Verdict with Ted Cruz - How Long Can Media Attack Biden, plus 'Do Not Disturb POTUS' & Can Cabinet Invoke 25th Amendment Week In Review

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00:00:05.320 Welcome.

00:00:06.080 It is Verdict with Ted Cruz.

00:00:07.940 Week in Review.

00:00:08.920 Ben Ferguson with you.

00:00:10.100 And my, oh, my, did we have some big stories that we talked about this week that you may have missed.

00:00:15.320 First up, how long can the media go after Joe Biden before they have to get back in line?

00:00:21.900 We'll explain the timeline for this.

00:00:23.960 And right now, they're not liking Joe Biden at all.

00:00:27.060 Plus, we've now been told that after eight o'clock at night, well, there's a team around Joe Biden that can help if anything happens.

00:00:34.220 Is that actually how the presidency is supposed to work?

00:00:36.660 We'll dive into that because apparently he's put his life on do not disturb.

00:00:41.920 And finally, is the cabinet actually looking at the 25th Amendment to get rid of Joe Biden?

00:00:48.480 It's the Week in Review, and it starts right now.

00:00:51.980 I mean, look, I do this a fair amount with people that I interview.

00:00:57.060 Right over the years.

00:00:58.120 And I've had campaigns or offices say, hey, the senator or the congressman or the governor has this piece of legislation.

00:01:06.960 If you'd please ask him a question about that.

00:01:09.700 It's something that's very important and that it's going to be introduced.

00:01:12.660 And I'm fine with that.

00:01:13.920 But if you gave me four questions to ask and said you get them only if you ask these four questions, these four questions only, I would tell them to pound sand no matter who it was, because that's not doing an interview.

00:01:26.120 That's a scripted moment.

00:01:28.940 You might as well just have the president sit there at the White House and say, here are the four questions I'm going to answer today that I chose.

00:01:34.660 Yeah, look, I've done hundreds of interviews, if not maybe thousands of interviews.

00:01:42.080 I've done a crap ton of interviews.

00:01:44.820 To the best of my knowledge, I've certainly never submitted questions.

00:01:48.560 To the best of my knowledge, no one on my team has.

00:01:51.240 Now, what is typical is what you just said.

00:01:53.320 If you're doing an interview, let's say I'm going on Hannity.

00:01:56.540 It's typical that my press team will talk with Hannity's producers and they'll discuss some topics.

00:02:03.420 So if you're going to talk about the Biden debate or if you're going to talk about illegal immigration or sometimes there's some story that just broke of like Israel or the terrorist, you know, being the the eight terrorists, suspected terrorists from Tajikistan just released.

00:02:21.400 If there's a story that just broke, the producer will tell my press team, hey, Sean wants to ask about this.

00:02:27.500 That's typical.

00:02:28.400 So you have some idea what the topic is you're discussing so that you can be prepared.

00:02:35.240 But I'll tell you, my guess is of the interviews I do, at least half of them, they ask me something that is not a topic that they mentioned at all.

00:02:43.000 So, you know, it's helpful to have, OK, if we're going to do Israel, I should probably be up on the latest developments of what's happened on Israel in the last few days.

00:02:52.840 But it is an absolute violation of journalistic ethics and norms to simply read the questions the campaign handed you.

00:03:04.940 And and and the absolute arrogance that the Biden campaign has, that they they fully assume that that that that fake journalists will be more than happy to comply.

00:03:18.140 Senator, I got two more questions for you, and it deals again with the media.

00:03:21.980 One, the media hypocrisy, I think, is at an all time high.

00:03:25.420 But how long until the media gets back in line and it's business as usual, how many more days can they continue to go after Joe Biden if he refuses to drop out?

00:03:36.480 Well, I think the instant Biden is out and they coronate the next person, then the media will absolutely fall in line and it will become a straight on cheerleading.

00:03:45.020 It will be hallelujah, hallelujah.

00:03:46.580 The problems are all solved.

00:03:47.820 Now we must all vote for either Kamala or Michelle Obama and save America and stop stop Orange Man bad.

00:03:55.200 I mean, it would be instantaneous.

00:03:58.660 But, you know, let me make a couple of quick more observations on that point.

00:04:04.060 You know, as you and I were talking about doing interviews and getting questions ahead of time, as I said, I've done a gazillion of them and have not had the questions ahead of time.

00:04:13.440 But, you know, I was actually thinking about it on this podcast.

00:04:18.860 We've interviewed a bunch of folks.

00:04:20.520 Now, I'm not a journalist.

00:04:21.500 I don't pretend to be a journalist.

00:04:23.580 But even when we interview people on this podcast, we've never given people questions ahead of time.

00:04:29.100 And I actually thought back to an interview that on this podcast, actually, before you were my co-host, when it was Michael Knowles and me, where we interviewed Bill Barr.

00:04:40.800 And we interviewed Bill Barr at the Department of Justice.

00:04:44.360 He was the sitting attorney general.

00:04:46.260 And it was interesting.

00:04:47.340 His communication staff was really freaked out.

00:04:50.520 And they were like, OK, well, how's this going to be?

00:04:53.120 And listen, I've known Bill for 20 years and we're friends.

00:04:56.300 And I'm telling him, relax.

00:04:58.080 I'm not going to play games.

00:05:00.180 This is not a gotcha interview.

00:05:02.900 This is not trying to, you know, go stick it to him.

00:05:05.480 And I didn't, but it ended up being it was one of our most listens podcasts we've ever done, in part because Bill was someone who would come across on TV as pretty stiff and tight and, you know, very controlled.

00:05:18.960 And because he and I are friends, he was relaxed and we were cutting up.

00:05:25.120 And Bill is funny as hell.

00:05:26.680 I mean, he has this wickedly sarcastic sense of humor.

00:05:30.620 And it came out.

00:05:31.840 We had a great free range, free ranging interview that, look, when a podcast is good, it sounds like a couple of guys sitting at a cafe having dinner and just shooting the breeze talking about what's going on.

00:05:45.840 But even then, with someone I'd known 20 years, I don't even think I told him the topics we were going to discuss.

00:05:51.380 We just sat down and now I wasn't playing gotcha games, but that's what we did.

00:05:57.720 But let me make a second point about just how astonishingly rapidly the media can do 180 degree reversal.

00:06:08.980 So on this podcast, we've talked a lot about Hunter Biden and the whole Hunter Biden investigations and the trials and for months and months and months and for years and years and years.

00:06:21.400 The White House narrative and the corporate media narrative was Hunter is a poor, troubled son.

00:06:28.280 He struggles with substance abuse.

00:06:30.860 He's a sad soul and just it's all about him.

00:06:35.860 But they've said he has nothing, nothing, nothing to do with the White House.

00:06:38.680 No, no, no, no, no, no.

00:06:39.840 Hunter, when he was making millions of dollars from every corrupt oligarch in every enemy of America across the planet, whether the Chinese communists or the Russians or what have you, that had nothing to do with favors from Papa Joe.

00:06:52.520 No, no, no, no, no.

00:06:53.680 Hunter is not at all connected to Joe Biden or the White House.

00:06:56.600 That's been their relentless talking point for years, correct?

00:07:00.860 Yes.

00:07:01.980 All right.

00:07:02.640 I want to read you this paragraph from Axios on July 7th.

00:07:08.100 Behind the curtain, unbendable Biden versus breaking point dams.

00:07:12.680 Quote, we're now in uncharted historic waters.

00:07:17.420 President Biden, backed by First Lady Jill Biden and his convicted son Hunter,

00:07:23.220 Hunter, who's serving as de facto gatekeeper to his dad, says that nothing besides an act of God will persuade him to quit his reelection campaign.

00:07:34.880 So without missing a beat, the corporate media can now suddenly admit Hunter is, quote, de facto gatekeeper to his dad.

00:07:45.560 This is the same Hunter who about 12 minutes ago, their walking storyline was, no, no, no, Hunter's never met Joe Biden.

00:07:52.480 I'm sorry.

00:07:52.840 They have nothing to do.

00:07:53.760 He doesn't even know where the White House is.

00:07:55.560 No, no, no, no.

00:07:56.080 Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain.

00:07:58.220 This is not about Joe Biden and his corruption.

00:08:00.540 Yeah, this is the media.

00:08:01.900 They'll get back in line soon.

00:08:03.040 Don't worry.

00:08:04.540 Instantaneously.

00:08:05.400 Yeah, I give them a week and a half, two weeks, and then they'll start dialing back the full court press to get Biden out because they're then going to be afraid.

00:08:13.380 Maybe we can't get rid of him by when we want to.

00:08:16.820 So we got to pull back a little bit.

00:08:18.460 And I think going into these conventions coming up, it's going to be very interesting to see how they even deal with him.

00:08:24.120 If Joe Biden's still there at the convention and he's, quote, still the guy.

00:08:27.900 I also think this, I've got to ask a bonus question.

00:08:31.560 Do you think Donald Trump is going to have to, in essence, just put the VP pick on hold until they figure out who they're running against?

00:08:38.340 That is an awfully good question.

00:08:40.800 I mean, we're weeks away from you and I going to the convention.

00:08:44.920 We have no idea who the VP candidate is, and I'm not sure he does either.

00:08:49.460 Look, it is not a crazy question to ask.

00:08:52.940 The Trump campaign has said repeatedly that they'll announce the VP by the convention.

00:08:58.900 And, you know, usually the VP gives a big speech at the convention the day before the president does.

00:09:07.040 It is a tricky question because if you don't know who you're running against, that is certainly a real factor in trying to decide who the VP is.

00:09:14.860 Because it would, I have not looked at the legal questions at how complicated it would be to name a VP after the convention.

00:09:22.360 But it would not be insane for Trump to delay that choice until he has some real confidence who his opponent's going to be.

00:09:31.180 Now, if you want to hear the rest of this conversation, you can go back and listen to the full podcast from earlier this week.

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00:10:08.120 Now on to story number two.

00:10:12.340 The president sending the notes.

00:10:14.660 You have the squad that's backed in.

00:10:17.100 The Congressional Black Caucus is saying, hey, we need to put this all to bed.

00:10:20.900 Joe's our guide.

00:10:21.940 Joe's made it clear, hey, I'm not going anywhere.

00:10:24.480 He did that on Morning Joe.

00:10:25.640 We mentioned that in the last pod, I think.

00:10:27.780 And then you've got this going on with the media.

00:10:32.080 They're still putting the four-court press here saying, not only is the White House lying to you,

00:10:37.580 but we're going to prove it in essence.

00:10:39.640 And that's why they did this long interview.

00:10:42.180 Now, you've got to look at the calendar.

00:10:45.220 Joe Biden is supposed to be on the debate stage with Donald Trump September the 10th on ABC News.

00:10:53.120 ABC News, by the way, has been attacking the president as well.

00:10:56.320 Well, Stephanopoulos said after doing the interview with the president that was supposed to, quote, save him the other day,

00:11:02.800 that he said there's no way he believes the president could serve for another four years.

00:11:07.880 Does he show up at this debate?

00:11:09.940 Does he cancel it?

00:11:11.100 Does he have to show up to have a chance in hell in November if he's still the nominee?

00:11:15.640 Right. So I don't believe there will be a debate between Donald Trump and Joe Biden in September.

00:11:21.720 I don't think it'll happen.

00:11:23.120 Now, look, I don't think Joe Biden will be the nominee in September.

00:11:25.800 I continue to believe there's an 80 percent chance that he's not the nominee.

00:11:29.980 He's digging in.

00:11:30.980 He's holding on with all of his might.

00:11:33.200 But all right.

00:11:34.620 Here's another story that shows the press turning on him.

00:11:36.980 This is from The Wall Street Journal.

00:11:38.220 Quote, German officials, aware of Biden's fatigue at night, sought to accommodate the president by planning a June 2022 event with German Chancellor Olaf Scholz in the early evening.

00:11:52.000 The informal event, a soiree at the Alpine Resort Schloss Elmau during the Group of Seven summit, was arranged as a confidential meeting on Ukraine in a relaxed setting.

00:12:03.660 So, Biden didn't show, surprising the chancellor and his aides, officials said.

00:12:10.200 Instead, Secretary of State Antony Blinken arrived and announced that Biden had to go to bed, according to two people who were there.

00:12:17.460 So he is now no longer able to stay up to meet with heads of state to discuss matters of war and peace.

00:12:25.980 That's dangerous.

00:12:26.960 And the press is reporting on it.

00:12:28.800 And to make that point, Peter Doocy asked the question at the White House from Fox today.

00:12:38.020 Hey, if the president's only the president till, I don't know, eight o'clock at night, what happens if someone shoots a nuke?

00:12:44.460 Listen to this.

00:12:45.660 Well, he also said he's sharpest before 8 p.m.

00:12:49.740 So, say that the Pentagon, at some point, picks up an incoming nuke.

00:12:54.040 It's 11 p.m.

00:12:55.680 Who do you call?

00:12:56.520 The first lady? 1.00

00:12:57.100 He has a team that lets him know of any news that is pertinent and important to the American people.

00:13:05.320 He has someone that is decided, obviously, with his National Security Council and who gets to tell him that news.

00:13:13.300 Senator, I got to go back to just the White House here.

00:13:17.480 Her response is, he has a team, so calm down.

00:13:21.780 The president's sleeping.

00:13:23.420 I don't think that sits well with the American people anymore.

00:13:27.120 No, it doesn't.

00:13:27.920 That's actually a terrifying response, that if something happens at 11 p.m., well, Joe Biden's not capable to deal with it.

00:13:34.480 But he has a team.

00:13:35.320 There's some underling appointed to the National Security Council, and the underling can deal with it.

00:13:39.920 And, you know, in response to that, I want to play a political ad.

00:13:43.740 Just listen to this ad, and then we're going to talk about what it was.

00:13:47.080 It's 3 a.m., and your children are safe and asleep.

00:13:51.720 But there's a phone in the White House, and it's ringing.

00:13:55.060 Something's happening in the world.

00:13:57.100 Your vote will decide who answers that call.

00:14:00.000 Whether it's someone who already knows the world's leaders, knows the military, someone tested and ready to lead in a dangerous world.

00:14:07.320 It's 3 a.m., and your children are safe and asleep.

00:14:10.420 Who do you want answering the phone?

00:14:15.320 I'm Hillary Clinton, and I approve this message.

00:14:18.100 I mean, they made this the issue, Mr. Senator, right?

00:14:22.000 Like, they're like, you want to be Mr. President?

00:14:24.040 Then you better answer that call at 3 a.m.

00:14:27.080 Well, and let me say to folks listening to this podcast who are relatively young, you may not have heard that ad before.

00:14:34.840 You might have been thinking as you're listening to this ad, wow, this is a new Trump ad.

00:14:38.880 This is a really powerful Trump ad.

00:14:41.040 But then at the very end, you get, I'm Hillary Clinton, and I approve this message.

00:14:45.340 So Hillary Clinton ran that ad in the year 2008, and she was running it against Barack Obama.

00:14:52.200 She was saying Barack Obama was young and inexperienced, and she was much better able to answer the phone than he was.

00:14:58.920 Now, regardless of who was right in that argument, today's Biden White House, it's not a 3 a.m. phone call.

00:15:06.480 They're saying at 11 p.m., sorry, there is no commander-in-chief, but, you know, the deputy special assistant is here and ready to solve the problem.

00:15:15.060 Well, it also says to world leaders, and it is terrifying to think about this,

00:15:18.640 hey, here are the best hours to do something, whether it's attack in this country, whether you're terrorists,

00:15:25.520 or whether it's to do something around the world, because this will be a long period of time

00:15:30.640 before you get a awake president that would even respond or say anything.

00:15:37.120 You know, it is, it's why I do not believe Biden is going to be the nominee,

00:15:44.040 because the facts are piling up, and it's becoming indefensible.

00:15:49.380 It may be Michelle Obama, it may be Kamala Harris, but I think the D's, 1.00

00:15:55.060 that they are going to pull the plug.

00:15:57.940 They are terrified, they are panicking,

00:16:00.020 and every day, as the press continues to turn,

00:16:05.680 look, you mentioned George Stephanopoulos.

00:16:07.620 George Stephanopoulos was asked if he could serve any four more years,

00:16:14.640 and he says no, he doesn't think he can,

00:16:17.500 and then Stephanopoulos backed away and said, quote,

00:16:20.040 earlier today I responded to a question from a passerby I shouldn't have.

00:16:23.700 So he's backing away from...

00:16:26.600 Telling the truth.

00:16:27.840 Exactly.

00:16:28.420 Well, you know, they try not to do that in the press.

00:16:30.980 Yeah.

00:16:32.700 Again, I go back to what I said on this show, I don't know, a week ago.

00:16:37.740 I think they've got another, what, eight, ten days here to go all in

00:16:42.620 to try to get him out, and after that, they may be stuck with this guy,

00:16:46.220 but look, your prediction, you've been right for quite a few times.

00:16:50.680 It still could be somebody at the convention,

00:16:52.940 and that somebody could still be Michelle Obama.

00:16:55.620 Do you still think there's a decent chance of that?

00:16:58.360 I stay by the same odds I had on Monday's podcast.

00:17:02.480 I think there is a 20% chance the Democrat nominee is Joe Biden.

00:17:07.520 I think there's a 40% chance the Democrat nominee is Michelle Obama,

00:17:11.500 and I think there's a 40% chance the Democratic nominee is Kamala Harris.

00:17:16.360 As before, if you want to hear the rest of this conversation on this topic,

00:17:20.360 you can go back and download the podcast from early this week to hear the entire thing.

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00:17:56.400 I want to get back to the big story number three of the week you may have missed.

00:18:00.920 Here is the bombshell CNN report that Cabinet Secretaries not only are submitting questions,

00:18:06.340 but my question now is, is this being done on purpose so that they may actually start talking about the 25th Amendment?

00:18:13.180 Listen to how CNN blew this up today.

00:18:15.760 Get the White House perspective now with CNN's M.J. Lee, who's there for us.

00:18:20.300 M.J., you and your colleagues have some reporting on the mood behind the scenes.

00:18:25.080 What are you hearing from your sources?

00:18:26.940 Well, Boris, there's certainly been a lot of confusion and anger and sadness inside the White House,

00:18:33.080 across the administration, the campaign, and across the Democratic Party more broadly

00:18:37.980 since the president's really halting and shocking debate performance.

00:18:41.660 My colleagues and I have spoken over the course of the last two weeks to dozens of Democratic sources,

00:18:48.120 including, I should note, senior Democrats who have spent real time with the president

00:18:52.960 and in some cases have known the president for years.

00:18:56.620 And what has been striking is that none of them had ever seen this version of President Biden

00:19:02.480 that we all saw on the debate stage that was so faltering and dazed.

00:19:07.560 And plenty of officials that we spoke with said, look, of course, we've known that the president has aged.

00:19:14.020 He is certainly not the same person that we know from, say, a year ago.

00:19:18.620 But what they had said, and that was so noteworthy, is that they said they couldn't have possibly known

00:19:26.400 about the full extent of the president's decline.

00:19:29.580 And what many of them blame at this point is this apparatus and daily operation that is built around the president

00:19:36.620 that is so painfully choreographed and stage managed, they said,

00:19:41.180 that is designed to prevent the president from being often out in these unscripted settings for an extended period of time.

00:19:50.200 And that really what that meant was that only a small circle of inner circle of advisers

00:19:56.700 and perhaps family members could have known about sort of this full picture of the president's condition.

00:20:03.260 Just one example that is in our story is that, according to two sources,

00:20:08.720 before cabinet meetings that the president attends,

00:20:12.220 cabinet officials will submit their questions and talking points,

00:20:16.640 key talking points and bullet points that they plan to present to the president in these closed-door meetings,

00:20:22.460 this is how one source described it.

00:20:24.300 They said the entire display is kind of an act.

00:20:27.340 They would come and say, hey, the president is going to call on you about 25 minutes in

00:20:31.480 and ask this question, what are the bullet points that you'll respond with?

00:20:35.540 Now, the White House's defense has been that that is standard practice for any administration.

00:20:40.000 They said, in a setting like this, you never want the president to be not aware of what is going to be discussed.

00:20:48.200 You look at this, Senator, I sit there and I'm like, okay,

00:20:53.520 you've got people that serve at the pleasure of the president

00:20:56.140 who are now looking out for their own best interests.

00:21:00.420 They don't want to lose their power.

00:21:02.600 You got people on his campaign that apparently have the same mentality as these cabinet members.

00:21:07.440 And all the leaks about Joe Biden are coming from within now.

00:21:12.660 You can't control them.

00:21:14.860 White House leaks destroy presidencies.

00:21:19.180 And now it's like if you're leaking this and you're a senior cabinet member,

00:21:23.340 are you doing it to prep the country for possibly the 25th?

00:21:27.860 Look, I think that prospect is rising.

00:21:30.540 I got to say also the White House defense.

00:21:32.620 Well, this is standard operating procedure.

00:21:34.560 Listen, I have been in literally hundreds of meetings with presidents,

00:21:41.200 whether Donald Trump or Barack Obama.

00:21:44.800 And I've never been in one meeting where we had talking points and it was choreographed.

00:21:51.260 That doesn't happen.

00:21:52.380 I talked to Donald Trump a couple days on the go on the phone call.

00:21:55.640 He didn't know what I was going to say.

00:21:56.880 I didn't know what he was going to say because you're talking to an actual human being.

00:22:00.000 I mean, every day when senators meet, we don't read scripts.

00:22:04.120 Like to do this job, you actually have to be able to talk about colleagues and say,

00:22:08.520 OK, what's going on and ask questions and discuss things.

00:22:11.420 Now, look, you'll read a speech.

00:22:12.660 That's commonplace.

00:22:13.720 But at a meeting, a cabinet meeting where they're supposed to be your top advisors,

00:22:17.620 I meet with my senior staff every week.

00:22:20.940 My senior staff don't come in there.

00:22:23.020 I don't ask them, give me the talking points of what you're going to say before you say it,

00:22:26.600 because professionals are able to have a conversation, listen and process information.

00:22:33.120 And by the way, then ask follow up questions.

00:22:36.420 What about this?

00:22:37.180 Well, should we do this?

00:22:37.940 What do you think about this?

00:22:38.880 OK, let's let's go down this direction.

00:22:41.300 That's actually the way presidents operate.

00:22:43.580 I've been in bunches of free flowing presidential meetings with Trump or we'd be all over the place.

00:22:49.420 And, you know, people argue on one side and argue on the other.

00:22:51.660 And Trump will say, what about this?

00:22:53.140 And I mean, we would you know, I've been up in the White House residence with him and a couple other senators with people screaming at each other till 10, 1030 at night.

00:23:01.540 That is dramatically different from the kabuki theater that Joe Biden was putting on.

00:23:07.880 Now, to be clear, his entire cabinet was complicit.

00:23:11.340 His entire White House staff was complicit.

00:23:13.680 The Democrats in Congress were complicit.

00:23:15.520 They all knew this.

00:23:16.400 They're all saying, gosh, we're shocked, just absolutely shocked.

00:23:19.420 I've told you, Biden won't meet with Republican senators.

00:23:22.020 That's been true for three and a half years.

00:23:23.820 I haven't had any meeting with President Biden members now, right?

00:23:26.440 Yeah, it's not just you guys.

00:23:27.540 It's now the cabinet you won't even meet with.

00:23:29.420 Yeah.

00:23:29.600 Look, when Republican senators meet to have lunch, we talk about how weird it is that we haven't talked to Joe Biden.

00:23:36.620 We all know Joe.

00:23:37.500 He was a man of the Senate for 40 years.

00:23:39.600 But they won't let him meet with us because this has been obvious for three and a half years.

00:23:46.380 And the media, the Democrats, they were all complicit until the debate thrust it unavoidably in front of the public.

00:23:54.460 And now they're all running scared.

00:23:56.200 Does this change the calculus in your mind for Democrats moving forward?

00:24:01.720 I mean, I thought by the end of this week they would get back in line behind him.

00:24:07.080 We don't seem to have that happening at all.

00:24:11.220 And it now seems that from within are the people that are hurting him the most.

00:24:18.000 I'll give you an example.

00:24:19.160 Jake Tapper went on his show on CNN today, and this is what he said.

00:24:23.220 Let's bring in our panel.

00:24:24.500 And on that note, I want to share something with you all that a longtime Biden advisor just texted me.

00:24:31.920 OK, he or she said, quote, I just think there's an unfortunate inevitability to all this.

00:24:38.960 I am sad because I've known him a long time and he is a good man.

00:24:43.180 I'm angry at his inner circle who have not served him well and at times committed malpractice in their service.

00:24:49.000 And I am frustrated at the family, the Biden family, for not expanding the circle.

00:24:53.500 So there would be at least a truth teller or two in their midst. 1.00

00:24:57.980 They created a perfect storm of an echo chamber and it is biting them all in the ass. 0.99

00:25:04.340 Again, as with MJ, apologies for the salty language, but this is the extent of the frustration. 0.99

00:25:11.100 Gloria, your reaction.

00:25:12.360 Again, this is Jake Tapper.

00:25:14.600 He's not burning somebody.

00:25:16.480 This advisor, this longtime advisor, I think, made it very clear that for.

00:25:23.420 Well, listen, listen, like Ron, go on TV.

00:25:26.740 Yeah, listen, Ron Klain sent that text expecting that Jake Tapper would would read it on on air.

00:25:33.620 And by the way, I don't know it was Ron Klain.

00:25:35.460 I'm just just picking.

00:25:36.580 Yeah.

00:25:36.840 I mean, whoever said go on, go on air and read this.

00:25:40.060 I'm letting you do it.

00:25:41.420 Look, you don't send it to Jake Tapper without expecting that he's going to repeat it.

00:25:45.160 That's why you're sending it.

00:25:46.600 And look, the press is turning on him.

00:25:49.260 And remember, like, 12 minutes ago where the corporate media would say it's a tinfoil hat conspiracy theory when you say that Obama's running things?

00:25:59.620 We've said a number of times in this podcast that it's Obama who's pulling the strings.

00:26:04.000 I want you to listen to Morning Joe talking about who's really behind everything right now.

00:26:11.900 Give a listen.

00:26:12.340 Before I play that, I want to tell you about our friends at the International Fellowship of Christians and Jews.

00:26:17.420 Since the start of the Sword of Iron War in Israel on October the 7th, we have seen death and destruction in the Holy Land. 0.76

00:26:24.340 And for more than 40 years, the International Fellowship of Christians and Jews has been on the ground in Israel.

00:26:30.160 And within hours of the war starting and every day since, they've been feeding the hungry and protecting the vulnerable.

00:26:35.420 The attacks continue in the north and the south in Israel.

00:26:38.400 But there are resilient survivors who bravely share their stories in a series the Fellowship calls Faces of Iron.

00:26:46.500 I want you to hear their stories because so many in the media have not been covering them.

00:26:52.840 Survivors, for example, like Danny, whose beloved daughter and her husband were burned alive on October the 7th by Hamas terrorists, need to be heard by the world.

00:27:02.180 Danny is a commander of the volunteer fire and rescue in his community.

00:27:05.400 Despite fire equipment nearby, Danny could do nothing as his daughter's house burned and his daughter and her husband lost their lives.

00:27:13.540 Christians like you support Israel through the International Fellowship of Christians and Jews. 0.54

00:27:18.400 It's this support that helps these survivors remain steadfast and strong.

00:27:22.500 I want you to hear more of their stories like the one I just mentioned.

00:27:25.960 And I want you to show your support for Israel and stand with the people of Israel.

00:27:29.620 All you have to do to hear these stories and spread them on social media is go to support ifcj.org.

00:27:37.240 That's support ifcj.org.

00:27:41.700 Here's that clip, Senator, that you mentioned a moment ago.

00:27:44.180 Morning, Joe.

00:27:44.900 Hey, one thing that we do have to underline here, just so so viewers can can follow what's going on behind the scenes is is the Biden campaign and many Democratic officials do believe that Barack Obama is is quietly working behind the scenes to orchestrate this.

00:28:06.900 Yes, I mean, if you and I had said that a month ago, they would go crazy.

00:28:15.040 They would mock us.

00:28:15.880 Now.

00:28:16.180 Now, I want to play also what Mika Brzezinski said about the George Clooney op ed, because that's just give a listen to what Mika says.

00:28:23.520 Yeah, this wasn't George Clooney.

00:28:25.320 But but what do you mean?

00:28:27.740 It just wasn't.

00:28:28.740 Come on.

00:28:29.400 But who do you think it was?

00:28:31.020 It was not Matt Damon.

00:28:33.240 It wasn't Julia Roberts.

00:28:34.660 Who do you think it was?

00:28:36.240 You can say the name.

00:28:37.700 You won't melt.

00:28:38.460 It's not Voldemort.

00:28:40.420 Are you saying you think Barack Obama put him up to this?

00:28:43.680 I think that Barack Obama has a lot of influence.

00:28:47.280 And I think that there's there's a lot there.

00:28:52.820 There's a lot there.

00:28:53.900 There's a lot there.

00:28:54.720 There's a lot there.

00:28:55.660 There are two people in this picture.

00:28:58.400 And one has had a presidency that was absolutely undeniably historic.

00:29:05.840 Yeah.

00:29:06.820 Well, I think you have two people that had extraordinarily historic in terms of legislative accomplishments.

00:29:14.920 Well, well, you say and they're both historic and they're both historic and Barack Obama.

00:29:20.800 For sure.

00:29:21.260 Affordable Care Act.

00:29:22.280 George.

00:29:23.200 I mean, not George Clooney.

00:29:24.820 You know, he probably said it to Willie.

00:29:26.580 But Joe Biden actually whispered that that was a big deal.

00:29:31.760 Effing deal.

00:29:32.460 Well, this is the conversation they're having on MSNBC as George Clooney comes out.

00:29:40.360 I love Joe Biden, but we need a new nominee.

00:29:43.840 Yeah.

00:29:44.020 And to be clear, Politico also reported, quote, before Hollywood icon and Democratic donor

00:29:49.380 George Clooney published his buzzy and brutal New York Times op ed yesterday calling on Biden

00:29:54.620 to step aside as the nominee, we're told he reached out to former President Barack Obama

00:29:59.560 to give him the heads up.

00:30:00.520 The two men who are friendly both attended the L.A.

00:30:03.360 fundraiser Clooney referenced in his piece where the actor said he'd beheld a diminished

00:30:07.680 Biden and that the leader he interacted with was, quote, the same man we all witnessed at

00:30:12.880 the debate.

00:30:13.880 While Obama did not encourage or advise Clooney to said what he said, he also didn't object

00:30:20.820 to it.

00:30:21.700 We're told from people familiar with their exchange.

00:30:24.580 The lack of pushback is an eye popping revelation given that the former president was one of the

00:30:30.000 first big voices defending Biden following his abysmal debate performance, while many of

00:30:35.120 his former aides have been some of the incumbent's biggest critics.

00:30:38.420 Again, if you and I said that 12 minutes ago, they would have fitted us for the tinfoil hats

00:30:44.920 and said we were loons.

00:30:46.160 And now every one of them is saying this is Barack Obama pulling the strings.

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