Verdict with Ted Cruz - April 02, 2025


Election Day： 3 Wins & a Loss plus Cruz's Filibuster Record Broken


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Length

37 minutes

Words per Minute

175.92184

Word Count

6,657

Sentence Count

233

Misogynist Sentences

4

Hate Speech Sentences

3


Summary


Transcript

00:00:00.000 This is an iHeart Podcast.
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00:00:05.380 Welcome. It is Verdict with Senator Ted Cruz.
00:00:07.560 Ben Ferguson with you as always.
00:00:09.300 Senator, it was Election Day in some parts of America,
00:00:13.800 but they were very significant,
00:00:15.840 especially when it comes to controlling the House
00:00:18.400 and giving Trump a little bit of breathing room.
00:00:20.820 Well, we had Election Day in Florida and Wisconsin.
00:00:23.880 A ton of money was spent on it.
00:00:25.740 At the end of the day, the results were three wins and a loss.
00:00:29.260 We'll break it down.
00:00:30.660 We'll talk about exactly what happened,
00:00:32.600 the money that was spent, and what the consequences are.
00:00:35.500 Secondly, we have now seen, as of yesterday,
00:00:40.340 the longest filibuster in Senate history.
00:00:43.660 And it was done by Cory Booker, Democrat from New Jersey,
00:00:47.920 who spoke for 25 hours and frustratingly, infuriatingly,
00:00:54.480 beat the record of yours truly at over 21 hours.
00:01:00.620 So we're going to break that down as well,
00:01:02.180 and we're going to compare what Cory Booker was filibustering over
00:01:05.940 to what I filibustered over in 2013.
00:01:09.440 We'll discuss that as well.
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00:03:06.440 Senator, before we start with all the politics,
00:03:09.180 I got a great text message from someone today,
00:03:12.600 and it said,
00:03:13.560 what the hell did Ted Cruz do to his beard?
00:03:16.560 They didn't remember that it was April Fool's Day,
00:03:20.680 and you had a brilliant tweet that you put out with some nice chops,
00:03:26.480 like you'd sawed off a lot of your beard.
00:03:29.280 Well, I did.
00:03:30.120 I had some fun with April Fool's,
00:03:32.940 and so I tweeted today a very simple tweet that said,
00:03:39.460 Washington, D.C. can be a hairy place,
00:03:42.180 but this morning's committee hearing reminded me just how important it is to cut waste,
00:03:47.000 shave down our debt,
00:03:48.480 and trim down the size of our government.
00:03:50.680 And then it was a picture of my face,
00:03:53.140 photoshopped,
00:03:54.280 so the beard was magically gone,
00:03:56.280 and instead I had a big old honking El Chapo mustache.
00:04:00.600 And I gotta say,
00:04:01.920 look, look, look,
00:04:02.560 as a Cuban-American,
00:04:03.360 I was pretty proud of the El Chapo mustache.
00:04:05.740 I mean, it kind of...
00:04:06.700 It was believable.
00:04:08.140 It was believable,
00:04:08.920 because my phone blew up.
00:04:10.200 People were saying,
00:04:10.660 did he do this?
00:04:11.540 When did he do this?
00:04:12.440 Why did he lose a bet?
00:04:14.180 What happened?
00:04:14.880 Did he lose his bracket?
00:04:15.720 And I just kept responding with April 1.
00:04:19.940 April 1.
00:04:21.040 Like, get there faster, guys.
00:04:23.600 Everybody apparently thought your bracket as a basketball guy sucked,
00:04:26.680 and it cost you your beard.
00:04:28.700 It was...
00:04:29.540 You know, I don't know.
00:04:31.260 I just might do it tomorrow, though.
00:04:32.860 You never know.
00:04:34.120 But it reminds me of when I first grew the beard,
00:04:38.380 which was back, I think, 2018.
00:04:40.340 You know, I grew the beard, actually,
00:04:43.740 just for the hell of it.
00:04:44.760 It was over Thanksgiving.
00:04:46.900 And on the holidays, I would never shave.
00:04:48.880 That's something I, for years, would never do.
00:04:50.740 And I just came back from Thanksgiving,
00:04:52.280 and Monday morning came into work in the Senate
00:04:55.340 and just hadn't shaved.
00:04:57.440 And actually, my top political guy,
00:05:00.460 who you know very well,
00:05:02.400 sent me this email that said,
00:05:05.760 worst decision ever.
00:05:08.700 And that really pissed me off.
00:05:09.960 I'm like, all right, screw you.
00:05:10.940 I'm going to keep it.
00:05:12.520 And I have, although I will say it was...
00:05:17.640 You and my friend, Betty Johnson,
00:05:19.180 came and wanted to record a video.
00:05:22.240 I asked if I would do an instructional video
00:05:24.960 on how to grow a beard.
00:05:26.540 I remember this.
00:05:27.980 Yeah.
00:05:28.580 And I said, sure.
00:05:29.680 I said, come on in.
00:05:30.560 Come in into my office.
00:05:31.540 I sat at my desk.
00:05:32.320 I said, all right, start recording.
00:05:34.460 And I said, everyone,
00:05:36.360 this is an instructional video
00:05:38.060 on how to grow a beard.
00:05:40.880 And I reached in a drawer of my desk,
00:05:43.200 and I pulled out a razor.
00:05:44.460 And I said, this is a razor.
00:05:47.860 Don't use it.
00:05:49.360 And that was the end of the video.
00:05:50.520 Yeah, that was that simple.
00:05:52.540 Well, I got in on the action
00:05:53.720 because people laugh.
00:05:55.180 They're like, how often do you
00:05:56.620 and Senator Cruz talk?
00:05:57.860 And I'm like, during the day,
00:05:58.660 he's pretty busy.
00:06:00.040 We'll exchange a text here and there.
00:06:01.540 But there's a long delay
00:06:02.980 when you're working.
00:06:04.480 And so someone sent me,
00:06:06.480 you know, your tweet.
00:06:07.380 I'm laughing.
00:06:08.120 I'm looking at it.
00:06:08.960 And then I said, all right,
00:06:09.700 I got to Photoshop this.
00:06:10.960 So we took your beard,
00:06:12.980 threw it on my new headshot,
00:06:14.800 and then I put out a tweet
00:06:16.160 that says, I'll keep the salt
00:06:17.360 and pepper alive for you.
00:06:19.160 That also went viral.
00:06:20.780 It was a fun day to mess with people.
00:06:22.560 All right, but let's be clear.
00:06:23.920 You did not take my beard
00:06:25.540 and put it on you.
00:06:27.100 You used AI to put
00:06:29.060 a salt and pepper beard on you
00:06:30.580 because the beard you put
00:06:31.700 had way more salt than pepper.
00:06:34.600 No, no, no, no.
00:06:35.580 Way more salt than pepper.
00:06:38.140 You noticed that
00:06:39.420 because that was my little dig.
00:06:41.120 I was like, is he going to write back
00:06:42.640 that's too much gray?
00:06:44.240 I was kind of wondering
00:06:45.580 what I could get away with there.
00:06:46.940 So I was told,
00:06:48.920 and I'm quoting now,
00:06:50.800 Ferguson, if this is real,
00:06:52.700 shave it off,
00:06:53.520 shave it off right now.
00:06:54.780 You cannot handle the beard.
00:06:56.700 So the people have spoken.
00:06:58.260 I don't think I'm growing a beard
00:06:59.220 anytime soon.
00:07:00.040 That I can promise you.
00:07:01.480 All right.
00:07:01.760 You know what you could carry off
00:07:03.260 though is a soul patch.
00:07:04.480 I'm for a little soul patch
00:07:05.980 on Ben Ferguson.
00:07:07.540 Can you imagine?
00:07:08.860 That and a rat tail.
00:07:09.840 Yeah, that's the end
00:07:10.520 of my TV career.
00:07:11.420 That's for sure.
00:07:12.660 I did, by the way,
00:07:13.720 you remember No Shave November?
00:07:14.920 Do you remember that?
00:07:15.980 I do.
00:07:17.680 Yeah.
00:07:18.040 So when that,
00:07:18.840 gosh, it was,
00:07:19.660 I mean,
00:07:20.000 years ago,
00:07:20.660 right when that thing happened
00:07:21.680 and everybody was doing it,
00:07:22.740 I was like,
00:07:23.060 all right,
00:07:23.280 I'll do it.
00:07:23.800 Fine.
00:07:24.540 So I,
00:07:25.220 at the time I was,
00:07:26.540 I was fighting the commies
00:07:27.580 at CNN
00:07:28.060 and towards the end of November,
00:07:31.260 I got a text.
00:07:32.880 I think it was from Erin Burnett's
00:07:34.660 executive producer
00:07:35.740 and I was supposed to be
00:07:36.840 on her show
00:07:37.380 and they said,
00:07:38.120 we also are inquiring,
00:07:39.860 is the beard gone yet?
00:07:42.360 Question mark.
00:07:43.660 So it,
00:07:44.160 it,
00:07:44.480 it,
00:07:44.780 it,
00:07:45.060 it was pretty patchy.
00:07:46.620 I couldn't sell it.
00:07:47.860 It just didn't work.
00:07:49.040 I'll have to,
00:07:49.920 I'll have to unearth that picture
00:07:51.680 and I'll throw it up on X
00:07:52.720 for people to see,
00:07:53.480 but it was pretty,
00:07:53.940 well look,
00:07:54.600 Ben,
00:07:54.960 once you hit puberty,
00:07:55.960 you'll do just fine
00:07:57.200 on that front.
00:07:59.320 Next time I'm going
00:08:00.300 all white Santa beard
00:08:01.300 when I copy yours,
00:08:02.160 that's going to be
00:08:02.600 my revenge here.
00:08:03.860 All right,
00:08:04.120 so we had election day.
00:08:04.740 Let's talk elections.
00:08:06.580 Election,
00:08:06.940 we had election day
00:08:07.800 in America
00:08:08.380 and there,
00:08:10.060 there's,
00:08:10.580 there's two headlines here.
00:08:12.140 If you watched CNN tonight
00:08:13.900 and I was watching
00:08:14.720 the reaction,
00:08:15.660 they're saying
00:08:16.180 it's a total disaster
00:08:17.320 for Republicans.
00:08:18.940 They spent all this money
00:08:20.040 on the Supreme Court
00:08:21.100 election in Wisconsin.
00:08:23.440 Trump was involved.
00:08:25.000 Musk was involved
00:08:25.900 and this is just
00:08:26.720 a referendum
00:08:27.340 on Donald Trump
00:08:28.240 after he's been
00:08:29.440 in office for 90 days.
00:08:31.360 That,
00:08:31.600 that is their narrative.
00:08:33.380 So you're saying,
00:08:34.580 you're saying CNN
00:08:35.340 doesn't like Trump.
00:08:36.740 Yes,
00:08:37.100 yes,
00:08:37.420 that's exactly right.
00:08:38.380 I really,
00:08:38.740 I had not picked up on that.
00:08:40.220 So that's that,
00:08:40.960 that you're really good
00:08:41.820 at reading between the lines
00:08:43.580 and,
00:08:43.960 and you know,
00:08:44.420 both of their viewers,
00:08:45.400 I think probably picked up
00:08:46.560 on that as well.
00:08:48.080 Yeah,
00:08:48.480 no doubt.
00:08:49.280 The,
00:08:49.600 the,
00:08:49.860 the results tonight
00:08:50.860 were mixed.
00:08:52.060 You and I are recording this
00:08:53.800 it is 1215 in the morning.
00:08:55.300 So,
00:08:55.820 so the results are still coming in
00:08:57.320 and right now
00:08:57.880 there were two congressional seats
00:08:59.620 on the ballot in Florida
00:09:00.780 and,
00:09:01.280 and one was Mike Waltz's seat
00:09:03.100 who is now the national security advisor
00:09:04.920 for President Trump.
00:09:06.220 The other is Matt,
00:09:07.360 Matt Gaetz's seat
00:09:08.380 who stepped down
00:09:09.180 when Trump named him
00:09:10.000 as attorney general
00:09:10.820 and then ultimately
00:09:11.540 withdrew the nomination.
00:09:13.620 And,
00:09:14.220 and both of them
00:09:15.420 were incredibly
00:09:17.420 tightly contested
00:09:18.620 and,
00:09:18.860 and in fact,
00:09:19.840 the Democrats
00:09:20.720 spent like crazy
00:09:22.860 and,
00:09:23.220 and the result,
00:09:23.920 the Republicans won both of them.
00:09:25.320 Now,
00:09:25.680 they were pretty solidly
00:09:26.560 Republican seats,
00:09:27.460 but,
00:09:27.760 but at the end of the day,
00:09:29.260 Jimmy Patronis,
00:09:31.060 the Republican,
00:09:32.300 won with 56.9%
00:09:35.480 to 42.3%.
00:09:38.380 So that was a 15 point victory.
00:09:40.680 And,
00:09:41.240 and Randy Fine,
00:09:42.580 the Republican,
00:09:43.300 won with 56.7%
00:09:45.220 to 42.7%.
00:09:47.700 And,
00:09:47.980 and,
00:09:48.240 and so both of those
00:09:49.520 were,
00:09:49.840 were sizable victories.
00:09:51.280 If you look at Randy Fine,
00:09:53.560 he was literally outspent
00:09:55.680 10 to one.
00:09:57.560 I mean,
00:09:57.820 it was massive.
00:09:59.180 I've been in races
00:10:00.380 where I've been outspent
00:10:01.340 three to one,
00:10:02.220 but 10 to one
00:10:03.280 is a massive
00:10:04.960 funding disadvantage.
00:10:05.980 And,
00:10:06.500 and,
00:10:06.680 and so that victory
00:10:07.780 is really significant.
00:10:08.940 So you look at this
00:10:10.420 and,
00:10:10.660 and let's talk about
00:10:11.680 how important this was
00:10:12.900 for Donald Trump's
00:10:14.900 America's first agenda.
00:10:16.060 there was a,
00:10:17.900 a,
00:10:18.320 a razor thin
00:10:20.040 majority in the house.
00:10:22.020 And this gives a little bit
00:10:23.980 of breathing room now
00:10:25.360 for Donald Trump's agenda
00:10:26.740 to have a chance
00:10:27.560 to make it through.
00:10:28.660 It's also going to help
00:10:30.100 Mike Johnson,
00:10:30.860 I think,
00:10:31.600 significantly
00:10:32.660 not have to capitulate
00:10:34.920 and pander
00:10:35.680 to any Yahoo
00:10:37.020 that wakes up
00:10:37.840 and decides
00:10:38.400 either A,
00:10:39.020 want to be famous
00:10:39.740 or B,
00:10:40.220 want to throw something
00:10:40.980 in with pork
00:10:41.600 or C,
00:10:42.380 just want to be a pain
00:10:43.220 in his A double S.
00:10:44.640 Now,
00:10:45.440 it's,
00:10:46.200 it gives him the ability,
00:10:47.640 I think,
00:10:47.940 to actually be a better speaker.
00:10:49.420 Is that,
00:10:49.780 do you agree with that?
00:10:50.940 Yeah,
00:10:51.140 no,
00:10:51.280 I think that's right.
00:10:52.120 Look,
00:10:52.320 we have had an excruciatingly
00:10:54.660 small majority
00:10:55.680 in the house
00:10:57.200 and,
00:10:57.440 and to be clear,
00:10:58.080 that,
00:10:58.320 that,
00:10:58.460 that is why
00:10:59.560 President Trump
00:11:00.820 withdrew
00:11:01.620 the nomination
00:11:02.980 of Elise Stefanik
00:11:04.040 to be
00:11:04.940 UN ambassador
00:11:06.500 because she had been
00:11:07.940 nominated to be
00:11:08.560 UN ambassador
00:11:09.300 but,
00:11:10.620 if she
00:11:12.060 was confirmed
00:11:13.760 and she resigned
00:11:14.860 there'd be a vacancy
00:11:16.000 and the New York governor,
00:11:17.620 Kathy Hochul,
00:11:18.300 was,
00:11:18.480 was threatening
00:11:18.980 to basically play games
00:11:20.280 and keep the seat vacant
00:11:21.520 for the rest of the year
00:11:23.200 which would,
00:11:23.740 which would have shrunk
00:11:25.040 the majority by one
00:11:26.400 and,
00:11:27.500 and listen,
00:11:28.020 special elections
00:11:28.740 are always dangerous
00:11:29.740 and always risky.
00:11:30.680 Strange outcomes
00:11:31.560 can occur
00:11:32.160 and,
00:11:33.160 and so the President
00:11:34.020 at the end of the day
00:11:34.920 I think
00:11:35.380 quite rightly decided
00:11:37.140 that,
00:11:37.440 that risking
00:11:39.060 the very narrow
00:11:39.940 House majority
00:11:40.760 was,
00:11:41.380 was,
00:11:41.780 was dangerous
00:11:42.360 and,
00:11:42.680 and to Elise's credit
00:11:43.640 I think Elise would have done
00:11:44.620 a terrific job
00:11:45.880 as UN ambassador
00:11:46.780 but,
00:11:47.240 but,
00:11:47.460 but I appreciate her,
00:11:49.060 her putting,
00:11:49.980 putting the interest
00:11:50.680 of the country
00:11:51.220 ahead
00:11:52.140 and,
00:11:52.640 and,
00:11:52.880 and saying she was not
00:11:53.880 going to risk
00:11:54.220 the House majority
00:11:54.980 but,
00:11:56.740 the result
00:11:57.560 as of,
00:11:58.620 as of today
00:11:59.620 is the Republican majority
00:12:01.020 has two more Republicans
00:12:02.360 in the House
00:12:02.880 and that will help,
00:12:03.620 that will give the Speaker
00:12:04.480 some breathing room
00:12:06.020 that,
00:12:06.360 that will,
00:12:06.760 that will help us
00:12:07.700 extend the,
00:12:09.520 the Trump tax cuts
00:12:11.660 that will help us
00:12:12.300 secure the border
00:12:13.060 that will help us win
00:12:14.140 on victory
00:12:15.340 after victory.
00:12:16.100 So that was a very good result
00:12:17.560 and,
00:12:17.840 and Florida
00:12:18.380 had those been losses,
00:12:20.400 had even one of those
00:12:21.300 been losses
00:12:21.880 it would have been,
00:12:22.980 it would have been
00:12:23.700 a serious,
00:12:24.840 serious setback
00:12:26.780 and,
00:12:27.080 and the media
00:12:27.540 would have gone crazy.
00:12:28.520 Well,
00:12:28.960 and that goes back
00:12:29.680 to the money game
00:12:30.340 what you mentioned earlier.
00:12:31.920 Democrats just decided
00:12:33.140 we're going to just spend
00:12:34.180 virtually every dollar
00:12:35.300 we can get our hands on
00:12:36.360 down there,
00:12:37.260 throw Jell-O at a wall,
00:12:38.420 hope that something sticks
00:12:39.680 and maybe we flip
00:12:40.520 one of these seats
00:12:41.160 because,
00:12:41.800 like you said,
00:12:42.400 if that happened
00:12:42.960 it could have been
00:12:43.520 catastrophic for
00:12:44.640 Donald Trump's agenda.
00:12:46.280 Yeah,
00:12:46.500 and,
00:12:46.680 and look,
00:12:47.060 that can make
00:12:48.220 special elections
00:12:50.500 very dangerous
00:12:52.180 because often
00:12:53.540 the party out of power
00:12:54.560 is,
00:12:55.060 is particularly energized,
00:12:56.480 they're angry,
00:12:57.320 their,
00:12:57.540 their,
00:12:57.720 their base is agitated
00:12:59.080 and,
00:12:59.780 and,
00:12:59.900 and so they,
00:13:00.740 they can be willing
00:13:01.660 to pour a whole bunch
00:13:02.740 of money into it
00:13:03.660 and,
00:13:04.660 and,
00:13:04.840 and that is certainly
00:13:05.700 happening.
00:13:06.180 Now,
00:13:06.480 Wisconsin,
00:13:07.660 look,
00:13:08.060 Wisconsin is a much more
00:13:09.600 purple to blue state
00:13:11.080 than Florida.
00:13:12.460 Florida's gotten quite red.
00:13:13.680 Wisconsin,
00:13:14.360 there were,
00:13:14.620 there were two major
00:13:16.260 elections on the ballot
00:13:18.120 and,
00:13:18.560 and,
00:13:18.800 and we split.
00:13:19.500 We won one
00:13:20.100 and we lost one.
00:13:21.660 So the one we won
00:13:22.920 was,
00:13:23.240 was a constitutional amendment
00:13:24.740 to put into the
00:13:25.900 Wisconsin state constitution
00:13:27.440 a,
00:13:28.400 a voter ID requirement,
00:13:30.280 a requirement that you
00:13:30.980 show photo ID to vote.
00:13:32.580 Now,
00:13:33.120 that is existing
00:13:34.060 Wisconsin law,
00:13:35.160 but that,
00:13:35.460 but that's just a statute.
00:13:36.660 In other words,
00:13:37.800 the next legislature
00:13:39.360 could change that,
00:13:40.260 could get rid of voter ID
00:13:41.600 and that remains
00:13:42.420 a major priority
00:13:43.380 for Democrats
00:13:44.040 across,
00:13:44.420 across the country.
00:13:45.560 In fact,
00:13:46.220 in California,
00:13:46.880 they've gone so far
00:13:47.840 as to,
00:13:48.240 to make it illegal
00:13:49.320 to ask for photo ID
00:13:51.540 for voting.
00:13:52.060 So,
00:13:52.360 so they're,
00:13:53.180 they're actively
00:13:53.920 and openly encouraging
00:13:55.300 voter fraud
00:13:57.100 in California
00:13:57.760 by doing so.
00:13:58.740 Well,
00:13:58.920 Wisconsin,
00:13:59.580 the voters had
00:14:00.300 on the ballot
00:14:01.420 should photo ID
00:14:02.220 for voting
00:14:02.820 be in the Wisconsin
00:14:03.860 constitution.
00:14:04.760 And that won overwhelmingly.
00:14:06.440 The vote was 63.2%
00:14:08.980 to 36.8%.
00:14:11.480 So it was a massive,
00:14:12.820 almost a 30 point victory.
00:14:14.720 That's great.
00:14:15.840 That,
00:14:15.960 that,
00:14:16.100 that is a terrific victory
00:14:17.560 for election integrity.
00:14:19.420 Wisconsin is a swing state.
00:14:21.600 And,
00:14:22.260 and so voter fraud
00:14:23.380 is,
00:14:23.640 is,
00:14:23.980 is particularly dangerous
00:14:25.180 in,
00:14:25.540 in,
00:14:25.740 in a swing state
00:14:26.440 like Wisconsin.
00:14:27.080 And so that's
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00:15:00.900 So those are our three
00:15:02.140 big victories.
00:15:03.720 Extremely important,
00:15:05.320 especially like you said
00:15:06.460 on the voter ID.
00:15:07.360 That's going to give a signal
00:15:08.720 to other states,
00:15:09.740 move forward on this.
00:15:10.700 The American people want it.
00:15:12.500 And,
00:15:12.880 and we'll probably see
00:15:13.840 a trend come out of that.
00:15:15.400 That's good news,
00:15:16.360 obviously.
00:15:17.140 So let's talk about
00:15:18.460 the loss.
00:15:19.340 And,
00:15:19.760 and the headline
00:15:20.820 in all the media
00:15:22.060 is liberal judge
00:15:23.240 wins in Wisconsin.
00:15:25.360 That's what they want
00:15:26.320 you to know.
00:15:26.860 They don't want you
00:15:27.340 to know the GOP
00:15:27.940 swept Florida.
00:15:28.740 They don't want you
00:15:29.260 to know that voter ID
00:15:30.940 law became a thing
00:15:31.960 in a swing state.
00:15:33.340 They're all obsessed
00:15:34.580 now with this,
00:15:35.660 quote,
00:15:35.760 liberal judge winning.
00:15:37.200 A lot of money
00:15:37.900 in this race.
00:15:38.760 President was involved.
00:15:39.780 Musk was involved.
00:15:40.560 So they're saying
00:15:41.160 this is a referendum
00:15:41.840 on Donald Trump.
00:15:42.820 I think that's obviously
00:15:44.300 going way too far.
00:15:45.780 This is special election time.
00:15:47.760 Everybody dialed down
00:15:48.700 the crazy.
00:15:49.960 Yeah,
00:15:50.480 now to be clear
00:15:51.440 on the photo ID
00:15:52.340 law in Wisconsin,
00:15:53.560 it wasn't that it
00:15:54.400 became the law
00:15:55.120 because it is current
00:15:55.980 law right now.
00:15:57.040 What happened is
00:15:58.100 it got added
00:15:58.680 to the Constitution.
00:15:59.660 So now it is
00:16:00.400 much,
00:16:01.080 much harder
00:16:01.640 for Democrats
00:16:02.900 to take it away.
00:16:04.400 It's enshrined
00:16:05.280 in the state Constitution
00:16:06.260 and so it would take
00:16:07.660 a constitutional amendment
00:16:08.600 to get rid of it.
00:16:09.340 And so that's
00:16:09.840 a major victory.
00:16:10.820 But the loss,
00:16:11.760 the loss was a real one
00:16:13.320 and it was an election
00:16:14.540 for the Wisconsin
00:16:15.360 Supreme Court.
00:16:16.180 It was election
00:16:17.500 between Susan Crawford
00:16:19.040 who is a liberal Democrat
00:16:20.500 and Brad Schimmel
00:16:22.440 who is a conservative.
00:16:25.080 And the result
00:16:26.180 at the end of the day
00:16:27.200 was that the liberal
00:16:28.960 won 54.4%
00:16:30.900 to 45.6%.
00:16:33.140 So that was
00:16:33.740 a nine point victory.
00:16:35.360 That was a sizable victory.
00:16:38.240 And the result of it
00:16:39.780 is control
00:16:40.520 of the Wisconsin
00:16:41.900 Supreme Court.
00:16:42.840 So the court
00:16:44.280 was in the ballots.
00:16:45.060 This was the swing seat.
00:16:47.180 And I got to tell you
00:16:48.240 the money
00:16:48.980 that was spent
00:16:50.980 in this race.
00:16:51.820 How much do you think
00:16:52.640 was spent
00:16:53.220 in Wisconsin?
00:16:56.100 I'm going to guess
00:16:56.940 tens of millions
00:16:57.720 of dollars
00:16:58.260 knowing how important
00:16:59.100 this was at minimum.
00:17:01.360 Ninety eight
00:17:02.520 million dollars.
00:17:05.020 Ninety eight million dollars
00:17:06.160 on a judicial race
00:17:07.980 in Wisconsin.
00:17:10.340 Yahoo News
00:17:11.220 is reporting
00:17:11.760 that according to
00:17:12.340 the Brennan Center
00:17:13.440 for Justice,
00:17:14.100 more than
00:17:15.160 fifty three
00:17:16.040 point three
00:17:16.840 million dollars
00:17:17.660 was spent
00:17:18.860 by Schimmel
00:17:19.640 and his backers
00:17:20.420 including twelve
00:17:21.140 point two million
00:17:21.900 from Elon Musk's
00:17:23.400 America PAC.
00:17:24.800 And Crawford's
00:17:25.760 campaign
00:17:26.220 and those backing
00:17:26.940 her have spent
00:17:27.860 an estimated
00:17:28.520 forty five point
00:17:30.340 one million dollars.
00:17:31.660 So all told
00:17:32.440 ninety eight million dollars
00:17:34.320 that that that is
00:17:35.380 to the best of my knowledge
00:17:36.600 that in fact
00:17:37.740 if I was going to say
00:17:39.040 that that's the most
00:17:39.780 that's ever been spent
00:17:40.340 on a judicial race
00:17:41.120 but if I read
00:17:41.640 the next sentence
00:17:42.240 on the article
00:17:42.800 it would say
00:17:43.340 the spending
00:17:44.100 has made
00:17:44.440 the Wisconsin race
00:17:45.200 the most expensive
00:17:45.900 U.S. judicial
00:17:46.520 in U.S. judicial history
00:17:48.300 which it clearly is
00:17:49.980 I don't know what second
00:17:51.560 but it ain't even close.
00:17:54.140 That's a massive amount
00:17:55.340 of money
00:17:55.680 and listen
00:17:56.400 this is an unfortunate loss
00:17:58.100 there's going to be
00:17:58.820 some bad rulings
00:18:00.220 in Wisconsin
00:18:00.880 including potentially
00:18:02.080 redistricting rulings
00:18:03.280 that have political
00:18:03.980 consequences
00:18:04.700 in Wisconsin
00:18:06.280 and so it is unfortunate
00:18:08.360 I'm grateful
00:18:08.960 Elon leaned in
00:18:09.820 hard on this
00:18:10.680 but it's worth remembering
00:18:13.520 Wisconsin is a purple state
00:18:15.440 and on election day
00:18:17.380 in 24
00:18:18.640 we had mixed outcomes
00:18:21.340 in Wisconsin
00:18:22.060 Donald Trump won Wisconsin
00:18:23.600 barely
00:18:24.100 but he won
00:18:25.000 but we lost
00:18:26.760 the Senate seat
00:18:27.600 Tammy Baldwin
00:18:28.920 the incumbent Democrat
00:18:30.000 Eric Hovde
00:18:30.600 was challenging
00:18:32.440 and he lost
00:18:33.840 unfortunately
00:18:34.480 we didn't pick up
00:18:35.500 the Senate seat
00:18:36.180 and right now
00:18:37.160 Wisconsin is one of the
00:18:38.280 relatively few states
00:18:39.440 that has
00:18:39.960 a Republican senator
00:18:41.440 and a Democrat senator
00:18:42.560 so it's split
00:18:43.260 you've got Ron Johnson
00:18:44.200 a Republican
00:18:44.820 a conservative
00:18:45.380 a good friend of mine
00:18:46.260 and you've got
00:18:47.300 Tammy Baldwin
00:18:47.920 who is a liberal Democrat
00:18:49.380 and so
00:18:50.320 in a purple state
00:18:52.340 in a state
00:18:52.880 that is evenly divided
00:18:54.040 you would expect
00:18:55.220 that we win some races
00:18:56.720 and we lose some races
00:18:57.780 and so
00:18:58.480 all told
00:18:59.620 I'm really happy
00:19:00.580 about the three victories
00:19:01.620 but I would have been happier
00:19:03.540 with four victories
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00:21:02.560 alright
00:21:03.340 Senator
00:21:03.660 so let's move
00:21:04.800 to another
00:21:05.500 very interesting moment
00:21:06.740 one of your colleagues
00:21:07.860 in the Senate
00:21:08.440 decided he was going to
00:21:10.160 take away
00:21:10.960 your record
00:21:12.620 on a filibuster
00:21:13.760 you guys were
00:21:14.980 very different
00:21:15.720 in why you were
00:21:16.380 filibustering
00:21:17.200 but he did beat
00:21:18.360 your record today
00:21:19.260 and you even posted
00:21:20.560 something that was
00:21:21.400 hilarious online
00:21:22.520 as well
00:21:23.020 well
00:21:23.960 Cory Booker
00:21:24.620 Democrat from New Jersey
00:21:25.800 has now set the record
00:21:27.520 for the longest speech
00:21:28.680 in history
00:21:29.480 on the Senate floor
00:21:30.740 and he spoke
00:21:31.660 for 25 hours
00:21:32.900 and 4 minutes
00:21:34.300 and so
00:21:35.200 it was
00:21:35.780 incredibly long
00:21:38.080 it surpassed
00:21:40.440 the record
00:21:41.300 had been held
00:21:42.580 by Strom Thurmond
00:21:44.040 who spoke
00:21:45.900 for 24 hours
00:21:46.880 and 18 minutes
00:21:47.800 in 1957
00:21:48.960 and he was
00:21:50.380 he was filibustering
00:21:52.120 Strom Thurmond
00:21:52.720 was filibustering
00:21:53.420 the 1957
00:21:54.260 Civil Rights Act
00:21:55.340 and that
00:21:56.540 that had been
00:21:57.140 been the record
00:21:57.880 until
00:21:58.500 until last night
00:21:59.880 when Cory Booker
00:22:01.200 broke it
00:22:01.780 now
00:22:02.600 fourth all time
00:22:04.280 is
00:22:06.720 yours truly
00:22:07.660 I used to be
00:22:08.640 third all time
00:22:09.500 but
00:22:10.720 Cory knocked me down
00:22:12.540 and so
00:22:13.540 my record
00:22:15.760 in 2013
00:22:17.040 I spoke
00:22:17.900 on the Senate floor
00:22:18.600 for 21 hours
00:22:19.720 and 19 minutes
00:22:21.360 and so
00:22:23.160 Cory just beat me
00:22:24.340 I will say
00:22:25.240 I tweeted out
00:22:26.900 right before
00:22:28.600 he broke
00:22:29.640 my record
00:22:30.260 and so
00:22:31.480 I took to Twitter
00:22:32.220 and tweeted out
00:22:33.400 as Cory Booker
00:22:34.760 approaches my
00:22:35.500 21 hour
00:22:36.240 filibuster record
00:22:37.240 I'm contemplating
00:22:38.740 pulling the fire
00:22:39.900 alarm
00:22:40.300 hat tip
00:22:41.420 Jamal Bowman
00:22:42.120 and I sent out
00:22:42.980 a picture of
00:22:43.480 Jamal Bowman
00:22:44.280 the Democrat
00:22:45.280 congressman
00:22:45.940 pulling the fire
00:22:46.620 alarm in the
00:22:47.120 Capitol
00:22:47.440 to avoid a vote
00:22:49.220 and I will say
00:22:50.740 that that
00:22:51.280 that tweet
00:22:52.420 went viral
00:22:53.040 and in fact
00:22:53.780 Cory ended up
00:22:54.960 at the end
00:22:55.640 of his
00:22:56.240 25 hour
00:22:57.340 filibuster
00:22:57.900 reading that tweet
00:22:59.220 on the Senate
00:23:00.880 floor
00:23:01.260 which
00:23:02.800 which was
00:23:03.540 which I
00:23:05.980 enjoyed
00:23:06.360 and I
00:23:06.640 actually like
00:23:07.420 Cory
00:23:07.700 and he and
00:23:07.980 I are friends
00:23:08.520 and so I'm
00:23:08.940 glad he read
00:23:09.460 it
00:23:09.560 and I will
00:23:10.080 say in my
00:23:11.140 2013
00:23:12.980 filibuster
00:23:13.860 I read a
00:23:15.260 number of
00:23:15.740 tweets on the
00:23:16.360 Senate floor
00:23:16.920 and I believe
00:23:17.780 that was the
00:23:18.460 first time
00:23:19.080 in history
00:23:19.760 a tweet
00:23:21.440 had ever been
00:23:21.980 read on the
00:23:22.460 Senate floor
00:23:22.920 and I read
00:23:23.340 a whole bunch
00:23:23.940 of them
00:23:24.380 now
00:23:25.540 there is a
00:23:27.200 significant
00:23:27.720 difference
00:23:28.300 between
00:23:29.580 what I was
00:23:30.800 filibustering
00:23:31.320 over
00:23:31.680 and what
00:23:32.180 Cory Booker
00:23:32.660 was filibustering
00:23:33.300 over
00:23:33.620 what I was
00:23:34.820 filibustering
00:23:35.340 over
00:23:35.780 was Obamacare
00:23:37.020 and I was
00:23:38.720 doing so
00:23:39.320 because it
00:23:39.940 was right
00:23:40.360 when Obamacare
00:23:41.040 was going
00:23:41.480 into effect
00:23:42.120 and I was
00:23:43.860 trying to stop
00:23:44.540 it from going
00:23:45.020 into effect
00:23:45.600 because the
00:23:46.280 American people
00:23:47.060 it was having
00:23:47.820 the effect
00:23:48.300 of driving
00:23:48.760 up premiums
00:23:50.160 dramatically
00:23:50.640 reducing
00:23:51.180 choices
00:23:51.920 Barack Obama
00:23:53.260 famously said
00:23:54.280 if you like
00:23:54.720 your doctor
00:23:55.140 you can keep
00:23:55.640 your doctor
00:23:56.140 and millions
00:23:56.760 of Americans
00:23:57.360 discovered that
00:23:58.000 was not the
00:23:58.440 case
00:23:58.680 that was a
00:23:59.100 lie
00:23:59.380 in fact
00:23:59.780 PolitiFact
00:24:00.860 named Barack
00:24:02.040 Obama's
00:24:02.600 if you like
00:24:02.980 your doctor
00:24:03.380 you can keep
00:24:03.860 your doctor
00:24:04.360 the lie
00:24:05.020 of the year
00:24:05.760 and for them
00:24:07.020 to admit a
00:24:07.520 Democrat
00:24:07.780 is lying
00:24:08.640 is really
00:24:08.960 quite remarkable
00:24:09.620 because PolitiFact
00:24:10.520 lies for a
00:24:11.120 living
00:24:11.340 and so
00:24:12.840 that
00:24:14.300 filibuster
00:24:15.780 when I did
00:24:16.800 it in 2013
00:24:17.480 I was a
00:24:18.080 brand new
00:24:18.580 baby freshman
00:24:19.300 and it
00:24:20.900 was
00:24:21.460 the theme
00:24:22.440 of the
00:24:22.680 filibuster
00:24:23.140 was make
00:24:23.720 DC
00:24:24.100 listen
00:24:24.520 and I
00:24:26.240 will tell
00:24:26.760 you
00:24:26.920 it had
00:24:27.940 it had
00:24:29.880 a significant
00:24:30.940 effect
00:24:31.480 and in
00:24:33.260 fact
00:24:33.720 it
00:24:34.520 energized
00:24:36.260 people
00:24:36.980 across the
00:24:37.520 country
00:24:37.760 and I'll
00:24:38.080 point to
00:24:38.380 what the
00:24:38.640 effect
00:24:38.980 was
00:24:39.420 in 2014
00:24:40.320 the next
00:24:42.080 year
00:24:42.440 we had
00:24:43.380 an election
00:24:43.900 and it
00:24:44.500 was a
00:24:45.040 tsunami
00:24:45.980 election
00:24:46.820 Republicans
00:24:47.960 ended up
00:24:48.560 winning
00:24:48.920 nine
00:24:49.700 Senate
00:24:50.060 seats
00:24:50.500 we
00:24:51.560 retired
00:24:52.280 Harry
00:24:52.620 Reid
00:24:52.920 as
00:24:53.060 majority
00:24:53.500 leader
00:24:53.840 and we
00:24:54.940 ended up
00:24:55.360 winning
00:24:55.580 the biggest
00:24:56.280 majority
00:24:56.860 in the
00:24:57.160 House
00:24:57.360 of Representatives
00:24:57.980 since
00:24:58.360 1928
00:24:59.200 and if you
00:24:59.680 look at
00:25:00.000 exit polling
00:25:00.820 in
00:25:02.180 that 2014
00:25:03.660 election
00:25:04.340 the number
00:25:05.120 one issue
00:25:05.860 in the
00:25:06.160 country
00:25:06.440 according to
00:25:06.900 the voters
00:25:07.300 that were
00:25:07.880 turning out
00:25:08.340 in massive
00:25:08.780 numbers
00:25:09.180 was Obamacare
00:25:10.020 and they
00:25:10.520 were saying
00:25:10.900 finally
00:25:11.540 finally
00:25:12.080 you're
00:25:12.400 fighting
00:25:12.820 finally
00:25:13.280 Republicans
00:25:13.840 are not
00:25:14.220 rolling
00:25:14.500 over
00:25:14.860 and so
00:25:15.760 that
00:25:16.060 that had
00:25:16.580 I think
00:25:16.940 a very
00:25:17.460 significant
00:25:17.940 effect
00:25:18.380 on election
00:25:18.920 day
00:25:19.320 and helped
00:25:20.200 win back
00:25:21.560 both the
00:25:22.220 Senate and
00:25:22.580 House for
00:25:22.960 Republicans
00:25:23.440 I don't
00:25:24.640 think
00:25:24.840 Cory Booker
00:25:25.360 is going
00:25:25.720 to have
00:25:26.000 that same
00:25:26.400 effect
00:25:26.760 and in
00:25:27.520 fact
00:25:27.880 listen
00:25:28.880 I don't
00:25:29.460 know how
00:25:29.660 many people
00:25:30.060 watched it
00:25:30.600 I suspect
00:25:31.440 like
00:25:32.020 that CNN
00:25:33.820 and MSNBC
00:25:34.700 was probably
00:25:35.320 gushing about
00:25:35.940 it but I'll
00:25:36.360 confess I didn't
00:25:37.040 turn on CNN
00:25:37.760 or MSNBC
00:25:38.560 so I don't
00:25:40.080 know one way
00:25:40.620 or the other
00:25:41.000 I don't
00:25:41.340 particularly care
00:25:42.200 the seven
00:25:43.600 rabid
00:25:44.000 partisans
00:25:44.540 who watch
00:25:44.980 those
00:25:45.180 networks
00:25:45.620 probably
00:25:46.620 were quite
00:25:47.020 happy
00:25:47.300 with it
00:25:47.700 but at
00:25:49.120 the end
00:25:49.420 of the
00:25:49.640 day
00:25:50.000 look what
00:25:50.800 was
00:25:51.040 Cory
00:25:51.480 Booker
00:25:52.040 talking
00:25:52.440 about
00:25:52.840 as best
00:25:53.580 I can
00:25:53.940 tell
00:25:54.300 it was
00:25:54.880 I hate
00:25:55.420 Donald
00:25:55.700 Trump
00:25:56.060 I'm a
00:25:56.540 Democrat
00:25:56.900 Trump
00:25:57.800 bad
00:25:58.240 orange
00:25:58.540 man
00:25:58.780 bad
00:25:59.260 I'm
00:25:59.840 mad at
00:26:00.100 the voters
00:26:00.520 why did
00:26:00.880 the voters
00:26:01.200 elect
00:26:01.520 Trump
00:26:01.900 why did
00:26:02.300 the voters
00:26:02.680 elect
00:26:03.900 a Republican
00:26:04.380 Senate
00:26:04.740 why did
00:26:05.100 the voters
00:26:05.420 elect
00:26:05.720 a Republican
00:26:06.240 House
00:26:06.700 gosh I'm
00:26:07.380 mad at
00:26:07.640 the voters
00:26:08.080 gosh I
00:26:08.580 hate
00:26:08.760 Trump
00:26:09.120 I'm
00:26:10.580 not sure
00:26:10.960 there's
00:26:11.160 anything
00:26:11.440 new
00:26:11.740 there
00:26:12.060 I'm
00:26:12.680 not
00:26:12.960 sure
00:26:13.420 was
00:26:14.900 there
00:26:15.240 a
00:26:15.580 person
00:26:16.080 in
00:26:16.420 America
00:26:16.940 who
00:26:18.040 was
00:26:18.300 confused
00:26:18.960 yesterday
00:26:19.800 and
00:26:20.180 didn't
00:26:20.840 know
00:26:21.220 that
00:26:21.500 Senate
00:26:22.420 Democrats
00:26:22.980 hate
00:26:23.240 Donald
00:26:23.520 Trump
00:26:23.820 was there
00:26:24.580 any
00:26:25.000 new
00:26:25.980 information
00:26:26.680 in it
00:26:27.120 and so
00:26:28.040 I've
00:26:28.240 got to
00:26:28.500 say
00:26:28.700 I'm
00:26:29.620 skeptical
00:26:30.260 that it's
00:26:32.020 going to
00:26:32.220 have a
00:26:32.660 meaningful
00:26:33.080 impact
00:26:33.620 and I'll
00:26:34.180 point out
00:26:34.480 it's not
00:26:34.800 just me
00:26:35.220 who said
00:26:36.160 that
00:26:36.860 take a
00:26:38.560 listen
00:26:38.940 to what
00:26:40.060 Joe
00:26:40.600 Biden's
00:26:41.300 communications
00:26:42.320 director
00:26:42.800 Kate
00:26:43.860 Bedingfield
00:26:44.620 said about
00:26:46.000 Cory Booker's
00:26:46.580 speech
00:26:46.920 the Democratic
00:26:48.220 base and
00:26:49.120 Democratic
00:26:49.440 donors are
00:26:50.120 looking for
00:26:50.840 signs of
00:26:51.380 life and
00:26:52.000 so I
00:26:52.940 think what
00:26:53.480 Senator
00:26:53.880 Booker is
00:26:54.340 giving them
00:26:54.720 here are
00:26:55.420 is some
00:26:56.120 signs of
00:26:56.520 life is it
00:26:57.040 going to
00:26:57.220 have a
00:26:57.520 tangible
00:26:57.940 impact on
00:26:58.740 business
00:26:59.060 I mean if
00:26:59.620 he is still
00:27:00.100 alive after
00:27:00.720 this
00:27:00.920 it may have
00:27:01.980 a tangible
00:27:02.340 impact on
00:27:02.820 Senator Booker
00:27:03.620 but it
00:27:04.920 won't have
00:27:05.400 a tangible
00:27:05.740 impact on
00:27:06.200 business in
00:27:06.640 Washington
00:27:06.960 I mean
00:27:08.140 that's CNN
00:27:08.920 saying it
00:27:09.580 Senator
00:27:09.880 and look
00:27:10.680 it was
00:27:11.220 they changed
00:27:11.980 and that's
00:27:12.640 Biden's
00:27:13.100 communications
00:27:13.680 director
00:27:14.100 it's
00:27:15.140 Biden's
00:27:15.760 communication
00:27:16.260 director
00:27:17.120 amazingly
00:27:17.740 enough
00:27:18.160 and so
00:27:18.620 so look
00:27:19.600 Cory that's
00:27:20.260 that that's
00:27:21.100 fine now
00:27:21.540 now I will
00:27:22.120 tell you
00:27:22.660 so it was
00:27:23.500 funny as
00:27:24.000 as Booker
00:27:24.540 was giving
00:27:24.980 his his
00:27:25.540 filibuster
00:27:26.100 reporters were
00:27:27.500 all running
00:27:27.940 up to me
00:27:28.360 and then they
00:27:28.840 all knew
00:27:29.540 that that
00:27:30.020 that he
00:27:30.420 was he
00:27:31.300 was aiming
00:27:31.980 to beat
00:27:32.400 my record
00:27:32.900 so they
00:27:33.180 were asking
00:27:33.540 me about
00:27:33.900 it and
00:27:34.140 they said
00:27:34.480 did you
00:27:35.100 have any
00:27:35.500 advice
00:27:35.900 and I
00:27:36.320 will I
00:27:36.620 will admit
00:27:37.040 Cory
00:27:38.020 didn't ask
00:27:38.420 me for
00:27:38.660 any advice
00:27:39.100 so no I
00:27:39.540 did not
00:27:39.780 give him
00:27:40.080 any advice
00:27:40.540 on this
00:27:41.080 but I
00:27:42.800 did share
00:27:43.640 a story
00:27:44.100 so when I
00:27:44.580 did the
00:27:44.860 filibuster
00:27:45.360 in in
00:27:47.220 2013 I
00:27:48.520 had gotten
00:27:48.960 some advice
00:27:49.560 from Rand
00:27:50.000 Paul so
00:27:50.580 Rand Paul
00:27:51.360 had done a
00:27:52.380 13-hour
00:27:52.940 filibuster and
00:27:53.880 and I was I
00:27:54.620 was planning to
00:27:55.320 do mine
00:27:56.160 and and and
00:27:57.400 I and Rand
00:27:58.480 I asked him
00:27:59.940 hey Rand you
00:28:00.400 got any
00:28:00.660 advice because
00:28:01.180 he just done
00:28:01.700 13 hours and
00:28:02.480 he said yeah
00:28:02.840 two things
00:28:03.440 he said number
00:28:04.840 one wear
00:28:06.680 comfortable shoes
00:28:07.660 because he
00:28:08.780 said your
00:28:09.160 feet and
00:28:09.620 your legs
00:28:10.080 will be
00:28:10.360 killing you
00:28:11.080 and I
00:28:12.480 will confess
00:28:13.140 I I as
00:28:14.420 you know
00:28:14.640 every day in
00:28:15.120 the Senate
00:28:15.440 I wear
00:28:15.860 black cowboy
00:28:16.520 boots
00:28:16.940 the boots
00:28:18.420 I I wear
00:28:20.040 alligator boots
00:28:21.080 and and they
00:28:21.660 have the Senate
00:28:22.160 seal on the
00:28:22.740 front and on
00:28:23.820 the back of
00:28:24.340 it they they
00:28:24.880 have the
00:28:25.140 come and
00:28:25.400 take it
00:28:25.660 flag and
00:28:26.660 and so
00:28:27.000 that's the
00:28:27.540 that's that's
00:28:28.400 that's my
00:28:28.820 standard footwear
00:28:29.600 in the Senate
00:28:30.080 but for the
00:28:30.620 filibuster I
00:28:31.880 went to the
00:28:32.340 store and I
00:28:32.820 bought some
00:28:33.380 some black
00:28:34.040 tennis shoes
00:28:34.800 and and in
00:28:36.300 the middle of
00:28:36.760 the the
00:28:37.120 filibuster at
00:28:37.620 like two or
00:28:38.020 three in the
00:28:38.380 morning I
00:28:38.820 confessed to
00:28:39.400 the people of
00:28:39.900 Texas I
00:28:40.400 said look I
00:28:41.100 I have to I
00:28:42.400 I just have to
00:28:43.320 apologize to the
00:28:44.180 people of Texas
00:28:44.840 I'm sorry I
00:28:45.660 didn't have the
00:28:46.140 courage of my
00:28:46.680 convictions to
00:28:47.900 wear my boots
00:28:48.860 I I I weenied
00:28:50.240 out and got
00:28:51.300 black tennis shoes
00:28:52.140 but but I was
00:28:52.760 planning on standing
00:28:53.500 here for a really
00:28:54.280 long time and
00:28:55.600 and so I will
00:28:56.220 admit the tennis
00:28:56.800 shoes are are
00:28:57.700 are more
00:28:58.140 comfortable for
00:28:58.820 for the marathon
00:28:59.560 time the second
00:29:00.740 bit of advice
00:29:01.400 right I gotta
00:29:02.140 ask you yeah
00:29:02.840 I gotta ask
00:29:03.740 you though when
00:29:04.240 you're picking
00:29:04.640 out the tennis
00:29:05.140 shoes did you
00:29:05.960 buy brand new
00:29:06.800 or did you wear
00:29:07.420 them a little bit
00:29:08.160 beforehand yeah I
00:29:09.320 didn't break them
00:29:10.000 in and they were
00:29:10.660 fine and and I
00:29:11.600 don't think I've
00:29:12.020 ever worn them
00:29:12.600 since then like I
00:29:13.640 literally that wore
00:29:14.560 them for the
00:29:15.100 filibuster and that
00:29:15.740 was it but but
00:29:20.140 fortunately even
00:29:21.080 though they were
00:29:21.480 new they they were
00:29:23.020 they were pretty
00:29:23.540 comfortable they were
00:29:24.540 not bad at all the
00:29:26.660 second bit of advice
00:29:27.720 Rand gave me was was
00:29:28.880 if anything even
00:29:29.500 more important he
00:29:30.980 said drink very
00:29:32.920 little water and
00:29:35.260 in fact Rand said
00:29:36.120 when he ended at
00:29:36.760 13 hours he said
00:29:37.840 my legs didn't
00:29:38.620 take me it didn't
00:29:39.800 make me give in my
00:29:40.660 bladder did and
00:29:42.400 and the most
00:29:43.180 common question
00:29:44.400 that that I would
00:29:46.200 get about the
00:29:46.740 filibuster is okay
00:29:47.600 what what do you do
00:29:48.480 about going to the
00:29:49.140 bathroom and and
00:29:49.940 the real simple
00:29:50.500 answer is you
00:29:51.080 don't so the
00:29:53.300 rules of a
00:29:53.840 filibuster you have
00:29:55.860 to stand you
00:29:56.560 cannot sit and
00:29:57.980 you have to stay
00:29:58.560 on the Senate
00:29:58.980 floor if you
00:29:59.860 sit or if you
00:30:00.860 leave the Senate
00:30:01.540 floor you
00:30:02.560 relinquish the
00:30:03.260 floor and and
00:30:04.080 and so and
00:30:06.400 that's why that's
00:30:07.220 why comfortable
00:30:07.660 shoes matter because
00:30:08.400 you're not allowed
00:30:09.020 you're technically
00:30:09.880 not even allowed to
00:30:10.820 lean on the desk
00:30:11.560 although that that
00:30:12.660 rule is not not
00:30:13.520 heavily enforced so
00:30:14.340 you can lean a
00:30:14.980 little bit but you
00:30:15.640 can't but but you
00:30:18.240 can't can't sit and
00:30:20.380 and legend has it
00:30:22.480 that during Strom
00:30:23.480 Thurman's filibuster
00:30:25.920 that that that he
00:30:27.840 had an aide hold a
00:30:29.180 bucket in in in in
00:30:30.800 the Senate cloak
00:30:31.540 room and and and
00:30:33.300 and he he took a
00:30:35.560 leak while
00:30:37.080 filibustering while
00:30:38.340 standing on the
00:30:39.080 Senate floor I
00:30:40.120 I figured in the in
00:30:41.220 the era of of
00:30:42.580 C-SPAN that
00:30:44.220 probably wasn't the
00:30:45.180 best idea so so I
00:30:46.420 was not going to do
00:30:47.120 that and so for the
00:30:48.880 entire course of of
00:30:50.260 21 plus hours I
00:30:52.220 drank one tiny little
00:30:53.820 glass of water and
00:30:54.780 that that's all I
00:30:55.480 basically would take a
00:30:56.340 little sip just to
00:30:57.500 just to moisten my
00:30:58.920 throat and and I
00:31:01.000 gotta say look I've
00:31:02.320 never gone 21 hours
00:31:03.480 with going to without
00:31:04.160 go to the bathroom
00:31:04.960 and and you know I
00:31:06.960 discovered a very
00:31:07.680 simple principle which
00:31:08.660 is nothing in nothing
00:31:09.380 out and so it was it
00:31:10.720 was fine but that was
00:31:12.180 excellent advice when
00:31:14.040 does your mind start
00:31:15.280 to wander I mean at
00:31:16.340 what point do you feel
00:31:17.300 like you're getting a
00:31:18.120 little bit you know
00:31:18.940 delusional is the best
00:31:20.940 word I can use there's
00:31:22.040 got to be a certain
00:31:22.900 point where you're
00:31:23.700 sitting there going you
00:31:25.080 know it's like when
00:31:25.620 you do an all-nighter
00:31:26.420 in college you kind of
00:31:27.500 slap yourself on the
00:31:28.480 face you're like I
00:31:29.300 gotta wake up walk
00:31:30.360 around the room and
00:31:31.120 sit back down when
00:31:32.640 does that fatigue hit
00:31:33.880 yeah it wasn't too
00:31:35.340 bad I mean it was look
00:31:36.660 it was energized and
00:31:37.960 and I was I was
00:31:39.500 telling us a story I
00:31:40.920 was talking about the
00:31:42.920 very real people being
00:31:44.340 harmed by Obamacare and
00:31:45.940 I was telling people
00:31:46.640 stories and I was
00:31:47.460 laying out facts and
00:31:48.680 figures and data and
00:31:50.340 and and so I had a lot
00:31:51.420 of material that I was
00:31:52.840 presenting as I
00:31:53.480 mentioned I read
00:31:54.180 tweets about the
00:31:55.680 harms from Obamacare and
00:31:56.920 and we started the
00:31:58.300 hashtag make DC
00:31:59.400 listen which which went
00:32:00.680 viral during the
00:32:01.720 filibuster and and so
00:32:04.140 it really was I look
00:32:05.420 just like we're doing in
00:32:06.360 the in this podcast it
00:32:07.540 was an effort to
00:32:08.360 communicate with the
00:32:09.240 American people but it
00:32:12.180 now we also had some
00:32:14.560 fun so so the rules do
00:32:16.400 allow you to yield to
00:32:18.800 another senator for a
00:32:19.920 question and and and so
00:32:21.600 you can yield for a
00:32:22.540 question without
00:32:23.160 yielding the floor and
00:32:24.580 so what happens during a
00:32:25.800 long filibuster is that
00:32:27.100 people will come and
00:32:28.100 and support you and so
00:32:29.980 I had multiple senators
00:32:31.240 come and support me and
00:32:32.460 and they would Mike Lee
00:32:33.460 did did the most heroic he
00:32:34.940 was there for for a great
00:32:36.880 deal of the filibuster and
00:32:38.120 and and what what you
00:32:39.260 could do is is he would
00:32:40.380 stand as I'm up there and
00:32:41.560 he'd say would the
00:32:42.100 senator yield for a
00:32:42.880 question and and I'd
00:32:44.460 respond I'm happy to
00:32:45.300 yield for a question
00:32:46.040 without yielding the
00:32:46.900 floor and and then Mike
00:32:48.960 could ask a 30 or 45
00:32:50.580 minute question and and
00:32:51.960 and you know basically
00:32:53.040 give a speech and then
00:32:54.160 at the end of it say
00:32:55.080 don't you agree and and
00:32:57.200 so it would let you rest
00:32:58.180 your voice because if you
00:32:59.500 speak you know I know I
00:33:01.460 know you do radio for a
00:33:02.840 living but if you speak
00:33:03.740 20 21 hours without
00:33:05.340 pausing your your vocal
00:33:08.100 cords will be pretty
00:33:09.060 ragged so it so it was
00:33:10.200 helpful to have have folks
00:33:11.440 go and spell you for a
00:33:12.800 little while and I will
00:33:14.620 say you know at like 3
00:33:16.900 and 4 in the morning Mike
00:33:19.760 was there and he gets
00:33:20.740 really punch struck when
00:33:21.680 he went when he's tired
00:33:22.920 and so we were he was
00:33:24.800 reading like like bad
00:33:26.700 jokes and 70s rock lyrics
00:33:28.980 and look one of the
00:33:31.820 things people remember
00:33:33.020 from my filibuster is that
00:33:35.900 I read green eggs and
00:33:36.940 ham on on the Senate
00:33:38.320 floor now what a lot of
00:33:39.860 people don't know is is
00:33:41.060 why I read green eggs and
00:33:42.640 ham it do you know why
00:33:43.680 your daughters yes
00:33:46.240 so look at the time my
00:33:49.160 my girls were three and
00:33:50.660 five and and when I was
00:33:53.020 home every night I would
00:33:54.080 read them a bedtime story
00:33:55.180 which which you know I'm
00:33:56.140 sure you you do with your
00:33:57.240 kids too but that that
00:33:58.460 that was my practice when
00:33:59.740 they were little and and
00:34:01.440 so it was their bedtime
00:34:03.640 and and so we called home
00:34:06.600 and told them turn on the
00:34:07.760 TV and so I read green
00:34:10.060 eggs and ham and and there
00:34:11.480 is a picture in my office
00:34:13.000 which you've seen and and
00:34:14.980 it's both girls they're in
00:34:16.160 matching pajamas and and
00:34:18.200 Catherine was three years
00:34:19.540 old and she has her little
00:34:20.660 hand on the TV and and and
00:34:23.160 she she's touching it and and
00:34:24.920 and she's just sort of
00:34:26.040 watching in wonderment her
00:34:28.320 daddy read her green eggs and
00:34:29.840 ham on TV and and Caroline who
00:34:32.760 was five is just cracking up
00:34:35.700 laughing I love the picture
00:34:37.080 because she's just like laughing
00:34:38.900 hysterically and look Caroline
00:34:41.720 Caroline can can can be uh
00:34:44.060 cynical with her dad not not a
00:34:45.860 whole lot I've done in the
00:34:46.760 Senate has impressed her and
00:34:48.400 and she she when I came home
00:34:51.020 she she was five and she had
00:34:52.900 her arms crossed and she was
00:34:54.040 like okay dad that was pretty
00:34:55.860 cool and and I was like all
00:34:57.500 right I I was psyched that that
00:34:59.500 that that the bedtime story had
00:35:01.440 earned some brownie points with
00:35:02.580 the girls at home all right so
00:35:04.640 final question on this and and
00:35:06.540 this is I'm sure something that
00:35:08.360 was going through your mind
00:35:09.420 Cory Booker's mind when did
00:35:12.720 you know you were just going to
00:35:14.780 end it how do you decide are
00:35:17.060 you looking at a certain time in
00:35:18.880 your mind where you're like I
00:35:19.980 gotta make it to X and then as
00:35:21.800 soon as it hits I'm done what is
00:35:24.200 the process of that as well well
00:35:26.600 actually I I could have gone
00:35:28.640 longer and and the problem was in
00:35:31.300 in order to do the filibuster a
00:35:34.200 pure filibuster is when the Senate
00:35:36.740 floor is wide open and and you
00:35:38.780 take control of the filibuster and
00:35:40.620 and and it is the prerogative of
00:35:42.420 every every senator have unlimited
00:35:43.960 debate and so if you take control
00:35:45.620 of the floor you can hold it for as
00:35:47.760 long as you are able to hold it
00:35:49.460 when I started the filibuster on
00:35:52.880 unfortunately Harry Reid then the
00:35:55.360 majority leader the Democrats were in
00:35:57.000 charge had locked in a unanimous
00:36:00.240 consent resolution that the next day
00:36:03.800 there was a vote scheduled I think at
00:36:08.540 noon and it was locked in which meant
00:36:11.340 I had an endpoint I had an endpoint that
00:36:13.600 was a wall because that unanimous
00:36:15.360 consent had been locked in and and so
00:36:18.280 it trumps it it it is it's effectively a
00:36:23.600 Senate rule and so when I was north of
00:36:26.380 21 hours I I had plenty of strength I
00:36:29.680 could have kept going and and I really
00:36:31.560 wanted to break Strom Thurmond's record
00:36:33.400 and and I actually sent one of my
00:36:35.680 staffers to ask Harry Reid if he would
00:36:39.560 consent I I could have asked unanimous
00:36:41.800 consent to be allowed to complete my
00:36:45.020 speech and and and if Reid had allowed
00:36:46.840 it I I would have been able to so I
00:36:49.220 asked my staffer I'm like look do you
00:36:50.860 really want the record for the longest
00:36:52.600 filibuster to be to be held by by a
00:36:55.160 segregationist who was who was
00:36:57.460 filibustering against the civil rights
00:36:59.260 laws like like like you know I'd
00:37:02.540 really love to break it and and Harry
00:37:04.200 Reid bearing being Harry Reid he just
00:37:06.060 said no and and so I was forced to end
00:37:09.700 when when when I did uh Cory Booker that
00:37:12.660 there was not a unanimous consent in
00:37:14.260 place locking up the time and so Cory was
00:37:16.420 able to go long enough as long as he
00:37:18.460 wanted and and and then and he was able
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