fact, grant, and I'm quoting, a free pass to do or say anything without risking offending the group that holds that belief.

00:07:17.100 And perhaps most concerningly, I look to our very dear friends, the United Kingdom, where the backslide away from conscience rights has placed the basic liberties of religious Britons, in particular, in the crosshairs.

00:07:29.440 A little over two years ago, the British government charged Adam Smith-Connor, a 51-year-old physiotherapist and an army veteran, with the heinous crime of standing 50 meters from an abortion clinic and silently praying for three minutes.

00:07:47.400 Not obstructing anyone, not obstructing anyone, just silently praying on his own.

00:07:53.840 And after British law enforcement spotted him and demanded to know what he was praying for, Adam replied simply, it was on behalf of the unborn son he and his former girlfriend had aborted years before.

00:08:05.720 Now, the officers were not moved.

00:08:08.400 Adam was found guilty of breaking the government's new buffer zones law, which criminalizes silent prayer and other actions that could influence a person's decision within 200 meters of an abortion facility.

00:08:21.260 He was sentenced to pay thousands of pounds in legal costs to the prosecution.

00:08:25.280 Now, I wish I could say that this was a fluke, a one-off crazy example of a badly written law being enacted against a single person.

00:08:34.440 But no, this last October, just a few months ago, the Scottish government began distributing letters to citizens whose houses lay within so-called safe access zones, warning them that even private prayer within their own homes may amount to breaking the law.

00:08:50.780 Naturally, the government urged readers to report any fellow citizens suspected guilty of thought crime.

00:08:58.080 In Britain and across Europe, free speech, I fear, is in retreat.

00:09:03.540 I mean, not only did he just call them out to their face, he told the world what each one of these countries did.

00:09:11.620 Yes, yes, yes, amen.

00:09:13.980 Listen, when it comes to what fundamentally matters if we want to stay free, religious liberty is fundamental.

00:09:20.780 And free speech is fundamental.

00:09:22.520 J.D. talked about how in the United Kingdom, silently praying has now been deemed a criminal offense.

00:09:30.340 It is difficult to find a more staggering affront to individual liberty than that.

00:09:36.940 And listen, I think we have an obligation to stand up and speak out.

00:09:41.180 You know, Ben, I've talked about how Heidi and I, we're a mixed marriage.

00:09:45.500 What do I mean by that?

00:09:46.940 Heidi is a Francophile.

00:09:49.020 I'm an Anglophile.

00:09:49.860 Heidi loves Paris.

00:09:51.280 It's her favorite city on planet Earth.

00:09:53.380 I love the Brits.

00:09:54.880 I love the United Kingdom.

00:09:57.160 I love the incredible innovation, the incredible leadership of the Brits.

00:10:02.420 So we're different.

00:10:03.160 And I appreciate it.

00:10:04.040 I appreciate the French.

00:10:05.600 But the beauty of a marriage is you combine both.

00:10:08.500 It breaks my heart to see the Brits abandoning free speech.

00:10:14.020 And the Brits are not alone.

00:10:15.480 It's all of Europe.

00:10:16.720 I want you to listen to this.

00:10:19.000 This is from 60 Minutes this past Sunday.

00:10:21.640 This is a group of German prosecutors discussing German law about free speech.

00:10:27.780 I got to say, this clip horrified me fundamentally.

00:10:32.740 Give a listen.

00:10:33.180 Is it a crime to insult somebody in public?

00:10:36.100 Yes.

00:10:36.500 Yes, it is.

00:10:37.420 And it's a crime to insult them online as well?

00:10:40.280 Yes.

00:10:40.900 The fine could be even higher if you insult someone in the Internet.

00:10:46.200 Why?

00:10:46.960 Because in the Internet, it stays there.

00:10:49.540 If we are talking here face-to-face, you insult me, I insult you, okay, finish.

00:10:54.640 But if you're in the Internet, if I insult you or a politician...

00:10:57.640 That sticks around forever.

00:10:59.000 Yeah.

00:11:00.220 The prosecutors explain German law also prohibits the spread of malicious gossip, violent threats, and fake quotes.

00:11:07.600 If somebody posts something that's not true, and then somebody else reposts it or likes it, are they committing a crime?

00:11:16.880 In the case of reposting, it is a crime as well, because the reader can't distinguish whether you just invented this or just reposted it.

00:11:25.540 That's the same for us.

00:11:26.480 The punishment for breaking hate speech laws can include jail time for repeat offenders.

00:11:32.640 I mean, I love how they say if you post something, and notice the question there from 60 Minutes, about politicians.

00:11:40.080 So, you're on the other side, right?

00:11:43.040 It's a divided country.

00:11:44.740 You post something about somebody that you disagree with.

00:11:49.060 They can now use that to lock you up, is what they're saying.

00:11:52.380 And the prosecutor's like, yes, yes, that's exactly what we're going to do.

00:11:54.920 Now, this is the government saying, if you dare say something we disagree with, we will lock you up.

00:12:01.300 So, I sent two tweets in the last 24 hours.

00:12:05.360 One, retweeting this exchange, I said, this is not the first time the Germans have threatened to arrest you if you say something that the government doesn't like.

00:12:15.840 And then, number two, I retweeted the same exchange, but I said, so, if someone called these guys, quote, goose-stepping Nazis for gleefully enforcing totalitarian speech codes, that would be deemed a crime in Germany.

00:12:34.340 I got to say on both of those, and by the way, I literally wondered when I'm typing in these tweets, listen, I'm a sitting senator from the great state of Texas in the U.S. Senate. 0.98

00:12:45.740 As I'm typing in these tweets, I wondered, gosh, if I visit Germany a year from now, will these bastards try to arrest me? 0.95

00:12:52.820 Because I sent a tweet, and you know what? 0.99

00:12:56.920 Fine, if they do it, let's go.

00:12:59.400 But let me say, how messed up is that?

00:13:02.180 That if I'm sitting on my phone saying, you're threatening to lock people up for saying things your government doesn't like,

00:13:08.780 and people are afraid, okay, I cannot disagree with the totalitarian government, that's frightening.

00:13:16.860 What has happened to Europe when free speech is speech that terrifying to the European governments that they're willing to imprison you for disagreeing with the orthodoxy of their beliefs?

00:13:31.340 Yeah, Adolf Hitler would be proud, let's be honest, because this is exactly what he did to people that disagreed with him. 0.91

00:13:37.260 He would lock them up.

00:13:39.240 By the way, if you travel to Germany and you get arrested, I'm going to send you a cake with a file in it to chisel through the bars.

00:13:48.180 I think I knew you had my back.

00:13:50.600 But listen, what you said, Adolf Hitler would be proud. 0.99

00:13:53.800 Germany has a little bit of PTSD coming out of World War II.

00:13:57.860 And listen, the Germans, they don't like being the bad guys of history.

00:14:01.420 And I get, listen, I'm not German, but I get if you're a modern German and you're kind of like, wait, our people were like, we're literally the Nazis.

00:14:12.940 I get that.

00:14:13.720 That would be traumatizing.

00:14:14.840 That would make you upset.

00:14:15.980 Be like, wait, you know, when's the last time you saw a movie where the Nazis were the good guys? 0.97

00:14:22.080 They're incredibly nervous about that.

00:14:24.360 But they've swung so far to the other direction.

00:14:29.280 You know, I remember, I think it was in high school I wrote a paper on how left and right in politics is not a straight line.

00:14:36.420 It's not left on one side, right on the other.

00:14:39.420 It's rather a circle where the extreme left and the extreme right intersect.

00:14:44.720 They're both willing to interfere with individual liberty because of their radical ideology.

00:14:51.860 This is a great example.

00:14:53.460 I get if you're a German, you don't want to recreate the path of the Nazis.

00:14:58.940 But you know what?

00:15:00.260 If your government is willing to arrest someone for saying something you disagree with, guess what?

00:15:06.960 You're recreating the path of the Nazis. 0.92

00:15:09.400 Yeah, it's a sad point, but it's a valuable point to make.

00:15:12.820 And good on Vice President Vance for going over there and getting in their face.

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00:17:00.220 Senator, I want to move on to Doge.

00:17:02.400 And, I mean, it's just mind-blowing at this point.

00:17:07.100 How much money is being uncovered that is involved in waste, fraud, and abuse within our government?

00:17:13.460 And then there's this new headline that came out of the White House.

00:17:18.280 And that is a bombshell that there has been $4.7 trillion that has been spent that is untraceable in the way that the payments went out from the Treasury Department.

00:17:33.080 Explain that to America.

00:17:35.180 Well, let me read from our article in Fox News.

00:17:38.560 Doge says it found nearly untraceable budget line items responsible for $4.7 trillion in payments.

00:17:46.140 The Trump administration's Doge discovered an identification code linking U.S. Treasury payments to a budget line item, which accounts for nearly $4.7 trillion in payments, which was oftentimes left blank.

00:18:02.700 The Treasury Access Symbol, TAS, is an identification code linking U.S. Treasury payment to a budget line item, standard financial process, Doge wrote and posted on X.

00:18:14.220 In the federal government, the TAS field was optional for $4.7 trillion in payments and was often left blank, making traceability almost impossible.

00:18:27.420 So, as of Saturday, this is now a required field, increasing insight into where money is actually going.

00:18:36.000 So, understand, $4.7 trillion.

00:18:39.040 Listen, a million dollars is a lot of money.

00:18:42.460 A billion dollars is a crap ton more.

00:18:45.080 It's actually a thousand times more.

00:18:47.000 A trillion dollars is a thousand, thousand times more than a million dollars.

00:18:53.080 And $4.7 trillion is, even in federal government, spending a massive amount.

00:19:00.220 The point here is the money that has been coming from the federal government has been massively wasted.

00:19:07.340 And there has been no accountability.

00:19:09.640 And the entire governmental system is reacting in pain and horror and agony that Donald Trump and Elon Musk are bringing, finally, accountability to it.

00:19:19.620 You look at the $4.7 trillion, is this done on purpose for this exact reason?

00:19:26.120 If you don't know where the money's going, you can't trace the money, then you can't ask questions.

00:19:31.580 Oh, look, yes and no.

00:19:33.140 I had an old boss of mine, my very first boss, who said, and this was actually quite profound,

00:19:40.180 he said, never blame on malice, what can be explained with incompetence.

00:19:46.660 Look, that explains a lot of government.

00:19:48.660 There is massive waste.

00:19:51.640 There is massive politicization and weaponization.

00:19:54.600 If you're spending your own money, you care about it.

00:19:57.860 Ben, you care about your own money.

00:19:59.580 If you're spending someone else's money, you don't care about it.

00:20:03.680 And that problem in government is there's a culture of endemic waste that is enormously problematic.

00:20:12.080 And you combine that with a politicization that there's a, it doesn't matter.

00:20:18.540 I'm spending someone else's money.

00:20:20.060 I don't care. 0.98

00:20:21.020 And I'm going to spend it to promote transgender witches in some far off country. 1.00

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00:20:30.160 And that's what Trump and Elon are exposing.

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00:21:04.600 You talk about what all they're exposing outside the $4.7 trillion in payments that we can't

00:21:11.580 trace.

00:21:12.480 Let's talk about illegal immigrants receiving benefits. 0.98

00:21:15.680 And the media, by the way, they're going to defend everything they can, even if it's indefensible.

00:21:22.120 A great example of that.

00:21:23.300 Ben, let me ask you this.

00:21:24.380 Is there one Democrat you know who has criticized one single example of massive waste, abuse,

00:21:33.240 and fraud?

00:21:34.100 And by the way, by one Democrat, I don't mean James Carver.

00:21:36.700 We talked about that two days ago.

00:21:38.300 I don't mean a consultant.

00:21:39.320 I mean one elected Democrat.

00:21:40.940 I can tell you, in the U.S. Senate, I don't know of a single one.

00:21:43.640 Do you?

00:21:44.360 No, not a single one.

00:21:45.880 And you would think at some point they would come out and go, yeah, this is good for Americans.

00:21:50.200 It's good for my district.

00:21:50.960 It's good for the taxpayers I represent that we're not going to spend money on X, Y, or

00:21:55.020 Z.

00:21:55.420 None of these egregious items that we've listed on the show, and we've done a really good

00:22:01.000 job of keeping people up to date with where the money's going.

00:22:03.960 None of them have been criticized by the Democrats.

00:22:06.220 And the media, again, they are just hell-bent on saying Donald Trump bad, Elon Musk bad, Doge

00:22:12.920 bad.

00:22:13.320 Here's a great example.

00:22:15.100 Listen to this exchange with Stephen Miller, because it is hysterical.

00:22:19.980 By the way, tonight I saw Stephen.

00:22:21.780 I was at a party.

00:22:23.580 So Howard Lutnick was just confirmed as Commerce Secretary.

00:22:26.100 He had a party at his house.

00:22:27.340 I saw Stephen this evening, and I told him, great job on CNN.

00:22:31.220 Listen to this exchange, because she really is, it's nutty. 0.98

00:22:35.060 And I've got to say, CNN has become a clown show. 0.97

00:22:37.480 It's not even real journalism. 1.00

00:22:39.920 It's just silly. 0.65

00:22:40.520 But listen to this back and forth. 0.75

00:22:41.760 You mentioned yesterday, and you mentioned again here, illegal immigrants who are getting

00:22:47.940 child tax credits.

00:22:52.020 Are you looking for that information in the IRS data?

00:22:56.480 Anytime a crime is committed, of course there should be an investigation.

00:23:02.240 Is it your position that if somebody who is here criminally is stealing taxpayer dollars?

00:23:07.540 The federal government will find every illegal alien who is stealing American taxpayer dollars. 1.00

00:23:13.720 And that's what Americans expect to happen.

00:23:15.420 Will you find that in the IRS data and share that with law enforcement?

00:23:17.640 If IRS investigators find illegal aliens stealing taxpayer money, of course they'll be referred 1.00

00:23:28.360 to ICE.

00:23:28.980 Of course they'll be referred to Homeland Security investigations.

00:23:32.520 Of course it will be.

00:23:33.940 Surely your position is not that we should let illegal aliens steal taxpayer dollars. 0.98

00:23:38.820 You want to talk about something to be upset about?

00:23:40.660 That's it.

00:23:41.500 What do you think?

00:23:42.460 The millions of illegal aliens who have also stolen Social Security. 0.96

00:23:46.100 Illegal aliens, in mass, have fake Social Security numbers.

00:23:49.340 They have fake identities. 0.60

00:23:50.720 Those are felonies.

00:23:52.460 Why should there be an entire class in this country that is immunized from criminal prosecution

00:23:57.200 and arrest for committing felonies?

00:24:00.260 Felony theft of taxpayer information?

00:24:02.720 Felony theft of Social Security?

00:24:05.140 Felony theft of identity?

00:24:06.180 These are all crimes.

00:24:07.540 And yes, they'll be investigated.

00:24:09.180 Yes, they'll be prosecuted.

00:24:10.460 And yes, illegal aliens will be deported.

00:24:12.320 And you know what happens when those deportations occur?

00:24:14.360 Just very quickly, Stephen.

00:24:15.440 Is that Americans will get jobs.

00:24:16.940 Americans will get benefits. 0.94

00:24:18.060 Americans will get houses. 0.98

00:24:19.280 Stephen, if they got a child, if they got a credit, a child tax credit, and they will

00:24:24.980 be referred, you're saying, to ICE for that, and you would expect deported for that?

00:24:30.100 Is that the position of the administration?

00:24:31.860 If it is found that a crime has been committed, they'll be referred.

00:24:36.460 If it justifies the prosecution, they'll be prosecuted.

00:24:40.100 If it justifies the deportation, they will be deported.

00:24:42.780 This will be based on existing IRS protocols and procedures for criminal investigation and

00:24:49.620 fraud.

00:24:50.440 The difference is that no one is given immunity anymore.

00:24:53.720 No one is given permission to break the law anymore.

00:24:56.720 Because this is not a country, this is not a sovereign territory, if illegal aliens can 1.00

00:25:01.680 freely steal billions, with a B, billions of taxpayer dollars.

00:25:06.040 And I would have to imagine that CNN, which is endlessly talking about the importance of

00:25:11.380 democracy and the rule of law, would say that no class in this country should be above

00:25:15.820 the law, least of all illegal aliens who have trespassed on our territory.

00:25:19.680 Stephen, I'm just asking, I wanted to get your position on some things.

00:25:23.220 We're not taking a position here.

00:25:24.500 We wanted to get some answers to some questions.

00:25:26.720 There are so many questions that need to be answered.

00:25:29.040 It doesn't sound to me like you are, in fact, indifferent or unbiased on these questions.

00:25:32.660 But thank you.

00:25:33.400 Stephen Miller, thank you so much for your time.

00:25:35.920 Really appreciate it.

00:25:36.640 And we'll be right back.

00:25:37.200 Thank you.

00:25:37.460 It's amazing, isn't it?

00:25:38.640 It's like, oh, we don't take positions here.

00:25:40.380 And I love how he grins.

00:25:41.520 He grins and laughs in her face.

00:25:43.040 Like, are you kidding me?

00:25:43.980 Everybody watching right now knows exactly what you're doing.

00:25:46.520 And you're trying to act like we're doing something wrong when, in fact, we're saving taxpayers

00:25:50.160 dollars.

00:25:51.440 What Miller is saying is exactly right.

00:25:53.600 The federal government should enforce the law.

00:25:56.880 If you have illegal aliens who are stealing from the taxpayers, they should be prosecuted. 1.00

00:26:02.160 And the bizarre position CNN is taking is, well, if the IRS knows that you're illegally

00:26:08.580 stealing from the taxpayers, the IRS shouldn't tell that to the rest of the federal government.

00:26:14.240 You should protect the illegal aliens who are stealing from the taxpayers. 1.00

00:26:17.800 That's a weird proposition.

00:26:20.860 Why is the IRS separate from DOJ, separate from DHS, separate from ICE, separate from all

00:26:25.940 of the different federal agencies?

00:26:27.420 And CNN is so vested in saying we want millions of illegal aliens here and we want there to 1.00

00:26:35.020 be no consequences to their continuing to engage in fraud, to work illegally, to draw Social

00:26:42.700 Security payments, to draw government payments fraudulently.

00:26:46.180 That is CNN's position.

00:26:47.940 And I got to say, I'm going to credit Stephen Miller for calling out CNN for they're not

00:26:53.920 engaged in news.

00:26:55.260 They have a position on this.

00:26:56.980 Because they don't want the law enforced.

00:26:59.580 And I got to say, I think the American people do.

00:27:01.700 Yeah, no doubt about it.

00:27:02.560 We're going to keep covering this issue and watch the money for you, because these are

00:27:07.460 the moments that we have to just say, hey, here's the choice.

00:27:11.040 Do you want illegal immigrants having all this money or do you want to save this money when 1.00

00:27:15.800 they're breaking the law?

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