Verdict with Ted Cruz - Extra： Daily Review with Clay and Buck - Jul 29 2025

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00:00:04.180 Clay, have you heard of the Rio Reset?

00:00:06.400 Sounds like a trendy new workout, Buck.

00:00:08.660 It does, but it's actually a big summit going on in Brazil.

00:00:11.620 The formal name is BRICS, which stands for Brazil, Russia, India, China, and South Africa.

00:00:16.500 But they've just added five new members.

00:00:18.680 Smart move to stick with BRICS. 1.00

00:00:20.540 We know what happens when acronyms don't end.

00:00:22.740 They confuse everyone.

00:00:23.940 Well, that's an understatement.

00:00:25.400 BRICS is a group of emerging economies

00:00:27.140 hoping to increase their sway in the global financial order.

00:00:30.260 Now that sounds like the plot line of a movie.

00:00:33.040 I'm listening.

00:00:34.020 Philip Patrick is our Bruce Wayne.

00:00:36.160 He's a precious metal specialist and a spokesman for the Birch Gold Group.

00:00:40.340 He's on the ground in Rio getting the whole lowdown on what's going on there.

00:00:44.580 Can he give us some inside intel?

00:00:46.380 Absolutely.

00:00:47.100 He's been there since day one.

00:00:49.000 In fact, a major theme at the summit is how BRICS nations aim to reduce reliance

00:00:53.100 on the U.S. dollar in global trade.

00:00:55.520 Yikes.

00:00:55.960 That doesn't sound good.

00:00:56.980 We got to get Philip on the line, stat.

00:00:59.240 Already did.

00:01:00.060 And he left the Clay and Buck audience this message.

00:01:03.220 The world is moving on from the dollar.

00:01:06.100 Quietly, but steadily.

00:01:08.140 These nations are making real progress towards reshaping global trade.

00:01:12.500 And the U.S. dollar is no longer the centerpiece.

00:01:15.820 That shift doesn't happen overnight.

00:01:18.740 But make no mistake, it's already begun.

00:01:21.380 Thank you, Philip.

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00:01:48.280 Welcome back in or welcome in.

00:01:50.460 We hope you're always hanging out with us here on the Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show.

00:01:55.000 We have got a lot to dive into, a variety of different stories continuing to percolate out there.

00:02:01.760 Sean Davis of the Federalist is going to join us top of the next hour.

00:02:04.820 And then Mark Levin has a brand new book out.

00:02:07.900 Many of you watch him on Fox News with Sean Hannity regularly.

00:02:11.100 He'll be with us in the third hour of the program.

00:02:15.560 But yesterday, not far from our New York City studios for iHeart, where Buck broadcast for

00:02:23.140 a very long time and where I have been and use those studios and where our crew is that

00:02:28.940 you hear us talking with all the time, there was a shooting about 6.30 p.m. Eastern.

00:02:33.640 It appears that the shooter was in some way targeting the NFL, according to a three-page letter

00:02:42.640 that was allegedly left on the scene.

00:02:45.800 I have not seen that full letter excerpted, but a former high school player of football

00:02:52.960 drove all the way from Las Vegas to New York City, went to the league offices in Midtown Manhattan,

00:03:01.460 that is the NFL, and reports are that he then got on the elevator and went to the wrong floor.

00:03:08.540 Four innocent people killed, including a police officer who was working as a security guard

00:03:14.320 and several other innocent people.

00:03:17.800 And then this individual shot himself in the heart with his gun and said,

00:03:22.480 study my brain for CTE.

00:03:24.520 That is the report that is out there.

00:03:27.700 Now, you would maybe be a little bit surprised over who exactly the shooter was if you were

00:03:35.560 watching CNN and they decided to say during the course of their coverage that the shooter

00:03:42.440 was possibly white.

00:03:44.720 This is cut nine.

00:03:46.960 Listen to this.

00:03:47.600 Was his face visible?

00:03:48.760 I mean, do they have any idea at this point who he is?

00:03:52.320 They do not know who he is.

00:03:55.560 They know he is a male, possibly white.

00:04:00.640 He's wearing sunglasses.

00:04:02.340 He appears to have a mustache.

00:04:03.800 And that picture has been distributed to every police officer in New York City.

00:04:10.640 Okay.

00:04:11.500 Buck, you used to react to live incidents such as these on CNN.

00:04:16.580 The picture of the guy, and we try to avoid saying the names of mass shooters because there's

00:04:22.480 evidence that it encourages their behavior.

00:04:25.040 Picture of the guy.

00:04:26.680 He is clearly not white.

00:04:28.780 So as like, let's start here as a real time breaking news analyst. 0.93

00:04:34.360 How can you explain this in any way other than this is CNN, white people are to blame for 0.51

00:04:43.020 everything?

00:04:43.640 Would you, I mean, is, am I drawing too much conclusion here based on the picture?

00:04:48.040 When I looked at it, I'm like, that is not a possibly white man. 0.59

00:04:51.360 I will just say.

00:04:52.560 You have to think, what does possibly white even mean?

00:04:56.480 Yeah.

00:04:56.720 You would think either probably white or not white.

00:05:01.520 I don't think that possibly white would be a phrase that would come to mind.

00:05:05.460 But I think that CNN in their breaking news coverage, especially that there's a playbook

00:05:11.140 that they run in their news coverage of any horrific mass shooting.

00:05:15.760 And it's either get this story out as fast, get the details about the shooter out as fast

00:05:22.420 as possible, and then transition rapidly into scoring political points, right?

00:05:28.080 So, oh, he's white. 0.85

00:05:29.240 This is, this is, this is Trump's fault. 0.54

00:05:31.560 This is MAGA.

00:05:32.620 This is white supremacy, right? 0.78

00:05:34.120 That's, um, and, and if he's white and used a gun as in the, uh, then it's white guy,

00:05:39.920 gun control, MAGA, second amendment.

00:05:41.980 There's all these things that they will immediately jump, even if it's going to be wrong and, and

00:05:48.560 clearly, uh, a jump to conclusions moment for them, they want to jump to the conclusion.

00:05:53.140 They're looking for the opportunity to jump to the conclusion.

00:05:55.340 Whereas on the other side, if it is a nonwhite male and does not have a motive that immediately 0.97

00:06:00.620 can be ascribed to him that fits in an anti right wing, particularly a white supremacist

00:06:06.940 or anti-Trump, uh, rubric, then you got to just say, we may never know the motive.

00:06:12.860 We don't know what's going on here.

00:06:14.940 Let's not rush to anything.

00:06:16.740 And this is just what they do because this is really their worldview and their politics

00:06:21.940 on display every time an incident like, like this happens.

00:06:24.760 So, I mean, we can, and we can walk through the specifics of this and I think it's worth

00:06:29.140 just looking at the layers of security and what happened here.

00:06:31.560 Um, but I can tell everybody, I think the security conclusion that most people would come to

00:06:37.080 for what happened here is you can't stop some maniac who has access to a gun from going

00:06:42.340 in and shooting people.

00:06:43.160 You can try to make it harder for that to happen.

00:06:46.360 But this case, you had an armed NYPD officer who unfortunately was killed in the line of duty

00:06:51.900 here, uh, tragically leave left behind a wife and children.

00:06:55.340 Uh, but he was their sons, twin sons, buck, and an eight month pregnant wife.

00:07:00.280 That is the New York city police officer who was shot.

00:07:02.960 But my understanding is he was shot in the back in the lobby.

00:07:06.720 So it doesn't matter who you are.

00:07:08.920 If you were in a civilian area, you're a cop and someone comes up and shoots you in the

00:07:12.340 back.

00:07:12.640 There's nothing, you know, there's, there's no way that you're going to be able to, uh,

00:07:17.820 to, to stop that threat unless you get eyes on this person in advance and, and are able

00:07:22.300 to draw down before they can, they can, they can hit you.

00:07:25.660 Uh, so there wasn't really a lot here from a security perspective.

00:07:29.140 I think the bigger conversation immediately is that this guy had a couple of, uh, mental

00:07:33.560 health flags and, you know, mental health, just like a whole, a whole bunch of public

00:07:38.600 policy issues runs a huge spectrum, right?

00:07:40.940 There are tens of millions of people in America who have some mental health challenge.

00:07:45.040 And I think you could argue that everybody has some level of mental health challenge

00:07:47.980 at different times in their lives.

00:07:49.640 Grieving with loss of a spouse or a loved one, you know, you're a horrific accident, you

00:07:54.620 got trauma. 0.97

00:07:55.120 I mean, there's, we're talking about somebody who's nuts. 0.99

00:07:57.880 Okay. 1.00

00:07:58.180 This guy is crazy, clearly insane and a danger to himself and others. 1.00

00:08:04.420 And we live in a country. 1.00

00:08:06.060 Now we live in a society where thanks to leftist maniacs, like the ACLU who want to kick at

00:08:11.900 the load bearing walls of our civilization and see what happens. 0.95

00:08:14.800 You basically can't lock up anybody anymore for being a complete, uh, wacko who's a danger 1.00

00:08:21.420 to himself and others.

00:08:22.260 It is almost impossible anywhere to get that done.

00:08:24.780 We have emptied out all the asylums and you get people, this guy's angry at the NFL, never

00:08:29.380 played in the NFL.

00:08:30.560 Yeah.

00:08:31.120 Played high school.

00:08:31.720 Has nothing to do with the NFL.

00:08:33.020 Has no connection to it at all.

00:08:35.220 I also think this is significant in New York city because one of the biggest elections we're

00:08:39.620 going to have this fall is the New York city mayor's race.

00:08:43.320 And guess where mom, Donnie, the lead New York city mayoral candidate for the Democrat

00:08:48.900 party, their nominee is at a Ugandan compound right now because he was born and raised in

00:08:56.440 his youth in Uganda.

00:08:58.600 He has surrounded himself in Uganda with private security.

00:09:03.460 This is a guy who said that cops were basically unnecessary and that we should have, uh, counselors,

00:09:13.140 domestic counselors or social workers who are showing up at scenes of violence and trying

00:09:19.220 to negotiate with the would be perpetrator, including domestic violence incidents, which

00:09:24.780 unfortunately often spiral into incredible danger, uh, for the usually women who are calling

00:09:31.780 to report domestic violence related incidents.

00:09:34.680 And so I do think that it is yet another staggering hypocrisy that the guy who thinks, Hey, social

00:09:43.000 workers should be called to solve problems in New York city has his own private security

00:09:48.740 detail, which is very armed surrounding and protecting him on his Ugandan compound, uh, which

00:09:56.300 is where he is right now while this incident is playing out.

00:09:59.280 So I think New Yorkers, uh, again, I have said that I think that Republicans and reasonable 0.99

00:10:07.960 people should not necessarily save New Yorkers from the idiocy of their choices. 0.98

00:10:12.620 The consequences of their selection of a nominee is real. 0.99

00:10:16.980 And the fact that you pick a guy who was not an American citizen until 2018, a guy who was

00:10:21.560 born in Uganda and basically a card carrying member of the communist party to represent the

00:10:27.960 biggest city in America seems like a really poor choice, but it's the choice Democrats have

00:10:31.860 made.

00:10:32.240 But this guy, to me, this incident crystallizes.

00:10:37.440 I would also point out, this is you, you lived in this area.

00:10:41.680 This is two major, I would say violent attacks that have happened in midtown Manhattan.

00:10:47.920 I know Luigi Mangione, who everybody's kind of forgotten about now executed in cold blood.

00:10:54.000 The, uh, the, uh, United healthcare CEO on the streets of Manhattan.

00:10:59.340 And now you have this guy driving all the way from Las Vegas, walking in and trying to 0.75

00:11:04.060 kill as many people as he possibly can.

00:11:06.440 Um, this is, uh, I, I gets a lot of attention. 0.98

00:11:10.020 I understand because New York city related events are covered more than shootings that happen

00:11:14.040 elsewhere.

00:11:14.380 But I do think this is where people sit around and say, okay, what's going on with New York

00:11:19.780 city?

00:11:20.140 Uh, can we in any way keep the street safe?

00:11:23.480 Even midtown Manhattan, which is ostensibly supposed to be a very safe part of Manhattan.

00:11:27.380 Well, where this happened, it's in a building where the, the Blackstone group, which is one

00:11:32.400 of the most, uh, well-known private equity firms in the world, uh, is located.

00:11:37.800 The NFL headquarters obviously is there, uh, as well.

00:11:40.880 And you have a lot of people, it's something of a, of a crossroads.

00:11:45.400 You have a lot of people who they think of wall street as down on wall street.

00:11:49.300 That's actually original wall street is more of a, of a tourist area.

00:11:53.320 Now, uh, there's not that much in the way of finance.

00:11:56.020 Most of the big finance shops are, are in midtown actually, uh, either on the West side

00:12:01.820 or the East side, but right where this is, there's a number of very large financial institutions

00:12:06.280 that are headquartered there.

00:12:07.200 So you just have a huge number of people clay in these office towers coming and going 0.96

00:12:12.100 all the time.

00:12:12.540 I have a cousin who is, who missed this shooting in terms of being on that street by 10 minutes.

00:12:17.780 Uh, I have another, my cousin's husband works at Blackstone.

00:12:21.740 So, you know, a lot of New Yorkers, no people, uh, by maybe a degree or two of separation,

00:12:27.440 no people who are right there, uh, at this building.

00:12:31.560 I mean, if you think of this is not an office tower, like it is, you know, like a standard,

00:12:36.180 this is a big, big, uh, building, a lot of people, um, and a lot of people coming and

00:12:41.500 going from this area.

00:12:42.460 It's also a place where you see very little crime.

00:12:44.420 There tends to be a pretty heavy police presence.

00:12:46.000 And the fact there was an NYPD officer in the, uh, lobby, it just goes to show you that,

00:12:52.020 I mean, they, they had, I mean, they had that, they had secure entry.

00:12:55.400 They, you know, they had procedures and precautions in place, but if somebody with a rifle who

00:13:00.720 knows how to use it, doesn't care if they live or die and wants to go shoot a bunch of 0.53

00:13:04.360 people in a civilian area, it's a soft target.

00:13:07.640 It's going to be very, very difficult to, uh, to stop that certainly every time or even

00:13:13.840 a majority of the times.

00:13:15.460 So I don't think that there's really much in the way of a security takeaway.

00:13:18.440 I do think there's a bigger conversation in terms of what could have been done differently.

00:13:22.020 I haven't seen anything yet.

00:13:24.020 Um, it's not like the police response was super delayed or slow.

00:13:27.560 It's not that there wasn't anyone there.

00:13:29.080 There was a good guy with a gun there.

00:13:30.720 This guy, uh, got the drop on him, uh, and then killed a bunch of other people.

00:13:34.960 Didn't kill a woman who came out of the elevator, kind of let her go on video. 0.99

00:13:38.400 So this guy's a maniac. 0.91

00:13:40.700 And now we'll look back and we'll see how, how known was it that he was a maniac, but I 0.92

00:13:47.100 don't think, Clay, there are any, there are any takeaways from this about what would

00:13:51.420 make people in New York city safer other than this is, uh, it's like a horrible, it's just

00:13:58.520 a horrible situation that took lives for no reason.

00:14:02.100 And I don't think that there's anything that we can do to prevent bad people in society

00:14:05.800 from killing people. 0.59

00:14:06.600 Unfortunately, you can try.

00:14:08.400 I'm saying all the time, right?

00:14:09.880 I mean, yeah, yes.

00:14:11.000 Have the arm, the good guy there.

00:14:12.360 Yes.

00:14:12.620 Have the security precautions.

00:14:13.520 And I'm sure that stops things.

00:14:15.500 Look at the, you just, we just talked about the good guy with the gun, stopping the mass

00:14:18.760 stabbing from continuing in Walmart.

00:14:21.120 But he couldn't save everybody from being stabbed, right?

00:14:23.460 So it's, this situation is, is a very difficult one, uh, to defend against.

00:14:28.480 That's, that's, I think one of the big, uh, one of the big recognitions that we have on

00:14:32.420 this.

00:14:32.680 We'll talk more about this also.

00:14:33.840 Um, uh, I saw Clay, they were, there's, there's been more discussion of it, including

00:14:39.080 from, uh, the, the media.

00:14:42.060 And then there's media discussion of that attack in Cincinnati.

00:14:45.620 We talked about the stabbing, but there was attack, the, the attack in Cincinnati, the

00:14:49.440 police chief has weighed in on this.

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00:16:32.460 So we've had the, we had that mass shooting in New York City.

00:16:35.360 We gave you the details of the shooter, killed himself, four people, he killed four people,

00:16:40.520 including an NYPD officer, ran into a building, completely senseless, insane, horrific murders.

00:16:47.360 And the guy I think you'll find out was, I don't know what, I don't know what the diagnosis

00:16:51.560 would be of somebody, you know, the proper medical diagnosis.

00:16:54.460 I don't know if it's a, you know, an extreme schizophrenic or something, but the guy has

00:16:59.240 clearly some very serious mental, had serious mental health issues.

00:17:02.800 Uh, there's also this Cincinnati attack that has gotten a lot of attention.

00:17:07.640 We talked about it yesterday and the Cincinnati chief of police, whom I have to say, just

00:17:14.600 listening to her, looking at her, this shouldn't be your chief of police, Cincinnati.

00:17:20.140 Okay.

00:17:20.880 Just going to be honest with you about this right now.

00:17:23.200 The chief of police should be somebody who has some degree of, of gravitas, commands

00:17:29.480 some respect, has some, seems competent.

00:17:32.180 It should not be somebody who you think would be at a loss, like in some store selling wind

00:17:39.800 chimes somewhere and incense or something.

00:17:41.780 I mean, this woman strikes me as a, as a huge lib. 1.00

00:17:44.360 Start with that.

00:17:45.800 Here she is dressing down the media for their coverage of the video that we all saw.

00:17:53.860 Play 15.

00:17:54.380 The post that we've seen does not depict the entire incident.

00:17:59.680 That is one version of what occurred.

00:18:03.520 Because what happens, that social media post and your coverage of it distorts the content

00:18:10.000 of what actually happened.

00:18:12.040 And it makes our job more difficult.

00:18:13.860 The irresponsibility with social media is it just shows one side of the equation quite

00:18:20.800 frequently without context, without factual context.

00:18:26.080 And then people run with that.

00:18:28.620 And then it grows legs and it becomes something bigger that we then have to try to manage as

00:18:36.120 part of the investigation.

00:18:38.060 Okay.

00:18:39.060 She also said nothing, Clay, to tell us, okay, well, what else happened that we need to know

00:18:42.920 about?

00:18:43.360 Well, I mean, my question for you and for everybody out there listening is I watched the

00:18:48.400 video and I agree context matters oftentimes in video.

00:18:53.160 What could occur short of that guy deciding to run and just start to attack 10 different

00:19:00.660 people, right, with a knife or a gun that would suggest, hey, a mob of people should beat a guy 0.96

00:19:09.860 and stomp him on the ground and knock out his girlfriend? 1.00

00:19:15.940 Like, what could happen?

00:19:17.980 Like, this is, I don't know if there was a follow-up question from the media, but the question

00:19:22.180 that you're asking is the right one.

00:19:24.340 It is, okay, what is the context that in some way would provide self-defense to allow what

00:19:31.620 took place in the video that went viral to not be representative of that?

00:19:37.020 Do we think that this guy had a knife?

00:19:39.420 Do we think he had a gun?

00:19:40.400 Do we think he attacked 20 different people and they all felt compelled to simultaneously

00:19:45.380 defend themselves?

00:19:46.400 If you see the comments and you, if you see the comments online, this hasn't been said

00:19:50.660 by any official, but there's this insinuation from commenters, some of whom are pretending

00:19:55.940 maybe they have some inside knowledge that, uh, that maybe a slur was used.

00:20:01.840 And the, the whole thing here is, well, if that happened, that changes.

00:20:06.320 It actually doesn't.

00:20:07.660 It actually doesn't matter what word someone calls you.

00:20:09.860 You're not allowed to mob stomp them into the cement when they're defenseless.

00:20:14.380 And this is maybe where the, uh, the debate might go.

00:20:17.300 If we find out more details.

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00:21:09.940 We're joined by our friend, Sean Davis, CEO and co-founder of the federalist.

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00:21:27.100 Great work there, including what we're about to talk about.

00:21:29.120 Sean, thanks for taking a break from what you're doing to chat with us.

00:21:33.380 What's going on?

00:21:34.520 Well, thanks for having me back.

00:21:35.720 It's a pleasure.

00:21:37.320 Let's dive into this, man, shall we?

00:21:38.780 Because so D and I, Gabbard, I sat down with her and we had a discussion in D.C.

00:21:45.560 about a month, month ago about a lot of things.

00:21:48.300 And certainly one of her mandates is to clean up the deep state mess that was, well, really 0.99

00:21:55.260 the rock that spread from the top down in places like the CIA.

00:22:00.480 She has released information about the soft coup attempt, or like she said, the nonviolent

00:22:07.440 coup attempt, maybe a better way to put it, against Donald Trump.

00:22:10.860 You are following this very closely now.

00:22:12.860 You and Molly Hemingway, your colleague at the Federalist, have been on this for a decade

00:22:16.860 now.

00:22:17.280 So what is new and important that has come out?

00:22:21.180 We're going to walk everyone through this because the rest of the media, obviously, they

00:22:24.640 were in on the collusion, right?

00:22:26.220 I mean, they were in on the whole hoax, the fraud.

00:22:28.760 What is new that people need to know about now?

00:22:32.060 So I think to understand the importance of the new developments, I think it's important

00:22:36.280 to take a step back and look at what they were trying to do with the Russia collusion hoax

00:22:43.260 back in 16 and 17 and 18.

00:22:45.520 And there were two main pillars of that entire hoax.

00:22:49.780 One of them was that Donald Trump personally colluded with Russia and Putin to steal the

00:22:56.260 election from Hillary, that he was an agent of Russia and that he was working with them.

00:23:00.600 That was the whole Steele dossier.

00:23:02.580 That was the bulk of the Mueller thing.

00:23:04.420 We know that was bunk.

00:23:05.540 We've known that was bunk for a long time.

00:23:07.740 But before they could even get to that phase of the operation, they had the first point,

00:23:13.360 which was the claim that Russia meddled in our election in 2016 for the purpose of helping

00:23:19.520 Donald Trump because Putin wanted Trump to win.

00:23:22.200 That was injected into the bloodstream, and that was necessary to be there for people to

00:23:25.980 believe that Trump colluded.

00:23:28.480 But what we learned last week from the document releases from Tulsi Gabbard is that that claim

00:23:34.540 was a lie.

00:23:35.960 The CIA knew it was a lie.

00:23:39.120 Obama and Brennan and Comey were all told it was a lie from their own experts, and they

00:23:45.440 went ahead with it anyway.

00:23:47.140 They cooked the books.

00:23:48.140 They fabricated evidence.

00:23:49.320 They explored the experts.

00:23:50.340 They put out this bogus intel community assessment claiming that Russia had interfered for the

00:23:55.680 purpose of helping Donald Trump win, and that was a lie.

00:23:59.520 All right, Sean, thanks for coming on with us.

00:24:03.140 Thanks for also sharing a great hometown or a family town right now.

00:24:08.600 I'm sure you saw that the state of Tennessee, according to CNBC, was the worst place in

00:24:13.580 America to live.

00:24:14.480 And I think I speak for everyone out there when I say, yeah, you're right.

00:24:17.180 It's awful.

00:24:17.840 Please don't come here.

00:24:18.680 But you're running the Federalist, and I bet you get asked this question a lot, and it's

00:24:24.820 the number one question I get asked as it regards to this story.

00:24:29.600 Let's pretend you had a magic wand and you were able to dictate policy from this point

00:24:36.060 going forward as it pertains to what happened with Russia.

00:24:38.880 What should happen in your mind if you had that magic wand and you were able to direct

00:24:45.840 policy?

00:24:46.880 What do you think will happen?

00:24:49.140 What is the significance, in other words, going forward, not looking back, looking forward

00:24:54.100 prospectively as to what should happen and what will happen here?

00:24:58.720 So I think two things.

00:24:59.880 If I could wave a magic wand, I'd make two things happen.

00:25:02.760 Number one, Comey, Brennan, Clapper, McCabe, and Strzok would all go to prison because somebody

00:25:08.640 has to pay a price for the crimes they perpetrated against the country.

00:25:11.920 At minimum, they would be charged with a crime if you were able.

00:25:16.020 Okay, that is a concrete action.

00:25:17.660 That's good.

00:25:18.460 Okay, what else?

00:25:19.780 And then the second, so we're going to put that in kind of the law enforcement accountability

00:25:24.000 for the fraud bucket.

00:25:26.680 The other bucket is we have to make sure that something like this never happens again.

00:25:30.600 And there was actually a recommendation, which was a really good one in the document that

00:25:34.280 came out last week, which was a declassified, hipsy report and investigation of the ICA and

00:25:40.760 then recommendations on what to do with it.

00:25:43.120 And I think this business where you had these political appointees going in and cooking the

00:25:50.000 books and saying, you know, we don't care if you don't think it's true.

00:25:53.000 Recall that John Brennan said of the Steele dossier accusations, when told they were not

00:25:58.200 true and not corroborated, but don't they ring true?

00:26:01.280 There has to be a way to remove that type of political corruption from the process.

00:26:07.840 And it's interesting, for a long time, we kind of were led to believe that all the experts

00:26:12.380 agreed on the ICA, that they all agreed that Russia was doing this to help Trump.

00:26:16.740 And the reality that we learned was that the experts were saying, no, that's not true.

00:26:21.020 And it was the Democrat political appointees who demanded that it go in and be released.

00:26:26.460 So what would you like to see now from the DNI in terms of either further transparency and

00:26:34.380 or actions from within the IC, the intelligence community, Sean, to to deal with this at those

00:26:40.920 levels, right?

00:26:41.300 There's the accountability and there's preventing this from happening in the future.

00:26:45.660 What what do you think we should see from DNI, Gabbard and DCIA Ratcliffe, the director

00:26:52.100 of central intelligence to get to those two goals?

00:26:56.460 Well, I think they've done a great job so far.

00:26:59.860 You know, Ratcliffe, to my understanding, was trying to get these documents out back in

00:27:04.840 2020, even before the election, and was stymied by then CIA director Gina Haspel, who it's

00:27:11.940 interesting.

00:27:12.320 She was running London's office as the station chief back when some of the original, you know,

00:27:19.280 hoax intel that became the basis of Crossfire Hurricane came through the London embassy.

00:27:24.460 Um, I would like to know more about her role.

00:27:27.620 I would like to know all the intel that was used.

00:27:30.020 I would like to know all of the people who touched the lies, who signed the affidavits

00:27:34.120 for the FISA warrants.

00:27:35.460 I think we need complete and total transparency and openness about every single aspect of how

00:27:41.540 that hoax was run from the beginning.

00:27:43.460 And luckily, so far, it seems like Ratcliffe and Gabbard are on the same page there.

00:27:49.180 I'm thankful that they have been as forthright as they have been.

00:27:51.840 But also, the Obama factor in all this, you know, the names that you're talking about

00:27:57.140 here, Sean, Brennan, Clapper, right?

00:27:59.480 Clapper was the director of national intelligence.

00:28:01.240 Brenner was the director of central intelligence.

00:28:03.020 Brennan had been Obama's counterterrorism czar in the White House previously.

00:28:07.300 Obama, though, is very clearly implicated in this, too.

00:28:13.500 Now, Clay and I have talked about how he was the president.

00:28:15.980 The Supreme Court's weighed in.

00:28:17.200 He's not going to face charges.

00:28:18.600 But I do think it's important for people to understand that this wasn't the IC independent

00:28:24.180 of the White House under the Obama administration.

00:28:27.380 The collusion included the collusion of Obama and his top people in the IC to try to essentially

00:28:36.000 hobble the Trump administration.

00:28:39.320 Yeah, and I think that's a tricky one.

00:28:42.440 You know, number one, we had the kind of presidential immunity thing.

00:28:45.900 Obviously, a president can't go out and, like, pop someone in the head and be like, I can 0.93

00:28:49.620 kill whoever I want. 1.00

00:28:50.480 I'm president. 1.00

00:28:51.160 There's limits to it, clearly.

00:28:52.320 But the Supreme Court has ruled that the president has a wide latitude to execute the authorities

00:28:59.280 of his office.

00:29:01.280 I actually wonder, in looking what happened, if there is a better case to be – given

00:29:07.520 that Obama's probably not going to get hauled into a court and have cuffs slammed on him,

00:29:11.440 might it be better to look at what Brennan and Comey and Clapper did and the things they

00:29:17.640 did in response to Obama saying get all the intel?

00:29:19.760 Well, might it be a better option to look at what they did and say, you know what, they

00:29:24.020 actually defrauded Obama.

00:29:25.960 He told them to get this info with the expectation that what he was going to be given was accurate,

00:29:30.140 and instead they all got together and colluded and conspired to give him bogus intel and

00:29:35.560 to defraud not just the American people but the commander-in-chief and president of the

00:29:39.640 United States as well.

00:29:40.840 I wonder if that might be a better tack to take going forward.

00:29:45.040 I think that's a super interesting idea.

00:29:47.000 We're talking to Sean Davis.

00:29:47.900 You can check him out at The Federalist.

00:29:49.940 He does great work there.

00:29:51.520 Okay.

00:29:51.880 I mentioned, if you had the magic wand, a lot of this audience, and I would put myself

00:29:58.120 in this category, is very skeptical that anybody in a position of power in the Democrat

00:30:04.080 Party is ever going to be held accountable for anything that they have ever done.

00:30:09.980 And I think this is where a lot of the frustration, Epstein, everything else comes.

00:30:13.960 You, our grandma who walked in the Capitol Jan 6th, Merrick Garland, the Biden DOJ, I mean,

00:30:21.080 they will maniacally focus on it to the extent that they're going to do a pre-morning raid

00:30:26.400 to arrest you for trespass on that day.

00:30:29.800 Meanwhile, you got all these different alleged crimes being committed by people in positions

00:30:34.400 of power on the left in the Democrat Party.

00:30:36.740 What do you think the chances are, if you were handicapping right now, Sean, that there

00:30:41.760 will actually be charges brought?

00:30:43.980 I'm not even talking about convictions.

00:30:45.560 I'm just talking about charges brought against any of these individuals related to what they

00:30:50.780 did surrounding the Russia collusion lie.

00:30:55.020 That's a hard question because, you know, I'm not involved, obviously, in like the internal

00:30:59.460 discussions about those types of charges.

00:31:01.320 I think they're far better now than they ever have been, just kind of reading between

00:31:06.560 the lines of things we've seen and heard from Ratcliffe, from Gabbard, from Bondi.

00:31:11.500 Bondi forming these DOJ task forces to go after the Russia hoaxers, as opposed to doing a special

00:31:19.040 council, I think is a really good idea.

00:31:21.300 These task forces have traditionally been used by the federal government to get cooperations

00:31:26.000 from all the various agencies and were a major tool used against the mob, against racketeering,

00:31:31.560 against organized crime early on, which is something you have to kind of look at.

00:31:36.380 You have to look at an organized conspiracy in order to get around a lot of these statute

00:31:40.400 of limitations that you have.

00:31:43.140 But I think it's important to look at what happened to like J6ers. 1.00

00:31:47.020 These were people who were put through the wringer.

00:31:49.240 They were bankrupted.

00:31:50.540 Their families were terrorized.

00:31:51.980 They were eventually pardoned.

00:31:53.300 So why is the right not putting the left and the people who've done far, far worse things

00:31:58.760 to this country and committed far greater crimes, why are they not subjecting them to the same

00:32:03.420 punishment by process that the left is doing?

00:32:05.900 Because if anyone has ever been involved in any sort of lawsuit, criminal or civil, they'll

00:32:10.500 tell you it's awful.

00:32:11.740 It's miserable.

00:32:12.480 It saps you of all types of energy and focus.

00:32:15.100 And what I don't understand is why is Congress in their oversight committee not doing the exact

00:32:20.340 same things to the left?

00:32:21.400 Why is DOJ not doing the exact same thing to the left that they did to our side for eight

00:32:25.540 years?

00:32:25.920 Because I do think the process is the punishment.

00:32:28.540 And our side was terrorized by the process for eight years.

00:32:31.700 And it's about time the other side gets a turn in the barrel if we're ever going to get to

00:32:35.420 a point where people decide we can't do this anymore.

00:32:38.900 Last question for you.

00:32:40.060 A little bit quick here, maybe on the answer.

00:32:41.760 And I know it's not a topic that necessarily lends itself to a rapid answer.

00:32:45.980 If the Trump team were listening right now, and I think there's probably a decent chance

00:32:50.100 that some of them are, what advice would you give them on what they should do for the Epstein

00:32:54.780 controversy at this point?

00:32:57.780 Oh, man.

00:32:59.420 Yeah, 30 seconds.

00:33:01.880 Yeah, I wish they would just release everything.

00:33:05.200 I get why that is difficult.

00:33:07.440 They've got an appeal with Ghislaine Maxwell going on now.

00:33:09.960 There's a lot of victim rights stuff.

00:33:11.300 I wish they would release everything.

00:33:13.720 And if the conclusions are different than what people are expecting, walk us through

00:33:17.720 why that is, what they looked at.

00:33:19.580 I just think openness and transparency is the most important antidote here.

00:33:23.980 And I think it got oversold very early on by some people in the administration, and

00:33:28.580 that caused them a lot of problems.

00:33:30.160 And they're now having to take themselves out from that.

00:33:33.640 I know I said last question, but I'm actually curious.

00:33:36.040 You run a digital media site.

00:33:38.100 I sold one several years ago.

00:33:40.020 Can you tell a difference in the ad market in Trump 2.0 compared to Trump 1.0?

00:33:45.940 Does it feel fair to you based on the business that you run?

00:33:50.580 It doesn't to me.

00:33:52.100 We were targeted for extinction by the Biden admin and the entire left-wing censorship industrial

00:33:57.600 complex.

00:33:58.600 They tried to get us blacklisted from Google, from Facebook.

00:34:01.800 They went after all the major ad players, got us blacklisted there.

00:34:04.880 So I'd say, no, we have not seen any difference yet.

00:34:09.180 But it's because of the damage that was done to us by our own government and our own tax

00:34:14.480 dollars illegally was pretty significant.

00:34:18.940 And so I haven't seen a big change in the ad market yet, at least for us.

00:34:21.880 That's something we should have a longer-form discussion about sometime, Sean Davis, the

00:34:26.060 Federalist, because I do think that's a story that a lot of people don't understand, how

00:34:30.220 aggressively the Biden team went after digital truth-tellers, in my opinion, to try to bankrupt

00:34:36.780 them.

00:34:37.720 And most of that story really hasn't been told to a large degree.

00:34:41.660 Appreciate the time, Sean.

00:34:43.220 Thank you both.

00:34:43.920 Take care.

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00:37:04.600 Something that you may have never heard me say in four years on this show.

00:37:09.420 I am going to give some praise to the New York Times.

00:37:13.220 The Sunday, I swear, I'm an old man, so for those of you watching me on video,

00:37:18.160 I am holding my copy of the Sunday print edition of the New York Times.

00:37:24.900 And there is an article in there by someone named Daniel Martinez Hosong.

00:37:28.900 Hosong, and I probably have not pronounced all of that name correct.

00:37:32.340 I'm pretty good about Daniel Martinez.

00:37:34.440 No idea how Hosong is supposed to be pronounced.

00:37:37.100 But his article is entitled, Inside the Rise of the Multiracial Right.

00:37:43.820 And it goes into how white, black, Asian, and Hispanic voters have overwhelmingly moved in the direction of Trump.

00:37:53.600 And to their credit, they have interviews with black voters in Milwaukee, Asian voters in San Francisco,

00:38:01.980 and Hispanic voters on the border in Texas, all of them used to vote Democrat,

00:38:10.180 and they now have moved on to vote for Trump and be supportive of him.

00:38:16.620 And I was thinking about this when the Wall Street Journal, also over the weekend,

00:38:24.360 had a big piece analyzing larger political trends and issues,

00:38:30.900 and they found the Democrat Party to be the least popular in the history of their poll, 35-year low.

00:38:40.760 And I was thinking about that, the rise of black, Hispanic, and Asian Trump voters.

00:38:46.860 I bet a lot of you are out there listening who certainly were not Trump voters in 2016,

00:38:52.520 of a variety of different backgrounds, but were by 2024.

00:38:56.140 And I was thinking about how, to a large extent, I think it just comes down to authenticity.

00:39:03.440 And Mayor Pete, who we talked about, actually has 0% support among black voters.

00:39:10.640 0%.

00:39:11.560 Was interviewed recently, and he was asked a very straightforward question.

00:39:16.800 And to me, this is why Democrats have lost men,

00:39:20.720 and have lost a lot of Asian, black, and Hispanic support.

00:39:24.300 They can't answer questions honestly.

00:39:27.440 And I want you to listen to this.

00:39:29.260 Mayor Pete has asked a very simple question.

00:39:32.140 Should men be allowed to compete in women's sports? 0.99

00:39:35.920 I want you to listen to his answer.

00:39:38.600 Play, I believe it's cut 26.

00:39:40.600 When President Trump says something like,

00:39:42.500 no boys and girls sports, which is a phrase that they use,

00:39:44.760 it sounds like you're not signing on to that.

00:39:46.360 I think that chess is different from weightlifting,

00:39:49.100 and weightlifting is different from volleyball,

00:39:51.060 and middle school is different from the Olympics.

00:39:54.340 So that's exactly why I think that we shouldn't be grandstanding on this as politicians.

00:40:00.080 We should be empowering communities and organizations and schools to make the right decisions.

00:40:05.120 Keep it going, Pete.

00:40:06.360 I love it.

00:40:06.840 Keep speaking nonsense.

00:40:08.740 Keep telling people things that make them immediately think,

00:40:11.760 you can't answer a straightforward question,

00:40:14.700 you dance in circles because you think you're smarter than all of us,

00:40:18.320 and you are not, how about starting with,

00:40:22.080 I think chess is different than weightlifting.

00:40:24.360 Yeah.

00:40:25.260 I don't hear a lot of people say girls and boys shouldn't be able to compete in chess.

00:40:29.680 In fact, they do compete all of the time.

00:40:32.820 And so there is no, yes, yes.

00:40:35.760 If you sit at a board and play a board game,

00:40:38.540 I also think boys and girls should be able to play

00:40:41.320 Who Sunk the Battleship and Clue and Monopoly together.

00:40:46.560 Yes, I don't think that boys being bigger, stronger, and faster

00:40:50.200 implicates who passes go first.

00:40:53.260 But I do think that that clip that we just played

00:40:57.020 is representative of why Democrats are lost in the wilderness

00:41:02.280 because they know that they're on the wrong side of issues.

00:41:07.040 And instead of directly addressing a question like he was asked there,

00:41:10.600 they try and filibuster, and to your point, Buck,

00:41:13.420 try to answer as if they are so much smarter than everybody else

00:41:17.000 who just wants to get an opinion.

00:41:19.680 And I think this is why, one reason,

00:41:21.460 Mayor Pete is at 0% support among black people 0.98

00:41:25.100 because in addition to the fact that he's a gay white guy, 0.98

00:41:28.000 which probably doesn't help him, 0.97

00:41:29.780 he's also very faculty classroom,

00:41:35.040 which is why I think white educated voters like him

00:41:38.120 because they think of him as the smart philosophy professor

00:41:41.900 at the place he went to school,

00:41:44.680 or Swarthmore, or someplace like that.

00:41:46.600 But they don't actually connect with average people

00:41:49.880 going through average daily life.

00:41:53.160 Yeah, this is why the Democrats have the problems

00:41:55.500 they do right now connecting

00:41:56.820 because the people who are putting themselves forward

00:42:00.060 as the leaders of their party

00:42:01.620 are smug and disingenuous. 0.60

00:42:03.560 I think it is apparent that they have

00:42:09.600 a real branding issue going forward 1.00

00:42:12.760 because as much as Joe Biden was a clown, a jerk, 1.00

00:42:17.340 and obviously had dementia for the four years 1.00

00:42:20.000 of his presidency,

00:42:20.680 he used to understand the game,

00:42:23.560 the grip and grin, the say whatever,

00:42:26.300 the make people think you care about them

00:42:28.880 just enough for them to pull the lever for you.

00:42:31.560 Like, Joe Biden got that.

00:42:32.700 You know, that was his whole life,

00:42:34.180 was just BSing people

00:42:36.120 into pretending that he cares about,

00:42:38.720 or pretending that he cares about them

00:42:40.300 so they'll vote for him.

00:42:41.600 There are all these other Democrats now

00:42:43.340 who, people like Gavin Newsom,

00:42:46.080 no one thinks Gavin Newsom cares about them.

00:42:48.900 Pete Buttigieg, Pete Buttigieg doesn't make,

00:42:51.360 he makes you think that he thinks

00:42:53.020 he's smarter than you.

00:42:54.300 And that's the whole game with him,

00:42:55.660 is that, you know, vote for me

00:42:56.660 because I'm so brilliant.

00:42:57.960 That doesn't connect with people.

00:43:00.100 And the only people they have who connect

00:43:01.720 are the socialists who just go right to the,

00:43:04.780 we're a bunch of malcontents,

00:43:06.380 we're angry at other people

00:43:07.420 who are more successful than us,

00:43:08.940 which is the AOC Bernie wing of their party.

00:43:11.540 But they don't have that Clintonian,

00:43:14.720 I'll feel your pain.

00:43:16.200 Like, they don't have that.

00:43:18.140 Here's one that I think is good, Buck.

00:43:20.080 This is from the New York Times,

00:43:21.620 from a voter in Milwaukee.

00:43:23.260 This guy's name is Orlando Owens.

00:43:25.420 Listen to this, everybody out there,

00:43:27.300 and I want you to think about

00:43:29.300 just this description.

00:43:31.200 He says,

00:43:32.300 at my first Democrat meeting,

00:43:34.360 two themes had me reconsider everything.

00:43:36.980 The first was,

00:43:38.260 we have to help the poor black men and women 0.99

00:43:40.580 because the white man is holding them down. 0.95

00:43:43.860 This is the first, 0.86

00:43:44.640 this is a black guy, by the way.

00:43:46.040 This is the first time I hear about 0.69

00:43:47.920 this white savior complex from white liberals.

00:43:51.100 Then they said, 0.86

00:43:52.080 we have to fight for our gay and lesbian

00:43:54.440 brothers and sisters.

00:43:56.140 We have to do this,

00:43:57.200 or we're racist, or bigots, or homophobes, 0.84

00:43:59.800 if we don't agree with you.

00:44:01.500 When you get your food stamp review,

00:44:03.920 you have to go give shot records,

00:44:05.740 school records, blood type.

00:44:07.600 You almost have to get absolutely naked

00:44:09.800 to get $50.

00:44:11.100 But you have people come into this country 1.00

00:44:13.040 who have no documentation,

00:44:15.200 who are staying in hotels for two years for free.

00:44:18.420 How's that right?

00:44:19.660 A lot of black people have already heard

00:44:21.860 the promises from Democrats,

00:44:23.320 and nothing was delivered.

00:44:27.440 That guy, 51-year-old voter from Milwaukee,

00:44:31.960 is more honest in that answer

00:44:34.500 than Mayor Pete,

00:44:36.100 who wants to be the President of the United States

00:44:39.100 and is trying to persuade voters to support him.

00:44:42.920 It's a fundamental inauthenticity

00:44:45.800 that I think has really riven through male voters.

00:44:50.920 Now, here's the crazy thing, Buck.

00:44:53.900 We talked about, to start the show off,

00:44:55.760 the Sidney Sweeney situation.

00:44:57.940 Do you know the foremost critics right now

00:45:00.960 of this American Eagle pretty girl advertisement?

00:45:06.500 White women. 1.00

00:45:07.680 White women are losing their minds on social media 0.99

00:45:11.240 over the fact that Sidney Sweeney, 0.96

00:45:13.820 who is also a white woman, 1.00

00:45:15.720 is in some way the front of the Democrat Party.

00:45:18.480 I mean, sorry, in front of the front-facing American Eagle.

00:45:20.460 They're like cult members

00:45:21.460 who now have the broader society

00:45:24.780 challenging their fundamental beliefs,

00:45:26.740 and the fundamental belief of being in the lib cult

00:45:29.300 is that whiteness, or just being white,

00:45:32.980 must always be contained, demeaned, undermined.

00:45:37.200 You cannot celebrate.

00:45:39.180 And can I just also point out,

00:45:40.140 it particularly bothers them

00:45:42.080 that it's a white woman with blonde hair and blue eyes.

00:45:45.700 This is like, they're specifically,

00:45:47.740 that is what really upsets them,

00:45:49.900 to which I just sit here and say, 0.99

00:45:51.960 like, these people are psychos. 0.99

00:45:53.560 What is wrong with them? 0.99

00:45:55.060 You know, there's,

00:45:56.100 so you're supposed to be particularly ashamed of yourself

00:45:58.640 if you have blonde hair and blue eyes.

00:45:59.920 Although it's very rare genetically, globally,

00:46:02.080 to have that,

00:46:03.120 and yet we're supposed to think

00:46:04.600 that this is some kind of,

00:46:05.720 what were they saying?

00:46:06.600 It's a dog whistle for Nazism or something? 1.00

00:46:09.840 They're insane. 0.99

00:46:10.400 Well, it's straight Nazism, 0.99

00:46:11.900 according to Good Morning America.

00:46:13.440 But I think this is such a fascinating question

00:46:16.360 for people out there.

00:46:17.820 And maybe you can think of it.

00:46:19.440 Has there ever been a group of people

00:46:23.120 that have hated themselves

00:46:25.940 for things that they cannot choose

00:46:30.620 that is now the backbone

00:46:33.720 of an entire political party,

00:46:36.040 The Democrat Party basically exists

00:46:38.980 for liberal white women.

00:46:41.800 That is the foundation.

00:46:43.500 They are driving every decision that is made.

00:46:47.760 The toxic nature of the woke mind virus

00:46:51.860 gets them particularly

00:46:54.780 in a way where everybody else,

00:46:57.880 it's like, has gotten,

00:46:59.620 become aware of how broken this worldview is,

00:47:02.960 except liberal white women 1.00

00:47:05.320 are now doubling and tripling

00:47:06.880 and quadrupling down.

00:47:08.120 Like, my favorite clip

00:47:09.680 that we probably have played

00:47:10.960 in the past year,

00:47:12.380 that white woman 1.00

00:47:13.140 who went to go buy the champagne

00:47:14.780 or whatever it was

00:47:15.820 to celebrate the fact

00:47:17.480 that women were showing up

00:47:18.720 to vote Kamala

00:47:19.580 and she lectured the guy 0.98

00:47:21.060 working in the liquor store about it.

00:47:22.440 We need to pull that back.

00:47:23.220 I'm sorry, Clay.

00:47:24.540 You mean the political analyst

00:47:26.480 who was telling us

00:47:27.620 that the women of America

00:47:29.060 will have their voices heard

00:47:30.980 in this election?

00:47:32.220 I mean, yes.

00:47:35.140 Like, maybe we can play that

00:47:36.740 at the end of the show

00:47:37.400 for people who have forgotten this.

00:47:39.420 But what does it say

00:47:40.940 that the Democrat Party

00:47:43.060 is basically being led

00:47:44.760 to 35-year lows in popularity

00:47:47.620 by almost entirely following

00:47:50.180 the whims and emotional responses

00:47:52.640 of young white women

00:47:56.160 who have decided 0.80

00:47:57.640 they hate other young white women 0.91

00:47:59.340 for being pretty blonde 0.99

00:48:01.460 and having blue eyes?

00:48:03.140 I don't know that there is

00:48:04.360 a historical analogy to this.

00:48:06.840 It's one thing to be arguing,

00:48:08.780 hey, I'm proud of where I'm from.

00:48:11.060 I'm proud of my race

00:48:12.720 or I'm proud of my ethnicity

00:48:14.180 or I'm proud...

00:48:14.960 Whatever it is,

00:48:15.720 that's very common.

00:48:17.500 Have we ever seen

00:48:18.780 someone self-flagellate like this

00:48:22.520 because of immutable characteristics

00:48:25.480 that they themselves did not choose?

00:48:28.040 Nobody choose it.

00:48:29.020 Well, I know you can change

00:48:30.040 your hair color now

00:48:30.940 and things like that,

00:48:32.260 but nobody chooses to be a gender

00:48:34.000 or...

00:48:34.940 Sane people do not choose 1.00

00:48:37.920 to be a gender or a race, right?

00:48:40.020 They're an immutable characteristic.

00:48:41.620 We are born as we are.

00:48:43.360 I'm not sure we've ever seen

00:48:44.360 anything like this.

00:48:45.680 And I do think it's worth grappling with

00:48:47.980 to try to comprehend

00:48:49.940 how we got here

00:48:50.980 and why guys like this Milwaukee black guy

00:48:55.620 who I just quoted from the New York Times

00:48:57.240 are looking around and saying,

00:48:58.740 man, this is crazy.

00:48:59.780 This is not the Democrat party

00:49:01.040 I grew up with.

00:49:02.480 There's also a fighting against biology

00:49:05.260 that is going on here

00:49:06.700 with the anti-Sydney Sweeney stuff,

00:49:09.240 which is men are going to like...

00:49:12.900 And by the way,

00:49:13.380 there'll be...

00:49:13.820 Women will aspire toward female beauty 1.00

00:49:15.720 and men will be drawn toward female beauty 1.00

00:49:18.340 no matter what the libs

00:49:20.880 and the media

00:49:21.860 and the propaganda machinery says.

00:49:24.100 That's right.

00:49:24.600 It's basic biology.

00:49:26.560 Yes.

00:49:27.020 They can spend the rest of their lives

00:49:28.380 telling us that morbid obesity

00:49:31.180 is the most sexy thing in the world

00:49:34.820 and it is not going to change

00:49:36.660 the desire that men have 0.61

00:49:37.940 for healthy, attractive females. 0.99

00:49:40.320 It's just not going to happen.

00:49:42.380 And this is where the left,

00:49:44.540 because they believe

00:49:45.760 in the government in place of God

00:49:47.740 and the total control of government

00:49:49.480 that would make some kind of utopia,

00:49:52.480 they think that they can change

00:49:54.000 even the most basic parts

00:49:55.380 of our humanity

00:49:56.600 and of our wiring,

00:49:58.160 and they can't.

00:49:59.140 And you see this

00:49:59.740 with the trans debate, too.

00:50:01.260 It's like, that's a woman. 0.98

00:50:02.100 No, it's not.

00:50:03.540 You can tell me all day

00:50:04.800 that the guy who says he's a woman,

00:50:06.520 it's just not going to happen.

00:50:07.520 I'm not going to sit here and go,

00:50:08.460 okay, yeah, you're right.

00:50:09.360 That's a woman. 1.00

00:50:10.380 They can try.

00:50:11.020 They can try.

00:50:11.460 There's no level of persuasion.

00:50:15.240 And then it's just brute force,

00:50:16.360 which is what they really started to try.

00:50:18.420 Say it's a woman 0.72

00:50:19.120 or you lose your job.

00:50:20.580 Say it's a woman 0.95

00:50:21.320 or we'll ruin your life, 1.00

00:50:24.020 your reputation, 0.93

00:50:25.000 kick you off the internet, 0.97

00:50:26.320 debank you, right? 0.93

00:50:28.020 That's just brute force.

00:50:29.520 And that is what the left

00:50:30.740 in the Biden years

00:50:32.300 decided to go all in on

00:50:34.300 on a number of these issues.

00:50:35.780 So, yeah,

00:50:36.880 people still like hot chicks. 1.00

00:50:38.440 It's going to continue.

00:50:39.180 It's going to continue to be the case.

00:50:41.320 Yeah, I know.

00:50:42.000 Clay knows.

00:50:42.900 He knows.

00:50:43.680 Trust me, I'm sold.

00:50:45.380 He's sold.

00:50:46.000 Yeah, he's not.

00:50:46.660 I understand basic biology.

00:50:48.840 I co-sign here.

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00:53:04.460 Joined now by Mark Levin.

00:53:06.140 He's the host

00:53:06.640 of the Mark Levin Show.

00:53:08.740 Also,

00:53:09.540 Fox News Channel's

00:53:10.380 Life, Liberty and Levin

00:53:11.440 and the chair

00:53:12.880 of the Landmark

00:53:14.180 Legal Foundation.

00:53:16.160 A new book out today

00:53:17.280 on power

00:53:18.180 and you have already written

00:53:20.320 eight consecutive

00:53:21.360 New York Times

00:53:22.280 number one bestsellers.

00:53:23.440 That's kind of a pretty cool thing.

00:53:25.060 But let's start here, Mark,

00:53:27.200 before we dive into the book.

00:53:28.760 What should happen

00:53:31.160 with the Russia collusion

00:53:33.060 revelations

00:53:33.860 from Tulsi Gabbard

00:53:35.200 and what do you think

00:53:36.800 actually will happen?

00:53:38.160 Is there a difference

00:53:38.960 between what you would suggest

00:53:40.320 and the reality?

00:53:41.620 How would you analyze this?

00:53:43.620 First of all,

00:53:44.300 thanks for having me.

00:53:45.180 Well, she's not going to be

00:53:45.980 charged with treason.

00:53:47.100 I think that's been done

00:53:48.120 once in recent times

00:53:50.020 and it's not going to happen.

00:53:52.400 The elements aren't there,

00:53:53.500 unfortunately,

00:53:54.920 for legal treason.

00:53:56.520 Was her conduct treasonous?

00:53:58.460 You know,

00:53:58.820 in the English common law,

00:53:59.880 probably so.

00:54:01.340 I'm meaning his conduct,

00:54:02.580 Obama's, I should say.

00:54:04.780 Well, what should happen

00:54:05.920 is they should open

00:54:06.800 a full investigation,

00:54:08.460 which is exactly

00:54:09.100 what they're doing.

00:54:09.860 They should question Obama.

00:54:11.400 They should get all his texts

00:54:12.440 and emails

00:54:12.960 and any other communication.

00:54:15.040 He should be questioned

00:54:15.880 under oath.

00:54:17.780 He should go through

00:54:18.480 the same rigmarole

00:54:19.280 that Trump did.

00:54:21.440 They created the precedent,

00:54:22.920 but in this case,

00:54:23.640 he's a guilty man.

00:54:24.560 And go through all that.

00:54:28.540 You also have the potential

00:54:29.580 for process crimes,

00:54:30.860 as we call them,

00:54:31.600 obstruction, perjury,

00:54:32.960 false statements,

00:54:33.700 all that stuff.

00:54:35.120 And he should be required

00:54:36.680 to defend his liberty.

00:54:38.620 And also,

00:54:39.500 the reason you question him

00:54:40.680 is to determine

00:54:41.220 if other people

00:54:42.040 have committed crimes.

00:54:46.300 You know,

00:54:46.620 a conspiracy

00:54:47.340 to use this kind of information

00:54:49.980 to undermine an election,

00:54:51.400 that is a crime.

00:54:52.360 But the extent to which,

00:54:54.620 you know,

00:54:54.820 you got lawyers commenting

00:54:55.860 saying,

00:54:56.340 you know,

00:54:56.560 conspiracy really starts

00:54:57.980 with the last

00:54:59.260 conspiratorial act.

00:55:00.860 That's true.

00:55:01.720 But conspiracy

00:55:02.320 has to start somewhere.

00:55:03.640 If it starts 20 years ago,

00:55:05.180 it won't apply.

00:55:07.340 But let's go ahead

00:55:08.480 and do the investigations.

00:55:10.140 You don't need probable cause

00:55:11.540 to conduct

00:55:12.000 a criminal investigation.

00:55:12.980 You need some notion

00:55:14.100 of reasonableness.

00:55:14.820 This is more than reasonable.

00:55:16.620 And conduct it

00:55:17.760 and see where it takes you.

00:55:18.860 Mark,

00:55:20.620 we've been following,

00:55:22.420 obviously,

00:55:22.840 very closely

00:55:23.560 since the events

00:55:25.660 of October 7th,

00:55:26.680 not only the war

00:55:27.580 in Gaza against Hamas,

00:55:29.740 but also

00:55:30.260 the waves

00:55:31.500 of anti-Semitism

00:55:32.100 on campus.

00:55:32.920 We know that

00:55:33.360 Columbia University

00:55:34.200 just agreed to pay

00:55:35.460 $200 million

00:55:36.320 and Harvard University

00:55:38.180 under this Trump

00:55:39.360 administration's tenure

00:55:40.880 is looking like

00:55:41.420 they're going to have to pay

00:55:42.300 substantially more

00:55:43.640 than that

00:55:44.200 because of their failure

00:55:44.900 to protect Jewish students.

00:55:46.600 There's a narrative,

00:55:47.340 though,

00:55:47.680 that we're seeing

00:55:48.660 get a lot of attention,

00:55:50.000 including on the right

00:55:51.820 by some people

00:55:52.540 that I think you would,

00:55:53.540 that people would consider

00:55:54.480 to be either at least

00:55:55.900 Trump supporters,

00:55:56.700 Trump voters,

00:55:57.640 that there's a humanitarian

00:55:59.080 crisis in Gaza

00:56:00.880 that is of Israel's

00:56:02.620 making and intention.

00:56:04.700 We played the U.S. ambassador

00:56:06.580 to Israel

00:56:07.160 addressing that,

00:56:08.440 but I wanted to hear

00:56:09.240 your take on not only

00:56:10.560 what is really going on

00:56:12.320 as you see it over there,

00:56:13.460 but also

00:56:14.100 why are conservatives

00:56:15.480 buying into this?

00:56:18.340 You know,

00:56:19.080 there's conservatives

00:56:19.800 and there's conservatives,

00:56:20.980 right?

00:56:21.420 There are isolationists

00:56:23.040 who claim to be conservatives

00:56:24.240 and then there are real conservatives

00:56:25.640 who are conservatives.

00:56:27.140 And the bottom line is this.

00:56:29.920 Why would the Israelis 1.00

00:56:31.080 want to starve to death

00:56:32.180 the people in Palestine, 0.99

00:56:34.480 excuse me,

00:56:35.000 the people in Gaza

00:56:35.860 and have the whole world

00:56:36.820 turn against them?

00:56:37.680 Why would they do that?

00:56:39.620 The Israelis could have 0.99

00:56:40.460 blown that little piece

00:56:41.560 of the earth

00:56:42.060 off the face of the earth

00:56:43.020 a long time ago,

00:56:44.160 but they haven't done that.

00:56:46.300 John Spencer,

00:56:47.160 who's an expert in this,

00:56:48.720 he says there's not another,

00:56:50.040 not another war

00:56:51.480 on the face of the earth

00:56:52.580 any time he looks back,

00:56:54.380 any time.

00:56:55.940 The country that was attacked

00:56:57.420 is being forced

00:56:58.920 to feed the people

00:57:00.560 of those who attacked them

00:57:02.820 and slaughtered

00:57:03.400 their own people. 0.97

00:57:04.840 The Israelis have brought in 1.00

00:57:06.160 enough food in Gaza

00:57:08.360 to feed 2 million people

00:57:10.360 every single day.

00:57:12.140 You've got 18-wheelers

00:57:13.780 that are stuck.

00:57:15.020 You've got pellets

00:57:15.920 of food that's stuck.

00:57:17.860 Why are certain

00:57:18.860 conservatives speaking

00:57:19.920 as they are?

00:57:20.460 I don't even call them

00:57:21.560 conservatives, Buck.

00:57:23.160 If you have this kind

00:57:24.640 of anti-Semitism

00:57:26.080 and that is your view,

00:57:28.060 then there's something

00:57:28.960 wrong with you. 0.98

00:57:30.340 Hamas is a terrorist organization. 0.94

00:57:32.260 This is their last 0.99

00:57:33.180 desperate act

00:57:34.060 in order to survive,

00:57:36.040 to turn the entire world

00:57:37.280 against this little country,

00:57:38.800 and they're succeeding.

00:57:40.860 They're succeeding.

00:57:41.760 I mean, France

00:57:42.820 has been conquered

00:57:43.560 by open immigration.

00:57:45.140 It is basically,

00:57:47.440 it has failed

00:57:48.360 as a Western society.

00:57:49.800 Britain has been 0.98

00:57:50.400 fundamentally conquered

00:57:51.660 by open immigration,

00:57:53.180 by the Islamists 0.81

00:57:53.980 and so forth.

00:57:55.120 It has failed.

00:57:55.800 Much of Europe has failed.

00:57:57.860 This was the plot

00:57:59.180 and the plan

00:57:59.980 of the early

00:58:00.940 Islamist scholars.

00:58:02.440 They wrote about it.

00:58:03.160 Revolution by immigration.

00:58:04.960 They're doing exactly

00:58:05.860 the same thing

00:58:06.560 in our country,

00:58:07.280 but for Donald Trump.

00:58:08.180 Can you imagine

00:58:08.740 four more years

00:58:09.560 and they may have succeeded

00:58:10.420 under a Biden

00:58:11.160 or a Kamala Harris,

00:58:13.200 but for Trump

00:58:14.200 and the Democrat Party

00:58:15.920 is fully engaged in this.

00:58:17.920 Look at the Democrat Party.

00:58:19.080 We're most of the anti-Semites. 0.95

00:58:20.860 You know,

00:58:21.020 we have some freaks

00:58:22.660 and fruitcakes

00:58:23.380 and that sort of thing.

00:58:24.880 This is part

00:58:25.800 of the Democrat Party.

00:58:27.060 This is the Bernie Sanders,

00:58:28.420 AOC,

00:58:29.300 Talib.

00:58:31.260 They're candidates

00:58:32.180 for office.

00:58:33.040 You know,

00:58:33.180 if we had a candidate

00:58:34.040 like this Mandami, 0.79

00:58:36.720 but instead

00:58:37.460 he was wearing

00:58:38.080 white robes

00:58:38.820 and a white hood

00:58:39.560 and he was part

00:58:40.800 of the Klan

00:58:41.360 and said the things

00:58:42.180 that Mandani has said,

00:58:43.280 you know,

00:58:43.700 about international

00:58:45.120 terrorism against the Jews.

00:58:46.260 We would reject that guy. 0.99

00:58:47.720 We would denounce that guy.

00:58:49.160 You have Democrat Party 0.66

00:58:50.360 leaders slobbering

00:58:51.340 all over themselves,

00:58:52.660 bending over backwards,

00:58:53.680 trying to figure out

00:58:54.440 how to support him

00:58:55.680 without supporting him.

00:58:56.720 So my answer to you

00:58:57.940 is I can't explain

00:58:59.880 the anti-Semites

00:59:00.880 wherever they come from,

00:59:01.920 but the fact is Hamas 0.88

00:59:04.020 is killing its own people 0.92

00:59:05.420 the way Mao killed 0.60

00:59:06.840 his own people,

00:59:07.700 the way Stalin killed

00:59:08.880 his own people, 1.00

00:59:09.740 the way these bastards 1.00

00:59:11.060 killed their own people 1.00

00:59:12.260 because they're out 0.98

00:59:13.160 for their own power.

00:59:15.400 The book is,

00:59:16.800 interestingly enough,

00:59:18.580 given what you just

00:59:19.280 talked about,

00:59:20.000 the book is called

00:59:21.160 On Power.

00:59:22.800 Part of power is

00:59:23.760 knowing when to use it

00:59:24.840 and when not to.

00:59:26.000 You were right,

00:59:26.920 I think both Buck and I

00:59:27.840 were right on this too,

00:59:28.980 that striking Iran 1.00

00:59:30.520 a significant blow

00:59:32.240 on their nuclear capabilities

00:59:33.900 was the right decision

00:59:35.560 for President Trump.

00:59:36.920 We heard from tons

00:59:37.880 of people out there

00:59:38.820 that if this happened,

00:59:40.920 World War III would happen. 0.84

00:59:42.340 Thousands of Americans

00:59:43.300 would die.

00:59:44.040 The price of oil

00:59:44.780 would go to $10 a gallon.

00:59:46.920 None of that happened.

00:59:48.180 And many of the people

00:59:49.160 who said that would happen,

00:59:50.560 it's like it never even

00:59:52.020 occurred, that debate.

00:59:54.620 How do you take

00:59:55.900 consequences here

00:59:57.640 going forward

00:59:58.560 when it comes to

00:59:59.380 analyzing that situation

01:00:00.800 and how much of a win

01:00:03.660 do you think that was

01:00:04.880 really for Trump

01:00:05.740 to have made that decision?

01:00:08.060 It was big

01:00:09.000 for President Trump

01:00:10.640 to make that.

01:00:11.200 Look, he has a technique

01:00:12.560 which is let us negotiate,

01:00:14.160 let's make a deal,

01:00:15.120 let's see if we can get

01:00:15.880 where we get.

01:00:17.120 But if you're dealing

01:00:18.240 with people who are

01:00:18.980 irrational on the other side, 0.75

01:00:20.340 you know, like terrorists 0.99

01:00:21.280 or communists

01:00:22.920 or that sort of thing

01:00:24.000 or Hamas types

01:00:26.320 and so forth and so on,

01:00:27.660 there's a point

01:00:28.160 at which it becomes

01:00:29.000 obvious that that's

01:00:30.680 not going to work

01:00:31.380 because you're dealing

01:00:32.400 with really what is a

01:00:33.760 what I call

01:00:35.440 positive power mentality

01:00:36.980 versus people

01:00:38.400 who have no interest

01:00:39.400 in that whatsoever. 0.97

01:00:40.360 They're very evil. 0.95

01:00:42.160 As for the people 0.74

01:00:42.940 who predicted

01:00:43.700 these things,

01:00:44.480 they should be shamed. 0.76

01:00:45.880 They should be disgraced 0.97

01:00:46.880 and they're going 0.88

01:00:47.980 to keep doing it

01:00:48.800 because they need

01:00:49.680 the hits,

01:00:50.160 they need the eyes,

01:00:51.060 they need the clicks,

01:00:51.880 they need all that stuff.

01:00:53.060 And, you know,

01:00:55.560 I don't know

01:00:56.300 who was arguing what.

01:00:57.820 You guys are very solid.

01:00:59.580 I know I was arguing too.

01:01:01.200 This isn't a warmongering

01:01:02.500 for God's sakes,

01:01:04.180 preventing a terrorist regime

01:01:05.540 from having atomic weapons

01:01:06.940 that keep threatening us

01:01:08.120 or the use of these missiles

01:01:10.600 that they were going to build

01:01:11.780 into the tens of thousands

01:01:13.140 that are aligned

01:01:14.460 with communist China

01:01:15.540 and communist North Korea

01:01:17.080 and KGB Putin.

01:01:19.380 I mean,

01:01:20.580 if we're not going

01:01:21.180 to take a stand there,

01:01:22.320 then when the hell

01:01:22.860 are we going to take a stand

01:01:24.000 when they hit us,

01:01:24.860 the continental United States?

01:01:26.640 That is absurd.

01:01:27.860 That is isolationism.

01:01:29.360 That is not what Trump

01:01:30.600 meant by peace through strength.

01:01:32.120 It's not what Reagan

01:01:32.880 meant by peace through strength.

01:01:34.480 They are not isolationists.

01:01:36.100 In other words,

01:01:36.580 they're not suicidal.

01:01:39.600 Mark,

01:01:40.120 I wanted to ask you

01:01:41.220 to tell us a bit

01:01:41.900 about the book

01:01:42.500 out today on power.

01:01:44.960 And I know you've written

01:01:46.040 eight number one bestsellers.

01:01:47.360 This one already rocketing

01:01:49.740 up the charts.

01:01:50.720 What do you want people

01:01:51.940 to take away?

01:01:52.640 And a lot of people

01:01:53.100 in this audience

01:01:53.580 are getting their copyright.

01:01:55.220 A great August beach

01:01:56.920 or out in the woods

01:01:58.220 at the cabin read,

01:01:59.000 everybody on power.

01:02:00.180 What do you want people

01:02:00.840 to take from the book? 1.00

01:02:02.620 Or sitting your ass 1.00

01:02:03.560 on the basement 1.00

01:02:04.100 like I do.

01:02:06.820 Here's the thing.

01:02:07.940 We debate liberty.

01:02:09.380 We debate rights.

01:02:10.600 I was thinking about this.

01:02:12.780 We have got to become

01:02:13.700 more effective

01:02:14.340 in dealing with these Marxists,

01:02:17.600 these Islamists, 0.85

01:02:18.900 these other people.

01:02:20.520 What is it

01:02:21.240 that the Revolutionary War

01:02:22.360 was fought over?

01:02:23.200 It really wasn't

01:02:23.940 fought over liberty.

01:02:24.700 It was fought over power.

01:02:25.620 Who gets to decide what?

01:02:27.840 You know,

01:02:28.140 the French Revolution

01:02:28.900 was fought

01:02:29.360 to destroy their society.

01:02:30.660 The American Revolution

01:02:31.480 was not fought

01:02:32.160 to destroy our society.

01:02:33.220 It was fought

01:02:33.640 for representative government.

01:02:35.760 And you start

01:02:36.800 to think about these things.

01:02:38.660 What makes us

01:02:39.380 so different from Europe?

01:02:41.000 What makes us so different

01:02:42.060 from the Marxists

01:02:42.860 and the Islamists?

01:02:43.560 What makes us different

01:02:44.520 is what the founders

01:02:45.880 told us.

01:02:47.200 A belief in God,

01:02:49.240 a belief in the

01:02:49.920 Judeo-Christian

01:02:50.960 value system,

01:02:52.460 they're very explicit

01:02:53.260 about it,

01:02:53.860 and it's fused

01:02:54.760 with the Enlightenment.

01:02:56.240 You know,

01:02:56.620 power checks power.

01:02:58.260 You're not going to find

01:02:59.060 that with the Marxists,

01:03:00.000 whether it's Bernie Sanders

01:03:00.960 or Tlaib

01:03:01.580 or any of them.

01:03:02.540 It is a constant battle

01:03:03.920 with the Democrats

01:03:04.720 and their ideologues

01:03:05.920 over centralization

01:03:07.440 of power

01:03:08.000 versus individual sovereignty.

01:03:10.520 God is sovereign

01:03:11.300 on earth.

01:03:12.140 We are his children.

01:03:13.540 We are sovereign.

01:03:14.900 Look,

01:03:15.200 I'm not proselytizing.

01:03:17.180 I'm not even capable

01:03:18.260 of proselytizing.

01:03:19.720 You don't have to be

01:03:20.540 Jewish or Christian.

01:03:22.200 You don't have to be

01:03:22.900 a believer in anything.

01:03:24.220 But our country

01:03:25.200 was created

01:03:26.020 under this belief system

01:03:27.760 that has enabled

01:03:29.080 this tolerance

01:03:30.140 and this diversity

01:03:31.060 and freedom

01:03:31.880 and freedom of speech

01:03:33.020 and limited government.

01:03:34.880 Communism is the opposite.

01:03:37.000 Islamism, 0.84

01:03:38.220 radical,

01:03:38.700 political Islamism

01:03:40.040 is the opposite.

01:03:40.860 No free speech,

01:03:42.100 no debate.

01:03:42.900 It's conformity

01:03:43.720 and control.

01:03:45.140 And I'm just trying

01:03:45.780 to express in this book,

01:03:46.920 I take the word power

01:03:47.880 and I break it

01:03:48.460 into different pieces,

01:03:49.540 positive, negative,

01:03:50.980 thought control,

01:03:51.900 language control,

01:03:52.720 because we better get better

01:03:54.620 at explaining

01:03:55.480 what we're fighting over

01:03:56.920 or we're going to lose.

01:03:58.620 We'll have respites

01:03:59.460 with Donald Trump.

01:04:00.440 But when these guys

01:04:01.080 take power,

01:04:01.620 they make permanent changes

01:04:02.780 like open borders.

01:04:03.920 Can you imagine?

01:04:04.940 If the border had been open

01:04:05.900 another four years,

01:04:06.760 I don't think we could

01:04:07.780 have recovered from this

01:04:08.860 and it could be open

01:04:10.360 another four years

01:04:11.240 if we lose an election.

01:04:13.000 So my view is

01:04:13.980 when we explain to people,

01:04:15.420 when you listen

01:04:15.960 to Amandami's,

01:04:17.040 people like that,

01:04:18.100 what they're saying is

01:04:19.080 we're going to steal

01:04:20.380 your liberty,

01:04:21.260 your individuality,

01:04:22.460 we're going to steal

01:04:23.140 your rights,

01:04:24.280 we're going to make

01:04:24.940 decisions for you.

01:04:25.920 This 33-year-old punk

01:04:27.320 who's never done anything,

01:04:28.780 he's going to determine

01:04:29.700 how each and every one

01:04:30.780 of us are going to live,

01:04:32.300 how we're going to raise

01:04:33.060 a family,

01:04:34.000 where we're going

01:04:34.480 to raise a family,

01:04:35.940 redistribution of wealth,

01:04:37.460 which is the destruction

01:04:38.380 of wealth,

01:04:39.340 which is the destruction

01:04:40.360 of private property.

01:04:42.040 This is the whole

01:04:42.780 1619 Project,

01:04:44.480 CRT, DEI,

01:04:46.560 whatever cockamamie ideas

01:04:48.020 they can come up with,

01:04:48.920 wokeism,

01:04:49.740 language control,

01:04:50.840 thought control.

01:04:52.400 People need to understand

01:04:53.640 you are fighting

01:04:54.680 for your own liberty

01:04:57.460 and survival.

01:04:58.820 That's what's going on here.

01:05:00.020 That's what I'm trying

01:05:00.740 to explain in this book

01:05:02.280 in a number of different ways.

01:05:03.980 The book is On Power.

01:05:05.920 Mark Levin,

01:05:06.620 you all know him,

01:05:07.260 is the author.

01:05:07.960 Go get your copy.

01:05:09.120 Mark, congrats on the new book

01:05:10.640 and thanks for making

01:05:11.200 time for us today.

01:05:12.280 By the way,

01:05:12.860 you guys are great.

01:05:13.980 I really appreciate you.

01:05:15.240 Keep up the great work.

01:05:16.260 God bless.

01:05:17.280 Thanks a lot.

01:05:17.960 We appreciate that.

01:05:19.780 All right,

01:05:20.260 with the tariff deals

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01:05:23.180 estimates of how many

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01:05:25.280 into our federal government.

01:05:26.280 Now, that's a great thing,

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01:05:28.380 a $37 trillion debt.

01:05:29.800 We still have a lot

01:05:31.400 of long-term

01:05:32.500 financial challenges

01:05:33.760 as a country

01:05:34.320 when it comes to

01:05:35.140 inflation, money printing.

01:05:36.760 How do we get out

01:05:37.320 of this debt

01:05:37.820 and what's going to happen

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