Verdict with Ted Cruz - February 27, 2020


Ep. 14 - Live at CPAC


Episode Stats

Length

20 minutes

Words per Minute

175.42955

Word Count

3,628

Sentence Count

332

Misogynist Sentences

9

Hate Speech Sentences

3


Summary

Ted Cruz is back at CPAC, and he's got a special guest to talk about why he thinks Bernie Sanders and Fidel Castro are the same person. Ted Cruz is joined by Michael Knowles, the host of Verdict with Ted Cruz and host of the world's most popular podcast, Verdict.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 This is an iHeart Podcast.
00:00:02.540 Guaranteed human.
00:00:04.600 Hello, CPAC.
00:00:06.380 This is Verdict with Ted Cruz.
00:00:15.380 Welcome to Verdict with Ted Cruz.
00:00:17.620 I am Michael Knowles.
00:00:18.760 We are live at CPAC.
00:00:20.700 Senator, I feel like we're pretty much roommates at this point.
00:00:24.560 There's a lot of truth to that.
00:00:27.120 This is number one.
00:00:28.620 This is CPAC.
00:00:30.140 This is the largest conservative gathering in the world.
00:00:33.960 Yes.
00:00:36.680 You have conservatives.
00:00:38.440 You have libertarians.
00:00:39.520 You have bloggers.
00:00:40.800 You have cowboys.
00:00:42.640 You have young people.
00:00:44.420 You have lovers of liberty gathered all descending on Washington and terrifying the Washington bureaucracy.
00:00:52.380 And, you know, this is a pretty good time to be here at CPAC.
00:00:55.640 We have got record low unemployment, record wins.
00:00:58.920 I think we've got, what, 187 judges on the courts now?
00:01:01.740 Well, actually, not 187.
00:01:03.440 We've now confirmed 192.
00:01:05.840 192.
00:01:06.460 I stand corrected.
00:01:08.440 This is pretty good.
00:01:09.780 Twitter, right after the impeachment trial, which I will note, the Senate rightly acquitted the president of these ridiculous articles of impeachment.
00:01:19.940 Right after the Senate acquittal, I saw someone on Twitter that said, as revenge, the Senate should immediately confirm a judge.
00:01:27.920 I responded and said, nope, we're going to confirm five.
00:01:32.740 You're doing five.
00:01:34.200 And that's what we did.
00:01:35.560 So things are looking really, really good.
00:01:38.840 What I want to know is, how did this happen?
00:01:43.300 Well, all right, let's take this and break it into different pieces.
00:01:47.700 Okay.
00:01:48.520 First of all, verdict.
00:01:49.760 What is this?
00:01:50.680 Well, as a lot of y'all know, a month ago, we launched this podcast.
00:01:55.120 Verdict with Ted Cruz launched it on the first day of the impeachment trial.
00:01:58.940 The very first night, each night I went, jumped in a truck, headed down to the studio, and we would record at midnight, 1, 2 in the morning.
00:02:06.620 Whenever it happened, we'd record that night.
00:02:09.020 It went from zero, non-existent, to skyrocketing and becoming the number one ranked podcast in the world.
00:02:20.460 We've had now to date over four and a half million downloads.
00:02:26.760 And the way we're doing it, we're responding to breaking news.
00:02:31.220 So Michael talked about us being roommates.
00:02:33.240 The reason for that, this is the third verdict podcast that we have recorded in the last 24 hours.
00:02:38.700 This is, I was not supposed to see the senator until today.
00:02:42.260 I was flying into Washington, nice leisurely night.
00:02:45.100 He calls, he says, no, Michael, I'm really pissed off about something right now.
00:02:49.180 We're going to record a podcast tonight.
00:02:51.560 Get to the studio.
00:02:52.460 So, and I'll tell you then what tomorrow's podcast is going to be.
00:02:55.940 How many of y'all are familiar with Bernie Sanders kissing up to Fidel Castro and the communists in Cuba?
00:03:05.020 Well, I got to say that really pissed me off.
00:03:08.700 And I take it pretty personally.
00:03:11.380 So what we did, I called my aunt, my tia Sonia, who was imprisoned and tortured in Cuba by Fidel Castro's goons.
00:03:20.280 And my tia Sonia got on a plane and flew to D.C.
00:03:23.020 And we sat down and had her tell us about what Cuban communism is all about.
00:03:27.900 What it's really like.
00:03:28.740 And I have to brag for a moment about the senator because not only did he become the number one podcaster in the world, he also became the number one booking producer.
00:03:38.700 We've got another guest coming up.
00:03:40.260 We shot another show because you happened to have lunch with a guy who was in the United States and you brought him through.
00:03:45.880 Next week, it will be a big, big show on a totally different topic.
00:03:50.120 Yes.
00:03:50.520 But let's get to the topic of this show right now.
00:03:53.380 How this all happened.
00:03:54.480 The most fundamental political shift that has happened in the last decade is that the two parties have switched places.
00:04:01.680 Everything you've been told about politics is wrong and is a lie.
00:04:07.100 All of us grew up being told Republicans are the party of the rich and Democrats are the party of the working class.
00:04:14.960 In the last decade, those two switched.
00:04:17.800 Today, the Democrats are the party of the rich.
00:04:21.260 Today, the Democrats are the party of Hollywood celebrities and Silicon Valley billionaires and Wall Street titans.
00:04:28.780 They sip their lattes and they look down on working class Americans.
00:04:34.400 And on the other hand, working men and women, the working men and women here, union members, blue collar union members used to form the heart of the Democratic Party.
00:04:45.000 FDR Democrats who became Reagan Democrats.
00:04:49.180 Right.
00:04:49.620 And right now, today, they're Trump Democrats.
00:04:51.880 Well, Senator, you know, I missed the Reagan era.
00:04:54.220 I was not alive for that.
00:04:55.340 And so for my whole life, the GOP, which I always loved, you know, but the GOP was kind of a country club.
00:05:00.540 There was a really bad guy.
00:05:01.340 It was called the Soviet Union.
00:05:02.700 We beat them, freed the world, and liberty prevailed.
00:05:04.720 You spoiled the ending.
00:05:05.700 Now I can't even read the history book.
00:05:07.560 And by the way, we tore down this wall.
00:05:10.480 You know, for my whole life, the Dems have been the party of the working man.
00:05:15.760 I want to know, nuts and bolts, how did we end up where we are today?
00:05:19.980 So, under the Obama presidency, the Democrats made a decision that has generational consequences.
00:05:29.260 They chose between what had been historically favored children of the Democratic Party.
00:05:34.620 They chose between California environmentalist billionaires and blue collar union members and their jobs.
00:05:42.820 And Barack Obama and Bernie Sanders and Hillary Clinton, they all decided to heck with the workers, write them off.
00:05:50.700 We don't care about the jobs.
00:05:52.600 We are the party of rich coastal elites.
00:05:55.080 That has prompted an historic realignment.
00:05:59.640 And I've got to tell you right now, we're seeing blue collar workers.
00:06:03.500 If you care about jobs, if you have calluses on your hand, we are now the party, the Republican Party,
00:06:09.360 of truck drivers and steel workers and oil workers and farmers and ranchers and cops and firefighters and waiters and waitresses.
00:06:17.360 And everyone that gets out and works for a living, that's the Republican Party.
00:06:23.160 And the Democratic Party says, you silly little people, you deplorables, you don't need jobs.
00:06:29.000 You know, it's not just happening in the United States either.
00:06:31.340 We're seeing this happen throughout the West.
00:06:33.300 We saw it with Brexit.
00:06:34.420 We're seeing it happen throughout Europe.
00:06:36.080 There seems to be a rising up of people who say, maybe I wasn't a conservative before.
00:06:40.720 But now that there's a left-wing party that's taking away my national borders, taking away my right to make my own laws,
00:06:47.820 taking away my jobs, you're seeing this major coalitional realignment.
00:06:52.060 How many of y'all watched the State of the Union address?
00:06:57.500 I think it was by far the best speech President Trump has ever given.
00:07:03.920 He went through the incredible victories we're having.
00:07:07.620 But let me highlight one in particular that I think, because we saw a contrast.
00:07:11.280 As he talked about record low unemployment, the lowest unemployment for African Americans in history,
00:07:16.960 the lowest unemployment for Hispanics in history, the Democrats sat with their arms crossed, angry, refusing to applaud.
00:07:23.860 But that wasn't the worst of it.
00:07:25.780 There was a moment where he talked about in the last three years, seven million Americans have come off of food stamps.
00:07:32.680 And not only did the Democrats not applaud, a number of congressional Democrats hissed.
00:07:41.080 That sums up where we are.
00:07:42.880 Listen, the message of the Democrats, if you're a single mom, if you're dependent on the government for welfare,
00:07:48.900 if you're dependent on the government for food, their message is stay dependent.
00:07:53.040 They don't want you getting out of that trap of dependency.
00:07:56.800 And I'll tell you, look, I'm from Houston.
00:07:58.920 Right now today in my hometown of Houston, there is a single mom who three years ago needed the federal government to help feed her family.
00:08:07.660 The last three years, she's gotten a job.
00:08:10.700 Tonight, she's going to come home.
00:08:12.200 She's going to stick the keys in the door of her apartment.
00:08:14.380 She's going to open the door carrying a bag of groceries.
00:08:17.500 She's going to set those groceries on the kitchen table.
00:08:19.960 And her kids are going to look at her with a newfound respect.
00:08:25.660 She has the dignity of work, the self-respect of knowing she's providing for her family.
00:08:31.460 And her kids will have a level of hope and excitement.
00:08:34.980 Seven million lives transformed.
00:08:37.040 You know, that connects, I think.
00:08:43.640 I think that sort of message connects a lot better with the American people than 57 genders and we need to steal everybody's property.
00:08:51.340 I don't think that's as persuasive a message as the Republicans.
00:08:54.660 It is, the divide is so stark.
00:08:59.120 If you're a working man, if you're a working woman, the Democratic Party right now is not fighting for jobs.
00:09:06.740 And here's the key, going forward, the Republican Party is, and if we want to win going forward, we need to be the blue-collar GOP.
00:09:15.100 If we are the party of jobs, we are the party of the future.
00:09:18.360 Well, I know who can help make the party the way that we want to see it, and that would be the chairwoman of the Republican Party.
00:09:25.520 So let's bring her out, give us a little vision, answer some mailbag questions.
00:09:29.280 Chairwoman Ronna McDaniel.
00:09:43.260 Thank you so much for coming on.
00:09:45.120 Thank you for having me.
00:09:46.100 Welcome.
00:09:46.820 Thank you.
00:09:47.280 I feel so honored to be on the number one podcast.
00:09:50.920 Stop it.
00:09:51.580 Go on.
00:09:52.180 Go on.
00:09:52.820 Get out of here.
00:09:53.100 The number one podcast.
00:09:54.840 I mean, who knew?
00:09:55.700 I'm so lucky.
00:09:56.760 Well, we're pleased to have you here.
00:09:58.260 And actually, before we even get into the RNC stuff, which is now what you're running on the national level,
00:10:03.740 I want to get specific about a past job that you had.
00:10:07.460 You ran the Michigan Republican Party.
00:10:10.300 Michigan, a very, very important state in 2016 and 2020.
00:10:14.760 Yay, Michigan.
00:10:16.420 Absolutely.
00:10:17.280 And Senator Cruz, you were right on.
00:10:20.280 President Trump spoke to the working men and women in Michigan and transformed our state and brought new voters into our coalition.
00:10:28.040 And one specific county that flipped Michigan was Macomb County, which has gone Democrat for decades.
00:10:34.580 And President Trump came over and over and over again, everybody said, don't come to Michigan.
00:10:39.760 Michigan's a non-winnable state.
00:10:41.620 It's a flyover state.
00:10:43.100 Republicans haven't won there for 30 years.
00:10:45.000 I kept saying to candidate Trump, please come over and over again.
00:10:51.540 Well, I knew it.
00:10:51.960 I was looking at the numbers.
00:10:53.160 We had the data.
00:10:54.140 We were knocking doors.
00:10:55.540 We were talking to voters.
00:10:56.620 And we saw these forgotten men and women who really felt like Washington had left them behind, that it had become this redistributionist, coastal elite party of the left that forgot the middle of the country.
00:11:08.660 And you're seeing that even more.
00:11:09.880 The Democrats want to get rid of the Electoral College.
00:11:11.960 Guess what?
00:11:12.240 That means they won't come to Michigan ever again.
00:11:14.160 That's right.
00:11:14.760 And so the president resonated.
00:11:17.120 What's interesting about Michigan on election night that's often overlooked is Michigan was called for Hillary Clinton by the Detroit Free Press on election night.
00:11:25.000 That was wishful thinking, I think.
00:11:26.380 Because they had so undervalued the voters in Macomb and the shift.
00:11:29.960 And President Trump outperformed Mitt Romney, 16% in that county.
00:11:34.920 We won it.
00:11:35.680 Wow.
00:11:36.240 And that's why we have Michigan.
00:11:37.660 And part of the reason, President Trump is our president.
00:11:40.400 So, Ronna, let's talk as a practical matter.
00:11:43.260 If you're a steel worker in Ohio, if you're an auto worker in Michigan, if you are one of the men and women who have formed the backbone of the middle class for a century in America, what does a radical Democratic agenda, a Green New Deal of Bernie Sanders, what does that mean for you?
00:12:02.860 Well, let's just kill the car industry altogether.
00:12:05.380 Let's get rid of coal.
00:12:06.700 Let's kill your jobs.
00:12:07.800 Let's take away your health care that you negotiated.
00:12:10.100 That's what the Democrat Party means to you.
00:12:12.480 And, by the way, all that hard work you're doing and all those taxes you're paying, you're going to go pay for a bunch of kids to get medieval history college degrees and be in college for six or seven years instead of putting that in your…
00:12:23.900 Well, medieval history is helpful because Bernie Sanders might bring us to the dark.
00:12:26.600 That's true.
00:12:27.040 He is a little medieval.
00:12:27.780 That could be helpful.
00:12:28.780 I like that.
00:12:29.740 But it is frightening for them.
00:12:31.580 And the other thing that the president's done that's resonated so much is the trade deals.
00:12:36.300 He came to Michigan and said, NAFTA didn't work for you, and we need to renegotiate.
00:12:40.580 And he took on China.
00:12:42.060 This has been a leader, and people now know we have a president who fights for them.
00:12:46.500 You're saying this is a policy shift, too.
00:12:49.280 It's not just using nicer words to flatter new voters.
00:12:52.400 It's an actual shift in priorities and a shift in policy.
00:12:56.180 Absolutely.
00:12:56.880 And now, results.
00:12:58.720 Like you said, the people who come off food stamps, that's so personal.
00:13:03.660 You know, we talk about numbers a lot as a party.
00:13:05.720 Think about what that means for our family, the dignity of a family, to find a working wage, to be able to afford things like groceries, college tuition, gas, to be able to set a new course for your family in that path.
00:13:18.280 That's what America is about.
00:13:19.600 And that's what the Republican Party stands for, and that's why we're doing so well with this president.
00:13:25.080 Let me give you an amazing stat.
00:13:26.460 Last week, I was down in Laredo, Texas.
00:13:28.740 I was in Del Rio also.
00:13:29.940 I was meeting with the leadership of Laredo.
00:13:32.020 This is down south Texas, right on the river, Rio Grande Valley, right just north of there.
00:13:36.980 And the mayor told me in the last few years, the median income in Laredo, Texas has gone from $39,000 a year to $46,000 a year.
00:13:49.820 That's a pretty big raise.
00:13:51.220 Now, you want to talk about making a real difference, which, by the way, the power brokers of the Democratic Party think that doesn't matter.
00:13:58.620 Well, let me tell you, $6,000 a year in a single mom's pockets, in a working family's pockets, look, that's a car note.
00:14:06.080 That might be two car notes.
00:14:07.520 That's braces for your daughter.
00:14:10.120 That's maybe summer camp for your son.
00:14:12.580 That is the money to take a family vacation.
00:14:16.640 Maybe you haven't taken a family vacation in five years, and that extra money gives you the ability to go to Disney World with your kids.
00:14:22.780 That is what this fight is all about, and you look at where the two parties are going.
00:14:33.000 We have, and, you know, Ronna mentioned trade.
00:14:36.080 Both parties were afraid to take on China, and I will say President Trump has shown enormous courage taking on China, and it is opening up markets.
00:14:46.220 I sat down this week with Texas cotton farmers who are so excited about opening up the Chinese market and being able to sell more cotton there.
00:14:54.460 That is good for American farmers, ranchers, workers, manufacturers across the country.
00:15:00.160 Here's an amazing stat.
00:15:02.360 The last three years, 12,000 new factories in the United States of America.
00:15:08.140 Barack Obama said it would take a magic wand to bring manufacturing jobs back to America.
00:15:16.060 In the last three years, we have brought 500,000 manufacturing jobs back to the United States.
00:15:23.560 Senator, this is all too optimistic.
00:15:26.920 You know conservatives.
00:15:28.000 We need to be skeptical.
00:15:29.220 So I want to know, you know, a big aspect of the show, and something we love so much, it's why we love coming here, is speaking to the audience and hearing their questions.
00:15:37.000 So in the few moments we have before we go, I want to know how the Democrats are going to take all that away from us.
00:15:41.880 There is a question from Barron.
00:15:44.040 It came in on Twitter.
00:15:45.240 Question is.
00:15:45.880 Barron Trump?
00:15:46.680 I hope.
00:15:48.120 I'm just kidding.
00:15:48.740 It might be, actually.
00:15:49.860 Who knows?
00:15:50.600 I think the spelling's wrong.
00:15:51.340 You must watch your podcast.
00:15:52.640 I don't know.
00:15:53.660 The question is, is the popular vote compact, you know, the states are going to just go with the popular vote and give away their electoral votes.
00:16:02.120 Is the popular vote compact a violation of Article 1, Section 10?
00:16:07.560 Senator?
00:16:08.100 So, probably.
00:16:10.200 But it is an open question constitutionally.
00:16:13.060 So this is a question that is going to be litigated.
00:16:15.480 You're seeing states, Virginia was the latest one, that voted to give their electoral votes to whoever wins the national popular vote,
00:16:22.480 which means if you're a citizen of the Commonwealth of Virginia, your vote doesn't matter anymore.
00:16:27.180 Right.
00:16:27.360 You're going to vote for whoever California and New York vote for.
00:16:30.720 I mean, it's a bizarre, it's difficult to understand why that makes sense to Virginias.
00:16:36.020 There is one reason.
00:16:37.760 If you do that, you can ensure that people won't campaign in your state.
00:16:42.420 And keeping politicians from descending on your state, there is a public good to that.
00:16:46.460 So I get that.
00:16:47.400 I can empathize with them.
00:16:48.940 Chairwoman, do you have thoughts on this?
00:16:50.320 I absolutely do.
00:16:51.820 I think it is devastating for our country to get rid of the electoral vote.
00:16:55.720 This is what the founders intended for every state to have representation.
00:17:00.120 And just stay tuned, because the RNC is not going to let this go.
00:17:04.440 And there's something coming.
00:17:05.840 Really?
00:17:06.760 Is this a preview of things to come?
00:17:08.680 Let me just say, I have an intention to be the most litigious chair in history.
00:17:12.720 And I think what Democrats have done systematically to take away our rights, to rig the election system, and this, to take away our votes, our electoral college votes, and have California and New York dictate who the next president of the United States is going to be, is something we have to fight for as the Republican Party.
00:17:32.700 And do you know why the Democrats are doing this?
00:17:36.100 Why?
00:17:36.800 The Democrats are trying to do this because they're scared of blue-collar voters.
00:17:40.640 Absolutely.
00:17:41.200 They're scared of Michigan.
00:17:42.380 They're scared of Wisconsin.
00:17:43.560 They're scared of Pennsylvania.
00:17:44.760 They're scared of Ohio.
00:17:46.100 They're scared of Iowa.
00:17:47.560 They don't think they can get those blue-collar voters back.
00:17:50.440 Look, they're campaigning on eliminating these guys' jobs.
00:17:53.640 So their approach instead is, let's just hope California carries this over.
00:17:58.940 That's not the way our constitutional democracy works.
00:18:01.400 That's right.
00:18:01.660 And I hope you are the most litigious chair in GOP history because the courts are looking pretty good right now.
00:18:06.480 So 192 new judges.
00:18:07.980 This is the right time to do it.
00:18:09.040 Thank you, Ted.
00:18:09.820 And thank you, Mr. President, for paving the way.
00:18:12.200 Well, and Michael, the RNC is one of the few plaintiffs that would clearly have standing to challenge this ridiculous national popular vote.
00:18:19.940 So that, we may have made some news here today.
00:18:21.960 Maybe.
00:18:22.440 That's right, because, you know, you'd have to have standing to bring this, and the RNC clearly would be disadvantaged here.
00:18:28.340 Before we go, we just have a minute or so left.
00:18:30.780 This question that came in really tickled me, and since you are a party chair, I thought you'd be very good to answer it.
00:18:36.600 From Tonka Teddy Bear, that's the Twitter name.
00:18:39.220 That is a great name.
00:18:40.600 Is it possible that the DNC is not going to nuke Bernie and are writing off this election for two reasons?
00:18:47.620 They're under too much scrutiny to rig the primary but don't have a viable candidate,
00:18:51.620 and two, they'll blame the loss on Bernie and distance themselves from the socialists.
00:18:56.660 Oh, can I just say how much I love Tom Perez and what a great job he's doing as DNC chair.
00:19:02.460 I hope he stays there forever.
00:19:04.560 Four more years.
00:19:05.140 Four more years.
00:19:06.160 I'm running the campaign for him to stay there forever.
00:19:09.100 I mean, they're bankrupt.
00:19:10.280 I'm not going to brag, but we did raise $27 million in January.
00:19:13.840 Thank you all.
00:19:15.340 We broke a record to elect this president.
00:19:17.460 And the Democrats have a system.
00:19:20.380 You know, it's funny that they're against the Electoral College, but they're creating the same system in their nominating process where these superdelegates get to come in and take away the popular vote.
00:19:30.900 And that's what they're trying to set up for Bernie.
00:19:33.160 I don't know how they can do it without creating a civil war in their party, but, boy, isn't it fun to watch?
00:19:38.340 It is so fun.
00:19:39.140 And, Ron, I've got to ask.
00:19:40.840 So you were a state party chair in Michigan.
00:19:44.000 The Iowa Democratic Party.
00:19:46.000 Yes.
00:19:46.800 Yes.
00:19:47.020 What a crap show.
00:19:49.220 I know.
00:19:49.860 I have a simple question.
00:19:51.500 How hard is it to count the damn votes?
00:19:54.620 Seriously.
00:19:55.580 Honestly, I almost called a lifeline and said, can we come help you?
00:19:59.840 And, by the way, in Iowa, they're literally standing in a gymnasium.
00:20:03.380 Like, this is, it's not a complicated app.
00:20:06.100 It's called an abacus.
00:20:07.240 One, two, three.
00:20:08.300 You know what it is, Senator?
00:20:09.640 The reason they don't want to count the votes is that...
00:20:11.960 Medieval.
00:20:12.140 Medieval history.
00:20:12.760 There we go.
00:20:13.320 Back to it.
00:20:13.840 The reason they don't want to count the votes is because they don't like the answer that they're going to get.
00:20:17.160 I think that's going to be true in November.
00:20:19.260 We've got to go here at CPAC.
00:20:20.800 Chairwoman, thank you so much for being here.
00:20:22.600 Senator, as always, for being here.
00:20:24.460 I'm Michael Knowles.
00:20:25.300 This is Hurtick.
00:20:25.820 Thank you all.
00:20:26.360 With Ted Cruz.
00:20:28.920 Thank you.
00:20:29.840 Thank you.
00:20:30.420 Thank you very much.
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