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Verdict with Ted Cruz
- June 07, 2023
Did Biden Lie to America Over Nord Stream Pipeline plus FBI Dir. to be Held in Contempt of Congress & SPLC targets Moms
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Welcome. It is Verdict with Senator Ted Cruz, Ben Ferguson with you.
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We've got a lot to unpack on the show that includes who was lying to us,
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Russia or the President of the United States of America on the Nord Stream pipeline
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and who blew it up.
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Also, the FBI Director Wray could be held in contempt of Congress.
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What does that mean?
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And the Southern Poverty Law Center coming after good conservative Christian Americans yet again.
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Senator, let's first start with the shocking news on the Nord Stream pipeline.
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This seems to be a major change in the White House's position.
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Despite, we now know, they were briefed back in June of 2022
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that apparently, and this is coming from the CIA,
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that Ukraine was planning and even practicing to blow up the Nord Stream pipeline.
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Biden, if you fast forward from June to September of 2022,
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he came out and said this after that pipeline was exploded.
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Quote, let me say this.
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It was a deliberate act of sabotage,
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and now the Russians are pumping out disinformation and lies.
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The President went on to say,
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we'll work with our allies to get to the bottom of exactly what happened,
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precisely what happened.
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At my direction, I've already begun to help our allies enhance the protection
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of this critical infrastructure.
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And then, Senator, he said this.
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Quote,
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And at the appropriate moment when things calm down,
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we're going to send the divers down to find out exactly what happened.
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We don't know what yet.
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We don't know exactly, but just don't listen to what Putin's saying
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because he's saying we know it's not true.
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Now, I think he was trying to say because what he was saying we know is not true.
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Senator, you hear this now,
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and if you look at the headline coming from the liberal Washington Post,
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Biden blamed Russia for the Nord Stream pipeline attack
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despite the CIA being briefed earlier on a Ukrainian plot
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to do exactly that, blow it up.
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Your reaction?
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Well, today's story in the Washington Post is a big deal.
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And let's step back for a minute.
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On this podcast, we've walked through at great length
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what caused the war in Ukraine.
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There are many things that are frustrating about this war,
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but the most fundamental is that it was utterly preventable.
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This war did not have to happen,
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and it was caused by Biden's weakness
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and his complete capitulation to Russia.
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And to retread a little bit,
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but this is important to understand why this story in the Post is significant.
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Putin has long wanted to invade Ukraine.
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He wants to reassemble the old Soviet Union.
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He longs for the days of what he perceives as Soviet greatness.
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If you're going to reassemble the old Soviet Union, Ukraine is the most important piece of it.
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And Putin previously invaded Ukraine.
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In 2014, he invaded Ukraine, invaded Crimea, which is the southern portion of Ukraine.
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But he stopped because Russia's primary source of revenue is selling oil and natural gas,
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and the natural gas pipelines run right through the middle of Ukraine.
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And if he invaded the whole country, he risked damaging or destroying those pipelines.
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So the next year, in 2015, he launched the Nord Stream 2 pipeline.
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Nord Stream 2 is an undersea pipeline underneath the Baltic Sea
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that runs directly from Russia to Germany.
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The entire purpose of it was to circumvent Ukraine
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so that when the pipeline became complete and active,
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Russia could invade Ukraine and not worry about the pipelines
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because it could get its natural gas to market.
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As you know, in 2019, I authored sanctions legislation that shut the Nord Stream 2 pipeline down.
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Putin halted construction of the pipeline literally the day
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Donald Trump signed my sanctions legislation into law.
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For over a year, from December 2019 to January of 2021,
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the pipeline was dead and dormant and nothing happened
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because the sanctions legislation that I authored and Trump signed had stopped it.
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Joe Biden became president on January 20th, 2021.
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Four days later, January 24th, Putin resumed deep-sea construction of Nord Stream 2
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because Biden had foreshadowed incredible weakness that he was going to give into Russia.
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That foreshadowing proved accurate.
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Several months later, Biden formally waived sanctions on Nord Stream 2,
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gave Putin a multi-billion-dollar gift.
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Fast forward to January of 2022, I force a vote on the Senate floor to reimpose sanctions
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on Nord Stream 2.
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Every Democrat had voted with me twice to impose those sanctions.
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On the day of the vote, Biden, for the first time in his presidency, came to Capitol Hill
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and personally lobbied Democrat senators to vote against my sanctions legislation,
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to vote in favor of Russia, in favor of Putin, and 44 Democrats flipped their votes.
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They'd voted with me twice, but at Biden's behest, they put partisan politics
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above U.S. national security, above standing with our allies.
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Now, when that vote was pending, President Zelensky of Ukraine publicly begged the Senate,
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pass Cruz's sanctions legislation.
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It's the only way to stop Russia from invading Ukraine.
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The government of Poland put out a formal statement, said,
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pass Cruz's sanctions legislation.
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Without it, Russia will invade Ukraine.
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The Democrats flipped.
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The legislation failed.
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And just a few weeks later, Russia invaded Ukraine.
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Fast forward.
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We've now had the biggest land war in Europe since World War II, waging for over a year.
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Biden was so weak to Russia, he capitulated to Russia.
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He allowed Putin to complete Nord Stream 2.
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And the result was exactly what Zelensky predicted, exactly what Poland predicted,
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exactly what I predicted on the Senate floor.
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Russia invaded Ukraine.
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Now, several months ago, as we know,
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the Nord Stream 2 pipeline was blown up.
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That was a big deal.
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This was a pipeline Biden had allowed Putin to complete.
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And when it exploded with undersea munitions,
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the Biden White House had a spin and their foreign policy talkers had a spin.
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They said, Russia blew it up.
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Now, I got to admit, Ben,
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I always found that a weird talking point.
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Sure.
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Look, Putin's number one priority was to build the damn pipeline
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in order to enable him to invade Ukraine.
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Why would Putin blow up his own pipeline,
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which is what gave him the ability to engage in the war
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to reestablish and recreate the Soviet Union?
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I always found that crap.
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So, the alternative hypothesis was that the United States blew it up.
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Seymour Hersh, who is a journalist who has done some good work,
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but he engages in a lot of fantastical work
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that has very questionable moorings to reality.
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He wrote a long article arguing the United States blew it up.
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I have to admit, I read Hersh's article,
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and I was pretty skeptical of it.
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And I was skeptical of it mostly because the Biden administration
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lacks the spinal fortitude to do it.
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It may well be in the United States' interest to blow the damn thing up,
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but I didn't believe Joe Biden had the guts to give that order.
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So, the Biden administration was saying Russia did it.
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That always struck me as baloney.
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Other people were saying maybe the United States did it.
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That actually struck me as baloney as well.
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I just don't believe Biden would be willing to do that.
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My view from the day it happened is I said,
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look, who benefits from this?
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This is always a good analysis on foreign policy to ask who benefits.
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The obvious player that benefits is Ukraine.
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And so, my view on the day this happened is
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the obvious player to have done this is Ukraine,
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if, if, if, and this is a big if,
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if they have the technological capability to do it.
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And what I didn't know, and I don't know today,
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is whether Ukraine had the ability to go nearly 300 feet underwater
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and blow up that pipeline.
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If they did,
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it's a no-brainer that blowing up Nord Stream 2 benefits Ukraine
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and hurts Russia.
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This story in the Washington Post yesterday asserts that the CIA,
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the Biden CIA had credible intelligence,
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that Ukraine blew up the pipeline.
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I don't know if that's true.
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And I'm going to readily say I've had lots and lots of classified briefings
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on lots and lots of topics.
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I have had zero classified briefings with information on this question.
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So, I don't have any specialized information on who blew it up,
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whether it was Russia, whether it was Ukraine,
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whether it was the United States, or whether it was someone else.
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I don't know.
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But I've read this Washington Post article,
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and I know the incentives and who benefits.
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And it strikes me as utterly plausible that Ukraine did this with the caveat
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that I don't know if they had the technological sophistication to do it.
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But if they did it, if they did have that capability,
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I absolutely believe Ukraine would do it and would benefit from doing it.
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And if that is true,
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it means Joe Biden and the Biden White House lied to America over and over again
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from the moment this happened.
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Yeah, I want to ask you about the lies,
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because the article, and this is the Washington Post,
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that's implying that basically the President of the United States of America
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willfully lied to the American people,
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Senator, you look at the Washington Post and what they reported.
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They said, based on Pentagon documents, allegedly leaked onto Discord,
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a European nation briefed the Biden administration that the Ukrainian military
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had planned a covert attack on the undersea network using a small team of divers
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who reported directly to the commander-in-chief of the Ukrainian Armed Forces.
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Yet the president, knowing this, being briefed on this, told the American people,
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Russia did this, he blamed Russia for this, and you talked about the lie here.
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Why would he lie to us?
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And why would he mislead the American people this way,
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while also at the same time sending countless American tax dollars to Ukraine?
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Well, listen, let me be clear.
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I don't know for a fact that Biden was lying.
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What I do know is their story never made sense.
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Why would Putin blow up the pipeline that was integral to the Russian economies
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being able to sell natural gas to Europe?
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Why would Putin blow up the pipeline that enabled the invasion of Ukraine?
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Why would Putin blow up the pipeline that Joe Biden had wrapped in gift wrap
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and given him as a giant multi-billion dollar present?
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And that capitulation is what caused the invasion of Ukraine.
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It never made sense to me.
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So, you know, I guess you could have some sort of sophisticated psyops
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that he blows it and blows it up and maybe he figures it
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weakens Europe's commitment to Ukraine.
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I just, that seems so attenuated to me.
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It sounds like baloney.
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The Post also said that this was, they had a lot of details about the plan,
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which had not been previously reported until now.
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They were apparently collected by a European intelligence service.
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They were shared with the CIA in June of 2022.
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And they provided some of the most specific evidence to date,
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linking the government of Ukraine to the eventual attack in the Baltic Sea.
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Now, if that's true, Senator, and is there new questions that must be asked
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about American aid going to Ukraine, or does that really have no bearing on that,
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even if, in fact, they may have done this?
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Look, I don't think it has bearing at all.
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And, in fact, if Ukraine blew up the pipeline, I say good on Ukraine.
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It's unquestionably in their national security interest it was the right thing to do.
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To be honest, if Donald Trump were still president,
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I think he may well have blown up the pipeline.
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But I don't think the pipeline would have been built,
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so I don't think he would have had to blow it up.
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And I don't think there would have been a war on Ukraine.
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Why?
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Because, look, rewind to 2017-2018.
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2017-2018, everyone in Washington said,
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we can't stop this pipeline.
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We're hopeless.
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There's nothing we can do.
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When I wrote the legislation, it was targeted sanctions legislation.
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There was a specific company, the All Seas Company,
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that was building the pipeline.
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And I wrote the legislation that would bankrupt the company
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if it continued building the pipeline even for a minute.
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Now, amazingly enough, we passed this legislation December of 2019.
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If you remember what else was happening in December of 2019,
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the House of Representatives under Nancy Pelosi
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was impeaching Donald Trump.
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And not just impeaching Donald Trump,
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impeaching him for conduct concerning Ukraine.
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So I'm trying to pass legislation that is integral to Ukraine
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in the middle of the House impeaching Trump
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for Ukraine.
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And I need bipartisan support.
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To get this passed,
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I had to get support from the chairman and ranking member,
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so from the Democrat and Republican,
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in the Senate Armed Services Committee,
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in the Senate Foreign Relations Committee,
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in the Senate Banking Committee,
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and from Chuck Schumer and Mitch McConnell.
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That's eight players in the Senate.
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And I had to get support from the same eight players in the House
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in the middle of this political bloodbath
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over the first Trump impeachment on Ukraine.
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And so, in hindsight,
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it remains a friggin' miracle we got it done.
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To be honest, part of the way I got it done
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is I didn't mention the word Ukraine at all.
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I'm like, Ukraine, never heard of it.
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Don't know what that is.
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Sorry.
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This is all about Russia and Germany.
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It has nothing to do with Ukraine.
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Never heard of it at all.
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Now, we got it done, which remains astonishing.
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And by the way, I was on the phone repeatedly
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because it went off course about six times
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in the course of this negotiation.
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I was talking to different members
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and brought it back on course.
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Now, once it passed,
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there was a big lobbying effort
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within the Trump administration
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from the pro-Nordstream-2 forces
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that, first of all, wanted the Treasury—
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well, actually, before that—
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they wanted the National Security Council
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to issue a signing statement
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that would gut the sanctions.
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And I ended up picking up the phone
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and calling Trump's national security advisor,
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Robert O'Brien, who was a good friend of mine.
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Robert was in the NSC Christmas party at the time.
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This is December 2019.
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And I called over.
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I said, pull Robert out of the Christmas party.
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I need to talk to him right now.
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And I told Robert, I said,
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listen, this legislation is incredibly important.
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There are forces that are not positive and beneficial
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that are trying to get the White House
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to give a signing statement
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undercutting these sanctions.
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I said, if y'all do this,
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I'm going to go to the Senate floor
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and light you up.
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Please don't make me do this.
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I don't want to light you up.
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You don't want me to light you up.
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Do the right thing.
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Let's stand up and stop this.
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And Robert, to his credit,
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said, Ted, I got this.
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It's taken care of.
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And he quashed the lobbying effort
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to save the pipeline.
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There was a second effort.
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And it was an effort to get the Treasury Department
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to issue guidance
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concerning the sanctions
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that would essentially allow the pipeline
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to keep being built.
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Again, it's December.
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I'm on the phone with Treasury.
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I'm also texting Mike Pompeo,
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the Secretary of State.
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I'm working with the Department of Energy.
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I'm working with the National Security Council.
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There was a big interagency battle.
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Long and short of it is,
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we won the interagency battle
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and the people that were trying to get Treasury
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to gut the sanctions lost.
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I sent a letter
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to the CEO of All Seas Corporation,
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which was the company
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that was building the pipeline.
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And as you know, Ben,
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I spent a lot of years practicing law.
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Yeah.
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Whether as Solicitor General of Texas
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or in private practice,
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I've represented a lot of clients.
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I wrote a letter
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that was designed,
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and I'm going to give a technical legal term,
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to make the CEO's sphincter
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tighten so tight
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that he could form coal into diamonds.
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The letter said,
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you need to be advised
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that this legislation,
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which I drafted,
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creates sanctions that are immediate,
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that are non-waivable,
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and that are fatal,
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that are designed to destroy your company.
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And if you care about shareholder value,
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if you care about your executives,
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if you care about your employees,
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you will not continue to build this pipeline
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for even 60 seconds
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after the president signs this bill.
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If you do,
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you will destroy your company.
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Now, Trump signed the bill,
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if I remember correctly,
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at 7 p.m. on a Thursday night.
00:19:39.940
I was flying home to D.C.
00:19:41.800
7 p.m. on a Thursday night.
00:19:43.300
I landed in D.C.
00:19:44.540
Flying home to Houston, rather,
00:19:45.920
from D.C.
00:19:47.520
7 p.m. on a Thursday night,
00:19:49.820
the company building the pipeline
00:19:51.640
at Putin's direction
00:19:52.820
announces at 6.45 p.m.,
00:19:56.460
15 minutes before,
00:19:58.540
they've immediately halted construction
00:20:00.520
of the pipeline
00:20:01.180
and set sail away.
00:20:03.320
We had stopped this
00:20:05.940
because it was in America's interest
00:20:08.220
to stop this.
00:20:09.680
Biden gave Putin this gift
00:20:12.540
because he didn't have the strength
00:20:14.500
to stand up to Russia
00:20:16.020
and because he wanted to make nice with Germany.
00:20:19.120
Yeah.
00:20:19.320
And given that weakness,
00:20:21.340
look, I think if this pipeline had been built,
00:20:23.620
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00:20:26.000
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00:20:27.500
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00:20:29.740
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00:20:31.320
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00:20:34.240
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00:20:35.440
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00:20:38.200
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00:20:39.700
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00:20:41.160
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00:20:42.480
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00:20:44.560
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00:20:49.460
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Senator,
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despite pledging,
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and this is the part
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where it looks like
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the Washington Post
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was really going after
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the Biden administration
00:23:09.700
because they promised
00:23:10.840
that they were going to get
00:23:11.560
to the bottom of this.
00:23:12.280
I read that statement
00:23:13.320
at the very beginning
00:23:13.920
of the podcast today.
00:23:15.860
But despite pledging
00:23:17.720
to get to the bottom of it,
00:23:18.660
the Biden administration
00:23:19.820
is completely silent
00:23:22.400
and apparently
00:23:23.480
they already knew
00:23:24.440
what was going to happen.
00:23:25.540
They were briefed on it
00:23:26.260
months before.
00:23:27.200
So the president
00:23:28.040
may have just been lying to us
00:23:29.200
when he said
00:23:29.520
he was going to
00:23:30.180
send divers down there
00:23:31.580
and find out
00:23:32.260
what's really going on.
00:23:33.280
And the White House
00:23:33.960
was asked about this
00:23:35.580
yesterday.
00:23:37.060
Here's what John Kirby
00:23:38.160
had to say about it
00:23:38.760
when he was asked
00:23:39.300
by the press.
00:23:40.600
Is the U.S.
00:23:41.540
actively investigating?
00:23:42.980
No, who did it?
00:23:43.680
Why not?
00:23:44.600
There are three
00:23:45.240
European countries
00:23:46.060
that have embarked
00:23:50.460
on independent investigations
00:23:51.880
of this
00:23:52.400
and were comfortable
00:23:53.880
in their ability
00:23:54.980
to take a hard look
00:23:56.280
at this
00:23:56.600
and to come up
00:23:57.080
with conclusions.
00:23:58.060
He was hanging his head
00:23:59.800
by the way, Senator,
00:24:00.560
and you could barely hear him
00:24:01.800
when he said
00:24:02.300
the reporter said
00:24:02.940
is the U.S.
00:24:03.400
actively investigating?
00:24:04.760
And he had his head down
00:24:05.800
and he just said no.
00:24:06.880
Like it wasn't like
00:24:07.740
a proud no.
00:24:08.560
It wasn't like
00:24:09.000
absolutely not.
00:24:09.780
It was a
00:24:10.800
I'm going to answer that
00:24:11.840
and I'm going to answer
00:24:12.520
as quietly as I possibly can.
00:24:14.900
Why do you think
00:24:15.840
they're so quiet about this?
00:24:17.280
Because the last we heard
00:24:18.300
they were going to
00:24:18.800
investigate this by golly.
00:24:21.180
Well, listen,
00:24:22.460
the Biden White House
00:24:23.420
knows their foreign policy
00:24:24.960
failures are what
00:24:25.720
caused the war in Ukraine.
00:24:27.880
They also know
00:24:28.880
as we've talked about
00:24:29.600
at length on this podcast
00:24:30.720
that since the war began
00:24:32.740
they've been funding
00:24:34.340
both sides of the war.
00:24:35.500
They've been effectively
00:24:36.560
supporting Iran
00:24:39.080
by refusing to enforce
00:24:40.540
oil sanctions on Iran.
00:24:42.000
They've been funneling
00:24:42.820
billions of dollars
00:24:44.280
into the Ayatollah.
00:24:45.800
The Ayatollah has been using
00:24:47.080
those billions of dollars
00:24:48.060
to build drones
00:24:48.920
and those drones
00:24:49.700
the Russians have been using
00:24:50.880
to kill Ukrainians.
00:24:52.360
So the Biden administration
00:24:53.560
caused the war
00:24:54.420
through its own weakness
00:24:55.360
and now is funding
00:24:56.500
both sides of the war.
00:24:58.200
And so they are,
00:24:59.900
look, I'll give John Kirby
00:25:01.400
a little bit of credit
00:25:02.280
that he's at least sheepish
00:25:03.700
for the disaster
00:25:06.240
that this administration
00:25:07.640
has caused.
00:25:09.160
But I gotta say
00:25:10.920
the answer he gave yesterday
00:25:12.960
is utterly incompatible
00:25:15.880
with the administration's answer
00:25:17.320
when the pipeline blew up
00:25:18.500
when they claimed
00:25:19.240
this was an investigation
00:25:20.720
they were gonna get
00:25:21.400
to the bottom of.
00:25:22.380
Well, while at the same time
00:25:24.860
doing everything they could
00:25:25.660
to suggest it's Putin,
00:25:26.740
Putin, Putin.
00:25:27.320
Look, I think Putin's
00:25:28.020
a very bad guy
00:25:28.780
who does lots of stuff.
00:25:30.100
He just rarely blows up
00:25:31.180
his own stuff.
00:25:32.100
He blows up other people's stuff,
00:25:33.800
rarely his own stuff.
00:25:35.180
And so, you know,
00:25:37.200
for the White House
00:25:38.320
to be caught in,
00:25:39.800
at a minimum,
00:25:40.740
a massive inconsistency,
00:25:42.320
if not a flat-out lie,
00:25:44.280
that's less than ideal.
00:25:45.900
Yeah, I want to move also
00:25:47.240
to another big story, Senator.
00:25:48.940
You and I covered this
00:25:50.040
on Monday's episode,
00:25:52.140
and if you missed it,
00:25:53.060
go back and listen to it.
00:25:54.700
It was actually
00:25:55.380
the top of the charts
00:25:56.300
for all day on Monday
00:25:57.780
and Tuesday.
00:25:58.760
We did a deep dive
00:26:00.440
into what's going on
00:26:01.920
with the FBI Director Wray.
00:26:04.220
The House Oversight Committee
00:26:06.260
is now gonna move,
00:26:08.140
we're being told,
00:26:08.960
on Thursday
00:26:09.960
to hold the FBI Director,
00:26:12.320
Christopher Wray,
00:26:12.920
in contempt of Congress.
00:26:14.640
Now, why are they doing this?
00:26:16.500
Well, this all goes back
00:26:17.820
to the FBI-Biden document,
00:26:20.240
a document that they say
00:26:22.220
equates to basically
00:26:23.600
a bribery scheme,
00:26:25.640
money laundering,
00:26:26.600
where the president
00:26:27.400
was able to get his hands
00:26:28.420
on $5 million
00:26:29.660
for favors
00:26:31.680
when he was the vice president.
00:26:33.380
James Comer,
00:26:34.240
who saw that letter,
00:26:35.700
he still doesn't have
00:26:36.420
a copy of it himself,
00:26:37.540
but was able to read it,
00:26:38.860
had this to say
00:26:39.980
on Capitol Hill
00:26:40.780
after he walked out
00:26:42.060
of that meeting.
00:26:42.740
The claims made
00:26:44.080
in the document
00:26:45.640
are consistent
00:26:47.720
with what we found
00:26:49.680
and disclosed to you all
00:26:51.840
in Romania.
00:26:52.660
it suggests a pattern
00:26:56.600
of bribery
00:26:58.300
where payments would be made
00:27:01.020
through shell accounts
00:27:02.880
and multiple banks.
00:27:05.580
There's a term for that,
00:27:06.460
it's called money laundering.
00:27:07.920
And that, again,
00:27:08.680
is what the majority
00:27:10.380
of the suspicious activity reports
00:27:12.340
also said.
00:27:13.920
So we feel that this accusation
00:27:17.340
is consistent
00:27:18.040
with a pattern
00:27:19.000
that we're seeing,
00:27:20.920
frankly,
00:27:21.140
in other countries too.
00:27:23.160
That's pretty damning
00:27:24.300
when you start connecting
00:27:25.160
the dots, Senator.
00:27:26.080
You've got these documents now,
00:27:28.080
you've got the suspicious
00:27:28.940
activity reports,
00:27:30.420
you've got the
00:27:31.260
Hunter Biden laptop
00:27:32.460
that is connecting
00:27:33.360
a lot of these dots as well,
00:27:35.140
and you've got now
00:27:36.300
whistleblowers coming forward
00:27:37.800
that are sharing
00:27:38.600
information and intel.
00:27:40.320
This is painting
00:27:41.600
an extremely damning picture
00:27:43.560
to the Biden crime family,
00:27:46.780
and that is also
00:27:48.700
why the White House
00:27:50.060
must be feeling it
00:27:51.100
because this is unprecedented.
00:27:53.380
The White House
00:27:54.060
has actually come out
00:27:55.280
and claimed
00:27:56.120
that the Biden family business
00:27:57.940
quote represents
00:27:59.460
no national security threat.
00:28:03.160
And they even used
00:28:04.460
John Kirby,
00:28:05.100
the National Security Council
00:28:06.620
coordinator
00:28:07.040
for strategic communications.
00:28:09.100
He denied
00:28:09.840
that the Biden family
00:28:10.740
business schemes
00:28:11.440
represent a national security threat
00:28:13.040
despite admitting
00:28:13.780
he had not read
00:28:14.800
the House Oversight Committee's
00:28:16.880
report on the matter.
00:28:18.160
your reaction to that?
00:28:20.900
Well, I think the FBI
00:28:22.300
is facing a crisis
00:28:23.960
of integrity.
00:28:25.160
And in the last podcast,
00:28:26.960
and you're right,
00:28:27.600
if folks have not listened
00:28:29.420
to Monday's podcast,
00:28:31.520
they should,
00:28:32.040
because we did a deep dive
00:28:33.180
into this issue.
00:28:34.360
But the FBI
00:28:35.760
has a report
00:28:38.380
that was written
00:28:40.340
because a whistleblower,
00:28:42.380
an informant,
00:28:43.700
called in and said
00:28:44.860
that they had evidence
00:28:45.900
that Joe Biden
00:28:46.740
as vice president
00:28:47.660
was directly involved
00:28:49.560
in a bribery scheme,
00:28:51.380
according to the leaks,
00:28:52.520
in excess of $5 million
00:28:53.660
involving a foreign country,
00:28:56.480
and apparently
00:28:56.860
the foreign country
00:28:57.620
is not China.
00:29:02.640
The House of Representatives
00:29:04.020
investigating this
00:29:05.060
wanted to see that report.
00:29:06.500
Initially,
00:29:07.080
they subpoenaed that report,
00:29:08.640
and the FBI said,
00:29:10.360
go jump in a lake,
00:29:11.040
we won't give it to you.
00:29:12.540
And the House
00:29:13.460
was prepared to hold
00:29:14.540
Christopher Wray in contempt.
00:29:17.020
And Chris Wray blinked
00:29:19.500
and said,
00:29:21.160
okay,
00:29:21.500
we'll give you the report,
00:29:23.540
but James Comer
00:29:25.100
and Jamie Raskin,
00:29:26.120
the chairman and ranking member
00:29:27.260
of the committee investigating,
00:29:28.820
can review it yourselves,
00:29:30.660
but you can't make it public.
00:29:31.900
And so they brought it over,
00:29:32.820
they showed it to them.
00:29:34.260
Is that normal,
00:29:35.100
by the way?
00:29:35.640
And why would you do that?
00:29:37.520
Explain that to people listening.
00:29:39.300
So yes and no.
00:29:40.460
It's not bizarre.
00:29:42.780
There are times
00:29:44.080
when there's classified materials
00:29:45.840
or confidential materials
00:29:47.120
where the administration will say,
00:29:48.580
we'll show this to you privately
00:29:50.220
in a classified briefing
00:29:51.200
or confidential briefing.
00:29:52.440
And what we talked about
00:29:53.920
on Monday in the podcast
00:29:54.840
is, listen,
00:29:56.040
when you're dealing
00:29:56.940
with a confidential informant,
00:29:58.420
there are lots of instances
00:29:59.360
where some informant
00:30:00.280
provides some information,
00:30:01.500
say, on a drug cartel
00:30:02.560
or the mafia.
00:30:04.160
You know,
00:30:04.560
you get some hitman
00:30:05.960
who says,
00:30:06.520
okay,
00:30:06.740
I'm going to tell you
00:30:07.580
about the Don
00:30:09.380
and what he did.
00:30:10.460
That you don't want
00:30:12.140
the report
00:30:12.780
from the informant
00:30:13.760
made public
00:30:14.360
because if it is made public,
00:30:16.360
the crime boss
00:30:17.800
will have that guy killed.
00:30:19.520
And so it's not classified.
00:30:22.020
Classified typically involves
00:30:23.580
national security issues.
00:30:24.940
It involves
00:30:25.500
foreign policy issues.
00:30:27.300
In law enforcement,
00:30:28.400
it's not classified,
00:30:30.280
but it is confidential.
00:30:31.520
And law enforcement
00:30:32.300
confidential
00:30:32.800
is a serious status
00:30:35.000
because you want
00:30:35.860
to protect
00:30:36.420
the integrity
00:30:37.840
of a law enforcement
00:30:38.820
investigation
00:30:39.400
and you want
00:30:40.160
to protect
00:30:40.660
the identity
00:30:41.820
of an informant.
00:30:44.560
What you and I
00:30:45.860
talked about
00:30:46.440
two days ago
00:30:47.260
is the circumstances
00:30:49.320
here are very different.
00:30:50.400
Number one,
00:30:52.140
presumably,
00:30:52.800
this informant
00:30:53.700
is advising
00:30:56.700
not on
00:30:57.840
a mafia boss,
00:30:59.500
not on
00:31:00.060
El Chapo,
00:31:00.960
not on
00:31:01.320
some drug kingpin,
00:31:02.740
but on
00:31:04.000
Joseph Robinette
00:31:04.800
Biden Jr.,
00:31:06.260
then the vice president
00:31:07.300
of the United States,
00:31:08.080
now the president
00:31:08.680
of the United States,
00:31:09.780
one would assume
00:31:11.080
the law enforcement
00:31:12.140
interests
00:31:12.860
are markedly less
00:31:15.140
in that Biden
00:31:15.880
is not going to have
00:31:16.700
the guy whacked.
00:31:17.640
And by the way,
00:31:18.800
lefty Twitter
00:31:19.360
went insane
00:31:20.340
this week
00:31:21.520
because we said
00:31:22.320
in Monday's podcast,
00:31:23.440
I said,
00:31:23.960
it's reasonable
00:31:24.980
to assume
00:31:25.740
the threat
00:31:26.220
to the informant's
00:31:27.060
life is less
00:31:27.860
given that he was
00:31:29.080
informing on Joe Biden.
00:31:30.260
And they said,
00:31:30.600
oh my gosh,
00:31:31.780
you know,
00:31:32.140
Cruz is suggesting
00:31:33.080
that Joe Biden
00:31:33.900
is going to have
00:31:34.400
someone murdered.
00:31:35.100
I said,
00:31:35.480
no.
00:31:36.840
Actually,
00:31:37.320
what I said
00:31:37.840
is presumably,
00:31:38.680
I would hope
00:31:39.860
Joe Biden
00:31:40.780
is not going
00:31:41.560
to have someone
00:31:42.180
murdered.
00:31:42.880
But if that's
00:31:43.560
the case,
00:31:44.800
the FBI's interest
00:31:45.840
in keeping this
00:31:46.480
confidential
00:31:46.980
is much less.
00:31:49.300
Moreover,
00:31:49.880
the public interest,
00:31:52.440
a serious,
00:31:53.460
credible allegation
00:31:54.600
of bribery
00:31:55.340
and corruption
00:31:56.240
by the then
00:31:58.000
vice president,
00:31:58.880
now the president
00:31:59.500
of the United States,
00:32:00.240
that's a big
00:32:01.300
damn deal.
00:32:02.620
And so,
00:32:03.560
Comer saw
00:32:04.100
the document
00:32:04.700
and he left
00:32:06.140
the briefing
00:32:06.620
and said,
00:32:08.060
the American public
00:32:08.820
has a right
00:32:09.300
to know
00:32:09.600
what's in this
00:32:10.040
document.
00:32:11.220
We want
00:32:12.100
to make it public.
00:32:13.600
And Chris Ray
00:32:14.400
said,
00:32:14.740
nope,
00:32:15.040
not going to do it.
00:32:16.400
And so,
00:32:16.740
what's going to happen
00:32:17.560
tomorrow on Thursday
00:32:19.220
is the House
00:32:21.020
is going to vote
00:32:21.700
to hold Chris Ray
00:32:22.840
in contempt of Congress.
00:32:24.280
Now,
00:32:24.800
let me give a couple
00:32:26.120
of consequences
00:32:26.720
of this.
00:32:27.140
One,
00:32:28.500
this is a real
00:32:29.280
problem for the FBI.
00:32:31.180
Look,
00:32:31.480
the FBI uses
00:32:32.300
subpoenas every day.
00:32:34.060
They use subpoenas
00:32:34.980
all the time
00:32:35.680
to get information
00:32:36.440
they need
00:32:37.180
in law enforcement
00:32:37.920
investigations.
00:32:39.200
To have the director
00:32:40.520
held in contempt
00:32:41.740
for failing
00:32:43.200
to comply
00:32:43.760
with a subpoena
00:32:44.460
is a big problem
00:32:46.660
for all of the rest
00:32:48.200
of the FBI's ambit.
00:32:49.420
But secondly,
00:32:53.240
this is,
00:32:55.660
I believe,
00:32:56.100
a crisis
00:32:56.700
in integrity
00:32:58.140
for the FBI.
00:32:59.380
And so,
00:33:00.040
I want to make
00:33:00.520
a very direct appeal.
00:33:01.640
I went this week
00:33:03.100
on Hannity
00:33:03.640
and I made this appeal
00:33:04.460
to Chris Ray,
00:33:05.100
but I'm going to make it
00:33:05.620
on this podcast as well.
00:33:07.240
I know Chris Ray well.
00:33:09.860
Chris,
00:33:10.560
don't do this
00:33:13.320
to the FBI.
00:33:16.260
If Chris Ray
00:33:17.380
stiff arms the House,
00:33:18.820
if he forces
00:33:20.780
the House of Representatives
00:33:21.980
to hold him
00:33:22.840
in contempt,
00:33:24.200
it will do
00:33:25.680
massive damage
00:33:27.940
to the integrity
00:33:29.160
of the FBI.
00:33:30.040
Chris Ray
00:33:30.580
is a company man.
00:33:31.740
He believes
00:33:32.680
he's defending
00:33:33.500
the FBI
00:33:34.180
by circling the wagons
00:33:35.560
and not handing
00:33:36.260
material over.
00:33:37.560
But your job
00:33:39.040
is not to protect
00:33:40.140
the hardcore
00:33:41.060
left-wing partisans
00:33:42.540
who burrowed
00:33:43.680
into senior career
00:33:44.720
positions at the FBI.
00:33:46.640
Instead,
00:33:47.220
it's to protect
00:33:47.780
the institution
00:33:48.580
to protect
00:33:49.040
the rule of law
00:33:49.800
to protect
00:33:50.220
the Constitution.
00:33:51.620
You are ultimately
00:33:52.960
accountable
00:33:53.620
to the American people
00:33:54.960
and the American people
00:33:56.560
have a right to know
00:33:57.640
if there's credible evidence
00:33:59.040
that the President
00:34:00.060
of the United States
00:34:01.000
was involved
00:34:01.760
in bribery
00:34:02.660
from a foreign nation.
00:34:04.540
It is difficult
00:34:05.820
to imagine
00:34:06.800
an issue
00:34:08.060
of greater
00:34:08.800
public importance.
00:34:10.920
And so I'm calling
00:34:11.820
on Chris Ray.
00:34:13.300
Do the right thing.
00:34:15.060
Hand this document
00:34:16.460
over.
00:34:17.440
Don't dig in
00:34:19.180
as a stubborn
00:34:21.700
institutional warrior
00:34:23.760
and end up
00:34:26.460
being held
00:34:27.160
in contempt
00:34:27.820
of Congress.
00:34:28.480
Now, you might think,
00:34:29.560
gosh,
00:34:30.600
I'll be fine
00:34:31.560
because the Biden
00:34:33.120
DOJ
00:34:33.720
is so politicized
00:34:34.800
they'll never prosecute
00:34:35.920
the contempt
00:34:36.460
holding.
00:34:37.300
And that's true.
00:34:38.440
The chances
00:34:39.080
that Merrick Garland
00:34:39.980
will prosecute
00:34:40.860
Chris Ray for contempt
00:34:42.000
are 0.0%.
00:34:43.900
But the damage
00:34:45.560
to the integrity
00:34:46.340
of the FBI
00:34:46.960
will be massive
00:34:48.080
if Chris Ray
00:34:48.940
refuses to give in
00:34:52.040
to public accountability.
00:34:53.520
So I'm calling
00:34:54.740
on the director
00:34:55.420
of the FBI.
00:34:56.240
Donald Trump
00:34:56.780
appointed you.
00:34:57.760
You're not
00:34:58.360
a left-wing partisan.
00:35:00.140
Your loyalty
00:35:00.880
is not
00:35:01.820
to the rabid partisans
00:35:04.640
in the senior positions
00:35:05.700
of the FBI.
00:35:06.560
Your loyalty
00:35:07.120
should be
00:35:08.080
to the Constitution
00:35:09.720
and the American people.
00:35:10.900
And that means
00:35:11.900
you should hand
00:35:12.460
this document over
00:35:13.280
for the people
00:35:14.140
to assess it
00:35:14.980
on the merits.
00:35:16.500
When it comes
00:35:17.640
to the investigation
00:35:18.380
side of it,
00:35:19.480
and this is obviously
00:35:20.240
a little bit separate
00:35:21.160
from Ray,
00:35:23.520
but the House
00:35:24.080
Oversight Committee's probe
00:35:25.440
found that the
00:35:26.180
Biden family businesses
00:35:27.200
over the course
00:35:28.220
of several years
00:35:28.980
received,
00:35:29.760
and this is the most
00:35:30.360
important part
00:35:31.000
about the whistleblower
00:35:32.260
and also this new
00:35:33.540
accusation that there
00:35:34.520
was $5 million
00:35:35.240
in a bribery scheme
00:35:36.700
to then-Vice President
00:35:37.960
Joe Biden
00:35:38.520
for favors from America.
00:35:39.800
Over the course
00:35:41.080
of several years,
00:35:41.920
and this is what
00:35:42.900
we at least know
00:35:43.580
of now,
00:35:44.520
the Biden family
00:35:45.500
businesses
00:35:46.380
and their shell
00:35:47.340
companies,
00:35:48.080
Senator,
00:35:48.360
received at least
00:35:48.940
$10 million
00:35:49.620
from business schemes
00:35:51.620
in Romania
00:35:52.500
and China.
00:35:54.180
You look at
00:35:55.340
how much money
00:35:56.380
we're finding here,
00:35:57.640
and a lot of people
00:35:58.760
believe this other
00:35:59.360
$5 million
00:35:59.940
is going to be
00:36:00.560
coming in from Romania.
00:36:01.860
This is a massive
00:36:03.380
amount of money
00:36:04.420
coming in,
00:36:05.300
and it's coming
00:36:06.760
in to business
00:36:08.640
associates
00:36:09.360
designing a web
00:36:11.080
of companies
00:36:11.700
over 20
00:36:12.620
that we know of,
00:36:13.960
many of which
00:36:14.780
were formed
00:36:15.280
during Joe Biden's
00:36:16.720
vice presidency,
00:36:17.500
and the committee
00:36:18.620
said in total
00:36:19.260
the Biden family
00:36:20.480
business associates
00:36:21.240
and their companies
00:36:22.020
received over $10 million
00:36:23.080
from foreign national
00:36:24.100
companies,
00:36:25.160
the committee found,
00:36:26.440
and that's just $10 million
00:36:27.440
alone outside
00:36:28.040
of everything else.
00:36:29.640
Look,
00:36:30.380
this is utterly bizarre.
00:36:31.980
I do not know
00:36:33.920
any person
00:36:34.600
in public life,
00:36:35.420
I don't know
00:36:35.800
any senator,
00:36:36.800
I don't know
00:36:37.420
any House member,
00:36:38.460
I don't know
00:36:38.900
any member
00:36:39.340
of the executive branch,
00:36:41.460
whose family members
00:36:42.880
received millions
00:36:44.160
of dollars
00:36:44.740
from foreign nations
00:36:45.860
and foreign companies.
00:36:47.420
This is not typical,
00:36:49.080
this is not usual.
00:36:51.020
It is utterly bizarre.
00:36:52.580
We know that Hunter Biden
00:36:53.620
received over
00:36:54.420
a million dollars
00:36:55.460
a year from Burisma,
00:36:56.700
the Ukrainian
00:36:57.200
natural gas company.
00:36:58.720
We know that up
00:36:59.760
to a dozen
00:37:00.360
Biden family members
00:37:01.640
received millions
00:37:02.500
of dollars
00:37:02.960
from Chinese
00:37:03.560
communist countries.
00:37:05.200
Now there are
00:37:05.740
these allegations
00:37:06.500
about a mysterious
00:37:07.600
third country,
00:37:08.660
we don't know
00:37:09.000
what that is.
00:37:09.680
Now there are
00:37:10.040
additional allegations
00:37:11.320
about Romania,
00:37:12.640
we don't know
00:37:13.320
the details of that.
00:37:15.440
It is bizarre.
00:37:17.340
Why are your family
00:37:18.480
members getting
00:37:19.360
millions of bucks?
00:37:20.380
Look,
00:37:20.960
foreign nations,
00:37:22.100
Ben,
00:37:23.040
you're a really
00:37:23.540
successful guy.
00:37:24.680
You're a well-respected
00:37:26.760
radio host,
00:37:27.780
you've been,
00:37:28.240
you've been a talk
00:37:29.600
radio host
00:37:30.300
with a national following
00:37:31.300
since you were
00:37:31.760
literally 12 years old,
00:37:32.940
which is a little bit bizarre.
00:37:34.620
You're sort of
00:37:35.300
a freakish prodigy.
00:37:36.460
I'll take that compliment
00:37:37.560
any day.
00:37:39.020
But,
00:37:40.100
okay,
00:37:40.440
let me just ask you
00:37:41.200
right now,
00:37:41.720
on the record,
00:37:42.400
under oath,
00:37:43.160
have the Chinese
00:37:44.660
communists paid you
00:37:45.480
millions of dollars?
00:37:46.400
Never.
00:37:47.240
Have they paid you
00:37:47.860
a dollar?
00:37:48.740
No.
00:37:49.820
Like,
00:37:50.800
who the hell
00:37:51.680
does that?
00:37:52.780
Like,
00:37:53.040
who the hell
00:37:53.780
has all of these
00:37:55.260
companies?
00:37:55.400
Yeah, I've never had
00:37:56.840
and by the way,
00:37:57.880
even worse,
00:37:59.760
like,
00:38:00.160
your Aunt Bertha
00:38:00.940
is getting millions
00:38:02.240
of bucks.
00:38:02.640
I don't know
00:38:02.880
if you have an Aunt Bertha,
00:38:03.620
I don't know
00:38:03.880
if Joe Biden
00:38:04.360
has an Aunt Bertha,
00:38:05.280
but what the hell?
00:38:06.380
They're like rounding up
00:38:07.480
any Biden family member,
00:38:09.080
you know,
00:38:09.440
idiot cousin Lenny,
00:38:10.960
who's like babbling
00:38:12.220
to himself,
00:38:13.020
let's give him
00:38:13.600
$100,000.
00:38:14.760
Like,
00:38:15.620
that reeks
00:38:16.700
of corruption
00:38:17.500
at a level
00:38:18.600
that is weird.
00:38:20.760
Yeah.
00:38:20.880
And the only way
00:38:22.500
the corporate media
00:38:23.460
can whitewash this
00:38:24.960
is to ignore it
00:38:25.840
because you can't explain,
00:38:27.560
well, gosh,
00:38:28.460
isn't everybody
00:38:29.320
on the take
00:38:30.040
from communist China?
00:38:31.160
No.
00:38:31.840
No, they're not.
00:38:33.700
This is a big damn problem
00:38:35.780
and it's why Chris Wray
00:38:37.100
owes it to the American people
00:38:39.600
to be forthcoming.
00:38:41.100
He doesn't work
00:38:42.100
for the bureaucrats.
00:38:43.200
He doesn't work
00:38:43.760
for Merrick Garland.
00:38:44.960
He works
00:38:45.920
for the American people
00:38:47.560
and he should behave like it.
00:38:49.140
This money,
00:38:50.080
and again,
00:38:50.560
it was very clear
00:38:51.600
that James Comer
00:38:52.900
was tipping his hat
00:38:54.460
a little bit
00:38:54.900
that this $5 million
00:38:56.200
bribery scheme
00:38:57.080
was dealt something
00:38:58.740
with probably Romania.
00:39:00.560
The reporting
00:39:01.300
that we have,
00:39:02.320
and this has,
00:39:03.320
again,
00:39:03.620
before this report,
00:39:05.980
was that from November
00:39:07.120
2015 to May 2017,
00:39:09.880
there was a company
00:39:10.400
called Bladen Enterprises.
00:39:11.920
They paid
00:39:12.340
Robinson Walker LLC
00:39:13.940
over $3 million.
00:39:15.900
Now,
00:39:16.160
this Bladen Enterprises
00:39:17.760
reported to be
00:39:18.500
this company
00:39:22.260
that was used
00:39:24.100
to conduct business
00:39:25.040
in Romania
00:39:25.840
from a shady
00:39:26.860
Romanian oligarch.
00:39:28.800
Robinson Walker
00:39:29.680
is the Biden family
00:39:31.300
business partner
00:39:32.020
who collectively
00:39:33.300
sent the Biden family
00:39:35.620
that $1.3 million
00:39:37.060
to all of those
00:39:38.220
Biden family members
00:39:39.140
when the Biden crime family
00:39:40.160
really exploded
00:39:40.820
in the number of Bidens.
00:39:42.700
And the Biden family
00:39:43.780
accounts,
00:39:44.760
now we know,
00:39:45.600
received approximately
00:39:46.360
$1,038,000
00:39:48.700
from the Robinson Walker
00:39:51.240
LLC account
00:39:52.400
after this Romanian company
00:39:55.620
deposited money
00:39:56.520
in his accounts.
00:39:57.820
Now,
00:39:58.040
the committee revealed
00:39:58.840
all of this
00:39:59.560
based upon
00:40:00.240
wire transfers.
00:40:01.800
That was part of all
00:40:02.840
these suspicious
00:40:03.420
activity reports.
00:40:04.500
And in total,
00:40:05.620
16 of the 17 payments
00:40:07.880
from this Bladen Enterprises
00:40:09.380
to Robinson Walker LLC
00:40:11.600
were made
00:40:12.200
while Joe Biden
00:40:13.320
was the vice president
00:40:15.100
of the United States
00:40:15.980
of America.
00:40:16.940
Knowing that money
00:40:17.860
was coming in
00:40:18.480
when he was
00:40:18.800
the vice president,
00:40:19.780
Senator,
00:40:20.160
is there going to be
00:40:21.360
any accountability
00:40:21.980
for that?
00:40:23.680
From the Biden
00:40:24.620
Department of Justice,
00:40:25.620
I don't believe there will.
00:40:27.280
But from the House
00:40:28.280
of Representatives,
00:40:28.940
I hope and believe
00:40:29.940
there will.
00:40:30.580
I will commend
00:40:31.600
James Comer.
00:40:32.620
I'll commend
00:40:33.140
Jim Jordan.
00:40:34.520
They have been
00:40:35.080
driving this.
00:40:36.240
I have been trying
00:40:37.200
to drive this
00:40:37.880
from the Senate.
00:40:38.560
I have been pushing
00:40:39.180
this from the Senate.
00:40:39.980
The problem is
00:40:40.760
the Senate Democrats
00:40:42.740
have the majority.
00:40:43.720
and Senate Democrats,
00:40:45.480
there is not
00:40:46.340
a single Democrat,
00:40:47.900
not one,
00:40:48.600
who gives a damn
00:40:50.320
about whether
00:40:52.160
the president
00:40:52.760
of the United States
00:40:53.720
is directly implicated
00:40:56.840
in a bribery scheme
00:40:57.900
involving foreign nations.
00:40:59.100
Because if they gave a damn,
00:41:00.660
they'd do something about it.
00:41:02.240
Look, I'm in hearings
00:41:03.100
every week
00:41:03.580
from the Judiciary Committee.
00:41:05.640
One of the Democrats
00:41:06.840
could ask a witness about it.
00:41:08.280
None of them ever have.
00:41:10.240
Dick Durbin is chairman
00:41:11.360
of the Judiciary Committee.
00:41:12.320
He could convene a hearing.
00:41:13.720
He hasn't.
00:41:15.420
Bob Menendez is chairman
00:41:16.860
of the Foreign Relations Committee.
00:41:18.080
I serve on that as well.
00:41:19.740
He could convene a hearing.
00:41:21.280
He hasn't.
00:41:22.140
He could ask a question.
00:41:23.760
He hasn't.
00:41:24.760
None of the Democrats
00:41:25.760
on the committee
00:41:26.360
have asked questions.
00:41:27.940
They don't care.
00:41:29.420
And unfortunately,
00:41:30.600
Senate Democrats
00:41:31.280
are putting partisan politics.
00:41:34.860
Go back to Richard Nixon
00:41:36.900
and Watergate.
00:41:38.240
You want to know
00:41:39.480
why the Nixon White House fell,
00:41:42.000
why Nixon resigned
00:41:43.180
while that scandal came down.
00:41:44.760
It was because Republicans
00:41:46.740
had the testicular fortitude
00:41:49.720
to stand up and say,
00:41:51.100
this is corrupt
00:41:52.840
and we'll stand up
00:41:54.620
to our own party
00:41:55.400
and say no.
00:41:56.240
Is there even one Democrat?
00:41:59.100
And by the way,
00:42:00.020
they don't need to call him out
00:42:01.280
and say it's corrupt.
00:42:02.360
They could just start
00:42:03.700
by saying,
00:42:04.560
wow,
00:42:05.440
these allegations
00:42:06.100
are serious.
00:42:06.820
We need answers.
00:42:08.700
Like,
00:42:09.060
that's not much.
00:42:10.420
That's asking for
00:42:11.520
a tiny little mustard seed
00:42:14.020
of integrity.
00:42:15.540
In the House,
00:42:16.600
if there's been a House Democrat
00:42:17.740
who's done that,
00:42:18.500
I haven't seen it.
00:42:19.420
Every hearing they have,
00:42:20.500
the House Democrats
00:42:21.300
all act like
00:42:22.260
the Praetorian Guard
00:42:23.280
or actually more like
00:42:24.840
the sort of
00:42:25.920
legally blonde cheerleaders
00:42:27.240
with miniskirts
00:42:29.200
and pom-poms
00:42:30.160
surrounding Joe Biden
00:42:31.220
in the White House.
00:42:31.900
but none of them
00:42:34.120
that I've seen
00:42:34.980
has a shred of integrity
00:42:36.320
to say,
00:42:37.180
gosh,
00:42:39.080
that would be a problem
00:42:40.660
if the President
00:42:41.280
of the United States
00:42:41.980
is on the take
00:42:42.900
from a foreign nation.
00:42:44.900
One of them should do so.
00:42:46.340
And by the way,
00:42:48.420
when was the last time
00:42:50.020
CNN asked about this,
00:42:51.860
MSNBC asked about this,
00:42:53.940
ABC asked about this,
00:42:55.160
NBC asked about this.
00:42:55.360
Total silence from them.
00:42:56.860
I will say,
00:42:58.080
CBS,
00:42:58.620
to their credit,
00:42:59.680
has covered this
00:43:02.260
a little bit.
00:43:03.460
So it's almost
00:43:04.160
the only outlier
00:43:05.600
from the corporate media
00:43:06.620
who's dared to cover it.
00:43:08.140
But where's the,
00:43:08.780
where's the 60-minute special?
00:43:11.680
Where's the,
00:43:12.580
you remember Ted Koppel,
00:43:13.980
where's Nightline?
00:43:15.260
Yeah.
00:43:15.460
Like corruption
00:43:16.240
in the White House.
00:43:17.340
The corporate media
00:43:19.040
does not care.
00:43:21.660
Where are Woodward
00:43:22.320
and Bernstein?
00:43:23.520
There are no
00:43:24.380
Woodward and Bernsteins.
00:43:25.420
Apparently,
00:43:25.860
reporters don't exist anymore.
00:43:27.820
Great point.
00:43:28.520
I want to ask you
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quickly about something else.
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with the Southern Poverty Law Center
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has now added
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parental rights groups
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to the same list
00:43:38.740
of hate groups
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that they put them next
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to now the Ku Klux Klan.
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lastly,
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Senator,
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the Southern
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Poverty Law Center
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has added
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parental rights
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groups,
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including a group
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that I've had
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on my show,
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Moms for Liberty,
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several others,
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to its hate map,
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which plots
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conservative groups
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alongside chapters
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of the Ku Klux Klan.
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Your reaction
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to that?
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Well,
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the Southern
00:45:41.100
Poverty Law Center,
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unfortunately,
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is a profoundly
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dishonest,
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rabidly partisan,
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left-wing organization.
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it has a business
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model where
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it gets
00:45:51.140
very wealthy
00:45:52.920
left-wing
00:45:53.720
billionaires
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to write them
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big checks
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in order to
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try to
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tar
00:46:00.360
anyone
00:46:01.640
right of center
00:46:02.420
and to call them
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hate groups.
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Among other groups,
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they've called
00:46:05.020
the Alliance Defending Freedom,
00:46:06.320
which is one of the most
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important organizations
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nationally for
00:46:09.700
defending religious liberty,
00:46:10.940
for litigating and winning
00:46:12.040
national Supreme Court
00:46:13.660
victories in front of the
00:46:14.560
Supreme Court.
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So you literally have
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this organization
00:46:16.580
of public interest lawyers
00:46:18.200
who are winning
00:46:18.960
religious liberty victories
00:46:20.040
before the Supreme Court
00:46:21.140
that the Southern
00:46:22.340
Poverty Law Center
00:46:23.260
calls a hate group
00:46:24.780
like the Nazis,
00:46:25.600
the KKK.
00:46:26.580
They also call
00:46:27.640
the Family Research Center,
00:46:28.880
which is a fantastic,
00:46:30.660
Family Research Council
00:46:31.400
is a fantastic organization
00:46:33.060
that is pro-life,
00:46:35.920
is pro-traditional values,
00:46:37.480
that fights for family values
00:46:39.200
across this country.
00:46:40.640
They label them
00:46:41.500
as a hate group,
00:46:42.240
and in fact,
00:46:42.860
the Southern Poverty Law Center
00:46:44.000
designation of the FRC
00:46:47.720
as a hate group
00:46:48.360
led one radical,
00:46:50.060
deranged,
00:46:50.700
angry leftist
00:46:51.520
to show up with a gun
00:46:52.480
trying to murder people
00:46:53.660
at the FRC,
00:46:55.180
and thankfully,
00:46:55.940
there was a security guard
00:46:57.300
who heroically stopped
00:46:58.840
this crazed,
00:47:00.460
attempted murderer
00:47:01.200
from carrying out
00:47:02.500
the hate
00:47:03.020
that was inspired
00:47:03.800
by the SPLC.
00:47:05.080
SPLC is so radical,
00:47:07.180
they had a lawyer
00:47:08.240
just recently
00:47:09.560
that worked for them
00:47:10.720
who was arrested
00:47:12.440
for being an Antifa terrorist
00:47:14.880
in Atlanta
00:47:15.680
and participating
00:47:17.300
in terrorist riots
00:47:18.520
against law enforcement.
00:47:20.200
Mind you,
00:47:20.580
SPLC said
00:47:21.520
when their own employee
00:47:22.740
was nominated to be,
00:47:24.200
was indicted
00:47:25.820
as being an Antifa terrorist,
00:47:27.340
said,
00:47:27.520
we stand by our employee.
00:47:29.540
That's who they are.
00:47:30.620
By the way,
00:47:31.720
their director of litigation,
00:47:33.300
a radical left-winger,
00:47:34.560
Joe Biden,
00:47:35.080
is nominated
00:47:35.560
to be a federal court
00:47:36.280
of appeals judge,
00:47:37.640
and the Democrats
00:47:38.380
happily stood with her.
00:47:40.420
Well,
00:47:40.840
now the Southern Poverty Law Center
00:47:42.960
is going on offense,
00:47:45.260
and they've decided
00:47:45.980
to target Moms for Liberty.
00:47:47.540
Let me say,
00:47:48.020
Moms for Liberty,
00:47:49.080
they are phenomenal women.
00:47:50.860
They are moms
00:47:51.520
who are standing up
00:47:52.420
for their kids.
00:47:53.500
And you want to know
00:47:54.380
the power of Moms for Liberty?
00:47:56.280
Let me tell you someone
00:47:57.220
who would not have
00:47:58.460
the first name in his title,
00:48:00.840
and that would be
00:48:01.540
Governor Glenn Youngkin.
00:48:03.360
Without Moms for Liberty,
00:48:04.620
Governor Glenn Youngkin
00:48:05.500
would be Glenn Youngkin.
00:48:07.360
There'd be no governor.
00:48:08.900
We'd have Governor
00:48:09.620
Terry McAuliffe
00:48:10.520
because Virginia,
00:48:12.460
which Biden won
00:48:13.340
by nearly 10 points,
00:48:15.200
Virginia flipped red.
00:48:16.240
And why did Virginia
00:48:16.940
flip red?
00:48:17.560
It flipped red
00:48:18.100
because moms stood up
00:48:19.160
and they were ticked off
00:48:20.260
at the left-wing
00:48:21.200
takeover of their schools.
00:48:22.360
They were ticked off
00:48:23.220
at the woke ideology.
00:48:25.040
They were ticked off
00:48:25.880
at Loudoun County,
00:48:27.180
at the school district
00:48:28.360
covering up
00:48:29.200
for a sexual predator,
00:48:31.100
a boy wearing a skirt
00:48:32.520
in the girls' restroom,
00:48:33.600
assaulted and raped a girl.
00:48:35.000
They were ticked off
00:48:36.540
at the critical race theory
00:48:38.260
being taught to their kids.
00:48:40.120
And Moms for Liberty
00:48:41.260
energized moms
00:48:42.880
in Virginia
00:48:43.500
and across the country.
00:48:44.420
They also energized moms
00:48:45.640
who were mad
00:48:46.520
at the school shutdowns
00:48:47.620
and said,
00:48:47.960
look,
00:48:48.120
our kids deserve schooling.
00:48:50.160
These radical ideologues
00:48:52.100
are shutting down schools
00:48:53.380
and hurting our children.
00:48:54.740
And these moms engaged.
00:48:56.960
They spoke out.
00:48:57.920
They were powerful.
00:48:58.940
They flipped Virginia
00:49:02.620
from blue to red
00:49:03.480
to the shock
00:49:04.600
of the left-wing establishment.
00:49:06.480
And what has
00:49:06.760
the Southern Poverty Law Center said?
00:49:08.920
Moms,
00:49:09.560
they're defending their kids,
00:49:11.540
are a hate group.
00:49:13.060
I'm going to say right now
00:49:14.160
the SPLC is a radical
00:49:15.940
left-wing hate group.
00:49:17.780
I'm going to use that term.
00:49:19.120
They hate you.
00:49:20.060
They hate me.
00:49:21.340
They hate America.
00:49:22.880
They hate conservatives.
00:49:24.280
They hate the Constitution.
00:49:25.500
They hate the Bill of Rights.
00:49:26.520
They hate families.
00:49:28.360
They hate moms.
00:49:29.180
They hate dads.
00:49:30.080
They hate anyone
00:49:31.120
who stands up for this country.
00:49:33.440
And I got to say,
00:49:34.360
for the SPLC
00:49:35.180
to go after Moms for Liberty
00:49:36.460
is disgusting.
00:49:38.460
Senator, as always,
00:49:39.400
it's a pleasure.
00:49:40.100
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