Verdict with Ted Cruz - Dr. Phil One-on-One： Covid Science, Kids & Social Media and What Women Want (Part Two)

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00:01:54.940 Dr. Phil, part two, nice to have you with us today as well as we're talking about America, American families, and everything that's going on in this country.

00:02:03.300 Plus, we're going to get into a very important issue, and that is the issue of COVID and what impact it had on the families in this country.

00:02:10.620 Well, and I've got to say, this has been fascinating.

00:02:13.140 We've covered a lot of topics that VERDICT typically doesn't get into.

00:02:17.720 We've covered being a parent, being a spouse.

00:02:21.180 We've covered the mental health challenges facing our kids.

00:02:25.240 And we've talked about the desperate need for truth.

00:02:28.340 And I will say, if you didn't listen to part one, go back and listen to part one because you're not going to want to miss the discussion from Dr. Phil unplugged in a way you may not have seen him before, but saying things that need to be said and demonstrating an enormous amount of courage.

00:02:46.680 Well, I'm like a bad rash.

00:02:47.960 You can't get rid of me.

00:02:48.800 Work ethic in society today.

00:02:52.700 As parents, you want to raise your kids to love the Lord.

00:02:55.220 You want to raise your kids to have manners.

00:02:58.280 But we're being undermined, parents are being undermined with work ethic.

00:03:01.860 We're a double-income society, and you have both parents working so much that they're just really burning the candle at both ends.

00:03:16.500 And some of those fundamentals really aren't being focused on.

00:03:27.080 And you say, how do we get the work ethic?

00:03:30.740 The senator and I were talking earlier, you and I are so aligned and focused because I said meritocracy is so important to me.

00:03:42.780 If we lose that, and right now, we've got a government that wants to give everything to everybody for free.

00:03:57.240 And we're teaching people that you don't have to work hard for what you want.

00:04:06.280 And the statistics are staggering.

00:04:09.620 If people spend month after month after month not full-time working, they're off work, like during the pandemic, the chance of them coming back.

00:04:22.020 Everybody thought when the pandemic was over, it was going to look like that scene in the movie Grease at the end of the school year where those doors flung open.

00:04:32.260 And it was a carnival, and everybody comes running out, and it wasn't that way at all.

00:04:37.520 People were intimidated.

00:04:38.780 Things they used to take for granted were now intimidating.

00:04:42.300 And when you don't hold people to a standard, then I've spent a lot of time in rehab, and I'm not talking about drug rehab.

00:04:54.720 I'm talking about rehabilitating people with brain injuries and spinal cord injuries.

00:04:59.940 And if it takes someone that has had that kind of injury, and they need to turn the light on, and it takes them three minutes to get over there to do it, or you could walk over and do it for them,

00:05:15.340 you need to require them to do 100% of what they're able to do, or they'll never get to the next level.

00:05:24.360 And so you asked me, how do we get them to do that?

00:05:28.320 By requiring them to do everything they can do every chance we get to do it.

00:05:36.980 And right now, almost a third of fifth and eighth graders can't read at the most fundamental level.

00:05:50.880 They can't read a sentence.

00:05:52.600 And the question is, how did they get in the fifth grade?

00:05:56.360 How did they get in the eighth grade?

00:05:59.120 Nineteen percent of high school graduates can't read.

00:06:05.120 They cannot read.

00:06:07.140 How do you graduate high school if you can't read?

00:06:12.300 In the first, second, and third grade, you learn to read.

00:06:16.820 From the fourth grade on, you read to learn.

00:06:20.480 So if you don't learn to read in those first three grades, you don't have that tool to learn the rest of your life.

00:06:29.820 And if teachers are going to pass them either way, then you're just setting them up to fail.

00:06:37.680 It's utterly destructive.

00:06:39.160 You know, one of the things you mentioned in that answer is you talked about coming out of COVID.

00:06:44.320 And I'd be interested in your judgment on what was the damage that was done from a mental health perspective, from the shutdowns we had across the country, and what was the damage in particular to kids from tens of millions of kids across this country had their schools shut down for a year or more?

00:07:06.440 And what do you see as the consequences of those policies?

00:07:11.120 When they shut down this country in the schools at the beginning of COVID and said this is going to be for a couple of weeks, I said, I get it.

00:07:18.760 When it turned into a month or two months, I went public and said, what you're doing is going to create more damage and more loss of life than the virus itself.

00:07:36.580 So you saw it before a lot of people didn't? 0.99

00:07:39.520 Well, I actually said it and got called a complete idiot. 0.99

00:07:49.740 I've never had that happen to me. 0.99

00:07:51.300 Yeah, me neither.

00:07:52.360 I got called a complete, I got attacked from every possible way you can.

00:07:58.280 And I said, I stand by what I say.

00:08:01.840 And I said it, I think I've got 15 clips of different times that I said, shutting this country down and taking our kids out of school for a prolonged period of time.

00:08:16.620 And the epidemiological pediatricians estimate that it will cost somewhere around 15 million years of life lost.

00:08:26.940 Wow.

00:08:27.780 Wow.

00:08:28.760 For these kids.

00:08:29.700 And they figure that because you got roughly 50 million kids in public school plus the private schools.

00:08:38.460 And because of what they lost, they will never close that gap.

00:08:46.660 And with lesser educational achievement, they will get lesser jobs.

00:08:51.160 Lesser jobs are usually higher risk jobs because they're blue collar and they're working with machinery.

00:08:59.100 And construction and construction and things where they get injured.

00:09:02.480 They have poor health coverage, which means they get slower diagnosis and lesser care.

00:09:07.760 And so it obtains with years of life shaved off the end of their lives.

00:09:13.580 And what gets me is they did this, the same agencies that advocated for this are the same agencies that had the records that said,

00:09:27.540 we have the highest levels of anxiety, depression and loneliness among our children than we've had since records were being kept.

00:09:36.680 So let's shut down the schools, which we know are essential to their development.

00:09:46.860 It's like throwing gas on a fire.

00:09:49.920 And that doesn't even take into account that mandated reporters are in these schools who report child abuse and molestation and referrals to the Department of Child and Family Services dropped in some areas 50 to 60 percent.

00:10:10.400 And trust me, abuse and molestation did not drop 50 to 60 percent.

00:10:16.260 We simply rendered those children alone with their abusers for two years without eyes on them to report it to people that could help them.

00:10:27.500 We simply abandoned them to their abusers.

00:10:33.060 And so many of these children relied on those schools for at least one, if not two meals per day.

00:10:41.380 We took that away and some say, well, but they delivered those meals.

00:10:45.840 Some got them delivered, some didn't.

00:10:48.640 So we created a huge educational gap.

00:10:52.180 We abandoned the abused and molested children to their abusers and molesters, and nobody has done anything to close the gap.

00:11:02.280 Other than that, no problem.

00:11:06.900 You know, I'll actually say today is an interesting milestone.

00:11:10.680 I tweeted about it earlier today.

00:11:13.680 Today is the 66th anniversary of the day that my father came to the United States of America.

00:11:20.500 So 66 years ago, in 1957, my dad landed in America, and he was fleeing Cuba.

00:11:27.080 And he'd been imprisoned in Cuba.

00:11:28.600 He'd been tortured in Cuba.

00:11:30.560 And he came here with nothing.

00:11:31.780 He came here with $100 in his underwear, and he washed dishes.

00:11:36.520 He made 50 cents an hour.

00:11:38.340 And America gave him freedom, gave him security, gave him hope,

00:11:43.780 gave him the ability to work and excel and achieve and prosper.

00:11:49.800 And there is no nation in the history of the world like America.

00:11:54.740 And that is, look, on too many college campuses, the faculties don't believe it.

00:12:00.960 You and I were talking earlier today about your conversations with college kids

00:12:05.800 who, when it comes to looters in California, say that the looters have a right to take what they want.

00:12:11.640 The shoplifters, I've had them sit in my studio and say they're taking what's rightfully theirs

00:12:16.520 because they're not being paid a living wage.

00:12:21.300 And, look, I get it, but if you're sitting home in a beanbag eating Cheetos

00:12:26.920 while somebody else is working their butt off for 15 years to get consequential knowledge

00:12:34.480 that people are willing to pay for, you don't get the same outcome.

00:12:39.680 You have to work for what you want.

00:12:42.380 That's what I said.

00:12:43.060 When you choose the behavior, you choose the consequences.

00:12:45.980 And do we need to give everybody better chances and better choices?

00:12:50.660 Yes.

00:12:51.280 We need to work on that.

00:12:52.780 There's no doubt about that.

00:12:54.360 But you cannot tell everybody that they're going to get the same outcome.

00:13:00.420 And we've got college professors that are in there supposedly teaching art history

00:13:04.540 that are getting into all of this.

00:13:07.780 And if I had a child in college right now that were getting taught that,

00:13:12.500 I would be real upset about that.

00:13:16.280 Because let me tell you, where are those professors going to be five years later

00:13:20.760 when that young man is trying to buy braces for his son or daughter and pay the rent?

00:13:26.900 I'll tell you where they're going to be.

00:13:27.980 They're going to be gonzo.

00:13:29.040 You're not going to be able to find them with both hands and a flashlight

00:13:32.100 because they're going to be gone.

00:13:34.140 They're going to be down the road somewhere.

00:13:35.820 And then here's this person that got this college education

00:13:38.680 and wasn't taught to cope with the real world, which is a shark tank.

00:13:43.980 You get out there in the real world where somebody's looking for somebody to produce

00:13:47.660 and here was somebody taught, no, it's the employer's job to get along with them

00:13:52.080 instead of the other way around.

00:13:53.900 We did shows of these people that were doing quiet quitting where they just said,

00:13:59.560 well, you just do the bare minimum.

00:14:01.960 Well, see where that gets you.

00:14:04.400 This is not what we need to be talking about in America right now.

00:14:09.660 So how do we change it?

00:14:10.660 We change it by people hearing what's going on,

00:14:14.900 hearing that these algorithms are programmed to attack our children,

00:14:19.840 hearing what's going on on the college campuses,

00:14:23.360 hearing that kids are getting their feelings hurt and they're medicalizing it.

00:14:30.700 There have been more professors suspended, disciplined, or dismissed

00:14:35.260 in the last 20 or 30 years since the McCarthy era

00:14:40.960 because now they're saying, no, this injured me.

00:14:46.840 You didn't hurt my feelings.

00:14:47.720 It injured me.

00:14:48.840 And so now they say, well, we have to react to that.

00:14:55.420 And so they're complaining about it and professors are getting dismissed

00:14:59.160 because they're asking students to take positions that is not comfortable for them.

00:15:08.220 You know, in law school, you had to take the defense, the plaintiff, both sides.

00:15:12.780 And so they put trigger warnings on everything.

00:15:15.440 Trigger warnings are a myth.

00:15:17.760 They don't work.

00:15:19.100 Trigger warnings create the anxiety they're intended to avoid.

00:15:23.680 The research is clear on that.

00:15:26.140 But yet there are trigger, something like 60, 70% of the universities use trigger warnings.

00:15:30.680 Look, and in fact, I'd go even further and say the purpose of education is to trigger you.

00:15:38.660 The purpose of education is have you encounter uncomfortable views,

00:15:43.900 uncomfortable positions, challenge your assumptions.

00:15:46.780 For a number of years, I used to teach at University of Texas Law School.

00:15:50.540 And I taught a class as an adjunct professor on Supreme Court litigation.

00:15:55.400 And I would have my students, I would pick seven of the biggest cases before the Supreme Court that term.

00:16:01.280 And they were real cases.

00:16:02.200 And I would have the students brief the cases and argue the cases.

00:16:07.100 And the students, every student would get to argue two cases.

00:16:10.580 And the remainder of the cases, they would sit as Supreme Court justices.

00:16:13.820 And they would ask the questions.

00:16:14.980 And we'd do it exactly like the real argument, same time period.

00:16:18.500 And it was a two-hour seminar once a week.

00:16:21.120 And so the first hour would be the argument.

00:16:23.440 The second hour, the nine justices would retire to conference.

00:16:26.820 And they would discuss the case.

00:16:28.780 And you were required to discuss the case in the persona of your justice.

00:16:32.780 So you might be Clarence Thomas.

00:16:34.320 You might be Ruth Bader Ginsburg.

00:16:36.520 And you were required to discuss the case and decide the case consistent with the jurisprudence

00:16:43.360 of the justice that you'd been assigned.

00:16:45.420 And then each student was required to write an opinion.

00:16:47.580 And I got to tell you, I think some of the best teaching moments is I would assign the cases

00:16:54.400 and I would assign them randomly.

00:16:55.980 I'd actually just use letters and randomly assign the cases and I'd assign the sides.

00:17:00.700 And we had a number of students who ended up being assigned positions they hated.

00:17:06.320 I remember one student who did very well in the class, was a West Point graduate, had been

00:17:12.200 an Army Ranger.

00:17:12.980 And he was assigned to represent a terrorist at Gitmo challenging his detention.

00:17:19.440 He didn't like that at all.

00:17:21.120 But he did a terrific job.

00:17:23.300 I remember another student, a very liberal woman, was assigned to argue the case of pro-life 1.00

00:17:31.580 protesters, which was a view she really didn't like.

00:17:36.440 And I thought teaching the class, those were more valuable than if I had switched their

00:17:42.700 positions and let them argue the position they agreed with, they would have learned less

00:17:46.640 from it.

00:17:47.500 And now you have universities that seem to be behaving saying, our job is to prevent you

00:17:54.140 from encountering anything you disagree with and surround you only...

00:17:59.700 That triggers you.

00:18:00.600 That triggers you.

00:18:01.220 Yeah, that triggers you.

00:18:02.220 Makes you feel uncomfortable.

00:18:03.100 And that their job is to enforce an orthodoxy.

00:18:06.380 You must agree with what we're saying.

00:18:08.240 Yeah, well, that's why they're booing and not letting speakers that are invited to universities

00:18:16.840 speak.

00:18:17.700 I call it the heckler's veto.

00:18:19.240 Yep.

00:18:20.160 The heckler's veto.

00:18:21.340 Well, and as you know, the Supreme Court does too.

00:18:23.100 That's the phrase the Supreme Court's used.

00:18:25.200 And you can't learn if you're just preaching to the choir all the time, which is why I say

00:18:31.820 I want both sides to come on and let people hear and make up their own mind.

00:18:36.980 And so you said, what do we do about this?

00:18:39.840 We've got to awaken the masses to say, look, you've got to speak up about this.

00:18:47.920 You've got to find your voice and talk about this.

00:18:51.020 You know, I said earlier, the reason that these small groups of activists, this tyranny

00:18:59.360 of the fringe is so efficient is because they identify an enemy and go after that enemy.

00:19:07.540 And the silent majority doesn't have an enemy like that.

00:19:11.840 They don't have a rally to attend because what they're trying to do is raise their family

00:19:17.020 with love and care and concern and nurture them to get to the next level of life.

00:19:24.460 That's what we're supposed to do as parents is prepare our children for the next level of

00:19:28.680 life.

00:19:29.360 I want to ask you a question.

00:19:30.440 You've said it twice, maybe three times a night.

00:19:33.340 The fear you have of these algorithms, they're targeting kids.

00:19:36.880 Parents have so much peer pressure now and kids have gotten really good at saying, well,

00:19:41.760 so-and-so has it.

00:19:42.620 Well, they've got a smartphone.

00:19:43.700 Well, they're online.

00:19:44.380 They're on TikTok.

00:19:45.560 They're on Instagram.

00:19:46.620 They're on Twitter.

00:19:47.300 They're on Facebook.

00:19:48.460 What advice do you have to parents about the appropriate age to give them a tool that can

00:19:53.640 also destroy their life, which is a cell phone, and allow them on social media?

00:19:57.840 45.

00:19:58.160 I think it's a great number.

00:20:01.920 My three boys are getting flip phones, maybe.

00:20:05.280 Just wait until all their classmates have them.

00:20:07.880 It's easy to say at the ages your kids are.

00:20:10.760 Wait until they get in junior high and high school, and they're the only kid, and they're

00:20:14.980 facing complete ostracization because all of the discussion of their classmates is through

00:20:21.460 these evil black hole devices we put in our kids' hands.

00:20:25.480 You know, here's the thing.

00:20:27.200 There are arguments on both sides.

00:20:29.700 It's good for the child to have a device where you can reach them at any time.

00:20:35.300 You can track them at any time.

00:20:36.860 You can put all of these parental controls on there.

00:20:41.440 They're so far ahead of us that they can...

00:20:47.120 Don't laugh at us.

00:20:47.980 They have workarounds, and if you don't give them the devices, they're going to be on their

00:20:54.040 friends' devices.

00:20:55.960 The better thing you can do...

00:20:57.240 Phil, I've got to tell you a story.

00:20:59.040 So our daughter got grounded, and we took her phone away.

00:21:04.700 She was grounded for a month.

00:21:05.940 It was pretty serious grounding.

00:21:07.820 And we'd taken her phone away.

00:21:09.740 A couple of weeks go by, and then Heidi gets an email from the phone company.

00:21:14.020 It was kind of a curious email.

00:21:16.100 And we discovered that before she handed her phone over, she had gone into the phone and

00:21:22.100 taken out the SIM card.

00:21:23.500 Of course.

00:21:24.200 And she got a burner phone from a friend and put it in the phone.

00:21:27.920 And what was amazing is she said, she said, well, you said you were taking my phone away.

00:21:32.720 You didn't say you were taking my SIM card away.

00:21:35.200 And it was, you know, she's got a fabulous mind, and it was a great argument.

00:21:39.000 But you're right.

00:21:40.040 Our kids can run circles around us on technology.

00:21:44.200 You know, I say this.

00:21:47.160 I always tell people that you should talk to your children about things that don't matter.

00:21:51.640 And they said, well, what do you mean by that?

00:21:55.160 And you watch these medical shows on TV, and what's one of the first things they say when

00:22:01.900 you roll somebody into the ER?

00:22:04.180 They say, start an IV with ringer's lactate.

00:22:07.220 Does anybody ever know what that is?

00:22:09.720 I have no idea.

00:22:10.560 What is that?

00:22:10.920 No, it's water.

00:22:11.560 And it's saline.

00:22:14.220 It's an inert substance.

00:22:15.700 And why do they do it?

00:22:17.020 They're getting a vein open.

00:22:18.760 So when they figure out what they do need, the vein is open, and all they have to do is

00:22:24.360 plug something into it.

00:22:26.560 That's why I say talk to kids about things that don't matter.

00:22:30.580 Because when it comes time to talk about something that does matter, you got that vein open.

00:22:38.860 And if you're talking to them about something that really matters, and it's the first time

00:22:42.900 you've ever tried to have a conversation with them, it's going to feel really awkward.

00:22:48.480 But if you've been talking to them about their video game, or shooting baskets with them,

00:22:52.680 about getting a dog, about who they're dating, about this, about that, just about regular

00:22:58.000 things, but there's a dialogue that's going on, and then it comes time where you have

00:23:02.700 to talk to them about something that really matters, it's not like you're on your first

00:23:08.060 date.

00:23:09.400 You know, you've got this dialogue going, and when you roll into something that really

00:23:13.200 matters, it's open.

00:23:15.540 It doesn't feel so awkward.

00:23:17.920 And when you start talking about the internet and the phone, every time I do a show about

00:23:24.560 these predators or these algorithms and how a significant percentage of young girls get

00:23:34.040 into Instagram or whatever, and so they start getting depressed, I take all of that and send

00:23:40.700 it to my granddaughter and say, you know, read this.

00:23:43.760 Let's talk about this.

00:23:45.640 And she becomes aware of it and goes, you know, wow, I don't know.

00:23:49.460 And, you know, just before we walked in here, I was on the cameras, and she's over having 1.00

00:23:55.500 a party, a swim party with all the adults there.

00:23:59.320 She's not sitting at home.

00:24:01.320 And that's what's happening right now with young people.

00:24:05.180 They're watching people live their lives instead of living their own lives.

00:24:10.660 And the lives they're watching being lived are fantasies.

00:24:15.160 They're not real lives.

00:24:16.180 It's only the good, not the bad.

00:24:16.880 It's not even the good.

00:24:19.280 It's fictional good.

00:24:21.220 I've had influencers on the show who say they get all dressed up and say, yeah, they're

00:24:26.080 going to this big event, this big party.

00:24:28.320 They're going to the NBA All-Star Game.

00:24:30.100 They're going this, going that.

00:24:32.100 And as soon as they do the shoot, they turn it off, put their sweats on, and go sit down

00:24:37.120 and watch TV or sit down and watch whatever.

00:24:40.760 That's not their real lives.

00:24:42.420 And people compare themselves to these fictional lives, and they get depressed because they 0.98

00:24:48.120 say, I'm a loser.

00:24:49.060 I'm not doing any of that stuff. 0.97

00:24:51.400 I'm not going.

00:24:52.620 There's a, there, this is an amazing thing.

00:24:56.300 I actually had them on.

00:24:58.320 There is a false fuselage to a private jet.

00:25:04.140 It's in LA now.

00:25:05.400 It was in San Francisco.

00:25:06.400 It's just in a room.

00:25:08.260 It's a seat with a window.

00:25:11.920 They rent by 15 minutes for influencers to come on.

00:25:18.320 They'll come there with like 10 changes of clothes.

00:25:21.040 You can't make that up, can you?

00:25:22.160 Like summer, Christmas, all this stuff.

00:25:24.740 They sit down and do all these photo shoots so they can post them throughout the year.

00:25:28.880 Like they're off to Cabo.

00:25:30.780 You know, they're off to Aspen for skiing.

00:25:32.980 They're off to this.

00:25:33.700 They don't go anywhere.

00:25:34.720 They're going and sitting in a box in a warehouse.

00:25:38.200 And paying to do it.

00:25:39.220 That's hysterical.

00:25:40.220 They used to do it with a toilet seat that looked like it was a window on a table.

00:25:44.860 Now they actually have one they go sit in.

00:25:47.240 It's just, it's just in a room.

00:25:49.480 Well, you know, capitalism is incredible.

00:25:51.100 Oh, isn't it though?

00:25:52.640 All right, so let me ask you, you're in Hollywood. 1.00

00:25:55.540 Hollywood, at least, I think they're nuts. 0.97

00:25:57.620 I'm a Texas resident. 0.99

00:25:58.800 I know you are.

00:25:59.780 So don't be saying I'm in Hollywood.

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00:26:28.520 Listen to the Honest Talk podcast on iHeartRadio or wherever you listen to your podcasts.

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00:26:48.160 Did you know that some of the big mobile companies are massive donors to Planned Parenthood?

00:26:52.120 Did you know they're actually fighting against your values?

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00:28:18.180 You are a resident of the great state of Texas.

00:28:22.440 You live in Dallas.

00:28:23.580 Yes, I do.

00:28:24.200 We are proud you're a Texan.

00:28:26.580 But how have you not been canceled?

00:28:28.960 I mean, you've dared say things you're not supposed to say,

00:28:33.180 and yet you work in Hollywood, and you're still standing.

00:28:37.500 What has the reaction been to you?

00:28:39.800 What has the pushback been to you, and how have you survived?

00:28:42.140 I think the truth is I've been really consistent in owning the debate lane.

00:28:52.780 I give both sides an opportunity to talk about their position and let people make up their own minds.

00:29:03.820 And I've now seen that there's too much traction being gained,

00:29:12.600 and somebody needs to stand up and give this a voice.

00:29:16.920 And like I said in the beginning, I'll sit around and say, you know,

00:29:20.960 the media this, the media that, the media this, the media that.

00:29:24.960 And Robin said to me, I guess it was about a year and a half ago,

00:29:29.260 we were sitting in the kitchen.

00:29:30.120 And she said, you know, you are the media.

00:29:36.160 You're bitching about the media.

00:29:37.740 You are the media.

00:29:38.580 Why aren't you doing something about it?

00:29:43.820 And as usual, she was right.

00:29:47.360 Would we ever see, and it seems that you're, and I say this as a sincere compliment,

00:29:52.780 the fourth quarter of your career,

00:29:55.140 and it seems that you're now thinking about where we are as a country, your legacy.

00:29:58.400 Would we ever see Dr. Phil's name on a ballot?

00:30:00.740 Is that something that you've ever even thought of?

00:30:04.680 No.

00:30:06.320 I'll tell you why.

00:30:09.460 I think I can have more of an impact doing what I'm doing the way I'm doing it now

00:30:18.160 than if I went into politics.

00:30:22.080 First off, I don't think I know enough about it.

00:30:25.480 And I think you've got to know where your strengths are and your weaknesses are.

00:30:30.980 I mean, Senator Cruz here, constitutional law expert, he's immersed himself in this.

00:30:39.400 I could spend 20 years and not be where he was on day one.

00:30:43.500 I get that.

00:30:44.620 But he is really good at what he does.

00:30:49.180 And I'm in my lane, and he's in his lane.

00:30:52.860 I would rather work with him in his lane from my lane than try to get in his lane.

00:30:58.520 So let me ask you a different question.

00:31:01.220 You may remember the movie Mel Gibson was in, What Women Want.

00:31:05.400 A very substantial percentage of your viewers are women across America who tune in to you

00:31:12.160 and listen and are very interested in what you have to say.

00:31:14.700 So I guess my question would be the title of the movie.

00:31:17.380 What do women want? 1.00

00:31:18.840 What resonates, and Heidi's laughing in the audience, I'm seeking counseling.

00:31:25.400 See, my dear?

00:31:26.240 I'm actually getting advice.

00:31:27.900 From the best.

00:31:28.840 This means a man's really working on this.

00:31:31.120 You're asking me what women. 1.00

00:31:32.500 Did somebody write stupid on my forehead? 1.00

00:31:39.160 Well, Robin and I just celebrated our 47th anniversary last week. 1.00

00:31:44.640 Congratulations.

00:31:45.420 Congratulations.

00:31:46.160 Yeah.

00:31:46.600 We've been together 50 years, married 47.

00:31:51.100 And I've learned this.

00:31:54.240 When she says what, it does not mean she did not hear what I said.

00:32:01.120 It means she's given me a chance to change what I said.

00:32:08.200 If you're taking notes in the audience or listening to this show, this is when you write that down.

00:32:13.240 Yes.

00:32:14.360 That is something to write down.

00:32:18.420 So what I know about what women want, I haven't a clue. 1.00

00:32:23.740 I know this.

00:32:28.360 It is changing.

00:32:31.400 And I did a show with women talking about how their role is changing in this day and time.

00:32:41.760 And they were very outspoken about this.

00:32:47.820 And I think women are people. 1.00

00:32:53.140 And I think they want to be heard.

00:32:55.500 I think they want to be treated with dignity and respect.

00:32:58.020 I think they want to have an opportunity to be acknowledged for the contributions they make

00:33:07.580 and the things that they do.

00:33:10.540 And I think it is changing.

00:33:13.860 But like I said, this country is not perfect.

00:33:17.300 And we're making progress.

00:33:19.100 Yes, but it needs to change.

00:33:21.380 So let me ask a follow-up to that.

00:33:23.760 This podcast, we talk about politics a lot and policy a lot.

00:33:27.920 If you look at politics right now, in elections nationally, Republicans are typically winning

00:33:36.500 married men, single men, and married women.

00:33:43.640 But right now in elections, Democrats are winning single women by huge margins. 0.99

00:33:50.780 You know, I think the difference, one of the differences I see between the messaging between Democrats and Republicans

00:33:57.760 is I think Democrats do a better job of messaging about the feeling parts of the process than Republicans do.

00:34:10.860 Yeah, unquestionably.

00:34:12.320 I think Republicans do a real good job about messaging objectives and bottom lines

00:34:19.840 and quantifying those objectives in setting measurable outcomes.

00:34:28.960 And that's really important.

00:34:31.380 And one of the things that's interesting is that getting married is strongly correlated with more conservative voting patterns.

00:34:40.600 And being single is inversely correlated.

00:34:46.520 Now, some of that may just be a factor of age, that young people historically,

00:34:52.760 Winston Churchill famously said, if you're 20 and not a liberal, you have no heart.

00:34:57.700 And if you're 40 and not a conservative, you have no brain.

00:35:01.160 That's been true for a long time, that young people skew left. 0.54

00:35:05.240 And as they get older, they tend to get more conservative.

00:35:07.400 So that's a factor.

00:35:08.680 But do you see something in the divide between single women and married women 0.99

00:35:13.040 that would produce a really significant delta in their voting patterns?

00:35:19.180 Well, I do in that, as I've said, I think family in America is under attack.

00:35:23.660 And I think when you become part of a family,

00:35:26.640 your values shift dramatically because now you're responsible for somebody other than yourself.

00:35:38.020 You're responsible for your home.

00:35:40.820 And we've seen marriage on the decline.

00:35:44.360 People are getting married later in life now.

00:35:47.380 Marriage is down now compared to what it was a generation ago.

00:35:51.940 We've seen church membership drop below the 50% level for the first time ever.

00:35:58.600 And one reason for that is I think we've seen our birth rate drop now to 1.6.

00:36:07.040 And it takes 2.1 to sustain this society right now.

00:36:12.880 And it's dropped now to around 1.6.

00:36:16.860 And most people, when they have a child, they want to go to church

00:36:22.240 and have the child christened or baptized or whatever.

00:36:26.400 So if you're having fewer marriages and fewer children,

00:36:28.940 then you have fewer families that go to church to start with and begin that tradition.

00:36:35.240 I think that's all tied together.

00:36:37.580 Now, do you have any theories on why fewer people are getting married?

00:36:41.540 I do.

00:36:41.760 Or having fewer children, fewer people are going to church?

00:36:44.180 I do.

00:36:44.620 It's part of this whole theory I have about family being under attack.

00:36:50.860 It's like in 2008, 2009, it's like I have this image of huge airplanes

00:36:57.100 flying over the United States and dropping smartphones on everybody.

00:37:01.000 And that's when people started watching people live their lives instead of living their own.

00:37:07.040 They started dating later.

00:37:08.560 They started getting their driver's license later.

00:37:11.240 They have fewer friends.

00:37:12.740 They stopped socializing.

00:37:15.100 They started social development much later and much less efficiently

00:37:20.400 because they're living virtual lives instead of real lives.

00:37:24.200 So social development was really arrested at that time.

00:37:27.940 And if you go back and look at it, you see in 2008, 2009, that began to disrupt the social development in America.

00:37:40.200 It's an unintended consequence of carrying a computer with a visual screen in your hand.

00:37:47.320 And it's just gone up dramatically.

00:37:49.680 And that's where the social platform started launching and it took the place of having real friends.

00:37:55.580 You say, oh, I've got, you know, I've got 300 friends.

00:37:59.940 No, you don't.

00:38:01.060 You have 300 followers.

00:38:03.100 You don't know these people.

00:38:04.740 I have these people that come on and say they're engaged.

00:38:11.720 What do you mean you're engaged?

00:38:13.260 You've never met this person.

00:38:16.360 You've been messaging back and forth for two years to somebody,

00:38:21.080 and it turns out to be somebody in a Nigerian workroom that you've been sending money for two years.

00:38:28.200 That's not a relationship, but people are confusing followers and cliques for real relationships.

00:38:39.280 And sometimes they fall in love with the fantasy,

00:38:42.240 not even really caring whether it's a real person on the other end.

00:38:48.480 They fall in love with the fantasy.

00:38:49.760 So I think we've got to really encourage our kids to, you know, get off the screens and get out onto the playground

00:38:58.560 and get out into the go-to-the-school dances.

00:39:02.760 You ask these young people today how many friends they have,

00:39:06.060 you would be stunned at how few it is compared to what it was a generation ago.

00:39:11.400 For everybody that's watching, listening to this, you also have a podcast as well and a book coming out.

00:39:16.860 Quickly, as we wrap up this, tell everybody where all they can find all this.

00:39:21.440 Well, thank you for asking.

00:39:23.640 There are going to be press releases and information coming out on that very soon.

00:39:29.100 And it's not a maybe thing.

00:39:33.060 We're building the broadcast center right now.

00:39:36.400 I'm leaving here now, headed to Texas, and we're designing so many of the things.

00:39:43.120 The news department has built.

00:39:44.440 My studio is under construction right now in a huge broadcast center.

00:39:49.840 And most of my senior people from Dr. Phil 1.0 are packing up the truck and moving out of Beverly,

00:40:00.720 coming to Texas, and buying homes in Fort Worth, Keller, Dallas, Argyle, all around.

00:40:09.000 Did you tell them we have cement ponds?

00:40:10.900 I do.

00:40:11.460 And I told them how great it was and how values were great.

00:40:19.040 But very exciting.

00:40:21.040 And like I say, in late January, first week of February, we're going to be launching.

00:40:27.420 That's when the book's going to be landing.

00:40:29.060 And I am more excited about this than I was when we launched Dr. Phil to begin with.

00:40:34.840 I'm very excited, and I hope people listening are saying, you know...

00:40:39.800 Does the network have a name yet?

00:40:42.080 It does, but we haven't released it.

00:40:43.780 Okay.

00:40:44.160 One of the questions from the audience, Dr. Phil, was a question of what type of shows,

00:40:48.880 what type of hosts, what type of roles is it going to be,

00:40:50.960 and how is it going to be different than what you've done before?

00:40:53.160 Well, I think that one of the things that I bring to the process that is unique to my particular brand or approach

00:41:08.380 is that I'm a journalist and a mental health professional at the same time.

00:41:13.740 And what I've always done is talk to real people with real problems and try to come up with real solutions.

00:41:22.580 And I intend to stay with that format in the new show.

00:41:30.140 And what I mean by that is even though we're going to be talking about different things,

00:41:34.680 like social issues, whether it's homelessness or whether it's the problems we're having with the internet

00:41:43.820 or it's this issue about the government paying people not to work instead of to work

00:41:51.020 or whatever the issue might be.

00:41:55.500 I'm going to approach that by telling those stories and dealing with those issues

00:42:02.800 through the eyes of the people that are impacted by them.

00:42:07.320 I think one of the best examples is, you know, we talked about buying these counterfeit pills on the internet,

00:42:16.640 40% of which will kill you.

00:42:20.660 Think about that.

00:42:22.640 You've got to really stop to wrap your head around that.

00:42:26.060 Four out of 10 pills you buy, that you can buy whether you're 12 or 13 or 14,

00:42:34.480 four out of 10 of those will kill you.

00:42:38.500 This fentanyl is being manufactured in China,

00:42:42.280 sent to the Sinaloa cartel in Mexico.

00:42:46.900 They raided a pill factory just south of the border near San Diego

00:42:52.140 that was stamping out 70 million pills a month.

00:42:58.780 One lab, 70 million pills a month.

00:43:03.700 Not all of them are coming here, but a lot of them are coming to America.

00:43:09.000 And when I talk about that, I don't want to have a bunch of talking head experts up there.

00:43:14.240 I had four sets of parents who had non-drug-addicted children

00:43:21.160 that ordered pills during finals of college to stay awake or to do this or to do that,

00:43:29.780 and they found them dead the next morning.

00:43:33.100 And credit card receipts where they ordered one pill,

00:43:36.720 one pill from a social media platform and were dead the next morning.

00:43:41.700 And I approached that by telling this story through the eyes of the parents

00:43:48.080 who went up and found their child dead.

00:43:51.100 And that's how we got into that issue.

00:43:53.940 Real people, real problems.

00:43:57.700 And we did have the DEA there.

00:43:59.960 We did have representatives there that were involved in every aspect of the story.

00:44:06.680 But still, I approached it through the angst of these parents

00:44:12.600 that lost these precious young people.

00:44:16.080 And that's how I intend to continue to do this,

00:44:18.320 to talk about this not with a bunch of talking head experts

00:44:21.960 like you see on the 24-hour cable news networks,

00:44:25.620 but instead by dealing with real people that are impacted by these stories.

00:44:31.700 And as you know, the numbers are staggering.

00:44:34.940 Last year, more than 100,000 Americans died of drug overdoses.

00:44:39.800 Roughly 70% of that is Chinese fentanyl coming across our southern border.

00:44:44.920 That's the highest in the history of our country.

00:44:47.620 To put it in perspective, 100,000 people dying

00:44:51.220 is almost double the number of Americans who died in the entire Vietnam War.

00:44:57.240 And that was last year.

00:44:59.940 And even the word overdose is the wrong word.

00:45:03.360 It's poisoning.

00:45:04.000 It's poisoning.

00:45:05.200 And I've visited with a lot of these parents who've lost their kids.

00:45:09.740 And you're right.

00:45:10.500 It's not a heroin addict on the street who's a junkie.

00:45:14.760 It's a teenager.

00:45:16.340 It's a college kid who's at a party.

00:45:19.440 And someone says, here, try one Xanax.

00:45:21.600 Try one Adderall. 0.83

00:45:22.560 And they take it and just one, the wrong one, can kill them.

00:45:29.080 You know, I had a DEA agent do an illustration that I think is really powerful.

00:45:33.160 He had several of us take a packet of sweet and low.

00:45:36.540 And he said, tear this open.

00:45:38.060 Empty all the sweet and low out of the packet.

00:45:39.980 And so we all did that.

00:45:41.420 He said, OK, now take your pinky and just stick it in the packet and pull it out.

00:45:45.200 And when you do that, you have a couple of little tiny grains on your fingertip. 0.96

00:45:49.560 And he said, that is enough fentanyl to kill you.

00:45:53.720 And I'll tell you, I sat down with both our daughters.

00:45:56.000 And I gave them packets of sweet and low and had them do that.

00:46:00.420 But as a parent, it's terrifying because you hope the message sticks. 0.97

00:46:05.800 And the problem is teenagers sometimes do dumb things. 0.97

00:46:10.680 And when the dumb things can kill you, that's really terrifying. 0.86

00:46:15.240 Yeah, and now there's something called carfentanil, which is even more powerful than fentanyl. 0.82

00:46:22.560 And people say, well, why would a drug dealer want to kill their client, their customers?

00:46:27.960 They don't want to kill them.

00:46:29.680 It's just so addictive that if they'll take it and not die, they just are immediately addicted.

00:46:37.480 And they come back.

00:46:38.880 But they're mixing this stuff up in a bathtub with a Bodor. 1.00

00:46:42.740 Yeah.

00:46:42.860 And this isn't a drug.

00:46:45.220 It's not high tech.

00:46:46.140 No.

00:46:46.980 And they don't know how much gets in this one or that one.

00:46:50.480 And so, but to answer your question, that's how I'm going to do it.

00:46:55.360 And I'm going to do it because that's how my audience, the people that I've built a relationship with over 21 years,

00:47:03.920 that's how they're used to getting the information from people they can relate to.

00:47:09.860 And what they do, every guest I have on is a teaching tool.

00:47:14.980 And, you know, people don't know because I have kind of a, I guess, a shoot from the hip style of delivery.

00:47:23.200 But I get like a 250-page notebook for every single show we do.

00:47:29.580 And we get a cross-sectional history, a medical history, a longitudinal history.

00:47:34.100 We have a research section.

00:47:35.500 And I have a 15-member Blue Ribbon Advisory Board with the top minds in medicine, psychology, psychiatry, nursing, theology,

00:47:46.000 every area from the top learning centers in the country, a lot of them peer-reviewed journal editors.

00:47:53.200 And if I have a really complex case, I can send it to them and we talk about it.

00:47:58.700 And we stick with evidence-based therapies and give them cutting-edge information

00:48:04.180 because there's an 18-month lag between submitting findings and it getting out in a peer-reviewed journal.

00:48:11.320 And I'm able to get it immediately.

00:48:14.540 And we really try and deliver the absolute best available information to people about these key issues.

00:48:23.200 You know, every day in understandable terms.

00:48:26.860 And we're going to stay with that format going forward.

00:48:29.440 Dr. Phil, thank you so much for being with us, being a part of this.

00:48:32.420 The audience, you guys give Dr. Phil a big round of applause as well.

00:48:37.280 Thank you for having me.

00:48:38.480 You asked fascinating and in-depth questions.

00:48:40.860 Thank you so much.

00:48:41.920 Don't forget, download Dr. Phil's podcast.

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