00:01:27.160We now know that the famous letter by the 51 former Intel officials, we now know that the CIA reviewed and approved the letter that Mr. Morrell put together and 51 of these folks, 50 other of these folks signed.
00:01:40.740We also now have evidence that suggests that one of the individuals who signed it got a call from the publication review board.
00:01:49.380He had something pending in front of this board, a different book that he was writing.
00:01:52.620And they called to tell him, hey, we've approved your book.
00:01:56.040You can, because they're looking for any classified concerns and classified issue concerns.
00:02:00.000They called to say, you can, you can go, you can move forward with, with your book.
00:02:04.620But while we got you, would you be interested in signing this letter that Mr. Morrell put together talking about how the Biden laptop story was, was Russian, you know, information operation.
00:02:15.720So you now have what looks like the CIA actively recruiting and shopping this letter to people.
00:02:22.680This is the CIA that worked for President Trump.
00:02:25.660And we, when we deposed Mike Morrell, of course, he told us that the reason he put the letter together was he wanted Biden to have a talking point in the debate that was coming up a few days later.
00:02:37.000And he wanted Biden to win the election.
00:02:39.000And of course, they put that all together.
00:02:42.520And, um, and so much so that when the debate was over, the campaign called up Mike Morrell, Steve Reschetti, the chair of the Biden campaign, called him up to thank him for, for putting it all together.
00:02:53.700And so you have this kind of coordination going on.
00:02:58.780And, uh, it's, it's why we have the committees doing the oversight work we're doing.
00:03:02.180So this is big new breaking news that, that your committee broke late last night.
00:03:07.000That number one, before this letter with 51 intelligence officials came out, that the CIA signed off on it with their review committee, number one.
00:03:17.860But number two, that an active employee of the CIA pitched the letter to one of the signers, uninvited, said, hey, have you signed this letter yet?
00:03:28.080And, and in fact, you sent, you, you reached out to each of the 51 signers and you asked him about, okay, how did this come to pass?
00:03:36.340And, and actually what, what this individual says is he comes back and says that he was, he had a book.
00:03:58.300The person asked me if I would be willing to sign.
00:04:01.780I do not recall the person's name or the exact date of the phone call upon hearing the letters, contents and the qualifiers in it, such as we want to emphasize, we do not know if the emails provided to the New York Post by President Trump's personal attorney, Rudy Giuliani are genuine or not.
00:04:16.460And that we do not have evidence of Russian involvement.
00:04:43.800And when they called him to say, Hey, your book's been approved, by the way, would you be interested in signing this letter that's being put together?
00:06:38.720And Joe Biden, of course, uses it during the campaign.
00:06:40.480You mentioned quid pro quo, and there's a lot of people that had incentive to make sure that Joe Biden became president.
00:06:50.640Anthony Blinken obviously got the biggest job of his career.
00:06:53.780When you look at this letter now, knowing how people are jockeying for position, how much do you think that played into their decision making?
00:08:24.440And everyone has a First Amendment right to weigh in on a campaign and politics and speak your mind and say what you believe.
00:08:31.260But this was done with the added weight of the title associated with their name.
00:08:37.640It was presented to the country, to we the people, as if it was an organic thing that just happened when we know it was done at the prompting of Blinken calling Mike Morrell and Mike Morrell ran with it.
00:08:50.780We even know that the Biden campaign was telling Mike Morrell, here is the journalist.
00:09:08.020And then, of course, it's it's part of this this this bigger thing where we see the Biden's involved in so many things that cause concerns.
00:10:11.920And this letter, you know, one of the people who helped edit it was James Clapper, who was the director of national intelligence under Obama, who made an editorial suggestion.
00:10:20.960And he said, quote, I have one editorial suggestion for the letter.
00:10:24.060I think it would strengthen the verbiage.
00:10:26.360If you say this has all of the classic earmarks of a Soviet Russian information operation rather than the, quote, feel of a Russian observation operation rather.
00:10:38.480So it's just initially it was just a feel, but the no, no, no, no, earmarks.
00:10:46.260The federal government knew this was a lie.
00:10:48.040And in fact, the Department of Justice had taken physical possession of the laptop almost a year earlier, December 9th, 2019, December 2019.
00:11:00.700And in addition to doing this, they were they were what we talked about before, pre-bunking the whole the whole leak that was going to that they assumed was going to happen.
00:11:11.160So they had been leading up to this this October time frame.
00:11:14.640They had been telling Elvis Chan with the FBI had been telling the big tech companies, hey, be on the lookout for a hack and leak operation.
00:12:28.540I mean, should the American people expect more from a human being working at the CIA than to be working basically on behalf of a political campaign?
00:12:38.000And is there any repercussions for this individual now that we know what happened?
00:12:42.100Well, of course, it's as inappropriate.
00:12:44.360And as the senator said, when we actually had Mike Burrell in for his interview, he said that this is entirely inappropriate.
00:12:50.680I think he even said I have to go back and look at the transcript and look at our report.
00:12:53.660But I think he even said that might have changed my whole decision whether this letter ever happened or not, because it's so wrong for someone to be trying to to shop and recruit people to sign on to something like this.
00:13:05.040The other fact that that's in our report is we asked this of Mr. Morell, because on the 19th, October 19th, 2020, when the letter comes out in that afternoon, earlier that morning, John Ratcliffe, director of national intelligence in the Trump administration, is doing an interview and he's asked about it.
00:13:23.300And he says on the interview, he says it wasn't Russian disinformation.
00:13:27.880I asked Mr. Morell, I said, you know, the day you put this out earlier that morning, the head of ODNI, Mr. Ratcliffe said, wasn't Russian misinformation operation disinformation at all?
00:13:37.500And I said, you know, what do you have to say?
00:13:39.740He basically said, we thought he was wrong, which to me is amazing.
00:13:45.440Yeah, we just we thought it had to be because it because we'd seen it before.
00:13:48.820They don't have had all the, you know, the markings, all the earmarks, classic earmarks.
00:13:54.240They actually believed it, I think, in many ways.
00:13:56.340But it's funny that the arrogance that, you know, the guy in the government getting the information in real time, assessing the intelligence that they're gathering, says one thing.
00:14:07.760But the guys on the outside, so much smarter than, you know, think they're so much better.
00:14:12.020They reach a completely different conclusion and write the letter.
00:15:53.960So they said they had they're walking out to the press conference and I said, no, I said, I'm not going to or we're not going to give you the billion dollars.
00:16:20.520And they put in place someone who was solid.
00:16:24.660That's a moment that I think everybody's going to remember where the Biden crime family to me basically was created as an American issue in this campaign and his presidency moving forward.
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00:17:06.740I want to go back in time and ask you, you saw that debate.
00:17:12.120You saw him lie, but you were watching as a spectator in a sense.
00:17:15.920When did this hit your desk from an investigative standpoint?
00:17:19.540And when did you realize there was something here with the Biden crime family?
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00:18:11.740But then it changed from your perspective when it was like there's something really here that needs to be looked at and people are lying.
00:18:19.400Yeah. And how it fits in with what we've called the weaponization of government and how government has been turned on the American people, particularly this censorship issue.
00:18:30.700As Mr. Taibbi and Mr. Schellenberger called it, the censorship industrial complex, big government in cahoots with big tech, big media to keep information from we the people and in the context of a presidential election.
00:18:45.380So if you go back and read, we've kind of touched on it, but you read Schellenberger's Twitter files.
00:18:49.760I believe it's number seven where he walks us through this whole Hunter Biden laptop and then prepping big tech that, oh, there may be this hack and leak in October.
00:19:00.720It'll involve Hunter Biden and prepping this, getting him ready for what was coming.
00:19:05.860And then how I viewed the letter from the 51 Intel officials was that was the last straw.
00:19:10.700That was what sealed the deal because big tech was already sort of prepped for it.
00:19:36.780And that's what kept the story suppressed and I think impacted the presidential election.
00:19:41.360Well, Jim, let me play devil's advocate.
00:19:43.940Why did it matter that the story was suppressed?
00:19:46.920What's so damning on the laptop that they had to go to these extraordinary measures to keep it out of the public eye right before the election?
00:20:26.440Remember, he testified, or he didn't testify this, but he said this one, I believe it was a Tucker Carlson interview, if I remember correctly.
00:20:46.360And Bob Alinsky's signature's on the documents.
00:20:47.560Yeah, the letter from the 51 was that final straw that they were, the press, big tech, were all muddying this up in the Biden campaign, of course.
00:20:57.220And then that letter comes in, and it's like, 51.
00:21:00.240I remember Joe Biden didn't hold it up, but in essence, he was basically holding it up.
00:21:03.800He was saying, 50, as if they did it on their own, but they were coordinating this whole thing.
00:21:09.720And, you know, the 10% for the big guy, we've talked a lot on Verdict about how the Biden DOJ desperately wants to hang Hunter out to dry, but make everything personal.
00:21:23.140Make it about a drug use or make it about tax crimes that are unique to him.
00:21:31.720What they want to do, I believe, is insulate the big guy.
00:21:35.600And the laptop is a huge problem for that because it connects Joe Biden, then the sitting vice president, into the sale of influence that Hunter was in the business of selling influence to the Chinese Communist Party.
00:21:51.840And what's amazing is more and more evidence is coming out that this is not just selling influence.
00:21:56.680It's actually, I guess in a way, it ought to be encouraging that buying a vice president isn't cheap.
00:23:48.260But the whistleblower is alleging some pretty serious stuff as well.
00:23:50.880So tell us about what the whistleblower is alleging.
00:23:52.960My understanding is the whistleblower went to Senator Grassley.
00:23:55.080Senator Grassley and Chairman Comer sent a letter to the FBI saying a whistleblower has alleged that there's a document that is from a paid informant.
00:24:03.640The FBI has had some foreign national paid informant who gave information to someone in the FBI that this whistleblower, different individuals.
00:24:13.560But this whistleblower has actually, I guess, believes there is this document conveying that that the Biden family was doing certain policy, pushing certain policies and getting getting paid to do that.
00:24:26.520So I don't know if it's true, but the whistleblower has come forward and believes it is.
00:24:33.600The FBI is due to give an answer today.
00:24:35.760And we'll see what comes back from the FBI.
00:24:37.900I want to ask you about, you know, we now have real questions about what was going on at the CIA, clearly from this breaking news that you brought to us.
00:24:46.480But the second part of this is there's a lot of Americans that have zero faith in the FBI now.
00:24:52.320And the reason why is they had the laptop, we know, for a very long time before this story even broke.
00:24:57.520Tony Bobulinski, it took him going public to finally get a meeting with them.
00:25:02.080He gets a meeting with a guy at the FBI, tells him everything.
00:25:06.840When you start investigating this, how worried were you that the FBI didn't do their job in investigating this?
00:25:13.780Instead, actually, we were told, try to label it as disinformation so no one could even see the intel they had at the FBI.
00:25:21.580Yeah, we're very concerned about a number of federal agencies.
00:25:25.400But I will tell you, relative to the Justice Department and the FBI, we have had a, well, I think upwards of 22 dozen whistleblowers who've come talk to us.
00:25:35.600We've interviewed six, and we're going to have some of them testify.
00:25:38.700And they talk about a number of things, but largely it's the double standard, one set of rules for the politically connected, a different set if you're conservative.
00:25:46.340They talk about the pressure to categorize cases as domestic violent extremism cases and how they dealt with the January 6th issue.
00:25:54.960So we, I think it could be as early as next week, but we're looking to have several of those that we've had interviews with, those whistleblowers from the FBI testify and tell their story.
00:26:06.760And they're going to talk about some of the things you raised, Ben.
00:26:11.640Now that the Democrats are going to go after them, they've tried to leak information.
00:26:14.040They've had to pull back on some of the information they gave to the press.
00:26:16.780Some of these presses had to correct their stories because Democrats gave them false.
00:26:21.660But we think these whistleblowers have been retaliated against because they were willing to come forward.
00:26:26.160Many of them lost their security clearance, which, as you know, is the first thing they do to you if they retaliate, they take your security clearance.
00:26:33.780We think, but we think they're going to be good witnesses when we have them come in next week.
00:26:37.300Well, and let's do a deeper dive on that topic in part two, which will be coming out on Friday.
00:26:43.220Okay. Explain to me what you're focused on versus what Chairman Comer is focused on and how you two are working together because you're both driving different aspects of this investigation.
00:26:53.680Yeah, he is focused on the Biden family business operation, the suspicious activity reports.
00:27:02.160That is totally Chairman Comer and the Oversight Committee.
00:27:04.980What we're doing in the Judiciary Committee is looking at this attack on the First Amendment, the Twitter files, the censorship industrial complex that Mr. Taibbi, Mr. Schellenberger, and then a host of other agencies that we think have been turned on the American people.
00:27:37.560Two of them, Matt Taibbi and Michael Schellenberger, just happened to be testifying the day after we learned that that's what was going on at Twitter.
00:27:43.800And Taibbi gets raided by the IRS the day of his testimony.
00:27:48.080The day they're testifying in the committee, Democrats are asking them, who are your sources?
00:27:54.580Someone needs to give the Democrats a lesson on, a lecture on, you know, how the First Amendment works in this great country.
00:28:00.180While they're asking them those kind of questions, trying to get them to divulge their sources, as you point out, Senator, the IRS was knocking on Matt Taibbi's door in his home in New Jersey.
00:29:21.040As we wrap up part one, I do want to ask you one question.
00:29:24.880And it goes back to the big lie where I think all this started.
00:29:28.320Joe Biden has said over and over again, and Senator and I have talked about this a lot on Verdict.
00:29:32.380He says, I never talked to my son about any of his business dealings.
00:29:36.740And that was kind of the principle of the campaign, into the presidency, into the White House.
00:29:41.500And it was, I don't have to talk about this because we never talked about it.
00:29:44.820Have you seen from your investigation anything that you could say, I can tell you that you had to talk to your son about this based on the evidence that we've seen?
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