How the Hell did the Trump Assassination Attempt Happen? Catastrophic Security Failures-What went wrong?
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Ted Cruz and Ben Fergusons discuss the attempted assassination of President Donald Trump, and the Democratic response to it. They also talk about the incessant, violent, hateful, horrifying rhetoric from the media and politicians who demanded to know who was responsible.
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Welcome. It is Verdict with Senator Ted Cruz, Ben Ferguson with you.
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And Senator, the big question I think everyone in this country is asking themselves right now
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and talking about is, how did this happen? What went wrong?
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Well, we're a day and a half removed from the first presidential assassination attempt since 1981,
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since the assassination attempt on Ronald Reagan. A day and a half ago, Donald Trump was shot by a
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crazed assassin. And I got to say, what millions of Americans are thinking is, how in the hell
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did this happen? What went wrong? Why did Secret Service not stop this? Why was there not additional
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security? Why was this guy able to get on a damn roof and fire a rifle at the president?
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And where were the security protocols to prevent that? We're going to break that down.
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And we're also going to talk about the incessant, violent, hateful, horrifying rhetoric from Democrats
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that pressed and pressed and pressed and pressed until this happened. And right now they're acting
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like they're utterly innocent. They have no idea why anyone would look to them as playing a role
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causing this horrific assassination attempt. We're going to talk about that too.
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BlackoutCoffee.com slash verdict. Senator, the question that everybody is asking is, and you
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mentioned it, how did this happen? And not only that, but there's these eyewitness accounts
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that have come out that lend to that question becoming even more of an outrage. Like, how
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the hell did this happen? Yeah. No, no, no. It's infuriating. And I want to start by a BBC
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interview with a gentleman who was at the rally. He was standing outside the rally, but he witnessed
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the shooter before the shooting, and he was desperately trying to point him out to law
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enforcement. And it's just, this came out within minutes of the shooting happening, and it really
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You weren't inside the event, but you were just outside. Tell us what you saw.
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So, so we had a party here all day. You can see behind us, the Brinkels Farming Greenhouse
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here. We had a party. And we all decided, hey, you know, when we hear Trump up there,
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we're going to walk up through the field, stand by the trees out there under the shade,
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and watch the rain, and listen to the rally, right? We couldn't see him, but we could hear
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him. So we walked up, and probably five to seven minutes of Trump speaking, I'm estimating
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here, I have no idea, you know, but we noticed a guy crawling, you know, bear crawling up the
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roof of the building beside us, 50 feet away from us. So we're standing there, you know,
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we're pointing, we're pointing at the guy crawling up the roof.
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He had a rifle. We could clearly see him with a rifle, absolutely. We're pointing at him,
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the police are down there running around on the ground. We're like, hey, man, there's
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a guy on the roof with a rifle. And the police are like, huh, what? You know, like, like,
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they didn't know what was going on. You know, we're like, hey, right here on the roof,
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we can see him from right here. We see him, you know, he's, he's crawling. And next thing
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you know, I'm like, I'm thinking to myself, I'm like, why is Trump still speaking? Why
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have they not pulled him off the stage? I'm standing there pointing at him for, you know,
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two or three minutes. Secret Service is looking at us from the top of the barn. I'm pointing
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at that roof, just standing there like this. And next thing you know, five shots ran out.
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So you're, you're certain that the shots came from that guy on the roof?
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And he, he was up there for a couple of minutes. He was up there.
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Three to four minutes for a couple of minutes. Absolutely. At least three to four minutes.
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And you were telling the police and the Secret Service. We were telling the police,
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we were pointing at him for the Secret Service who were looking at us from the top of the barn.
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They were looking at us the whole time when we were standing by that tree.
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Probably not because the roof, the way the slope went, he was behind where they could see.
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But, but why is there not Secret Service on all of these roofs here? I mean, this is not a big place.
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Did you see, I mean, obviously everyone, when the shooting started, everyone was very panicked.
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Okay, just be careful because we don't know quite who's watching.
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But you're pretty sure they, they, they shot the guy?
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And did you see them go up to him afterwards or?
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They had their guns pointed at him, make sure he was dead.
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I, I, no, other than he was in muted colors, tan type clothing.
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We saw the rifle flinging around as he was trying to crawl.
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I wouldn't know, you know, I wasn't close enough to read the label on it.
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So what are you, how do you process what you've just seen?
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I'll tell you is, you know, if I, if I walked up close to there with anything that secret servers
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considered a problem, I wouldn't be standing here talking to you right now, but I don't
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know why a guy who we're standing there pointing now to police and secret service is crawling
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But my question is, there's only a few buildings around here.
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Why is secret service not on every building here?
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There's a whole bunch of questions, I think, that are going to come.
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And, and I, and I do think it's important because there's been a lot of people that have
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been critical of the, of the, the snipers that took him out saying, how did they not
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You notice he said, I'm sure they couldn't see him on the back part of the roof.
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And I think that's important that those guys did their job when they saw him from what
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And this guy saying, look, they couldn't see him where he was.
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Well, and, and that really goes to, to the preparation.
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Of secret service for the event and for the manpower that, that, that it certainly appears
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there was woefully insufficient manpower to make that rally safe.
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The snipers on the other side of, of, of the roof from everything, it appears, couldn't
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see him because the roof was sloped away that where the sniper was, was 164 yards away from
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It's certainly not far with, with a rifle, with a scope, 164 yards.
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By the way, it's, I talked today to someone that is in secret service and he said, that
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is 20% of the range that they train to look for.
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So this would be, if you were laying out, okay, that's 10% away of what we train for.
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This guy was within 20% of what they train for to look for snipers.
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Well, and, and, uh, a story that also broke the associated pet press, uh, reported yesterday,
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uh, quote, a local law enforcement officer climbed to the roof and found crooks.
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The, the gunman who pointed the rifle at the officer, the officer retreated down the ladder
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The official said that's when us secret service gunman shot him.
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The official said, so that's really astonishing.
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That means law enforcement saw him before he fired the shots, came up the ladder.
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Now, presumably we don't know the answer to this right now, but presumably that law enforcement
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Not in the same frequency, which reminds me so much.
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And my next question, he was going to be about what we saw after 9-11.
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And after 9-11, what we realized was, is that there were too many government agencies that
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weren't able to talk to one another that weren't talking to one another.
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It was FBI over here, uh, secret service over here, uh, and then the CIA over here,
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and they weren't sharing information the way that they needed to.
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Is it possible that in 2024, we have everyone at this event, but they're not able to speak
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It is astonishing and, and, and look at the timing of this.
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So you've got this guy on the roof, a police officer comes up the ladder.
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He turns around, points the gun at the police officer.
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Look, I don't fault the police officer for ducking back down when you get a rifle pointed
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at you, but it takes a little bit of time for a gunman to turn around then and aim and
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sight up and fire the shots and fire them close enough, uh, that they hit the president's
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Presumably, if they're on the same frequency, the instant the officer sees him in your microphone,
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you're yelling gun, gun, gun, and the snipers can immediately train on him.
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So when the guy pokes his head over to shoot, they can take him out right then.
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Well, and not even that, if you, if you went through it and they said, shooter, shooter,
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shooter, you would immediately grab the president and pull him to the ground or rush him off
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And, and, and that's what that, that observer was saying.
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Like, like he's, he's frustrated out of his mind.
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And, and, and let me just pause and say, thank God.
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I believe God's protection was on Donald Trump.
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He turned his head, had that bullet been an inch or even a half an inch to the left,
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we could be dealing with a very different show right now, with a completed assassination.
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Like, and I do believe it was God's providence that, that, that, that made that bullet miss.
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But we need to ask, and I want you to listen also.
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So Dan Bongino was on Fox and friends and, and you and I are both friends with Dan.
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He's a terrific guy, but former secret service agent for people that may not know that for
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So what Dan did before he got into radio and began commenting is he was a secret service
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So he, he knows secret service, presidential protection at a level, frankly, that unless
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you've been done it service for, for a decade or more, you don't know it.
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I want you to listen to this interview because it really does highlight the massive, massive
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Your thoughts on this, Dan, just, just continue where you left off on the reaction here.
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And this is why, again, I think the secret service, uh, the, the PR Anthony Guglielmi has
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You know, he says in his, in his, in his ex post, and you can read it yourself.
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You don't need to hear it from me that they deployed these extra resources and technology.
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Well, which ones you're telling me the best technology you have was deployed and you missed, uh, a
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shooter, 130 yards, say it was 200 yards, the secret service CS team, Pete, the counter
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And I'm not sure those two guys are secret service.
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We have to remember that we don't always, when we go to New York, sometimes with high
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level protectees, we'll use NYPD ESU counter sniper.
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So I'm not really sure they either way, they'd still be briefed in.
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The question we have to ask is if that's the best technology we have.
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And we had a CS team up there with a shooter that, you know, we're trained out to a thousand
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yards in the secret service with the counter sniper team.
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How did they miss someone, uh, at, at, at most, you know, one fifth of the way there?
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And, and, and even worse, it's broad daylight on a white roof.
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Was there forward looking inter infrared deployed?
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Uh, you know, something happened to, if you go back and listen to the audio, I want you
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When Donald Trump, after this tragic thing happens, you'll see the secret service agents.
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And by the way, I know some of those guys personally, I want, it takes a lot to run into bullets
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So at least they did that part, you know, correctly.
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And they knew what they were doing, uh, after the security absolutely failed, but you're going
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If you listen closely, the, the guys mentions Hawkeye on the scene.
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He's talking about those two, uh, the black BDU with the tactical gear cat element, that
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two man cat element that stands for counter assault team.
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That's a secret service special weapons team, equivalent to our SWAT.
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They all deployed the bunting around the front of the stage is probably armor.
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I mean, most, most people would, he saved his own life.
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I mean, the rule with the secret service is cover the protectee and evacuate.
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The other rule is maximum to the protectee minimum to the problem.
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So if you don't jump on the protectee, you could be looking at multiple shooters.
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So at least that part, the guys there, you know, stepped up there, but the failure here
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And I got to tell you, the secret service should be very careful.
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I can tell you and absolutely confirm from the horse's mouth, from multiple people, not
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And I saw Congressman Waltz text this out before on X.
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There have been repeated requests to increase the security footprint around not just the
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residences of Donald Trump, but the body itself.
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The secret service directors completely failed and candidly should resign today.
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Kim Cheadle has failed Donald Trump and honestly failed Joe Biden, too.
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So just to be clear, we're a four trillion dollar United States government and we can't fork
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And then you're sending out tweets like, oh, this is the best technology we have really
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to let a sniper one hundred fifty yards away from the potential next president shoot a piece
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And I want to ask you this because it was the question that I was asked and I was I was
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sitting today at lunch with a guy that has taken out some of the worst terrorists literally
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And the question that I was asking him was like, how does this even get happened?
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He said, number one, Ben, he goes, they didn't have enough people.
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He said, I don't know how with the budget that they have, how they didn't have enough
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money to pay for enough people to cover the president of the United States of America.
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And I think that's a very valid point that many Americans are asking themselves right
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Forget if you're Republican or Democrat, Senator, we pay a lot of money in taxes.
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You're telling me that we're but we're we got a line item here that we're really worried
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about and a budget here on Secret Service to protect the president.
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The United States of America, whether it's a former or current.
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Well, as Dan Bongino rightly said, there were clearly catastrophic security failures.
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And I want to draw a distinction between the individual Secret Service agents.
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They put their bodies in front of Donald Trump.
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They stood up and surrounded him and were there to block a bullet.
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And and and and and so the criticism is not of those individual agents who did everything
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And it is ultimately of the political leadership.
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It is Alejandro Mayorkas who is completely AWOL on this.
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And listen, Bongino is exactly right that the head of the Secret Service should resign over
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I was going to ask you, you believe that the Secret Service, the head should resign?
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I joined with a number of other senators calling on Dick Durbin, the chairman of the Senate Judiciary
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Committee, to hold an emergency hearing, bringing together the head of the Secret Service and
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the Secretary of Homeland Security and Chris Wray, the director of the FBI, for a hearing to
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And it, it's clear, you didn't have manpower on the other roofs.
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And you know, one of the interesting things, every other security detail, if you have a security
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detail that is Capitol Police, if you have security detail that is with a governor or with
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a mayor, generally speaking, they can't control their environment.
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So they go into whatever the environment is and the officers there are trying to protect
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the protectee, but they can't control their environment.
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When they come in, they control the environment.
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They have the ability to come in and look at the environment and say, OK, if there's a
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And by the way, you don't have to get crazy hypothetical about a high powered rifle with
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I mean, we're aware that is one of the principal ways that an assassin will look to take out
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And I'll tell you that there was another story that broke today, which was sent out by Real
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Clear Politics that says, and I want to read this from Susan Crabtree from Real Clear Politics.
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Quote, this is the problem that my secret sources have cited.
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Secret Service's resources were diverted to Jill Biden's event and away from Trump's because
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they followed agency protocol applying to Trump as a former president, according to two sources
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There were also many supplemental agents from different field officers, not Trump's regular
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detail, providing security at the rally because Trump's regular detail has been overworked.
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Some working seven days straight and only two counter snipers.
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He is the first in modern history to have run for president again.
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And he has been the focus of several prosecutions and controversies under statement intentional.
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Who made the decision to divert the resources to Jill Biden's event?
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First lady, Dr. Jill Biden and former president Donald Trump campaigning in Pittsburgh today.
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So the reporting is they pulled Secret Service resources away from Trump's rally to the event
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Now, look, the first lady needs to be protected.
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But to what extent is Secret Service treating Trump simply as another former president rather
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than right now the leading candidate to be president of the United States and someone who has been
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But but it's targeted with vitriol such that there is a threat level against him that any
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Canadian women are looking for more, more out of themselves, their businesses, their elected
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And that's why we're thrilled to introduce the Honest Talk podcast.
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I would love to know the threat assessment, and I hope that you guys in Congress get this,
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because I would want to know how many threats are coming in against Donald Trump, even
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compared to Joe Biden, even are compared to Barack Obama or compared to George W.
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I mean, the number has got to be staggering of legitimate threats coming in.
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We're talking about a significant number of active threats.
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You would assume if you're doing your job the right way.
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We didn't have aerial because you would spot a guy getting on a white roof, putting up a
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ladder, apparently, if you had any aerial surveillance.
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So I'm assuming they did not play the rest of Dan Bongino.
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And look, this is a long interview, but his expertise is is unusual.
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And so I want to play the rest of what he had to say.
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Dan, I mean, you bring up so many amazing points and I just don't even know where to
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begin, except to ask you, why would the Secret Service not beef up more security for the man
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who is most likely to be assassinated in the entire world?
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Is it that this woman, Kimberly Cheadle, the director, is incompetent?
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Well, you know, Rachel, it's my job if I'm going to give an opinion to back it up.
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The difference between one opinion over the other in a courtroom and anywhere else is can
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I want everyone at home going on your phone or computer now, and I want you to look up
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The Secret Service was more concerned about protective agents around Donald Trump.
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If you think I'm making this up, go to your face, go to a left wing search engine if you
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They were more concerned about the color of the Secret Service agents ties around Donald
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Trump, given the perception that a red tie was somehow.
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This is what the Secret Service was concerned about.
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They put out, you know, a thousand tweets about all of this DEI stuff.
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I'm just saying, like, you have one job and only one job.
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Your job is keep the body alive, no matter what.
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Donald Trump, Joe Biden, Jill Biden, the president of DeJabuti.
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This should be the subject of congressional hearings and investigations, because if they
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can't do this and this is the best technology you had, then, folks, there's no purpose anymore.
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And I'm telling you, I know some of those guys personally.
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But this this was an apocalyptic security failure.
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And don't ever forget, an uneventful failure is never a success.
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And the fact that Donald Trump didn't die yesterday is no reason for anybody to take some kind of victory lap.
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And before we start sending out plaudits, we better look and do a hot wash on this and find out exactly how abysmal this security plan was.
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Senator, let's talk about the DEI, the PC-ness, the bureaucracy aspect of Joe Biden's administration.
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The Secret Service director, a few months ago, went on a PR campaign.
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And they went on, CBS is one of the things that they did,
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and they deliberately spoke about focusing on hiring more women to be more diverse.
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They have a classic plan that, right, the left loves, 30% female recruits by 2030.
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To expand hiring, they're aiming to have 30% women recruits by 2030,
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and even allowed YouTube influencer, Michelle Carey, to train with ages.
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But I'm very conscious as I sit in this chair now of making sure that we need to attract diverse candidates
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and ensure that we are developing and giving opportunities to everybody in our workforce, and particularly women.
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That workforce will be pivotal for the 2024 campaign season,
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which for the first time includes a former president who already has lifetime protection.
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Agents were there when Donald Trump was arraigned in New York.
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We were able to work out the details ahead of time of how that particular day was going to go,
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but we will always ensure the safety of all of our protectees that we have.
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pretending this field is the most famous address in America.
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To be clear, I don't care if a woman is the person protecting the president,
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as long as she's the best person to protect the president.
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for the last several months about diversity and hiring,
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And if there's any place I don't want a quota to be filled,
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it would be protecting the president of the United States of America,
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hey, all right, we're going to grab 17 people that are this color,
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of what we've seen throughout the Biden administration,
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getting intelligence on Hamas to prevent October 7th,
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they're focused on pushing the language police,
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on ferreting out what they deem insufficiently inclusive language.
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You just heard Dan Bongino talking about the damn red ties,
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and the mission should be front and center focused
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The consequences far too often are catastrophic.
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my family and I started living a real life nightmare.