Verdict with Ted Cruz - December 03, 2025


Exclusive with Scott Jennings


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Length

47 minutes

Words per Minute

185.58128

Word Count

8,850

Sentence Count

575

Misogynist Sentences

8

Hate Speech Sentences

15


Summary


Transcript

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00:00:05.320 Welcome. It is Verdict with Senator Ted Cruz, Ben Ferguson with you.
00:00:09.200 And Senator, we're going to have a really fun show today with a happy warrior.
00:00:14.200 A good friend of mine, a good friend of yours, is going to join us.
00:00:17.860 A man that you know from probably going viral on CNN.
00:00:21.760 Scott Jennings is going to join us to talk about a really cool book he's written
00:00:25.540 where he actually got to sit down multiple times with the president
00:00:28.660 and every one of the cabinet members to talk about the inner workings of the president
00:00:32.620 and what he's doing to save the country.
00:00:34.020 Well, that's exactly right.
00:00:35.260 We have a terrific guest on our show today, Scott Jennings,
00:00:38.420 the intrepid conservative warrior who goes on CNN every day.
00:00:42.780 He battles the crazy commies on CNN.
00:00:45.600 He does so with a smile.
00:00:46.980 He does so with a light touch.
00:00:48.720 He absolutely dominates the lefties.
00:00:52.260 And he's written a brand new book.
00:00:53.420 And the book is entitled A Revolution of Common Sense,
00:00:56.480 How Donald Trump Stormed Washington and Fought for Western Civilization.
00:01:00.960 Here's the book.
00:01:01.980 I would encourage you to go buy it.
00:01:03.960 And we're going to talk to Scott right now about this book
00:01:07.040 and about battling for truth and justice every day on CNN.
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00:03:00.060 It's really fun on verdict when we get to take a moment to have a good friend on,
00:03:04.180 especially when they're out there selling a great book that you should check out.
00:03:09.040 Senator, you're in Washington, D.C.
00:03:10.440 I'm obviously in Houston.
00:03:12.500 This man, I get to do battle with the commies on CNN often.
00:03:16.340 They've stopped putting us together.
00:03:17.980 I think that's on purpose.
00:03:19.840 I think they didn't like it was an unfair fight
00:03:22.060 when you have the brilliant brain of Scott.
00:03:23.900 And then, you know, I'm there as well.
00:03:25.300 I'm not saying I'm brilliant, but I'm saying it's a nice duo here.
00:03:28.760 But it's really fun to have Scott Jennings with us on the podcast
00:03:33.060 with a really cool book he has put out.
00:03:35.020 Well, Ben, I will say you spent seven years battling the commies on CNN.
00:03:40.240 And then I love you, man, but you ran Scared for the Hills.
00:03:43.840 You came to the safe confines of the verdict podcast,
00:03:47.880 where other than some ridicule about Ole Miss
00:03:51.300 and you used to have a football coach,
00:03:53.100 other than that, you avoid any confrontation.
00:03:57.420 Yes, outside of that, I'm Switzerland, as you put it, sir,
00:04:02.220 in Republican primaries.
00:04:03.800 So, and I will say, Scott Jennings has joined us.
00:04:07.460 I got to tell you, Scott is on CNN now.
00:04:11.040 He is battling with these Bolshevik idiots.
00:04:16.180 And I actually feel bad for them.
00:04:18.040 Yeah.
00:04:18.320 Because, like, he is beating the living crack out of them.
00:04:24.420 And I watch the clips on Twitter.
00:04:28.700 I'll confess, I do not watch CNN.
00:04:30.760 So it's got to go viral for me to watch it.
00:04:32.780 If it's actually on TV, I won't turn the damn thing on.
00:04:35.880 But if you have a moment that is 90 seconds
00:04:38.280 that you're just, like, body slamming someone,
00:04:41.980 I inject it like heroin into my veins.
00:04:45.080 I mean, it is.
00:04:47.540 So, all right.
00:04:48.820 And let's be clear.
00:04:49.660 Why is Scott here?
00:04:50.580 He is here for the oldest reason in the book.
00:04:52.660 So it is 1143 at night.
00:04:54.440 Yeah.
00:04:54.840 This poor man has to get up at four in the morning
00:04:56.960 to fly on a plane to L.A.
00:04:58.700 Correct.
00:04:59.240 He is here for one reason only.
00:05:01.080 It's not that he loves me.
00:05:02.340 It's not that he loves Ben Ferguson.
00:05:03.940 He is here because he is selling a damn book.
00:05:07.160 And it's a good one.
00:05:08.140 It's a good.
00:05:08.880 So his book is A Revolution of Common Sense,
00:05:11.420 How Donald Trump Stormed Washington
00:05:13.140 and Fought for Western Civilization.
00:05:15.720 And there's a great picture of Donald Trump
00:05:17.240 in a bright red tie.
00:05:18.560 So go buy his book.
00:05:19.780 His book is on Amazon.
00:05:21.020 It's on Barnes & Noble.
00:05:22.020 I feel confident you can get it
00:05:23.180 in any place books are sold.
00:05:24.860 Yes, sir.
00:05:25.380 Other than a lefty bookstore in Cambridge, Massachusetts,
00:05:28.120 they will not have this book.
00:05:30.120 But they will have How to Be a Transgender Witch
00:05:33.480 and Study Marxism.
00:05:36.400 So if you want that book, go to that bookstore.
00:05:38.720 But anywhere else, you can get A Revolution in Common Sense.
00:05:41.800 Scott, welcome to Verdict.
00:05:43.300 Thanks for having me on.
00:05:44.440 And it's a true story about the bookstores.
00:05:46.260 We've been setting up book tour events around the country.
00:05:48.900 So we'll call ahead and say,
00:05:50.100 oh, these people want to buy a couple hundred books.
00:05:52.440 And we've been hung up on.
00:05:54.760 We've been told no.
00:05:55.760 I mean, I'm like literally trying to filter
00:05:57.840 book purchases through your bookstore.
00:06:00.700 And they literally won't do it.
00:06:02.120 And so we talk about, I laugh,
00:06:04.820 these lefties constantly complaining about banning books.
00:06:07.220 The only one I ever heard of was this one.
00:06:09.400 And they wouldn't carry it.
00:06:10.460 All right.
00:06:11.120 So how did you come?
00:06:12.540 How did you start to be in CNN?
00:06:14.100 Tell us the start of how this began.
00:06:16.800 Yeah, I've actually been there for eight and a half years.
00:06:18.800 But for the first six years of it or so,
00:06:20.800 it was really very much a part-time job for me.
00:06:23.860 I got recruited in 2017.
00:06:26.080 I had done some work on Fox News in the election in 2016.
00:06:29.640 They recruited me over because after Trump won
00:06:31.920 and they didn't expect it,
00:06:33.200 they didn't have many conservatives.
00:06:35.020 Ben was there, he knows.
00:06:36.380 And so they were looking for a few people
00:06:37.760 who could explain, you know, what was going on.
00:06:40.220 And so I did it.
00:06:40.980 It was very part-time.
00:06:42.340 But then in the 2024 election
00:06:45.000 and the advent of this debating show,
00:06:48.360 it's become a much bigger part of my life.
00:06:50.460 So I'm a longtime member of the family,
00:06:52.820 but lately it's taken up a big percentage of my life.
00:06:56.220 Scott, I want to ask you real quick about this book.
00:06:59.620 And the cool part about this book
00:07:01.620 is a lot of people write books.
00:07:02.660 But one of the things is you actually talked
00:07:05.200 to the White House, the president,
00:07:06.940 about writing the book
00:07:08.020 and them cooperating with you to do this book.
00:07:11.580 How did that come about?
00:07:13.460 Who did you get to sit with?
00:07:14.740 How often did you get to talk to the president
00:07:16.380 to come up with all of the material in it?
00:07:18.940 Yeah, I went to see him in February.
00:07:20.600 You know, this title,
00:07:21.420 A Revolution of Common Sense,
00:07:22.540 is a phrase that he used in his inaugural address.
00:07:25.400 I was sitting on the set at CNN
00:07:26.480 listening to the speech thinking,
00:07:27.900 that would be a good title for a book.
00:07:29.920 And so I went to pitch the president on it.
00:07:31.920 Truthfully, I didn't really know him.
00:07:33.660 I talked about him a lot,
00:07:34.660 but I hadn't spent any time with him.
00:07:35.900 So I went to meet with him in early February
00:07:37.340 and thought I was meeting with him alone.
00:07:39.700 I went into the Oval Office
00:07:40.760 and the whole cabinet and the staff were there.
00:07:43.280 So I sort of got inserted
00:07:44.600 into one of these famous meetings
00:07:46.680 where it's like six meetings at the same time.
00:07:49.460 And we spent some time together
00:07:51.620 and I just told him that day,
00:07:52.840 like I think a hundred of the usual suspects
00:07:54.400 are going to come along
00:07:55.240 and write books crapping on you.
00:07:57.080 I think someone who likes you
00:07:58.680 and voted for you
00:07:59.400 and wants you to succeed
00:08:00.360 should get a chance to cooperate
00:08:02.460 with you about a book
00:08:03.340 about what you're trying to accomplish here
00:08:04.860 and the obstacles that you face.
00:08:06.280 I told him I thought
00:08:06.920 he revolutionized campaigning in 2024
00:08:08.840 and he was about to revolutionize governing
00:08:11.400 and that it would be a good opportunity
00:08:13.760 to tell the story to half
00:08:15.900 or a little more than half the country
00:08:17.260 that doesn't get that much good news
00:08:19.900 or true narrative
00:08:21.640 about what's going on out of his White House.
00:08:24.000 And so we discussed it.
00:08:24.840 He agreed.
00:08:25.300 I spent some time with him
00:08:27.560 a few meetings
00:08:28.960 over the course of the spring.
00:08:30.320 I traveled with him to Michigan
00:08:31.360 on his hundredth day in office.
00:08:33.680 I interviewed most of the cabinet,
00:08:35.480 interviewed quite a bit
00:08:36.180 of the White House senior staff.
00:08:37.660 And, you know,
00:08:38.380 some of the book is also just my observations.
00:08:40.520 I picked out the issues
00:08:41.540 that I thought were the biggest ticket issues
00:08:43.180 of the first hundred days.
00:08:45.060 And some of it's also informed
00:08:46.760 by the debates that I was having on CNN.
00:08:48.840 So what are the biggest ticket issues
00:08:50.680 from the first hundred days?
00:08:51.540 Well, number one,
00:08:52.660 I thought the volume of executive orders
00:08:54.460 made his presidency
00:08:55.960 the most active presidency since FDR.
00:08:58.600 Two, immigration is a big issue in this book.
00:09:01.440 And a massive success.
00:09:02.620 And probably his biggest success.
00:09:04.280 I mean, it's the biggest promise kept.
00:09:05.860 Ninety-nine percent decrease.
00:09:07.460 I mean, that's insane.
00:09:08.380 It's crazy.
00:09:09.020 And we haven't passed any new laws,
00:09:10.260 as you know.
00:09:10.880 We've just got a new enforcement mechanism
00:09:13.000 called the president.
00:09:15.380 And then also energy, frankly.
00:09:18.080 And the book kind of ends
00:09:19.440 where they're getting to passing
00:09:20.780 the big, beautiful bill
00:09:21.800 and the energy piece
00:09:23.740 and sort of how that's going to impact
00:09:26.280 the race to win the AI competition against China.
00:09:30.800 Also, frankly,
00:09:31.620 some of the cultural issues that he took on,
00:09:33.620 transgender issues, the DEI stuff.
00:09:36.580 I mean, these are not inconsequential matters
00:09:39.020 because not only did he sort of
00:09:40.580 rip them out of government,
00:09:41.500 but it created a permission structure
00:09:43.160 to rip them out of corporate America.
00:09:44.780 Yes.
00:09:44.960 Even just today, I think I saw AT&T
00:09:46.920 got rid of their DEI stuff finally.
00:09:49.440 And so-
00:09:50.200 The world's changed.
00:09:50.980 It was an amalgam of policy,
00:09:54.160 political, and cultural issues.
00:09:56.080 And he put a lot of balls in the air.
00:09:57.700 A lot went through the net.
00:09:58.640 Some are still laying out there.
00:10:00.560 But what I came away with was this,
00:10:02.540 that when you become a Republican president,
00:10:04.740 you have entrenched things
00:10:05.820 that are working to destroy you.
00:10:07.460 You have media that's trying to destroy you.
00:10:09.460 Bureaucrats trying to destroy you.
00:10:12.160 You have federal judiciary trying to destroy you.
00:10:17.460 And they're all sort of worked together
00:10:19.180 to overwhelm you.
00:10:21.060 And he basically just decided,
00:10:22.660 I'm not going to be overwhelmed.
00:10:23.660 I'm going to overwhelm them.
00:10:25.360 That's the story of the book.
00:10:26.860 So look, I think there are very real differences
00:10:29.800 between first-term President Trump
00:10:31.920 and second-term President Trump.
00:10:33.180 What do you see as the biggest differences?
00:10:34.620 Totally agree.
00:10:35.520 Spending time observing him with the team.
00:10:38.580 He got the team that matches his leadership style.
00:10:41.120 Yep.
00:10:41.360 First time around,
00:10:42.780 not sure they expected to win,
00:10:44.000 sort of inherited Republicans.
00:10:46.400 First time, I think they were kind of
00:10:47.560 the dog that caught the car.
00:10:48.580 They were like, holy crap, we won.
00:10:50.560 And I'll confess that there were some mistakes
00:10:54.920 in terms of the early appointments.
00:10:56.380 There were people that were put
00:10:57.240 in the administration the first term
00:10:58.740 who worked against the president.
00:11:00.600 And I think he regrets making those appointments.
00:11:02.800 I think the second term is much better.
00:11:05.000 It's a much stronger team.
00:11:06.540 Yeah.
00:11:06.820 And they know how to work with him.
00:11:08.600 They know that they're there to execute his agenda,
00:11:11.200 not their own.
00:11:12.140 And they also understand the hands-on nature of it.
00:11:15.020 What I witnessed in the Oval Office with him
00:11:17.120 is this is not a passive sort of situation.
00:11:20.340 This is him telling them,
00:11:21.760 go do this and come back to me and report.
00:11:23.660 One of the cabinet secretaries said to me,
00:11:25.380 you can tell the president we're working on it one time,
00:11:28.740 but you don't get a second bite at that apple.
00:11:30.600 He expects you to go do it and come back
00:11:33.060 and tell him what's happened
00:11:34.380 and give your progress report.
00:11:36.340 I witnessed that.
00:11:37.140 And so this time around,
00:11:38.420 they thought they were going to win.
00:11:40.100 They knew who they wanted to appoint.
00:11:41.360 They knew the issues they wanted to tackle.
00:11:43.120 And they had spent four years
00:11:44.340 thinking about exactly what they wanted to hit.
00:11:46.360 And so they hit the ground running with a speed.
00:11:49.420 I mean, there is literally no precedent
00:11:51.140 in American history for a president
00:11:53.080 that has moved so fast,
00:11:54.480 so many executive orders,
00:11:55.500 so many actions.
00:11:56.880 And listen, the vast majority I agree with
00:11:59.420 are a couple of missteps that I think occurred.
00:12:01.920 But you know what?
00:12:02.500 I would describe this as a bias towards action
00:12:06.320 versus a bias towards inaction.
00:12:08.720 And I'll take action.
00:12:10.340 If you're moving fast, you break a few things,
00:12:12.820 but they are moving.
00:12:14.580 And it's, I joke, but it's actually the truth.
00:12:17.560 I wake up every morning, I grab my cell phone,
00:12:19.320 and I'm like, what the hell did we do today?
00:12:21.500 And it is, I mean, it is that fast moving.
00:12:26.040 And in the early days,
00:12:27.040 in the early days of this,
00:12:28.660 it had the effect of overwhelming the opposition.
00:12:31.540 Yes.
00:12:31.820 The Democrats really didn't know what hit them
00:12:35.060 for the first several weeks of what he was doing.
00:12:37.800 One reporter told me that I interviewed,
00:12:39.700 she said, we don't know what to cover every day
00:12:41.740 because there's so much,
00:12:42.620 we don't know where to start.
00:12:44.220 That was the point.
00:12:45.100 He overwhelmed the forces that normally try to engulf
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00:13:21.500 So you and I met 25 years ago
00:13:26.840 when we were both young staffers
00:13:29.900 in the George W. Bush administration.
00:13:31.500 You were in the White House
00:13:32.300 and we've known each other a long time.
00:13:34.140 And I actually came up with this theory then,
00:13:36.180 which is there is a quantum of outrage in the media.
00:13:40.800 And I call it the arsenic quantum.
00:13:43.940 So if you remember in 2001,
00:13:45.380 George W. Bush becomes president.
00:13:46.620 And one of the first things that happens
00:13:48.740 is the EPA repeals a rule
00:13:53.520 from the Democrat administration
00:13:54.980 concerning the percentage of arsenic
00:13:57.660 that could be in water.
00:13:59.040 And it went from, I don't know,
00:14:00.760 like 4 million parts per gallon
00:14:04.840 or whatever it was
00:14:05.960 to 5 million parts per gallon.
00:14:08.460 I mean, it was an infinitesimal shift.
00:14:10.700 Right.
00:14:10.800 But the media lost their ever-loving mind.
00:14:14.940 And for about three months,
00:14:16.740 every media story was
00:14:18.200 George W. Bush wants to put arsenic in your water
00:14:20.520 to poison your kids.
00:14:21.800 And I mean, their hair was on fire.
00:14:23.660 They were losing their minds.
00:14:25.160 And I think one of the things
00:14:26.320 that President Trump has understood,
00:14:28.580 particularly this second term,
00:14:30.320 that's all the outrage there is.
00:14:33.440 So if you do a hundred things
00:14:35.540 and a hundred things
00:14:36.380 that are incredibly consequential,
00:14:37.940 you get the arsenic quantum of outrage.
00:14:40.400 They're still, they scream,
00:14:42.340 but they don't know what to hit
00:14:43.720 because they're moving so fast
00:14:45.880 on so many fronts.
00:14:47.160 They're repealing regulations.
00:14:48.920 They're implementing policies
00:14:50.500 that the media are just frustrated
00:14:53.220 out of their mind.
00:14:54.420 You're living on CNN.
00:14:55.680 Do you see that on a daily basis?
00:14:57.760 Yes.
00:14:58.100 I mean, every day,
00:14:59.000 you're going to get some outrage about something.
00:15:00.900 I mean, today,
00:15:01.900 the guy had a three-hour cabinet meeting.
00:15:04.080 Yep.
00:15:04.660 So I showed up over there this afternoon,
00:15:06.240 and for like six seconds of the three hours,
00:15:08.440 he closed his eyes listening to Marco Rubio
00:15:11.460 talk about something.
00:15:12.640 And they're like,
00:15:12.940 oh, Donald Trump slept through a cabinet meeting.
00:15:15.740 He literally conducted a three-hour meeting.
00:15:18.600 He held a press conference at the end of it.
00:15:20.400 This is crazy.
00:15:21.840 And so, yes,
00:15:22.820 they have to pick something
00:15:24.400 and try to generate outrage,
00:15:26.380 whether it's warranted or not.
00:15:27.860 I will tell you,
00:15:28.820 I think in this book
00:15:30.440 and my recollections
00:15:31.640 of the first part of the year,
00:15:32.920 the outrage was almost all directed
00:15:34.280 towards these immigration stories,
00:15:35.960 particularly the Kilmer Abrego-Garcia case.
00:15:39.440 So tell me,
00:15:41.160 do you think it is a good political judgment
00:15:43.940 for Democrats to say,
00:15:46.260 our party wants more illegal alien,
00:15:50.660 violent gang member,
00:15:52.860 wife-abusing,
00:15:54.200 human trafficking criminals in America?
00:15:56.480 And if you elect us,
00:15:57.600 the Democrats,
00:15:58.520 we will bring MS-13 to your neighborhood.
00:16:00.820 Like, help me explain,
00:16:05.260 help me understand the reasoning
00:16:08.080 behind a party that says,
00:16:11.480 let's go have daiquiris
00:16:13.060 with MS-13 gangbangers
00:16:15.000 and say,
00:16:15.660 we're for bringing them
00:16:16.640 into your community.
00:16:18.780 Yeah, I'm only moderately good at math,
00:16:21.120 but no, I don't think
00:16:21.900 that is a great political strategy.
00:16:23.560 But, you know,
00:16:24.040 I also think they're doing it again
00:16:25.600 on this narco-terrorist issue.
00:16:28.080 I mean, you've got people out here,
00:16:29.540 you know,
00:16:30.220 buying into the idea
00:16:31.520 that these poor Venezuelan fishermen,
00:16:33.280 you know,
00:16:33.520 have fallen under the gaze
00:16:34.960 of Donald Trump.
00:16:35.700 You look at the boats,
00:16:36.260 they're not fishermen.
00:16:37.000 Fishermen don't have
00:16:38.360 12 kilos of coke in their boat.
00:16:41.440 And then, you know,
00:16:42.940 on top of that,
00:16:43.800 sort of basically...
00:16:45.000 And by the way,
00:16:45.100 maybe it's 100 kilos of coke.
00:16:46.340 I don't even know how much they have.
00:16:47.820 But it ain't good.
00:16:49.060 And also threatening these...
00:16:50.800 I mean, essentially,
00:16:51.620 like Mark Kelly and others
00:16:52.720 are saying now,
00:16:54.280 look,
00:16:54.720 if you follow the president's orders,
00:16:56.560 we may come back to you
00:16:57.780 in a few years
00:16:58.380 and retroactively decide
00:16:59.960 that you broke the law
00:17:01.860 and we will come after you
00:17:02.900 if you help the president
00:17:04.040 serve as the legitimately
00:17:05.680 elected commander-in-chief.
00:17:07.000 I mean, that's what they're...
00:17:07.940 It's all about
00:17:08.620 throwing sand in the gears.
00:17:09.900 Shut down the government
00:17:10.620 to keep him from operating.
00:17:12.000 Get military people
00:17:13.180 to stop obeying orders
00:17:14.260 to keep him from operating
00:17:15.500 as commander-in-chief.
00:17:16.940 That's the outrage
00:17:18.180 that is coming out of their base.
00:17:20.080 Psychological warfare.
00:17:21.460 It's the demand.
00:17:22.780 Like, you must stop him
00:17:24.120 because we still don't
00:17:25.420 view him as legitimate.
00:17:26.760 They are the party of hate.
00:17:28.160 Like, the unifying theme
00:17:29.800 of the Democrat Party
00:17:30.740 is they hate, hate, hate
00:17:32.220 Donald J. Trump.
00:17:33.760 And it's performance theater.
00:17:35.900 Each one of them,
00:17:36.920 the shutdown happened
00:17:37.820 because Chuck Schumer
00:17:38.640 and the Democrats
00:17:39.220 had to show they hate him.
00:17:40.480 Yes.
00:17:41.060 And it is...
00:17:42.560 Listen, I've been
00:17:43.040 in the Senate 13 years.
00:17:45.480 This is the stupidest shutdown
00:17:47.420 I've ever seen.
00:17:48.380 Yeah.
00:17:48.540 Because it had no objective
00:17:50.080 other than
00:17:51.060 simply demonstrating
00:17:53.300 we hate Trump.
00:17:55.000 And, look,
00:17:57.060 you see it on CNN.
00:17:58.880 I mean, I actually really like
00:18:00.620 your book,
00:18:01.980 A Revolution of Common Sense.
00:18:04.620 You know, it used to be...
00:18:05.700 All right, so there's a very common,
00:18:07.340 as you talk to people
00:18:08.080 just across the country,
00:18:09.100 there are a lot of folks
00:18:10.200 that will say
00:18:10.940 both parties have gotten
00:18:12.980 too extreme.
00:18:14.740 And that sounds
00:18:15.760 very reasonable.
00:18:16.600 Like, if you're sitting around
00:18:18.080 at the dinner table
00:18:18.980 and you say that,
00:18:19.660 that makes you seem
00:18:20.640 very reasoned,
00:18:21.520 very moderate.
00:18:22.100 And I'll say to folks,
00:18:24.060 like, look,
00:18:24.600 I get why you're saying that.
00:18:25.660 That feels like
00:18:26.800 it makes sense.
00:18:28.120 I just don't think it's true.
00:18:29.280 I agree with you.
00:18:30.240 And if you look
00:18:31.140 at the two parties,
00:18:31.940 one party,
00:18:32.480 the Democrat Party,
00:18:33.300 has gone bat crap crazy.
00:18:35.320 I mean,
00:18:35.520 they've embraced policies,
00:18:36.960 complete open borders,
00:18:39.040 embracing human traffickers
00:18:40.700 and narco-terrorists,
00:18:42.660 abolishing the police,
00:18:45.020 boys and girls sports,
00:18:46.860 mutilating little boys
00:18:48.540 and little girls.
00:18:49.380 Like, these are extreme,
00:18:52.060 embracing Hamas,
00:18:53.780 celebrating anti-Semitic protesters.
00:18:56.020 Like, it's almost like
00:18:58.060 every issue that's 80-20.
00:18:59.840 Yes.
00:19:00.320 They went across the board
00:19:01.340 and said,
00:19:01.580 let's take the 20,
00:19:02.260 let's take the 20.
00:19:02.880 Sometimes it's 90-10.
00:19:04.040 And why?
00:19:04.740 Because Trump's on the 80.
00:19:06.640 And if you look
00:19:08.720 at the other side,
00:19:09.580 and I'll say to people
00:19:10.420 over dinner,
00:19:11.180 I'll say, look,
00:19:12.380 what are Trump's policy positions?
00:19:16.540 Secure the border,
00:19:17.340 cut taxes,
00:19:19.960 cut job-killing regulations,
00:19:21.560 support small businesses,
00:19:22.860 support the police,
00:19:23.800 protect our families,
00:19:24.760 support the Constitution
00:19:26.340 and the Bill of Rights.
00:19:27.200 Welfare reform.
00:19:28.440 Like, those are mainstream,
00:19:31.060 middle-of-the-road positions.
00:19:32.460 Those are not crazy,
00:19:33.780 right-wing positions.
00:19:35.040 Those are common sense.
00:19:36.520 Yeah.
00:19:36.760 And what's amazing
00:19:37.780 is the Democrats
00:19:38.620 have abandoned
00:19:39.540 the middle of the field.
00:19:42.740 They've abandoned
00:19:43.520 the middle ground.
00:19:45.680 Now, sometimes
00:19:47.380 the rhetoric
00:19:48.020 is a little hot.
00:19:49.080 So the sort of,
00:19:49.940 both sides are too extreme.
00:19:51.560 I do wish occasionally
00:19:52.720 the rhetoric
00:19:53.180 would ratchet back
00:19:53.960 a little bit.
00:19:55.000 But the actual substance
00:19:56.640 of the policies,
00:19:57.780 and I gotta say,
00:19:59.840 even when I'm sitting down
00:20:00.960 with lefties,
00:20:01.640 they don't have
00:20:02.080 a good response.
00:20:02.900 Like, what policies
00:20:03.980 is Trump implementing
00:20:05.780 that are extreme?
00:20:06.740 Well, he's deporting
00:20:08.040 illegal aliens.
00:20:08.840 You mean like Barack Obama,
00:20:10.360 who deported millions
00:20:11.140 of illegal aliens?
00:20:11.760 Like, he's actually going
00:20:13.620 and arresting murderers
00:20:15.220 and rapists
00:20:15.900 and child molesters
00:20:17.280 and gang-mangers?
00:20:18.800 That ain't extreme.
00:20:20.240 So my question to you,
00:20:22.260 number one,
00:20:22.840 do you agree with that?
00:20:23.640 And since you've been
00:20:24.120 nodding emphatically,
00:20:24.940 I kind of assume
00:20:25.600 the answer's yes.
00:20:27.140 I'm not nodding off.
00:20:29.400 You closed your eyes
00:20:30.700 for a second.
00:20:31.860 And by the way,
00:20:32.540 I have that effect a lot.
00:20:33.520 I put people to sleep,
00:20:34.400 so feel free to nod off.
00:20:36.460 But if you agree,
00:20:38.400 here's my real question.
00:20:39.960 Why?
00:20:40.820 Like, if you're,
00:20:43.540 imagine for a second
00:20:44.900 you're in the ninth circle
00:20:46.080 of Dante's Inferno
00:20:47.100 and you are Chuck Schumer's
00:20:49.040 chief political advisor.
00:20:50.920 Why would you do this?
00:20:52.160 Like, what's the reasoning
00:20:54.060 that presumably
00:20:56.020 they think this makes sense?
00:20:57.820 So what would a Democrat strategist say
00:21:01.780 that would justify this?
00:21:04.500 Well, it's very simple.
00:21:05.380 Fear.
00:21:05.880 And they operate out of fear.
00:21:07.200 I mean, during the shutdown,
00:21:08.240 which you're exactly right,
00:21:09.440 this was the most
00:21:09.980 pointless exercise.
00:21:11.720 One of your colleagues
00:21:12.500 anonymously told a newspaper,
00:21:14.560 oh, we have plenty of votes
00:21:15.420 to open the government,
00:21:16.220 but none of us want to face
00:21:17.360 the guillotine.
00:21:18.740 Yeah.
00:21:18.900 Their words.
00:21:19.560 Yeah.
00:21:20.120 Their words.
00:21:20.720 So they're using the language
00:21:21.800 of the French Revolution
00:21:22.820 to describe their own
00:21:24.120 political base.
00:21:25.480 They operate only out of fear,
00:21:26.800 not principle,
00:21:28.040 not ideas.
00:21:28.880 It's strictly operating
00:21:30.540 out of fear.
00:21:31.220 And it's also strictly
00:21:32.240 operating out of hate.
00:21:33.180 I totally agree with you.
00:21:34.980 And this is something
00:21:35.920 about the book
00:21:36.720 that I picked up on.
00:21:37.780 If Trump has sort of an idea
00:21:39.280 of like what the 80s are,
00:21:40.920 and he knows they will
00:21:41.860 reflexively pick the 20s
00:21:43.280 because he picked the 80s.
00:21:44.400 Yeah.
00:21:44.820 Whether it's secure the border
00:21:46.420 or get rid of paper straws.
00:21:48.080 Either way,
00:21:49.200 it's going to drive Democrats
00:21:50.760 into a silly position.
00:21:53.040 Well, I, for one,
00:21:53.760 want toilets that can't flush
00:21:55.180 and don't have enough water
00:21:56.280 to actually remove your waste.
00:21:59.360 Like, who the heck says that?
00:22:01.620 Is that an 80-20
00:22:02.580 or is that a 90-10 issue?
00:22:04.040 That's a real question.
00:22:04.380 That would be a 90-10.
00:22:05.640 I'd actually like straws
00:22:07.740 that don't disintegrate
00:22:08.680 in your mouth,
00:22:09.420 toilets that can remove
00:22:10.820 your excrement,
00:22:12.120 and like light bulbs
00:22:13.620 that can turn on.
00:22:15.160 There may be a dark
00:22:16.500 niche corner of the internet
00:22:17.700 that takes the other side
00:22:19.580 of the toilet issue,
00:22:20.460 but most people,
00:22:21.360 most people would want
00:22:22.960 more water.
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00:23:23.380 Scott, I want to ask you
00:23:24.640 your question.
00:23:25.160 By the way,
00:23:25.700 I'm going to tell you
00:23:26.200 a quick aside.
00:23:26.840 Hold on.
00:23:27.300 Part of Verdict
00:23:28.020 is bringing you
00:23:29.160 inside the Senate.
00:23:31.080 So I'm going to tell you
00:23:31.780 a funny story.
00:23:34.840 So when the Democrats,
00:23:36.840 when Harry Reid
00:23:37.400 had the majority,
00:23:39.100 just off the Senate floor,
00:23:41.660 there is a restroom
00:23:42.400 that is the senator's restroom.
00:23:44.400 And when the Democrats
00:23:45.480 took over,
00:23:47.000 they replaced
00:23:47.980 the toilet paper
00:23:49.240 with little square strips
00:23:52.120 of Kleenex.
00:23:53.740 And it was the most frustrating,
00:23:55.500 I assume it's some
00:23:56.380 lefty environmentalist idea
00:23:57.920 that like a tiny little
00:23:59.420 like four by four square
00:24:00.620 is what you would pull off
00:24:01.640 one at a time.
00:24:02.220 And it was infuriating.
00:24:03.600 And that's what
00:24:04.040 the Democrats did.
00:24:04.440 You were saving the environment,
00:24:05.800 sir.
00:24:06.040 You were saving the environment
00:24:07.100 one square at a time.
00:24:08.240 Man.
00:24:08.640 So when we retook
00:24:10.100 the Senate in 2014,
00:24:12.660 Richard Shelby
00:24:13.320 became the chairman
00:24:14.220 of the Rules Committee,
00:24:16.300 Republican from Alabama.
00:24:17.440 Richard is a good guy.
00:24:18.680 He's a good friend.
00:24:19.640 And I'm on the Rules Committee.
00:24:20.860 I came to Richard.
00:24:21.400 And I said, okay, Richard,
00:24:22.640 I got a simple request.
00:24:24.540 And could you put
00:24:26.360 some frigging toilet paper
00:24:27.600 in the restroom
00:24:28.640 that actually works?
00:24:30.120 And like two weeks later,
00:24:31.820 I go to the restroom
00:24:32.640 and there's a roll
00:24:33.460 of toilet paper there.
00:24:34.760 And I will confess,
00:24:36.340 I went to Richard
00:24:37.020 and I said, Richard,
00:24:38.120 I've got your
00:24:39.760 re-election campaign slogan.
00:24:41.060 You need to make
00:24:41.480 a bumper sticker right now.
00:24:42.680 Richard Shelby,
00:24:43.940 he gets shit done.
00:24:47.720 And I will confess,
00:24:49.160 even when Schumer took over,
00:24:50.260 he did not return
00:24:51.300 to the little squares
00:24:52.100 of paper
00:24:53.040 and it remains fixed
00:24:55.320 to this day.
00:24:56.220 But why is that complicated?
00:24:58.340 And yet,
00:24:59.420 for the Democrats,
00:25:01.320 like,
00:25:02.080 all right,
00:25:02.820 is there any person
00:25:04.040 on earth
00:25:04.540 that does not hate
00:25:05.800 a paper straw
00:25:07.480 that disintegrates
00:25:09.160 in your mouth
00:25:09.840 and doesn't actually
00:25:11.980 serve the function
00:25:13.020 of taking the liquid
00:25:14.000 in your cup
00:25:14.600 into your mouth?
00:25:15.280 So you're going to laugh.
00:25:15.880 The only one I hate
00:25:16.760 more than that
00:25:17.440 is the bamboo straw
00:25:18.880 that cracks
00:25:19.680 every single time.
00:25:21.820 The paper straw story,
00:25:22.880 which I tell in the book,
00:25:23.800 actually,
00:25:24.020 I was in the Oval Office
00:25:24.880 the day he signed
00:25:25.620 the executive order
00:25:26.320 on paper straws.
00:25:27.580 It was something.
00:25:29.520 And funny,
00:25:30.100 actually,
00:25:30.360 when I was in there,
00:25:31.380 some aide came in
00:25:32.620 and he said,
00:25:33.080 Mr. President,
00:25:34.000 I just found out
00:25:34.680 they're still using
00:25:35.300 paper straws
00:25:36.040 in the White House mess.
00:25:37.760 He said something like,
00:25:39.380 well,
00:25:39.560 I guess they still
00:25:40.120 had a few left over
00:25:40.960 from Biden or whatever.
00:25:43.060 But I tell the story
00:25:44.120 of the paper straw
00:25:44.720 because it's even more
00:25:45.860 absurd than you think.
00:25:46.720 Number one,
00:25:47.260 they got the idea
00:25:47.960 for paper straws
00:25:49.040 because a little kid
00:25:50.980 gave a school report
00:25:52.120 one day claiming
00:25:52.940 that Americans
00:25:54.160 were using
00:25:54.620 tens of millions
00:25:55.980 of plastic straws
00:25:56.940 and they were going
00:25:57.300 in the ocean.
00:25:58.180 It was completely fabricated.
00:26:00.280 And then the other thing
00:26:00.840 about paper straws
00:26:01.740 is that they actually
00:26:02.480 contain lots of these
00:26:03.740 chemicals and plastics
00:26:05.200 in the paper straws
00:26:06.360 that you ingest
00:26:07.720 because they dissolve
00:26:08.780 in the water.
00:26:09.460 So it's terrible for you
00:26:10.660 and it's terrible
00:26:11.280 for the environment.
00:26:12.120 I haven't heard that
00:26:13.000 but I can believe that.
00:26:13.940 Yes.
00:26:14.340 And so,
00:26:14.940 but because this kid
00:26:16.400 one day in his
00:26:17.320 elementary school
00:26:18.260 gave some report
00:26:19.260 about supposed
00:26:20.200 plastic straws
00:26:21.160 in the ocean,
00:26:22.220 Democrats adopted
00:26:23.140 this cause
00:26:24.260 of banning
00:26:25.600 plastic straws
00:26:27.040 and Donald Trump,
00:26:28.160 it took Donald Trump
00:26:29.220 winning an election
00:26:30.500 to finally bring back
00:26:32.300 plastic straws.
00:26:33.220 All right, so let me ask you this.
00:26:33.800 It's amazing.
00:26:34.180 A decade from now,
00:26:36.280 what is going to be
00:26:37.360 the legacy of Donald J. Trump?
00:26:38.880 What are people
00:26:39.580 going to remember
00:26:40.240 from the Trump presidency?
00:26:42.120 The broad macro
00:26:43.460 foreign policy
00:26:44.600 wins bringing peace
00:26:47.080 to all the corners
00:26:48.920 of planet Earth.
00:26:49.720 I think he has been
00:26:50.740 the most consequential
00:26:51.620 foreign policy president.
00:26:53.460 So why?
00:26:53.700 What has been,
00:26:54.500 I agree with you,
00:26:55.400 but what has been consequential?
00:26:57.540 What has mattered?
00:26:58.360 Well, what has mattered
00:26:59.360 is you now have
00:27:00.940 a strong American president
00:27:02.420 who's willing to engage.
00:27:03.660 I mean, this was
00:27:04.120 the great failing of Biden.
00:27:05.740 He was weak
00:27:06.380 and he was indecisive
00:27:07.420 and he didn't fundamentally
00:27:09.620 believe in engagement
00:27:11.660 and they didn't trust him.
00:27:13.820 The other players
00:27:14.600 on the board
00:27:15.200 didn't trust him
00:27:16.060 and they didn't really care
00:27:17.320 what he had to say.
00:27:18.300 And so he-
00:27:18.680 They weren't afraid of him.
00:27:19.620 Yeah.
00:27:19.920 And that's a dangerous thing.
00:27:21.600 I think our enemies
00:27:22.380 should be afraid
00:27:23.180 of the commander-in-chief
00:27:24.120 and I will tell you,
00:27:25.340 I talk with our allies,
00:27:27.140 I talk with our adversaries
00:27:29.420 and our enemies
00:27:32.640 are afraid of Donald J. Trump.
00:27:35.140 That's a good thing.
00:27:36.460 I want Iran afraid of Trump.
00:27:39.340 I want North Korea afraid of Trump.
00:27:41.120 I want Venezuela afraid of Trump.
00:27:42.480 I want Cuba afraid of Trump.
00:27:44.200 I want China afraid of Trump.
00:27:46.280 And look, it goes back to
00:27:48.680 when Reagan was president,
00:27:50.720 the philosophy of peace
00:27:51.800 through strength.
00:27:52.500 That is what Trump is implementing.
00:27:55.120 And I will say,
00:27:56.180 there's a debate in our policy,
00:27:57.580 in our party,
00:27:59.520 there are some who are arguing,
00:28:01.220 oh, Trump is an isolationist.
00:28:02.600 He's never been in isolation.
00:28:03.640 Never.
00:28:04.240 He's not interested in
00:28:05.960 extending an unnecessary
00:28:07.320 foreign wars
00:28:08.580 and I agree with him in that.
00:28:10.220 And he has been ending wars,
00:28:12.420 which is the right thing.
00:28:13.840 But look,
00:28:14.820 he stands up to our enemies
00:28:17.180 and one of the great faults,
00:28:19.780 both the isolationist left
00:28:22.000 and the isolationist right
00:28:23.300 believes that if you don't engage
00:28:26.540 with your enemies,
00:28:27.280 it will produce peace.
00:28:29.320 History stands to the contrary.
00:28:31.300 I pointed out,
00:28:32.220 there's a reason nobody studies
00:28:33.660 at the Neville Chamberlain
00:28:34.560 School of Foreign Affairs.
00:28:36.020 Like, appeasement doesn't work.
00:28:38.100 And if you want to avoid war,
00:28:40.160 the best way to do it
00:28:41.460 is to be so strong
00:28:42.780 that your enemies
00:28:43.820 are terrified of screwing with you.
00:28:45.980 And Trump is doing
00:28:47.040 a fabulous job of doing that.
00:28:48.800 And the difference
00:28:49.500 between Biden and Trump
00:28:50.660 is weakness versus strength.
00:28:52.880 And weakness produces war
00:28:54.200 and strength produces peace.
00:28:55.500 Yeah, I think this will be
00:28:56.880 an enduring legacy for him.
00:28:58.140 And, you know,
00:28:58.440 we talk about war and peace a lot
00:28:59.880 and that's the phrase.
00:29:01.360 We may just talk about peace and war
00:29:02.860 because he is a peace president.
00:29:04.920 Yes.
00:29:05.180 And he's for smart engagement,
00:29:06.420 but he's not for adventurism.
00:29:07.800 I think that's one.
00:29:08.540 Number two,
00:29:09.480 I mean,
00:29:09.720 clearly he showed us
00:29:11.160 how to enforce
00:29:11.720 current immigration laws.
00:29:13.720 That's a legacy.
00:29:14.600 And number three,
00:29:15.560 I think what they're doing on AI,
00:29:17.940 actually putting the United States
00:29:19.600 in the position
00:29:20.180 to win the AI race,
00:29:21.580 to produce enough energy to win it,
00:29:23.960 that is going to be talked about
00:29:25.900 10, 15, 20 years from today.
00:29:27.740 Did we do what we had to do
00:29:28.940 to defeat China?
00:29:29.780 I think we are.
00:29:30.520 I think most of our tech companies
00:29:31.580 think we are.
00:29:32.780 And so if that comes to pass,
00:29:34.440 those are three pretty great legacies.
00:29:36.320 So let's talk about
00:29:37.360 the third one for a second.
00:29:38.360 So on AI,
00:29:40.120 AI is an issue I care about a lot.
00:29:42.120 And I agree with you
00:29:43.020 that we are in a race.
00:29:44.380 AI is coming.
00:29:46.060 And either the United States
00:29:47.160 is going to win
00:29:47.680 or China is going to win.
00:29:48.820 And I think the world
00:29:49.740 is much, much worse off
00:29:51.140 if China wins
00:29:51.900 and it's much better off
00:29:52.900 if America wins.
00:29:54.280 I will tell you
00:29:55.400 the polling on AI is terrible.
00:29:59.080 AI is unpopular in America.
00:30:00.800 If you do almost any polling you do,
00:30:03.100 it's about 70, 30.
00:30:04.820 People are terrified.
00:30:06.020 They're afraid
00:30:06.420 they're going to lose their jobs.
00:30:07.500 They don't trust it.
00:30:08.540 They're scared of it.
00:30:09.520 And I get that.
00:30:11.160 And in fact,
00:30:12.040 I talk with a lot of the tech leaders
00:30:13.480 and I say,
00:30:13.980 look, if you don't engage
00:30:15.120 on this issue,
00:30:16.380 the easy political outcome,
00:30:18.540 every Democrat
00:30:19.180 and a number of Republicans
00:30:20.480 are like,
00:30:20.980 AI is horrible.
00:30:21.720 We oppose it.
00:30:23.220 And that,
00:30:24.120 if you look at the polling,
00:30:25.020 that's the knee-jerk response.
00:30:27.520 I get that fear.
00:30:31.780 I understand anytime you have
00:30:34.380 economic dislocation,
00:30:35.680 it is frightening,
00:30:36.840 it is dangerous.
00:30:39.180 But at the end of the day,
00:30:40.240 I'm not a Luddite.
00:30:41.040 I don't think you can stop
00:30:42.600 technological advancement.
00:30:43.960 I'll give you an example.
00:30:45.500 If I could right now
00:30:47.140 destroy every cell phone
00:30:48.380 in America,
00:30:48.800 I would.
00:30:49.380 I think these are evil portals
00:30:51.260 to everything harmful
00:30:52.220 in the world.
00:30:53.780 All three of us are parents.
00:30:55.820 These things invite
00:30:57.280 every horrible force
00:30:59.300 to our children.
00:31:00.580 Yeah.
00:31:01.300 But we don't live in that world.
00:31:02.600 We can't end that.
00:31:03.380 I'd also like a world
00:31:04.220 with no nuclear weapons.
00:31:05.300 Like if I could push a button
00:31:06.920 and every nuclear weapon
00:31:07.800 disappear, I would.
00:31:09.440 But we don't live in that world.
00:31:10.660 And if we're going to live
00:31:11.220 in a world with nuclear weapons,
00:31:12.440 I sure as heck want to make sure
00:31:13.640 the United States has enough
00:31:14.920 that China and Russia
00:31:16.180 and our enemies
00:31:16.700 can't dominate us.
00:31:17.580 I view AI in the same world.
00:31:19.780 Even if you don't want it to happen,
00:31:21.420 it is coming.
00:31:23.480 And one of two outcomes
00:31:25.220 will occur in five to ten years.
00:31:28.900 Either China will have won the race,
00:31:30.740 in which case AI worldwide
00:31:32.480 will reflect China's values,
00:31:33.980 will be totalitarian,
00:31:35.120 will be controlling,
00:31:36.220 will be censoring,
00:31:37.340 will reflect the values
00:31:38.380 of communist China,
00:31:39.380 or America will have won,
00:31:41.600 in which case hopefully AI
00:31:43.240 will reflect American values
00:31:45.200 of freedom,
00:31:45.860 free enterprise,
00:31:46.680 free speech.
00:31:47.820 That is a massive shift
00:31:49.280 between those two worlds.
00:31:51.000 World two is much better
00:31:52.080 where America wins.
00:31:52.860 two questions.
00:31:55.520 Number one,
00:31:55.920 do you agree with that?
00:31:57.940 And number two,
00:32:00.400 if so,
00:32:01.520 how does the politics change?
00:32:03.360 Do you agree with my point
00:32:04.280 that right now
00:32:04.940 the politics is against AI?
00:32:07.420 And that is dangerous.
00:32:10.240 Yes, I agree.
00:32:11.300 First of all,
00:32:11.800 on point one,
00:32:12.340 I agree with everything you said
00:32:13.440 about which world
00:32:14.220 we want to live in.
00:32:15.080 Number two,
00:32:15.500 I agree with you
00:32:16.040 on the polling.
00:32:17.140 And I think people have
00:32:18.080 a healthy fear
00:32:18.940 of how this is going
00:32:20.040 to upend their life.
00:32:21.960 Quite reasonable.
00:32:22.980 Which is a reasonable fear.
00:32:24.500 And so the next iteration
00:32:25.660 of this march
00:32:27.860 towards AI
00:32:28.580 is going to have to be
00:32:29.520 not how it's going
00:32:30.240 to make your life worse,
00:32:31.140 how is it going
00:32:31.500 to make your life better?
00:32:32.420 How has any other
00:32:33.760 technological evolution
00:32:34.900 ultimately made your life better?
00:32:36.940 And so that explanation
00:32:37.980 has to come.
00:32:39.620 And then point four
00:32:40.520 is just going to be
00:32:41.140 how are we going
00:32:41.460 to power it all?
00:32:43.040 And are we going
00:32:44.360 to be able to produce
00:32:44.940 enough energy
00:32:45.440 to do what we have to do
00:32:46.460 now plus what we have to do?
00:32:48.120 AI is energy.
00:32:49.400 And if we don't
00:32:50.300 unleash energy,
00:32:51.080 we cannot win
00:32:51.800 the race for AI.
00:32:52.620 One other issue
00:32:53.200 on this that is
00:32:54.040 on my mind is
00:32:54.980 how are we going
00:32:55.780 to build enough
00:32:56.600 of these data centers
00:32:57.560 to win this thing?
00:32:59.400 I'm noticing
00:32:59.920 in local communities
00:33:00.880 in a lot of places,
00:33:01.680 folks are like
00:33:02.940 rising up against
00:33:04.240 data center development.
00:33:05.140 So the polling
00:33:05.680 is terrible
00:33:06.300 in most communities.
00:33:07.560 But I will say,
00:33:08.160 by the way,
00:33:08.520 one of the few exceptions
00:33:09.540 is sort of West Texas.
00:33:10.740 You've got West Texas
00:33:11.820 in the Panhandle
00:33:12.520 and you're seeing
00:33:12.980 a ton of data centers
00:33:13.940 come in there.
00:33:15.420 And Texans are like,
00:33:16.820 all right,
00:33:16.960 we want jobs,
00:33:17.620 we want investment,
00:33:18.460 we want billions
00:33:19.020 in investment
00:33:19.620 and there'll be jobs
00:33:20.800 for construction,
00:33:21.600 there'll be jobs
00:33:22.060 for running the data centers.
00:33:23.680 Look, I think
00:33:24.440 in dense urban areas,
00:33:26.300 people are afraid,
00:33:27.280 they're afraid
00:33:27.720 it will suck power,
00:33:28.940 it will drive up
00:33:29.500 their electricity prices,
00:33:30.620 it will suck water.
00:33:31.860 And I get those fears.
00:33:33.120 Look, anyone,
00:33:34.840 if you're given a choice,
00:33:35.960 do you want something
00:33:36.660 that will make your life
00:33:37.600 worse or better?
00:33:39.500 People are naturally
00:33:40.340 going to say,
00:33:40.760 I don't want something
00:33:41.260 that makes my life worse.
00:33:42.120 And so I think...
00:33:45.640 By the way,
00:33:46.180 Senator,
00:33:46.400 I had a guy the other day
00:33:47.060 that said to me
00:33:47.520 in the AI industry,
00:33:48.460 he said the hardest part
00:33:49.980 for them now
00:33:51.380 is overcoming
00:33:52.320 what you're describing
00:33:53.180 because he said
00:33:53.820 their polling data
00:33:54.960 internally says
00:33:55.720 that the fear
00:33:56.940 in a lot of parts
00:33:57.900 of the country right now
00:33:58.880 are at the level
00:34:00.300 of where they were
00:34:01.140 with nuclear reactors
00:34:02.240 back in the 80s.
00:34:03.460 Yes, interesting.
00:34:04.900 And there's been
00:34:05.620 a lot of demagoguery
00:34:06.760 but there's also
00:34:08.940 the demagoguery is there
00:34:10.980 but I will say
00:34:11.820 the fears of AI
00:34:13.080 are real and justified
00:34:15.800 and all right, look,
00:34:18.720 with every great
00:34:19.500 technological change
00:34:20.700 there's been
00:34:21.240 economic dislocation.
00:34:22.640 So when the automobile
00:34:23.400 was invented,
00:34:24.920 the horse and buggy industry
00:34:26.020 was decimated
00:34:26.700 and if you were
00:34:27.620 in the buggy business,
00:34:29.940 you were screwed.
00:34:32.140 The difference with AI
00:34:33.960 is twofold.
00:34:34.840 Number one,
00:34:35.380 the volume is greater.
00:34:36.420 I think there are
00:34:37.040 going to be more jobs
00:34:38.580 that are going to be
00:34:40.120 threatened by AI
00:34:41.160 than have been
00:34:42.580 in previous
00:34:43.720 technological innovations.
00:34:46.080 Number two,
00:34:46.940 it's a different
00:34:47.440 contour of jobs.
00:34:49.460 So often in the past
00:34:51.080 it's been blue-collar jobs
00:34:52.420 that have been at risk.
00:34:54.300 Many of the jobs
00:34:55.060 that are at risk with AI
00:34:56.140 are white-collar jobs.
00:34:58.160 If you look at Mondami,
00:35:00.180 part of what elected Mondami
00:35:01.940 is you have
00:35:03.000 young college graduates
00:35:05.220 who have
00:35:06.080 $200,000
00:35:07.220 in college debt
00:35:08.380 who were told
00:35:10.040 I can go
00:35:10.900 and be an investment banker,
00:35:12.320 a consultant,
00:35:13.000 or an accountant
00:35:13.540 and they're seeing
00:35:14.740 those jobs
00:35:15.480 being eliminated
00:35:16.480 as AI
00:35:17.160 is replacing
00:35:18.080 thousands
00:35:19.340 and thousands
00:35:20.120 of those jobs.
00:35:21.500 That's a level
00:35:22.640 of,
00:35:23.040 I guess I would call,
00:35:24.820 elite discontent
00:35:26.240 that is
00:35:28.720 politically complicated.
00:35:32.240 And so,
00:35:33.760 and I get
00:35:34.700 those concerns
00:35:35.660 are very real.
00:35:36.520 If you've gone
00:35:37.440 and worked hard
00:35:38.080 and you got a degree
00:35:38.820 and you took out loans
00:35:40.680 and you were told
00:35:41.260 this is what I gotta do
00:35:42.380 and then suddenly
00:35:42.920 you come out
00:35:43.420 and you can't get a job,
00:35:45.020 you're pissed.
00:35:46.260 Like,
00:35:46.600 that's a very real concern.
00:35:48.760 And so I actually think
00:35:49.660 as policy makers,
00:35:51.860 as people
00:35:52.280 in elected office,
00:35:53.280 we need to have
00:35:54.320 real solutions
00:35:55.120 to that problem
00:35:55.860 because that
00:35:56.460 that discontent
00:35:57.840 is not illegitimate
00:35:59.500 but it is driving
00:36:01.280 much of this resistance
00:36:02.460 and it's a very real
00:36:03.780 battle we've got.
00:36:04.900 Well,
00:36:05.100 and you have now
00:36:06.200 for,
00:36:06.660 you know,
00:36:07.020 many years
00:36:07.800 people teaching
00:36:09.680 their children,
00:36:10.460 here's the course
00:36:10.980 you gotta get on.
00:36:11.860 Do well in school,
00:36:12.720 go to college,
00:36:13.400 you can get one of these
00:36:14.340 white collar jobs
00:36:15.440 and, you know,
00:36:16.680 for, you know,
00:36:17.520 a few generations
00:36:18.080 we've been telling people
00:36:18.860 this is the path.
00:36:19.720 It may not be
00:36:20.580 the path anymore.
00:36:21.960 We're gonna have to reorient
00:36:22.960 how we're educating
00:36:24.300 kids,
00:36:25.180 what we're teaching
00:36:26.400 them to do,
00:36:26.940 what other skills
00:36:27.620 can we teach them to do.
00:36:28.700 I agree with you
00:36:29.200 on the white collar
00:36:30.380 versus blue collar issue.
00:36:31.760 Also creatives.
00:36:32.860 I mean,
00:36:34.220 I've seen AI apps
00:36:36.760 in a matter of seconds
00:36:37.920 write songs
00:36:38.700 that sounded like
00:36:39.560 they had a whole team
00:36:40.680 of musicians and writers
00:36:41.960 over weeks
00:36:42.680 putting them together
00:36:43.380 in California
00:36:44.740 and it literally
00:36:45.660 happened on my phone
00:36:46.480 in a matter of seconds.
00:36:47.520 By the way,
00:36:47.860 I'll tell you
00:36:48.340 in politics
00:36:48.880 it's interesting
00:36:49.580 I'll pull up AI
00:36:50.540 and I'll ask something like
00:36:52.760 what has Cruz said
00:36:54.820 on the following issue
00:36:55.840 and listen,
00:36:56.500 I've been doing this
00:36:57.040 a long time
00:36:57.560 so I don't remember
00:36:58.280 every comment
00:36:58.980 I've given
00:36:59.400 in every newspaper
00:37:00.120 interview 10 years ago
00:37:01.540 and in like four seconds
00:37:03.720 it comes out with
00:37:04.900 he said this here,
00:37:05.860 he said this here
00:37:06.420 and it like traces
00:37:07.560 and it's like
00:37:08.540 it's insane.
00:37:10.200 It is insane
00:37:12.180 the ability of power
00:37:13.600 you have on your cell phone.
00:37:15.360 Oh yeah,
00:37:15.860 I mean,
00:37:16.540 and it's basically free.
00:37:18.400 I mean,
00:37:18.660 information
00:37:19.240 for the first time
00:37:21.060 in human history
00:37:21.780 is basically
00:37:22.640 accessible to all
00:37:24.120 and free to all
00:37:25.000 and instant
00:37:25.600 and yeah,
00:37:27.140 it's,
00:37:27.640 I can see why
00:37:28.520 the polling on this
00:37:29.260 is bad.
00:37:29.780 Now,
00:37:31.020 the positive outlook here
00:37:32.560 is how can we use
00:37:33.600 these tools
00:37:34.160 to make your life easier,
00:37:35.580 make you more productive
00:37:36.420 and maybe make you
00:37:37.960 more economically successful
00:37:39.160 and maybe you haven't conceived
00:37:40.180 of how that will work yet
00:37:41.280 but that's the challenge
00:37:42.900 of these companies
00:37:43.480 that are developing
00:37:44.080 the technology.
00:37:44.520 Well,
00:37:44.760 and past technological inventions
00:37:46.480 that have increased productivity
00:37:48.700 have created brand new jobs,
00:37:51.420 have created brand new focuses
00:37:54.460 and so dislocation
00:37:56.380 doesn't mean
00:37:56.900 that people lose jobs forever
00:37:58.220 but it is complicated.
00:37:59.600 All right,
00:37:59.760 let me ask you this.
00:38:00.680 Yep.
00:38:02.140 You're listening
00:38:02.880 to this podcast right now,
00:38:04.080 you're trying to decide
00:38:05.000 do I buy Scott Jennings' book?
00:38:07.780 What's the 60-second pitch
00:38:11.740 for why you right now
00:38:13.280 should go on Amazon?
00:38:14.680 As you're listening to this,
00:38:16.020 click on and buy the book.
00:38:17.660 What's the most powerful reason
00:38:19.120 to buy the book?
00:38:20.200 Because most of the political narrative
00:38:22.700 and information narrative
00:38:24.240 you get on Trump
00:38:25.120 I think is totally misguided.
00:38:27.440 A lot of it's false.
00:38:28.780 This is a true inside account
00:38:30.700 of how Donald Trump retook power,
00:38:32.820 what he did with that power,
00:38:34.220 how he overcame the interest
00:38:36.000 to execute on the promises
00:38:38.120 that he made.
00:38:39.180 I think you'll see
00:38:39.780 some eye-popping quotes in here
00:38:41.220 from people like Marco Rubio,
00:38:42.880 Scott Besson,
00:38:43.580 and Elon Musk
00:38:44.440 who I interviewed
00:38:45.020 on his 101st day in office
00:38:47.400 and I could tell,
00:38:48.300 by the way,
00:38:48.640 he was bent out of shape that day
00:38:50.140 and really worried
00:38:51.520 about the future
00:38:52.140 of Western civilization.
00:38:53.400 I didn't know
00:38:53.700 he was going to have
00:38:54.220 his dramatic momentary break
00:38:55.960 but you know...
00:38:57.100 How quickly after your interview
00:38:58.660 did that happen?
00:38:59.380 Just a couple of weeks.
00:39:00.800 Yeah.
00:39:01.140 It was day 101
00:39:02.640 and of course
00:39:03.320 he got bent out of shape.
00:39:04.140 So I was actually
00:39:04.940 sitting in the Oval Office
00:39:06.200 when Elon
00:39:08.360 like really unloaded on Trump
00:39:10.740 and unloaded on Twitter
00:39:11.840 and it was...
00:39:13.040 I will say
00:39:13.740 I was having a meeting
00:39:14.460 with Trump
00:39:14.920 on school choice
00:39:15.780 where I had brought
00:39:17.020 Byron Donalds
00:39:18.340 and Burgess Owens in
00:39:19.640 and we were in the middle
00:39:20.340 of the one big beautiful bill
00:39:21.420 and I was trying
00:39:22.680 to make the case,
00:39:23.440 Mr. President,
00:39:24.040 there's nothing we can do
00:39:24.940 that's more important
00:39:25.680 in this bill
00:39:26.200 than school choice.
00:39:27.100 This will be a legacy.
00:39:28.120 I said,
00:39:28.380 if we get this done,
00:39:29.900 you will go down in history.
00:39:31.300 Your critics
00:39:31.640 will never acknowledge this
00:39:32.620 but you will go down
00:39:33.320 in history
00:39:33.740 as the greatest
00:39:34.220 civil rights president
00:39:35.180 of our lifetimes.
00:39:37.320 We ended up getting it done
00:39:38.600 so we adopted
00:39:39.480 the school choice provision
00:39:40.780 that I wrote
00:39:41.400 but in the middle
00:39:42.620 of that meeting
00:39:43.240 as I'm pitching it to
00:39:44.320 Elon sent,
00:39:46.960 I will say,
00:39:47.680 his most aggressive tweet
00:39:51.180 against Trump
00:39:52.200 and so Trump
00:39:54.980 is actually not
00:39:55.640 on his phone a ton
00:39:56.660 so when you're in the Oval
00:39:58.260 they will print out tweets
00:39:59.640 on a piece of paper
00:40:00.460 and they will hand it to him
00:40:01.560 and they handed it to him
00:40:03.620 and look,
00:40:04.820 Elon is a very good friend,
00:40:06.320 President Trump
00:40:06.800 is a very good friend.
00:40:08.120 I will say
00:40:08.940 when that particular tweet
00:40:10.420 came out,
00:40:11.880 he was pissed
00:40:13.020 and our meeting
00:40:14.600 was done.
00:40:15.700 We were there
00:40:16.540 for another half hour
00:40:17.460 but our discussion topic
00:40:18.980 was gone
00:40:19.560 because he was like
00:40:20.380 unloading
00:40:20.940 so it was
00:40:21.860 and I'm very glad
00:40:23.880 I spent a lot of time
00:40:26.620 with both
00:40:27.000 President Trump
00:40:27.580 and Elon
00:40:27.860 and I'm very glad
00:40:28.700 that that acrimony
00:40:30.080 has diminished substantially
00:40:32.340 and that they've
00:40:32.840 come back together
00:40:33.540 because I think
00:40:34.040 they're both
00:40:34.660 incredibly important
00:40:36.880 leaders for the country
00:40:37.800 and I think
00:40:38.260 we're better off
00:40:39.000 if they're rowing together
00:40:40.380 than if they're antagonistic.
00:40:42.580 Yeah, the day
00:40:42.940 that they had their break
00:40:44.280 I was on CNN
00:40:45.240 when it happened
00:40:45.800 and I picked up
00:40:46.660 a garbage can
00:40:47.500 and I put my head in it
00:40:49.100 live on the air
00:40:49.980 to mimic
00:40:51.140 how I thought
00:40:51.980 all Republicans
00:40:52.620 were feeling
00:40:53.220 because
00:40:53.980 when they joined forces
00:40:55.820 they worked together
00:40:57.820 to do nothing less
00:40:59.080 than begin
00:41:00.040 the process
00:41:00.820 of saving the West.
00:41:02.140 Amen.
00:41:02.900 If we had not won
00:41:03.800 the November 2024 election
00:41:05.260 we would be
00:41:05.900 on a death spiral
00:41:07.000 for the future
00:41:08.160 of the West.
00:41:08.920 Trump is our leader
00:41:10.300 in this.
00:41:10.900 Elon knows it.
00:41:12.100 He's worried about
00:41:12.700 our fiscal situation
00:41:13.720 the mass migration crisis
00:41:15.140 the birth rate crisis
00:41:16.340 and all these things
00:41:17.580 converging to destroy
00:41:18.700 the West.
00:41:19.840 He knows
00:41:20.540 that I think
00:41:21.740 Trump and the Republicans
00:41:22.700 are the only vehicle
00:41:24.020 to save it.
00:41:24.720 Yep.
00:41:25.100 And so when they
00:41:25.640 had their break
00:41:26.320 I mean it was a
00:41:27.760 it was a vomit
00:41:28.440 inducing moment
00:41:29.140 but it appears to me
00:41:30.160 that they're
00:41:30.840 reconmercing.
00:41:31.820 And by the way
00:41:32.460 they seem to be
00:41:32.940 on much better footing
00:41:34.100 even this over Thanksgiving.
00:41:35.380 Seeing the two of them
00:41:36.520 come back together
00:41:37.240 was important.
00:41:38.260 Yeah.
00:41:38.640 And listen
00:41:39.340 nobody who knows
00:41:40.840 the two of them
00:41:41.800 well
00:41:42.500 thought that the bromance
00:41:45.420 was going to last forever.
00:41:46.600 So the first several months
00:41:47.800 where they were just
00:41:48.620 like bosom buddies
00:41:49.620 they're both alpha males
00:41:52.800 they're
00:41:54.160 they
00:41:54.500 every room
00:41:55.580 they have been in
00:41:56.360 for the last 30 years
00:41:57.940 everyone in the room
00:41:59.620 has deferred to them
00:42:00.700 and kissed their rear ends.
00:42:02.440 And you didn't have to be
00:42:04.440 the most sophisticated
00:42:05.640 analyst of human nature
00:42:07.280 to say
00:42:07.840 okay that's probably
00:42:09.380 not going to last
00:42:10.320 forever
00:42:10.840 as a harmonious
00:42:11.940 when they're both
00:42:12.700 used to being
00:42:13.780 the
00:42:15.040 a dog
00:42:17.560 yeah
00:42:17.980 that's going to end
00:42:20.220 I don't think
00:42:20.760 any of us envisioned
00:42:21.840 it would end
00:42:22.360 quite so
00:42:23.200 spectacularly
00:42:25.060 in a technicolor manner
00:42:26.300 I think most of us
00:42:28.180 figured okay
00:42:28.640 there'll come a point
00:42:29.300 where they say
00:42:29.800 all right let's just
00:42:30.540 go our separate ways
00:42:31.880 and do our things
00:42:32.980 and but
00:42:33.640 and the good news is
00:42:36.040 it got really ugly
00:42:37.040 and and by the way
00:42:38.900 I use the analogy
00:42:40.220 that I felt like
00:42:41.180 you know
00:42:41.540 the children
00:42:41.960 of divorced parents
00:42:42.840 saying I wish mommy
00:42:44.060 and daddy would
00:42:44.540 stop fighting
00:42:45.100 because it like
00:42:46.160 it was it was painful
00:42:47.640 because they're both
00:42:48.700 I admire them both
00:42:50.160 agree I'm same way
00:42:51.220 I've defended them
00:42:51.980 both on television
00:42:52.760 and the attacks
00:42:53.720 Elon faced
00:42:54.580 for the sin
00:42:55.660 of supporting a Republican
00:42:57.320 and choosing to do
00:42:58.160 public service
00:42:58.840 that was his only sin
00:43:00.000 and by the way
00:43:00.760 Elon demonstrates
00:43:01.780 the utter hypocrisy
00:43:03.160 of the left
00:43:03.680 so the left
00:43:04.960 for a decade
00:43:05.620 has been saying
00:43:06.500 that climate change
00:43:07.980 is destroying the world
00:43:09.080 and nothing matters more
00:43:10.540 we should
00:43:10.940 produce massive
00:43:12.500 human poverty
00:43:13.340 to stop
00:43:14.660 climate change
00:43:15.540 because if we don't
00:43:16.400 humanity will be extinct
00:43:17.460 that's been their talking
00:43:18.320 point for a decade
00:43:19.500 Sheldon Whitehouse
00:43:21.000 gives a damn speech
00:43:21.860 on the Senate floor
00:43:22.520 every single week
00:43:23.620 for years
00:43:24.980 I have presided
00:43:27.340 during those
00:43:28.120 they make your eyes
00:43:29.440 want to bleed
00:43:30.220 they're so bad
00:43:31.080 Elon Musk
00:43:33.300 has produced
00:43:34.380 more electric vehicles
00:43:36.380 than any human being
00:43:37.700 who has ever lived
00:43:38.840 like if you
00:43:39.680 actually believe
00:43:40.860 their rhetoric
00:43:41.380 about climate change
00:43:42.480 the left
00:43:44.160 should be carving
00:43:45.140 Elon's face
00:43:46.100 into Mount Rushmore
00:43:47.020 instead they were
00:43:48.920 firebombing
00:43:49.700 Tesla dealerships
00:43:50.380 causing actual damage
00:43:52.540 to the environment
00:43:53.200 because he supported
00:43:53.700 Trump
00:43:54.060 and who cares
00:43:54.960 like every word
00:43:56.160 they said about
00:43:56.780 climate change
00:43:57.600 was all garbage
00:43:58.680 if you support
00:43:59.740 Trump
00:44:00.160 you must be destroyed
00:44:02.140 and it demonstrated
00:44:03.860 the absolute hypocrisy
00:44:05.460 of the left
00:44:05.920 and I gotta say
00:44:07.220 Scott
00:44:07.480 I commend you
00:44:08.480 because you work
00:44:09.480 on CNN every day
00:44:10.560 you like
00:44:11.600 you swim
00:44:13.460 in that hypocrisy
00:44:14.740 and what you do
00:44:16.220 a nice job of doing
00:44:17.480 is you're not
00:44:18.380 mean or bitter
00:44:19.520 about it
00:44:20.040 you do it
00:44:20.660 with a slightly
00:44:21.400 bemused
00:44:22.320 you're full of crap
00:44:23.940 and look
00:44:25.380 if you were mean
00:44:26.200 and punching him
00:44:26.800 in the face
00:44:27.200 it wouldn't work
00:44:27.960 but you do it
00:44:29.000 more gently
00:44:29.720 and it is
00:44:30.620 devastating
00:44:31.240 and beautiful
00:44:32.240 these are the lessons
00:44:33.580 of President Reagan
00:44:34.520 we're all happy warriors
00:44:35.900 we argue best
00:44:37.160 when we argue
00:44:37.660 with a smile
00:44:38.140 on our face
00:44:38.760 and a little bit
00:44:39.320 of humor
00:44:39.680 and a little bit
00:44:40.320 of self-reflection
00:44:41.880 and I found
00:44:43.240 those debating
00:44:44.100 tactics to be
00:44:44.840 of great use
00:44:45.560 on CNN
00:44:46.060 I think we're
00:44:46.580 reaching people
00:44:47.180 I'll give you
00:44:47.500 one other reason
00:44:47.960 to buy this book
00:44:48.560 everybody has
00:44:49.360 a relative
00:44:50.640 that's like
00:44:51.200 totally lost
00:44:52.420 to Trump
00:44:52.840 derangement syndrome
00:44:53.560 I'll give you
00:44:53.980 a piece of advice
00:44:54.580 you buy this book
00:44:55.300 and wrap it up
00:44:55.840 and put it
00:44:56.200 under their Christmas tree
00:44:57.060 it'll be the most
00:44:58.120 memorable Christmas
00:44:58.800 you ever had
00:44:59.480 all right
00:44:59.940 so this
00:45:00.500 the book is
00:45:01.300 A Revolution
00:45:01.920 of Common Sense
00:45:02.820 How Donald Trump
00:45:03.600 Stormed Washington
00:45:04.480 and Fought for
00:45:05.740 Western Civilization
00:45:07.100 is by Scott Jennings
00:45:08.380 we are at the
00:45:10.180 beginning of December
00:45:10.920 Christmas time
00:45:11.620 is coming up
00:45:12.320 so I'm going to say
00:45:13.200 don't just buy one
00:45:14.160 buy two, three, four
00:45:15.380 buy it for your
00:45:16.160 crazy Uncle Joe
00:45:17.100 buy it for your kids
00:45:18.260 go buy the book
00:45:20.300 it is a great thing
00:45:22.120 I will say
00:45:22.940 it is almost as good
00:45:24.880 before Ben Ferguson
00:45:26.080 the great Ben Ferguson
00:45:27.240 the previous co-host
00:45:28.540 of my podcast
00:45:29.580 was Michael Knowles
00:45:30.580 his first book
00:45:32.600 was what is it
00:45:33.640 All the Wisdom
00:45:35.540 of the Democrats
00:45:36.240 I think is what
00:45:36.960 it was entitled
00:45:37.480 and the book
00:45:38.000 is blank
00:45:38.360 and it was
00:45:38.780 an empty book
00:45:39.680 the SOB
00:45:41.480 has made hundreds
00:45:42.580 of thousands
00:45:43.340 of dollars
00:45:43.920 selling a blank
00:45:45.320 book
00:45:46.120 empty book
00:45:46.940 genius
00:45:47.700 and he continues
00:45:48.460 to sell it
00:45:49.020 people go buy
00:45:49.740 Michael's book
00:45:50.200 every Christmas
00:45:50.860 every Christmas
00:45:52.080 Michael Knowles
00:45:52.820 gets a great check
00:45:53.780 and I'm proud
00:45:54.360 of that check
00:45:54.840 he gets
00:45:55.220 because people
00:45:55.980 buy it
00:45:56.440 for their crazy
00:45:57.200 kid
00:45:57.600 or their crazy
00:45:58.400 daughter's boyfriend
00:45:59.720 who's a woke
00:46:00.360 liberal out there
00:46:01.040 I love it
00:46:01.720 I will say
00:46:02.760 the last book
00:46:03.380 I wrote
00:46:03.820 I did inscribe
00:46:04.760 to Michael
00:46:06.220 on the blank
00:46:06.960 front page
00:46:08.180 I said I apologize
00:46:09.940 but I did plagiarize
00:46:11.320 this page
00:46:11.760 from your book
00:46:12.300 that's great
00:46:13.820 so buy Scott's book
00:46:16.100 buy multiple copies
00:46:17.220 grab the book
00:46:18.260 wherever you can
00:46:19.160 on Amazon
00:46:19.940 buy it for your
00:46:21.180 family friends
00:46:21.780 it's an awesome book
00:46:22.680 one thing I'll say
00:46:23.720 about the book
00:46:24.300 that I personally
00:46:25.180 think you're going
00:46:25.580 to really like
00:46:26.180 is the fact
00:46:27.080 that he talks
00:46:27.500 about the cabinet
00:46:28.060 members
00:46:28.420 and what they
00:46:30.160 had to say
00:46:30.660 I think it's
00:46:31.200 going to go down
00:46:31.640 in history
00:46:32.020 is the most
00:46:33.060 the biggest secret
00:46:33.740 weapon of Donald
00:46:34.360 Trump is going
00:46:35.000 to be this cabinet
00:46:35.900 and how they
00:46:36.920 work so well
00:46:37.720 with him
00:46:38.220 you get a lot
00:46:39.160 of what they
00:46:39.560 had to say
00:46:39.880 in the book
00:46:40.200 as well
00:46:40.560 because you
00:46:40.840 sat down
00:46:41.200 with those
00:46:41.440 cabinet members
00:46:41.980 Scott
00:46:42.240 I think that's
00:46:42.900 probably one
00:46:43.320 of the coolest
00:46:43.660 parts of the
00:46:44.200 aspect of this
00:46:44.760 book
00:46:44.980 so grab that
00:46:46.060 as well
00:46:46.400 that's a really
00:46:46.960 fun part
00:46:47.560 to read
00:46:47.980 and listen
00:46:48.420 for our
00:46:48.840 listeners
00:46:49.120 I will apologize
00:46:50.160 in the picture
00:46:51.160 section of the
00:46:51.920 book Scott
00:46:52.440 does include
00:46:53.120 naked pictures
00:46:53.780 of him in
00:46:54.200 Nantucket
00:46:54.720 I'm sorry
00:46:55.680 for that
00:46:56.240 but you know
00:46:57.020 look you got
00:46:57.440 to do what
00:46:57.760 you can
00:46:58.040 to sell a book
00:47:01.640 you for that
00:47:02.000 it was actually
00:47:02.460 quite amazing
00:47:03.080 all right
00:47:04.700 I want the
00:47:05.360 record to record
00:47:06.300 I've never
00:47:06.800 seen Scott
00:47:07.400 Jenny speechless
00:47:08.500 and I think
00:47:09.500 for at least
00:47:10.200 a half second
00:47:10.900 you were
00:47:11.260 yeah we took
00:47:12.000 those pictures
00:47:12.360 on a warm
00:47:12.820 day
00:47:13.140 just for the
00:47:14.740 record
00:47:14.960 I love it
00:47:16.060 what is that
00:47:17.720 out of Seinfeld
00:47:18.420 the water is
00:47:18.980 cold
00:47:19.360 it was cold
00:47:20.440 that's great
00:47:22.880 don't forget
00:47:24.540 we do this
00:47:25.080 podcast
00:47:25.600 Monday Wednesday
00:47:26.200 Friday
00:47:26.560 hit that
00:47:26.860 subscriber
00:47:27.320 auto download
00:47:27.900 button
00:47:28.300 grab Scott's
00:47:29.300 book
00:47:29.480 he also does
00:47:29.900 a great radio
00:47:30.460 show as well
00:47:31.000 on the
00:47:31.220 Salem network
00:47:31.740 so you can
00:47:32.120 listen to that
00:47:33.020 as well
00:47:33.420 and the
00:47:34.100 center
00:47:34.280 I will see
00:47:34.760 you back
00:47:35.260 here in a
00:47:35.920 couple of
00:47:36.220 days
00:47:36.520 this is an
00:47:38.260 iHeart podcast
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