Verdict with Ted Cruz - FBI Raided Biden's Office...And They Forgot To Mention It!

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00:00:04.680 Welcome.

00:00:05.380 It is Verdict with Senator Ted Cruz, Ben Ferguson with you.

00:00:08.800 Senator, nice to chat with you.

00:00:11.140 And we have got some new news that, man, I guess they were hoping we never found out about it.

00:00:17.040 The best part is when CBS News has to use their ridiculous breaking news jingle.

00:00:25.820 I hadn't heard this in a long time.

00:00:27.560 So this is how they broke the breaking news.

00:00:35.100 Well, we have more breaking news now in the Biden documents investigation.

00:00:39.920 Sources tell CBS News the FBI searched the Penn Biden Center offices in mid-November.

00:00:45.280 That came after lawyers for President Biden found about 10 documents marked classified on November 2nd.

00:00:51.180 Those materials were from Mr. Biden's time as vice president.

00:00:54.340 Sources also say the search was conducted with the cooperation of Biden's representatives, and the FBI did not seek a search warrant.

00:01:02.040 We'll have much more on those developments a little later this afternoon.

00:01:05.680 All right.

00:01:06.020 Now, Senator, I thought this guy said he was going to run the most transparent administration in history.

00:01:11.700 And now we're finding out that there was a previously undisclosed search at the Penn Biden Center in November that no one told anybody about.

00:01:20.900 Look, at this point, this is a bad 1970s sitcom where every day another screw-up happens.

00:01:29.760 Every day, oh, we got more documents.

00:01:32.240 We got documents in the Penn Biden Center.

00:01:35.700 We have documents in the Wilmington House.

00:01:38.100 We have documents in the Rehoboth Beach House.

00:01:40.320 We have documents by the Corvette.

00:01:41.940 We have documents in the room beside the Corvette.

00:01:44.400 Then we discover, oh, the FBI is engaged in a raid.

00:01:48.460 And now we discover this was not the first FBI raid.

00:01:52.480 There was an FBI raid back in November that miraculously never got disclosed.

00:02:00.560 And listen, we've talked about how the Biden DOJ, the Biden FBI, has leaked like a sieve about Donald Trump.

00:02:08.180 Every bad thing they have about Donald Trump immediately gets leaked to the media.

00:02:11.980 When the FBI does a search of Biden's office, they don't leak it to the media.

00:02:19.100 They don't let anyone know because they didn't want to disturb the election.

00:02:22.640 Mind you, the first of these documents, if we're to believe the timeline that has been given, was discovered a week before the election.

00:02:30.280 But they did not want anyone to know, so they kept it silent.

00:02:34.220 And it is amazing.

00:02:35.440 Listen, just as a crisis management point, these guys every day, it gets worse and worse.

00:02:43.100 Senator, one of the things that they keep saying, and when I say they, I'm talking about the White House and the people speaking on behalf, all the surrogates for Biden is,

00:02:54.060 well, hold on, this search and the other searches, plural now, by the FBI were not raids.

00:03:02.520 They want to make that very clear.

00:03:03.860 And they say they're all conducted without the use of a warrant, like you're supposed to get, you know, like time served, right, for good behavior in this scenario.

00:03:12.760 Like everything's fine because it wasn't like they had to come in with a raid.

00:03:16.600 It wasn't like they had to do it, get a warrant.

00:03:18.760 We're being transparent.

00:03:20.360 So even when we do lie to you and tell you that nothing else is there when it clearly is, you should still give us good, you know, good behavior credit.

00:03:28.000 Right. So, number one, it's a bizarre semantic game they're playing to say it's not a raid.

00:03:33.280 Listen, if the FBI shows up at your house or shows up at your office to search your house or your office, it's a raid.

00:03:39.920 Like their thesis is, well, they didn't repel in off of helicopters with machine guns and have to shoot the guards.

00:03:45.960 So we ought to be get credit for that.

00:03:48.440 Listen, if the FBI is searching, you know what they didn't do?

00:03:51.580 They didn't tell the American people the FBI is searching his office and they didn't do it because they discovered these documents.

00:03:57.780 It's allegedly right before Election Day.

00:03:59.560 And they realized, oh, wait, this would be really bad for the election.

00:04:02.660 So let's lie about it.

00:04:03.920 And you know who didn't tell the American people either?

00:04:05.940 The FBI.

00:04:06.780 You know who didn't tell the American people either?

00:04:08.560 The DOJ.

00:04:09.420 Mind you, this FBI and DOJ seems to have a direct line to The New York Times, a direct line to The Washington Post.

00:04:16.120 Everything bad for Donald Trump, they leak like crazy.

00:04:18.940 And in fact, we learned during the Trump administration, they don't just leak actual true facts like the FBI searched his home today, that they leak all sorts of false things like the entire Russiagate fraud, where what they were telling the press was false.

00:04:34.780 This Biden DOJ is thoroughly politicized.

00:04:39.560 And the Biden White House, they didn't tell people it is right now February.

00:04:46.500 This happened in November.

00:04:49.240 The Biden White House didn't tell the American people in November.

00:04:52.620 They didn't tell the American people in December.

00:04:55.160 They didn't tell the American people in January.

00:04:57.420 The FBI didn't tell the American people in November, December, January.

00:05:01.680 The DOJ didn't tell the American people in November, December, January.

00:05:05.060 It wasn't until the press broke it, the very last day of January, that they're like, oh, yeah, that happened, too.

00:05:12.700 It is interesting to see how the media is responding to this.

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00:06:50.220 Senator, take a listen again.

00:06:51.880 This is CNN.

00:06:52.580 CNN actually irritated at the White House for not being transparent.

00:06:56.700 And I don't think it's because they care that the White House is lying to us.

00:06:59.640 I think they care that they were actually lied to by the White House.

00:07:03.180 All right.

00:07:03.400 Let me ask you about some new reporting here.

00:07:05.840 According to a Justice Department official and another source familiar with the matter,

00:07:10.740 the FBI searched President Biden's former think tank office in Washington in November

00:07:15.020 after the discovery just before the midterm elections of the documents with the classified markings.

00:07:21.340 Were any additional classified documents found as part of that search?

00:07:26.300 That's not something I can comment on from here.

00:07:28.320 That's something you'll need to ask the Justice Department.

00:07:30.400 What I can say is that we have been cooperative and transparent from the outset.

00:07:35.380 We put out multiple statements from the president's personal attorney describing the process

00:07:39.660 and being clear that the president takes this seriously and that he cooperated

00:07:43.720 and will continue to cooperate with the Justice Department in full.

00:07:47.080 And, you know, the other thing I would say while we're on this topic is, you know,

00:07:49.580 over the weekend CBS had a poll out that showed that the majority of Americans think that

00:07:53.760 President Biden is handling this well.

00:07:55.760 And we've also seen that it hasn't impacted his approval ratings because while he absolutely

00:08:00.480 takes this seriously and continues to cooperate, he's also continuing to focus on the things

00:08:04.800 that matter in people's lives, like visiting the tunnel today that is finally getting those

00:08:09.280 infrastructure dollars after so many years of not being able to get it done.

00:08:12.200 So, Kate, you're claiming transparency, but I'm bringing this to you.

00:08:16.180 You aren't bringing it to me.

00:08:17.720 This happened in mid-November.

00:08:20.020 If you are indeed being transparent, why the continued trickle of disclosure around these

00:08:25.780 classified documents?

00:08:27.140 I mean, Senator, let's just stop it right there.

00:08:29.740 You just had CNN say, so, Kate, talking to the White House, quote, you're claiming transparency,

00:08:36.440 but I'm bringing this to you.

00:08:39.420 You aren't bringing it to me.

00:08:41.260 And that's where I go back to what I was saying earlier.

00:08:42.960 I think this is just personal now.

00:08:44.420 The media is furious that basically they were misled by their partners in crime, right?

00:08:49.340 They're being double-crossed by this Biden White House.

00:08:51.580 He didn't say the American people.

00:08:53.180 He said, I'm bringing this to you.

00:08:55.440 You aren't bringing it to me.

00:08:57.060 This happens in mid-November.

00:08:58.540 If you are indeed being transparent, why continue, continue trickle of disclosures around these

00:09:04.360 classified documents?

00:09:05.720 That's CNN that said it.

00:09:07.800 Look, when the Democrats have lost CNN, their ship is sinking.

00:09:15.180 That is bad.

00:09:16.420 CNN are as hardcore left-wing partisans as you can find.

00:09:21.060 And the problem is the White House every day sends out flax who say things that are false.

00:09:27.420 I mean, listen, I think this podcast may have single-handedly taken Corrine Jean-Pierre off the air.

00:09:33.520 Ben, I don't know why you're so mean to her.

00:09:34.940 Just because she lies to the American people every day. 1.00

00:09:37.020 That seems a really harsh thing to do.

00:09:39.380 And I'm pro-employment, by the way.

00:09:41.440 I actually feel a little bad, right?

00:09:44.360 Well, every single day, what they stand up and say, you don't have to wait 48 hours.

00:09:52.800 24 hours later, those facts are no longer operative.

00:09:57.080 Look at the opening question in that exchange from CNN.

00:10:00.520 So when the FBI raided Biden's pen office, did they find any additional documents?

00:10:09.140 Now, there's an answer to that question.

00:10:11.020 The answer is yes or no.

00:10:13.700 It's one of the two, presumably.

00:10:16.320 She didn't answer that.

00:10:17.840 Yeah.

00:10:18.320 She said, oh, you got to talk to someone else.

00:10:20.740 You know what that means?

00:10:21.740 That means tomorrow or the next day or the next day we're going to find out.

00:10:25.940 Yes, they found additional documents.

00:10:27.840 Or no, they didn't.

00:10:29.040 Like, this is not, at the end of the day, terribly complicated, that when you have a scandal in Washington, get the facts out, get them out fast, be totally transparent, be open kimono, say, here's what happened.

00:10:42.540 The FBI examined it.

00:10:43.740 We found this.

00:10:44.480 We found this.

00:10:45.160 Like, just answer it.

00:10:47.260 Rip the Band-Aid off.

00:10:49.260 To mix my metaphors, we've got an open kimono with a Band-Aid being ripped off, and it's Joe Biden.

00:10:54.080 Okay, that's now really frightening, but it could be worse.

00:10:56.300 It could be harder.

00:10:56.780 Look, never mind the imagery.

00:11:00.640 I'm glad this is an audio podcast and not a video one because my eyes would be burning and I'd be Homer Simpson pouring bleach in my eyeballs right now.

00:11:07.900 But they're deliberately or either deliberately or incompetently setting this up for the drip, drip, drip.

00:11:17.880 We can't answer that.

00:11:19.000 We won't answer that.

00:11:19.840 And CNN says, look, you don't get to say I'm being transparent when you're not telling us anything.

00:11:27.480 Like, stonewalling is by definition not transparent.

00:11:31.120 And CNN's point, you didn't tell us about the FBI.

00:11:35.680 We found out about it because you're not being transparent.

00:11:40.680 And I will say also, so her response, she says, well, there was a recent poll that shows Biden's just doing great, so never mind any of this.

00:11:48.940 Well, I'll tell you there was another poll that was done by YouGov just recently that concluded, quote,

00:11:56.220 The share of Democrats who see Biden as honest and trustworthy has fallen 10 points from 79 percent in December to 69 percent this week among independents.

00:12:09.840 That perception fell seven points from 30 percent to 23 percent, and it even fell six points among Republicans from 14 percent to 8 percent.

00:12:21.780 So their claim, this is not making a difference, is directly contradicted by the polls.

00:12:27.860 And the reason is they are being the opposite of transparent.

00:12:34.860 They are hiding everything.

00:12:35.960 They are refusing to answer questions, which means I can promise you there will be new news on this next week.

00:12:44.280 I don't know what it will be.

00:12:45.860 Well, you just mentioned transparency, and I want to play this because it speaks to what you're saying.

00:12:50.340 They're not being transparent on any of it.

00:12:51.920 They're not telling the truth.

00:12:53.320 Joe Biden came back from another weekend vacation, and he was asked about this on the law of the White House.

00:12:58.880 And this was a question.

00:13:00.620 I'm going to give you the transcript for everybody because then you can follow along easier.

00:13:05.000 The reporter says, if the special counsel who's starting this week asked for your testimony, would you give testimony?

00:13:14.160 The reporter says.

00:13:15.160 Joe Biden responds by saying, oh, I don't even know about the special counsel.

00:13:20.780 Listen carefully.

00:13:22.460 If the special counsel who's starting this week asked for your testimony, would you give testimony?

00:13:29.500 I don't even know about the special counsel.

00:13:36.780 This is why you go back to the poll that you just mentioned when it says Biden, as honest and trustworthy, has fallen 10 points from 79 percent December to 69 percent this week.

00:13:48.740 Among independents, that perception fell seven points.

00:13:51.680 I mean, that was among Democrats, the first one, from 30 percent to 23.

00:13:56.000 He's lost independents at 23 percent, and it's fallen another six points, as you mentioned, among Republicans, down to 8 percent.

00:14:04.220 And he looks at you and goes, oh, I don't even know anything about a special counsel.

00:14:08.380 Now, I do believe that a cognitive decline is real with this guy, but I don't believe that he doesn't know that there's a special counsel.

00:14:15.320 So, Ben, let me ask a simple question.

00:14:19.180 Is he telling the truth or is he lying?

00:14:22.880 You're lying.

00:14:24.420 Both of those outcomes are bad.

00:14:28.740 If he's telling the truth, and I actually think there's a very real possibility he's telling the truth.

00:14:33.280 When he says, I don't know about the special counsel, the degree to which this man is intellectually compromised, is not aware.

00:14:44.080 I want you to think in the history of our government, can you imagine Richard Nixon saying, I don't know who Archibald Cox is.

00:14:51.800 I don't know anything about that.

00:14:53.200 Can you imagine Bill Clinton saying, Ken Starr, who's he?

00:14:56.340 Never heard of him.

00:14:57.640 Can you imagine Donald Trump saying, Robert Mueller, who's that guy?

00:15:01.280 Never heard of the guy.

00:15:02.880 Like, the two options are Biden is telling the truth, and let's give him the benefit of the doubt.

00:15:09.160 Let's assume he's telling the truth.

00:15:10.420 He's standing up there saying, I don't know about the special counsel.

00:15:14.600 What kind of president doesn't know his own attorney general in the Department of Justice has appointed a special counsel to investigate him, Joseph Robinette Biden Jr., for potential violations of federal criminal law?

00:15:30.040 If he doesn't know, that is one heck of an indictment of his ability to do the job as president.

00:15:38.460 If he does know, then option number two, which ironically is the less damning option, is he's just blithely lying to the press.

00:15:48.360 Yeah.

00:15:48.500 But he knows about it.

00:15:49.380 He's like, oh, I don't know, because I don't want to talk about it.

00:15:51.240 That's the best option.

00:15:53.460 The irony is that he's a deliberate and blatant liar is the less damaging option than that he is so oblivious he is not aware that his own Justice Department has had to appoint a special counsel to investigate multiple flagrant apparent violations of federal criminal law by him.

00:16:19.780 Yeah. And that and that brings us honestly to this next story.

00:16:23.220 You talked about this on the last podcast.

00:16:26.020 And for people listening, if you'd missed this episode, there was a lot of bad weather.

00:16:30.660 I know a lot of people may not have been driving over the last couple of days with with a snow and ice storm that's hitting the country.

00:16:36.200 But this is an episode you need to go back to and listen to.

00:16:39.640 We were talking about this this incredible email that Hunter Biden sent to one Devin Archer, one of his is his business associates trying to get this job in Ukraine on Burisma a week before his dad goes over there.

00:16:53.340 And two weeks before he gets his 80,000 plus dollar a month job with Burisma sitting on the board.

00:16:59.080 And this email, many people you taught you said this, you believe this email clearly came from a document that was more than likely a classified document that the vice president at the time Joe Biden would have had his hands on.

00:17:11.540 And we go into great detail about that email.

00:17:14.100 So go back and listen to that our last podcast.

00:17:17.700 But there's new documents, Senator, that have come out.

00:17:20.580 Hunter Biden apparently pitched himself as an expert in Russian oligarch who is targeted by the FBI.

00:17:28.120 Now, Miranda Devine, who she wrote a book.

00:17:30.520 I tell people rarely to go buy books.

00:17:32.300 But if you haven't read Laptop from Hell, you should.

00:17:34.440 She's the one that came out with this saying Hunter Biden boasted he could provide intelligence on the shady Russian oligarch whose Greenwich Village townhouse was raided by the FBI on Tuesday.

00:17:46.920 The president's son said he could provide Alcoa, a giant U.S.

00:17:52.000 aluminum firm with knowledge about the elite, quote unquote, networks connected to this oligarch in a proposal from his company, Rosemont Seneca.

00:18:01.460 These emails, again, telling the story on Hunter Biden's laptop and federal agents, what we're being told, carried out law enforcement activity on Tuesday at the Gray Street townhouse and a Washington mansion tied to these Russian oligarchs, a close ally of Russian President Vladimir Putin.

00:18:23.240 And this is who Hunter Biden was trying to do business with.

00:18:27.180 Well, that's exactly right.

00:18:28.240 Before I address that, though, I do have to say two things.

00:18:31.000 Number one, Ben, you just said you rarely, rarely urge people to buy books.

00:18:36.600 Yours was the last one before this.

00:18:38.120 So there you go.

00:18:38.900 I've got a book, Justice Corrupted, How the Left Has Weaponized the Legal System.

00:18:43.480 I got to say, why do you hurt me? 0.99

00:18:45.300 Why are you urging people not to buy my damn books? 0.99

00:18:47.980 They ought to go to Amazon right now. 0.99

00:18:49.840 You can pause the podcast.

00:18:51.000 I want you to listen to the rest of the podcast.

00:18:52.400 But you can pause the podcast.

00:18:53.900 You can flip over to Amazon.

00:18:55.180 And with one click, you can do the have it delivered tomorrow.

00:18:58.760 I love it.

00:18:59.300 But in fact, you could combo these two books together.

00:19:02.980 Valid point.

00:19:04.980 All right.

00:19:06.020 So and I will say, secondly, you said in our last podcast, which was on Monday, and it was

00:19:12.580 we got went into great detail about a very detailed email that that Hunter Biden sent that had 22

00:19:22.580 points about Ukraine and geopolitical analysis that was very scholarly, very erudite.

00:19:28.260 And you said that that I said that this was this was very likely from classified documents.

00:19:34.480 I want to be clear.

00:19:35.240 I didn't say that.

00:19:36.860 What I said was this email is very unlike the other emails Hunter Biden sent.

00:19:43.800 And it reads as if it came from a federal government briefing.

00:19:49.020 Bingo.

00:19:49.600 That's a better way of putting it.

00:19:50.640 I think it is quite likely that the substance of the email came from a briefing that Joe Biden

00:19:57.860 received as vice president.

00:19:59.320 It was a week before his trip to Ukraine.

00:20:02.300 Ukraine and it reads like a U.S.

00:20:04.740 government prepared briefing.

00:20:06.460 What I don't know is whether that briefing was classified or not.

00:20:10.280 It may have been.

00:20:11.260 And often those briefings are classified.

00:20:13.760 But I don't know one way or the other.

00:20:15.860 And what I've said is the special counsel needs to investigate.

00:20:18.600 It needs to look at the briefings that Joe Biden as vice president received at that time.

00:20:24.060 Those are in the archives.

00:20:25.760 They have them.

00:20:26.360 And it needs to examine did Hunter Biden's email cut and paste and copy from that briefing.

00:20:34.000 Now, if it was not a classified briefing, that's the Biden family exploiting daddy's connections.

00:20:40.580 And that's that's kind of sleazy, but it's not necessarily illegal.

00:20:46.660 If it is a classified document and presumably Hunter did not have security clearance, then it

00:20:53.520 is illegal likely on both Hunter Biden's part and Joe Biden's part.

00:20:59.360 And so on the face of it, it screams out that this came from a far more detailed government

00:21:06.820 briefing than than Hunter had the expertise.

00:21:10.600 Now, there's another email that Hunter Biden sent.

00:21:13.740 And he sent this email to Alcoa, the big aluminum company, to, quote, provide Alcoa with

00:21:22.940 statistical analysis of political and corporate risks, elite networks associated with Oleg

00:21:28.740 Deripaska, Russian CEO of Basics Elements Company and United Company Rusal.

00:21:34.660 And in on June 3rd of 2011, Hunter wrote, quote, please see the attached proposal per our

00:21:41.940 last conversation.

00:21:43.280 We tried to provide a little better sense of the product by attaching some of the raw data

00:21:47.460 that is produced through the elite mapping procedure.

00:21:51.760 And the proposal includes, quote, a list of elites of similar rank in Russia, maps of the

00:21:59.840 oligarchs networks based on frequency of interactions with selected elites and countries, and Hunter

00:22:06.660 wanted to charge Alcoa fees of $25,000 for phase one of the project and $55,000 for refined

00:22:14.520 analysis.

00:22:16.220 And Alcoa came back on June 8th with an email and said, I don't believe the data analysis

00:22:22.620 is worth the full $55,000.

00:22:24.840 I think the most valuable piece for us would be the list of the Russian elites connected

00:22:29.240 with the oligarch, Deripaska, that would not be otherwise on government affairs teams radar, 0.61

00:22:34.960 including various Russian committee committee heads, union leaders or ministers.

00:22:40.460 And the person from Alcoa also noted Hunter's political pedigree.

00:22:47.680 And here's what it says, quote, Rosemont Seneca, his company, has co-chairman Hunter Biden, son

00:22:55.360 of Joe Biden, and Christopher Hines, stepson of Senator John Kerry.

00:23:01.860 So they're being very open.

00:23:04.060 Hey, these are the kids of politicians with classified information, and we're going to pay for it.

00:23:09.220 Now, once again, there's nothing in Hunter Biden's background, there's nothing in his

00:23:14.720 educational training, there's nothing in his study that suggests that he has any particular

00:23:19.940 expertise on the networks of elites in Russia connected to Russian oligarchs.

00:23:27.580 Now, he wants to charge $55,000 for his analysis.

00:23:32.660 Hey, you want to know what's going on with the Russian oligarchs?

00:23:34.920 I'm your guy.

00:23:36.540 That, once again, like the Ukraine email, it is a level of sophistication that it asks

00:23:43.200 any person with a reasonable degree of skepticism.

00:23:47.860 How did Hunter Biden find this out?

00:23:50.180 Where did he get it?

00:23:52.060 Did he, you know, does he often pal around with Russian oligarchs?

00:23:55.620 How does he know who are the oligarchs' friends and peers and contemporaries and what's going

00:24:01.100 on, other than the only source I'm aware of for him to get this information is the briefing

00:24:10.080 apparatus that surrounded his father, the vice president of the United States.

00:24:16.260 I don't know that those briefs were provided to Hunter.

00:24:19.400 I just don't know of any other source from which he could have acquired this information.

00:24:23.960 And mind you, the White House isn't providing any.

00:24:28.540 Hunter Biden isn't suggesting any.

00:24:30.500 Joe Biden isn't suggesting any.

00:24:32.400 No Democrats are suggesting any.

00:24:34.100 So the obvious inference is this came from daddy.

00:24:37.320 And again, if it's just daddy saying, all right, here are all my briefings from my staff.

00:24:43.400 Go make money and sell it on the private sector for $55,000 a pop.

00:24:47.520 That's pretty sleazy, but it may not be directly illegal.

00:24:55.580 But it should be looked at.

00:24:57.160 It should be looked at.

00:24:58.500 But if the briefings are classified briefings, if they are the CIA saying, here are the oligarchs

00:25:06.540 and Russia, here are the relationships between them, and suddenly Hunter is getting access

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00:25:16.060 And so we now have two emails that strongly raise the inference that Hunter had access to his father's files.

00:25:28.340 We know that dad was leaving classified documents just about everywhere.

00:25:34.980 Sitting, who puts classified documents in the garage next to their classic Corvette,

00:25:40.360 which Hunter Biden was living in Joe Biden's house, was driving the Corvette, like, it's remarkable.

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00:26:55.100 I want to give people an update on another very important story that's really gone viral,

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00:28:37.000 Senator, for people that missed this, a Biden judicial nominee was asked a basic question about the Constitution.

00:28:45.740 I'm going to play that for people just so they, if you missed this, it's amazing.

00:28:49.620 This is Senator Kennedy asking very basic questions. Here it is.

00:28:53.320 Judge, on the far end, tell me what Article 5 of the Constitution does.

00:29:00.460 Article 5 is not coming to mind at the moment.

00:29:03.660 Okay. How about Article 2?

00:29:05.020 Neither is Article 2.

00:29:07.740 Okay. Do you know what purposivism is?

00:29:11.700 In my 12 years as an Assistant Attorney General and my 9 years serving as a judge,

00:29:19.280 I was not faced with that precise question.

00:29:22.740 We are the highest trial court in Washington State,

00:29:25.820 so I'm frequently faced with issues that I'm not familiar with,

00:29:30.500 and I thoroughly review the law, our research, and apply the law to the facts presented to me.

00:29:36.880 Well, you're going to be faced with it if you're confirmed.

00:29:40.640 I can assure you of that.

00:29:42.460 I mean, Senator, it's still shocking when you hear it,

00:29:45.480 but we talked about this on this show,

00:29:48.720 and this has really exploded to the point now

00:29:51.040 where Democrats are having to come in and defend this and try to normalize this.

00:29:55.240 Dick Durbin, one of your colleagues, is one of the people trying to save this.

00:30:00.220 Give people kind of an update of what's happening in D.C.

00:30:03.320 Well, first of all, let me explain what the questions are that John Kennedy asked.

00:30:07.300 So Article 5 of the Constitution is the article of the Constitution

00:30:10.140 that provides how amendments are made to the Constitution,

00:30:12.880 and it is the process, it is how we got the Bill of Rights.

00:30:17.600 It is how we've got every amendment to the Constitution is through Article 5.

00:30:22.000 Article 2 of the Constitution is even more fundamental.

00:30:24.680 So the first three articles of the Constitution,

00:30:26.600 Article 1 creates the legislature,

00:30:29.480 invests all legislative power in the Congress,

00:30:32.180 the House of Representatives, and the Senate.

00:30:34.360 Article 2, which is what Kennedy asked about,

00:30:37.700 creates the President of the United States and the entire executive branch.

00:30:41.920 It is the executive, it is an incredibly important article of the Constitution.

00:30:46.840 Article 3 is what creates the judiciary.

00:30:50.160 So this woman has been nominated to be what's called an Article 3 judge, 0.99

00:30:54.340 which means she's nominated by the President,

00:30:56.760 confirmed by the Senate, and then enjoys life tenure.

00:30:59.400 She's a federal judge.

00:31:00.980 For a first-year law student to not know what Article 2 of the Constitution is,

00:31:08.900 you would flunk constitutional law.

00:31:12.400 Like, this may be something that an ordinary layperson might not know,

00:31:16.940 but any, not even any lawyer, any law student,

00:31:21.040 to not know Article 2 is stunning.

00:31:23.520 For somebody that wants to be a federal judge,

00:31:26.780 wants to be an Article 3 federal judge,

00:31:29.240 to have no idea what an Article 3 federal judge is,

00:31:32.840 is remarkable.

00:31:34.440 And so, Dick Durbin, the chairman of the Judiciary Committee,

00:31:36.860 and mind you, the Democrats have confirmed every single,

00:31:40.000 100% of the judges nominated by Joe Biden, the Democrats have confirmed.

00:31:44.100 Not a single Democrat senator has voted against a single Joe Biden nominee,

00:31:48.480 and he has nominated the most radical, the most extreme,

00:31:51.620 and in many cases, the most unqualified judicial nominees I've ever seen.

00:31:57.200 So, Durbin said this week that he's confident that Sharnel Bajel-Kengren,

00:32:05.840 which is the woman who didn't know the answers to that, 0.99

00:32:09.100 will be confirmed.

00:32:10.500 And here's the quote from Durbin.

00:32:12.720 The honest answer is,

00:32:15.460 there aren't many members of the Judiciary Committee

00:32:18.380 who can answer all those questions.

00:32:22.400 Well, let me say, if Dick Durbin's defense is,

00:32:26.320 you know, we got Democrat members of the Judiciary Committee

00:32:28.980 who have no friggin' idea what Article 2 is,

00:32:33.280 let me tell you right now, Ben, 0.79

00:32:35.160 those people need to get the hell off the Judiciary Committee. 1.00

00:32:37.200 Like, if you don't know what Article 2 of the Constitution is,

00:32:41.340 this is not complicated.

00:32:43.020 John Kennedy was not asking some obscure gotcha question.

00:32:47.100 There are unfair questions you can ask.

00:32:49.240 You know, you see it in presidential elections

00:32:51.100 where you get someone that says, you know,

00:32:53.580 who's the foreign minister of Azerbaijan?

00:32:55.920 And, you know, the candidate will be like,

00:32:57.620 I don't know, and they're like, 1.00

00:32:58.840 ah, you're a moron. 1.00

00:33:01.120 These were not obscure gotcha questions. 1.00

00:33:04.700 You know, this is like somebody who is interviewing

00:33:08.680 to be a sports broadcaster for the NFL,

00:33:11.440 and they say, okay, how many points do you get

00:33:14.640 for kicking a field goal?

00:33:16.680 And the person says, I have not reviewed field goals recently.

00:33:21.020 Like, it is that level of like,

00:33:24.160 if you don't know what Article 2 of the Constitution is,

00:33:27.780 you shouldn't be a judge.

00:33:29.220 And by the way, Dick Durbin,

00:33:30.760 if your defense is, well, gosh,

00:33:33.320 the Democrats we put on this committee, 1.00

00:33:35.340 we're as ignorant as these nominees, 1.00

00:33:38.180 that ain't a very good defense. 1.00

00:33:40.400 It doesn't.

00:33:41.180 It's not a very good defense.

00:33:42.240 And yet, that's all they're left with.

00:33:43.600 I mean, when you have to defend the indefensible,

00:33:47.120 and that's what this basically is,

00:33:49.320 I guess you just say, okay, 1.00

00:33:50.480 I'm going to look like an idiot too, 1.00

00:33:52.080 and take one for the team to try to salvage this. 0.99

00:33:54.540 I mean, do you think there's any chance

00:33:55.620 they don't confirm her?

00:33:56.620 Because like you said,

00:33:57.940 they have confirmed every single judge

00:33:59.760 that's come before them

00:34:00.500 and from the Democratic side from Biden.

00:34:02.760 Look, I think they believe

00:34:04.860 the press will not hold them accountable.

00:34:09.100 And so they can just party line vote everyone.

00:34:13.380 This is an embarrassing judicial nomination.

00:34:15.940 And, you know, I'm reminded

00:34:17.380 of a similar example in the Trump administration.

00:34:22.700 So in 2017,

00:34:24.320 the first year of the Trump presidency,

00:34:25.720 Trump nominated a fellow named Matthew Peterson

00:34:29.060 to be a federal judge.

00:34:30.820 He was a commissioner

00:34:31.540 on the Federal Election Commission.

00:34:33.420 And he went before the Judiciary Committee.

00:34:35.440 And once again, John Kennedy,

00:34:37.100 my friend, senator from Louisiana,

00:34:39.500 asked him some fairly basic legal questions.

00:34:42.460 And he did spectacularly poorly.

00:34:46.260 In fact, take a listen

00:34:47.700 to John Kennedy's questioning

00:34:49.300 of Matthew Peterson,

00:34:50.460 a Trump judicial nominee in 2017.

00:34:53.100 Have you ever tried a jury trial?

00:34:57.140 I have not.

00:34:58.240 Civil?

00:34:59.220 No.

00:35:00.360 Criminal?

00:35:01.300 No.

00:35:01.960 Bench?

00:35:02.780 No.

00:35:03.820 State or federal court?

00:35:05.360 I have not.

00:35:06.320 Okay.

00:35:06.940 Have you ever taken a deposition?

00:35:09.440 I was involved in taking depositions

00:35:11.340 when I was associate

00:35:12.380 at Wiley Ryan

00:35:13.600 when I first came out of law school.

00:35:15.800 But that was...

00:35:18.800 Have you ever...

00:35:19.880 How many depositions?

00:35:22.820 I would...

00:35:23.880 I'd be struggling to remember.

00:35:27.820 Less than 10?

00:35:29.140 Yes.

00:35:29.640 Less than 5?

00:35:31.140 Probably somewhere in that range.

00:35:33.020 Have you ever tried to...

00:35:33.840 Taken a deposition by yourself?

00:35:37.860 I'd believe no.

00:35:39.280 Okay.

00:35:40.540 Have you ever argued a motion

00:35:42.220 in state court?

00:35:43.560 I have not.

00:35:44.280 Have you ever argued a motion

00:35:46.240 in federal court?

00:35:47.580 No.

00:35:49.360 When's the last time

00:35:50.360 you read the federal rules

00:35:53.180 of civil procedure?

00:35:55.300 The federal rules

00:35:56.200 of civil procedure?

00:35:58.220 I have...

00:35:59.280 In my current position,

00:36:01.700 I obviously don't need to stay

00:36:02.740 as...

00:36:04.320 You know,

00:36:07.240 invested in those

00:36:08.740 on a day-to-day basis,

00:36:09.700 but I do try to keep up to speed.

00:36:11.400 We do have...

00:36:12.280 At the Federal Election Commission,

00:36:15.540 roughly 70 attorneys

00:36:16.960 who work under our guidance,

00:36:19.720 including a large litigation division.

00:36:22.560 And as a commissioner,

00:36:24.640 we oversee that litigation.

00:36:26.180 We advise them on overall

00:36:27.240 legal strategy,

00:36:29.200 provide recommendations

00:36:32.180 and edits to briefs

00:36:33.840 and so forth,

00:36:34.340 and meet with them

00:36:34.900 about how we're going to handle...

00:36:36.900 If I could ask you this,

00:36:37.860 I'm sorry to interrupt you,

00:36:38.980 but we're only given

00:36:40.480 five minutes for five of you.

00:36:42.160 Sure.

00:36:43.500 When's the last time

00:36:44.420 you read the federal rules

00:36:45.420 of evidence?

00:36:47.020 The federal rules

00:36:48.200 of evidence

00:36:48.520 all the way through

00:36:49.180 would...

00:36:49.900 Well,

00:36:51.840 comprehensively,

00:36:52.740 would have been

00:36:53.040 in law school.

00:36:54.620 Obviously,

00:36:55.280 I have been involved

00:36:56.660 in...

00:36:57.340 When I was an associate,

00:36:58.700 that was something

00:37:02.220 that we had to stay

00:37:03.280 closely abreast of.

00:37:05.920 And there have been

00:37:08.580 some issues

00:37:09.580 dealing with evidentiary issues

00:37:11.040 that will cause me

00:37:12.540 to examine those periodically

00:37:15.280 in our oversight role

00:37:17.640 at the litigation division

00:37:18.580 at the Federal Election Commission.

00:37:20.380 Okay.

00:37:21.640 Well,

00:37:22.220 as a trial judge,

00:37:23.200 you're obviously going

00:37:24.100 to have witnesses.

00:37:25.740 Yes.

00:37:25.880 Can you tell me

00:37:26.500 what the Dobear standard is?

00:37:30.960 Senator Kennedy,

00:37:31.900 I don't have that readily

00:37:33.920 at my disposal,

00:37:36.680 but I would be happy

00:37:38.320 to take a closer look at that.

00:37:40.580 Okay.

00:37:40.960 That is not something

00:37:41.860 that I've had to contend with.

00:37:44.360 Do you know

00:37:45.260 what a motion in limine is?

00:37:49.660 Yes,

00:37:50.180 I haven't.

00:37:51.740 Again,

00:37:52.500 my background

00:37:53.380 is not in litigation

00:37:55.440 as when I was

00:37:57.060 replying to

00:37:58.340 Chairman Grassley.

00:37:59.980 I haven't had to,

00:38:01.300 again,

00:38:05.200 do a deep dive.

00:38:06.200 And I understand,

00:38:07.580 and I appreciate

00:38:08.420 this line of questioning.

00:38:09.880 I understand

00:38:10.420 the challenge

00:38:11.680 that would be ahead of me

00:38:12.300 if I were fortunate enough

00:38:13.360 to become a district court judge.

00:38:15.240 I understand

00:38:15.740 that the path

00:38:18.100 that many successful

00:38:19.720 district court judges

00:38:21.840 have taken

00:38:22.400 has been a different one

00:38:23.340 than I have taken.

00:38:23.960 So,

00:38:25.680 that was a Trump

00:38:27.480 judicial nominee,

00:38:29.420 the first year

00:38:30.300 of Trump's presidency.

00:38:32.460 Now,

00:38:33.100 some of the questions

00:38:34.240 that John Kennedy asked

00:38:36.560 are particular

00:38:38.480 to trying cases,

00:38:39.440 something like

00:38:39.900 the Doberr Standard.

00:38:40.880 If you're not

00:38:41.700 a trial lawyer,

00:38:43.300 you probably don't know

00:38:44.060 what it is.

00:38:44.640 It's from a Supreme Court case,

00:38:46.160 and it lays out

00:38:46.780 the standard

00:38:47.340 to assess

00:38:48.080 a witness's

00:38:49.900 expert testimony

00:38:50.960 and scientific testimony,

00:38:52.160 whether it's valid,

00:38:53.180 whether it's admissible.

00:38:55.280 Likewise,

00:38:55.920 a motion in limine.

00:38:56.920 If you're not

00:38:57.600 a trial lawyer,

00:38:58.200 you wouldn't necessarily

00:38:59.340 know that.

00:38:59.840 A motion in limine

00:39:00.480 is a motion

00:39:01.180 that is made

00:39:02.260 to the judge

00:39:02.740 outside the presence

00:39:03.580 of the jury,

00:39:04.420 and it's to request

00:39:06.240 that testimony

00:39:06.960 be excluded

00:39:08.060 from consideration

00:39:09.420 by the jury.

00:39:10.420 Now,

00:39:11.280 if you're being nominated

00:39:12.640 to be ambassador

00:39:14.100 to Peru,

00:39:15.740 you don't need

00:39:16.280 to know

00:39:16.560 the Doberr Standard.

00:39:17.360 You don't need

00:39:17.660 to know a motion in limine,

00:39:18.720 because that's

00:39:19.080 not your job.

00:39:19.780 You do need

00:39:20.100 to know something

00:39:20.520 about Peru,

00:39:21.180 presumably.

00:39:22.340 But if you're

00:39:23.820 being nominated

00:39:24.520 to be a federal

00:39:25.800 district judge,

00:39:27.040 where you're going

00:39:27.880 to wear a black robe

00:39:28.720 and sit on the bench

00:39:29.540 and preside

00:39:30.260 over trials,

00:39:31.440 where lawyers

00:39:32.560 are going to make

00:39:33.360 motions in limine,

00:39:34.240 and it'd be really good

00:39:35.000 if you said,

00:39:35.780 I'm sorry,

00:39:37.020 counsel,

00:39:37.320 what is that?

00:39:38.840 This was,

00:39:40.260 when this questioning

00:39:41.660 happened,

00:39:42.300 I got to admit,

00:39:43.100 for the rest of us,

00:39:43.980 it was a little bit

00:39:44.780 like watching

00:39:45.640 a train wreck

00:39:48.220 where you just

00:39:49.360 stopped.

00:39:50.180 I mean,

00:39:50.360 you felt horrified,

00:39:51.860 and listen,

00:39:52.500 this fellow,

00:39:53.380 Matthew Peterson,

00:39:54.240 as far as I know,

00:39:55.040 is a very nice guy.

00:39:55.860 I don't know him.

00:39:57.340 He's,

00:39:57.940 you know,

00:39:58.260 he was a Republican,

00:40:00.400 presumably a conservative.

00:40:01.340 He was on the Federal

00:40:02.020 Election Commission,

00:40:03.140 but he was not qualified

00:40:04.960 to be a federal

00:40:05.780 district judge.

00:40:07.340 Here's what happened

00:40:08.500 after that questioning.

00:40:10.760 The Republicans

00:40:11.620 on the Judiciary Committee

00:40:12.980 to a person said,

00:40:14.780 this is a problem.

00:40:17.280 And the Trump White House

00:40:18.520 withdrew the nomination.

00:40:20.200 They said,

00:40:21.220 okay,

00:40:21.620 we can't do this.

00:40:23.240 We can't,

00:40:23.840 and look,

00:40:24.380 sometimes the White House

00:40:25.160 screws up.

00:40:25.700 They put someone, 0.98

00:40:26.540 they put the wrong person forward.

00:40:28.040 It doesn't go well,

00:40:28.780 and they say,

00:40:29.200 okay,

00:40:29.960 rewind.

00:40:30.420 And by the way,

00:40:30.860 there were several nominees

00:40:32.120 that were put forward

00:40:33.100 by the Trump White House

00:40:34.120 that the Senate,

00:40:36.080 the Republicans in the Senate,

00:40:37.700 raised issues with

00:40:38.780 and said, hey,

00:40:40.040 this person's not

00:40:41.020 the right choice.

00:40:41.760 We're Republicans.

00:40:42.600 We generally support

00:40:43.660 what you're doing,

00:40:44.820 but we're going to impose

00:40:46.640 some standards of quality,

00:40:48.500 and in this case,

00:40:50.060 you've got to be qualified

00:40:51.120 to do the job.

00:40:52.540 What is amazing

00:40:53.520 is Dick Durbin

00:40:54.420 and the Democrats

00:40:55.000 are digging in

00:40:55.700 and saying,

00:40:56.200 it doesn't matter

00:40:57.400 if our judicial nominees

00:40:59.340 have no idea

00:41:01.040 what's in the United States

00:41:02.140 Constitution.

00:41:02.780 If they don't know

00:41:03.520 what Article 2 is,

00:41:04.420 it doesn't matter.

00:41:06.060 We're Democrats. 1.00

00:41:07.420 Damn the torpedoes. 1.00

00:41:08.520 We don't care 1.00

00:41:09.120 about the substance.

00:41:10.120 We're going to stick to it,

00:41:11.360 and you know what we know?

00:41:13.420 Not a single reporter

00:41:14.960 back home

00:41:15.660 is going to ask us,

00:41:16.860 wait,

00:41:17.360 why did you vote

00:41:18.280 to confirm someone

00:41:19.240 that knows nothing

00:41:21.160 about the United States

00:41:22.260 Constitution

00:41:22.820 to be a federal judge?

00:41:24.580 Isn't that an important step?

00:41:27.020 I don't understand

00:41:28.360 why there's not a Democrat

00:41:30.160 willing to call

00:41:31.820 the Biden White House

00:41:32.720 and say,

00:41:33.160 hey, 0.94

00:41:33.900 kind of screwed up

00:41:34.620 on this one.

00:41:35.640 Let's go back

00:41:36.380 to the drawing board.

00:41:37.240 Let's find someone else.

00:41:38.460 We can find

00:41:38.940 a left-wing radical.

00:41:39.960 We've got lots of those.

00:41:41.620 But let's find

00:41:42.280 a left-wing radical

00:41:43.140 that actually knows

00:41:44.200 what Article 2

00:41:44.840 of the Constitution is.

00:41:46.520 To date,

00:41:47.220 not a single Democrat

00:41:48.140 has been willing

00:41:48.580 to do that.

00:41:49.440 It's incredible.

00:41:50.340 And I think

00:41:50.980 that just tells you

00:41:51.900 how partisan

00:41:53.260 the Democratic Party

00:41:54.640 is when they just say,

00:41:55.860 we want something,

00:41:57.100 there's no logic,

00:41:58.160 there's no reason behind it,

00:41:59.380 and this is proof of that.

00:41:59.960 But it's not just partisan.

00:42:03.260 It's also that they believe

00:42:05.140 they will have no scrutiny.

00:42:06.960 It is because

00:42:07.880 the corporate media

00:42:09.500 is corrupt

00:42:10.320 that they can do this

00:42:12.500 and know when they get home

00:42:14.820 they will get

00:42:15.420 lovey-dovey questions

00:42:16.680 like Joe Biden gets

00:42:18.060 of, you know,

00:42:18.540 what's your favorite flavor

00:42:19.580 of ice cream?

00:42:20.940 Rather than actually,

00:42:22.800 you know,

00:42:23.140 I'd be embarrassed.

00:42:24.600 I'm, you know,

00:42:25.340 I'd be embarrassed

00:42:26.140 to vote to confirm

00:42:27.200 a judge like this.

00:42:28.220 the Democrats

00:42:29.680 don't feel any embarrassment

00:42:31.300 because the press

00:42:32.500 will bury it

00:42:33.740 and ignore it.

00:42:35.680 Yeah.

00:42:36.000 And this is what

00:42:37.140 the problem is,

00:42:37.880 I think,

00:42:38.220 with so many Americans

00:42:39.100 they just get so frustrated,

00:42:41.200 flabbergasted

00:42:41.940 by the fact that

00:42:42.900 this is how business

00:42:43.820 can be done.

00:42:44.860 Certainly on the Democratic side

00:42:46.000 at least there's

00:42:46.580 putting some pressure,

00:42:47.580 at least Durbin's now

00:42:48.460 at least having to come out

00:42:49.480 and try to save this.

00:42:51.020 And as you said,

00:42:52.200 you believe they'll probably

00:42:53.160 get, you know,

00:42:53.960 confirmed because

00:42:54.880 this is the Democratic Party

00:42:56.820 in 2023.

00:42:57.620 All right.

00:42:58.360 By the way, Ben,

00:42:59.700 so this podcast

00:43:00.460 comes out Wednesday morning.

00:43:02.680 Thursday morning

00:43:03.400 we're scheduled

00:43:03.920 to have a markup

00:43:05.000 in judiciary.

00:43:06.260 I'll tell you

00:43:06.940 what I intend to do

00:43:08.180 Thursday morning.

00:43:09.160 We're going to have

00:43:09.460 a markup.

00:43:10.520 Now I'm intrigued.

00:43:11.580 I am going to quote

00:43:12.900 Dick Durbin,

00:43:14.460 who says many of the

00:43:16.160 members of this committee

00:43:17.140 cannot answer

00:43:17.940 these questions.

00:43:18.660 And I'm going to look

00:43:19.200 at my Democrat colleagues

00:43:20.260 and I'm going to say,

00:43:21.660 let me ask you,

00:43:23.220 are there any members

00:43:24.280 of this committee

00:43:25.080 who don't know

00:43:26.700 what Article 2

00:43:27.420 of the Constitution is?

00:43:29.020 Because if there are,

00:43:30.640 you need to pull the hell

00:43:31.640 off this committee

00:43:32.300 and get on another committee.

00:43:33.900 Like, that is an astonishing

00:43:35.640 statement for the chairman

00:43:37.000 to make.

00:43:37.760 Oh, our members 0.56

00:43:38.640 have no frigging idea 0.85

00:43:39.780 what's in the Constitution 0.53

00:43:40.780 and that's our defense.

00:43:42.780 I don't know

00:43:43.860 how they'll respond

00:43:45.540 and I actually am quite confident

00:43:47.040 that zero Democrats

00:43:48.800 on the committee

00:43:49.480 listen to this podcast.

00:43:50.540 They won't know

00:43:52.940 it's coming.

00:43:53.720 I'm previewing

00:43:54.720 what I'm going to do tomorrow

00:43:56.040 and I have an absolute

00:43:58.340 certitude

00:43:59.080 they will have no idea.

00:44:00.760 And I promise everybody

00:44:02.020 we will give you an update

00:44:03.200 and we will count.

00:44:04.480 That is the easy part.

00:44:05.900 Senator,

00:44:06.460 always a pleasure.

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Verdict with Ted Cruz - February 01, 2023

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