Verdict with Ted Cruz - September 04, 2025


DeSantis & Surgeon General Announce End to School Vaccine Requirements


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Florida is getting rid of all vaccine mandates, including those for public school children. Why are so many doctors and the media so angry about this? Ben and I explain why they are so upset and why the left is losing their mind.

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00:00:05.780 Yeah, I do.
00:00:06.620 I think the Republicans will vote for an extension.
00:00:09.100 We won't have any Democrat votes.
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00:00:21.060 And we wouldn't get one vote for the Democrats because they've lost their mind.
00:00:24.720 You're listening to the 47 Morning Update with Ben Ferguson.
00:00:28.300 Good Thursday morning.
00:00:29.280 Nice to have you with us on the 47 Morning Update.
00:00:31.780 And we've got one very big and important story for you.
00:00:34.580 It deals with vaccines and parental rights being restored in Florida.
00:00:40.560 The left and the media losing their minds, including many doctors who are furious
00:00:45.160 that the state there is getting rid of vaccine mandates, including for your kids to go to school.
00:00:51.120 So why are they so angry?
00:00:52.980 We'll explain it.
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00:03:00.760 It's the 47 Morning Update, and it starts right now.
00:03:04.380 Story number one.
00:03:05.620 Cause and effect is something that happens all the time.
00:03:09.320 Well, there was a major cause and effect when it came to COVID-19 and the lies that were told to the American people about that vaccine.
00:03:18.500 And so many of the regulations and rules that put us in a lockdown for far too long.
00:03:24.960 What happened?
00:03:26.300 There's a lot of people now asking more questions than ever about the CDC and not trusting the CDC, not trusting them on vaccines.
00:03:34.660 It also brought up an even bigger point.
00:03:37.360 Should the government be able to mandate what vaccines you have to have for your kids?
00:03:43.300 Well, Florida, they said they believe that parents should have the rights over their children, not the federal government when it comes to vaccines.
00:03:52.860 Let me be clear about what happened in Florida.
00:03:55.360 It is not in Florida, and this is very important, a ban on vaccines.
00:04:01.500 What Florida has now done is said parents could decide, not the government.
00:04:06.240 And that brings us to the big headline.
00:04:09.120 Liberals are losing their minds because they want the government to be able to dictate to you what you have to do for your children.
00:04:16.340 Florida, now we know, plans to eliminate all vaccine mandates, including those required for children attending public schools.
00:04:28.240 The announcement came from the Surgeon General of Florida and was made during a press conference alongside Governor Ron DeSantis.
00:04:36.640 Now, the Surgeon General described the mandates as oppressive and even likened them to slavery and framed the repeal as a matter of parental choice.
00:04:45.000 Bodily, bodily autonomy and medical freedom.
00:04:49.080 Florida, by the way, would become the first U.S. state to withdraw mandatory vaccination requirements entirely, marking a significant shift from decades of public health policy.
00:05:01.440 Now, while the Department of Health can rescind mandates, it issued administratively any vaccine requirements established by law, such as those for polio, measles and mumps, you know, and tetanus, for example.
00:05:15.000 Will require legislative action to, quote unquote, repeal.
00:05:19.520 Well, the liberals, their minds exploded over this, as well as many in the medical field.
00:05:25.860 The American Medical Association say that the repeal would, quote, undermine decades of public health progress and dramatically increase the risk of serious illness.
00:05:36.040 Well, guess what?
00:05:37.320 If you guys at the CDC and in the medical community wouldn't have lied about the COVID vaccine and its effectiveness or the spread or masking or staying six feet apart or shutting down the schools or any of the issues you lied to us about with COVID, then we might actually believe you on issues moving forward.
00:05:56.460 But the reality is, Americans don't.
00:05:59.820 Infectious disease leaders also came out warning of likely outbreaks of preventable diseases like measles and polio, especially in schools and vulnerable populations.
00:06:10.640 Florida Democrats echoed these concerns with Senator Jones calling it a, quote, grave public health risk.
00:06:18.020 Another state senator emphasized disease like polio could return, and that would be horrific for Florida.
00:06:24.560 Now, I went on CNN Newsnight with Abby Phillips.
00:06:28.520 It was the lead story.
00:06:30.360 And I want you to hear how the media is now attacking Donald Trump for this, saying that he's going to have kids die because of a policy that's been enacted in Florida.
00:06:42.180 Yes, they want to fear monger you and control you yet again.
00:06:45.980 Listen carefully.
00:06:47.500 Joining the conversation for this one is Dr. Chris Purnell.
00:06:50.460 She's the director of the NAACP Center for Health Equity and Public Health and Preventative Medicine Physician.
00:06:57.660 And, Dr. Purnell, you know this well.
00:07:00.000 In 2020, we had 13 cases of measles.
00:07:03.520 2025, 1,400.
00:07:06.400 A huge increase in whooping cough.
00:07:08.900 Whooping cough in this country.
00:07:10.820 And at the same time, the rates of vaccine exemptions have gone up by about a point since 2019.
00:07:18.060 None of this is by accident.
00:07:20.280 None of this is by osmosis.
00:07:22.120 And now, this in Florida.
00:07:24.520 Reckless.
00:07:25.280 If I could sum it up in one word.
00:07:27.340 Let's just go to some facts.
00:07:28.900 And I have them here to keep myself honest.
00:07:31.740 Since the last 30 years, we've saved over 150 million lives because of vaccines globally.
00:07:38.940 If we begin to think about, in the United States, we've saved over 1.1 million children due to vaccination since 1994.
00:07:49.740 We've prevented 508 million illnesses and 32 million hospitalizations.
00:07:56.920 That's not anything to wink at.
00:07:59.060 That's hardcore data.
00:07:59.940 But what's happening in the United States is as if we are a runaway train.
00:08:06.600 In public health, we talk about the cliff of good health.
00:08:09.740 And we have fallen completely off of the cliff.
00:08:12.520 That's kind of what it feels like in a way, Ben.
00:08:15.940 That everybody sitting at this table, all the folks in Florida, all of these people who are vaccine skeptics now have benefited from vaccines.
00:08:24.940 Allowing them to live their lives without polio, without measles.
00:08:29.500 And now, all of a sudden, they want to pull the rug out from underneath children.
00:08:34.060 I'm surprised by it.
00:08:35.200 I mean, you have kids.
00:08:36.300 A lot of us do at this table.
00:08:38.440 If you lived in Florida, what would you be thinking?
00:08:41.120 I think two things.
00:08:41.480 One, they're not outlawed.
00:08:43.020 That's good.
00:08:43.660 The parents are going to decide.
00:08:44.680 Two, there's a cause and effect.
00:08:46.300 And the CDC lied to us about COVID.
00:08:48.600 And they lied a lot.
00:08:49.580 They lied about masks in school.
00:08:51.360 They lied about distancing.
00:08:52.860 They lied about the efficiency or the effectiveness of the COVID-19 vaccine.
00:08:57.960 Not true.
00:08:58.580 It is true.
00:08:59.460 They said that distancing.
00:09:00.920 Hold on, wait, wait, wait.
00:09:01.600 Did they not lie about the effectiveness of a mask when internal documents said that the masks did not work in the schools?
00:09:09.580 If we're looking at high-quality masks, if we're looking at high-quality masks, right?
00:09:14.720 So P95 masks, those masks actually prevent infections.
00:09:19.880 Because, look, this is the way science works.
00:09:21.480 Science works that as you get data, the type of communication that you gave...
00:09:26.080 Hold on, this is my American...
00:09:28.080 This is what I'm doing right now.
00:09:29.600 You can't say the CDC lied.
00:09:30.620 I actually think it's important.
00:09:31.840 It's very important.
00:09:32.700 If you're saying things that are not accurate, I do think it's fair for her to counter that.
00:09:38.420 The CDC said that masking was effective and worked when they knew internal documents said...
00:09:42.580 It does work.
00:09:43.480 ...and the emails came out that it didn't work.
00:09:44.720 Okay, well, what she does. 0.98
00:09:46.020 Six-foot distancing.
00:09:46.860 Hold on a second.
00:09:47.540 The CDC say that six-foot worked and it didn't.
00:09:50.780 First of all...
00:09:51.780 They said it was going to stop the spread in two weeks.
00:09:54.280 Are you going to have a conversation or are you just going to keep talking?
00:09:58.440 Look, hold on, okay?
00:10:00.840 First of all, what she is disputing is your language around this, which is that they lied.
00:10:06.320 Yes, exactly.
00:10:07.540 Which she's saying, and I think she's right about this, is not true.
00:10:10.540 There are certain types of masks that work better than others.
00:10:14.880 A, and B, the whole point of science...
00:10:18.200 I mean, and this is...
00:10:18.900 This is why Florida did this, and this is what you guys don't understand.
00:10:21.600 Hold on.
00:10:22.060 There's a cause and effect.
00:10:23.420 The American people don't trust the CDC.
00:10:25.040 Hold on a second.
00:10:25.580 That's why Florida did it. 1.00
00:10:26.280 For the reasons I said.
00:10:27.360 You may not like that.
00:10:28.120 You may not like the American people who need that. 0.99
00:10:29.960 Americans don't trust the CDC because people like RFK Jr. and others...
00:10:34.420 That's why RFK Jr. got the job he's got now, because so many people didn't trust the CDC.
00:10:38.640 Hold on a second.
00:10:39.700 Okay, Ben, just give me one second, okay?
00:10:41.340 This Florida Surgeon General has been railing against vaccines for a while, but he's also
00:10:47.080 responsible for a lot of misinformation.
00:10:50.040 He's altered key findings in a COVID-19 vaccine safety study.
00:10:54.800 Malpractice.
00:10:55.280 He pushed things like cures like ivermectin and others for COVID.
00:11:01.060 Wait, hold on.
00:11:01.280 Did ivermectin not work?
00:11:03.020 No.
00:11:03.180 Did you have data that shows that it did work?
00:11:05.060 No.
00:11:05.640 He is pushing all of those other data that it does not work effectively.
00:11:09.820 Okay.
00:11:10.240 Ben, are you really going to argue with the doctor?
00:11:12.180 Thank you.
00:11:12.460 I'm not that.
00:11:13.260 With a doctor who is helping to save lives in the same thing that...
00:11:15.820 When we all listen to doctors during COVID, you guys screwed us and we failed miserably.
00:11:21.040 You lied about a vaccine.
00:11:21.800 Let me move on.
00:11:22.440 Because why?
00:11:24.160 Isn't it amazing how they're so angry that you have parents that are going to have the
00:11:29.620 right to make a decision for their children?
00:11:32.080 What is best for them?
00:11:33.560 They cannot stand that the government can't dictate to the people, at least in Florida,
00:11:40.200 on the issue of vaccines.
00:11:42.320 They cannot stand to admit that the reason why this happened, the reason why RFK Jr.
00:11:48.320 is in the government, is because the cause and effect of the CDC lying pathologically to
00:11:53.860 the American people every step of the way on the issue of COVID-19 and the effectiveness
00:11:59.140 of vaccines and masking and all the other things that I just mentioned.
00:12:02.580 And they're mad that this is happening in Florida.
00:12:07.060 Now, look, I think the people in Florida should be trusted.
00:12:10.360 I think the people in Florida should have the right to do what's best for their children.
00:12:14.340 And if the doctors are angry that they say the science is overwhelming, that these vaccine
00:12:21.060 mandates should be a thing, well, then they should actually talk to their patients about
00:12:27.060 it with compassion and understanding and say the arrogance that you just heard right there
00:12:32.460 from that doctor, condescending and frustrated of anybody that would ever question her as a
00:12:38.780 quote, doctor, you heard it, and it's amazing that we're still even having the conversation
00:12:43.900 after what we witnessed during COVID.
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