Verdict with Ted Cruz - February 15, 2025


Democrats Crazed as Trump Breaks Their Toys, Social Security for 150yr Olds & USAID Funding Hamas Week In Review


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Ted Cruz's weekend review of three stories you may have missed: Democrats not in charge and don't mind shutting down the government to hurt Donald Trump? Will it work? Also, Social Security checks are going out to people that are 150 years old. And USAID money is going directly to terrorist organizations and charities and the government knew it.

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00:00:00.000 This is an iHeart Podcast.
00:00:02.680 Guaranteed human.
00:00:05.360 Welcome, it is Verdict with Ted Cruz.
00:00:07.440 Weekend Review, Ben Ferguson with you.
00:00:09.220 And if it sounds like I'm under the weather,
00:00:10.660 I have the flu right now,
00:00:12.200 but the show, as they say, must go on.
00:00:14.280 So here are the three stories that you may have missed
00:00:16.100 that we talked about this week.
00:00:17.580 First up, Democrats not in charge
00:00:20.120 and don't mind shutting down the government
00:00:21.960 to hurt Donald Trump.
00:00:23.380 So will it work?
00:00:24.220 We'll explain that in a moment.
00:00:25.820 Also, social security checks are going out
00:00:28.060 to people that are 150 years old.
00:00:30.880 That's right, Doge is uncovering more waste, fraud, and abuse.
00:00:34.280 It's incredible what we found in the first three weeks
00:00:36.380 and we'll have the list for you as well.
00:00:38.820 And finally, USAID money going directly
00:00:41.480 to terrorist organizations and charities
00:00:43.580 and the government knew it the entire time.
00:00:45.960 It's the Weekend Review and it starts right now.
00:00:48.800 Democrats now trying to figure out their footing.
00:00:51.940 They had Alam Omar who went on TV today
00:00:55.140 saying that Trump has decided
00:00:57.720 he will not abide by the Constitution,
00:00:59.860 just throwing it out there.
00:01:01.260 And then she says, by the way,
00:01:02.640 every executive order that's been to court now
00:01:04.720 has been shut down by the court.
00:01:06.380 That's a lie, not true.
00:01:08.120 But it even Face the Nation tried to softly correct her
00:01:12.560 because they want this to be true, right?
00:01:15.760 And then there's this new threat of like,
00:01:18.380 all right, we'll just shut down the government.
00:01:20.020 I kind of laugh because for many conservatives,
00:01:23.800 they're like, great, let's shut it down
00:01:24.940 and save some money for a while.
00:01:26.000 I wish it worked that way.
00:01:27.120 I wish it was that simple.
00:01:28.120 It's obviously not.
00:01:29.360 But this is the new temper tantrum of the left.
00:01:32.840 They're saying if we aren't in charge,
00:01:35.000 then we want to destroy what the government does well.
00:01:38.340 We want to hurt people
00:01:39.360 and we want to shut down the government to hurt people
00:01:41.260 so you'll blame Donald Trump.
00:01:42.680 That's what this is really all about.
00:01:44.180 Am I wrong?
00:01:45.760 Well, look, understand there's a battle going back and forth.
00:01:49.360 And at some level,
00:01:50.400 this battle is inherent in the structure of our government.
00:01:52.860 It's inherent in the Constitution.
00:01:55.260 Congress, under Article I,
00:01:57.040 all legislative power is vested
00:01:58.920 in the Congress of the United States.
00:02:01.140 Congress passes the laws
00:02:02.720 that the president signs into law
00:02:05.040 and that are then binding federal law.
00:02:08.960 The executive, all executive power
00:02:11.720 is vested in the president of the United States.
00:02:13.840 That's under Article II of the Constitution.
00:02:16.260 And the president is charged with,
00:02:18.600 has given the authority to
00:02:19.880 and also the responsibility to,
00:02:22.560 quote, take care that the laws be faithfully executed.
00:02:26.940 That's the Constitution's language.
00:02:29.180 And so a lot of, you know,
00:02:30.800 it's interesting as I travel around
00:02:32.400 and talk to people back home in Texas
00:02:34.420 or around the country,
00:02:36.140 they ask, okay, so is what Elon's doing,
00:02:39.740 is what Trump is doing,
00:02:41.300 cutting off funding at USAID,
00:02:43.720 pausing other funding,
00:02:44.780 is that going to stick?
00:02:46.900 And this is a battle back and forth
00:02:49.540 between the executive and legislature
00:02:51.780 that has occurred since the very first days of the Republic.
00:02:55.540 And one of the things right at the heart of this battle
00:02:58.180 is about something called impoundment.
00:03:02.400 Now, what does impoundment mean?
00:03:04.720 Impoundment is when the president of the United States
00:03:07.160 decides not to spend money
00:03:09.380 that has been appropriated by the U.S. Congress.
00:03:12.760 Now, you might ask,
00:03:14.740 okay, is impoundment some crazy theory
00:03:16.980 that Donald Trump cooked up
00:03:18.360 or Elon Musk cooked up?
00:03:20.120 Well, no.
00:03:21.200 No, impoundment has been around
00:03:22.620 for more than 200 years.
00:03:24.200 The first president to exercise impoundment
00:03:26.760 was Thomas Jefferson,
00:03:28.340 and he did so in 1801.
00:03:29.840 And if you look at what Thomas Jefferson did,
00:03:35.420 the first use of impoundment
00:03:37.580 involved a refusal to spend $50,000,
00:03:41.220 which $50,000 in 2023 dollars
00:03:44.400 is about $1.24 million,
00:03:46.740 in funds that were appropriated
00:03:48.480 for the acquisition of gunboats
00:03:50.340 for the United States Navy.
00:03:52.860 And Thomas Jefferson said in 1803
00:03:55.060 that, quote,
00:03:56.280 the sum of $50,000 appropriated by Congress
00:03:58.800 for providing gunboats
00:04:00.360 remains unexpended.
00:04:02.680 The favorable and peaceful turn of affairs
00:04:04.900 on the Mississippi
00:04:05.700 rendered an immediate execution
00:04:07.820 of that law unnecessary.
00:04:10.640 Now, Jefferson did so,
00:04:12.600 and in the years that went on,
00:04:14.920 presidents did so for 200 years.
00:04:17.120 Now, what happened?
00:04:19.100 Well, in the 1970s,
00:04:21.180 Richard Nixon had a battle with Congress,
00:04:24.740 and Congress got angry with Richard Nixon
00:04:27.420 and felt he was using impoundment
00:04:29.320 too aggressively.
00:04:31.540 And Congress passed a law
00:04:33.480 called the Congressional Budget
00:04:36.160 and Impoundment Control Act
00:04:37.940 of 1974
00:04:39.620 that purported
00:04:40.940 to remove the power of impoundment,
00:04:44.600 or at least to severely curtail it.
00:04:46.960 And the Supreme Court
00:04:49.120 heard a decision,
00:04:51.340 it was a decision called
00:04:52.340 Train v. City of New York,
00:04:54.740 where the Supreme Court
00:04:56.420 upheld the Impoundment Control Act
00:05:00.580 and significantly reduced
00:05:03.720 the president's power
00:05:05.060 to exercise impoundment.
00:05:07.240 Now, by the way,
00:05:08.900 there was a subsequent wrinkle in this,
00:05:11.880 in that Congress came back afterwards
00:05:15.800 and passed a bill
00:05:17.440 called the Line Item Veto Act
00:05:19.000 of 1996.
00:05:20.740 This happened after
00:05:22.000 the Republican takeover of Congress,
00:05:24.780 Newt Gingrich came in,
00:05:26.180 and the Line Item Veto Act
00:05:27.800 gave the president
00:05:28.660 the power of line item veto,
00:05:30.620 which Bill Clinton
00:05:31.700 used on the federal budget
00:05:34.040 82 times.
00:05:36.060 However,
00:05:37.000 that law was struck down
00:05:39.180 in 1998
00:05:39.960 by the Supreme Court.
00:05:41.380 It was a 5-4 vote.
00:05:43.000 Actually,
00:05:43.420 my former boss
00:05:44.340 and very good friend,
00:05:45.360 Chuck Cooper,
00:05:46.020 the man who taught me
00:05:47.040 how to be a lawyer,
00:05:48.400 argued that case.
00:05:49.460 Unfortunately,
00:05:50.100 he was on the losing side
00:05:51.300 of that case
00:05:51.880 and lost 5-4.
00:05:54.080 The point,
00:05:55.920 what Elon is doing
00:05:57.240 and what Trump is doing,
00:05:59.140 there's a long history
00:06:00.360 of presidents saying,
00:06:01.520 I don't want to spend money
00:06:03.240 that is wasteful
00:06:04.100 and I'm not going to.
00:06:05.880 Now,
00:06:06.020 there's also a history
00:06:06.760 of Congress pushing back.
00:06:09.960 What's likely to happen?
00:06:11.640 There is already,
00:06:13.140 and there will be more,
00:06:15.540 a crap ton of litigation
00:06:18.240 challenging these actions.
00:06:21.260 We're seeing Democrat 0.87
00:06:23.000 attorneys general
00:06:24.100 bringing lawsuits.
00:06:25.300 We're going to see
00:06:25.880 Democrat interest groups
00:06:27.160 bringing lawsuits.
00:06:29.200 We're going to see
00:06:29.660 activist judges
00:06:30.640 striking down
00:06:32.340 actions,
00:06:34.700 executive orders,
00:06:35.640 and this is going
00:06:37.420 to test the legal boundaries.
00:06:39.060 At the end of the day,
00:06:40.760 part of what is going on
00:06:42.520 is this is designed
00:06:43.760 to go to the Supreme Court
00:06:46.020 and to restore
00:06:47.740 the power of impoundment
00:06:49.420 to the president.
00:06:50.240 I think that would be
00:06:51.100 a very good thing.
00:06:51.960 I think it is consistent.
00:06:53.600 It is an inherent authority
00:06:55.360 of the president
00:06:56.140 to exercise the authority
00:06:57.580 of impoundment,
00:06:58.840 but understand
00:07:00.640 we're going to see
00:07:02.180 a litigation
00:07:03.920 battle royale
00:07:06.300 and it'll take
00:07:07.520 in all likelihood.
00:07:09.020 So this is,
00:07:09.520 you're saying
00:07:09.920 this is a fight
00:07:10.540 that we want
00:07:11.400 to go to the Supreme Court
00:07:12.520 and if it does go
00:07:14.020 to the Supreme Court
00:07:14.700 and it plays
00:07:15.980 to our advantage
00:07:16.720 the way that you're
00:07:17.220 describing it
00:07:17.820 with the law,
00:07:18.580 how long is it going
00:07:19.460 to take us
00:07:19.820 to get it there?
00:07:20.820 Probably a couple of years,
00:07:21.840 two to three years.
00:07:22.880 So in the next
00:07:23.780 two to three years,
00:07:24.580 we're going to be
00:07:25.340 just dealing with
00:07:26.180 pure fights
00:07:27.100 with the media,
00:07:29.260 Democrats coming after
00:07:30.620 and trying to stop
00:07:31.200 everything that they're
00:07:32.340 trying to cut
00:07:32.780 with waste,
00:07:33.240 fraud,
00:07:33.400 and abuse.
00:07:34.040 Yes,
00:07:34.520 and understand
00:07:35.640 Elon and Doge,
00:07:37.660 they're embodying
00:07:38.940 right now
00:07:39.500 the Silicon Valley
00:07:40.520 mantra
00:07:41.080 of move fast
00:07:42.300 and break things.
00:07:43.500 I mean,
00:07:43.880 that's what they're doing.
00:07:45.100 Not everything
00:07:45.920 that they do
00:07:47.440 is going to be upheld.
00:07:48.760 There will be
00:07:49.440 injunctions issued
00:07:50.600 and I think
00:07:51.680 they understand that
00:07:52.560 and I think
00:07:53.040 they're trying to
00:07:54.160 they're trying
00:07:55.940 to implement
00:07:56.780 the mandate
00:07:57.860 that came from
00:07:58.660 the voters
00:07:59.200 as rapidly
00:08:00.560 and effectively
00:08:01.280 as possible.
00:08:02.700 Listen,
00:08:03.140 I for one
00:08:03.600 am excited about that
00:08:04.760 and I think
00:08:06.200 if you look
00:08:06.760 at some of
00:08:07.740 the egregious abuses
00:08:08.700 that have been
00:08:09.220 uncovered so far,
00:08:11.140 it gives an illustration
00:08:12.440 of just how important
00:08:13.480 this is.
00:08:14.520 Before we move on
00:08:15.480 to the federal
00:08:16.140 financial watchdog
00:08:17.120 order to cease activity
00:08:18.220 and that's important,
00:08:18.980 we're going to deal
00:08:19.260 with that in a second.
00:08:19.900 One final question
00:08:21.120 on this.
00:08:22.480 We could go back,
00:08:23.380 I think,
00:08:23.840 whenever the sale was,
00:08:25.400 a year and a half,
00:08:26.040 whatever it was,
00:08:27.060 when Elon Musk
00:08:28.300 took over Twitter
00:08:30.340 and we saw
00:08:31.520 the Twitter files
00:08:32.440 and then we saw
00:08:33.120 the corruption,
00:08:34.480 I actually think
00:08:35.300 you can trace this
00:08:36.160 all the way back
00:08:36.960 to there
00:08:37.520 when people
00:08:38.700 really started
00:08:39.260 paying attention
00:08:39.860 to saying,
00:08:40.560 I don't trust
00:08:40.960 the government.
00:08:41.380 You add COVID
00:08:42.060 in there
00:08:42.500 and the lies
00:08:43.440 of the vaccine
00:08:44.120 and the two weeks
00:08:45.080 stopped the spread
00:08:45.800 and the Wuhan
00:08:46.280 Institute of Virology
00:08:47.240 and then the lies
00:08:48.380 over the Hunter Biden
00:08:49.160 laptop and there
00:08:50.480 started to be
00:08:51.160 these moments
00:08:52.020 that were big
00:08:52.920 where people were like,
00:08:53.460 okay,
00:08:54.260 maybe I shouldn't
00:08:55.480 be so trusting
00:08:56.240 of the news,
00:08:57.240 maybe I shouldn't
00:08:57.780 be trusting
00:08:58.200 of the government,
00:08:58.960 the deep state,
00:08:59.820 the president
00:09:00.360 and then you have
00:09:02.440 him take over
00:09:03.540 X, right?
00:09:04.560 Twitter now X.
00:09:05.900 Part of the reason
00:09:06.760 why I think
00:09:07.260 Donald Trump's
00:09:07.760 having so much success
00:09:08.560 now is because
00:09:09.660 we're getting
00:09:10.380 the word out
00:09:11.200 about the waste
00:09:12.400 and the fraud
00:09:13.080 and getting the line
00:09:14.440 out of it
00:09:14.840 and people are seeing it
00:09:16.160 because before,
00:09:17.980 you go back
00:09:18.340 to 2016,
00:09:19.200 center,
00:09:19.780 big tree falls
00:09:20.560 in the forest,
00:09:21.100 no one's around,
00:09:21.800 does it make a sound,
00:09:22.820 right?
00:09:23.280 The answer is no
00:09:24.480 but now what we're
00:09:25.860 getting in the info
00:09:27.080 that we're getting
00:09:27.700 and it's getting out
00:09:28.920 because big tech
00:09:29.720 can't suppress it
00:09:30.580 on X,
00:09:31.500 how valuable is that
00:09:32.760 to saving our democracy?
00:09:34.520 Look,
00:09:34.700 I think it's
00:09:35.320 incredibly valuable.
00:09:36.680 I believe Elon Musk
00:09:38.400 buying Twitter
00:09:39.260 was the most important
00:09:41.260 development for free speech
00:09:43.100 in modern times
00:09:44.060 because it turned around
00:09:45.960 the rampant censorship
00:09:47.980 from big tech,
00:09:49.640 it put positive pressure
00:09:51.060 on the rest of big tech
00:09:52.920 and it created a vehicle
00:09:54.560 for the truth to get out
00:09:56.740 so,
00:09:57.200 you know,
00:09:57.440 we've gone through
00:09:58.100 in previous podcasts
00:09:59.160 all the examples
00:10:00.520 or not all the examples
00:10:01.800 but a number of examples
00:10:02.960 of abusive spending
00:10:04.480 two million dollars
00:10:06.640 for sex changes
00:10:08.220 in Guatemala.
00:10:09.680 Now, 0.80
00:10:10.120 who the hell
00:10:10.740 can defend that?
00:10:11.860 Why U.S. taxpayers
00:10:13.100 are paying for sex changes
00:10:15.160 in Guatemala?
00:10:16.240 Money to the BBC,
00:10:17.620 the British Broadcasting Corporation,
00:10:19.640 By the way,
00:10:20.660 why the hell
00:10:22.080 are American taxpayers
00:10:23.560 paying for the BBC?
00:10:25.300 The last I checked,
00:10:26.240 the United Kingdom
00:10:26.920 is a major developed country.
00:10:28.140 They can pay for their own 1.00
00:10:29.000 damn television station. 1.00
00:10:30.660 What do we need 1.00
00:10:31.400 to pay for that?
00:10:33.300 And what's amazing
00:10:34.180 is the Democrats
00:10:34.940 are just digging in.
00:10:36.140 Give a listen
00:10:36.640 to Senator Chris Coons
00:10:38.340 defending
00:10:39.240 spending 20 million dollars
00:10:41.940 on American taxpayer money
00:10:43.320 for Sesame Street
00:10:44.460 in Iraq.
00:10:45.600 Give a listen.
00:10:46.040 Is funding Sesame Street
00:10:48.520 a judicious use
00:10:50.300 of soft power?
00:10:51.420 Well, Michael,
00:10:52.300 the way you put it
00:10:53.260 is the way I hope
00:10:54.440 folks considering
00:10:55.340 your poll today
00:10:56.360 will think about it.
00:10:57.840 This isn't just funding
00:10:58.980 a kid show
00:10:59.840 for children,
00:11:01.100 millions of children
00:11:02.020 in countries like Iraq.
00:11:03.600 It's a show
00:11:04.680 that helps teach values,
00:11:06.700 helps teach public health,
00:11:08.640 helps prevent kids
00:11:09.620 from dying
00:11:10.340 from dysentery
00:11:11.600 and disease,
00:11:12.480 and helps push values
00:11:14.280 like collaboration,
00:11:16.220 peacefulness,
00:11:17.180 cooperation
00:11:17.660 in a society
00:11:19.120 where the alternative
00:11:20.020 is ISIS,
00:11:21.540 extremism,
00:11:22.380 and terrorism.
00:11:23.740 And to your point,
00:11:24.880 it's pennies
00:11:25.660 on the dollar.
00:11:26.780 The U.S.
00:11:27.440 Department of Defense
00:11:28.540 has an annual budget
00:11:29.740 of about $850 billion.
00:11:33.960 USAID was spending
00:11:35.160 about $30 billion.
00:11:37.300 It is a small proportion
00:11:39.000 of our total federal spending,
00:11:41.100 and as Joe Nye
00:11:41.880 would often say,
00:11:43.080 it's not just soft power,
00:11:44.820 it's smart power.
00:11:46.280 Let me leave you 0.94
00:11:46.900 with one other quote,
00:11:47.880 Michael, if I could.
00:11:49.180 Jim Mattis,
00:11:49.840 who was a four-star
00:11:50.760 Marine Corps general
00:11:51.760 and Trump's Secretary of Defense
00:11:54.080 in his first term,
00:11:55.540 in a hearing back then,
00:11:56.960 said,
00:11:57.240 if you slash development
00:11:59.320 and aid spending,
00:12:00.640 then I'm going to need 0.92
00:12:02.020 more bullets 0.90
00:12:03.040 for our troops.
00:12:04.220 I mean,
00:12:04.820 you want to talk
00:12:05.620 about stretching.
00:12:06.440 He's saying
00:12:06.880 Sesame Street's going to
00:12:07.780 save us from extremism.
00:12:08.960 Are we kidding ourselves?
00:12:10.360 Well, look,
00:12:11.240 the Democrats are dug in
00:12:12.980 to defending everything,
00:12:14.580 to defending
00:12:15.180 all of the money
00:12:16.640 that was just
00:12:17.400 flowing out
00:12:18.520 with no checks
00:12:19.640 whatsoever.
00:12:20.760 And I think
00:12:21.840 these examples
00:12:22.620 are having a real effect
00:12:23.700 of pissing people off, 0.75
00:12:24.900 saying,
00:12:25.220 why is my money
00:12:26.380 going to that?
00:12:27.820 By the way,
00:12:28.420 if Democrats think
00:12:30.400 that's such a good idea,
00:12:31.520 let them give their own money
00:12:32.480 for that.
00:12:32.900 But what right do they have
00:12:33.980 to take your money
00:12:35.200 that you're working hard
00:12:36.340 to provide for your kids
00:12:37.440 and your family
00:12:38.200 to take it
00:12:39.140 and spend it
00:12:39.820 on every radical agenda item
00:12:42.240 they want to push?
00:12:43.340 That's what's been happening.
00:12:44.600 It happened
00:12:45.080 at egregious levels
00:12:46.840 under the Biden administration,
00:12:47.960 and I think that's what
00:12:49.120 Trump's working very hard
00:12:50.260 to turn around.
00:12:51.800 Yeah, great point.
00:12:52.980 Finally,
00:12:53.280 I want to ask you
00:12:54.040 about this
00:12:54.640 because I think
00:12:55.220 it should be on listeners'
00:12:56.440 radar screen.
00:12:57.000 It's an important issue.
00:12:58.740 The New York Times
00:12:59.360 is coming out
00:12:59.880 talking about this.
00:13:00.740 The federal financial watchdog
00:13:02.640 has been ordered
00:13:04.460 to cease activity
00:13:05.800 known as the Consumer
00:13:07.260 Financial Protection Bureau.
00:13:09.460 Why is this happening
00:13:10.600 and what does this mean?
00:13:12.260 Well, the CFPB,
00:13:14.020 the Consumer Financial
00:13:15.160 Protection Bureau,
00:13:16.180 was created
00:13:17.080 by the Dodd-Frank law.
00:13:18.420 This is a creation
00:13:19.860 of Elizabeth Warren,
00:13:20.940 and it has descended
00:13:25.420 like locusts,
00:13:26.720 putting all sorts
00:13:28.160 of regulations
00:13:28.920 and costs.
00:13:30.400 It brings abusive litigation.
00:13:32.720 It is an avenue
00:13:35.260 for left-wing bureaucrats
00:13:39.380 to try to control
00:13:40.880 community banks,
00:13:42.940 smaller financial institutions,
00:13:44.520 and to drive up costs.
00:13:46.200 And the CFPB,
00:13:48.260 I've introduced repeatedly
00:13:50.220 legislation to eliminate
00:13:51.660 the CFPB.
00:13:53.560 What happened this week
00:13:55.360 is Russ Vogt
00:13:56.660 was confirmed
00:13:57.780 to leave the Office
00:13:58.780 of Management and Budget.
00:13:59.920 And Russ is a good friend.
00:14:01.520 He's a good guy.
00:14:03.040 He ran OMB
00:14:04.900 under Trump
00:14:05.580 during the first term.
00:14:07.260 And Russ was just confirmed.
00:14:08.720 We just confirmed him
00:14:09.540 this past week
00:14:10.260 to run OMB again.
00:14:11.940 And on Friday,
00:14:13.400 he was also named
00:14:14.420 the acting director
00:14:15.660 of the Consumer
00:14:17.380 Financial Protection Bureau,
00:14:19.420 the CFPB.
00:14:20.760 And as a result,
00:14:23.480 he issued an order
00:14:24.560 for them to halt
00:14:25.920 what they're doing.
00:14:27.920 So one chunk of it.
00:14:28.900 So the way
00:14:29.340 Elizabeth Warren
00:14:30.060 structured it.
00:14:32.280 Congress does not
00:14:33.300 appropriate money
00:14:34.080 to the CFPB,
00:14:35.060 which is weird,
00:14:35.660 by the way.
00:14:36.140 If you look at
00:14:36.860 virtually every federal agency,
00:14:38.700 Congress appropriates
00:14:39.580 money for them.
00:14:40.220 That's part of the
00:14:41.220 checks and balances
00:14:42.120 of how the federal
00:14:44.040 government is set up.
00:14:45.280 Well,
00:14:46.520 Dodd-Frank instead
00:14:48.340 has the CFPB
00:14:49.960 funded
00:14:50.440 with money
00:14:52.060 from the Federal Reserve
00:14:53.280 that flows automatically
00:14:54.780 so Congress
00:14:55.560 doesn't get
00:14:56.240 to appropriate
00:14:57.260 and engage
00:14:57.960 in the oversight
00:14:58.520 that comes with that.
00:15:00.500 So as a result,
00:15:02.580 on Saturday,
00:15:04.040 Russ Vogt
00:15:04.740 wrote that he had
00:15:08.020 notified the Federal Reserve
00:15:09.620 that the CFPB,
00:15:10.860 will not be taking
00:15:13.180 its next draw
00:15:14.180 of unappropriated
00:15:15.980 funding
00:15:16.500 because it is
00:15:17.940 not reasonably
00:15:19.040 necessary
00:15:19.600 to carry out
00:15:20.660 its duties.
00:15:22.380 The Bureau's
00:15:23.060 current balance
00:15:23.820 of $711.6 million
00:15:26.000 is in fact
00:15:27.640 excessive
00:15:28.260 in the current
00:15:28.900 fiscal environment.
00:15:30.900 This spigot,
00:15:31.780 long contributing
00:15:32.540 to CFPB's
00:15:33.560 unaccountability,
00:15:34.680 is now being
00:15:36.060 turned off.
00:15:37.200 That is fantastic,
00:15:38.760 and I'll tell you
00:15:39.340 what,
00:15:39.920 I've introduced
00:15:40.780 legislation
00:15:41.580 that will
00:15:43.140 zero out
00:15:43.960 the CFPB,
00:15:44.860 that will shut 0.91
00:15:45.480 it down
00:15:46.060 permanently.
00:15:47.060 I believe
00:15:47.900 we will get
00:15:48.500 that done
00:15:49.120 as part
00:15:51.320 of budget
00:15:52.520 reconciliation.
00:15:54.660 And so
00:15:55.080 eliminating
00:15:55.780 the CFP
00:15:56.780 would be
00:15:57.220 a major
00:15:57.960 victory
00:15:58.560 for lowering
00:15:59.860 inflation,
00:16:00.700 for lowering
00:16:01.280 burdensome
00:16:01.920 regulation,
00:16:02.760 for lowering
00:16:03.440 the nanny
00:16:04.420 state control
00:16:05.380 of big government,
00:16:06.160 and if we
00:16:06.640 get that
00:16:07.060 done,
00:16:07.420 that's a
00:16:07.880 huge
00:16:08.240 victory.
00:16:09.180 I'll tell
00:16:09.500 you,
00:16:09.680 Russ Vogt
00:16:10.700 taking over
00:16:11.700 as acting
00:16:12.200 director
00:16:12.640 in the past
00:16:13.160 few days
00:16:13.660 was a major
00:16:14.180 step forward
00:16:14.800 in that regard.
00:16:16.020 Now,
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00:16:16.560 to hear
00:16:16.800 the rest
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00:16:53.780 Now on to
00:16:54.680 story number
00:16:55.260 two.
00:16:56.140 Let's move
00:16:56.980 to another
00:16:57.860 aspect of
00:16:59.100 just an
00:17:00.040 incredible
00:17:00.700 three weeks
00:17:02.160 where Elon
00:17:03.020 Musk and
00:17:03.700 Donald Trump
00:17:04.500 are doing
00:17:05.540 exactly what
00:17:06.560 they said
00:17:06.960 they were
00:17:07.200 going to
00:17:07.400 do.
00:17:08.240 And they
00:17:08.480 are,
00:17:08.800 I think,
00:17:09.400 using the
00:17:10.380 media,
00:17:11.200 the bully
00:17:11.680 pulpit,
00:17:12.500 the microphone
00:17:13.820 that they've
00:17:14.520 been given
00:17:15.060 in the Oval
00:17:16.480 Office to
00:17:17.600 inform the
00:17:18.420 American people,
00:17:19.960 those that
00:17:20.460 voted for
00:17:21.100 him and
00:17:21.900 others that
00:17:22.400 maybe didn't
00:17:23.100 that,
00:17:23.640 hey,
00:17:23.980 we're finding
00:17:25.140 some of the 0.95
00:17:25.680 most ridiculous, 0.99
00:17:27.020 egregious 1.00
00:17:28.240 waste of your
00:17:29.740 tax dollars.
00:17:30.460 And one of the
00:17:31.200 stories I talked
00:17:31.840 about was people
00:17:32.840 that are still
00:17:33.380 getting Social
00:17:33.820 Security checks
00:17:34.480 when they're
00:17:34.920 quote,
00:17:35.260 150 years
00:17:36.320 old.
00:17:37.120 Yeah,
00:17:37.660 it was really
00:17:38.160 powerful.
00:17:38.800 So President
00:17:39.180 Trump and
00:17:39.620 Elon Musk
00:17:40.180 did a press
00:17:41.220 conference from
00:17:41.900 the Oval
00:17:42.320 Office on
00:17:42.960 Thursday.
00:17:44.080 Earlier this
00:17:44.660 week,
00:17:44.960 President Trump
00:17:45.540 signed an
00:17:45.960 executive order
00:17:46.800 instructing Doge
00:17:48.320 to coordinate
00:17:48.840 with federal
00:17:49.320 agencies and
00:17:50.660 to execute
00:17:51.380 massive cuts
00:17:52.240 in federal
00:17:52.900 government
00:17:53.220 staffing numbers.
00:17:54.300 And the
00:17:54.680 order instructs
00:17:56.000 federal agencies
00:17:56.800 and Doge to
00:17:57.620 significantly
00:17:58.200 shrink the
00:17:58.780 size of the
00:17:59.200 federal government
00:17:59.800 and to limit
00:18:00.420 the hiring
00:18:01.060 of new
00:18:01.980 employees.
00:18:02.860 And I've
00:18:03.200 got to say,
00:18:04.100 Elon Musk
00:18:04.760 laid out
00:18:05.660 several of
00:18:06.580 the egregious
00:18:07.900 examples of
00:18:08.840 abuse.
00:18:09.640 Listen to
00:18:10.240 this first
00:18:11.260 one.
00:18:12.020 You know,
00:18:12.600 there's crazy
00:18:13.120 things like
00:18:13.520 just cross
00:18:14.840 re-examination
00:18:15.480 of Social
00:18:16.100 Security,
00:18:17.040 and we've
00:18:17.320 got people
00:18:17.640 in there
00:18:17.900 that are
00:18:18.100 150 years
00:18:18.860 old.
00:18:20.180 Now,
00:18:20.360 do you know
00:18:20.820 anyone who
00:18:21.660 is 150?
00:18:22.440 I don't know.
00:18:22.960 Okay.
00:18:24.260 They should be
00:18:25.020 on the
00:18:25.180 Guinness Book
00:18:25.480 of World
00:18:25.720 Records.
00:18:26.440 They're
00:18:26.600 missing out.
00:18:27.020 So,
00:18:29.400 you know,
00:18:30.260 that's the
00:18:30.520 case where
00:18:30.840 I think
00:18:31.240 they're
00:18:31.400 probably 0.90
00:18:31.620 dead.
00:18:32.160 It's my
00:18:32.440 guess.
00:18:33.640 Or they
00:18:34.420 should be
00:18:34.620 very famous.
00:18:35.140 One of the
00:18:35.420 two.
00:18:36.160 I mean,
00:18:36.540 I want to
00:18:36.900 meet them.
00:18:37.340 Elon wants
00:18:37.920 to meet
00:18:38.060 them.
00:18:38.180 The president
00:18:38.640 wants to
00:18:39.000 meet them.
00:18:39.200 You want
00:18:39.600 to meet
00:18:39.800 them,
00:18:39.920 right?
00:18:40.140 If you're
00:18:40.440 150 and
00:18:41.240 you're still
00:18:41.560 cashing
00:18:41.920 that check.
00:18:42.280 Ben,
00:18:42.720 I got to
00:18:43.460 say,
00:18:43.840 you don't
00:18:44.380 look a day
00:18:44.860 over 140.
00:18:47.060 I mean,
00:18:47.660 and this is
00:18:48.160 the stuff
00:18:48.540 that you just
00:18:49.480 can't even
00:18:50.000 make it up.
00:18:50.660 Of course,
00:18:51.220 they would be
00:18:51.620 sending a
00:18:52.040 check to
00:18:52.880 somebody that
00:18:53.520 we assume
00:18:54.220 is committing
00:18:55.300 fraud here,
00:18:56.100 right?
00:18:56.360 Like,
00:18:56.660 the checks
00:18:57.140 never stopped
00:18:57.800 and they're
00:18:58.020 like,
00:18:58.160 well,
00:18:58.240 just keep
00:18:58.640 cashing
00:18:59.120 them.
00:18:59.400 Of course,
00:19:00.600 it's fraud.
00:19:01.540 Of course,
00:19:02.160 it's fraud.
00:19:02.900 And the
00:19:03.260 Biden
00:19:03.560 administration
00:19:04.300 had no
00:19:05.280 interest in
00:19:05.880 uncovering
00:19:06.620 that fraud.
00:19:07.240 And take a
00:19:07.880 listen to what
00:19:08.260 President Trump
00:19:08.840 said about
00:19:09.280 the magnitude
00:19:10.020 of the
00:19:10.880 waste,
00:19:11.200 fraud,
00:19:11.400 and abuse
00:19:11.740 that they're
00:19:12.020 finding.
00:19:13.200 Billions and
00:19:13.840 billions of
00:19:14.400 dollars in
00:19:15.040 waste,
00:19:15.780 fraud,
00:19:16.200 and abuse.
00:19:17.720 And I
00:19:19.060 think it's
00:19:19.300 very important.
00:19:19.920 And that's
00:19:20.160 one of the
00:19:20.740 reasons I got
00:19:21.320 elected.
00:19:21.780 I say,
00:19:22.040 we're going
00:19:22.320 to do
00:19:22.540 that.
00:19:23.360 Nobody had
00:19:24.020 any idea
00:19:24.460 it was that
00:19:24.880 bad,
00:19:25.280 that sick, 0.93
00:19:25.880 and that 1.00
00:19:26.280 corrupt. 0.99
00:19:27.480 And it 0.74
00:19:27.820 seems hard
00:19:28.260 to believe
00:19:28.700 that judges
00:19:29.520 want to try
00:19:30.080 and stop
00:19:30.560 us from
00:19:31.060 looking for
00:19:31.700 corruption,
00:19:32.360 especially
00:19:32.780 when we
00:19:33.220 found hundreds
00:19:34.680 of millions
00:19:35.220 of dollars
00:19:35.840 worth,
00:19:36.360 much more
00:19:36.760 than that,
00:19:37.820 in just a
00:19:38.400 short period
00:19:38.860 of time.
00:19:39.520 We want to
00:19:39.980 weed out
00:19:40.320 the corruption.
00:19:41.680 And it
00:19:42.020 seems hard
00:19:42.440 to believe
00:19:42.820 that a judge
00:19:43.420 could say,
00:19:44.040 we don't
00:19:44.540 want you
00:19:44.860 to do
00:19:45.140 that.
00:19:46.620 So maybe
00:19:47.360 we have
00:19:47.620 to look
00:19:48.460 at the
00:19:48.740 judges,
00:19:49.200 because that's
00:19:49.760 a very
00:19:50.160 serious,
00:19:50.680 I think it's
00:19:51.100 a very
00:19:52.040 violation.
00:19:52.900 He mentions
00:19:53.560 the judges
00:19:53.980 there,
00:19:54.200 by the way,
00:19:54.540 there's a lot
00:19:55.120 of activist
00:19:55.760 judges that
00:19:56.520 were put
00:19:57.000 in by
00:19:57.720 liberals who
00:19:58.740 are like,
00:19:59.220 all right,
00:19:59.560 we're the
00:19:59.860 last defense
00:20:00.660 here,
00:20:01.000 so let's
00:20:01.440 try to
00:20:01.780 stop him
00:20:02.880 at all
00:20:03.160 costs,
00:20:04.260 because he's
00:20:05.560 too successful
00:20:06.320 at giving
00:20:06.960 the American
00:20:07.500 people transparency
00:20:08.720 and their
00:20:09.780 money back.
00:20:10.760 Look,
00:20:11.240 Barack Obama
00:20:11.940 and Joe
00:20:12.360 Biden put a
00:20:13.040 lot of
00:20:13.280 radicals on
00:20:14.080 the federal
00:20:14.480 bench,
00:20:14.940 and right
00:20:15.600 now you've
00:20:16.120 got Democrat
00:20:16.780 attorneys
00:20:17.220 general going
00:20:18.680 and seeking
00:20:19.140 out these
00:20:19.640 radicals to
00:20:20.300 file lawsuits.
00:20:21.100 You've also
00:20:21.440 got left
00:20:21.920 wing special
00:20:23.040 interest groups
00:20:23.780 seeking out
00:20:24.660 these radical
00:20:25.200 judges.
00:20:25.840 We're going
00:20:26.280 to see a lot
00:20:26.960 of lawsuits,
00:20:27.580 we're going
00:20:27.740 to see a lot
00:20:28.200 of lawfare
00:20:28.740 over the
00:20:29.060 next four
00:20:29.520 years,
00:20:30.020 but I've
00:20:30.780 got to say,
00:20:31.400 watching Democrats
00:20:32.760 in the media
00:20:33.300 melt down,
00:20:33.960 number one,
00:20:34.420 they've always
00:20:34.840 melted down over
00:20:35.620 Trump,
00:20:35.960 they have
00:20:36.200 Trump derangement 0.94
00:20:36.980 syndrome,
00:20:37.720 but they also
00:20:38.200 have Elon
00:20:38.680 derangement
00:20:39.280 syndrome,
00:20:39.580 and they
00:20:39.960 scream, 0.99
00:20:40.980 well,
00:20:41.080 Elon Musk
00:20:41.780 was not
00:20:42.200 elected to
00:20:42.760 anything.
00:20:43.900 Well,
00:20:44.320 yeah,
00:20:44.500 that's true,
00:20:45.200 but Donald
00:20:45.900 Trump was
00:20:47.320 elected to
00:20:48.080 something,
00:20:48.460 he was elected
00:20:48.940 to President
00:20:49.460 of the United
00:20:49.940 States,
00:20:50.340 and he was
00:20:50.940 elected on
00:20:51.480 a mandate,
00:20:52.320 and this is
00:20:52.980 actually a point
00:20:53.720 that Elon
00:20:54.960 made quite
00:20:56.320 effectively in
00:20:57.020 the Oval,
00:20:57.580 give a listen.
00:20:58.300 The people
00:20:58.900 voted for
00:21:00.500 major government
00:21:01.400 reform,
00:21:02.600 there should be
00:21:03.220 no doubt
00:21:03.600 about that,
00:21:04.160 that was on
00:21:05.200 the campaign,
00:21:06.200 the president
00:21:06.620 spoke about
00:21:07.160 that at
00:21:07.860 every rally,
00:21:08.680 the people
00:21:09.040 voted for
00:21:09.500 major government
00:21:10.400 reform,
00:21:11.320 and that's
00:21:11.720 what people
00:21:12.040 are going
00:21:12.220 to get,
00:21:12.560 they're going
00:21:12.760 to get what
00:21:13.180 they voted
00:21:13.540 for,
00:21:14.840 and a lot
00:21:15.280 of times
00:21:15.580 people don't
00:21:16.460 get what
00:21:17.580 they voted
00:21:17.900 for,
00:21:18.380 but in
00:21:18.760 this presidency
00:21:19.400 they are
00:21:20.200 going to
00:21:20.420 get what
00:21:20.700 they voted
00:21:21.020 for,
00:21:21.400 and that's
00:21:22.040 what democracy
00:21:22.640 is all
00:21:22.900 about.
00:21:23.860 I gotta say,
00:21:24.820 I love
00:21:25.280 listening to
00:21:25.760 Elon,
00:21:26.100 you spent a
00:21:26.720 lot of time
00:21:27.160 with him,
00:21:28.040 I think this
00:21:28.940 is a perfect
00:21:29.460 example of
00:21:30.080 just how
00:21:30.540 genuine his
00:21:31.400 heart is on
00:21:31.980 this,
00:21:32.740 he truly is
00:21:34.180 a believer
00:21:34.740 in this
00:21:35.260 country,
00:21:35.960 and giving
00:21:36.460 the American
00:21:37.020 people what
00:21:37.480 they voted
00:21:37.840 for,
00:21:38.520 and he is
00:21:39.120 an agent
00:21:39.760 to go find
00:21:40.820 the waste,
00:21:41.340 fraud,
00:21:41.520 and abuse,
00:21:42.040 and he's
00:21:42.980 incredibly focused
00:21:44.340 on it.
00:21:44.780 He is
00:21:45.480 incredibly
00:21:46.280 focused,
00:21:46.960 and he's
00:21:47.180 right,
00:21:47.480 this is
00:21:47.880 democracy,
00:21:49.000 and yet
00:21:49.540 it is
00:21:49.940 causing
00:21:50.360 the radical
00:21:50.940 left to
00:21:51.540 lose their
00:21:52.120 minds.
00:21:52.740 I gotta say,
00:21:53.880 I wanna play
00:21:55.360 this segment
00:21:56.380 from CNN
00:21:57.020 because it
00:21:57.660 really does
00:21:58.260 show how
00:21:58.760 the media,
00:21:59.800 their minds
00:22:01.160 are melting
00:22:01.600 down.
00:22:02.220 You had
00:22:02.800 former New
00:22:03.280 Hampshire
00:22:03.520 Governor
00:22:03.900 Chris Sununu
00:22:04.820 who's on
00:22:06.420 and he's on
00:22:06.880 with Anderson
00:22:07.400 Cooper,
00:22:07.860 and Anderson
00:22:08.220 Cooper
00:22:08.560 loses it,
00:22:09.240 and you've
00:22:09.420 also got
00:22:09.820 Jeffrey Toobin,
00:22:11.180 another left-wing
00:22:12.240 CNN contributor.
00:22:13.380 You're old
00:22:13.860 buddies,
00:22:14.140 these are
00:22:14.460 all the
00:22:14.760 folks you
00:22:15.140 piled around
00:22:15.640 with,
00:22:15.960 Ben.
00:22:17.220 I did my
00:22:17.760 seven years
00:22:18.380 in hell, 0.96
00:22:18.980 seven years 0.87
00:22:19.480 in hell. 0.66
00:22:20.120 Do you have 0.88
00:22:20.820 CNN tattooed
00:22:21.800 somewhere on
00:22:22.200 your body?
00:22:22.620 I do not,
00:22:23.700 I do not,
00:22:24.700 I'm sure,
00:22:25.020 just checking.
00:22:26.700 So,
00:22:26.940 so,
00:22:27.140 so,
00:22:27.280 so,
00:22:27.500 all right,
00:22:27.800 give a listen
00:22:28.340 to Chris Sununu
00:22:29.100 and,
00:22:29.480 and,
00:22:29.800 and,
00:22:29.960 and look how
00:22:30.540 he,
00:22:30.860 how he causes
00:22:31.660 the CNN
00:22:32.580 folks to
00:22:33.160 lose their 0.64
00:22:33.460 minds.
00:22:34.600 It was
00:22:35.380 surreal,
00:22:35.820 but I gotta
00:22:36.160 tell you,
00:22:36.640 I know what
00:22:37.240 you're not
00:22:37.520 showing here.
00:22:38.100 Musk gave 1.00
00:22:38.520 seven specific
00:22:39.600 examples off
00:22:40.520 the top of
00:22:41.060 his head
00:22:41.460 of where the
00:22:42.100 corruption and
00:22:42.660 fraud were.
00:22:43.240 I know you
00:22:43.500 don't,
00:22:43.720 you didn't play
00:22:44.020 the clips.
00:22:44.540 He was talking
00:22:44.900 about a
00:22:45.260 contractor that
00:22:45.980 had a three
00:22:46.400 month contract.
00:22:47.260 He was paid
00:22:47.700 for 20 years.
00:22:48.500 He was talking
00:22:48.900 about welfare
00:22:49.440 benefits that
00:22:49.980 were being
00:22:50.280 paid to
00:22:50.600 someone that
00:22:51.140 was technically
00:22:51.560 150 years old.
00:22:52.920 He was talking
00:22:53.240 about line items
00:22:54.320 that had no
00:22:55.400 justification.
00:22:55.780 He doesn't
00:22:57.160 present any
00:22:57.520 actual evidence.
00:22:58.100 He's standing
00:22:58.620 there in the
00:22:59.300 Oval Office.
00:22:59.880 Do you expect
00:23:00.180 him to come
00:23:00.520 in with
00:23:00.880 10,000 pages?
00:23:02.240 And I have
00:23:02.820 to be clear,
00:23:03.760 to complain
00:23:04.320 about this
00:23:04.800 administration
00:23:05.260 about transparency
00:23:06.120 when this
00:23:06.960 president takes
00:23:07.480 open questions
00:23:08.300 on a daily
00:23:08.980 basis,
00:23:09.780 yet Joe
00:23:10.120 Biden didn't
00:23:10.600 show up for
00:23:10.920 a press
00:23:11.200 conference
00:23:11.520 since six
00:23:11.920 months,
00:23:12.380 is insane.
00:23:13.320 These guys
00:23:13.740 are being
00:23:14.020 extremely
00:23:14.780 transparent.
00:23:15.660 They don't
00:23:15.900 have to sit
00:23:16.300 there and
00:23:16.540 take the
00:23:16.780 questions,
00:23:17.140 but they do.
00:23:17.860 It's all
00:23:18.380 on the
00:23:18.600 website.
00:23:19.040 It's all
00:23:19.320 out there.
00:23:19.860 It's not
00:23:20.300 transparency to
00:23:22.020 say things that
00:23:23.440 have no
00:23:24.040 factual background.
00:23:25.200 To say we're
00:23:26.100 cutting,
00:23:26.880 we've found
00:23:27.480 a billion dollars
00:23:28.300 or a trillion
00:23:28.960 dollars in waste
00:23:29.880 with no
00:23:30.640 specifics,
00:23:31.320 that's just
00:23:31.860 talk.
00:23:32.680 That's not
00:23:33.060 transparency.
00:23:33.900 It's 23 days
00:23:34.820 in here,
00:23:35.300 guys.
00:23:35.720 23 days.
00:23:36.520 You were
00:23:37.160 talking about
00:23:37.540 2.3 billion
00:23:38.540 that was saved
00:23:39.120 last year.
00:23:39.700 These guys are
00:23:40.180 saving 2.3
00:23:40.880 billion a day.
00:23:42.640 It's incredible.
00:23:43.640 That's what
00:23:43.900 they're saying.
00:23:45.400 But where's
00:23:46.000 the proof?
00:23:46.660 You're not
00:23:47.760 going to be
00:23:48.100 satisfied until
00:23:48.720 he shows up
00:23:49.160 with 10,000
00:23:49.680 pages.
00:23:52.620 He's giving
00:23:53.220 very specific
00:23:53.880 things,
00:23:54.500 but he's not
00:23:55.180 actually giving
00:23:55.720 any evidence
00:23:56.380 of that.
00:23:57.040 It's all
00:23:57.640 going to come
00:23:58.000 because what
00:23:58.440 they also said
00:23:59.120 was if we
00:23:59.800 have to go to
00:24:00.200 Congress,
00:24:00.520 we'll go to
00:24:00.800 Congress.
00:24:01.240 We'll show
00:24:01.860 where it is.
00:24:02.160 Some of the
00:24:02.520 details that
00:24:03.020 have come out,
00:24:03.920 like the $59
00:24:05.760 million spent on
00:24:07.340 luxury hotels,
00:24:08.800 it's actually
00:24:09.340 not...
00:24:10.360 You're talking
00:24:10.540 about the FEMA
00:24:11.000 money that was
00:24:11.500 abused for
00:24:11.980 migrants? 0.86
00:24:12.480 That was FEMA 0.94
00:24:13.820 money for
00:24:14.280 migrants? 0.86
00:24:14.660 That's okay
00:24:15.140 now?
00:24:15.420 No, I'm
00:24:15.900 not saying it's
00:24:17.520 okay.
00:24:17.860 Don't put words
00:24:18.300 in my mouth.
00:24:18.520 Would you stop
00:24:19.180 that?
00:24:19.520 Would you stop
00:24:20.140 that process?
00:24:20.960 Don't be a 1.00
00:24:21.520 dick. 1.00
00:24:21.680 What I'm 0.87
00:24:22.960 saying is the
00:24:23.620 portrayal by
00:24:24.960 him is...
00:24:26.020 I just got to
00:24:27.120 say, this is
00:24:28.540 from my seven
00:24:29.960 years in hell
00:24:30.640 at CNN.
00:24:31.640 When the hosts
00:24:32.620 start cursing at
00:24:33.720 you, Don
00:24:34.300 Lemon lost it
00:24:35.120 on me one
00:24:35.600 night, screaming
00:24:36.300 that is BS,
00:24:37.760 that is BS, but
00:24:38.440 saying the full
00:24:38.960 thing.
00:24:39.460 When you see
00:24:40.280 Anderson Cooper
00:24:41.020 get rattled like
00:24:41.920 this, this is
00:24:42.680 when you know
00:24:43.240 they're losing
00:24:44.260 America and
00:24:45.560 they feel it and
00:24:46.380 they're witnessing
00:24:46.940 it because they're
00:24:48.240 part of this
00:24:48.920 cover-up center
00:24:49.720 and now they
00:24:50.720 realize how 1.00
00:24:51.540 stupid their 1.00
00:24:52.300 argument is that 1.00
00:24:53.000 well, we didn't
00:24:53.620 see a piece of
00:24:54.240 paper with it on
00:24:54.900 there.
00:24:55.360 What, you think
00:24:55.960 Elon Musk is
00:24:56.600 sitting there
00:24:56.960 making this up
00:24:57.620 in the Oval
00:24:58.040 Office?
00:24:58.460 Like, what's
00:24:58.860 wrong with you
00:24:59.320 guys?
00:24:59.520 And by the
00:24:59.780 way, you
00:25:00.060 guys never
00:25:00.780 questioned
00:25:01.300 anything that
00:25:02.460 was shady with
00:25:03.300 the Biden
00:25:03.660 administration when
00:25:04.500 you knew it
00:25:04.880 was shady.
00:25:05.900 Yeah, look,
00:25:06.660 number one, you
00:25:07.360 see Jeffrey
00:25:07.820 Toobin jumping
00:25:08.460 in, screaming,
00:25:09.180 that's not
00:25:09.560 transparency.
00:25:10.720 Trump is
00:25:11.060 literally doing
00:25:11.560 a press
00:25:11.880 conference every
00:25:12.500 day.
00:25:12.800 They're putting
00:25:13.120 all of this
00:25:13.740 out for everyone
00:25:14.360 to see.
00:25:14.760 They're giving
00:25:15.340 chapter and
00:25:16.420 verse and
00:25:16.900 specifics.
00:25:17.780 And you see
00:25:19.220 Anderson Cooper
00:25:19.820 at the end
00:25:20.360 where he just
00:25:20.920 curses and
00:25:22.300 melts down and 0.97
00:25:24.120 insults a
00:25:26.340 former governor
00:25:26.860 by the way.
00:25:27.900 Yeah, I mean,
00:25:28.620 to be clear,
00:25:30.460 that is, the
00:25:32.600 reason Anderson
00:25:33.400 Cooper does that
00:25:34.220 is he realizes
00:25:35.080 he's in a
00:25:35.740 completely
00:25:36.240 indefensible
00:25:36.860 position.
00:25:37.480 He's defending
00:25:38.240 the prior
00:25:39.600 administration,
00:25:40.680 diverting funds
00:25:41.480 from FEMA.
00:25:42.100 By the way,
00:25:42.860 funds that FEMA
00:25:43.560 are supposed to
00:25:44.300 use to
00:25:44.740 deal with a
00:25:45.160 natural disaster,
00:25:46.240 whether wildfires
00:25:47.380 in California
00:25:48.200 or a hurricane
00:25:48.980 or tornadoes
00:25:49.720 or other
00:25:49.980 natural disaster.
00:25:51.440 And the
00:25:52.100 prior administration
00:25:53.200 took those
00:25:53.860 disaster funds
00:25:54.700 and instead
00:25:55.480 used them to
00:25:56.100 pay for hotel
00:25:56.820 rooms for
00:25:57.340 illegal aliens.
00:25:58.240 And Anderson
00:25:58.900 Cooper realized,
00:25:59.740 wait a second,
00:26:00.240 I'm defending
00:26:00.740 something that
00:26:01.300 is so absurd
00:26:02.280 that even the
00:26:04.400 four viewers
00:26:05.040 who are watching
00:26:05.620 CNN are going
00:26:06.440 to know it's
00:26:06.940 absurd, and 0.93
00:26:07.820 that's why he 0.96
00:26:08.400 melts down.
00:26:09.560 And I got to
00:26:10.360 say, the fact
00:26:12.120 that President
00:26:12.900 Trump is
00:26:13.620 standing up,
00:26:14.500 and delivering
00:26:15.600 real cuts
00:26:16.920 that is taking
00:26:18.020 on this waste
00:26:18.840 fraud and abuse,
00:26:20.140 the fact that
00:26:21.620 Anderson Cooper
00:26:22.360 is melting down,
00:26:23.280 that shows
00:26:23.760 President Trump
00:26:24.500 is winning,
00:26:25.640 that shows
00:26:26.180 Elon Musk
00:26:26.820 is winning,
00:26:27.540 and that shows
00:26:28.340 the American
00:26:28.740 people are
00:26:29.200 winning.
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00:27:09.860 I want to get
00:27:10.680 back to the
00:27:11.340 big story,
00:27:12.300 number three of
00:27:12.860 the week you
00:27:13.300 may have
00:27:13.580 missed.
00:27:14.280 I want to
00:27:14.640 move to
00:27:15.140 USAID and
00:27:17.560 some of the
00:27:18.620 big issues
00:27:19.520 that are now
00:27:20.040 coming out of
00:27:20.900 that.
00:27:21.760 And it deals
00:27:22.320 also with the
00:27:23.300 issue of
00:27:23.720 terrorism.
00:27:24.820 We got some
00:27:25.340 shocking
00:27:25.940 news that
00:27:26.740 has come
00:27:27.120 out.
00:27:27.500 It's
00:27:27.840 something,
00:27:28.240 by the
00:27:28.380 way,
00:27:28.660 that I
00:27:28.880 think we
00:27:29.280 need to
00:27:29.600 point out
00:27:30.120 very clearly.
00:27:30.860 You had
00:27:31.400 been talking
00:27:32.020 about this
00:27:32.640 now for
00:27:33.300 several years
00:27:34.120 in Congress
00:27:35.240 and on this
00:27:36.140 show.
00:27:37.040 And thank
00:27:37.840 goodness now
00:27:38.940 at least all
00:27:40.180 of it seems
00:27:40.820 to be being
00:27:41.340 exposed because
00:27:42.500 of the digging
00:27:43.180 with Doge and
00:27:43.900 the Trump
00:27:44.240 administration back
00:27:45.100 in office.
00:27:45.780 Well, there
00:27:46.440 was a lengthy
00:27:46.880 tweet that I
00:27:47.520 sent this week
00:27:48.260 that said the
00:27:49.140 following.
00:27:49.880 The full story
00:27:50.520 of USAID
00:27:51.420 funding Hamas
00:27:52.540 is vast and
00:27:54.080 much of it
00:27:54.660 was done in
00:27:55.500 secret.
00:27:56.520 Before and
00:27:57.000 after October
00:27:57.680 7th, the
00:27:58.320 USAID
00:27:59.040 flowed
00:27:59.660 unaccountable
00:28:00.400 hundreds of
00:28:01.200 millions of
00:28:01.660 dollars towards
00:28:02.340 Hamas that
00:28:03.580 enabled it to
00:28:04.400 launch the
00:28:04.900 attack and
00:28:05.600 keep battling
00:28:06.320 Israel afterwards.
00:28:08.020 They lied
00:28:08.780 about the
00:28:09.160 nature of
00:28:09.580 that aid in
00:28:10.140 public
00:28:10.420 databases,
00:28:11.920 refused to
00:28:12.680 disclose what
00:28:13.520 groups were
00:28:14.080 getting the
00:28:14.480 money, and
00:28:15.600 gave tens of
00:28:16.600 millions in
00:28:17.120 American cash
00:28:17.940 to be
00:28:18.220 distributed
00:28:18.740 without
00:28:19.720 American
00:28:20.420 supervision.
00:28:21.100 They
00:28:22.240 internally
00:28:22.840 admitted the
00:28:24.120 aid would
00:28:24.560 benefit Hamas 0.94
00:28:25.440 and even
00:28:26.700 exempted
00:28:27.380 themselves from
00:28:28.040 anti-terrorism
00:28:28.960 laws, but
00:28:30.220 in public
00:28:30.880 issued
00:28:31.880 denials.
00:28:33.040 For all
00:28:34.000 four years of
00:28:34.900 the Biden
00:28:35.240 administration, I
00:28:36.540 prevented them
00:28:37.320 from confirming a
00:28:38.320 Middle East
00:28:38.780 administrator because
00:28:40.400 they wouldn't
00:28:41.080 acknowledge what
00:28:41.800 they were doing
00:28:42.480 because continuing
00:28:44.160 their secret
00:28:45.120 pro-Hamas 0.85
00:28:45.840 programs was
00:28:47.380 more important
00:28:48.020 to them.
00:28:49.520 And I'll
00:28:50.220 tell you, there
00:28:50.720 was a major
00:28:52.160 article in the
00:28:52.880 Washington Free
00:28:53.540 Beacon that I
00:28:55.120 tweeted out as
00:28:55.860 well, and it's
00:28:56.680 an article my
00:28:57.320 team and I
00:28:57.980 provided a
00:28:59.040 significant amount
00:28:59.720 of the
00:28:59.940 information to
00:29:00.800 the Washington
00:29:01.320 Free Beacon,
00:29:02.080 but it's
00:29:02.620 entitled,
00:29:03.880 At USAID,
00:29:05.700 funding for
00:29:06.340 terror-tied
00:29:06.940 groups and
00:29:07.960 internal
00:29:08.440 hostility towards
00:29:09.540 Israel goes 1.00
00:29:10.980 back years.
00:29:12.700 One former
00:29:13.280 State Department
00:29:13.880 official described
00:29:15.040 a lack of
00:29:16.100 embarrassment
00:29:16.780 among some
00:29:18.380 USAID staffers
00:29:19.980 about being
00:29:21.100 associated with
00:29:22.460 terrorist
00:29:22.860 organizations.
00:29:24.060 And I'm
00:29:24.340 going to read
00:29:24.740 from the
00:29:25.100 beginning of
00:29:25.460 this article
00:29:25.940 because it's
00:29:26.440 an important
00:29:26.880 article and
00:29:27.400 the facts in
00:29:27.980 it are very
00:29:28.460 disturbing.
00:29:29.500 As the
00:29:29.840 Trump
00:29:30.060 administration
00:29:30.640 works to
00:29:31.220 shutter the
00:29:31.700 United States
00:29:33.240 Agency for
00:29:33.920 International
00:29:34.360 Development,
00:29:35.080 USAID,
00:29:36.500 current and
00:29:37.000 former U.S.
00:29:37.680 officials who
00:29:38.160 work closely
00:29:38.740 with the
00:29:39.080 embattled aid
00:29:39.720 group say
00:29:40.740 they watched
00:29:41.340 for years as
00:29:42.800 it funneled
00:29:43.460 millions of
00:29:44.160 dollars to
00:29:44.760 anti-Israel
00:29:45.600 advocacy groups
00:29:46.680 and entities
00:29:47.860 linked to
00:29:48.440 terrorism.
00:29:49.440 That funding
00:29:49.980 caused internal
00:29:50.780 friction across
00:29:51.560 multiple
00:29:52.040 administrations
00:29:52.920 according to
00:29:53.960 those who
00:29:54.400 spoke with
00:29:54.960 the Washington
00:29:55.460 Free Beacon.
00:29:56.460 In some
00:29:56.800 cases USAID
00:29:58.660 fought to
00:29:59.240 conceal how
00:29:59.920 taxpayer funds
00:30:00.780 were spent.
00:30:01.660 And when it
00:30:01.920 came to
00:30:02.260 Israel officials
00:30:03.620 recalled battling
00:30:04.640 USAID over
00:30:05.960 funding for
00:30:06.620 groups that
00:30:07.680 worked to
00:30:08.300 undermine the
00:30:08.980 Jewish state
00:30:09.640 or maintain
00:30:10.560 ties to
00:30:11.360 terror
00:30:11.660 organizations.
00:30:12.940 Quote,
00:30:13.460 for those who
00:30:14.020 believe in a
00:30:14.540 strong U.S.-Israel
00:30:15.560 relationship,
00:30:16.880 elements of
00:30:17.440 USAID had
00:30:18.520 been problematic
00:30:19.120 for years,
00:30:20.120 said one
00:30:20.660 former State
00:30:21.280 Department
00:30:21.640 official who
00:30:22.740 worked with
00:30:23.220 USAID during
00:30:24.620 the Biden
00:30:25.100 administration.
00:30:26.060 Quote,
00:30:26.760 there was even
00:30:27.620 a lack of
00:30:28.240 embarrassment
00:30:28.740 among some
00:30:29.440 USAID
00:30:30.180 staffers about
00:30:31.560 being associated
00:30:32.540 with terrorist
00:30:33.260 organizations.
00:30:34.780 Some of the
00:30:35.200 terror-tied funding
00:30:36.080 initiatives are
00:30:36.760 publicly known.
00:30:37.960 In November
00:30:38.340 2022, for
00:30:39.400 instance,
00:30:40.500 USAID awarded
00:30:41.860 $100,000 to a
00:30:43.640 Palestinian activist
00:30:44.800 group whose
00:30:45.900 leaders hailed the
00:30:48.280 Popular Front for
00:30:49.500 the Liberation of
00:30:50.360 Palestine, a 0.97
00:30:51.940 designated terror
00:30:53.000 group.
00:30:53.760 Just six days
00:30:55.640 before Hamas' 0.96
00:30:57.320 October 7th
00:30:58.280 assault on
00:30:58.820 Israel, USAID
00:31:00.640 handed $900,000
00:31:02.540 to a terror
00:31:04.520 charity in
00:31:06.760 Gaza involved
00:31:08.640 with the son
00:31:09.560 of Hamas
00:31:10.160 leader Ismail
00:31:11.240 Hanaye.
00:31:11.740 USAID's
00:31:13.420 hostilities
00:31:13.980 towards the
00:31:14.500 Jewish state,
00:31:15.180 however, ran
00:31:16.480 deeper than
00:31:17.560 the agency's
00:31:18.260 grant-making.
00:31:19.260 Under Samantha
00:31:19.820 Power, former
00:31:20.600 President Joe
00:31:21.520 Biden's pick to
00:31:22.520 run USAID,
00:31:24.580 agency officials
00:31:25.460 fought pro-Israel
00:31:26.800 policymaking at
00:31:27.860 the State
00:31:28.220 Department, often
00:31:29.860 urging their
00:31:30.480 colleagues at
00:31:31.060 Foggy Bottom to
00:31:32.000 pare down
00:31:32.460 statements that
00:31:33.320 praised the
00:31:34.080 Jewish state,
00:31:35.380 former officials
00:31:36.000 said.
00:31:36.680 In 2021, during
00:31:38.100 a period of
00:31:38.680 conflict with
00:31:39.260 Hamas, Power
00:31:40.800 herself refused
00:31:42.020 to meet with
00:31:43.020 Israel's 0.75
00:31:43.580 ambassador unless
00:31:45.240 Israel reached a 0.78
00:31:46.460 ceasefire with
00:31:47.960 the Iran-backed
00:31:49.180 terror group.
00:31:50.180 The decision put
00:31:51.020 Power at odds
00:31:51.900 with the White
00:31:52.420 House National
00:31:53.020 Security Council,
00:31:54.740 which signed
00:31:55.620 off on the
00:31:56.300 meeting, emails
00:31:57.100 obtained by the
00:31:57.960 Free Beacon
00:31:58.460 show.
00:31:59.200 It is shocking
00:32:00.680 to hear you read
00:32:01.960 that, and yet
00:32:02.760 it's so well
00:32:03.860 documented.
00:32:05.160 It's something
00:32:05.780 that you've been
00:32:06.300 sounding the alarm
00:32:06.920 on for a while.
00:32:07.800 Now, because of a
00:32:08.660 new administration,
00:32:09.300 we're actually
00:32:09.780 getting some
00:32:10.280 movement on
00:32:10.900 this, but how
00:32:13.220 angry should
00:32:14.080 Americans be that
00:32:15.480 their tax dollars
00:32:16.420 have been going to
00:32:18.260 terrorist organizations
00:32:20.120 through these
00:32:20.880 funnel, through
00:32:21.700 these charities
00:32:22.700 and other groups,
00:32:24.380 and there were
00:32:25.140 warnings, meaning
00:32:25.960 that the
00:32:26.540 government, Biden
00:32:27.480 and Harris and
00:32:28.040 their team, they
00:32:29.340 knew the money was
00:32:30.320 ending up with
00:32:30.920 these people.
00:32:31.500 This wasn't a
00:32:32.120 one-off, this
00:32:32.760 wasn't an accident,
00:32:33.760 this was deliberate.
00:32:35.480 Well, they knew it
00:32:36.180 and they actively
00:32:36.960 hit it.
00:32:37.520 Let me read a
00:32:38.320 little more from
00:32:38.900 this Free Beacon
00:32:39.460 article.
00:32:40.160 A January memo
00:32:41.080 from Inspector
00:32:41.900 General Paul
00:32:42.600 Martin noted
00:32:44.020 that the agency
00:32:44.980 quote, does not
00:32:46.080 maintain a
00:32:46.900 comprehensive internal
00:32:47.980 database of
00:32:49.440 sub-awardees.
00:32:51.540 In other words,
00:32:52.300 the foreign 0.60
00:32:52.680 entities that
00:32:53.400 work with a
00:32:54.160 primary grantee
00:32:55.280 on a USAID
00:32:56.240 project often
00:32:57.840 go unreported,
00:32:59.620 impeding the
00:33:00.520 ability of the
00:33:01.240 agency investigators
00:33:02.400 to vet fraud
00:33:04.240 allegations,
00:33:05.080 according to the
00:33:05.640 memo.
00:33:05.860 such allegations
00:33:07.620 often include
00:33:08.740 the diversion
00:33:09.320 of taxpayer-funded
00:33:10.420 aid to
00:33:11.520 terrorist
00:33:11.940 organizations.
00:33:13.320 In a November
00:33:14.360 report, for
00:33:15.100 example, Martin
00:33:16.180 quote, identified
00:33:17.780 deliberate
00:33:18.320 interference and
00:33:19.420 efforts to
00:33:20.140 divert humanitarian
00:33:21.280 assistance by
00:33:22.820 foreign terrorist 0.52
00:33:23.880 organizations,
00:33:25.280 including systemic
00:33:27.200 coercion of aid
00:33:28.500 workers by FTOs, 0.74
00:33:30.500 foreign terrorist 0.52
00:33:31.040 organizations, and
00:33:32.160 FTO influence
00:33:34.560 over beneficiary
00:33:36.660 selection, these
00:33:38.220 diversion efforts
00:33:39.060 are particularly
00:33:39.740 pronounced in
00:33:40.980 Hamas-controlled
00:33:41.860 Gaza.
00:33:42.320 A February report
00:33:44.040 from the Middle
00:33:44.920 East Forum
00:33:45.600 think tank found
00:33:46.780 that the USAID
00:33:47.900 had awarded
00:33:49.480 millions of
00:33:50.700 dollars to
00:33:51.960 organizations directly
00:33:53.720 in Gaza
00:33:54.600 controlled by
00:33:55.940 Hamas. 0.73
00:33:56.660 Let me read that 0.84
00:33:57.500 again.
00:33:58.320 A February report
00:33:59.620 from the Middle
00:34:00.760 East Forum
00:34:01.380 think tank found
00:34:02.740 that USAID had
00:34:04.240 awarded millions
00:34:05.580 of federal
00:34:06.540 dollars to
00:34:07.840 organizations
00:34:08.680 directly in
00:34:09.800 Gaza controlled
00:34:11.100 by Hamas.
00:34:12.480 And it
00:34:12.720 continues, in
00:34:14.000 one Biden-eric
00:34:15.080 case, USAID
00:34:16.540 funded an
00:34:17.420 educational and
00:34:18.980 community center
00:34:20.100 in Gaza
00:34:21.140 controlled by
00:34:23.060 a local group
00:34:24.680 called the
00:34:25.940 Unlimited
00:34:26.600 Friends
00:34:27.200 Association.
00:34:28.000 The association
00:34:29.220 openly collaborated
00:34:30.640 with Hamas
00:34:31.340 inviting the
00:34:32.500 terror group's
00:34:33.260 officials to
00:34:33.900 its office
00:34:34.480 and boasting
00:34:36.040 of U.S.-funded
00:34:37.120 projects in
00:34:37.980 Hamas-controlled
00:34:39.100 newspapers.
00:34:40.480 In 2021,
00:34:42.220 its director
00:34:42.940 called for
00:34:43.720 Jerusalem to
00:34:44.640 be cleansed
00:34:45.960 quote,
00:34:47.060 from the
00:34:47.640 impurity
00:34:48.300 of the Jews. 0.99
00:34:50.560 This is who
00:34:51.780 Joe Biden
00:34:52.860 and the
00:34:53.160 Democrats
00:34:53.600 were sending
00:34:54.740 millions of
00:34:55.420 dollars to
00:34:56.120 and this is who
00:34:57.200 they were
00:34:57.480 covering it up.
00:34:58.580 Not only were
00:34:59.080 they covering
00:34:59.620 it up, but
00:35:00.340 this has a
00:35:01.180 USAID has a
00:35:02.800 long history
00:35:03.620 that's now
00:35:04.260 well documented
00:35:05.220 of them
00:35:06.500 helping
00:35:07.780 radicals.
00:35:08.900 And one of
00:35:09.540 the things you
00:35:10.020 and I talked
00:35:10.520 about before
00:35:11.020 the show
00:35:11.580 was another
00:35:12.800 just totally
00:35:13.640 insane aspect
00:35:14.900 of this and
00:35:15.480 that included
00:35:16.080 paying for
00:35:16.920 terrorist
00:35:17.520 college funds.
00:35:19.600 Well, that
00:35:20.080 is exactly
00:35:20.960 right and it
00:35:21.700 is a stunning
00:35:22.720 story.
00:35:23.620 So this is
00:35:24.340 something that's
00:35:24.880 been reported
00:35:25.440 in Fox News
00:35:26.240 and the New
00:35:27.120 York Post.
00:35:27.740 Here's what
00:35:27.980 the New York
00:35:28.300 Post said.
00:35:29.080 USAID
00:35:29.920 reportedly
00:35:30.580 bankrolled
00:35:31.240 Al-Qaeda
00:35:31.820 terrorist
00:35:32.460 college
00:35:33.260 tuition.
00:35:34.700 Unearthed
00:35:35.180 records
00:35:35.560 showed.
00:35:37.400 USAID
00:35:38.320 American
00:35:38.900 board
00:35:39.340 jihadist
00:35:40.120 Anwar
00:35:41.200 Al-Awlaki 0.97
00:35:42.000 received
00:35:43.440 full funding
00:35:44.980 to attend
00:35:46.300 Colorado State
00:35:47.260 University
00:35:47.920 in 1990.
00:35:49.540 USAID
00:35:50.200 documents
00:35:50.800 obtained
00:35:51.100 by Fox
00:35:51.620 News
00:35:51.880 showed.
00:35:53.020 Now who
00:35:53.560 is Anwar
00:35:54.080 Al-Awlaki? 0.99
00:35:54.980 He is a
00:35:55.680 notorious 1.00
00:35:56.280 terrorist,
00:35:57.060 so notorious 0.97
00:35:57.740 that President
00:35:58.980 Barack Obama
00:35:59.840 ordered him 0.99
00:36:00.500 killed in 0.99
00:36:01.960 a U.S.
00:36:02.540 airstrike in
00:36:03.360 Yemen 20
00:36:04.020 years later.
00:36:05.520 The documents
00:36:06.180 revealed that
00:36:06.900 Al-Awlaki,
00:36:08.180 who was born
00:36:08.780 in Las Cruces,
00:36:09.660 New Mexico,
00:36:10.940 lied on his
00:36:11.720 application and
00:36:12.620 claimed that he
00:36:13.280 was born in
00:36:13.880 Yemen,
00:36:14.900 apparently so he
00:36:15.920 would be eligible
00:36:16.720 for the federal
00:36:17.580 tuition funding
00:36:18.720 worth more than
00:36:20.320 $27,000 at the
00:36:22.340 time.
00:36:22.660 That was 1990.
00:36:23.440 tuition and
00:36:24.180 fees for an
00:36:25.180 international
00:36:25.660 student at
00:36:27.380 the university
00:36:28.500 today would be
00:36:29.500 nearly 10
00:36:30.240 times that.
00:36:31.800 Using the
00:36:32.340 education USAID
00:36:33.660 provided him,
00:36:34.980 he earned a
00:36:35.540 bachelor's in
00:36:36.180 civil engineering
00:36:36.940 in 1994.
00:36:38.760 Al-Awlaki would 1.00
00:36:39.480 go on to teach
00:36:40.160 Islam at mosques
00:36:41.220 across the country
00:36:42.140 from Denver to
00:36:42.940 San Diego and
00:36:43.620 Virginia, where
00:36:45.360 U.S.
00:36:45.720 officials believe
00:36:46.780 he used his
00:36:47.500 platform to
00:36:48.760 radicalize and
00:36:49.940 recruit terrorists.
00:36:51.060 And understand,
00:36:51.840 Al-Awlaki is 1.00
00:36:53.220 directly implicated
00:36:54.580 in, number
00:36:56.300 one, at the
00:36:56.920 San Diego
00:36:57.380 mosque.
00:36:57.900 He met the
00:36:58.520 9-11 hijackers
00:36:59.900 Nawaf al-Hazmi
00:37:01.600 and Khalid al-Midhar,
00:37:04.080 two of the men
00:37:04.660 who flew flight
00:37:05.460 77 into the
00:37:06.640 Pentagon on
00:37:08.800 9-11.
00:37:10.020 And he was
00:37:11.080 arrested in
00:37:12.200 2006 for his
00:37:14.420 terrorist ties in
00:37:15.440 Yemen.
00:37:16.540 And three years
00:37:17.420 later, Anwal al-Awlaki
00:37:18.880 communicated with
00:37:20.600 Nadal Hassan, who
00:37:21.900 murdered 14
00:37:23.000 innocent souls at
00:37:24.800 Fort Hood.
00:37:26.040 Anwal al-Awlaki was 0.98
00:37:27.280 also tied to the
00:37:28.280 underwear bomber,
00:37:29.800 Umar Farouk
00:37:31.120 Abdal-Mittalab, who
00:37:33.340 tried to blow up a
00:37:34.700 Detroit-bound
00:37:35.620 Northwest Airlines
00:37:36.820 flight on Christmas
00:37:37.860 Day 2009 with
00:37:40.100 bombs hidden in his
00:37:41.600 shorts.
00:37:42.240 This is who USAID
00:37:44.540 said, you know
00:37:45.200 what, we're going to
00:37:46.600 pay for you to get a
00:37:47.600 college degree. 0.94
00:37:48.440 What in the hell are 0.97
00:37:49.880 these people doing?
00:37:50.980 So the question that
00:37:52.040 I got to ask finally
00:37:53.080 on this to wrap it
00:37:54.800 up and people that
00:37:55.680 are listening are
00:37:56.160 going to say, number
00:37:56.860 one, how did this
00:37:59.620 A, happen, but even
00:38:01.060 more so, how are
00:38:02.780 people not going to
00:38:04.080 jail for knowingly
00:38:06.100 giving American
00:38:07.040 taxpayer dollars to
00:38:09.040 terrorists?
00:38:09.820 I mean, if you are
00:38:10.780 working in our
00:38:11.460 government, even if
00:38:12.860 it's under the
00:38:13.400 direction of the
00:38:14.060 Biden-Harris regime
00:38:15.140 at the time, and
00:38:16.580 you're sending out
00:38:17.300 money that you know
00:38:18.120 is going to
00:38:18.680 terrorists around
00:38:19.420 the world, is
00:38:20.760 that not like
00:38:21.620 breaking some law,
00:38:23.040 Senator?
00:38:23.760 Well, look, that's a
00:38:24.560 question that I think
00:38:25.260 is going to have to
00:38:25.760 be investigated and
00:38:26.840 examined.
00:38:27.640 You know, I will say
00:38:28.640 U.S.
00:38:29.040 anti-terrorism laws
00:38:30.220 prohibit sending money
00:38:31.380 that goes to
00:38:31.960 terrorism.
00:38:32.340 And in fact, the
00:38:34.140 Biden administration
00:38:35.040 made a formal
00:38:35.860 assessment and they
00:38:36.780 concluded that sending
00:38:37.700 the money to Gaza,
00:38:39.320 that it was very
00:38:41.040 likely that money 0.73
00:38:42.240 would be used by
00:38:43.120 Hamas for
00:38:43.720 terrorism.
00:38:44.220 Now, ordinarily,
00:38:45.320 when you make that
00:38:45.980 determination, under
00:38:47.900 American anti-terrorism
00:38:49.560 law, you don't send
00:38:50.260 the money.
00:38:50.620 You can't send the
00:38:51.240 money once you
00:38:51.820 determine that it's
00:38:52.520 likely it'll go to
00:38:53.260 terrorism.
00:38:54.280 However, the way the
00:38:55.400 law is written, the
00:38:56.860 president has the
00:38:57.780 authority to waive that
00:38:59.420 provision, and that's
00:39:00.280 exactly what they did
00:39:01.360 because they made a
00:39:02.160 determination that
00:39:03.840 their radical politics
00:39:05.640 were more important
00:39:07.220 than stopping
00:39:08.560 terrorists from
00:39:09.640 murdering American 1.00
00:39:10.540 citizens and 1.00
00:39:11.320 murdering Israeli 1.00
00:39:12.060 citizens. 0.96
00:39:12.580 And tragically, the
00:39:14.160 entire world saw the
00:39:15.280 consequences of that
00:39:16.400 radicalism on October
00:39:18.040 7th.
00:39:19.040 Do you think there
00:39:20.180 will be any
00:39:20.740 accountability for this
00:39:21.900 or is this going to be
00:39:22.580 another one of those
00:39:23.280 where, hey, we were in
00:39:24.380 charge, so we got
00:39:25.260 away with it?
00:39:26.880 Look, I certainly hope
00:39:27.820 there will be
00:39:28.220 accountability, but at a
00:39:29.300 minimum, we're seeing
00:39:30.000 accountability in
00:39:31.420 President Trump and
00:39:32.340 Elon Musk shutting
00:39:34.080 down these programs at
00:39:35.740 USAID.
00:39:36.640 I think that is very
00:39:37.460 good, and my hope and
00:39:38.440 expectations is that
00:39:40.020 Congress will come
00:39:40.920 along and we will pass
00:39:42.220 legislation, presumably
00:39:43.500 as a part of budget
00:39:45.000 reconciliation later
00:39:46.220 this year, to codify
00:39:48.160 these cuts and
00:39:49.200 eliminate the waste
00:39:50.460 fraud and abuse.
00:39:51.460 And Senator, you
00:39:52.440 mentioned, you know,
00:39:53.420 the corruption and
00:39:54.780 what the president's
00:39:56.200 doing to clean it up.
00:39:57.160 As always, thank you
00:39:58.660 for listening to
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