Verdict with Ted Cruz - June 26, 2026


Fiery Trump Lunch with Senate GOP plus Three Blockbuster Supreme Court WINS on Second Amendment & Immigration


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Ted Cruz and Ben Fergus Ferguson join host Jack Armstrong and Getty to discuss the 4th of July and how they plan to spend it in Washington, D.C. as well as the latest in the Trump-Cassidy feud.

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00:02:07.180 Welcome. It is Vertical Center Ted Cruz, Ben Ferguson with you as well.
00:02:11.060 And it's nice to have you with us, Senator.
00:02:12.700 We got a one heck of a show with a lot of behind the scenes action happening with the luncheon you were in with a lot of other senators and President Donald Trump.
00:02:21.600 Well, that's right.
00:02:22.560 this week, President Trump came to join the Senate Republican lunch, and he was in there for
00:02:28.360 about a full hour, and it was a contentious lunch. You know, what I said to reporters afterwards,
00:02:36.280 I think the adjective I used was spirited, and to use another Washington euphemism,
00:02:46.220 frank and candid conversation occurred uh and and the president was very upset in particular
00:02:55.300 at at four republican senators uh that had voted to use the war powers act uh to restrict his
00:03:02.700 authority in iran to to launch uh military actions against iran and he was extremely displeased uh
00:03:11.720 with that vote, and it then proceeded. As a matter of policy, I don't repeat what my colleagues have
00:03:20.640 said, but at this point, it has been universally reported that the president and Bill Cassidy,
00:03:26.500 the senator from Louisiana, got into a screaming match, and it was as tense as anything I've ever
00:03:31.780 seen. Cassidy himself has confirmed that to the press afterwards. Now, obviously, President Trump
00:03:39.480 endorsed against bill cassidy uh in his primary in louisiana and and defeated bill so he he is
00:03:47.420 not there that there's a runoff uh in louisiana and and bill did not make the top two he was third
00:03:53.600 in the race and and so uh and cassidy uh in turn had previously voted to convict president trump
00:04:00.820 during the trump impeachment and so the president understandably was not happy about the vote to
00:04:06.420 convicted him in impeachment and was not happy with Bill's vote to limit his ability to defend
00:04:14.980 this nation and launch military attacks against Iran. You know, that's interesting, the part there,
00:04:21.000 and obviously you guys have these lunches, and I want to be respectful of you and others that are,
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00:06:22.560 So, Senator, a lot of this has been reported on.
00:06:24.300 There's a lot on X about this right now with Cassie.
00:06:26.520 Were you and were your colleagues kind of expecting that there was going to be some sort of moment because sometimes people telegraph beforehand?
00:06:34.100 Or were you and others taken just kind of shocked by how that went in?
00:06:38.380 The intensity of it. Look, look, it probably needed to be gotten out.
00:06:44.740 But but the intensity of it was, you know, I'm reading what what Cassidy said.
00:06:51.060 So, for example, here's what The New York Post has reported.
00:06:54.340 President Trump and Senator Bill Cassidy got into a shouting match during a lunch meeting Wednesday over the U.S. war with Iran.
00:07:01.860 GOP senators described Trump as being, quote, mad as a murder hornet, raising his voice at the Louisiana Republican.
00:07:09.460 Cassidy, and this is Cassidy's public comments, so I'm happy to repeat those.
00:07:13.260 Cassidy, who later quipped that the talks went swimmingly, called the president, my brother, several times during the heated exchange, Senate GOP sources said.
00:07:23.460 The president spat back that Cassidy wasn't his brother and told him to sit down.
00:07:27.800 And here's what Cassidy told reporters.
00:07:32.220 Quote, Trump did not particularly care for my comments, raised his voice.
00:07:36.320 I lost my temper.
00:07:38.000 It's the Irish in me. 1.00
00:07:39.460 But again, I matched his tone and volume.
00:07:41.520 And so it went back and forth.
00:07:42.880 And then he went on to say, so I sat down and tried to deescalate.
00:07:47.160 It was it was very intense.
00:07:49.500 But I'll tell you what, it had an interesting effect, as intense as it was, because we had another vote after that exchange on the war powers, and Cassidy switched his vote.
00:08:02.560 And there was also an exchange, Rand Paul had voted, he was one of the four, and listen, the President and Rand have a friendship.
00:08:11.660 He and Rand disagree on a lot of issues, but the President likes Rand, and so it was a very different exchange with Rand than it was with Cassidy.
00:08:20.300 And Rand did something which I've never seen him do before, which is he voted present rather than voting for the War Powers Resolution.
00:08:29.560 And so those two votes changed.
00:08:31.160 And Rand put out a statement explaining that he was doing that.
00:08:34.040 But I respected that Rand did that.
00:08:35.740 In particular, look, the president's case, and I thought it was quite reasonable, is he said, we're in the middle of negotiating with Iran, and while we're negotiating with Iran, it comes over the TV that the Senate has blocked me from being able to continue with conducting the war.
00:08:54.260 And he said, you completely undercut my ability to negotiate with Iran. 0.56
00:08:58.980 And I think the president, that was a very understandable point and a fair point. 0.89
00:09:05.260 And it ended up moving those two votes.
00:09:10.700 Well, when you're an average person listening right now, and there's a lot of people listening that are in states where these senators who have lost and others have said no, did this.
00:09:20.500 How frustrated should they be?
00:09:22.640 And is that justifiable or is it just understanding the politics of this moment?
00:09:26.960 Look, the politics of this moment are unique and Donald Trump is is a black swan event.
00:09:35.660 There is nobody else in public life. There is no other Donald Trump.
00:09:39.120 And so he will say things. He is regularly that there are different senators that he disagrees with.
00:09:45.980 And when he disagrees with you, he can do it with with both barrels.
00:09:49.420 And, you know, I've been on the receiving end of that, but that was a decade ago when we were running against each other.
00:09:56.960 And to be fair, I've criticized him. He's criticized me.
00:10:00.140 I'm now his strongest ally in the Senate, and we're very good friends now.
00:10:03.780 But he is willing to take the bark off someone, and that was certainly true in the Senate lunch this week.
00:10:11.960 All right. One of the reasons why I love doing this show is we get to take you behind the scenes,
00:10:15.420 especially when there's big deals like this Republican lunch with with Donald Trump and
00:10:20.380 Senator Cruz taking us behind the scenes about that I know one of the big questions everyone
00:10:23.860 listening right now is going to ask Senator is all right was the Save Act mentioned and what was said
00:10:28.260 well sure the president urged the Senate to pass the Save America Act and and I strongly agree with
00:10:34.460 him on that I'm I'm an original sponsor of the Save America Act I've been making the case to
00:10:38.960 my colleagues for months that that we should do everything humanly possible to pass the Save
00:10:44.580 America Act. In particular, we should force the Democrats to do a talking filibuster, to stand up
00:10:50.120 and talk and talk and talk, just like Jimmy Stewart did in Mr. Smith Goes to Washington,
00:10:55.580 just like I did when I filibustered for 21 hours against Obamacare. And we should
00:11:01.760 keep the Senate in session and make them work and make them fight. The president made that case
00:11:06.440 vigorously. The difficulty is there are several Republicans in the Senate who oppose him on that.
00:11:12.400 And so it ended up not being a huge part of what was discussed.
00:11:17.020 It was the president talked about it for a few minutes and pressed his case.
00:11:21.320 And I very much agree with him on that. But I would say 90 percent of the discussion was about Iran and and in particular how mad he was at the War Powers vote that that he felt that that vote had really undercut him.
00:11:35.140 And he was and then it blew up, as we just described, where he and Cassidy really went at each other.
00:11:41.180 Senator, I want to go back to the filibuster you mentioned. This has been talked about so much on TV. You have a lot of allies there that are advocating for what you just talked about and the idea of having this talking filibuster. You famously have done this before. But in this scenario, would it look just like one man talking or with so many different allies that you have that talked about this publicly? Would it be multiple people asking questions? Is that part of the reason why it's an intriguing idea?
00:12:06.680 Yeah. Well, look, part of what you would do is is the Senate can keep itself in one legislative day for days, for weeks, for months, potentially.
00:12:18.680 And there is a rule in the Senate that is the two speech rule, which is that which is that a senator can't speak more than twice in a single legislative day.
00:12:27.060 And so the approach would be to exhaust the Democrats, to make them talk, to make them stand up there and keep talking and talking.
00:12:34.180 they can people can ask questions and if the senator speaking wants to yield for a question
00:12:39.800 they can the the challenge of doing that is it would require the republicans keeping at least
00:12:45.860 50 of us nearby to be able to produce a quorum because one of the ways the democrats would fight
00:12:52.420 us is is they would suggest the absence of a quorum and as i said we've got several republican
00:12:58.280 senators who are resisting that yeah and that's that's part of the reporting that's been
00:13:04.200 interesting as you described it that's look the president knows how to count as well
00:13:08.020 he also did and there was a moment where he he came out after the meeting and he did say this
00:13:13.700 to the american people and i want to play it for you great meeting and we're very proud of the
00:13:20.860 party like everybody really in the room i don't like a few people but that's okay i think you
00:13:26.080 know who they are but we i'll give you i'll give you that information someday but for the most part
00:13:32.120 we have a really well unified party and i said it very strongly we have the hottest country anywhere
00:13:37.860 in the world we're the most powerful we're the smartest we're the most respected two years ago
00:13:42.900 we were a laughing stock all over the world we had a terrible group of people representatives
00:13:48.340 every leader i just left g7 every leader and we had a lot of people in addition to g7 as you know
00:13:54.720 came. Everyone said what we've done in a year and a half is a miracle. We have the hottest country
00:14:01.200 in the world and we want to keep it that way. We have more factories being built right now
00:14:06.500 than we have at any point at any time in the history of our country. And all of those factories
00:14:11.900 are opening up soon. It's all jobs. And our job numbers are incredible anyway. I see that oil
00:14:19.480 just broke the $70 number.
00:14:22.980 Who would have thought that was going to happen?
00:14:25.060 And that's during a war.
00:14:26.180 And Iran is being very nice.
00:14:28.280 They're agreeing to everything that I want,
00:14:30.480 and they have to.
00:14:31.880 Otherwise, we just go back and do what we have to do.
00:14:34.460 Thank you very much.
00:14:35.940 By the way, the interesting part there in that
00:14:38.160 is the way he described Iran doing what he wants right now,
00:14:41.480 and they're being, quote, very nice.
00:14:42.980 That's some breaking news.
00:14:44.480 Well, that's been very much what the president has been saying.
00:14:47.740 And, you know, I will say, listening to the president in that news conference, it reminds me, this week I was joking with Senator Bernie Moreno.
00:14:58.920 We were like, you know, boy, the president got pretty hot under the collar, and I made a wisecrack. 0.85
00:15:03.460 I said, you know, I think the president must be Latino, because that was some Latin temper there. 0.99
00:15:10.020 And Bernie came back, and he said, you know, I think you're right. 0.99
00:15:13.120 And just like a Latino, he gets mad, and then he's just fine, like, moments afterwards. 1.00
00:15:17.520 And, you know, by the press conference, I mean, he was pissed in that room and then the press conference, he was rightly focusing on the unity we have, although I wouldn't say there was a ton of unity in that particular lunch, but the unity we have more broadly and everything we're getting accomplished. 1.00
00:15:35.300 And so I think that was valuable.
00:15:37.720 You know, it was also interesting on the Iran deal.
00:15:41.540 He was mad about the war powers vote, but he did not.
00:15:45.580 Listen, I've been quite public and vocal that I'm concerned that the president is getting very bad advice on this deal. 0.86
00:15:56.080 And I think it is – history is clear that giving billions of dollars to theocratic lunatics who want to murder us is a very bad idea.
00:16:08.060 And the terms of the Memorandum of Understanding that J.D. Vance negotiated say the United States with regional partners will provide $300 billion to the Ayatollah and the mullahs in Iran. 0.57
00:16:22.320 And that, I think, is a really bad idea.
00:16:26.300 I don't think it is in U.S. national security interest.
00:16:29.220 What was interesting about the lunch is President Trump is well aware of my concerns and several other Republican senators have expressed concerns along those same lines.
00:16:41.140 And he didn't – he wasn't arguing with those.
00:16:44.280 I think he's hearing those concerns.
00:16:45.820 I'm glad he's hearing those concerns because I think those who are giving him the advice of sending billions of dollars to Iran I think are giving him poor advice.
00:16:56.160 uh and and that was not a major topic of the discussion at the lunch all right i want to
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00:18:53.740 Let's start with a big victory with the Supreme Court striking down a sweeping Hawaii gun law six to three. 0.85
00:19:02.480 This was big news.
00:19:03.620 And if you are a Second Amendment advocate like you and I are, you're glad about this.
00:19:07.380 Well, this week it was a major Second Amendment victory at the Supreme Court. The case is Wolford versus Lopez. And Hawaii had passed a really broad gun control law, and it was known as Act 52. It passed in 2023.
00:19:24.420 And it made it a crime for a licensed concealed carry holder to carry a firearm onto private property that is open to the public unless the owner gave express permission.
00:19:38.520 And the consequence of that would mean if you had a permit to concealed carry, you couldn't walk into, say, a grocery store.
00:19:47.500 You couldn't walk into an apartment store unless the owner explicitly said, I give you permission to carry a firearm here.
00:19:56.280 As a practical matter, that was a really broad ban on a right that is protected by the Constitution.
00:20:05.540 And so the Supreme Court struck it down. The vote was six to three. Justice Sam Alito wrote the majority. And what the court said is that, well, there were several opinions.
00:20:22.060 So Justice Alito wrote the main opinion. He was joined by Chief Justice Roberts, Justice Thomas, Gorsuch, Kavanaugh, and Barrett, and held that the Hawaii law burdened the right to bear arms.
00:20:34.120 The plaintiffs are – the Second Amendment says the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.
00:20:40.500 And the majority said that you can't take away that right that broadly and struck it down.
00:20:49.480 this is again i i love when we get these rulings and it reminds people just why presidential
00:20:54.700 elections are so important because these are the types of rulings that happen even after people
00:20:59.400 leave the white house and and and this is why it's important that we have a conservative majority on
00:21:03.680 the court uh that i i go back i gotta remind people you got a book coming out with clarence
00:21:08.480 thomas this is a perfect example of why having people like clarence thomas uh on the on the
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00:21:26.400 Thomas is the name of the book. It's coming out in August. It's a biography. It talks about his
00:21:31.080 life story. It talks about his jurisprudence. And actually, a big part of his jurisprudence
00:21:37.360 was highly relevant in this decision because what Hawaii argued is it went back on historical
00:21:43.660 evidence and argued that that hawaii had colonial laws uh that that gave it the power to do this
00:21:51.520 and and the supreme court said no uh those dealt with poaching or hunting or protecting rural land
00:21:57.880 and and sure you can't go on someone else's land and say hunt uh hunt wildlife on their land that's
00:22:03.580 very different from saying land that is open to the public like a gas station or grocery store
00:22:09.220 that you can just turn ordinary citizens exercising their constitutional rights automatically into criminals.
00:22:17.060 And Hawaii in particular pointed to an 1865 Louisiana Black Code statute as saying,
00:22:26.000 well, this gives us a basis for passing this law.
00:22:29.660 And Justice Alito's majority pointed out that that was a law that was designed to disarm freed black Americans who – this was right after the Civil War.
00:22:47.020 and and you look at these black codes they were driven by klansmen and and by the way the klansmen
00:22:54.760 were all democrats who did not want the newly freed slaves to be able to defend themselves
00:23:00.700 why because they wanted the clan to be able to terrorize them uh murder them threaten them with
00:23:06.540 violence and if they had a firearm to defend themselves uh that would be harder to do and and
00:23:11.520 justice thomas has written extensively about that doing the research during reconstruction
00:23:16.540 that that the long racist history of wanting to disarm African-Americans to make them vulnerable
00:23:26.040 to violence. And that played an important part in this Supreme Court decision this week.
00:23:31.340 Senator, there's one red flag here I want to raise. And not only did the Supreme Court
00:23:36.060 shut down what Hawaii was doing, but to be clear, Hawaii was attempting to make the Second Amendment
00:23:41.320 disappear from everyday life that is something that's concerning because this is now the
00:23:46.980 democratic party this is what they want to do they want to take away your right to protect and
00:23:51.280 defend yourself they want to take away your right to not only at home but anywhere at your business
00:23:55.480 or anywhere else and and they don't care what about our second amendment right at all that to
00:24:02.460 them is meaningless and you witness that here and that goes back to the dissent when you look at
00:24:07.720 this decision what were the other three saying because if you're dissenting to this i would
00:24:12.620 assume you'd have to make it based on the fact that well i don't even believe the second amendment
00:24:16.220 is an issue that spring court should even even take into consideration well there were three
00:24:21.480 dissenters uh justice kagan justice jackson and justice sotomayor and and all three of them would
00:24:27.860 have upheld the hawaii law uh and and they argued that the case was really about property law and
00:24:34.320 And they argued in particular that no one has a constitutional right to enter private property without consent.
00:24:41.920 And so it didn't matter whether you were armed or not.
00:24:45.560 It was simply property law.
00:24:46.880 But, you know, there have long been, number one, laws governing public accommodations.
00:24:52.420 So, for example, you can't have a hotel that only rents rooms to white people and not African Americans.
00:25:02.640 That's illegal under our civil rights laws that once you open it up at a public accommodation, you have to offer it freely to the people who come in.
00:25:10.760 And in this instance, shutting down those – look, it's one thing.
00:25:17.240 Anyone can exclude someone from their property.
00:25:19.440 No one has a right to enter your home or my home.
00:25:22.760 But when you open up your property, when you have a store or a gas station or whatever, and you're inviting people into your property, the effect of that would turn law-abiding citizens into criminals.
00:25:37.020 And that's because, listen, the left is not hiding that their objective, they want to erase the Second Amendment from the Constitution.
00:25:46.980 They want to ban the private ownership of firearms.
00:25:50.400 And Hawaii was taking a significant step in that direction by making it extremely difficult for people to carry a firearm and be able to defend themselves.
00:25:59.000 And, you know, Ben, you've got personal experience.
00:26:01.560 Tell folks your experience and how carrying a gun literally saved your life.
00:26:07.460 Yeah, I mean, I'm such an advocate for this.
00:26:09.820 It's the reason why I ended up buying a gun store and having a gun range and having the classes to get your permit to carry.
00:26:15.460 now it's constitutional carry in in tennessee and so many other states but being able to protect
00:26:19.780 and defend yourself if i didn't have a gun the night that i was a target of a gang initiation
00:26:23.680 uh you would have come to my funeral that's not a joke uh there was two two gang members it's
00:26:28.860 called getting blood in the gang and and one of the senior members it gets another guy in the gang
00:26:33.400 and they have to kill somebody and they do that so they have something on them so that the gang
00:26:38.040 members will never flip or narc or wear a wire because they can go to the police and and say hey
00:26:42.640 there's a shooting that happened at this time at this place and it's a it's a it's a it's a
00:26:47.360 brilliant business structure if you think about it i almost i when they explained it to me the
00:26:51.440 police did i was like okay wow that's that's shocking but i was able to use my firearm pull
00:26:57.120 it and shoot back and save my life and my best friend's life who happened to be with me and thank
00:27:01.720 goodness he wasn't shot either uh but it was it was a shootout and and i tell you like i look at
00:27:06.720 this hawaii and it's personal for me and any other state where they try to take away your right to
00:27:11.620 protect and defend yourself because you have that right that's what makes this country so great and
00:27:16.320 when you see these these supreme court justices who just say i don't care what that what america
00:27:21.220 was found i don't care about the second amendment and the same way in hawaii they basically said we
00:27:25.240 don't care what the laws were or are or what is in this country that makes it america we're just
00:27:31.060 going to change what we want to and having three supreme court justices who make the decision the
00:27:36.940 way that you just described it. It goes back to this is why presidential elections matter,
00:27:41.340 because when you lose, these are the types of people that get on the Supreme Court and they
00:27:46.040 can undo this country. Yeah. I mean, look, Gavin Newsom, who by any measure is one of
00:27:51.500 the leading frontrunners for the Democrat nomination for president, he tweeted out in
00:27:56.200 response to this, quote, gun laws keep people safe. This ruling by Trump's Supreme Court will
00:28:02.580 only endanger people. If Justice Alito really thinks people need guns to go to the grocery store
00:28:08.520 for self-defense, this country is truly broken. By the way, where were you when these gang
00:28:18.120 members tried to kill you? So I was in Memphis, Tennessee. It was literally a block and a half
00:28:24.120 from the entrance to the large Mid-South Fair. So when it happened, they put a gun to my head
00:28:30.600 at one point and there were a family with a stroller walking past us and he had to move the
00:28:35.260 gun from the side of my head down to the inside and he told me to shake his blanking hand i had
00:28:40.120 to shake hands with the guy that had just beat me up and it had a gun to my head that's how close
00:28:45.180 we were to the fair we actually didn't even have to dial 911 we just ran down the street to a
00:28:50.340 police officer that was directing traffic that's how close they were to us and the police officer
00:28:54.440 said we heard the gunshots uh and and so you know you look at those types of people that's what
00:28:59.560 you're up against and that's why you got to be able to protect and you got to be able to defend
00:29:03.740 yourself and if the democrats have their way you won't you won't be able to carry a firearm and
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00:29:48.800 citizen i'm celebrating america's 250th birthday on my podcast newt's world with 15 special episodes
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00:32:14.900 The Supreme Court also handed President Trump two major immigration victories.
00:32:20.580 And this was an exciting moment when it comes to immigration cases and victories that we needed.
00:32:25.440 Well, that's right.
00:32:26.740 6-3, the Supreme Court, there were two big wins.
00:32:29.940 One case was Mullen versus Doe.
00:32:31.900 The other case was Mullen versus Al Otro Lado, which is Spanish for on the other side.
00:32:38.400 And in both instances, it was 6-3.
00:32:41.380 Both instances, Justice Alito wrote the opinion.
00:32:43.540 So all three of these opinions were written by Justice Alito.
00:32:45.980 He had an incredibly strong week defending our rights.
00:32:49.020 One of the cases, the Mullen versus Al Otro Lado, what it concluded is that an illegal immigrant on the other side of the border in Mexico has not entered into the United States for purposes of immigration law.
00:33:05.440 And the Biden administration had adopted a policy where they treated illegal immigrants who weren't in the country as if they were in the country, and that they had a right to all sorts of processes before they come into the country.
00:33:20.780 Now, remember, starting in the first Trump term, President Trump implemented what was called the Remain in Mexico policy, which dramatically reduced illegal immigration in the first Trump term, and that was preventing illegal immigrants from coming to this country in the first place.
00:33:35.040 And this was an effort to to ignore the plain language of the of the immigration laws.
00:33:45.500 And I led an amicus brief. Amicus curiae is Latin for friend of the court.
00:33:51.660 And and I led an amicus brief that was joined by five members of Congress supporting the Trump administration's policy of stopping immigrants, prevent illegal immigrants, stopping them from coming into the country.
00:34:02.740 And the Supreme Court agreed with my brief, agreed with with the Trump Department of Justice, handed down that victory.
00:34:09.480 And then the other case, which which is Mullen versus Doe, the court concluded that that temporary protected status, which which the Biden administration had awarded to hundreds of thousands of Haitians and Syrians.
00:34:25.640 that that president trump could reverse that that it wasn't a permanent uh grant of amnesty
00:34:33.580 that decision likewise was was hugely important for the successes i mean remember in this second
00:34:39.700 trump term we have seen illegal border crossings drop 99 that's a staggering victory and the
00:34:46.820 supreme court upheld the president's ability to continue to continue enforcing the law
00:34:51.360 Yeah, it really is.
00:34:52.540 And I want people just to hear.
00:34:54.020 Shannon Bain said this on Fox News Channel about this.
00:34:56.720 I want to take a listen.
00:34:58.360 Here's how she described it in front of the Supreme Court.
00:35:01.160 ...and Syrian refugees who were here in the country.
00:35:03.940 And basically what the court has said is that they can't challenge this decision by the Department of Homeland Security,
00:35:11.080 by the administration, that they're the ones who get to make the assessment about whether they leave or not.
00:35:15.820 I haven't read the whole thing, but they do get into some of the claims that,
00:35:18.540 by some of those who are advocating for the Haitians refugees that there was some kind of
00:35:22.920 racial animus. The court says they don't see evidence of that. So I'll keep reading, but it's
00:35:28.320 another very fractured decision that seems to be a win for the Trump administration, which would be
00:35:32.200 the second win for them on immigration. That earlier decision that we talked about that came
00:35:36.420 out just a few minutes ago saying that if you get to the Mexico border, but you don't make it onto
00:35:40.720 U.S. soil, you can't file an asylum claim. So the Trump administration has to be happy about what
00:35:45.980 they've gotten today we've still got eight opinions left and it looks like monday will be so so you
00:35:51.940 hear her talk about this ruling in favor of trump this is another example of doing the right thing
00:35:56.480 may be tough you may go to the spring court but you're going to win in this scenario and by the
00:36:01.000 way both of these decisions were six three which means that the liberals on the court they don't
00:36:05.000 care what the statutory language says uh they just just just like in in the second amendment case
00:36:10.780 where they would effectively read the second amendment out of the bill of rights uh when it
00:36:15.060 comes to illegal immigration they would read out the ability to secure our border uh and they would
00:36:20.700 try instead embody the open border policies we saw during the biden administration compare how
00:36:26.200 shannon bream covered it on fox compare this to to ms now which is i guess what they're calling
00:36:32.120 msnbc now i don't even know that anyone watches the the show but but listen to the the the lefties
00:36:39.020 on MSNOW losing their minds. 0.95
00:36:41.760 Yeah, total meltdown.
00:36:42.860 Take a listen.
00:36:43.760 Fallon, I want your reaction to what Fallon just laid out for us there and the concept
00:36:48.540 here that the court is ignoring the history of this administration's remarks about Haitian
00:36:54.400 people in particular.
00:36:55.280 I don't think there is a single American who can say they actually forget what we heard
00:37:00.520 from the president, what we heard from Vice President Vance about Haitian people, just 0.96
00:37:04.620 some of the most disgusting and racist remarks you can imagine.
00:37:08.640 I know that you work with a number of Haitian clients.
00:37:12.340 Break down for me just how devastating all this is about to be. 1.00
00:37:15.700 Very devastating.
00:37:16.520 And I hope we stop talking about it as the Trump administration won or someone won,
00:37:20.840 because right now America lost.
00:37:22.100 There are going to be a lot of jobs that are open and a lot of people in home health care industries
00:37:25.920 that are not going to receive any service because their providers are going to be removed from the United States.
00:37:30.540 There are a lot of people who are going to die and suffer because of the account of this.
00:37:34.540 So I wish this court was more of a court of equity than they say they were a court of policy right now.
00:37:39.180 So I am the chair of the Haitian Bridge Alliance, which is the United States organization that represents these Haitians before the Supreme Court.
00:37:46.360 And we have made the argument that not just his comments, but also in the writings and just recently even the discovered e-mails from Kristi Noem about the clear conversations they've made about Haitians and black immigrants in general when you even look at the refugee policy.
00:37:59.440 And this court has said, even with that information, there's nothing for us to do here, which seems to be extremely problematic along party lines.
00:38:07.980 And today, you've seen something that I haven't seen in the Supreme Court in a very long time, is that you've seen the justice sort of read dissents that are 35 pages from the bar.
00:38:15.600 So even in the Supreme Court, you see not the harmony that generally exists there in peaceful dissent in saying that this is outside the norm.
00:38:23.280 And because it is outside the norm, because it isn't about just policy and procedure, this is about people and human engagement.
00:38:30.120 And the concept that people keep saying that the problem is that it's temporary status and it's been longer than temporary, well, change the word.
00:38:38.000 Don't put people's lives in danger because you feel that that arbitrarily moves something.
00:38:43.160 And as stated before, there are a million or so classes of TPS individuals who are here legally working.
00:38:47.840 So they're authorized. They've been vetted.
00:38:49.280 There's none of the concerns that you have with people who may come in undocumented, as well as they're supporting our economy.
00:38:55.560 And when you remove those individuals, you draw down all of those work areas.
00:38:59.580 So all those jobs they're doing, all of these companies that were relying on these TPS workers to work tomorrow are going to have to make decisions about them leaving today.
00:39:06.800 So this is not a big win that we think we're going to celebrate.
00:39:09.520 And there are 350 million or more Americans in the United States.
00:39:12.900 A million TPS holders are not causing some economic burden on the United States.
00:39:17.960 Senator, you listen to that, and you would think the sky is falling,
00:39:21.960 and that is how they're covering it on MSNOW, the former MSNBC.
00:39:25.580 Yeah, look, the left wants open borders.
00:39:28.700 We saw under Joe Biden 12 million people invade this country,
00:39:32.560 and that included criminals, it included murderers and rapists and terrorists and child molesters.
00:39:38.400 And that's what these advocates want. 0.89
00:39:41.220 And by the way, you look at from Haiti.
00:39:43.540 Haiti right now is rocked with massive violence.
00:39:46.500 It is all but chaos in Haiti as the gangs have taken over, and those are the people that the left is trying to bring in.
00:39:56.840 And let me be clear, the immigration law that was being decided on here says explicitly no judicial review of any determination, 0.90
00:40:06.240 and yet that's what the court followed, and yet the dissenters don't care what the statute says.
00:40:11.120 They just want open borders.
00:40:13.000 It really is.
00:40:13.700 Don't forget, we do this show Monday, Wednesday, Friday.
00:40:16.100 Hit that subscribe or auto-download button wherever you get your podcasts.
00:40:19.680 And the Senator and I will see you back here on radio stations next week.
00:40:23.080 Have a great week.
00:40:24.200 On Newt World Podcast, we're celebrating America's 250th birthday.
00:40:28.280 And I ask my guests how they're spending their 4th of July.
00:40:32.140 Brett Baer.
00:40:33.100 I will be working.
00:40:34.640 I'll be in Washington because it's a big, big day.
00:40:37.920 Jared Isaacman.
00:40:38.880 I plan to be flying an F-5 fighter jet painted in Freedom 250 colors
00:40:43.100 along with four other fighter jets flying over the nation's capital.
00:40:46.800 Listen to Newt's World on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts,
00:40:50.960 or wherever you get your podcasts.
00:40:54.160 Why should you listen to Armstrong and Getty on demand?
00:40:57.640 We're not boring.
00:40:58.620 A lot of news is boring.
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00:41:04.720 Hey, I'm Jack Armstrong.
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00:41:06.440 We're Armstrong and Getty.
00:41:07.540 We try to bring you the truth.
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00:41:10.960 How about something about a comedic tone?
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00:41:17.100 Yes.
00:41:18.100 Listen to Armstrong and Getty on demand on the iHeartRadio app,
00:41:21.200 Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
00:41:24.220 As America marks its 250th anniversary,
00:41:27.060 we're looking back at two and a half centuries of rebellion and liberty
00:41:30.560 through the eyes of the heroes who defended it.
00:41:32.820 The whole thing about this country is freedom.
00:41:36.360 If we're not careful, we could lose that.
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