Verdict with Ted Cruz - March 12, 2025


Dems Go ALL IN Defending Pro-Hamas Protestors, plus DOGE Discovers Hundreds of Millions in Biden Payments to Children & Dead People


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26 minutes

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158.0659

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4,180

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303

Misogynist Sentences

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Hate Speech Sentences

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Transcript

00:00:00.000 This is an iHeart Podcast.
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00:00:05.400 Welcome. It is Verdict with Senator Ted Cruz, Ben Ferguson with you.
00:00:09.400 And Senator, do we have one heck of a show, including Democrats calling for the release of the pro-Hamas protester that has been arrested?
00:00:21.300 Look, there's an old saying, tell me who you stand with and I'll tell you who you are.
00:00:25.480 The Trump administration is rightly going after radical pro-Hamas protesters who have disrupted college campuses with anti-Semitic protests.
00:00:37.060 The Democrats' response is to stand with the pro-Hamas protesters.
00:00:42.920 To make clear, today's Democrat Party, if you are a Jewish student at a university, today's Democrat Party does not stand with you.
00:00:51.660 I wish that were not the case, but it is the reality.
00:00:54.040 If you are a radical pro-Hamas protester whose chants, we love Hamas, who threatens Jewish students, who engages in violence and unrest, today's Democrat Party, they have your back.
00:01:08.680 You might think that's hyperbole.
00:01:10.080 We're going to lay out the facts, demonstrate that's true.
00:01:12.580 Not only that, but we've got two other stories tonight.
00:01:15.120 We have Doge uncovering that the Biden administration gave hundreds of millions of dollars of loans and grants to children, to little kids.
00:01:27.160 You want to talk about fraud?
00:01:28.480 That's what Doge is uncovering.
00:01:30.260 And finally, we have the Trump administration going after illegal immigrants, using the CPB1 app to be an app for self-deportation.
00:01:40.820 We are going to secure the border.
00:01:42.640 We're going to remove illegal immigrants.
00:01:44.440 We're going to tell you all about that today.
00:01:46.580 Yeah, it's really a great story, and we'll have that for you in a moment.
00:01:49.180 I want to talk to you real quick, though, about the International Fellowship of Christians and Jews.
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00:03:18.200 So, Senator, let's take people back in time to a campaign promise from the president.
00:03:22.940 He made it clear that if you are one of these students that is from overseas that has gotten a special invitation, the ability to come and study in America,
00:03:33.240 and you are on campuses and you're, you know, actually going out there and advocating for violence and taking over buildings on college campuses,
00:03:44.660 we're going to kick you out of this country.
00:03:47.100 Well, guess what?
00:03:47.960 There was one radical on a college campus.
00:03:50.880 This is exactly what happened as ICE detained, and they said, look, we're going to revoke your green card,
00:03:56.320 and now Democrats are protesting the arrest of this Syrian radical in New York.
00:04:02.100 Yeah, it really is astonishing.
00:04:04.760 And let's look at what happened in the United States following October 7th.
00:04:09.220 Following October 7th, we saw protests on college campuses across this country,
00:04:13.540 predominantly in left-wing college campuses in blue states where radical pro-Hamas protesters stood up and they denounced Israel.
00:04:24.380 They chanted things like, we love Hamas.
00:04:27.420 We are Hamas.
00:04:28.800 They threatened Jewish students.
00:04:31.080 They engaged in acts of violence, and they threatened even more acts of violence.
00:04:35.600 And astonishingly, Ben, the Democrats were silent.
00:04:40.180 You know, there are some folks who said in the wake of these protests, well, gosh, it's terrible, but they're happening all over the country.
00:04:47.020 That's not right.
00:04:48.440 They were only happening in blue states with blue elected officials.
00:04:53.480 They happened in New York, Connecticut, New Jersey, Pennsylvania, Illinois, California, Washington State.
00:05:03.620 They didn't happen to Florida.
00:05:04.960 They didn't happen in Texas.
00:05:06.140 Actually, in Texas, we briefly had protesters at the University of Texas,
00:05:10.500 and officials sent in police officers that arrested them all, and it was done within a day.
00:05:16.860 The places that it happened, it happened because the university administrators agreed with the protesters,
00:05:22.640 and the elected officials, they had been indoctrinated in the leftist ideology that said Israel is the bad guy and Hamas is the good guy.
00:05:32.720 Now, one of the things you and I have talked about at length, and by the way, if you did not listen to Monday's podcast,
00:05:38.600 you should listen to Monday's podcast because we did a deep dive on the Trump administration,
00:05:43.960 rightly cutting off $400 million of grants to Columbia University.
00:05:47.780 Columbia was probably the single worst actor in all of these universities in terms of tolerating
00:05:53.280 and celebrating these anti-Israel, anti-Jewish protests.
00:05:58.160 But not only that, arresting a pro-Hamas protester.
00:06:02.600 And let me be clear.
00:06:04.800 This is the first of many.
00:06:06.680 I believe we will see many more of the pro-Hamas protesters arrested and deported.
00:06:13.080 And what I've said from the beginning, if you are threatening other students, if you are attacking America,
00:06:18.920 if you are embracing terrorists, and you're a foreign student, you should be expelled, and you should be deported.
00:06:26.740 And what happened, Mahmoud Khalil, who is from Syria, he came to the United States, my understanding is in 2022,
00:06:36.560 he came to be a student at Columbia.
00:06:38.400 He married a woman from the United States.
00:06:42.900 He got a green card.
00:06:44.840 So 2022 is three years ago.
00:06:46.720 It's not very long.
00:06:47.360 He got a green card very quickly.
00:06:48.920 And in his time in America, he came into America, and he organized anti-America, anti-Israel, anti-Semitic, pro-Hamas protests.
00:06:56.880 Now, it's interesting.
00:06:58.880 There have been a number of people online, a number of leftists, who are saying,
00:07:01.720 well, this is free speech.
00:07:02.600 This is allowed.
00:07:03.640 Let me be clear.
00:07:04.440 Here, under U.S. law, American citizens are protected by the First Amendment.
00:07:10.000 Foreigners are not.
00:07:11.460 A visa to come to this country as a student, that is a permissive decision, and you do not
00:07:17.700 have a right, if you are a guest to this country, to actively undermine America.
00:07:22.600 Let me be clear to anyone.
00:07:24.040 If you hate America, if you want to undermine America, do not come to this country.
00:07:28.780 And the Trump administration rightly arrested and plans to deport Mahmoud Khalil for organizing
00:07:37.840 anti-Israel, anti-America, pro-Hamas protests.
00:07:41.280 And what's stunning, Ben, what do you think the reaction of the Democrats is to this?
00:07:45.440 They stand with Khalil.
00:07:48.000 They stand with the anti-Israel, pro-Hamas protesters.
00:07:51.560 So if you want to know where you stand, if you stand with Israel, if you stand with American
00:07:57.840 Jews, if you stand with freedom, if you stand with the right to be free from oppression and
00:08:03.900 violence, that ain't the Democrats.
00:08:06.000 They stand with those engaged violence.
00:08:09.040 Yeah, it really is shocking when you hear it described the way that you just described
00:08:13.140 it, that they're saying, no, no, no, this is our guy.
00:08:15.740 This is our hero.
00:08:16.740 This is who we want to advocate for.
00:08:19.820 And we're going to do this and stand with this individual.
00:08:23.860 I look at it as I'm like, OK, what's the play here?
00:08:26.480 Is this to raise money?
00:08:27.980 It's who they are.
00:08:28.500 Is this it's just so you think at the core, this is truly who they are.
00:08:33.640 The Democrats are captive to their pro-Hamas space.
00:08:38.020 So 14 House Democrats wrote a letter and I quote from the letter, quote, we're horrified
00:08:44.960 by the recent illegal abduction and now indefinite detention of Mahmoud Khalil, a U.S. permanent
00:08:52.900 resident by the Department of Homeland Security DHS agents.
00:08:56.780 And we unequivocally demand his immediate release from DHS custody.
00:09:01.340 That's what 14 House Democrats wrote.
00:09:04.200 And here's what they continue.
00:09:05.280 They said, quote, Khalil has not been charged or convicted of any crime.
00:09:08.700 As the Trump administration proudly admits, he was targeted solely for his activism and
00:09:13.620 organizing as a student leader and negotiator for the Gaza Solidarity Encampment on Columbia
00:09:19.220 University campus, protesting the Israeli government's brutal assault on the Palestinian people in
00:09:25.300 Gaza and his university's complicity in the suppression.
00:09:29.740 And among the co-signers include Rashiba Tlaib, Ilhan Omar, Dele Ramirez and Nidia Velasquez.
00:09:36.140 So these are left wing Democrats, and they're saying when we see anti-Israel pro-Hamas protesters,
00:09:44.040 we side with the pro-Hamas protesters.
00:09:46.900 We cannot stand Israel.
00:09:49.020 We oppose Israel.
00:09:50.220 And we're horrified that the Trump administration is on the other side.
00:09:54.940 I am celebrating that the Trump administration is on the other side.
00:09:59.000 Let's also play for everybody.
00:10:01.220 It was a very interesting moment at the White House, the White House press briefing.
00:10:05.200 With the White House press secretary, she doubled down on this to make it clear exactly what
00:10:10.580 you were saying about this administration.
00:10:12.520 Take a listen.
00:10:13.240 Well, in fact, Secretary Rubio reserves the right to revoke the visa of Mahmoud Khalil.
00:10:20.760 And I'm glad you brought this up.
00:10:22.200 Under the Immigration and Nationality Act, the secretary of state has the right to revoke a
00:10:28.320 green card or a visa for individuals who serve or are adversarial to the foreign policy and
00:10:34.360 national security interests of the United States of America.
00:10:37.500 And Mahmoud Khalil was an individual who was given the privilege of coming to this country
00:10:42.820 to study at one of our nation's finest universities and colleges.
00:10:47.280 And he took advantage of that opportunity, of that privilege, by siding with terrorists,
00:10:53.320 Hamas terrorists who have killed innocent men, women, and children.
00:10:56.600 This is an individual who organized group protests that not only disrupted college campus classes
00:11:03.900 and harassed Jewish American students and made them feel unsafe on their own college campus,
00:11:09.480 but also distributed pro-Hamas propaganda, flyers with the logo of Hamas.
00:11:15.240 That is what the behavior and activity that this individual engaged in.
00:11:19.920 And I have those flyers on my desk.
00:11:21.820 They were provided to me by the Department of Homeland Security.
00:11:24.400 I thought about bringing them into this briefing room to share with all of you,
00:11:27.260 but I didn't think it was worth the dignity of this room to bring that pro-Hamas propaganda.
00:11:32.580 But that's what this individual distributed on the campus of Columbia University.
00:11:36.220 And this administration is not going to tolerate individuals having the privilege of studying
00:11:41.100 in our country and then siding with pro-terrorist organizations that have killed Americans.
00:11:47.140 We have a zero-tolerance policy for siding with terrorists, period.
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00:13:57.120 All right, Senator, I love the part that Caroline Levitt talked about there about the actual flyers that were put out.
00:14:03.960 And she's like, I have them in my office.
00:14:06.080 So let me say, my response to what Caroline Levitt said is, amen, amen, amen, hallelujah.
00:14:13.400 Look, there is a clarity to this.
00:14:16.780 Yesterday, the Senate Judiciary Democrats, so Dick Durbin and all the Democrats on the Judiciary Committee,
00:14:23.280 they tweeted out a three-word tweet.
00:14:28.200 The three words are free, Mahmoud, Khalil.
00:14:33.980 And then they have a picture of Mahmoud standing in front of some black iron gate.
00:14:39.000 Now, let me just ask you, who do you side with?
00:14:42.540 If you side with radical pro-Hamas protesters, you should be a Democrat.
00:14:49.420 Look, they are the party of Hamas.
00:14:51.880 They are the party of the radicals.
00:14:53.520 If you actually side with Israel, if you side with Jewish students, if you side with America,
00:14:58.440 if you don't like Hamas terrorists that want to kill us,
00:15:02.400 well, it is amazing the divide we have.
00:15:05.880 And this is a simple, clear divide.
00:15:07.600 And I'm grateful for Caroline Levitt for making clear.
00:15:11.960 Listen, a U.S. citizen, so it's interesting, I've tweeted about this quite a lot today.
00:15:16.920 And there are some lefties who say, free speech, free speech.
00:15:20.780 You're right.
00:15:21.920 An American citizen has a right to say horrible, noxious statements under free speech.
00:15:27.760 And I will defend your right.
00:15:29.000 If you want to defend Nazis, I'll defend your right to do that.
00:15:31.760 If you want to defend Klansmen, I'll defend your right to do that.
00:15:33.840 Now, to be clear, I'll say you're an ignorant, bigoted racist for doing that.
00:15:39.260 But you have a right to say that.
00:15:41.040 But you know what?
00:15:41.940 If you're not an American citizen, if you have a student visa or a green card,
00:15:46.740 you are here on a permissive standard.
00:15:49.720 We don't have to allow you to stay.
00:15:52.040 And it says volumes that the Democrats say,
00:15:57.060 we would rather stand with Hamas than stand with Israel or, frankly, stand with America.
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00:16:33.840 I want to move to this other story.
00:16:37.440 And the headline is one that is not a joke.
00:16:40.640 It is real.
00:16:42.780 Doge has now said that they have uncovered $312 million, Senator, in loans that were given to children
00:16:53.080 during the COVID pandemic.
00:16:57.340 Yes, to children, like 9-year-olds, 11-year-olds.
00:17:00.900 There was $312 million that was approved and given to children.
00:17:06.180 Well, you said this is not a joke.
00:17:08.040 And sadly, I wish it was.
00:17:09.900 Here's what Fox News has reported.
00:17:11.720 Quote,
00:17:11.980 Doge said it identified the Small Business Association administration, I assume, granted nearly 5,600 loans for $312 million to borrowers who only listed owner was 11 years old or younger at the time of the loan.
00:17:33.060 The loans were issued in 2020 and 2021, and it is unclear what they were used for.
00:17:40.600 Quote,
00:17:40.840 Doge and the SBA government are working together to solve this problem this week.
00:17:57.440 While making the announcement, Doge shared a post on X from Tuesday where it also revealed that in 2020 and 2021, the SBA issued 3,095 loans for $333 million to borrowers over 115 years old.
00:18:19.840 The borrowers were still marked as alive in the Social Security database.
00:18:25.700 In one case, a 157-year-old individual received $36,000 in loans, the agency said.
00:18:35.740 Look, this is, I feel very confident that nobody is 157 years old.
00:18:42.740 And if they are and they're getting $36,000, that is fraud.
00:18:48.200 It's fraud.
00:18:49.080 And we all know this.
00:18:50.560 And look, this goes back to what President Trump said and has addressed to Congress on Tuesday.
00:18:55.240 When he talked about, he said there was millions of people aged over 100 that were listed on Social Security databases, with one being as old as 360 years of age.
00:19:05.140 And I go back to Trump's quote there.
00:19:07.220 I know some people who are rather elderly are not quite that elderly.
00:19:08.760 I want to know, is that guy the vampire Lestat, is he like literally an ageless vampire who like flies with the bats?
00:19:19.720 Yeah, right.
00:19:20.220 Exactly.
00:19:20.640 And this goes back to Elon Musk and a job that he's doing that I got to say, rarely in my life I thought there's a job that only one guy could do well.
00:19:29.680 It seems to be Doge and Elon Musk.
00:19:31.920 Because finding this type of waste, fraud, and abuse is exactly what Donald Trump promised, and they're paying off on it.
00:19:39.160 But every American that pays taxes should be enraged by the fact that we're giving this much money to people that are children or this much money to someone that's as old as 360 years of age.
00:19:53.060 To be clear, if you're giving millions of dollars to a five-year-old, you're not.
00:19:59.220 That is an adult engaged in theft.
00:20:02.340 If you're giving millions of dollars to someone who's 150 years old, you're not.
00:20:07.760 That is an adult engaged in theft.
00:20:10.100 What this report indicates is that the Biden administration didn't give a damn about whether the money was actually going to real people who had real needs, who were engaged in the purposes for which Congress appropriated the money.
00:20:24.380 Instead, they were just shoveling money out the door, and tragically, the fraud was rampant.
00:20:31.100 In many instances, the fraud was going to radical left-wing Democrat groups because the Biden administration believed in paying off their buddies.
00:20:40.280 In other cases, they're just lazy.
00:20:41.840 They don't care.
00:20:42.480 When a six-year-old puts in an application for government money, the answer should be no because you're six, and you ought to be playing with blocks in kindergarten and not trying to get millions of dollars from the government.
00:20:54.680 But if you're a corrupt Democrat, you give the millions of dollars and let the parents use it for the political purposes they want.
00:21:01.900 Yeah, no doubt about it.
00:21:03.720 And finally, let's deal with a really fun story, and it deals with an app.
00:21:08.620 It is – I call it the Reverse Uno card.
00:21:11.520 You remember that app that allowed for countless people to come into this country and just walk in knowing they were here illegally, and it was an app that was exploited by the Biden-Harris administration?
00:21:22.700 Well, we've got a Reverse Uno card now, Senator, because we've got a new app, and it does actually the exact opposite of that, which is you can hurry up and self-deport yourself.
00:21:33.520 Well, it's beautiful.
00:21:34.660 So the Biden administration launched an app called the CBP1 app.
00:21:39.040 And here's what Bill Lugin, who is the best reporter on immigration for Fox News, here's what he reported.
00:21:45.800 Quote,
00:21:46.040 Scoop, the Trump admin has repurposed the controversial Biden-era CBP1 cell phone app into a self-deportation app called CBP Home that launches today.
00:22:00.820 DHS tells me any migrants who had prior CBP1 app will have it auto-update to this new app, and DHS can use data from prior CBP1 registrations to track migrants for removal.
00:22:18.380 The new app allows illegal aliens and migrants in the U.S. to register with CBP to self-deport.
00:22:26.720 They fill out biographical information, including their countries of citizenship, which country they plan to return to, their alien registration numbers, contact information, and it allows them to upload photos of themselves to confirm their identity.
00:22:41.880 All of it, then, is submitted to CBP as they leave the country.
00:22:47.920 You may ask yourself, why would an illegal alien want to self-deport?
00:22:52.960 In a statement to Fox News, DHS Secretary Kristi Noem answered the question.
00:22:57.840 The CBP Home app gives aliens the option to leave now and self-deport so they may still have the opportunity to return legally in the future and live the American dream.
00:23:12.860 If they don't, we will find them, we will deport them, and they will never return, Noem said.
00:23:19.800 The Biden administration exploited the CBP One app to allow more than 1 million aliens to enter the United States.
00:23:27.600 With the launching of CBP Home app, we are restoring integrity to our immigration system.
00:23:33.840 This may be one of the simplest yet biggest turn of events for a win on law and order at our southern border dealing with the issue of illegal immigration.
00:23:43.620 I just got to say, well done to the Trump administration on this one, and they keep paying off on their promises to the American people.
00:23:51.080 So, Ben, I got to say, I don't know if this is going to work or not, but I got to say, if you're an illegal immigrant, you came to this country, you went to a human trafficker, you were coming from, say, Central America, came up through Mexico, and the Biden administration said, hey, we've got an app.
00:24:07.700 Fill out your information.
00:24:08.920 You can come here and we'll let you in.
00:24:11.040 And you filled it out.
00:24:11.840 You came to America.
00:24:13.160 And suddenly over your cell phone, you get, oh, crap.
00:24:16.420 Wait, they want me to go home?
00:24:18.320 And if I don't go home, they're going to find me.
00:24:20.460 They're going to arrest me.
00:24:21.260 They're going to send me home.
00:24:22.420 And the consequences are I can never come back.
00:24:26.020 I don't know how many people are going to respond to this, but I think this is fabulous.
00:24:30.140 Listen, my view on immigration is simple.
00:24:32.920 I've summed up my immigration view in four words many times.
00:24:36.840 Legal, good, illegal, bad.
00:24:39.260 For the people who are here illegally, the Trump administration is leaning in, saying we're going to secure the border.
00:24:46.420 We're going to remove you.
00:24:47.680 And by the way, going back to our first story, if you were a pro-Hamas, radical, anti-Semite protester, and you're not a U.S. citizen, bye-bye.
00:25:00.060 You're going to be deported.
00:25:01.280 You're going to be expelled.
00:25:02.180 You're going to be thrown out of this country.
00:25:04.240 That is a view that makes an enormous amount of sense to me.
00:25:07.540 And we will see, and by the way, if we get the data on how many people have used this app, we'll report on this data on this podcast.
00:25:18.020 But the simple act of saying, all right, the prior administration opened up our borders and let you in.
00:25:25.940 We're now enforcing them.
00:25:27.660 I say bravo, bravo, bravo.
00:25:30.400 Yeah, no doubt about it.
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00:25:53.280 So, Ben, should I share it on Twitter?
00:25:55.300 Should I share it on Instagram?
00:25:56.380 You should.
00:25:57.160 You should share it everywhere.
00:25:58.500 Should I share it on TikTok, even if the Chinese communists don't like it?
00:26:02.920 You know what?
00:26:03.500 The Chinese communists probably need to listen to this show and learn something.
00:26:06.820 So, yes, share it on any damn app you can.
00:26:09.340 There you go.
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