Verdict with Ted Cruz - Give the Bird to Big Bird

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00:03:09.120 Welcome back to VERDICT with Ted Cruz.

00:03:11.480 I am Michael Knowles.

00:03:13.100 Senator, I saw you trending on Twitter today.

00:03:16.920 I say, what has Senator Cruz done now?

00:03:19.700 And I kid you not, the description says,

00:03:21.600 Senator Cruz gets into a fight with Big Bird.

00:03:25.760 What is happening?

00:03:26.940 Well, I guess it's a sign that I had too much time on my hands yesterday afternoon.

00:03:32.300 But, you know, it's important to take on the Muppets that are destroying America.

00:03:39.480 And there are furry puppets being controlled, being controlled by dark, ominous forces

00:03:46.740 that are really a danger to our liberty.

00:03:49.920 Well, you know, we might sound like we're joking about this,

00:03:53.100 but there actually are furry puppets being controlled by dark, ominous forces.

00:03:57.980 And we're not talking about Dr. Fauci.

00:04:00.880 We're not, that's a totally, we would never say that about the good doctor,

00:04:06.020 applicable though it may be.

00:04:08.740 The Muppets are actually being used as a mouthpiece right now to persuade children to get the vaccine.

00:04:16.740 We're talking about kids between the ages of 5 and 11 to go get the COVID vaccine.

00:04:21.600 Well, look, that's exactly right.

00:04:23.400 And when it comes to vaccine, it ought to be your choice.

00:04:26.000 You ought to be the one making that decision.

00:04:28.160 And what we're seeing from Joe Biden, what we're seeing from a lot of big businesses,

00:04:33.980 what we're seeing from sports leagues is they want to use government force to force you to comply.

00:04:40.820 And when it comes to kids, I think that's really pernicious.

00:04:43.300 So, you know, a couple of days ago, Big Bird tweeted out, I just got the COVID vaccine and boy, does my wing hurt.

00:04:52.740 And, you know, it's a tweet sent out, directed at kids.

00:04:56.920 And listen, on one level, it's Big Bird.

00:05:01.240 But, you know, and so I responded on my phone and I just said, government propaganda directed at your five-year-old.

00:05:08.820 And I got to say, Michael, it's an amazing thing. 0.99

00:05:12.620 Liberals, I think, are genuinely, like, mentally ill. 0.99

00:05:16.460 An open border, two million people crossing illegally, they don't care. 0.99

00:05:20.600 A disastrous retreat from Afghanistan, surrender, giving $80 billion in military equipment to the Taliban, they don't care. 0.90

00:05:29.840 Skyrocketing inflation, they don't care.

00:05:32.200 All the disasters that are happening, none of them matter. 0.99

00:05:34.840 But you mess with Big Bird, holy crap, they lost it. 0.98

00:05:39.680 I mean, we're seeing lefties. 0.99

00:05:41.940 I just initially intended a smart-ass tweet. 0.99

00:05:45.480 I was driving along and saw it and just thought it was kind of dumb. 0.94

00:05:49.040 And then the reaction of the left, this has been on ABC News, on NBC News, on CBS, the Washington Post. 0.92

00:05:56.900 Like, the entire corrupt corporate media is surrounding Big Bird.

00:06:02.040 They're protecting the big fella.

00:06:04.400 And you also apparently had, you know, tweets coming out from Elmo.

00:06:10.200 You had tweets coming out from Oscar the Grouch.

00:06:12.520 Now, pause for a second.

00:06:14.200 Would you really take vaccination advice from somebody who lives in a trash can?

00:06:18.740 I mean, that's just not a safe place to get needles.

00:06:20.940 And you've got to wonder about that.

00:06:22.560 It does not seem conducive to public health.

00:06:24.360 It most assuredly is not.

00:06:27.040 And the entire thing is driven by, I don't get the left that wants to control you and force you to take the vaccine.

00:06:38.100 If you want to take the vaccine, make a decision and take it.

00:06:42.380 If you don't want to take it, don't take it.

00:06:44.220 And with your kids, if you decide you want your kids to get the vaccine, that's your right.

00:06:48.640 You ought to be able to make that decision.

00:06:50.300 But you also ought to be able to make the decision with your five-year-old that, gosh, maybe this isn't the right decision for a five-year-old.

00:06:58.280 That the cost-benefit analysis, the risk for a child of getting seriously ill from COVID is very, very low.

00:07:06.720 The risks of unknown side effects from a new and experimental vaccine.

00:07:11.500 We don't know what those are.

00:07:12.740 I think parents can make that determination, and it is bizarre to see the democratic complex saying you don't have a right to make your choices.

00:07:24.500 You don't have a right to make choices for your kids.

00:07:27.140 Well, it's that last part that I think is what's so pernicious about this Muppet assault, you know, propaganda assault for the COVID vaccine.

00:07:36.660 Because 99 percent plus of the viewers of Sesame Street are children.

00:07:41.620 Children, and maybe you've got a parent watching, too, or walking into the room or something.

00:07:45.860 But this was not a message going out saying, hey, parents, you really should vaccinate your kids, and here are the reasons why.

00:07:53.300 This was going over the heads of parents, going directly to the kids.

00:07:57.000 That seems really ugly.

00:07:59.040 It seems disordered.

00:08:00.720 And I know that beyond the cartoons and the puppets, you're actually bringing this fight to Capitol Hill to try to put some teeth in it to stop these mandates for five- and six-year-olds to get the Fauci ouchie.

00:08:13.600 No, that's exactly right.

00:08:14.960 So I filed legislation.

00:08:16.280 I filed legislation banning vaccine mandates at work.

00:08:20.220 I filed legislation banning vaccine passports. 0.75

00:08:22.840 I filed legislation just this past week.

00:08:25.940 I filed legislation focused on kids to prevent any level of government, federal government, state government, local government, school boards, from requiring kids to get the COVID vaccine.

00:08:37.580 It should not be a requirement.

00:08:38.960 Look, we're seeing places like California where they're forcing school kids, whether you want it or not, you've got to give this vaccine to your kids. 0.76

00:08:46.900 I don't think that's right.

00:08:48.220 I think we ought to empower parents, and I'll tell you, the arrogance of the left, look, when it comes to parents, we saw that play out in Virginia, where the same people who were saying, we, the government, are going to force your kids to obey whatever you think.

00:09:05.740 You know, it's what Terry McAuliffe said.

00:09:07.340 Parents have no business telling schools what to teach their kids.

00:09:10.760 These same people think parents have no business making health care decisions for their kids.

00:09:15.660 I got to say that's nuts.

00:09:17.500 I believe in parents and trust parents.

00:09:21.780 You know, I will say one of the people who got mad at me about this was Seth McFarlane, you know, the comedian who's a family guy, and he's funny as all get out, and he sent a tweet saying that Big Bird is smarter than Cruz, and so is Elmo, and the Cookie Monster, and Oscar the Grouch, and Animal, and he listed a whole bunch of others.

00:09:43.100 And, you know, I had to respond, and I said, look, last I checked, every one of those you listed are puppets, usually with someone's hand stuck up their rear end.

00:09:53.520 And so, and I said, listen, you're a really funny guy, and I'm sad to see you shilling for authoritarian tyrants who want to force kids to obey and take away health care choices from parents.

00:10:09.160 I think that's not right.

00:10:11.200 Of course.

00:10:11.880 And, you know, comedians used to speak truth to power.

00:10:14.020 Now they just push the regular narrative.

00:10:16.720 But, you know, the Virginia of it all is what's interesting to me because the Democrats just got a shellacking.

00:10:23.180 You would imagine they got the message that this issue of education, parents having a right in how their kids are raised, that's really going to resonate even in a blue state like Virginia.

00:10:33.080 So do you think there's any chance that you could get some Democrats in the Senate or in the House to come along, come over and say, you know, no mandates for kids?

00:10:42.460 Or is the party line so strictly enforced that doesn't matter what happens in Virginia, they can't back down from it?

00:10:49.320 Look, I think the party line is so strict they're terrified.

00:10:52.240 You know, we had a vote on vaccine mandates on the Senate floor where we voted to stop government funding for vaccine mandates for your job, that you shouldn't be fired if you decline to get a vaccine.

00:11:03.380 And every Democrat voted no.

00:11:04.860 I mean, it was a complete party line vote.

00:11:07.640 It's where their party is.

00:11:09.180 They believe in government power and they don't think you have individual rights.

00:11:13.660 They don't think you have individual liberty.

00:11:15.740 And I got to say, Michael, it's striking as I travel the country.

00:11:19.200 I'm hearing from people in all sorts of walks of life.

00:11:23.140 I'm hearing from doctors and nurses because they're firing thousands upon thousands of doctors and nurses because they're declining to get the COVID vaccine for various reasons.

00:11:33.440 I'm hearing from airline pilots and air traffic control controllers.

00:11:39.540 You know, we're seeing every week.

00:11:41.040 It seems there's a new story about thousands of flights being canceled.

00:11:45.320 Southwest Airlines, American Airlines, United, one after the other, cancellation after cancellation.

00:11:50.880 And the corporate media is desperate to say it has nothing, nothing, nothing.

00:11:56.260 I mean, they freak out.

00:11:57.000 Absolutely nothing to do with the vaccine mandates.

00:12:00.140 I'll tell you, I'm talking with the pilots unions.

00:12:03.140 I'm I'm I was the chairman.

00:12:04.840 I'm now the ranking member on the aviation subcommittee, the Senate Commerce Committee.

00:12:07.900 So I talk to aviation people a lot because I'm the lead Republican on all aviation issues.

00:12:13.540 I'm talking to the pilots unions.

00:12:15.160 I'm talking to the air traffic controllers unions.

00:12:17.080 I can tell you there are a whole bunch of them who are really upset about these mandates.

00:12:22.720 And what I'm hearing is that we're seeing sick outs and walk outs.

00:12:26.460 Now, the unions don't want to acknowledge that publicly because there there are negative legal repercussions that come from doing that.

00:12:33.720 But I think that's what's happening. And the media is desperate to have nobody acknowledge it.

00:12:39.360 And, you know, I got I got to say this weekend I was up in Chicago and I was speaking at an event that was called Freedom Fest.

00:12:47.440 It's about seven, eight hundred people there and was talking to them.

00:12:50.160 So I flew up there. Now, as I flew up there, this happens almost every time I fly now where people stop me, airline pilots, flight attendants, mechanics on airplanes.

00:12:59.800 They come up to me that they grab me by the shoulder. They say, Ted, thank you.

00:13:04.500 Keep fighting. It has gotten to the point now I almost can't get on an airplane without somebody coming up and saying that because they're facing.

00:13:13.300 I'm hearing every time I fly, someone saying I've been with airlines such and such for 10, 20, 25 years.

00:13:19.340 I'm losing my job. When I arrived in Chicago, I was greeted by Chicago cops.

00:13:25.620 And look, normally there's a police officer to that that is there to escort you.

00:13:30.580 In this case, it was, you know, seven or eight cops who were there.

00:13:34.380 And the Chicago cops, I love the Chicago cops.

00:13:38.040 They gave me two of their patches, Chicago Police Department. 1.00

00:13:41.320 And I've been speaking out loudly for the Chicago cops because the Chicago Police Union is fighting their idiot mayor. 0.99

00:13:50.220 Lori Lightfoot has a vaccine mandate. 0.98

00:13:52.800 According to the Chicago Police Union, a third of the Chicago police have refused to file their vaccination status.

00:14:00.120 And they're facing being fired.

00:14:02.220 Joe Biden was asked in a national town hall, what should Chicago do?

00:14:07.660 Should we should they fire a third of their cops?

00:14:11.200 And Biden said, yeah, fire them, fire cops.

00:14:13.860 I got to tell you, the speech I gave in Chicago, I told that story and I pulled out the patch of the Chicago Police Department.

00:14:21.460 I held it up and said, I am proud to stand with the men and women of the Chicago Police Department.

00:14:28.360 Every person in the room stood to their feet.

00:14:31.460 A long, rousing, standing ovation for those Chicago cops.

00:14:35.400 I told the press who were there, I said, why don't you guys cover this, that every person at the Chicago gathering stands with the Chicago cops.

00:14:42.780 You know what?

00:14:43.260 It didn't make the six o'clock news.

00:14:45.480 It did not.

00:14:46.100 And it's not just the Chicago cops.

00:14:47.840 There is a story out now that more than a third, something closer, I think, to 37 percent of truck drivers in the United States could resign or be fired.

00:14:57.840 But would would end up off the job amid a supply chain crisis as we're approaching the holiday season could could be a massive disruption to the economy.

00:15:06.600 Little Johnny won't get won't get his Christmas presents in time and there will be more serious consequences.

00:15:12.120 But Big Bird has a special present for Little Johnny.

00:15:14.640 That's right.

00:15:16.480 There's there is.

00:15:18.100 I mean, it's industry after industry.

00:15:20.120 You mentioned the airlines.

00:15:21.800 What coincidentally, there was only negative weather that affected Southwest Airlines a few weeks ago.

00:15:26.880 Then there was only negative weather that affected American Airlines just a couple of weeks later.

00:15:31.120 These are obviously sick outs.

00:15:33.140 Sometimes it's not even the airline.

00:15:34.520 It's, as you say, the air traffic controllers.

00:15:36.180 So there was a court decision, I believe, from the Fifth Circuit Court of Appeals that that pushed for a stay on the Biden vaccine mandate, saying we're going to figure out if this is constitutional or not.

00:15:49.680 In the meantime, you you can't force your your employees to take the vaccine.

00:15:54.740 The Biden White House has just come out today and said, never mind.

00:15:58.400 Forget about that.

00:15:59.760 Force your your employees to get the vaccine anyway.

00:16:02.480 It seems utterly lawless and at the very least extremely confusing.

00:16:05.960 So what are the workers supposed to do?

00:16:08.180 Yeah, look, lawless is is the right word for it.

00:16:10.620 If you look at the Biden vaccine mandates, there's there's four levels to it.

00:16:15.720 There's a mandate that applies to federal civilian employees.

00:16:20.440 There's a mandate that applies to fellow federal military, active duty military.

00:16:27.080 There's a mandate that applies to government contractors, anyone that does business with the federal government.

00:16:31.960 And then there's a mandate through OSHA that's supposed to be a health and safety regulation that applies to any employer with 100 or more workers.

00:16:42.360 All of those mandates are being challenged in court.

00:16:46.180 I think all of them are legally dubious.

00:16:48.620 The ones focused on federal employees are the most likely to succeed just because the federal government has a fair amount of leeway there.

00:16:56.240 But what's interesting is the litigation is succeeding against all of those different components.

00:17:01.900 You know, I got to tell you, I'm I'm also hearing from a lot of active duty military, from soldiers, from sailors, from airmen and Marines.

00:17:09.200 I've talked to to to to Navy SEALs.

00:17:13.140 You know, I was in the the Detroit airport and and a guy pulled me aside, said, said, I am a 10 year Navy SEAL.

00:17:21.360 I've given over 10 years of my life to defending this nation.

00:17:25.100 They are forcing me to get this vaccine.

00:17:27.020 He said, I'm going to quit.

00:17:27.660 And he said a bunch of the other SEALs who have put in years and years and years.

00:17:33.340 He said some of them who are at 14, 15, 16 years and, you know, you get your retirement in the military at 20 years.

00:17:39.380 He said those guys are ready to quit.

00:17:41.220 And so that dynamic is massive.

00:17:44.380 Now, there's been different litigation.

00:17:45.880 So, for example, the United employees have sued trying to stop the vaccine mandate for the airlines where they're getting hit is the government contractor aspect of it.

00:17:56.240 So so, you know, Southwest Airlines, the United States government is their single biggest customer.

00:18:03.120 All of the other airlines are customers.

00:18:06.680 The government is a customer to them.

00:18:08.420 And so they're really they're between a rock and a hard place because the federal government is threatening to withhold millions of dollars if they don't comply.

00:18:17.300 The litigation, the last I checked, the United litigation, there was a stay in place so that the employees had won the initial round.

00:18:25.600 The Fifth Circuit case you're talking about is a lawsuit that was brought against the OSHA regulation targeting employees, employers that have 100 or more employees.

00:18:35.720 And the Fifth Circuit, the Federal Court of Appeals, concluded that they had stated a strong initial case that there was a likelihood of success on the merits and a strong case of statutory and or constitutional violations.

00:18:48.920 The Biden administration is litigating this.

00:18:51.140 I've said from the beginning, the OSHA rule is going to be struck down.

00:18:55.480 It's going to be struck down as contrary to law.

00:18:58.180 I believe that is by far the most likely litigation outcome.

00:19:02.060 I also think, Michael, Joe Biden's lawyers do, too, that they've told the Biden White House we're going to lose in court.

00:19:09.400 But they've also said, look, litigation takes months, sometimes years.

00:19:14.820 It's slow.

00:19:16.000 And in the meantime, most people will comply.

00:19:19.500 And so, you know, if you watch at the White House press conference, when asked, so the Biden administration lost in court.

00:19:27.540 The Federal Court of Appeals stayed the order.

00:19:30.160 In other words, issued an injunction saying this order has no effect.

00:19:34.600 And the Biden deputy press secretary said, well, people should comply nonetheless.

00:19:41.180 Just shut up and obey.

00:19:43.880 Never mind the law. 0.98

00:19:44.940 That's that's really disturbing.

00:19:46.940 You know, I had the same gut reaction when President Biden made the announcement.

00:19:51.780 I said, I think that they're on shaky legal ground here, but they're just going to hope that everyone takes the jab and then it won't be a big deal.

00:19:58.780 Well, today, when when the White House came out and said, well, while this is working its way through the courts, comply anyway, I thought there's the proof.

00:20:06.280 There's the proof that, you know, you're not going to win in court.

00:20:08.620 So you're going to try to get your desired outcome before that all happens. 0.72

00:20:12.000 There's a ton of hypocrisy here, by the way.

00:20:14.300 And we've seen this from the beginning on the left and Democratic politicians not following their own mandates and their own health requirements.

00:20:22.680 And before we get to the mailbag, I can't I can't let us move on without bringing this up.

00:20:27.640 There was a ton of hypocrisy from left wing politicians who have just been at their climate change a palooza all week, the United Nations Climate Summit.

00:20:36.540 And it seems to me a fair number of them flew private jets on the way to save the world and stop the emissions. 0.70

00:20:45.380 Well, look, hypocrisy is something Democrats do a lot.

00:20:48.500 I got to say, by the way, let me start off by saying, what did the Scots do to piss us off so much that we caused all these people to descend upon them like locusts? 0.99

00:20:57.360 I always liked the Scots.

00:20:58.860 By the way, if you haven't watched it.

00:21:02.240 Michael, have you seen Robin Williams's monologue on golf?

00:21:06.440 I don't think I have.

00:21:07.400 Oh, oh, your life is incomplete. 0.53

00:21:10.320 You are culturally stunted. 0.99

00:21:12.600 So, look, I adored Robin Williams.

00:21:14.920 I think he's one of the funniest human beings to have ever lived.

00:21:17.620 I shed a tear when he passed.

00:21:20.420 He was such an incredibly gifted, funny as hell, talented actor.

00:21:25.560 But his stand-up on golf.

00:21:28.420 Now, language warning.

00:21:30.060 There is a profanity about every third word.

00:21:32.780 Yeah, it's like a comma.

00:21:34.220 Like, my ribs hurt and I can't breathe when I watch it.

00:21:38.860 When he talks about the Scotsman inventing golf and just what a screwed-up game golf is.

00:21:46.620 So, I will say, I love the Scots.

00:21:52.480 I wish we hadn't caused all these folks to descend upon them. 0.97

00:21:55.840 The hypocrisy of Democrats, it's almost their defining characteristic. 0.97

00:22:00.020 Look, on masks, they all know masks are a crock. 0.97

00:22:06.760 So, Nancy Pelosi, when she does a fundraiser in California, all the rich Democrats sit at the table, the big donors.

00:22:14.900 They don't wear masks.

00:22:16.180 And they make their serving staff wear masks.

00:22:19.060 Barack Obama, when he does his birthday party in Martha's Vineyard.

00:22:23.540 He turns 60.

00:22:24.480 He's dancing on the disco floor along with him dancing or other rich Democrats.

00:22:29.220 None of them have a mask.

00:22:30.980 Gavin Newsom at the French Laundry.

00:22:32.840 The mayor of San Francisco.

00:22:34.140 I mean, the examples go on and on and on.

00:22:35.600 And they put rules they don't follow.

00:22:37.500 Just this weekend, Chuck Schumer was down in Puerto Rico.

00:22:41.320 Puerto Rico has a mask mandate indoors.

00:22:43.560 He's partying indoors, dancing, by the way.

00:22:46.120 No one should have to gaze at Chuck Schumer dancing.

00:22:50.100 It's a violation of the Geneva Conventions, I think.

00:22:52.600 I will tell you a true story.

00:22:54.220 One of my colleagues, a Republican senator who's female, described being in the Senate gym and accidentally the door opened and seeing Schumer in his tighty-whities.

00:23:06.440 And she just said she wanted to wash her eyes with bleach. 0.93

00:23:10.560 It was deeply traumatic.

00:23:13.840 But look, Schumer, dancing away, no mask.

00:23:16.760 By the way, you know who was down there, too?

00:23:18.400 Randy Weingarten, the head of one of the big teachers unions, partying away, no mask.

00:23:25.240 Mind you, this is the person, one of the people saying all kids have to wear masks at all times.

00:23:31.260 And she explained, well, I didn't wear a mask because it was hard for people to hear me.

00:23:35.240 Oh, oh, really?

00:23:36.560 Oh, OK.

00:23:37.640 That's unique to you, then.

00:23:38.860 No one else has ever had the problem of it being hard for people to hear them. 0.68

00:23:43.060 But the hypocrisy is massive. 0.89

00:23:44.700 And on climate, look, the person who I think embodies hypocrisy so much is John Kerry. 0.98

00:23:53.980 John Kerry is dripping with patrician condescension. 0.94

00:23:59.400 Thurston Howell III.

00:24:01.100 So, OK.

00:24:02.200 How old are you, Michael?

00:24:03.440 I'm 31 years young.

00:24:04.760 A lady never tells, but I'm 31 years young.

00:24:07.160 Well, OK.

00:24:08.560 But you know who Thurston Howell is.

00:24:10.380 So, I was on Fox News, and I referenced Thurston Howell.

00:24:15.960 And I went back to my office, and my staff, they're all 20-somethings and 30-somethings.

00:24:23.060 Nobody on my staff had any clue who Thurston Howell was.

00:24:27.220 And I felt 1,000 years old.

00:24:30.080 They didn't watch enough Nick at Night when they were kids.

00:24:32.580 You know, those reruns were very important.

00:24:34.380 And apparently, Thurston Howell III was based on one of the founders of the conservative movement,

00:24:39.600 William F. Buckley Jr.

00:24:40.700 Oh, now that I didn't know.

00:24:42.200 OK, that's an interesting bit of, OK, there's the Yale mafia kicking in.

00:24:46.320 There's the connection.

00:24:47.860 So, it was interesting.

00:24:49.000 I told that story at the Republican senator's lunch.

00:24:53.140 And I stood up and said, you know, I talked about John Kerry, how he's like Thurston Howell.

00:24:58.720 And then I said, warning to you guys that I asked my staff and no one knew who he was. 0.98

00:25:03.600 And I said, no, you guys are all such old farts. 0.93

00:25:05.360 You all know who he is. 0.97

00:25:06.640 And Mitt Romney had some advice.

00:25:10.040 He said, use Mr. Burns instead, that Mr. Burns is a younger, hipper reference.

00:25:14.920 And I looked to Mitt for younger, hipper references.

00:25:16.660 So, that, but this is a digression on a digression.

00:25:23.500 John Kerry has a private jet.

00:25:26.180 He flies his private jet all over the place.

00:25:29.720 And Kerry's comment, he said, you know, really, for someone like me,

00:25:36.780 it's the only way to travel that makes sense. 0.99

00:25:40.940 A rich, condescending, arrogant, hypocrite, mind you, who's trying to impose taxes and fees and regulations on you 0.98

00:25:51.180 because of carbon emissions to drive up the cost of living and to take away, he wants, I mean, 0.99

00:25:56.180 to take away practically all the joys of your life.

00:26:00.180 The guy's got a bigger carbon footprint than most small towns.

00:26:03.460 So, this past week, I was doing a press conference with a bunch of Republican senators talking about the environment,

00:26:10.040 talking about if you want to clean up the environment, you want low-cost energy, you want more natural gas,

00:26:15.980 all of the steps that actually lower emissions.

00:26:19.720 And I talked about Kerry's hypocrisy on the jet, and I said, you know, last I checked,

00:26:25.960 none of us up here on this stage have a private jet.

00:26:28.780 Now, John Kennedy was one of the senators there, and Kennedy is ridiculously funny.

00:26:35.720 And Kerry deadpans goes, Portman does.

00:26:39.380 So, Rob Portman was behind me.

00:26:41.200 And it was funny.

00:26:42.700 And here's the funnier thing.

00:26:45.600 The media all believed Kennedy.

00:26:48.660 Fact-checked me.

00:26:49.540 ABC News wrote stories about how Cruz was fact-checked because Rob Portman has a private jet.

00:26:57.120 Okay, shocker, Rob Portman does not have a private jet.

00:27:01.020 Kennedy was being funny as hell and a smart aleck.

00:27:04.640 So, actually, Portman and I spent the next day, like, fighting back these fact-checks

00:27:10.040 because the liberals were so happy.

00:27:13.420 Ah, ha, ha, this Republican has a private jet.

00:27:17.540 You know what?

00:27:19.260 Portman doesn't.

00:27:20.100 But even if Portman did, he's not running around trying to impose rules on you that he's not obeying.

00:27:26.120 That's what John Kerry is doing.

00:27:28.340 I feel very confident that Barack Obama, when he went to Scotland for his speech, did not fly commercial. 0.99

00:27:35.540 And these guys are hypocrites. 0.99

00:27:38.460 Yes. 0.99

00:27:38.920 You know, Obama, I don't think, was, you know, in Section B of Southwest or anything.

00:27:44.020 No, he flies private, I think, all of the time and has for a very long time.

00:27:49.280 And so, beyond the hypocrisy, which we all see, I mean, at this point, it's almost, we don't even want to talk about it because it's so flagrant.

00:27:58.400 You know, if the Democrats didn't have double standards, they'd have no standards at all.

00:28:01.940 But the substance of what was said at this conference was a little disconcerting, too, especially in Barack Obama's speech.

00:28:10.000 It made me long for a Scandinavian teenager.

00:28:14.000 And by the way, that's a sentence that can really be cut out of context and used against me.

00:28:18.760 So I'm going to insist that there be broader, that there's no clipping of that sentence.

00:28:24.740 You think they took the Kennedy-Portland private jet thing out of context?

00:28:28.700 That, you are, Senator, you're going down with that one.

00:28:31.380 But what Barack Obama said was that he apologized to the world.

00:28:36.680 It's too bad that America has been behind on climate for so long because of big, bad Donald Trump.

00:28:42.580 Mind you, by the way, that in the first year of the Trump administration, the United States did better than the actual signatories to the Paris Climate Accord on reducing carbon emissions and protecting the environment.

00:28:53.200 Never mind completely thrown out the window because big, bad Trump got us out of the Paris climate deal.

00:28:57.860 But what Barack Obama said was that it was the fault of rising nationalism that we weren't taking on this problem of climate change and we need to come together.

00:29:07.100 If there's one thing that should transcend our politics, it ought to be climate change.

00:29:13.860 And it was so spooky to me because what he was saying is that all the ordinary political fights and workings of democracy and our constitutional order and the way we run our government,

00:29:22.640 basically all of that's got to be suspended and superseded by the need to fight off the sun monster.

00:29:29.320 And it occurs to me that's basically been their strategy from the beginning.

00:29:32.520 Well, look, their strategy is always, always, always give them power.

00:29:39.660 It's the only thing they care about.

00:29:41.540 The COVID vaccine mandate, the shutdown, school shutdown, businesses shut down, churches shut down, synagogue shutdown.

00:29:49.240 It's all about power.

00:29:50.960 They want control over your life.

00:29:53.340 And when it comes to climate, Joe Biden's policies are terrible for the environment.

00:30:00.260 Last year, the number one nation leading the world in reducing carbon emissions and pollutions was the United States of America because of the widespread substitution of natural gas for coal and energy production.

00:30:16.160 Joe Biden and the lunatics in his administration are shutting down U.S. production.

00:30:23.960 And meanwhile, they're begging OPEC to produce more oil. 0.91

00:30:27.080 OPEC produces it dirtier and pollutes more.

00:30:29.300 They're literally shifting from low pollution energy to high pollution energy.

00:30:35.000 They don't believe what they're saying. 1.00

00:30:36.620 They're hypocrites. 1.00

00:30:37.720 But their answer to everything is they say, we're all going to die. 1.00

00:30:42.840 There's a catastrophe.

00:30:44.000 It's coming tomorrow.

00:30:45.360 They've been saying for 30 years, in 12 years, the world's going to end.

00:30:49.200 And no one notices when 12 years passes.

00:30:52.480 They just repeat it again and again and again.

00:30:55.080 And you know what?

00:30:55.680 When you get 12 years, 12 more years, 12 more.

00:30:58.120 And there's a solution.

00:31:00.420 It's a solution.

00:31:01.580 Fidel Castro looks at these people up from hell and says, they're good.

00:31:09.560 I mean, what an excuse. 0.86

00:31:11.580 Make me dictator for life or else all of humanity will perish.

00:31:17.000 That's the left's pitch right now.

00:31:19.560 You want to have a serious conversation about protecting the environment, about keeping air

00:31:23.960 clean, water clean, being good stewards of our earth.

00:31:27.040 Absolutely, yes.

00:31:28.560 These guys are not having that conversation.

00:31:30.660 This is an excuse for power.

00:31:33.440 Right.

00:31:33.680 The past is always evil.

00:31:35.580 The future is always going to be wonderful.

00:31:37.220 And the present is always a crisis that justifies them taking more and more power before any of

00:31:43.300 us know what is going on.

00:31:44.580 So before we die, I think it would be important to bring back our good old friend, Liz Wheeler,

00:31:50.320 to come on and bring some of the questions that all of the Verdict listeners have submitted.

00:31:56.480 So Liz, give us some questions.

00:31:59.140 We have a lot of great questions over at Verdict Plus tonight.

00:32:02.240 By the way, anybody who wants to submit a question for upcoming episodes, please join me over at

00:32:07.920 VerdictWithTedCruise.com slash plus.

00:32:10.320 We will be exclusively taking questions from our supporters over there.

00:32:13.720 That is VerdictWithTedCruise.com slash plus.

00:32:16.240 The questions tonight are very interesting, very intellectual.

00:32:19.180 Michael, this one's for you.

00:32:20.360 This is from RealTruthCactus, who says,

00:32:22.460 Well, don't forget, Donald Trump was pretty successful by running on the culture war too.

00:32:41.700 And some people really like Trump and some people really hate Trump.

00:32:45.860 And I think that McAuliffe's strategy in Virginia was recognizing that Virginia has a lot of Democrats,

00:32:53.020 a whole lot of Democrats, and a lot of more moderate Republican voters.

00:32:57.020 McAuliffe wanted to make this all about Trump, and then he thought that he would handily defeat

00:33:02.600 Youngkin.

00:33:03.400 Youngkin realized, I think, one, that he is not a personality-driven candidate, right?

00:33:09.900 He is not quite the reality TV star of Donald Trump.

00:33:13.660 He is a standard conservative Republican of the sort that can win in Virginia.

00:33:20.100 And so he picked his issue very well.

00:33:22.920 He wasn't just running on tax cuts.

00:33:24.800 He wasn't just running on kind of ordinary chamber of commerce type issues.

00:33:28.540 He ran on a big culture war issue, which is education and whether parents have the right 0.64

00:33:33.820 to raise their kids and keep radical racial and sexual ideologies out of the classroom. 0.99

00:33:40.200 So I think that worked very well in Virginia.

00:33:42.380 I think the lesson more broadly for the GOP is we do need to lean into these cultural issues.

00:33:47.860 But you've got to be smart about it.

00:33:50.040 You know, I think if Glenn Youngkin had run on the campaign of overturning Obergefell and

00:33:58.440 getting rid of gay marriage, I don't think that would have been a culture war issue, but 0.95

00:34:01.980 I don't think he would have won in Virginia.

00:34:03.700 If Glenn Youngkin had run on a hardline immigration campaign, that would be a culture war issue,

00:34:11.400 but I don't think it would have won in Virginia.

00:34:13.420 So there is a little bit of savvy here that's required.

00:34:16.320 You need to be wise as a serpent and innocent as a dove.

00:34:21.100 And so it depends on what district you're in.

00:34:25.300 I mean, there are certain districts, I think, in this country where if you, certain states

00:34:28.680 even, but certainly certain districts, where if you ran on your great friendship with Donald

00:34:32.440 Trump, that would probably serve you very well.

00:34:34.200 But it wouldn't serve you very well in northern Virginia.

00:34:36.540 And so there is just an element of running a good campaign that you need to have here.

00:34:41.980 And if we're going to retake the country, I mean, it's a very conservative principle.

00:34:45.020 There's just not going to be a one-size-fits-all strategy.

00:34:47.520 You're going to have to tailor your message to the different constituencies and to the different

00:34:52.160 states and districts that you will be representing and not pretend that some solution that's going

00:34:58.680 to work for a Republican in California is going to be the same sort of thing that a Republican

00:35:02.680 in the middle of Texas is going to want.

00:35:05.160 Senator Cruz, you have the cactus sitting behind you.

00:35:07.680 So same question to you.

00:35:08.920 You, by the way, also started a culture war this week when you hit Big Bird for engaging

00:35:13.500 in propaganda about the COVID vaccine.

00:35:16.140 Well, listen, let me say a couple of things on that.

00:35:18.640 Number one, what, you know, Michael's answer a minute ago, I think there are a lot of Republicans

00:35:26.520 that behave as if they're wise as doves and innocent as a serpent.

00:35:32.920 They get it backwards.

00:35:36.500 You know, when it comes to Donald Trump, right now the Democratic playbook is scream Trump,

00:35:42.180 Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump.

00:35:43.600 So when you had the California recall, they made Larry Elder into Donald Trump.

00:35:48.660 Terry McCullough's strategy in Virginia was to say Glenn Youngkin is Donald Trump.

00:35:52.680 Well, look, he's not.

00:35:53.780 They're very different people.

00:35:55.460 I think that playbook is a one-dimensional playbook, and it's not very tethered to reality.

00:36:03.140 The flip side, though, I don't think Republicans should be running away from Trump.

00:36:06.140 I think we accomplished an enormous amount when Trump was president, and he's going to continue

00:36:10.240 to have a significant platform and a significant voice, and so we can acknowledge all the good

00:36:17.040 we did working together without having every election. 0.99

00:36:21.340 If you're debating, is Glenn Youngkin Donald Trump, that's really dumb. 0.95

00:36:25.980 Secondly, on culture war, it's worth remembering, listen, we're not waging a culture war. 0.97

00:36:33.400 It is the left that is waging a culture war.

00:36:37.200 They are attacking every institution of our culture.

00:36:40.980 They're tearing them down.

00:36:42.580 They're tearing our communities down.

00:36:44.140 They're tearing our families down.

00:36:45.500 They're tearing our children down.

00:36:46.800 They're tearing our churches down.

00:36:48.660 They are engaged in cultural jihad, and all we're doing is defending the culture. 0.87

00:36:59.740 So Terry McAuliffe stood up and said, we should not teach critical race theory to our kids.

00:37:06.460 We shouldn't be telling them that America is inherently racist and that all white people

00:37:11.820 are racist, and America was built on racial oppression.

00:37:16.960 That's not waging a culture war.

00:37:19.280 That's defending our culture.

00:37:20.900 That's saying American culture has value.

00:37:25.060 You know, when Terry McAuliffe says parents have no business saying what's taught in our

00:37:30.860 schools, he's waging a culture war.

00:37:33.540 Now, Republicans have a choice.

00:37:36.520 We can roll over and surrender our culture, and by the way, if we surrender our culture, 0.87

00:37:41.720 we surrender our country, or we can actually defend the Declaration of Independence.

00:37:47.880 We can defend the Constitution.

00:37:49.180 We can defend the Bill of Rights.

00:37:50.540 We can defend the Founding Fathers, not pretending that they were perfect men, not lionizing them.

00:37:56.820 Yes, they had faults.

00:37:57.940 Thomas Jefferson was a slave owner.

00:37:59.940 Slave owning is horrific.

00:38:02.100 He also laid out a vision for America of equality that ultimately resulted in abolishing slavery and

00:38:11.240 transforming the world.

00:38:12.680 And so we can defend our culture with honesty and facts, but, you know, I get irritated at

00:38:21.160 the press when they say we're waging a culture war.

00:38:24.600 We're simply defending America against Marxists who are trying to destroy our culture.

00:38:30.680 Yeah, well said.

00:38:31.160 So this next question is kind of a long question, but I think it's worth asking.

00:38:35.560 It's a little bit edgy, which is something that I really like.

00:38:38.080 I like to hear both of you answer these questions.

00:38:40.400 This comes, of course, on Verdict Plus.

00:38:42.380 It is from T. Sals, who asks, Republicans, including Senator Cruz, seem to be carrying on

00:38:49.460 as if the 2020 election was like all other elections.

00:38:52.860 They're focusing on 2022 and expect to win back seats that they lost.

00:38:57.300 How do we know that all of the mailed out ballots, not the absentee ballots, connect with a real

00:39:03.120 live legal voter?

00:39:04.720 I want to be convinced that Biden and the Democrats won in the close elections, but I am not there.

00:39:09.500 The alternative that they beat the system is frightening.

00:39:12.140 And if true, should make election integrity the number one, if not only priority for Republicans

00:39:16.580 right now.

00:39:17.400 The fact that really bothers me is this.

00:39:19.220 If we counted all the votes as we have done it before in person and absentee ballots, Trump

00:39:24.200 wins.

00:39:24.640 If we add in the very abnormal mail-out ballots, then Biden wins.

00:39:29.900 I don't want to be a conspiracy theorist, but it seems like it would not be too hard to

00:39:33.400 manipulate that kind of vote.

00:39:35.160 Senator, you first.

00:39:37.100 So listen, those concerns are real and they're concerns I hear all across Texas and all across

00:39:42.800 the country.

00:39:44.580 When it comes to voter fraud, my view is that the two extremes, neither one of them is right.

00:39:49.980 There are right now those in the corporate media and Democrats who say there is no voter

00:39:56.140 fraud.

00:39:56.460 It doesn't exist.

00:39:57.300 It's the big lie. 1.00

00:39:58.860 Well, that's a load of crap. 0.99

00:40:00.400 That's simply not the case. 0.98

00:40:02.240 On the other hand, it's not the case that there is such widespread voter fraud that every

00:40:07.960 election is rigged and we can never have a real election.

00:40:11.200 That's not true either.

00:40:12.020 The reality is democracy is messy.

00:40:15.300 Voter fraud has been part of elections.

00:40:19.040 As long as people have been voting, there have been people stealing votes.

00:40:23.040 Should we fight against it?

00:40:24.460 Absolutely, yes.

00:40:25.580 I've spent 30 years fighting against voter fraud and we need to fight for strong election

00:40:32.280 integrity legislation.

00:40:33.960 Now, what do we do in 22 and 24?

00:40:38.740 There's a shift and it's a shift that has happened in the last couple of years.

00:40:42.580 It used to be a few years back that you would get some modicum of bipartisan agreement that

00:40:49.020 we want safe and secure elections and we should have reasonable ballot integrity provisions.

00:40:54.780 That used to be possible that you could work together, Republicans and Democrats.

00:40:59.000 That has changed and it's changed because Democrats have decided, I believe, that voter fraud benefits

00:41:07.320 them, that it's good for them politically.

00:41:09.400 And so right now today, in the United States Congress, you get zero, not a single Democrat

00:41:14.400 willing to work in any way on any positive element of election integrity.

00:41:19.240 That's true in the Senate.

00:41:20.400 There are zero Senate Democrats and I think it's true in the House.

00:41:23.080 I don't know of any House Democrats.

00:41:25.800 What does that mean for 22 and 24?

00:41:28.020 Well, it means in red states like Texas or Georgia or Florida, you're going to see the

00:41:33.820 legislatures there passing reasonable common sense voter integrity laws.

00:41:37.640 That's good.

00:41:38.320 I support that.

00:41:39.200 I salute them for doing the right thing.

00:41:41.960 In blue states, you're not.

00:41:44.100 In states that have Democratic governors or Democratic legislatures, they're not going to pass good

00:41:49.500 legislation in the next two years or four years.

00:41:51.880 On the federal level, as long as Pelosi and Schumer are running the two houses, the chances that

00:41:56.800 Congress passes good voter integrity law are zero.

00:42:00.940 The Democrats don't want it.

00:42:02.940 So what's our answer?

00:42:05.000 The answer, the good news is election fraud historically only matters when it's close,

00:42:11.400 when it's on the margins.

00:42:13.240 If it's a close election, absolutely election fraud can take and switch the results.

00:42:20.060 The answer is what we saw last week in Virginia, which is in 22 and 24.

00:42:26.200 We've got to win by a big enough margin.

00:42:28.360 They can't steal it.

00:42:29.440 Was there voter fraud in Virginia?

00:42:30.900 Sure.

00:42:31.600 Was there voter fraud in New Jersey?

00:42:33.080 I'm sure there was.

00:42:34.260 But if we win by a big enough margin, you can overcome the fraud.

00:42:37.920 And that may not be fair.

00:42:39.060 But listen, we have two options.

00:42:42.380 We either win by a lot.

00:42:45.180 Or we give up on a country and I'm not willing to give up on the country.

00:42:49.480 But that's that's the reality.

00:42:51.740 If we're sitting there waiting for Democratic legislatures to change the laws to protect

00:42:56.760 ballot integrity, we will wait until hell freezes over. 0.99

00:43:00.080 So the only answer is go in and beat them.

00:43:03.280 And that's exactly what we did in Virginia.

00:43:05.900 All right, Michael, same question to you.

00:43:07.300 So I'm interested to hear your response on this.

00:43:09.640 I think that's a great point.

00:43:10.780 It's also worth pointing out when people talk about should we go back and just constantly

00:43:15.340 focus on 2020?

00:43:16.540 I mean, there has been a lot of inquiry into 2020 and there has been the discovery of

00:43:20.740 shenanigans and fraud and and election practices that appear to be in violation of the state

00:43:26.760 constitution, at least up in Pennsylvania.

00:43:28.620 But then you look back and you think 1948, there's a young fella by the name of Lyndon Johnson

00:43:35.020 from Senator from your your state.

00:43:38.500 And that fellow, Lyndon Johnson, he stole a Senate seat.

00:43:42.620 He stole it and he stuffed a bunch of ballot boxes and he actually joked with top Democrat

00:43:47.800 officials.

00:43:48.420 FDR, this was on an earlier race.

00:43:50.220 They joked about sitting on the ballot box and it went up to the Supreme Court.

00:43:53.820 The Supreme Court wouldn't hear it sound familiar.

00:43:56.560 And Lyndon Johnson goes and he gets a Senate seat.

00:43:59.240 Then he gets picked to be vice president.

00:44:01.100 Then he becomes the president.

00:44:02.520 Then he leaves the presidency, does what he does. 0.65

00:44:05.480 Then he dies.

00:44:06.540 And then in 1990, a writer named Robert Caro laid out the strong case that he had stolen

00:44:11.660 that seat.

00:44:12.420 Well, what a great moral victor.

00:44:13.760 Are we going to are we going to go back and fight the 1948 Senate race?

00:44:17.460 No, you can't.

00:44:18.400 You can't do that.

00:44:19.320 He got away with it.

00:44:20.560 And sometimes these things happen.

00:44:22.180 And so, Senator, to your point, I just I think it's so pragmatic and realistic.

00:44:26.640 You've just got to deal with the realities on the ground and win and just win the next

00:44:33.420 election so that you can make the changes that you want.

00:44:36.380 And it's very encouraging to see in Virginia.

00:44:38.700 Apparently, at least, we can still win elections as conservatives and Republicans.

00:44:43.380 Amen.

00:44:44.220 It's almost a vicious cycle, isn't it?

00:44:46.160 In order to win, you have to have elections which are intact.

00:44:51.440 And in order to enact election integrity reform, you have to have you have to have won the elections

00:44:56.820 to have the power to do that.

00:44:58.500 Like I said before, anybody who wants to ask a question to Senator Cruz or to Michael Knowles

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00:45:17.760 Senator Michael, thank you for having me.

00:45:19.440 Great round of questions this week.

00:45:21.100 So, Liz, one more thing before we go.

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00:46:09.980 So go to yaf.org slash verdict.

00:46:12.920 Wonderful.

00:46:13.460 Thank you so much, Liz.

00:46:14.840 All right, we have covered quite a lot of ground, but I think it's very important when

00:46:21.620 we think about our elections, when we think about the tyrannical government pushing these

00:46:27.040 crazy mandates on us, when we think about our would-be plutocratic leaders in Scotland

00:46:34.660 telling us that we have to upend our democratic norms, we need to tell them no.

00:46:39.020 You've heard chants of let's go, Brandon.

00:46:41.180 And I think it's important to follow the senator's lead and give the bird to Big Bird as well.

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Verdict with Ted Cruz - November 11, 2021

Give the Bird to Big Bird

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