Verdict with Ted Cruz - February 15, 2025


Democrats Crazed as Trump Breaks Their Toys, Social Security for 150yr Olds & USAID Funding Hamas Week In Review


Episode Stats

Length

40 minutes

Words per Minute

161.24287

Word Count

6,504

Sentence Count

349

Misogynist Sentences

9

Hate Speech Sentences

27


Summary


Transcript

00:00:00.000 This is an iHeart Podcast.
00:00:02.680 Guaranteed human.
00:00:05.360 Welcome, it is Verdict with Ted Cruz.
00:00:07.440 Weekend Review, Ben Ferguson with you.
00:00:09.220 And if it sounds like I'm under the weather,
00:00:10.660 I have the flu right now,
00:00:12.200 but the show, as they say, must go on.
00:00:14.280 So here are the three stories that you may have missed
00:00:16.100 that we talked about this week.
00:00:17.580 First up, Democrats not in charge
00:00:20.120 and don't mind shutting down the government
00:00:21.960 to hurt Donald Trump.
00:00:23.380 So will it work?
00:00:24.220 We'll explain that in a moment.
00:00:25.820 Also, social security checks are going out
00:00:28.060 to people that are 150 years old.
00:00:30.880 That's right, Doge is uncovering more waste, fraud, and abuse.
00:00:34.280 It's incredible what we found in the first three weeks
00:00:36.380 and we'll have the list for you as well.
00:00:38.820 And finally, USAID money going directly
00:00:41.480 to terrorist organizations and charities
00:00:43.580 and the government knew it the entire time.
00:00:45.960 It's the Weekend Review and it starts right now.
00:00:48.800 Democrats now trying to figure out their footing.
00:00:51.940 They had Alam Omar who went on TV today
00:00:55.140 saying that Trump has decided
00:00:57.720 he will not abide by the Constitution,
00:00:59.860 just throwing it out there.
00:01:01.260 And then she says, by the way,
00:01:02.640 every executive order that's been to court now
00:01:04.720 has been shut down by the court.
00:01:06.380 That's a lie, not true.
00:01:08.120 But it even Face the Nation tried to softly correct her
00:01:12.560 because they want this to be true, right?
00:01:15.760 And then there's this new threat of like,
00:01:18.380 all right, we'll just shut down the government.
00:01:20.020 I kind of laugh because for many conservatives,
00:01:23.800 they're like, great, let's shut it down
00:01:24.940 and save some money for a while.
00:01:26.000 I wish it worked that way.
00:01:27.120 I wish it was that simple.
00:01:28.120 It's obviously not.
00:01:29.360 But this is the new temper tantrum of the left.
00:01:32.840 They're saying if we aren't in charge,
00:01:35.000 then we want to destroy what the government does well.
00:01:38.340 We want to hurt people
00:01:39.360 and we want to shut down the government to hurt people
00:01:41.260 so you'll blame Donald Trump.
00:01:42.680 That's what this is really all about.
00:01:44.180 Am I wrong?
00:01:45.760 Well, look, understand there's a battle going back and forth.
00:01:49.360 And at some level,
00:01:50.400 this battle is inherent in the structure of our government.
00:01:52.860 It's inherent in the Constitution.
00:01:55.260 Congress, under Article I,
00:01:57.040 all legislative power is vested
00:01:58.920 in the Congress of the United States.
00:02:01.140 Congress passes the laws
00:02:02.720 that the president signs into law
00:02:05.040 and that are then binding federal law.
00:02:08.960 The executive, all executive power
00:02:11.720 is vested in the president of the United States.
00:02:13.840 That's under Article II of the Constitution.
00:02:16.260 And the president is charged with,
00:02:18.600 has given the authority to
00:02:19.880 and also the responsibility to,
00:02:22.560 quote, take care that the laws be faithfully executed.
00:02:26.940 That's the Constitution's language.
00:02:29.180 And so a lot of, you know,
00:02:30.800 it's interesting as I travel around
00:02:32.400 and talk to people back home in Texas
00:02:34.420 or around the country,
00:02:36.140 they ask, okay, so is what Elon's doing,
00:02:39.740 is what Trump is doing,
00:02:41.300 cutting off funding at USAID,
00:02:43.720 pausing other funding,
00:02:44.780 is that going to stick?
00:02:46.900 And this is a battle back and forth
00:02:49.540 between the executive and legislature
00:02:51.780 that has occurred since the very first days of the Republic.
00:02:55.540 And one of the things right at the heart of this battle
00:02:58.180 is about something called impoundment.
00:03:02.400 Now, what does impoundment mean?
00:03:04.720 Impoundment is when the president of the United States
00:03:07.160 decides not to spend money
00:03:09.380 that has been appropriated by the U.S. Congress.
00:03:12.760 Now, you might ask,
00:03:14.740 okay, is impoundment some crazy theory
00:03:16.980 that Donald Trump cooked up
00:03:18.360 or Elon Musk cooked up?
00:03:20.120 Well, no.
00:03:21.200 No, impoundment has been around
00:03:22.620 for more than 200 years.
00:03:24.200 The first president to exercise impoundment
00:03:26.760 was Thomas Jefferson,
00:03:28.340 and he did so in 1801.
00:03:29.840 And if you look at what Thomas Jefferson did,
00:03:35.420 the first use of impoundment
00:03:37.580 involved a refusal to spend $50,000,
00:03:41.220 which $50,000 in 2023 dollars
00:03:44.400 is about $1.24 million,
00:03:46.740 in funds that were appropriated
00:03:48.480 for the acquisition of gunboats
00:03:50.340 for the United States Navy.
00:03:52.860 And Thomas Jefferson said in 1803
00:03:55.060 that, quote,
00:03:56.280 the sum of $50,000 appropriated by Congress
00:03:58.800 for providing gunboats
00:04:00.360 remains unexpended.
00:04:02.680 The favorable and peaceful turn of affairs
00:04:04.900 on the Mississippi
00:04:05.700 rendered an immediate execution
00:04:07.820 of that law unnecessary.
00:04:10.640 Now, Jefferson did so,
00:04:12.600 and in the years that went on,
00:04:14.920 presidents did so for 200 years.
00:04:17.120 Now, what happened?
00:04:19.100 Well, in the 1970s,
00:04:21.180 Richard Nixon had a battle with Congress,
00:04:24.740 and Congress got angry with Richard Nixon
00:04:27.420 and felt he was using impoundment
00:04:29.320 too aggressively.
00:04:31.540 And Congress passed a law
00:04:33.480 called the Congressional Budget
00:04:36.160 and Impoundment Control Act
00:04:37.940 of 1974
00:04:39.620 that purported
00:04:40.940 to remove the power of impoundment,
00:04:44.600 or at least to severely curtail it.
00:04:46.960 And the Supreme Court
00:04:49.120 heard a decision,
00:04:51.340 it was a decision called
00:04:52.340 Train v. City of New York,
00:04:54.740 where the Supreme Court
00:04:56.420 upheld the Impoundment Control Act
00:05:00.580 and significantly reduced
00:05:03.720 the president's power
00:05:05.060 to exercise impoundment.
00:05:07.240 Now, by the way,
00:05:08.900 there was a subsequent wrinkle in this,
00:05:11.880 in that Congress came back afterwards
00:05:15.800 and passed a bill
00:05:17.440 called the Line Item Veto Act
00:05:19.000 of 1996.
00:05:20.740 This happened after
00:05:22.000 the Republican takeover of Congress,
00:05:24.780 Newt Gingrich came in,
00:05:26.180 and the Line Item Veto Act
00:05:27.800 gave the president
00:05:28.660 the power of line item veto,
00:05:30.620 which Bill Clinton
00:05:31.700 used on the federal budget
00:05:34.040 82 times.
00:05:36.060 However,
00:05:37.000 that law was struck down
00:05:39.180 in 1998
00:05:39.960 by the Supreme Court.
00:05:41.380 It was a 5-4 vote.
00:05:43.000 Actually,
00:05:43.420 my former boss
00:05:44.340 and very good friend,
00:05:45.360 Chuck Cooper,
00:05:46.020 the man who taught me
00:05:47.040 how to be a lawyer,
00:05:48.400 argued that case.
00:05:49.460 Unfortunately,
00:05:50.100 he was on the losing side
00:05:51.300 of that case
00:05:51.880 and lost 5-4.
00:05:54.080 The point,
00:05:55.920 what Elon is doing
00:05:57.240 and what Trump is doing,
00:05:59.140 there's a long history
00:06:00.360 of presidents saying,
00:06:01.520 I don't want to spend money
00:06:03.240 that is wasteful
00:06:04.100 and I'm not going to.
00:06:05.880 Now,
00:06:06.020 there's also a history
00:06:06.760 of Congress pushing back.
00:06:09.960 What's likely to happen?
00:06:11.640 There is already,
00:06:13.140 and there will be more,
00:06:15.540 a crap ton of litigation
00:06:18.240 challenging these actions.
00:06:21.260 We're seeing Democrat
00:06:23.000 attorneys general
00:06:24.100 bringing lawsuits.
00:06:25.300 We're going to see
00:06:25.880 Democrat interest groups
00:06:27.160 bringing lawsuits.
00:06:29.200 We're going to see
00:06:29.660 activist judges
00:06:30.640 striking down
00:06:32.340 actions,
00:06:34.700 executive orders,
00:06:35.640 and this is going
00:06:37.420 to test the legal boundaries.
00:06:39.060 At the end of the day,
00:06:40.760 part of what is going on
00:06:42.520 is this is designed
00:06:43.760 to go to the Supreme Court
00:06:46.020 and to restore
00:06:47.740 the power of impoundment
00:06:49.420 to the president.
00:06:50.240 I think that would be
00:06:51.100 a very good thing.
00:06:51.960 I think it is consistent.
00:06:53.600 It is an inherent authority
00:06:55.360 of the president
00:06:56.140 to exercise the authority
00:06:57.580 of impoundment,
00:06:58.840 but understand
00:07:00.640 we're going to see
00:07:02.180 a litigation
00:07:03.920 battle royale
00:07:06.300 and it'll take
00:07:07.520 in all likelihood.
00:07:09.020 So this is,
00:07:09.520 you're saying
00:07:09.920 this is a fight
00:07:10.540 that we want
00:07:11.400 to go to the Supreme Court
00:07:12.520 and if it does go
00:07:14.020 to the Supreme Court
00:07:14.700 and it plays
00:07:15.980 to our advantage
00:07:16.720 the way that you're
00:07:17.220 describing it
00:07:17.820 with the law,
00:07:18.580 how long is it going
00:07:19.460 to take us
00:07:19.820 to get it there?
00:07:20.820 Probably a couple of years,
00:07:21.840 two to three years.
00:07:22.880 So in the next
00:07:23.780 two to three years,
00:07:24.580 we're going to be
00:07:25.340 just dealing with
00:07:26.180 pure fights
00:07:27.100 with the media,
00:07:29.260 Democrats coming after
00:07:30.620 and trying to stop
00:07:31.200 everything that they're
00:07:32.340 trying to cut
00:07:32.780 with waste,
00:07:33.240 fraud,
00:07:33.400 and abuse.
00:07:34.040 Yes,
00:07:34.520 and understand
00:07:35.640 Elon and Doge,
00:07:37.660 they're embodying
00:07:38.940 right now
00:07:39.500 the Silicon Valley
00:07:40.520 mantra
00:07:41.080 of move fast
00:07:42.300 and break things.
00:07:43.500 I mean,
00:07:43.880 that's what they're doing.
00:07:45.100 Not everything
00:07:45.920 that they do
00:07:47.440 is going to be upheld.
00:07:48.760 There will be
00:07:49.440 injunctions issued
00:07:50.600 and I think
00:07:51.680 they understand that
00:07:52.560 and I think
00:07:53.040 they're trying to
00:07:54.160 they're trying
00:07:55.940 to implement
00:07:56.780 the mandate
00:07:57.860 that came from
00:07:58.660 the voters
00:07:59.200 as rapidly
00:08:00.560 and effectively
00:08:01.280 as possible.
00:08:02.700 Listen,
00:08:03.140 I for one
00:08:03.600 am excited about that
00:08:04.760 and I think
00:08:06.200 if you look
00:08:06.760 at some of
00:08:07.740 the egregious abuses
00:08:08.700 that have been
00:08:09.220 uncovered so far,
00:08:11.140 it gives an illustration
00:08:12.440 of just how important
00:08:13.480 this is.
00:08:14.520 Before we move on
00:08:15.480 to the federal
00:08:16.140 financial watchdog
00:08:17.120 order to cease activity
00:08:18.220 and that's important,
00:08:18.980 we're going to deal
00:08:19.260 with that in a second.
00:08:19.900 One final question
00:08:21.120 on this.
00:08:22.480 We could go back,
00:08:23.380 I think,
00:08:23.840 whenever the sale was,
00:08:25.400 a year and a half,
00:08:26.040 whatever it was,
00:08:27.060 when Elon Musk
00:08:28.300 took over Twitter
00:08:30.340 and we saw
00:08:31.520 the Twitter files
00:08:32.440 and then we saw
00:08:33.120 the corruption,
00:08:34.480 I actually think
00:08:35.300 you can trace this
00:08:36.160 all the way back
00:08:36.960 to there
00:08:37.520 when people
00:08:38.700 really started
00:08:39.260 paying attention
00:08:39.860 to saying,
00:08:40.560 I don't trust
00:08:40.960 the government.
00:08:41.380 You add COVID
00:08:42.060 in there
00:08:42.500 and the lies
00:08:43.440 of the vaccine
00:08:44.120 and the two weeks
00:08:45.080 stopped the spread
00:08:45.800 and the Wuhan
00:08:46.280 Institute of Virology
00:08:47.240 and then the lies
00:08:48.380 over the Hunter Biden
00:08:49.160 laptop and there
00:08:50.480 started to be
00:08:51.160 these moments
00:08:52.020 that were big
00:08:52.920 where people were like,
00:08:53.460 okay,
00:08:54.260 maybe I shouldn't
00:08:55.480 be so trusting
00:08:56.240 of the news,
00:08:57.240 maybe I shouldn't
00:08:57.780 be trusting
00:08:58.200 of the government,
00:08:58.960 the deep state,
00:08:59.820 the president
00:09:00.360 and then you have
00:09:02.440 him take over
00:09:03.540 X, right?
00:09:04.560 Twitter now X.
00:09:05.900 Part of the reason
00:09:06.760 why I think
00:09:07.260 Donald Trump's
00:09:07.760 having so much success
00:09:08.560 now is because
00:09:09.660 we're getting
00:09:10.380 the word out
00:09:11.200 about the waste
00:09:12.400 and the fraud
00:09:13.080 and getting the line
00:09:14.440 out of it
00:09:14.840 and people are seeing it
00:09:16.160 because before,
00:09:17.980 you go back
00:09:18.340 to 2016,
00:09:19.200 center,
00:09:19.780 big tree falls
00:09:20.560 in the forest,
00:09:21.100 no one's around,
00:09:21.800 does it make a sound,
00:09:22.820 right?
00:09:23.280 The answer is no
00:09:24.480 but now what we're
00:09:25.860 getting in the info
00:09:27.080 that we're getting
00:09:27.700 and it's getting out
00:09:28.920 because big tech
00:09:29.720 can't suppress it
00:09:30.580 on X,
00:09:31.500 how valuable is that
00:09:32.760 to saving our democracy?
00:09:34.520 Look,
00:09:34.700 I think it's
00:09:35.320 incredibly valuable.
00:09:36.680 I believe Elon Musk
00:09:38.400 buying Twitter
00:09:39.260 was the most important
00:09:41.260 development for free speech
00:09:43.100 in modern times
00:09:44.060 because it turned around
00:09:45.960 the rampant censorship
00:09:47.980 from big tech,
00:09:49.640 it put positive pressure
00:09:51.060 on the rest of big tech
00:09:52.920 and it created a vehicle
00:09:54.560 for the truth to get out
00:09:56.740 so,
00:09:57.200 you know,
00:09:57.440 we've gone through
00:09:58.100 in previous podcasts
00:09:59.160 all the examples
00:10:00.520 or not all the examples
00:10:01.800 but a number of examples
00:10:02.960 of abusive spending
00:10:04.480 two million dollars
00:10:06.640 for sex changes
00:10:08.220 in Guatemala.
00:10:09.680 Now,
00:10:10.120 who the hell
00:10:10.740 can defend that?
00:10:11.860 Why U.S. taxpayers
00:10:13.100 are paying for sex changes
00:10:15.160 in Guatemala?
00:10:16.240 Money to the BBC,
00:10:17.620 the British Broadcasting Corporation,
00:10:19.640 By the way,
00:10:20.660 why the hell
00:10:22.080 are American taxpayers
00:10:23.560 paying for the BBC?
00:10:25.300 The last I checked,
00:10:26.240 the United Kingdom
00:10:26.920 is a major developed country.
00:10:28.140 They can pay for their own
00:10:29.000 damn television station.
00:10:30.660 What do we need
00:10:31.400 to pay for that?
00:10:33.300 And what's amazing
00:10:34.180 is the Democrats
00:10:34.940 are just digging in.
00:10:36.140 Give a listen
00:10:36.640 to Senator Chris Coons
00:10:38.340 defending
00:10:39.240 spending 20 million dollars
00:10:41.940 on American taxpayer money
00:10:43.320 for Sesame Street
00:10:44.460 in Iraq.
00:10:45.600 Give a listen.
00:10:46.040 Is funding Sesame Street
00:10:48.520 a judicious use
00:10:50.300 of soft power?
00:10:51.420 Well, Michael,
00:10:52.300 the way you put it
00:10:53.260 is the way I hope
00:10:54.440 folks considering
00:10:55.340 your poll today
00:10:56.360 will think about it.
00:10:57.840 This isn't just funding
00:10:58.980 a kid show
00:10:59.840 for children,
00:11:01.100 millions of children
00:11:02.020 in countries like Iraq.
00:11:03.600 It's a show
00:11:04.680 that helps teach values,
00:11:06.700 helps teach public health,
00:11:08.640 helps prevent kids
00:11:09.620 from dying
00:11:10.340 from dysentery
00:11:11.600 and disease,
00:11:12.480 and helps push values
00:11:14.280 like collaboration,
00:11:16.220 peacefulness,
00:11:17.180 cooperation
00:11:17.660 in a society
00:11:19.120 where the alternative
00:11:20.020 is ISIS,
00:11:21.540 extremism,
00:11:22.380 and terrorism.
00:11:23.740 And to your point,
00:11:24.880 it's pennies
00:11:25.660 on the dollar.
00:11:26.780 The U.S.
00:11:27.440 Department of Defense
00:11:28.540 has an annual budget
00:11:29.740 of about $850 billion.
00:11:33.960 USAID was spending
00:11:35.160 about $30 billion.
00:11:37.300 It is a small proportion
00:11:39.000 of our total federal spending,
00:11:41.100 and as Joe Nye
00:11:41.880 would often say,
00:11:43.080 it's not just soft power,
00:11:44.820 it's smart power.
00:11:46.280 Let me leave you
00:11:46.900 with one other quote,
00:11:47.880 Michael, if I could.
00:11:49.180 Jim Mattis,
00:11:49.840 who was a four-star
00:11:50.760 Marine Corps general
00:11:51.760 and Trump's Secretary of Defense
00:11:54.080 in his first term,
00:11:55.540 in a hearing back then,
00:11:56.960 said,
00:11:57.240 if you slash development
00:11:59.320 and aid spending,
00:12:00.640 then I'm going to need
00:12:02.020 more bullets
00:12:03.040 for our troops.
00:12:04.220 I mean,
00:12:04.820 you want to talk
00:12:05.620 about stretching.
00:12:06.440 He's saying
00:12:06.880 Sesame Street's going to
00:12:07.780 save us from extremism.
00:12:08.960 Are we kidding ourselves?
00:12:10.360 Well, look,
00:12:11.240 the Democrats are dug in
00:12:12.980 to defending everything,
00:12:14.580 to defending
00:12:15.180 all of the money
00:12:16.640 that was just
00:12:17.400 flowing out
00:12:18.520 with no checks
00:12:19.640 whatsoever.
00:12:20.760 And I think
00:12:21.840 these examples
00:12:22.620 are having a real effect
00:12:23.700 of pissing people off,
00:12:24.900 saying,
00:12:25.220 why is my money
00:12:26.380 going to that?
00:12:27.820 By the way,
00:12:28.420 if Democrats think
00:12:30.400 that's such a good idea,
00:12:31.520 let them give their own money
00:12:32.480 for that.
00:12:32.900 But what right do they have
00:12:33.980 to take your money
00:12:35.200 that you're working hard
00:12:36.340 to provide for your kids
00:12:37.440 and your family
00:12:38.200 to take it
00:12:39.140 and spend it
00:12:39.820 on every radical agenda item
00:12:42.240 they want to push?
00:12:43.340 That's what's been happening.
00:12:44.600 It happened
00:12:45.080 at egregious levels
00:12:46.840 under the Biden administration,
00:12:47.960 and I think that's what
00:12:49.120 Trump's working very hard
00:12:50.260 to turn around.
00:12:51.800 Yeah, great point.
00:12:52.980 Finally,
00:12:53.280 I want to ask you
00:12:54.040 about this
00:12:54.640 because I think
00:12:55.220 it should be on listeners'
00:12:56.440 radar screen.
00:12:57.000 It's an important issue.
00:12:58.740 The New York Times
00:12:59.360 is coming out
00:12:59.880 talking about this.
00:13:00.740 The federal financial watchdog
00:13:02.640 has been ordered
00:13:04.460 to cease activity
00:13:05.800 known as the Consumer
00:13:07.260 Financial Protection Bureau.
00:13:09.460 Why is this happening
00:13:10.600 and what does this mean?
00:13:12.260 Well, the CFPB,
00:13:14.020 the Consumer Financial
00:13:15.160 Protection Bureau,
00:13:16.180 was created
00:13:17.080 by the Dodd-Frank law.
00:13:18.420 This is a creation
00:13:19.860 of Elizabeth Warren,
00:13:20.940 and it has descended
00:13:25.420 like locusts,
00:13:26.720 putting all sorts
00:13:28.160 of regulations
00:13:28.920 and costs.
00:13:30.400 It brings abusive litigation.
00:13:32.720 It is an avenue
00:13:35.260 for left-wing bureaucrats
00:13:39.380 to try to control
00:13:40.880 community banks,
00:13:42.940 smaller financial institutions,
00:13:44.520 and to drive up costs.
00:13:46.200 And the CFPB,
00:13:48.260 I've introduced repeatedly
00:13:50.220 legislation to eliminate
00:13:51.660 the CFPB.
00:13:53.560 What happened this week
00:13:55.360 is Russ Vogt
00:13:56.660 was confirmed
00:13:57.780 to leave the Office
00:13:58.780 of Management and Budget.
00:13:59.920 And Russ is a good friend.
00:14:01.520 He's a good guy.
00:14:03.040 He ran OMB
00:14:04.900 under Trump
00:14:05.580 during the first term.
00:14:07.260 And Russ was just confirmed.
00:14:08.720 We just confirmed him
00:14:09.540 this past week
00:14:10.260 to run OMB again.
00:14:11.940 And on Friday,
00:14:13.400 he was also named
00:14:14.420 the acting director
00:14:15.660 of the Consumer
00:14:17.380 Financial Protection Bureau,
00:14:19.420 the CFPB.
00:14:20.760 And as a result,
00:14:23.480 he issued an order
00:14:24.560 for them to halt
00:14:25.920 what they're doing.
00:14:27.920 So one chunk of it.
00:14:28.900 So the way
00:14:29.340 Elizabeth Warren
00:14:30.060 structured it.
00:14:32.280 Congress does not
00:14:33.300 appropriate money
00:14:34.080 to the CFPB,
00:14:35.060 which is weird,
00:14:35.660 by the way.
00:14:36.140 If you look at
00:14:36.860 virtually every federal agency,
00:14:38.700 Congress appropriates
00:14:39.580 money for them.
00:14:40.220 That's part of the
00:14:41.220 checks and balances
00:14:42.120 of how the federal
00:14:44.040 government is set up.
00:14:45.280 Well,
00:14:46.520 Dodd-Frank instead
00:14:48.340 has the CFPB
00:14:49.960 funded
00:14:50.440 with money
00:14:52.060 from the Federal Reserve
00:14:53.280 that flows automatically
00:14:54.780 so Congress
00:14:55.560 doesn't get
00:14:56.240 to appropriate
00:14:57.260 and engage
00:14:57.960 in the oversight
00:14:58.520 that comes with that.
00:15:00.500 So as a result,
00:15:02.580 on Saturday,
00:15:04.040 Russ Vogt
00:15:04.740 wrote that he had
00:15:08.020 notified the Federal Reserve
00:15:09.620 that the CFPB,
00:15:10.860 will not be taking
00:15:13.180 its next draw
00:15:14.180 of unappropriated
00:15:15.980 funding
00:15:16.500 because it is
00:15:17.940 not reasonably
00:15:19.040 necessary
00:15:19.600 to carry out
00:15:20.660 its duties.
00:15:22.380 The Bureau's
00:15:23.060 current balance
00:15:23.820 of $711.6 million
00:15:26.000 is in fact
00:15:27.640 excessive
00:15:28.260 in the current
00:15:28.900 fiscal environment.
00:15:30.900 This spigot,
00:15:31.780 long contributing
00:15:32.540 to CFPB's
00:15:33.560 unaccountability,
00:15:34.680 is now being
00:15:36.060 turned off.
00:15:37.200 That is fantastic,
00:15:38.760 and I'll tell you
00:15:39.340 what,
00:15:39.920 I've introduced
00:15:40.780 legislation
00:15:41.580 that will
00:15:43.140 zero out
00:15:43.960 the CFPB,
00:15:44.860 that will shut
00:15:45.480 it down
00:15:46.060 permanently.
00:15:47.060 I believe
00:15:47.900 we will get
00:15:48.500 that done
00:15:49.120 as part
00:15:51.320 of budget
00:15:52.520 reconciliation.
00:15:54.660 And so
00:15:55.080 eliminating
00:15:55.780 the CFP
00:15:56.780 would be
00:15:57.220 a major
00:15:57.960 victory
00:15:58.560 for lowering
00:15:59.860 inflation,
00:16:00.700 for lowering
00:16:01.280 burdensome
00:16:01.920 regulation,
00:16:02.760 for lowering
00:16:03.440 the nanny
00:16:04.420 state control
00:16:05.380 of big government,
00:16:06.160 and if we
00:16:06.640 get that
00:16:07.060 done,
00:16:07.420 that's a
00:16:07.880 huge
00:16:08.240 victory.
00:16:09.180 I'll tell
00:16:09.500 you,
00:16:09.680 Russ Vogt
00:16:10.700 taking over
00:16:11.700 as acting
00:16:12.200 director
00:16:12.640 in the past
00:16:13.160 few days
00:16:13.660 was a major
00:16:14.180 step forward
00:16:14.800 in that regard.
00:16:16.020 Now,
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00:16:16.560 to hear
00:16:16.800 the rest
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00:16:53.780 Now on to
00:16:54.680 story number
00:16:55.260 two.
00:16:56.140 Let's move
00:16:56.980 to another
00:16:57.860 aspect of
00:16:59.100 just an
00:17:00.040 incredible
00:17:00.700 three weeks
00:17:02.160 where Elon
00:17:03.020 Musk and
00:17:03.700 Donald Trump
00:17:04.500 are doing
00:17:05.540 exactly what
00:17:06.560 they said
00:17:06.960 they were
00:17:07.200 going to
00:17:07.400 do.
00:17:08.240 And they
00:17:08.480 are,
00:17:08.800 I think,
00:17:09.400 using the
00:17:10.380 media,
00:17:11.200 the bully
00:17:11.680 pulpit,
00:17:12.500 the microphone
00:17:13.820 that they've
00:17:14.520 been given
00:17:15.060 in the Oval
00:17:16.480 Office to
00:17:17.600 inform the
00:17:18.420 American people,
00:17:19.960 those that
00:17:20.460 voted for
00:17:21.100 him and
00:17:21.900 others that
00:17:22.400 maybe didn't
00:17:23.100 that,
00:17:23.640 hey,
00:17:23.980 we're finding
00:17:25.140 some of the
00:17:25.680 most ridiculous,
00:17:27.020 egregious
00:17:28.240 waste of your
00:17:29.740 tax dollars.
00:17:30.460 And one of the
00:17:31.200 stories I talked
00:17:31.840 about was people
00:17:32.840 that are still
00:17:33.380 getting Social
00:17:33.820 Security checks
00:17:34.480 when they're
00:17:34.920 quote,
00:17:35.260 150 years
00:17:36.320 old.
00:17:37.120 Yeah,
00:17:37.660 it was really
00:17:38.160 powerful.
00:17:38.800 So President
00:17:39.180 Trump and
00:17:39.620 Elon Musk
00:17:40.180 did a press
00:17:41.220 conference from
00:17:41.900 the Oval
00:17:42.320 Office on
00:17:42.960 Thursday.
00:17:44.080 Earlier this
00:17:44.660 week,
00:17:44.960 President Trump
00:17:45.540 signed an
00:17:45.960 executive order
00:17:46.800 instructing Doge
00:17:48.320 to coordinate
00:17:48.840 with federal
00:17:49.320 agencies and
00:17:50.660 to execute
00:17:51.380 massive cuts
00:17:52.240 in federal
00:17:52.900 government
00:17:53.220 staffing numbers.
00:17:54.300 And the
00:17:54.680 order instructs
00:17:56.000 federal agencies
00:17:56.800 and Doge to
00:17:57.620 significantly
00:17:58.200 shrink the
00:17:58.780 size of the
00:17:59.200 federal government
00:17:59.800 and to limit
00:18:00.420 the hiring
00:18:01.060 of new
00:18:01.980 employees.
00:18:02.860 And I've
00:18:03.200 got to say,
00:18:04.100 Elon Musk
00:18:04.760 laid out
00:18:05.660 several of
00:18:06.580 the egregious
00:18:07.900 examples of
00:18:08.840 abuse.
00:18:09.640 Listen to
00:18:10.240 this first
00:18:11.260 one.
00:18:12.020 You know,
00:18:12.600 there's crazy
00:18:13.120 things like
00:18:13.520 just cross
00:18:14.840 re-examination
00:18:15.480 of Social
00:18:16.100 Security,
00:18:17.040 and we've
00:18:17.320 got people
00:18:17.640 in there
00:18:17.900 that are
00:18:18.100 150 years
00:18:18.860 old.
00:18:20.180 Now,
00:18:20.360 do you know
00:18:20.820 anyone who
00:18:21.660 is 150?
00:18:22.440 I don't know.
00:18:22.960 Okay.
00:18:24.260 They should be
00:18:25.020 on the
00:18:25.180 Guinness Book
00:18:25.480 of World
00:18:25.720 Records.
00:18:26.440 They're
00:18:26.600 missing out.
00:18:27.020 So,
00:18:29.400 you know,
00:18:30.260 that's the
00:18:30.520 case where
00:18:30.840 I think
00:18:31.240 they're
00:18:31.400 probably
00:18:31.620 dead.
00:18:32.160 It's my
00:18:32.440 guess.
00:18:33.640 Or they
00:18:34.420 should be
00:18:34.620 very famous.
00:18:35.140 One of the
00:18:35.420 two.
00:18:36.160 I mean,
00:18:36.540 I want to
00:18:36.900 meet them.
00:18:37.340 Elon wants
00:18:37.920 to meet
00:18:38.060 them.
00:18:38.180 The president
00:18:38.640 wants to
00:18:39.000 meet them.
00:18:39.200 You want
00:18:39.600 to meet
00:18:39.800 them,
00:18:39.920 right?
00:18:40.140 If you're
00:18:40.440 150 and
00:18:41.240 you're still
00:18:41.560 cashing
00:18:41.920 that check.
00:18:42.280 Ben,
00:18:42.720 I got to
00:18:43.460 say,
00:18:43.840 you don't
00:18:44.380 look a day
00:18:44.860 over 140.
00:18:47.060 I mean,
00:18:47.660 and this is
00:18:48.160 the stuff
00:18:48.540 that you just
00:18:49.480 can't even
00:18:50.000 make it up.
00:18:50.660 Of course,
00:18:51.220 they would be
00:18:51.620 sending a
00:18:52.040 check to
00:18:52.880 somebody that
00:18:53.520 we assume
00:18:54.220 is committing
00:18:55.300 fraud here,
00:18:56.100 right?
00:18:56.360 Like,
00:18:56.660 the checks
00:18:57.140 never stopped
00:18:57.800 and they're
00:18:58.020 like,
00:18:58.160 well,
00:18:58.240 just keep
00:18:58.640 cashing
00:18:59.120 them.
00:18:59.400 Of course,
00:19:00.600 it's fraud.
00:19:01.540 Of course,
00:19:02.160 it's fraud.
00:19:02.900 And the
00:19:03.260 Biden
00:19:03.560 administration
00:19:04.300 had no
00:19:05.280 interest in
00:19:05.880 uncovering
00:19:06.620 that fraud.
00:19:07.240 And take a
00:19:07.880 listen to what
00:19:08.260 President Trump
00:19:08.840 said about
00:19:09.280 the magnitude
00:19:10.020 of the
00:19:10.880 waste,
00:19:11.200 fraud,
00:19:11.400 and abuse
00:19:11.740 that they're
00:19:12.020 finding.
00:19:13.200 Billions and
00:19:13.840 billions of
00:19:14.400 dollars in
00:19:15.040 waste,
00:19:15.780 fraud,
00:19:16.200 and abuse.
00:19:17.720 And I
00:19:19.060 think it's
00:19:19.300 very important.
00:19:19.920 And that's
00:19:20.160 one of the
00:19:20.740 reasons I got
00:19:21.320 elected.
00:19:21.780 I say,
00:19:22.040 we're going
00:19:22.320 to do
00:19:22.540 that.
00:19:23.360 Nobody had
00:19:24.020 any idea
00:19:24.460 it was that
00:19:24.880 bad,
00:19:25.280 that sick,
00:19:25.880 and that
00:19:26.280 corrupt.
00:19:27.480 And it
00:19:27.820 seems hard
00:19:28.260 to believe
00:19:28.700 that judges
00:19:29.520 want to try
00:19:30.080 and stop
00:19:30.560 us from
00:19:31.060 looking for
00:19:31.700 corruption,
00:19:32.360 especially
00:19:32.780 when we
00:19:33.220 found hundreds
00:19:34.680 of millions
00:19:35.220 of dollars
00:19:35.840 worth,
00:19:36.360 much more
00:19:36.760 than that,
00:19:37.820 in just a
00:19:38.400 short period
00:19:38.860 of time.
00:19:39.520 We want to
00:19:39.980 weed out
00:19:40.320 the corruption.
00:19:41.680 And it
00:19:42.020 seems hard
00:19:42.440 to believe
00:19:42.820 that a judge
00:19:43.420 could say,
00:19:44.040 we don't
00:19:44.540 want you
00:19:44.860 to do
00:19:45.140 that.
00:19:46.620 So maybe
00:19:47.360 we have
00:19:47.620 to look
00:19:48.460 at the
00:19:48.740 judges,
00:19:49.200 because that's
00:19:49.760 a very
00:19:50.160 serious,
00:19:50.680 I think it's
00:19:51.100 a very
00:19:52.040 violation.
00:19:52.900 He mentions
00:19:53.560 the judges
00:19:53.980 there,
00:19:54.200 by the way,
00:19:54.540 there's a lot
00:19:55.120 of activist
00:19:55.760 judges that
00:19:56.520 were put
00:19:57.000 in by
00:19:57.720 liberals who
00:19:58.740 are like,
00:19:59.220 all right,
00:19:59.560 we're the
00:19:59.860 last defense
00:20:00.660 here,
00:20:01.000 so let's
00:20:01.440 try to
00:20:01.780 stop him
00:20:02.880 at all
00:20:03.160 costs,
00:20:04.260 because he's
00:20:05.560 too successful
00:20:06.320 at giving
00:20:06.960 the American
00:20:07.500 people transparency
00:20:08.720 and their
00:20:09.780 money back.
00:20:10.760 Look,
00:20:11.240 Barack Obama
00:20:11.940 and Joe
00:20:12.360 Biden put a
00:20:13.040 lot of
00:20:13.280 radicals on
00:20:14.080 the federal
00:20:14.480 bench,
00:20:14.940 and right
00:20:15.600 now you've
00:20:16.120 got Democrat
00:20:16.780 attorneys
00:20:17.220 general going
00:20:18.680 and seeking
00:20:19.140 out these
00:20:19.640 radicals to
00:20:20.300 file lawsuits.
00:20:21.100 You've also
00:20:21.440 got left
00:20:21.920 wing special
00:20:23.040 interest groups
00:20:23.780 seeking out
00:20:24.660 these radical
00:20:25.200 judges.
00:20:25.840 We're going
00:20:26.280 to see a lot
00:20:26.960 of lawsuits,
00:20:27.580 we're going
00:20:27.740 to see a lot
00:20:28.200 of lawfare
00:20:28.740 over the
00:20:29.060 next four
00:20:29.520 years,
00:20:30.020 but I've
00:20:30.780 got to say,
00:20:31.400 watching Democrats
00:20:32.760 in the media
00:20:33.300 melt down,
00:20:33.960 number one,
00:20:34.420 they've always
00:20:34.840 melted down over
00:20:35.620 Trump,
00:20:35.960 they have
00:20:36.200 Trump derangement
00:20:36.980 syndrome,
00:20:37.720 but they also
00:20:38.200 have Elon
00:20:38.680 derangement
00:20:39.280 syndrome,
00:20:39.580 and they
00:20:39.960 scream,
00:20:40.980 well,
00:20:41.080 Elon Musk
00:20:41.780 was not
00:20:42.200 elected to
00:20:42.760 anything.
00:20:43.900 Well,
00:20:44.320 yeah,
00:20:44.500 that's true,
00:20:45.200 but Donald
00:20:45.900 Trump was
00:20:47.320 elected to
00:20:48.080 something,
00:20:48.460 he was elected
00:20:48.940 to President
00:20:49.460 of the United
00:20:49.940 States,
00:20:50.340 and he was
00:20:50.940 elected on
00:20:51.480 a mandate,
00:20:52.320 and this is
00:20:52.980 actually a point
00:20:53.720 that Elon
00:20:54.960 made quite
00:20:56.320 effectively in
00:20:57.020 the Oval,
00:20:57.580 give a listen.
00:20:58.300 The people
00:20:58.900 voted for
00:21:00.500 major government
00:21:01.400 reform,
00:21:02.600 there should be
00:21:03.220 no doubt
00:21:03.600 about that,
00:21:04.160 that was on
00:21:05.200 the campaign,
00:21:06.200 the president
00:21:06.620 spoke about
00:21:07.160 that at
00:21:07.860 every rally,
00:21:08.680 the people
00:21:09.040 voted for
00:21:09.500 major government
00:21:10.400 reform,
00:21:11.320 and that's
00:21:11.720 what people
00:21:12.040 are going
00:21:12.220 to get,
00:21:12.560 they're going
00:21:12.760 to get what
00:21:13.180 they voted
00:21:13.540 for,
00:21:14.840 and a lot
00:21:15.280 of times
00:21:15.580 people don't
00:21:16.460 get what
00:21:17.580 they voted
00:21:17.900 for,
00:21:18.380 but in
00:21:18.760 this presidency
00:21:19.400 they are
00:21:20.200 going to
00:21:20.420 get what
00:21:20.700 they voted
00:21:21.020 for,
00:21:21.400 and that's
00:21:22.040 what democracy
00:21:22.640 is all
00:21:22.900 about.
00:21:23.860 I gotta say,
00:21:24.820 I love
00:21:25.280 listening to
00:21:25.760 Elon,
00:21:26.100 you spent a
00:21:26.720 lot of time
00:21:27.160 with him,
00:21:28.040 I think this
00:21:28.940 is a perfect
00:21:29.460 example of
00:21:30.080 just how
00:21:30.540 genuine his
00:21:31.400 heart is on
00:21:31.980 this,
00:21:32.740 he truly is
00:21:34.180 a believer
00:21:34.740 in this
00:21:35.260 country,
00:21:35.960 and giving
00:21:36.460 the American
00:21:37.020 people what
00:21:37.480 they voted
00:21:37.840 for,
00:21:38.520 and he is
00:21:39.120 an agent
00:21:39.760 to go find
00:21:40.820 the waste,
00:21:41.340 fraud,
00:21:41.520 and abuse,
00:21:42.040 and he's
00:21:42.980 incredibly focused
00:21:44.340 on it.
00:21:44.780 He is
00:21:45.480 incredibly
00:21:46.280 focused,
00:21:46.960 and he's
00:21:47.180 right,
00:21:47.480 this is
00:21:47.880 democracy,
00:21:49.000 and yet
00:21:49.540 it is
00:21:49.940 causing
00:21:50.360 the radical
00:21:50.940 left to
00:21:51.540 lose their
00:21:52.120 minds.
00:21:52.740 I gotta say,
00:21:53.880 I wanna play
00:21:55.360 this segment
00:21:56.380 from CNN
00:21:57.020 because it
00:21:57.660 really does
00:21:58.260 show how
00:21:58.760 the media,
00:21:59.800 their minds
00:22:01.160 are melting
00:22:01.600 down.
00:22:02.220 You had
00:22:02.800 former New
00:22:03.280 Hampshire
00:22:03.520 Governor
00:22:03.900 Chris Sununu
00:22:04.820 who's on
00:22:06.420 and he's on
00:22:06.880 with Anderson
00:22:07.400 Cooper,
00:22:07.860 and Anderson
00:22:08.220 Cooper
00:22:08.560 loses it,
00:22:09.240 and you've
00:22:09.420 also got
00:22:09.820 Jeffrey Toobin,
00:22:11.180 another left-wing
00:22:12.240 CNN contributor.
00:22:13.380 You're old
00:22:13.860 buddies,
00:22:14.140 these are
00:22:14.460 all the
00:22:14.760 folks you
00:22:15.140 piled around
00:22:15.640 with,
00:22:15.960 Ben.
00:22:17.220 I did my
00:22:17.760 seven years
00:22:18.380 in hell,
00:22:18.980 seven years
00:22:19.480 in hell.
00:22:20.120 Do you have
00:22:20.820 CNN tattooed
00:22:21.800 somewhere on
00:22:22.200 your body?
00:22:22.620 I do not,
00:22:23.700 I do not,
00:22:24.700 I'm sure,
00:22:25.020 just checking.
00:22:26.700 So,
00:22:26.940 so,
00:22:27.140 so,
00:22:27.280 so,
00:22:27.500 all right,
00:22:27.800 give a listen
00:22:28.340 to Chris Sununu
00:22:29.100 and,
00:22:29.480 and,
00:22:29.800 and,
00:22:29.960 and look how
00:22:30.540 he,
00:22:30.860 how he causes
00:22:31.660 the CNN
00:22:32.580 folks to
00:22:33.160 lose their
00:22:33.460 minds.
00:22:34.600 It was
00:22:35.380 surreal,
00:22:35.820 but I gotta
00:22:36.160 tell you,
00:22:36.640 I know what
00:22:37.240 you're not
00:22:37.520 showing here.
00:22:38.100 Musk gave
00:22:38.520 seven specific
00:22:39.600 examples off
00:22:40.520 the top of
00:22:41.060 his head
00:22:41.460 of where the
00:22:42.100 corruption and
00:22:42.660 fraud were.
00:22:43.240 I know you
00:22:43.500 don't,
00:22:43.720 you didn't play
00:22:44.020 the clips.
00:22:44.540 He was talking
00:22:44.900 about a
00:22:45.260 contractor that
00:22:45.980 had a three
00:22:46.400 month contract.
00:22:47.260 He was paid
00:22:47.700 for 20 years.
00:22:48.500 He was talking
00:22:48.900 about welfare
00:22:49.440 benefits that
00:22:49.980 were being
00:22:50.280 paid to
00:22:50.600 someone that
00:22:51.140 was technically
00:22:51.560 150 years old.
00:22:52.920 He was talking
00:22:53.240 about line items
00:22:54.320 that had no
00:22:55.400 justification.
00:22:55.780 He doesn't
00:22:57.160 present any
00:22:57.520 actual evidence.
00:22:58.100 He's standing
00:22:58.620 there in the
00:22:59.300 Oval Office.
00:22:59.880 Do you expect
00:23:00.180 him to come
00:23:00.520 in with
00:23:00.880 10,000 pages?
00:23:02.240 And I have
00:23:02.820 to be clear,
00:23:03.760 to complain
00:23:04.320 about this
00:23:04.800 administration
00:23:05.260 about transparency
00:23:06.120 when this
00:23:06.960 president takes
00:23:07.480 open questions
00:23:08.300 on a daily
00:23:08.980 basis,
00:23:09.780 yet Joe
00:23:10.120 Biden didn't
00:23:10.600 show up for
00:23:10.920 a press
00:23:11.200 conference
00:23:11.520 since six
00:23:11.920 months,
00:23:12.380 is insane.
00:23:13.320 These guys
00:23:13.740 are being
00:23:14.020 extremely
00:23:14.780 transparent.
00:23:15.660 They don't
00:23:15.900 have to sit
00:23:16.300 there and
00:23:16.540 take the
00:23:16.780 questions,
00:23:17.140 but they do.
00:23:17.860 It's all
00:23:18.380 on the
00:23:18.600 website.
00:23:19.040 It's all
00:23:19.320 out there.
00:23:19.860 It's not
00:23:20.300 transparency to
00:23:22.020 say things that
00:23:23.440 have no
00:23:24.040 factual background.
00:23:25.200 To say we're
00:23:26.100 cutting,
00:23:26.880 we've found
00:23:27.480 a billion dollars
00:23:28.300 or a trillion
00:23:28.960 dollars in waste
00:23:29.880 with no
00:23:30.640 specifics,
00:23:31.320 that's just
00:23:31.860 talk.
00:23:32.680 That's not
00:23:33.060 transparency.
00:23:33.900 It's 23 days
00:23:34.820 in here,
00:23:35.300 guys.
00:23:35.720 23 days.
00:23:36.520 You were
00:23:37.160 talking about
00:23:37.540 2.3 billion
00:23:38.540 that was saved
00:23:39.120 last year.
00:23:39.700 These guys are
00:23:40.180 saving 2.3
00:23:40.880 billion a day.
00:23:42.640 It's incredible.
00:23:43.640 That's what
00:23:43.900 they're saying.
00:23:45.400 But where's
00:23:46.000 the proof?
00:23:46.660 You're not
00:23:47.760 going to be
00:23:48.100 satisfied until
00:23:48.720 he shows up
00:23:49.160 with 10,000
00:23:49.680 pages.
00:23:52.620 He's giving
00:23:53.220 very specific
00:23:53.880 things,
00:23:54.500 but he's not
00:23:55.180 actually giving
00:23:55.720 any evidence
00:23:56.380 of that.
00:23:57.040 It's all
00:23:57.640 going to come
00:23:58.000 because what
00:23:58.440 they also said
00:23:59.120 was if we
00:23:59.800 have to go to
00:24:00.200 Congress,
00:24:00.520 we'll go to
00:24:00.800 Congress.
00:24:01.240 We'll show
00:24:01.860 where it is.
00:24:02.160 Some of the
00:24:02.520 details that
00:24:03.020 have come out,
00:24:03.920 like the $59
00:24:05.760 million spent on
00:24:07.340 luxury hotels,
00:24:08.800 it's actually
00:24:09.340 not...
00:24:10.360 You're talking
00:24:10.540 about the FEMA
00:24:11.000 money that was
00:24:11.500 abused for
00:24:11.980 migrants?
00:24:12.480 That was FEMA
00:24:13.820 money for
00:24:14.280 migrants?
00:24:14.660 That's okay
00:24:15.140 now?
00:24:15.420 No, I'm
00:24:15.900 not saying it's
00:24:17.520 okay.
00:24:17.860 Don't put words
00:24:18.300 in my mouth.
00:24:18.520 Would you stop
00:24:19.180 that?
00:24:19.520 Would you stop
00:24:20.140 that process?
00:24:20.960 Don't be a
00:24:21.520 dick.
00:24:21.680 What I'm
00:24:22.960 saying is the
00:24:23.620 portrayal by
00:24:24.960 him is...
00:24:26.020 I just got to
00:24:27.120 say, this is
00:24:28.540 from my seven
00:24:29.960 years in hell
00:24:30.640 at CNN.
00:24:31.640 When the hosts
00:24:32.620 start cursing at
00:24:33.720 you, Don
00:24:34.300 Lemon lost it
00:24:35.120 on me one
00:24:35.600 night, screaming
00:24:36.300 that is BS,
00:24:37.760 that is BS, but
00:24:38.440 saying the full
00:24:38.960 thing.
00:24:39.460 When you see
00:24:40.280 Anderson Cooper
00:24:41.020 get rattled like
00:24:41.920 this, this is
00:24:42.680 when you know
00:24:43.240 they're losing
00:24:44.260 America and
00:24:45.560 they feel it and
00:24:46.380 they're witnessing
00:24:46.940 it because they're
00:24:48.240 part of this
00:24:48.920 cover-up center
00:24:49.720 and now they
00:24:50.720 realize how
00:24:51.540 stupid their
00:24:52.300 argument is that
00:24:53.000 well, we didn't
00:24:53.620 see a piece of
00:24:54.240 paper with it on
00:24:54.900 there.
00:24:55.360 What, you think
00:24:55.960 Elon Musk is
00:24:56.600 sitting there
00:24:56.960 making this up
00:24:57.620 in the Oval
00:24:58.040 Office?
00:24:58.460 Like, what's
00:24:58.860 wrong with you
00:24:59.320 guys?
00:24:59.520 And by the
00:24:59.780 way, you
00:25:00.060 guys never
00:25:00.780 questioned
00:25:01.300 anything that
00:25:02.460 was shady with
00:25:03.300 the Biden
00:25:03.660 administration when
00:25:04.500 you knew it
00:25:04.880 was shady.
00:25:05.900 Yeah, look,
00:25:06.660 number one, you
00:25:07.360 see Jeffrey
00:25:07.820 Toobin jumping
00:25:08.460 in, screaming,
00:25:09.180 that's not
00:25:09.560 transparency.
00:25:10.720 Trump is
00:25:11.060 literally doing
00:25:11.560 a press
00:25:11.880 conference every
00:25:12.500 day.
00:25:12.800 They're putting
00:25:13.120 all of this
00:25:13.740 out for everyone
00:25:14.360 to see.
00:25:14.760 They're giving
00:25:15.340 chapter and
00:25:16.420 verse and
00:25:16.900 specifics.
00:25:17.780 And you see
00:25:19.220 Anderson Cooper
00:25:19.820 at the end
00:25:20.360 where he just
00:25:20.920 curses and
00:25:22.300 melts down and
00:25:24.120 insults a
00:25:26.340 former governor
00:25:26.860 by the way.
00:25:27.900 Yeah, I mean,
00:25:28.620 to be clear,
00:25:30.460 that is, the
00:25:32.600 reason Anderson
00:25:33.400 Cooper does that
00:25:34.220 is he realizes
00:25:35.080 he's in a
00:25:35.740 completely
00:25:36.240 indefensible
00:25:36.860 position.
00:25:37.480 He's defending
00:25:38.240 the prior
00:25:39.600 administration,
00:25:40.680 diverting funds
00:25:41.480 from FEMA.
00:25:42.100 By the way,
00:25:42.860 funds that FEMA
00:25:43.560 are supposed to
00:25:44.300 use to
00:25:44.740 deal with a
00:25:45.160 natural disaster,
00:25:46.240 whether wildfires
00:25:47.380 in California
00:25:48.200 or a hurricane
00:25:48.980 or tornadoes
00:25:49.720 or other
00:25:49.980 natural disaster.
00:25:51.440 And the
00:25:52.100 prior administration
00:25:53.200 took those
00:25:53.860 disaster funds
00:25:54.700 and instead
00:25:55.480 used them to
00:25:56.100 pay for hotel
00:25:56.820 rooms for
00:25:57.340 illegal aliens.
00:25:58.240 And Anderson
00:25:58.900 Cooper realized,
00:25:59.740 wait a second,
00:26:00.240 I'm defending
00:26:00.740 something that
00:26:01.300 is so absurd
00:26:02.280 that even the
00:26:04.400 four viewers
00:26:05.040 who are watching
00:26:05.620 CNN are going
00:26:06.440 to know it's
00:26:06.940 absurd, and
00:26:07.820 that's why he
00:26:08.400 melts down.
00:26:09.560 And I got to
00:26:10.360 say, the fact
00:26:12.120 that President
00:26:12.900 Trump is
00:26:13.620 standing up,
00:26:14.500 and delivering
00:26:15.600 real cuts
00:26:16.920 that is taking
00:26:18.020 on this waste
00:26:18.840 fraud and abuse,
00:26:20.140 the fact that
00:26:21.620 Anderson Cooper
00:26:22.360 is melting down,
00:26:23.280 that shows
00:26:23.760 President Trump
00:26:24.500 is winning,
00:26:25.640 that shows
00:26:26.180 Elon Musk
00:26:26.820 is winning,
00:26:27.540 and that shows
00:26:28.340 the American
00:26:28.740 people are
00:26:29.200 winning.
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00:27:09.860 I want to get
00:27:10.680 back to the
00:27:11.340 big story,
00:27:12.300 number three of
00:27:12.860 the week you
00:27:13.300 may have
00:27:13.580 missed.
00:27:14.280 I want to
00:27:14.640 move to
00:27:15.140 USAID and
00:27:17.560 some of the
00:27:18.620 big issues
00:27:19.520 that are now
00:27:20.040 coming out of
00:27:20.900 that.
00:27:21.760 And it deals
00:27:22.320 also with the
00:27:23.300 issue of
00:27:23.720 terrorism.
00:27:24.820 We got some
00:27:25.340 shocking
00:27:25.940 news that
00:27:26.740 has come
00:27:27.120 out.
00:27:27.500 It's
00:27:27.840 something,
00:27:28.240 by the
00:27:28.380 way,
00:27:28.660 that I
00:27:28.880 think we
00:27:29.280 need to
00:27:29.600 point out
00:27:30.120 very clearly.
00:27:30.860 You had
00:27:31.400 been talking
00:27:32.020 about this
00:27:32.640 now for
00:27:33.300 several years
00:27:34.120 in Congress
00:27:35.240 and on this
00:27:36.140 show.
00:27:37.040 And thank
00:27:37.840 goodness now
00:27:38.940 at least all
00:27:40.180 of it seems
00:27:40.820 to be being
00:27:41.340 exposed because
00:27:42.500 of the digging
00:27:43.180 with Doge and
00:27:43.900 the Trump
00:27:44.240 administration back
00:27:45.100 in office.
00:27:45.780 Well, there
00:27:46.440 was a lengthy
00:27:46.880 tweet that I
00:27:47.520 sent this week
00:27:48.260 that said the
00:27:49.140 following.
00:27:49.880 The full story
00:27:50.520 of USAID
00:27:51.420 funding Hamas
00:27:52.540 is vast and
00:27:54.080 much of it
00:27:54.660 was done in
00:27:55.500 secret.
00:27:56.520 Before and
00:27:57.000 after October
00:27:57.680 7th, the
00:27:58.320 USAID
00:27:59.040 flowed
00:27:59.660 unaccountable
00:28:00.400 hundreds of
00:28:01.200 millions of
00:28:01.660 dollars towards
00:28:02.340 Hamas that
00:28:03.580 enabled it to
00:28:04.400 launch the
00:28:04.900 attack and
00:28:05.600 keep battling
00:28:06.320 Israel afterwards.
00:28:08.020 They lied
00:28:08.780 about the
00:28:09.160 nature of
00:28:09.580 that aid in
00:28:10.140 public
00:28:10.420 databases,
00:28:11.920 refused to
00:28:12.680 disclose what
00:28:13.520 groups were
00:28:14.080 getting the
00:28:14.480 money, and
00:28:15.600 gave tens of
00:28:16.600 millions in
00:28:17.120 American cash
00:28:17.940 to be
00:28:18.220 distributed
00:28:18.740 without
00:28:19.720 American
00:28:20.420 supervision.
00:28:21.100 They
00:28:22.240 internally
00:28:22.840 admitted the
00:28:24.120 aid would
00:28:24.560 benefit Hamas
00:28:25.440 and even
00:28:26.700 exempted
00:28:27.380 themselves from
00:28:28.040 anti-terrorism
00:28:28.960 laws, but
00:28:30.220 in public
00:28:30.880 issued
00:28:31.880 denials.
00:28:33.040 For all
00:28:34.000 four years of
00:28:34.900 the Biden
00:28:35.240 administration, I
00:28:36.540 prevented them
00:28:37.320 from confirming a
00:28:38.320 Middle East
00:28:38.780 administrator because
00:28:40.400 they wouldn't
00:28:41.080 acknowledge what
00:28:41.800 they were doing
00:28:42.480 because continuing
00:28:44.160 their secret
00:28:45.120 pro-Hamas
00:28:45.840 programs was
00:28:47.380 more important
00:28:48.020 to them.
00:28:49.520 And I'll
00:28:50.220 tell you, there
00:28:50.720 was a major
00:28:52.160 article in the
00:28:52.880 Washington Free
00:28:53.540 Beacon that I
00:28:55.120 tweeted out as
00:28:55.860 well, and it's
00:28:56.680 an article my
00:28:57.320 team and I
00:28:57.980 provided a
00:28:59.040 significant amount
00:28:59.720 of the
00:28:59.940 information to
00:29:00.800 the Washington
00:29:01.320 Free Beacon,
00:29:02.080 but it's
00:29:02.620 entitled,
00:29:03.880 At USAID,
00:29:05.700 funding for
00:29:06.340 terror-tied
00:29:06.940 groups and
00:29:07.960 internal
00:29:08.440 hostility towards
00:29:09.540 Israel goes
00:29:10.980 back years.
00:29:12.700 One former
00:29:13.280 State Department
00:29:13.880 official described
00:29:15.040 a lack of
00:29:16.100 embarrassment
00:29:16.780 among some
00:29:18.380 USAID staffers
00:29:19.980 about being
00:29:21.100 associated with
00:29:22.460 terrorist
00:29:22.860 organizations.
00:29:24.060 And I'm
00:29:24.340 going to read
00:29:24.740 from the
00:29:25.100 beginning of
00:29:25.460 this article
00:29:25.940 because it's
00:29:26.440 an important
00:29:26.880 article and
00:29:27.400 the facts in
00:29:27.980 it are very
00:29:28.460 disturbing.
00:29:29.500 As the
00:29:29.840 Trump
00:29:30.060 administration
00:29:30.640 works to
00:29:31.220 shutter the
00:29:31.700 United States
00:29:33.240 Agency for
00:29:33.920 International
00:29:34.360 Development,
00:29:35.080 USAID,
00:29:36.500 current and
00:29:37.000 former U.S.
00:29:37.680 officials who
00:29:38.160 work closely
00:29:38.740 with the
00:29:39.080 embattled aid
00:29:39.720 group say
00:29:40.740 they watched
00:29:41.340 for years as
00:29:42.800 it funneled
00:29:43.460 millions of
00:29:44.160 dollars to
00:29:44.760 anti-Israel
00:29:45.600 advocacy groups
00:29:46.680 and entities
00:29:47.860 linked to
00:29:48.440 terrorism.
00:29:49.440 That funding
00:29:49.980 caused internal
00:29:50.780 friction across
00:29:51.560 multiple
00:29:52.040 administrations
00:29:52.920 according to
00:29:53.960 those who
00:29:54.400 spoke with
00:29:54.960 the Washington
00:29:55.460 Free Beacon.
00:29:56.460 In some
00:29:56.800 cases USAID
00:29:58.660 fought to
00:29:59.240 conceal how
00:29:59.920 taxpayer funds
00:30:00.780 were spent.
00:30:01.660 And when it
00:30:01.920 came to
00:30:02.260 Israel officials
00:30:03.620 recalled battling
00:30:04.640 USAID over
00:30:05.960 funding for
00:30:06.620 groups that
00:30:07.680 worked to
00:30:08.300 undermine the
00:30:08.980 Jewish state
00:30:09.640 or maintain
00:30:10.560 ties to
00:30:11.360 terror
00:30:11.660 organizations.
00:30:12.940 Quote,
00:30:13.460 for those who
00:30:14.020 believe in a
00:30:14.540 strong U.S.-Israel
00:30:15.560 relationship,
00:30:16.880 elements of
00:30:17.440 USAID had
00:30:18.520 been problematic
00:30:19.120 for years,
00:30:20.120 said one
00:30:20.660 former State
00:30:21.280 Department
00:30:21.640 official who
00:30:22.740 worked with
00:30:23.220 USAID during
00:30:24.620 the Biden
00:30:25.100 administration.
00:30:26.060 Quote,
00:30:26.760 there was even
00:30:27.620 a lack of
00:30:28.240 embarrassment
00:30:28.740 among some
00:30:29.440 USAID
00:30:30.180 staffers about
00:30:31.560 being associated
00:30:32.540 with terrorist
00:30:33.260 organizations.
00:30:34.780 Some of the
00:30:35.200 terror-tied funding
00:30:36.080 initiatives are
00:30:36.760 publicly known.
00:30:37.960 In November
00:30:38.340 2022, for
00:30:39.400 instance,
00:30:40.500 USAID awarded
00:30:41.860 $100,000 to a
00:30:43.640 Palestinian activist
00:30:44.800 group whose
00:30:45.900 leaders hailed the
00:30:48.280 Popular Front for
00:30:49.500 the Liberation of
00:30:50.360 Palestine, a
00:30:51.940 designated terror
00:30:53.000 group.
00:30:53.760 Just six days
00:30:55.640 before Hamas'
00:30:57.320 October 7th
00:30:58.280 assault on
00:30:58.820 Israel, USAID
00:31:00.640 handed $900,000
00:31:02.540 to a terror
00:31:04.520 charity in
00:31:06.760 Gaza involved
00:31:08.640 with the son
00:31:09.560 of Hamas
00:31:10.160 leader Ismail
00:31:11.240 Hanaye.
00:31:11.740 USAID's
00:31:13.420 hostilities
00:31:13.980 towards the
00:31:14.500 Jewish state,
00:31:15.180 however, ran
00:31:16.480 deeper than
00:31:17.560 the agency's
00:31:18.260 grant-making.
00:31:19.260 Under Samantha
00:31:19.820 Power, former
00:31:20.600 President Joe
00:31:21.520 Biden's pick to
00:31:22.520 run USAID,
00:31:24.580 agency officials
00:31:25.460 fought pro-Israel
00:31:26.800 policymaking at
00:31:27.860 the State
00:31:28.220 Department, often
00:31:29.860 urging their
00:31:30.480 colleagues at
00:31:31.060 Foggy Bottom to
00:31:32.000 pare down
00:31:32.460 statements that
00:31:33.320 praised the
00:31:34.080 Jewish state,
00:31:35.380 former officials
00:31:36.000 said.
00:31:36.680 In 2021, during
00:31:38.100 a period of
00:31:38.680 conflict with
00:31:39.260 Hamas, Power
00:31:40.800 herself refused
00:31:42.020 to meet with
00:31:43.020 Israel's
00:31:43.580 ambassador unless
00:31:45.240 Israel reached a
00:31:46.460 ceasefire with
00:31:47.960 the Iran-backed
00:31:49.180 terror group.
00:31:50.180 The decision put
00:31:51.020 Power at odds
00:31:51.900 with the White
00:31:52.420 House National
00:31:53.020 Security Council,
00:31:54.740 which signed
00:31:55.620 off on the
00:31:56.300 meeting, emails
00:31:57.100 obtained by the
00:31:57.960 Free Beacon
00:31:58.460 show.
00:31:59.200 It is shocking
00:32:00.680 to hear you read
00:32:01.960 that, and yet
00:32:02.760 it's so well
00:32:03.860 documented.
00:32:05.160 It's something
00:32:05.780 that you've been
00:32:06.300 sounding the alarm
00:32:06.920 on for a while.
00:32:07.800 Now, because of a
00:32:08.660 new administration,
00:32:09.300 we're actually
00:32:09.780 getting some
00:32:10.280 movement on
00:32:10.900 this, but how
00:32:13.220 angry should
00:32:14.080 Americans be that
00:32:15.480 their tax dollars
00:32:16.420 have been going to
00:32:18.260 terrorist organizations
00:32:20.120 through these
00:32:20.880 funnel, through
00:32:21.700 these charities
00:32:22.700 and other groups,
00:32:24.380 and there were
00:32:25.140 warnings, meaning
00:32:25.960 that the
00:32:26.540 government, Biden
00:32:27.480 and Harris and
00:32:28.040 their team, they
00:32:29.340 knew the money was
00:32:30.320 ending up with
00:32:30.920 these people.
00:32:31.500 This wasn't a
00:32:32.120 one-off, this
00:32:32.760 wasn't an accident,
00:32:33.760 this was deliberate.
00:32:35.480 Well, they knew it
00:32:36.180 and they actively
00:32:36.960 hit it.
00:32:37.520 Let me read a
00:32:38.320 little more from
00:32:38.900 this Free Beacon
00:32:39.460 article.
00:32:40.160 A January memo
00:32:41.080 from Inspector
00:32:41.900 General Paul
00:32:42.600 Martin noted
00:32:44.020 that the agency
00:32:44.980 quote, does not
00:32:46.080 maintain a
00:32:46.900 comprehensive internal
00:32:47.980 database of
00:32:49.440 sub-awardees.
00:32:51.540 In other words,
00:32:52.300 the foreign
00:32:52.680 entities that
00:32:53.400 work with a
00:32:54.160 primary grantee
00:32:55.280 on a USAID
00:32:56.240 project often
00:32:57.840 go unreported,
00:32:59.620 impeding the
00:33:00.520 ability of the
00:33:01.240 agency investigators
00:33:02.400 to vet fraud
00:33:04.240 allegations,
00:33:05.080 according to the
00:33:05.640 memo.
00:33:05.860 such allegations
00:33:07.620 often include
00:33:08.740 the diversion
00:33:09.320 of taxpayer-funded
00:33:10.420 aid to
00:33:11.520 terrorist
00:33:11.940 organizations.
00:33:13.320 In a November
00:33:14.360 report, for
00:33:15.100 example, Martin
00:33:16.180 quote, identified
00:33:17.780 deliberate
00:33:18.320 interference and
00:33:19.420 efforts to
00:33:20.140 divert humanitarian
00:33:21.280 assistance by
00:33:22.820 foreign terrorist
00:33:23.880 organizations,
00:33:25.280 including systemic
00:33:27.200 coercion of aid
00:33:28.500 workers by FTOs,
00:33:30.500 foreign terrorist
00:33:31.040 organizations, and
00:33:32.160 FTO influence
00:33:34.560 over beneficiary
00:33:36.660 selection, these
00:33:38.220 diversion efforts
00:33:39.060 are particularly
00:33:39.740 pronounced in
00:33:40.980 Hamas-controlled
00:33:41.860 Gaza.
00:33:42.320 A February report
00:33:44.040 from the Middle
00:33:44.920 East Forum
00:33:45.600 think tank found
00:33:46.780 that the USAID
00:33:47.900 had awarded
00:33:49.480 millions of
00:33:50.700 dollars to
00:33:51.960 organizations directly
00:33:53.720 in Gaza
00:33:54.600 controlled by
00:33:55.940 Hamas.
00:33:56.660 Let me read that
00:33:57.500 again.
00:33:58.320 A February report
00:33:59.620 from the Middle
00:34:00.760 East Forum
00:34:01.380 think tank found
00:34:02.740 that USAID had
00:34:04.240 awarded millions
00:34:05.580 of federal
00:34:06.540 dollars to
00:34:07.840 organizations
00:34:08.680 directly in
00:34:09.800 Gaza controlled
00:34:11.100 by Hamas.
00:34:12.480 And it
00:34:12.720 continues, in
00:34:14.000 one Biden-eric
00:34:15.080 case, USAID
00:34:16.540 funded an
00:34:17.420 educational and
00:34:18.980 community center
00:34:20.100 in Gaza
00:34:21.140 controlled by
00:34:23.060 a local group
00:34:24.680 called the
00:34:25.940 Unlimited
00:34:26.600 Friends
00:34:27.200 Association.
00:34:28.000 The association
00:34:29.220 openly collaborated
00:34:30.640 with Hamas
00:34:31.340 inviting the
00:34:32.500 terror group's
00:34:33.260 officials to
00:34:33.900 its office
00:34:34.480 and boasting
00:34:36.040 of U.S.-funded
00:34:37.120 projects in
00:34:37.980 Hamas-controlled
00:34:39.100 newspapers.
00:34:40.480 In 2021,
00:34:42.220 its director
00:34:42.940 called for
00:34:43.720 Jerusalem to
00:34:44.640 be cleansed
00:34:45.960 quote,
00:34:47.060 from the
00:34:47.640 impurity
00:34:48.300 of the Jews.
00:34:50.560 This is who
00:34:51.780 Joe Biden
00:34:52.860 and the
00:34:53.160 Democrats
00:34:53.600 were sending
00:34:54.740 millions of
00:34:55.420 dollars to
00:34:56.120 and this is who
00:34:57.200 they were
00:34:57.480 covering it up.
00:34:58.580 Not only were
00:34:59.080 they covering
00:34:59.620 it up, but
00:35:00.340 this has a
00:35:01.180 USAID has a
00:35:02.800 long history
00:35:03.620 that's now
00:35:04.260 well documented
00:35:05.220 of them
00:35:06.500 helping
00:35:07.780 radicals.
00:35:08.900 And one of
00:35:09.540 the things you
00:35:10.020 and I talked
00:35:10.520 about before
00:35:11.020 the show
00:35:11.580 was another
00:35:12.800 just totally
00:35:13.640 insane aspect
00:35:14.900 of this and
00:35:15.480 that included
00:35:16.080 paying for
00:35:16.920 terrorist
00:35:17.520 college funds.
00:35:19.600 Well, that
00:35:20.080 is exactly
00:35:20.960 right and it
00:35:21.700 is a stunning
00:35:22.720 story.
00:35:23.620 So this is
00:35:24.340 something that's
00:35:24.880 been reported
00:35:25.440 in Fox News
00:35:26.240 and the New
00:35:27.120 York Post.
00:35:27.740 Here's what
00:35:27.980 the New York
00:35:28.300 Post said.
00:35:29.080 USAID
00:35:29.920 reportedly
00:35:30.580 bankrolled
00:35:31.240 Al-Qaeda
00:35:31.820 terrorist
00:35:32.460 college
00:35:33.260 tuition.
00:35:34.700 Unearthed
00:35:35.180 records
00:35:35.560 showed.
00:35:37.400 USAID
00:35:38.320 American
00:35:38.900 board
00:35:39.340 jihadist
00:35:40.120 Anwar
00:35:41.200 Al-Awlaki
00:35:42.000 received
00:35:43.440 full funding
00:35:44.980 to attend
00:35:46.300 Colorado State
00:35:47.260 University
00:35:47.920 in 1990.
00:35:49.540 USAID
00:35:50.200 documents
00:35:50.800 obtained
00:35:51.100 by Fox
00:35:51.620 News
00:35:51.880 showed.
00:35:53.020 Now who
00:35:53.560 is Anwar
00:35:54.080 Al-Awlaki?
00:35:54.980 He is a
00:35:55.680 notorious
00:35:56.280 terrorist,
00:35:57.060 so notorious
00:35:57.740 that President
00:35:58.980 Barack Obama
00:35:59.840 ordered him
00:36:00.500 killed in
00:36:01.960 a U.S.
00:36:02.540 airstrike in
00:36:03.360 Yemen 20
00:36:04.020 years later.
00:36:05.520 The documents
00:36:06.180 revealed that
00:36:06.900 Al-Awlaki,
00:36:08.180 who was born
00:36:08.780 in Las Cruces,
00:36:09.660 New Mexico,
00:36:10.940 lied on his
00:36:11.720 application and
00:36:12.620 claimed that he
00:36:13.280 was born in
00:36:13.880 Yemen,
00:36:14.900 apparently so he
00:36:15.920 would be eligible
00:36:16.720 for the federal
00:36:17.580 tuition funding
00:36:18.720 worth more than
00:36:20.320 $27,000 at the
00:36:22.340 time.
00:36:22.660 That was 1990.
00:36:23.440 tuition and
00:36:24.180 fees for an
00:36:25.180 international
00:36:25.660 student at
00:36:27.380 the university
00:36:28.500 today would be
00:36:29.500 nearly 10
00:36:30.240 times that.
00:36:31.800 Using the
00:36:32.340 education USAID
00:36:33.660 provided him,
00:36:34.980 he earned a
00:36:35.540 bachelor's in
00:36:36.180 civil engineering
00:36:36.940 in 1994.
00:36:38.760 Al-Awlaki would
00:36:39.480 go on to teach
00:36:40.160 Islam at mosques
00:36:41.220 across the country
00:36:42.140 from Denver to
00:36:42.940 San Diego and
00:36:43.620 Virginia, where
00:36:45.360 U.S.
00:36:45.720 officials believe
00:36:46.780 he used his
00:36:47.500 platform to
00:36:48.760 radicalize and
00:36:49.940 recruit terrorists.
00:36:51.060 And understand,
00:36:51.840 Al-Awlaki is
00:36:53.220 directly implicated
00:36:54.580 in, number
00:36:56.300 one, at the
00:36:56.920 San Diego
00:36:57.380 mosque.
00:36:57.900 He met the
00:36:58.520 9-11 hijackers
00:36:59.900 Nawaf al-Hazmi
00:37:01.600 and Khalid al-Midhar,
00:37:04.080 two of the men
00:37:04.660 who flew flight
00:37:05.460 77 into the
00:37:06.640 Pentagon on
00:37:08.800 9-11.
00:37:10.020 And he was
00:37:11.080 arrested in
00:37:12.200 2006 for his
00:37:14.420 terrorist ties in
00:37:15.440 Yemen.
00:37:16.540 And three years
00:37:17.420 later, Anwal al-Awlaki
00:37:18.880 communicated with
00:37:20.600 Nadal Hassan, who
00:37:21.900 murdered 14
00:37:23.000 innocent souls at
00:37:24.800 Fort Hood.
00:37:26.040 Anwal al-Awlaki was
00:37:27.280 also tied to the
00:37:28.280 underwear bomber,
00:37:29.800 Umar Farouk
00:37:31.120 Abdal-Mittalab, who
00:37:33.340 tried to blow up a
00:37:34.700 Detroit-bound
00:37:35.620 Northwest Airlines
00:37:36.820 flight on Christmas
00:37:37.860 Day 2009 with
00:37:40.100 bombs hidden in his
00:37:41.600 shorts.
00:37:42.240 This is who USAID
00:37:44.540 said, you know
00:37:45.200 what, we're going to
00:37:46.600 pay for you to get a
00:37:47.600 college degree.
00:37:48.440 What in the hell are
00:37:49.880 these people doing?
00:37:50.980 So the question that
00:37:52.040 I got to ask finally
00:37:53.080 on this to wrap it
00:37:54.800 up and people that
00:37:55.680 are listening are
00:37:56.160 going to say, number
00:37:56.860 one, how did this
00:37:59.620 A, happen, but even
00:38:01.060 more so, how are
00:38:02.780 people not going to
00:38:04.080 jail for knowingly
00:38:06.100 giving American
00:38:07.040 taxpayer dollars to
00:38:09.040 terrorists?
00:38:09.820 I mean, if you are
00:38:10.780 working in our
00:38:11.460 government, even if
00:38:12.860 it's under the
00:38:13.400 direction of the
00:38:14.060 Biden-Harris regime
00:38:15.140 at the time, and
00:38:16.580 you're sending out
00:38:17.300 money that you know
00:38:18.120 is going to
00:38:18.680 terrorists around
00:38:19.420 the world, is
00:38:20.760 that not like
00:38:21.620 breaking some law,
00:38:23.040 Senator?
00:38:23.760 Well, look, that's a
00:38:24.560 question that I think
00:38:25.260 is going to have to
00:38:25.760 be investigated and
00:38:26.840 examined.
00:38:27.640 You know, I will say
00:38:28.640 U.S.
00:38:29.040 anti-terrorism laws
00:38:30.220 prohibit sending money
00:38:31.380 that goes to
00:38:31.960 terrorism.
00:38:32.340 And in fact, the
00:38:34.140 Biden administration
00:38:35.040 made a formal
00:38:35.860 assessment and they
00:38:36.780 concluded that sending
00:38:37.700 the money to Gaza,
00:38:39.320 that it was very
00:38:41.040 likely that money
00:38:42.240 would be used by
00:38:43.120 Hamas for
00:38:43.720 terrorism.
00:38:44.220 Now, ordinarily,
00:38:45.320 when you make that
00:38:45.980 determination, under
00:38:47.900 American anti-terrorism
00:38:49.560 law, you don't send
00:38:50.260 the money.
00:38:50.620 You can't send the
00:38:51.240 money once you
00:38:51.820 determine that it's
00:38:52.520 likely it'll go to
00:38:53.260 terrorism.
00:38:54.280 However, the way the
00:38:55.400 law is written, the
00:38:56.860 president has the
00:38:57.780 authority to waive that
00:38:59.420 provision, and that's
00:39:00.280 exactly what they did
00:39:01.360 because they made a
00:39:02.160 determination that
00:39:03.840 their radical politics
00:39:05.640 were more important
00:39:07.220 than stopping
00:39:08.560 terrorists from
00:39:09.640 murdering American
00:39:10.540 citizens and
00:39:11.320 murdering Israeli
00:39:12.060 citizens.
00:39:12.580 And tragically, the
00:39:14.160 entire world saw the
00:39:15.280 consequences of that
00:39:16.400 radicalism on October
00:39:18.040 7th.
00:39:19.040 Do you think there
00:39:20.180 will be any
00:39:20.740 accountability for this
00:39:21.900 or is this going to be
00:39:22.580 another one of those
00:39:23.280 where, hey, we were in
00:39:24.380 charge, so we got
00:39:25.260 away with it?
00:39:26.880 Look, I certainly hope
00:39:27.820 there will be
00:39:28.220 accountability, but at a
00:39:29.300 minimum, we're seeing
00:39:30.000 accountability in
00:39:31.420 President Trump and
00:39:32.340 Elon Musk shutting
00:39:34.080 down these programs at
00:39:35.740 USAID.
00:39:36.640 I think that is very
00:39:37.460 good, and my hope and
00:39:38.440 expectations is that
00:39:40.020 Congress will come
00:39:40.920 along and we will pass
00:39:42.220 legislation, presumably
00:39:43.500 as a part of budget
00:39:45.000 reconciliation later
00:39:46.220 this year, to codify
00:39:48.160 these cuts and
00:39:49.200 eliminate the waste
00:39:50.460 fraud and abuse.
00:39:51.460 And Senator, you
00:39:52.440 mentioned, you know,
00:39:53.420 the corruption and
00:39:54.780 what the president's
00:39:56.200 doing to clean it up.
00:39:57.160 As always, thank you
00:39:58.660 for listening to
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