Verdict with Ted Cruz - Hunter Biden PARDONED-just as we Predicted, plus Kash Patel as FBI Director

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00:00:05.280 Welcome.

00:00:06.080 It is Verdict with Senator Ted Cruz, Ben Ferguson with you.

00:00:09.840 Senator, back in January of this year,

00:00:13.500 there was a prediction that was made on this show.

00:00:18.900 And the prediction that was made on this show,

00:00:22.920 I just want to start by playing it.

00:00:25.400 You said this.

00:00:27.640 I'm going to make a prediction right now, Ben.

00:00:29.160 This is not one I like.

00:00:30.820 My prediction is, in December of 2024,

00:00:36.480 Joe Biden will pardon Hunter Biden.

00:00:40.260 Really?

00:00:41.280 That's my prediction.

00:00:42.420 It will be after the election.

00:00:45.020 Win or lose, you say he'll do it no matter what.

00:00:48.380 Win or lose.

00:00:49.600 If Biden were to win,

00:00:52.020 I think he'll delay the pardon until right before Hunter goes to jail.

00:00:55.400 But if Biden is losing,

00:00:57.620 I'd put the odds at 95% that in December of this year,

00:01:02.360 if Biden has just lost the general election,

00:01:04.440 that he pardons his son and he gives him a scot-free,

00:01:07.380 get-out-of-jail pass.

00:01:09.860 And so understand,

00:01:11.560 Hunter's legal strategy

00:01:13.000 is delay 11 months.

00:01:16.040 Delay 11 months,

00:01:16.860 don't go to jail for 11 months

00:01:18.300 and then daddy gives you

00:01:19.300 a get-out-of-jail-free card.

00:01:21.320 And it's why the house needs

00:01:23.060 to keep their eye on the ball.

00:01:24.660 That was January the 12th, Senator,

00:01:26.680 2024.

00:01:27.800 If you were listening to Verdict then,

00:01:29.360 this was 100% predicted

00:01:30.920 and it happened exactly how you said it would.

00:01:33.960 Well, to be fair,

00:01:34.780 it was 95% predicted then

00:01:36.500 and then last summer,

00:01:37.800 I raised it to 100%.

00:01:39.260 But if you listened to Verdict,

00:01:42.260 you knew this was going to happen.

00:01:43.540 It is 10.53 p.m. on December 1st.

00:01:46.420 We are recording this podcast right now.

00:01:49.080 On December 1st,

00:01:50.340 Joe Biden did exactly what we told you

00:01:52.380 he was going to do 11 months ago.

00:01:54.220 He pardoned his son, Hunter Biden.

00:01:56.500 Never mind about the corruption,

00:01:58.700 never mind about the gun offenses,

00:02:00.240 never mind about the drug offenses,

00:02:01.440 never mind about the tax offenses.

00:02:03.420 No man is above the law 0.98

00:02:05.040 unless your name is Joe Biden

00:02:06.860 and the entire Biden family.

00:02:08.340 We're going to break that down,

00:02:09.900 explain what just happened

00:02:11.160 with the Hunter Biden pardon today.

00:02:14.160 We're also going to talk about

00:02:15.360 Donald Trump's nomination of

00:02:16.640 Kash Patel as the director of the FBI.

00:02:18.560 The left is losing their mind.

00:02:19.960 The Democrats are freaking out.

00:02:21.280 The media is freaking out.

00:02:22.620 We're going to break down

00:02:23.640 why they're freaking out

00:02:24.700 and why this is a very good thing for America.

00:02:27.100 And finally, a terrific victory.

00:02:30.440 The Chinese communists have released

00:02:32.400 three Americans from unjust imprisonment,

00:02:35.520 including Mark Svedan.

00:02:36.520 Mark Svedan was a Texan.

00:02:38.340 Who was imprisoned in China for 12 years.

00:02:40.600 I've been leading the fight

00:02:41.620 to bring Mark home.

00:02:43.160 Mark is back in America.

00:02:44.620 Three Americans are back in America. 0.90

00:02:46.160 We're going to talk about that as well.

00:02:47.760 It's such an incredible story,

00:02:48.980 especially around Thanksgiving.

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00:02:53.320 I think, the way they should.

00:02:54.640 And that's why I love doing this show with you.

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00:04:42.280 So, all right,

00:04:43.020 let's start with the narrative

00:04:44.740 and work our way back.

00:04:47.000 When this news broke tonight,

00:04:48.740 we were all on text message

00:04:50.160 and this was,

00:04:51.600 the first part was

00:04:53.060 Joe Biden pardons his son.

00:04:54.400 Hunter,

00:04:54.720 I wasn't surprised by it.

00:04:56.320 You predicted it.

00:04:57.520 You weren't surprised by it.

00:04:59.000 What I was surprised

00:05:00.020 was the amount of time

00:05:01.020 of this,

00:05:01.660 that it covers.

00:05:03.080 He's basically off the hook

00:05:04.440 for everything

00:05:05.120 that involves

00:05:05.660 the Biden crime family.

00:05:07.300 And this is after

00:05:08.500 Joe Biden

00:05:09.180 repeatedly promised

00:05:10.800 that he would

00:05:11.760 not do this,

00:05:13.080 that he would,

00:05:13.960 it would honor

00:05:15.020 and respect

00:05:15.680 the justice system

00:05:16.800 and the juries

00:05:17.920 and whatever they decide

00:05:19.380 to do with his son.

00:05:20.260 And that was also

00:05:21.660 all a lie.

00:05:22.920 And I think the part

00:05:24.500 that was the most shocking

00:05:25.760 is how the media

00:05:26.980 is covering this now.

00:05:28.220 And I want to start

00:05:29.060 with that.

00:05:29.860 They're all saying

00:05:30.980 to the American people,

00:05:31.960 look,

00:05:32.440 he already lost his son,

00:05:33.900 one son who died

00:05:34.880 of brain cancer.

00:05:36.280 This is just a dad

00:05:37.680 being a dad.

00:05:39.300 I don't buy that

00:05:40.400 for a second.

00:05:41.200 I think this is him

00:05:42.160 protecting the crime family

00:05:44.740 and the bag man

00:05:46.040 and that protects him.

00:05:47.520 I don't think

00:05:48.160 this is compassion

00:05:49.020 from a father,

00:05:50.040 your reaction to that.

00:05:51.700 Well, listen,

00:05:52.140 what Joe Biden said today,

00:05:53.540 he put out a lengthy statement.

00:05:54.740 Let me read his statement

00:05:55.500 and then we're going

00:05:55.940 to talk about what it means.

00:05:57.060 Here's what Joe Biden said.

00:05:58.300 Quote,

00:05:58.960 Today I signed a pardon

00:06:00.120 for my son, Hunter.

00:06:01.200 From the day I took office,

00:06:02.240 I said I would not interfere

00:06:03.380 with the Justice Department's

00:06:04.500 decision making.

00:06:05.520 And I kept my word

00:06:06.640 even as I watched my son

00:06:08.060 being selectively

00:06:09.040 and unfairly prosecuted.

00:06:10.920 Without aggravating factors

00:06:12.260 like use in a crime,

00:06:13.340 multiple purchases,

00:06:14.260 or buying a weapon

00:06:14.960 as a straw purchaser,

00:06:16.980 people are almost

00:06:17.700 never brought to trial,

00:06:19.020 on felony charges

00:06:20.040 solely for how

00:06:20.720 they filled out a gun form.

00:06:22.500 Those who were late

00:06:23.200 paying their taxes

00:06:23.960 because of serious addictions,

00:06:25.580 but paid them back subsequently

00:06:26.840 with interest and penalties,

00:06:28.440 are typically given

00:06:29.480 non-criminal resolutions.

00:06:31.300 It is clear that Hunter

00:06:32.300 was treated differently.

00:06:33.880 The charges in his case

00:06:34.940 came about only after

00:06:36.140 several of my political

00:06:37.020 opponents in Congress

00:06:38.000 instigated them

00:06:39.700 to attack me

00:06:40.380 and oppose my election.

00:06:41.820 Then a carefully

00:06:42.720 negotiated plea deal,

00:06:44.200 agreed to by

00:06:44.920 the Department of Justice,

00:06:46.080 unraveled in the courtroom.

00:06:47.420 With a number of my

00:06:48.860 political opponents

00:06:49.600 in Congress

00:06:50.160 taking credit

00:06:50.820 for bringing political

00:06:51.720 pressure on the process.

00:06:53.480 Had the plea deal held,

00:06:54.700 it would have been

00:06:55.160 a fair, reasonable

00:06:56.060 resolution of Hunter's cases.

00:06:58.140 No reasonable person

00:06:59.480 who looks at the facts

00:07:00.300 of Hunter's cases

00:07:01.060 can reach any other conclusion

00:07:02.580 than Hunter was singled out

00:07:05.140 only because he is my son

00:07:07.220 and that is wrong.

00:07:08.860 There has been an effort

00:07:09.860 to break Hunter,

00:07:11.080 who has been

00:07:11.680 five and a half years sober,

00:07:13.460 even in the face

00:07:14.380 of unrelenting attacks

00:07:15.780 and selected prosecution.

00:07:17.760 In trying to break Hunter,

00:07:19.280 they've tried to break me.

00:07:20.860 There's no reason

00:07:21.740 to believe it will stop here.

00:07:22.980 Enough is enough.

00:07:24.420 For my entire career,

00:07:25.600 I've followed a simple principle.

00:07:27.400 Just tell the American people

00:07:28.680 the truth.

00:07:29.600 They'll be fair-minded.

00:07:31.160 Here's the truth.

00:07:32.600 I believe in the justice system,

00:07:34.640 but as I've wrestled with this,

00:07:36.000 I also believe raw politics

00:07:37.520 has infected this process

00:07:39.260 and it has led

00:07:40.100 to a miscarriage of justice.

00:07:41.560 And once I made this decision

00:07:43.660 this weekend,

00:07:44.460 there was no sense

00:07:45.720 in delaying it further.

00:07:47.320 I hope Americans will understand

00:07:48.700 why a father and a president

00:07:50.460 would come to this decision.

00:07:52.160 Well, let me start with his ending.

00:07:53.260 I understand why.

00:07:54.420 I said in January,

00:07:56.380 Joe Biden would pardon Hunter Biden

00:07:58.340 and understand that

00:08:00.280 to anyone who listens

00:08:01.420 to this podcast,

00:08:02.100 it's not a surprise.

00:08:03.260 It is obvious.

00:08:04.520 Hunter Biden is not 0.87

00:08:05.740 some lonely crackhead 0.94

00:08:07.600 who just sort of went astray.

00:08:09.880 That's what Joe Biden

00:08:11.540 and the entire White House

00:08:12.420 has tried to paint him as.

00:08:14.220 Hunter Biden's business

00:08:15.780 was selling access to daddy. 0.92

00:08:18.720 The real crook here 0.97

00:08:19.920 is Joe Biden. 0.97

00:08:20.840 And this is something

00:08:21.640 that in this podcast

00:08:22.800 we've broken down

00:08:23.780 in elaborate detail.

00:08:27.640 The evidence of criminality

00:08:29.100 that Joe Biden

00:08:29.840 and the Biden family,

00:08:30.700 they made tens of millions

00:08:32.740 of dollars selling favors

00:08:35.080 from Joe Biden.

00:08:37.140 Listen, nobody pays

00:08:39.420 Hunter Biden.

00:08:39.940 Nobody pays a crackhead money

00:08:41.200 when he has no marketable services.

00:08:44.080 He was not selling anything

00:08:45.760 other than daddy.

00:08:47.840 So when Joe Biden is saying,

00:08:49.360 oh, it is terrible,

00:08:50.400 no one's prosecuted for this.

00:08:51.820 Number one,

00:08:52.700 I'll tell you this.

00:08:53.580 If you use crack cocaine 0.99

00:08:55.160 with prostitutes, 0.98

00:08:56.220 illegally buying guns 0.97

00:08:57.160 with guns,

00:08:57.800 you will be prosecuted

00:08:58.940 and you will go to jail.

00:09:00.200 You don't.

00:09:01.360 People not named Biden

00:09:03.000 don't get away with that.

00:09:04.440 By the way,

00:09:04.880 if you also defraud

00:09:06.640 the federal government

00:09:07.360 out of millions of dollars

00:09:08.420 of taxes,

00:09:09.060 you will be prosecuted.

00:09:10.200 That is true as well.

00:09:11.540 But the real corruption,

00:09:13.040 listen,

00:09:13.280 the Biden Justice Department

00:09:14.460 declined to prosecute,

00:09:16.840 deliberately allowed

00:09:17.820 the statute of limitations

00:09:18.660 to expire

00:09:19.520 on many of the most

00:09:20.920 egregious examples

00:09:22.240 of corruption.

00:09:22.980 Everything that implicated

00:09:24.440 the big guy.

00:09:26.120 Understand,

00:09:26.780 this is all about Joe Biden.

00:09:28.580 It's not about Hunter Biden.

00:09:29.760 So when Joe Biden

00:09:30.560 entered this pardon,

00:09:31.780 it is about protecting 0.83

00:09:33.020 his own rear end.

00:09:34.340 Does he love his son? 0.94

00:09:35.260 Sure.

00:09:35.440 Does he want to protect

00:09:36.260 his son?

00:09:37.160 Sure.

00:09:37.420 It's why I was certain

00:09:38.360 he would grant this pardon.

00:09:39.840 But if you really love

00:09:41.320 your son,

00:09:41.880 you don't send out 0.95

00:09:42.960 your son who is an addict 0.82

00:09:44.360 to be the front man, 0.99

00:09:45.840 to be the bag man

00:09:46.800 in collecting millions

00:09:48.280 of dollars selling

00:09:49.260 access to you.

00:09:50.980 Joe Biden was perfectly

00:09:52.060 willing to use his son

00:09:53.860 as the point person

00:09:54.760 and plan to blame it

00:09:55.880 on the addiction.

00:09:57.580 And so I've got to say,

00:09:59.440 Joe Biden's claiming,

00:10:00.660 well, gosh,

00:10:01.180 it's just unfair

00:10:02.320 he was targeted.

00:10:03.220 What is unfair,

00:10:05.300 what is not right,

00:10:06.460 is that the Biden family

00:10:07.840 made for decades

00:10:09.380 a practice of selling

00:10:11.600 favors from Joe Biden.

00:10:13.580 That is fundamentally corrupt. 0.57

00:10:15.660 And let me say finally,

00:10:17.020 in Joe Biden's statement,

00:10:18.380 he talks about,

00:10:19.680 well, there was a plea deal

00:10:20.760 from the Department of Justice

00:10:21.920 and then it collapsed.

00:10:23.140 Well, you know what?

00:10:23.760 This podcast played

00:10:24.920 a significant role

00:10:26.780 in causing that plea deal

00:10:28.960 to collapse.

00:10:30.080 No doubt.

00:10:31.060 To collapse.

00:10:31.940 And why?

00:10:33.000 Because we shined

00:10:34.020 a light on it

00:10:34.640 because it was indefensible.

00:10:36.360 The plea deal was

00:10:37.680 zero jail time,

00:10:39.240 a slap on the wrist,

00:10:40.160 which Joe Biden said,

00:10:40.840 well, gosh,

00:10:41.180 that would be fair.

00:10:42.240 Don't punish my son.

00:10:43.480 And understand,

00:10:44.180 this is not about Hunter.

00:10:45.840 This is about Joe.

00:10:48.940 Let's talk about

00:10:49.920 the length of this pardon

00:10:51.140 because I think

00:10:52.080 it's not just the pardon

00:10:53.440 for these two charges.

00:10:54.660 It's also, hey,

00:10:56.260 this covers virtually

00:10:57.520 all of the corruption

00:10:58.720 and all of the sins

00:11:00.400 of the Biden crime family

00:11:02.280 when they knew

00:11:03.300 they had millions

00:11:04.260 of dollars coming

00:11:05.100 into their son's bank account

00:11:06.840 that was spending it

00:11:07.860 on drugs

00:11:08.840 and everything else

00:11:10.740 that we know about

00:11:11.260 from his laptop.

00:11:12.780 He said, hey,

00:11:14.000 you can't go after

00:11:15.140 my son basically

00:11:15.940 for anything.

00:11:17.780 This is a pardon

00:11:18.740 for all the bad things

00:11:20.260 we've done.

00:11:21.480 Well, and listen,

00:11:22.480 if you're going to do it,

00:11:23.240 you're going to make it

00:11:23.740 as broad as possible

00:11:24.680 because you don't care

00:11:25.680 about the press blowback.

00:11:27.160 And at the end of the day,

00:11:28.080 Joe Biden's lost.

00:11:29.040 Kamala Harris is lost.

00:11:30.020 They don't care about

00:11:30.580 the political consequences.

00:11:31.800 That's why it was

00:11:32.280 going to be December.

00:11:33.340 It wasn't going to be November.

00:11:34.720 It wasn't going to be January.

00:11:35.800 December was going to be

00:11:36.560 the month it was.

00:11:37.680 And I want you to understand

00:11:38.960 for more than a year,

00:11:41.140 Joe Biden and every Democrat

00:11:42.420 has been lying

00:11:43.220 to the American people

00:11:44.180 repeatedly and brazenly.

00:11:45.940 I want you to listen

00:11:46.700 to Corrine Jean-Pierre

00:11:47.780 in December 2023.

00:11:49.520 Here's what she had to say.

00:11:50.740 The president would not

00:11:51.900 pardon or commute

00:11:53.520 the census for his son, Hunter.

00:11:55.440 I just want to make sure

00:11:56.160 that that is not going

00:11:57.000 to change over the next

00:11:57.820 six months.

00:11:58.260 The president's saying

00:11:59.560 it's still a no.

00:12:01.260 It's still a no.

00:12:01.860 It will always be a no.

00:12:03.040 It's still a no.

00:12:03.940 It will be a no.

00:12:05.080 It is a no.

00:12:06.220 And I don't have

00:12:06.880 anything else to add.

00:12:08.020 Will he pardon his son?

00:12:09.140 No.

00:12:10.640 Will he pardon his son?

00:12:11.660 No.

00:12:11.980 And she's actually

00:12:13.100 banging her hand 0.89

00:12:14.060 on the podium.

00:12:14.800 You can hear it.

00:12:16.140 OK, so let's play now

00:12:17.220 Corrine Jean-Pierre

00:12:17.960 in August of 2023.

00:12:20.940 Let me go back

00:12:21.540 to the first question

00:12:22.240 of the briefing.

00:12:22.720 I know you said

00:12:23.300 not a lot's changed

00:12:24.140 since yesterday

00:12:24.700 and that it's a personal matter.

00:12:25.820 But from a presidential

00:12:27.200 perspective,

00:12:27.740 is there any possibility

00:12:29.300 that the president

00:12:30.200 would end up

00:12:30.900 pardoning his son?

00:12:32.240 No.

00:12:33.300 OK, now let's do

00:12:34.840 Joe Biden himself

00:12:36.180 in June of 2024.

00:12:38.260 I'm extremely proud

00:12:39.640 of my son, Hunter.

00:12:40.860 He has overcome

00:12:41.820 an addiction.

00:12:42.700 He is.

00:12:43.300 He's one of the

00:12:44.340 brightest,

00:12:45.460 most decent men

00:12:46.220 I know.

00:12:47.040 And I am satisfied

00:12:48.760 that I'm not going

00:12:50.600 to do anything.

00:12:51.420 I said I abide

00:12:52.660 by the jury decision.

00:12:53.660 And I will do that

00:12:54.880 and I will not

00:12:55.740 pardon him.

00:12:57.000 OK, let's play

00:12:57.900 another interview again

00:12:59.040 from June of 2024.

00:13:00.620 Joe Biden again

00:13:01.320 on the same topic.

00:13:02.420 As we sit here

00:13:03.060 in Normandy,

00:13:04.020 your son Hunter

00:13:05.060 is on trial.

00:13:06.060 And I know

00:13:06.820 that you cannot speak

00:13:08.360 about an ongoing

00:13:09.140 federal prosecution.

00:13:11.580 But let me ask you,

00:13:12.960 will you accept

00:13:13.960 the jury's outcome,

00:13:15.480 their verdict,

00:13:16.020 no matter what it is?

00:13:17.340 Yes.

00:13:18.240 And have you ruled

00:13:19.120 out a pardon

00:13:19.660 for your son?

00:13:20.700 Yes.

00:13:21.740 I mean, 1.00

00:13:22.120 the guy's a pathological liar 1.00

00:13:24.240 everywhere he goes. 1.00

00:13:25.520 Final clip.

00:13:26.140 Let's let's play

00:13:26.720 Kareem Jean-Pierre

00:13:27.640 once again

00:13:28.460 on the same topic.

00:13:29.640 The president

00:13:30.260 would not pardon

00:13:31.520 or commute

00:13:32.360 for his son Hunter.

00:13:34.340 I just want to make sure

00:13:35.020 that that is not

00:13:35.700 going to change

00:13:36.160 over the next six months.

00:13:37.120 The president's

00:13:37.700 saying it would not.

00:13:38.740 It's still a no.

00:13:40.100 It's still a no.

00:13:40.700 It will always be a no.

00:13:41.800 It's still a no.

00:13:42.780 It will be a no.

00:13:43.900 It is a no.

00:13:45.060 And I don't have

00:13:45.720 anything else to add.

00:13:46.840 Will he pardon his son?

00:13:48.000 No.

00:13:48.980 Pretty consistent

00:13:49.960 with their lies.

00:13:51.440 Look,

00:13:51.800 understand

00:13:52.380 every person

00:13:54.080 listening

00:13:54.700 to Joe Biden,

00:13:56.220 every person

00:13:56.740 listening to

00:13:57.300 Kareem Jean-Pierre

00:13:58.100 knew that they were lying.

00:13:59.780 The reporter

00:14:00.200 asking that question

00:14:01.240 knew that they were lying.

00:14:03.320 Kareem Jean-Pierre,

00:14:04.320 she knew she was lying.

00:14:05.380 And Joe Biden,

00:14:06.220 every time he said it,

00:14:07.500 knew he was lying.

00:14:08.840 We said on this podcast

00:14:10.120 then,

00:14:11.040 they are lying.

00:14:13.100 And it was a cynical effort

00:14:14.720 to gaslight

00:14:15.400 the American people.

00:14:16.360 They hoped

00:14:16.840 at the time

00:14:17.800 they hoped Joe Biden

00:14:18.640 would win.

00:14:19.160 Later they hoped

00:14:19.720 Kamala Harris would win.

00:14:21.220 But their approach

00:14:23.040 was simple.

00:14:23.600 We're going to lie to you.

00:14:24.340 We're going to lie to you.

00:14:25.020 We're going to lie to you.

00:14:25.800 Don't you like

00:14:26.340 our happy lies?

00:14:27.700 And the plan

00:14:28.540 was always,

00:14:29.560 always,

00:14:30.040 always to issue

00:14:31.500 the pardon

00:14:32.100 because it covers up

00:14:34.160 for the criminality

00:14:35.160 that Joe Biden

00:14:36.100 is right at the nexus of.

00:14:37.160 So let's talk about

00:14:39.040 this future

00:14:40.980 and the Republicans

00:14:42.020 and what they should do.

00:14:43.420 There was a lot of people

00:14:44.480 asking the question,

00:14:45.500 okay,

00:14:46.420 is there anything

00:14:47.140 that you can do about this

00:14:48.520 or is this just the world

00:14:49.400 we live in now

00:14:50.240 where if you're the president 1.00

00:14:51.300 you can be as corrupt as hell 0.99

00:14:52.680 if you're a Democrat 1.00

00:14:53.380 and you've got people

00:14:54.120 to cover for you.

00:14:55.280 Then there's people

00:14:55.940 saying,

00:14:56.320 well,

00:14:56.400 hold on,

00:14:56.780 what about the other crimes

00:14:57.860 that involved

00:14:58.360 the other family members?

00:14:59.860 We know a lot of payments

00:15:01.000 went to a lot of people

00:15:01.960 with the last name Biden

00:15:02.880 when they were selling

00:15:03.580 access to U.S.

00:15:04.380 government.

00:15:05.420 Is this the,

00:15:06.620 end of this politically?

00:15:07.880 Move on

00:15:08.460 and that's just what it is

00:15:09.660 and we all know 0.97

00:15:10.380 that he's corrupt 0.96

00:15:11.120 and we know he lied to us 0.98

00:15:12.560 and we know he abused his power

00:15:13.840 and we know he sold access

00:15:15.020 to the United States government.

00:15:16.560 Well,

00:15:17.160 here is the text

00:15:18.380 of the pardon

00:15:18.980 that Joe Biden signed.

00:15:20.660 It is a pardon quote

00:15:21.940 for those offenses

00:15:23.520 against the United States

00:15:25.640 which he has committed

00:15:27.580 or may have committed

00:15:29.360 or taken part in

00:15:31.420 during the period

00:15:33.340 from January 1st, 2014

00:15:35.760 through December 1st, 2024

00:15:39.340 including but not limited

00:15:42.240 to all offenses

00:15:43.620 charged or prosecuted

00:15:45.120 including any that have resulted

00:15:47.400 in convictions

00:15:48.140 by Special Counsel David C. Weiss

00:15:50.560 in docket number 123CR00061-MN

00:15:56.420 in the United States District Court

00:15:58.080 for the District of Delaware

00:15:59.060 and docket number 223CR00599-MCS1

00:16:04.520 in the United States District Court

00:16:06.320 for the Central District of California.

00:16:08.300 So Ben,

00:16:08.740 how do you like that?

00:16:10.020 Every single federal offense

00:16:11.840 that you have committed

00:16:13.460 or you may have committed

00:16:15.040 or taken a part in

00:16:16.800 for a decade

00:16:18.220 from January 1st, 2014

00:16:20.460 to December 1st, 2024,

00:16:22.440 they're all erased clean.

00:16:24.600 I don't know that you could write

00:16:26.360 a broader pardon

00:16:28.220 other than,

00:16:29.800 listen, I'm president

00:16:30.640 and I gotta say,

00:16:31.980 by the way,

00:16:32.340 your question is there

00:16:33.080 anything you can do about it?

00:16:34.660 There is very, very little.

00:16:36.420 The pardon power

00:16:37.300 under the Constitution

00:16:38.180 is exceptionally broad.

00:16:40.020 The president has the ability

00:16:41.520 to pardon

00:16:42.680 any single federal offense.

00:16:44.660 In this case,

00:16:45.240 he's pardoning

00:16:45.880 every single federal offense

00:16:47.280 Hunter Biden may or may not

00:16:48.940 have committed

00:16:49.380 for over a decade.

00:16:50.840 And those federal offenses,

00:16:53.720 it is now impossible

00:16:55.000 to prosecute him,

00:16:56.140 impossible to hold him

00:16:57.260 liable for them.

00:16:58.680 Now, he's still liable

00:16:59.540 for state offenses,

00:17:00.860 but there has not been,

00:17:02.700 there have not been

00:17:04.100 any state prosecutions.

00:17:05.640 And so this is the consequence.

00:17:07.240 This was always the outcome.

00:17:09.240 It's why, look,

00:17:11.300 we've talked about

00:17:13.380 how the impeachment power,

00:17:14.840 the text of the Constitution

00:17:15.960 provides the impeachment power

00:17:17.480 for treason, bribery,

00:17:19.200 or other high crimes

00:17:20.240 or misdemeanors.

00:17:21.040 At the end of the day,

00:17:22.400 much of the conduct

00:17:23.240 that has been alleged here

00:17:24.580 is in the nature of bribery,

00:17:26.400 is in the nature of

00:17:27.340 paying off millions of dollars

00:17:28.780 to Joe Biden

00:17:29.520 for official favors.

00:17:32.260 And yet,

00:17:32.800 the Department of Justice

00:17:33.700 had zero interest

00:17:34.540 in examining it.

00:17:35.800 The Democrats in Congress

00:17:36.920 had zero interest

00:17:37.680 in examining it.

00:17:38.560 And the media

00:17:38.980 had zero interest

00:17:39.800 in examining it.

00:17:41.220 And so, as a consequence,

00:17:42.580 Hunter Biden

00:17:43.060 is now going to get off scot-free,

00:17:45.020 which was abundantly clear

00:17:46.820 from the outset

00:17:47.780 this was always the plan.

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00:18:21.340 Final question.

00:18:22.780 Yes, Hunter Biden

00:18:23.720 is pardoned

00:18:25.640 for everything

00:18:26.540 in this,

00:18:28.220 as you said,

00:18:28.920 a sweeping pardon

00:18:30.000 that I've never seen before

00:18:31.520 at this level.

00:18:33.420 And in government,

00:18:34.400 from what we've seen

00:18:35.400 in the history

00:18:36.240 of my lifetime,

00:18:36.880 we've never seen

00:18:37.720 something this broad.

00:18:39.220 So,

00:18:39.520 the last question

00:18:41.300 I have is,

00:18:42.840 what about Joe Biden?

00:18:45.060 Is there anything

00:18:46.160 that can be done

00:18:46.920 against him?

00:18:47.600 Or is it just,

00:18:48.260 hey,

00:18:48.580 he's an old guy,

00:18:49.660 he dropped out

00:18:50.620 of the race.

00:18:51.400 As they said,

00:18:52.380 we would have prosecuted him

00:18:53.960 for keeping classified documents,

00:18:55.440 but no jury

00:18:56.420 would ever convict him

00:18:57.340 because he was too senile

00:18:59.020 to basically know

00:19:00.600 what he had done

00:19:01.360 in the past.

00:19:02.420 Is all of that

00:19:03.480 just going to be forgotten

00:19:04.500 now because of age?

00:19:06.980 Well,

00:19:07.440 let me be clear.

00:19:08.300 We have seen

00:19:09.060 pardons this broad

00:19:10.180 before.

00:19:10.640 And so,

00:19:11.340 if you look,

00:19:11.960 for example,

00:19:12.740 at the pardon

00:19:13.360 Gerald Ford issued

00:19:14.960 for Richard Nixon,

00:19:15.940 here is the operative

00:19:16.960 text of that pardon.

00:19:18.840 Now,

00:19:19.260 therefore,

00:19:19.780 I,

00:19:20.100 Gerald R. Ford,

00:19:21.140 President of the United States,

00:19:22.480 pursuant to the pardon power

00:19:23.660 conferred upon me

00:19:24.420 by Article 2,

00:19:25.700 Section 2 of the Constitution,

00:19:27.740 have granted

00:19:28.360 and by these presents

00:19:30.180 do grant

00:19:30.900 a full,

00:19:32.260 free,

00:19:32.820 and absolute pardon

00:19:33.880 unto Richard Nixon

00:19:34.880 for all offenses

00:19:36.600 against the United States

00:19:37.940 which he,

00:19:38.620 Richard Nixon,

00:19:39.240 has committed

00:19:39.760 or may have committed

00:19:41.400 or taken part in

00:19:42.780 during the period

00:19:44.300 from January 20th,

00:19:45.680 1969

00:19:46.400 through August 9th,

00:19:47.680 1974.

00:19:48.980 So,

00:19:49.980 they deliberately

00:19:51.200 borrowed the language

00:19:52.340 from the pardon

00:19:54.060 of Richard Nixon

00:19:54.800 and the idea was

00:19:55.860 this is a blanket

00:19:57.280 get-out-of-jail

00:19:58.040 freak card

00:19:58.660 and it's what

00:20:00.000 the Constitution

00:20:00.720 gives the President

00:20:01.700 this authority

00:20:02.400 and that's exactly

00:20:03.300 what they did.

00:20:04.200 Now,

00:20:04.400 your question was

00:20:05.360 what about Joe Biden?

00:20:06.700 So,

00:20:06.940 Joe Biden has not

00:20:07.740 pardoned himself.

00:20:08.560 I don't think he will.

00:20:09.980 And at the end

00:20:10.840 of the day

00:20:11.300 when the Trump

00:20:11.820 Department of Justice

00:20:12.620 comes into office

00:20:13.500 there will be a question

00:20:14.500 do they go

00:20:15.400 and prosecute

00:20:16.260 Joe Biden?

00:20:17.420 My guess is

00:20:18.120 the answer will be no.

00:20:19.400 That Joe Biden,

00:20:21.040 his dementia

00:20:22.140 has risen to a level

00:20:23.420 at this point

00:20:24.120 that I think

00:20:24.640 he's probably

00:20:25.100 going to ride off

00:20:25.780 into the sunset

00:20:26.380 and be done.

00:20:27.880 Maybe I'm wrong

00:20:28.740 but my suspicion

00:20:30.940 is Joe Biden

00:20:31.860 will not face

00:20:32.640 accountability

00:20:33.060 for the corruption

00:20:34.140 that Hunter

00:20:35.220 was the bag man for

00:20:36.420 and that his entire

00:20:37.200 family profited from.

00:20:40.040 Incredible.

00:20:40.660 And there's going to be

00:20:41.040 a lot of people

00:20:41.420 listening right now

00:20:42.000 they're going to be

00:20:42.420 angry about this.

00:20:43.740 I understand it.

00:20:44.540 I want to be clear.

00:20:45.240 I'm angry about it too

00:20:46.260 because it looks like

00:20:47.220 the entire family

00:20:48.600 his brother

00:20:49.220 and every other Biden

00:20:50.260 that was on the take

00:20:50.960 is going to get away

00:20:51.660 with this

00:20:52.200 in a sense

00:20:53.360 and look

00:20:53.920 this is the corruption

00:20:54.680 of the Democratic Party.

00:20:55.880 This is the reason

00:20:56.460 why I think

00:20:57.060 Donald Trump

00:20:57.600 one of the reasons

00:20:58.120 why he won this election

00:20:59.040 and why Republicans

00:20:59.820 control the House

00:21:00.700 and Senate

00:21:01.080 is people wanted

00:21:02.740 there to be

00:21:03.100 accountability

00:21:03.600 at least

00:21:04.280 on election day

00:21:05.700 that may be

00:21:06.380 the only silver lining.

00:21:07.060 Let me jump in

00:21:08.200 Ben

00:21:08.900 there may be

00:21:10.040 an exception

00:21:10.640 I don't think

00:21:11.140 it's impossible

00:21:11.940 that the Department

00:21:13.280 of Justice

00:21:13.780 prosecutes

00:21:14.600 Joe Biden's brother

00:21:15.580 Joe Biden's brother

00:21:16.980 I'm not aware

00:21:17.500 of any evidence

00:21:18.400 that he has dementia

00:21:19.760 that he is 0.68

00:21:20.820 serious mental 0.98

00:21:22.060 diminishment

00:21:22.620 and that may be

00:21:23.680 one avenue

00:21:24.220 I could see

00:21:24.800 the Department

00:21:25.260 of Justice

00:21:25.740 investigating

00:21:26.380 now one challenge

00:21:27.300 is

00:21:27.520 Oh hold on

00:21:28.120 I'm going to ask

00:21:29.100 now a prediction

00:21:29.800 you made a last

00:21:30.980 prediction

00:21:31.320 that was good

00:21:31.760 I want one

00:21:32.260 right now

00:21:32.820 I want you

00:21:34.040 to predict

00:21:34.500 whether or not

00:21:35.280 before the last

00:21:36.000 day January 20th

00:21:37.340 that Joe Biden

00:21:38.740 says screw it 0.87

00:21:39.620 I'm going to

00:21:40.040 hand out pardons

00:21:40.700 to my brother

00:21:41.160 or other family

00:21:41.840 members

00:21:42.300 I don't think

00:21:43.380 it's impossible

00:21:44.220 but I doubt it

00:21:46.080 I put it at

00:21:46.660 less than 50%

00:21:47.940 look I

00:21:49.580 and I think

00:21:51.180 if you were to

00:21:52.820 ask me to give

00:21:53.540 odds my guess

00:21:54.540 is that the

00:21:55.160 Trump Department

00:21:55.980 of Justice

00:21:56.420 probably doesn't

00:21:57.620 prosecute

00:21:58.180 Biden's brother

00:21:58.900 that there will

00:21:59.400 be a sense of

00:22:00.380 this is water

00:22:01.460 under the bridge

00:22:02.220 it's the prior

00:22:02.940 administration

00:22:03.520 it's not our

00:22:04.280 concern

00:22:04.600 let's move on

00:22:05.440 but I'm just

00:22:07.400 saying if you

00:22:08.080 were to predict

00:22:08.780 one avenue

00:22:09.860 and one challenge

00:22:11.160 is in terms

00:22:12.580 of whether you

00:22:13.120 could prosecute

00:22:13.880 Biden's brother

00:22:14.820 a major challenge

00:22:15.960 would be the

00:22:16.460 statute of

00:22:16.920 limitation

00:22:17.360 that many

00:22:17.980 of the most

00:22:18.480 corrupt actions

00:22:19.400 occurred long

00:22:20.920 enough

00:22:21.280 that the

00:22:22.220 statute of

00:22:22.720 limitations

00:22:23.180 has expired

00:22:24.260 and what that

00:22:24.920 means statute

00:22:25.560 of limitations

00:22:26.140 is in federal

00:22:27.420 law

00:22:27.640 it's also true

00:22:28.180 in state law

00:22:28.860 that there is

00:22:29.820 a limit

00:22:30.360 to how

00:22:31.680 recently

00:22:32.340 the conduct

00:22:33.060 must have

00:22:33.500 occurred

00:22:33.860 before you

00:22:34.320 could prosecute

00:22:34.980 it's the idea

00:22:35.660 that you can't

00:22:36.840 come back

00:22:37.420 and prosecute

00:22:38.540 you Ben

00:22:39.000 for something

00:22:39.440 you did 20

00:22:40.040 years ago

00:22:40.740 that you don't

00:22:41.540 remember that

00:22:42.120 the evidence

00:22:42.560 is stale

00:22:43.120 there's some

00:22:43.620 notion that

00:22:44.160 there needs

00:22:44.500 to be finality

00:22:45.240 in law

00:22:45.740 and that

00:22:46.000 prosecutions

00:22:46.680 need to

00:22:47.120 occur relatively

00:22:49.320 promptly after

00:22:50.260 the criminality

00:22:51.040 and so I

00:22:51.540 think much

00:22:53.260 of the conduct

00:22:54.060 that Joe's

00:22:55.380 brother has been

00:22:55.940 implicated in

00:22:56.760 the statute

00:22:57.720 of limitations

00:22:58.440 and all

00:22:58.880 likelihood has

00:22:59.520 expired

00:23:00.000 and so that

00:23:00.680 may prevent

00:23:01.420 a prosecution

00:23:02.280 if you were

00:23:03.220 going to ask

00:23:03.680 me is there

00:23:04.060 going to be

00:23:04.300 another pardon

00:23:04.820 for his

00:23:05.660 brother

00:23:05.880 probably not

00:23:06.920 but it's

00:23:07.680 not beyond

00:23:08.600 the realm

00:23:09.600 of contemplation

00:23:11.000 incredible

00:23:12.640 I want to

00:23:13.320 deal with

00:23:13.620 also you

00:23:14.180 talked about

00:23:14.640 the deep

00:23:14.940 state and I

00:23:15.320 want to

00:23:15.520 talk about

00:23:15.920 the FBI

00:23:16.480 as well

00:23:17.220 and Kash

00:23:17.820 Patel

00:23:18.480 and being

00:23:19.020 named FBI

00:23:20.020 director by

00:23:20.700 Donald Trump

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00:25:28.840 originally

00:25:29.300 thought we

00:25:29.880 were going

00:25:30.080 to start

00:25:30.360 this show

00:25:30.900 tonight

00:25:31.340 senator

00:25:31.660 talking about

00:25:32.460 the FBI

00:25:33.040 and

00:25:33.840 Kash Patel

00:25:34.540 being named

00:25:35.060 the FBI

00:25:35.600 director

00:25:36.440 this is a

00:25:38.160 name that

00:25:38.560 Democrats

00:25:38.960 do not

00:25:39.560 like

00:25:39.920 Kash Patel

00:25:40.620 so people

00:25:41.020 understand

00:25:41.400 history

00:25:41.900 this is a

00:25:42.680 guy that

00:25:43.000 actually

00:25:43.520 the deep

00:25:45.240 state went

00:25:45.800 after when

00:25:46.560 he was working

00:25:47.340 for Donald

00:25:47.940 Trump the

00:25:48.320 first time

00:25:48.980 with Russia

00:25:50.220 Russia

00:25:50.560 Russia

00:25:50.960 and he

00:25:51.660 found out

00:25:52.340 about it

00:25:52.900 that when

00:25:54.460 apparently

00:25:55.600 Google

00:25:56.220 five years

00:25:57.000 after the

00:25:57.480 fact

00:25:57.780 sent him

00:25:58.560 a letter

00:25:58.900 saying hey

00:25:59.580 we had to

00:26:00.060 disclose to

00:26:00.660 you now

00:26:01.080 that we

00:26:01.840 gave a

00:26:02.420 bunch of

00:26:02.720 your information

00:26:03.380 over to

00:26:03.960 the FBI

00:26:04.600 that's

00:26:05.640 the now

00:26:06.000 the guy

00:26:06.380 that will

00:26:06.680 be running

00:26:07.360 the FBI

00:26:08.380 if he gets

00:26:09.060 confirmed

00:26:09.640 your reaction

00:26:10.880 well I think

00:26:12.400 this is a

00:26:13.000 strong

00:26:13.460 nomination I

00:26:14.300 think we're

00:26:14.680 seeing

00:26:15.260 Democrats

00:26:16.320 and we're

00:26:16.800 seeing the

00:26:17.200 media

00:26:17.420 freaking

00:26:17.800 out

00:26:18.100 and they're

00:26:18.380 freaking

00:26:18.660 out

00:26:19.080 not because

00:26:20.240 they think

00:26:20.660 Kash Patel

00:26:21.200 is unqualified

00:26:21.920 but rather

00:26:22.540 because they

00:26:23.200 believe he

00:26:24.460 will actually

00:26:25.060 do what

00:26:25.600 Trump promised

00:26:26.200 he would

00:26:26.480 do they

00:26:26.800 believe he

00:26:27.360 will actually

00:26:27.980 clean out

00:26:28.740 the corruption

00:26:30.480 at the FBI

00:26:31.260 that he will

00:26:31.800 take on

00:26:32.640 the partisans

00:26:34.180 that have

00:26:34.900 burrowed into

00:26:35.640 senior career

00:26:36.500 positions

00:26:37.040 this is something

00:26:38.000 we've been

00:26:38.360 calling for on

00:26:39.000 this podcast

00:26:39.780 for a long

00:26:40.540 time to have

00:26:41.180 leadership that

00:26:42.260 is willing to

00:26:42.860 really root out

00:26:43.600 the partisanship

00:26:44.500 and corruption

00:26:45.000 and say no

00:26:45.640 more

00:26:46.320 the FBI

00:26:46.900 needs to

00:26:47.520 restore its

00:26:48.300 integrity

00:26:48.780 I think this

00:26:49.420 is a nomination

00:26:51.320 the reason

00:26:52.540 people are

00:26:53.080 losing their

00:26:53.580 minds is

00:26:54.120 because they

00:26:54.820 believe

00:26:55.400 Kash Patel

00:26:56.280 is going to

00:26:56.800 do exactly

00:26:57.480 what Trump

00:26:57.880 said he

00:26:58.120 would do

00:26:58.800 and Senator

00:27:00.460 you actually

00:27:00.980 talked about

00:27:01.640 this on

00:27:02.320 Sunday morning

00:27:02.960 on Face the

00:27:03.540 Nation on

00:27:03.980 CBS and it

00:27:04.940 was very

00:27:05.320 interesting to

00:27:05.760 see the

00:27:06.040 back and

00:27:06.420 forth take a

00:27:07.160 listen to

00:27:07.540 that for

00:27:07.980 people that

00:27:08.320 may have

00:27:08.540 missed it

00:27:09.100 Kash Patel

00:27:10.200 suggested by

00:27:11.400 Trump as

00:27:12.260 the new

00:27:12.520 leader of

00:27:12.880 the FBI

00:27:13.340 how enthusiastic

00:27:15.020 are you about

00:27:15.960 that

00:27:16.320 listen I think

00:27:18.900 Kash Patel is a

00:27:19.900 very strong

00:27:20.800 nominee I think

00:27:21.660 the entire slate

00:27:22.580 of cabinet

00:27:23.080 nominees

00:27:23.600 President Trump

00:27:24.700 has put forward

00:27:25.480 is very strong

00:27:26.540 I believe every

00:27:27.560 one of these

00:27:28.020 cabinet nominees

00:27:28.800 is going to be

00:27:30.040 confirmed by the

00:27:30.960 Senate I think

00:27:31.480 Kash Patel is

00:27:32.760 going to be

00:27:33.360 confirmed by the

00:27:34.220 Senate you look

00:27:34.840 at his background

00:27:35.460 he has a serious

00:27:36.740 professional background

00:27:37.900 he was a

00:27:38.780 prosecutor he

00:27:39.620 was a public

00:27:40.480 defender he was a

00:27:42.040 senior intelligence

00:27:43.400 staffer on

00:27:44.220 Capitol Hill he

00:27:45.140 was a senior

00:27:45.760 intelligence staffer

00:27:46.860 in the White

00:27:47.780 House he was the

00:27:48.500 chief of staff of

00:27:49.280 the Department of

00:27:49.860 Defense he was the

00:27:50.980 deputy director of

00:27:52.040 national intelligence

00:27:52.980 and I gotta say all

00:27:54.640 of the weeping and

00:27:55.560 gnashing of teeth all

00:27:56.580 of the people pulling

00:27:57.320 their hair out are

00:27:58.400 exactly the people who

00:27:59.820 are dismayed about

00:28:00.800 having a real reformer

00:28:02.120 come into the FBI

00:28:03.060 and clean out the

00:28:05.360 corrupted partisans

00:28:07.160 who sadly have

00:28:08.540 burrowed into senior

00:28:09.520 career positions at the

00:28:11.260 FBI the FBI the

00:28:12.600 Department of Justice

00:28:13.440 are two institutions

00:28:14.560 incredibly important

00:28:16.440 to the rule of law

00:28:17.420 in the United States

00:28:18.260 I revere both

00:28:19.500 and one of the most

00:28:20.800 tragic consequences

00:28:22.400 of four years of

00:28:23.460 Joe Biden Kamala

00:28:24.480 Harris is both DOJ

00:28:26.300 and the FBI have

00:28:27.340 been politicized

00:28:28.520 and weaponized

00:28:30.020 and I think

00:28:30.400 Kash Patel is a

00:28:31.320 very strong nominee

00:28:32.480 to take on the

00:28:33.900 partisan corruption

00:28:35.740 in the FBI

00:28:36.880 as you know

00:28:37.700 senator there isn't

00:28:38.480 a vacancy at the

00:28:39.320 top of the FBI

00:28:40.100 what should become

00:28:40.880 of Christopher Wray

00:28:41.680 appointed by

00:28:42.320 President Trump

00:28:43.000 well I think

00:28:45.500 he'll make a choice

00:28:46.260 I think either

00:28:47.120 he will resign

00:28:47.880 or President Trump

00:28:48.680 will fire him

00:28:49.380 but it's no secret

00:28:50.460 to anybody

00:28:51.120 including Chris Wray

00:28:52.220 that he is not

00:28:53.260 going to continue

00:28:53.780 to serve as the

00:28:54.480 head of the FBI

00:28:55.200 under Donald Trump

00:28:56.900 listen if you look

00:28:58.620 at James Comey

00:29:00.240 and Chris Wray

00:29:00.940 there has never

00:29:02.300 been a period

00:29:02.940 in our nation's

00:29:03.760 history where

00:29:04.240 the FBI has

00:29:05.140 suffered a greater

00:29:06.460 loss of respect

00:29:07.720 where more

00:29:08.420 Americans doubt

00:29:09.440 the fundamental

00:29:10.560 integrity of the

00:29:11.720 FBI and it's

00:29:12.520 because James Comey

00:29:13.500 and Chris Wray

00:29:14.120 presided over

00:29:15.020 allowing the FBI

00:29:16.680 to become a

00:29:17.700 partisan cudgel

00:29:18.940 to be used to

00:29:20.300 target parents

00:29:21.240 at school board

00:29:21.980 meetings to be

00:29:22.640 used to target

00:29:23.420 people who chose

00:29:24.720 not to take the

00:29:25.540 COVID vaccine

00:29:26.280 to be used to

00:29:27.100 target President

00:29:27.840 Trump and to

00:29:28.740 target the political

00:29:29.600 opponents of Joe

00:29:30.540 Biden and the

00:29:31.060 White House

00:29:31.520 it is tragic

00:29:32.820 that is not what

00:29:33.780 the FBI is for

00:29:34.800 that is not what

00:29:35.540 the DOJ is for

00:29:36.600 and I got to say

00:29:37.680 Pam Bondi and

00:29:38.600 Kash Patel I think

00:29:39.640 together are a

00:29:40.860 very strong slate

00:29:41.980 of nominees to go

00:29:43.020 and restore

00:29:43.560 integrity to both

00:29:45.100 institutions

00:29:45.780 I don't think it

00:29:48.320 can be better said

00:29:49.040 than that and

00:29:49.500 that's why there's

00:29:50.700 so many that are

00:29:51.780 freaked out over

00:29:52.920 Patel because he's

00:29:53.800 going to go in

00:29:54.500 and do his job

00:29:55.620 the way it's

00:29:56.080 supposed to be

00:29:56.620 done and also

00:29:57.820 that means part

00:29:58.660 of this is

00:29:59.580 clearing house

00:30:00.240 of the political

00:30:01.580 partisans that are

00:30:02.440 in there that have

00:30:02.980 weaponized the

00:30:04.380 government

00:30:04.800 that's exactly

00:30:07.700 right and we've

00:30:08.520 seen you know I

00:30:09.880 wrote a book

00:30:10.860 called justice

00:30:12.020 corrupted how the

00:30:12.920 left is weaponized

00:30:13.880 the legal system

00:30:14.680 and in the book I

00:30:16.060 described how

00:30:17.060 starting with

00:30:18.020 Barack Obama

00:30:18.800 we saw the

00:30:20.380 Department of

00:30:20.940 Justice and the

00:30:21.620 FBI and the

00:30:22.420 CIA and the

00:30:23.220 alphabet soup of

00:30:24.060 the federal

00:30:24.360 government turned

00:30:25.700 into a weapon

00:30:26.560 to target and

00:30:27.560 persecute the

00:30:29.280 political enemies

00:30:30.440 of Barack Obama

00:30:31.420 when Trump

00:30:32.780 became president

00:30:33.600 those partisans

00:30:34.520 what they did

00:30:35.260 is they went

00:30:36.320 into senior

00:30:37.340 career positions

00:30:38.420 in the agencies

00:30:39.820 and from day

00:30:40.860 one from the

00:30:41.500 first day of

00:30:42.060 Trump's first

00:30:42.600 term they

00:30:44.000 waged war on

00:30:45.480 Donald Trump

00:30:46.100 from within the

00:30:47.080 deep state they

00:30:48.140 wanted to destroy

00:30:49.180 him they wanted

00:30:49.840 to stop his

00:30:50.620 agenda they

00:30:51.700 hated him and

00:30:53.440 then when Joe

00:30:54.100 Biden became

00:30:54.780 president they

00:30:55.700 came out in

00:30:56.440 the open they

00:30:57.020 were brazen

00:30:57.820 they were

00:30:58.720 completely

00:30:59.420 they were not

00:31:02.160 pretending anymore

00:31:03.060 and so listen

00:31:03.960 as I said I

00:31:05.000 think Kash

00:31:05.420 Patel will be

00:31:06.840 confirmed and

00:31:07.700 when he is I

00:31:08.940 think it is going

00:31:09.480 to be hugely

00:31:10.440 important that

00:31:12.160 that he follow

00:31:13.900 through on those

00:31:14.680 promises to get

00:31:15.780 rid of the

00:31:16.720 partisans and

00:31:17.580 listen a point I

00:31:18.380 made Major Garrett

00:31:19.300 was pressing back

00:31:20.240 saying wasn't this

00:31:20.980 terrible that Chris

00:31:21.840 Ray would be

00:31:22.320 fired listen in the

00:31:23.840 entire history of

00:31:24.920 the FBI we

00:31:26.700 have never seen

00:31:27.760 the respect for

00:31:28.840 the FBI

00:31:29.440 diminished as

00:31:31.540 greatly as it

00:31:32.380 has been under

00:31:33.100 Chris Ray and

00:31:33.780 under James

00:31:34.240 Comey before him 0.67

00:31:35.120 that the American

00:31:36.900 people no longer

00:31:38.300 trust the

00:31:39.280 integrity of the

00:31:40.160 FBI that is

00:31:42.180 listen with James

00:31:43.160 Comey I think

00:31:43.860 he's a hard

00:31:44.380 partisan I think

00:31:45.280 he was the point

00:31:46.020 of the spear

00:31:46.600 with Chris Ray

00:31:47.760 I think it's

00:31:48.260 different I

00:31:48.680 actually think

00:31:49.220 Chris Ray he's

00:31:49.940 not a Democrat

00:31:50.580 he's a Republican

00:31:51.380 he's not a

00:31:51.980 leftist but he

00:31:53.380 views his job

00:31:54.840 as protecting

00:31:56.360 the institution

00:31:57.220 and I think

00:31:57.760 he made a

00:31:58.260 fundamental mistake

00:31:59.220 that he believes

00:32:00.500 that protecting

00:32:01.380 the career senior

00:32:02.900 officials who

00:32:04.040 themselves are

00:32:05.000 vicious partisans

00:32:06.080 I think he

00:32:07.080 thinks that's

00:32:07.680 somehow protecting

00:32:08.480 the FBI where

00:32:09.340 the result is

00:32:10.280 that the public

00:32:12.220 respect of the

00:32:13.220 FBI has been

00:32:14.100 profoundly damaged

00:32:15.200 I think the

00:32:15.840 new director of

00:32:17.340 the FBI has a

00:32:18.300 very important

00:32:19.060 job to root

00:32:20.640 out those

00:32:21.160 partisans and

00:32:21.920 to bring it

00:32:22.480 back to a

00:32:24.240 fidelity to

00:32:25.300 law by the

00:32:25.840 way I

00:32:26.680 think the

00:32:27.260 other political

00:32:27.960 prosecutions

00:32:28.860 that have

00:32:29.180 been brought

00:32:29.700 are natural

00:32:31.360 candidates for

00:32:32.500 the pardon

00:32:33.140 power if you

00:32:33.840 look at Donald

00:32:34.380 Trump I think

00:32:34.900 Donald Trump

00:32:35.540 should pardon

00:32:36.720 those people

00:32:37.320 who've been

00:32:37.620 prosecuted for

00:32:38.420 January 6th who

00:32:39.820 did not engage

00:32:40.920 in crimes of

00:32:41.600 violence if you

00:32:42.180 engage in a

00:32:42.740 crime of violence

00:32:43.360 if you physically

00:32:44.220 and violently

00:32:45.300 assaulted a police

00:32:46.200 officer you

00:32:47.200 shouldn't be

00:32:47.820 pardoned you

00:32:48.400 should face

00:32:49.000 criminal

00:32:49.360 prosecution if

00:32:50.300 you committed

00:32:50.780 a crime of

00:32:52.060 violence against a

00:32:52.880 police officer but

00:32:53.740 if you were

00:32:54.200 engaged in a

00:32:54.860 peaceful protest

00:32:55.540 I think those

00:32:56.740 are natural

00:32:57.300 candidates for

00:32:58.040 pardons I

00:32:58.580 also think

00:32:59.260 Lauren Handy

00:33:00.380 who is the

00:33:01.440 pro-life

00:33:02.340 protester who's

00:33:03.780 right now serving

00:33:04.920 six years in

00:33:06.360 federal prison for

00:33:07.340 non-violent protest

00:33:08.800 against abortion

00:33:09.760 I think Lauren

00:33:10.860 Handy is a

00:33:11.600 natural candidate

00:33:12.620 for a pardon

00:33:13.500 from President

00:33:15.120 Trump I think

00:33:15.760 there's a very

00:33:16.700 substantial likelihood

00:33:17.700 she will receive

00:33:18.600 a pardon I

00:33:19.620 think the

00:33:20.020 non-violent

00:33:20.640 January 6th

00:33:21.540 protesters are

00:33:22.240 likely to receive

00:33:23.040 pardons and

00:33:24.060 and that is

00:33:24.660 going to cause

00:33:25.220 Democrats in

00:33:25.920 the media to

00:33:26.440 lose their

00:33:26.880 mind because

00:33:27.540 not only are

00:33:28.180 they happy to

00:33:28.760 look the other

00:33:29.300 way at the

00:33:30.440 weaponization of

00:33:31.280 the Department of

00:33:31.820 Justice and the

00:33:32.420 FBI they are

00:33:33.920 vested in

00:33:34.720 defending that

00:33:35.600 weaponization and

00:33:36.660 it is that is a

00:33:37.920 mandate understand

00:33:39.180 Donald Trump

00:33:40.520 campaign to the

00:33:41.740 American people

00:33:42.500 saying I will

00:33:43.640 root out this

00:33:44.420 corruption and I

00:33:45.900 think this

00:33:46.300 nomination and his

00:33:47.280 following through on

00:33:48.100 that promise is

00:33:49.400 fundamentally about

00:33:50.500 respecting democracy

00:33:51.760 the American people

00:33:52.680 said yes we

00:33:54.160 don't want the

00:33:54.880 federal government

00:33:55.640 weaponized against

00:33:57.460 the political

00:33:58.100 opposition of the

00:33:59.480 White House

00:33:59.960 yeah amen to that

00:34:01.160 and finally Senator

00:34:02.360 this is such an

00:34:03.340 important story and

00:34:05.540 I hope that

00:34:06.360 everybody listening

00:34:07.220 will actually take

00:34:08.080 this podcast today

00:34:09.220 share it on on

00:34:11.100 acts share it on

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00:34:14.520 wherever you are in

00:34:15.500 social media text it

00:34:16.540 to your friends because

00:34:17.980 the story that we're

00:34:18.760 about to talk about is

00:34:19.980 a story that really

00:34:20.860 the media is just

00:34:22.240 not covering it is

00:34:24.580 something that you've

00:34:25.400 also led on especially

00:34:27.660 being a member of the

00:34:29.020 Senate Foreign Relations

00:34:30.060 Committee there was

00:34:31.520 not one not two but

00:34:32.740 three Americans that

00:34:34.080 were detained for years

00:34:35.200 in China that have now

00:34:36.300 been released give a

00:34:38.120 quick recap of just how

00:34:39.640 long they've been

00:34:40.700 there but also why this

00:34:42.320 happened now well so

00:34:45.360 there were three

00:34:45.820 Americans who who

00:34:46.940 returned from China

00:34:48.140 they've been imprisoned

00:34:48.960 in China for for

00:34:50.360 years one of them is a

00:34:51.740 Texan one of them is

00:34:52.760 someone named Mark

00:34:54.360 Suedan the other two 0.82

00:34:56.120 are Kai Lai and John

00:34:57.800 Leong so Mark Suedan is 0.99

00:34:59.880 a Texan he's from

00:35:00.720 Houston his mother is

00:35:02.620 Catherine Suedan I've

00:35:03.920 spoken to Catherine

00:35:05.000 multiple times she is 0.80

00:35:07.000 from Luling Texas

00:35:08.160 Mark Suedan has been in

00:35:10.460 jail in China for 12

00:35:12.940 years and it was a

00:35:14.740 completely bogus charge

00:35:16.080 it was a trumped up

00:35:17.020 charge and the Chinese 0.99

00:35:19.920 government was

00:35:20.660 persecuting him as an

00:35:21.960 American I've spoken

00:35:22.880 out on on Mark

00:35:23.920 Suedan's behalf multiple

00:35:25.240 times I authored a

00:35:27.120 resolution that passed

00:35:28.200 the Senate unanimously

00:35:29.400 calling for Mark

00:35:30.560 Suedan's release I've

00:35:32.160 raised his case over

00:35:34.300 and over and over again

00:35:35.320 with the Biden

00:35:35.820 administration I'll give

00:35:36.780 them some credit they

00:35:38.100 leaned in in a

00:35:38.980 significant way and they

00:35:40.020 got him home he is back

00:35:41.300 in Texas today and this

00:35:44.460 is also something that

00:35:45.420 you talked about on

00:35:46.140 face the nation I want

00:35:47.080 people to hear part of

00:35:48.400 what you had to say

00:35:49.140 what can you tell us

00:35:50.720 about the three

00:35:51.300 Americans released by

00:35:52.420 China who were in San

00:35:53.600 Antonio have you been in

00:35:54.600 touch with them and do

00:35:55.840 you have any concerns

00:35:56.560 about the contours of

00:35:57.800 that swap well at this

00:36:00.300 stage we don't know all

00:36:01.360 of the details of the

00:36:02.240 contours of the swap but

00:36:03.440 I'll tell you I am

00:36:04.320 celebrating the return of

00:36:05.960 three Americans especially

00:36:07.300 Mark Suedan Mark Suedan

00:36:08.740 is a Texan from Houston

00:36:10.740 his mom Catherine is from

00:36:11.980 Luling Texas I've talked

00:36:13.220 with Catherine many times

00:36:15.260 I authored and passed a

00:36:16.820 resolution in the Senate

00:36:17.940 that passed unanimously

00:36:19.280 calling for Mark Suedan's

00:36:21.460 return to America he spent 0.62

00:36:23.080 12 years unjustly

00:36:25.320 imprisoned in communist

00:36:26.480 China I'll tell you I have 0.98

00:36:28.160 raised it directly with a

00:36:29.360 foreign minister of China

00:36:30.400 I've raised it with

00:36:31.100 President Biden I've raised

00:36:32.380 it with Secretary of State

00:36:34.540 Tony Blinken and I will

00:36:35.860 give them credit on this

00:36:37.120 Tony Blinken just two weeks

00:36:38.540 ago was the most recent

00:36:39.900 time I spoke with him about

00:36:41.140 Mark Suedan and the

00:36:42.580 administration has pressed

00:36:43.940 the Chinese government and

00:36:45.180 Mark Suedan is back home

00:36:46.840 with his mother who has

00:36:48.140 prayed for him who has

00:36:49.120 loved loved him I want to

00:36:50.540 say Mark welcome home

00:36:51.780 Catherine congratulations I

00:36:53.620 told you this day would

00:36:54.680 come this is a time where

00:36:56.140 all Texans and all Americans

00:36:57.420 should be celebrating

00:36:58.220 very quickly Senator Cruz

00:36:59.860 because I also know you

00:37:00.740 care about the case of

00:37:01.680 Austin Tice do you have any

00:37:03.360 sense that the rebel gains

00:37:04.820 in Syria of the recent

00:37:06.500 vintage will have any chance

00:37:08.600 of unlocking Austin Tice's

00:37:10.620 freedom I don't know I

00:37:13.300 certainly hope and pray

00:37:14.680 Austin Tice needs to come

00:37:16.240 home and and I hope and

00:37:17.960 pray listen there's a

00:37:18.760 combination of two things

00:37:20.000 working one as Joe Biden

00:37:22.100 is in the process of

00:37:23.320 transitioning out any any

00:37:24.800 outgoing president is

00:37:25.900 looking to try to get some

00:37:26.980 final wins I would

00:37:28.420 encourage him and I'm sure

00:37:29.620 he is doing everything he

00:37:30.860 can to bring Austin Tice

00:37:32.480 home to bring the hostages

00:37:33.940 in Gaza home both the 0.99

00:37:35.580 Israelis and the Americans 0.63

00:37:36.760 bring them home in this

00:37:38.160 window I also think

00:37:39.660 President Trump coming

00:37:40.800 into office on January

00:37:42.120 20th the enemies of

00:37:43.480 America I think are afraid 1.00

00:37:45.300 of President Trump that

00:37:46.400 is a moment I hope we have

00:37:48.420 a moment right now that is

00:37:49.700 very much like the end of

00:37:50.980 the Jimmy Carter

00:37:51.600 administration right before

00:37:53.480 Ronald Reagan came in and

00:37:54.740 we saw on January 20th our

00:37:56.900 hostages in Iran released I

00:37:59.080 think in significant part

00:38:00.320 because the Ayatollah was

00:38:02.240 afraid of Reagan I hope a

00:38:03.480 similar dynamic is playing

00:38:05.160 out and if we can see more

00:38:06.280 hostages come home that

00:38:07.840 would be cause for enormous

00:38:09.080 celebration enormous

00:38:10.940 celebration that is a hundred

00:38:13.520 percent accurate because for

00:38:14.820 these families as you

00:38:16.300 mentioned this is a day

00:38:17.980 they've been waiting now for

00:38:19.000 years no that's absolutely

00:38:21.500 right and and and so the

00:38:22.920 fact that we've got three

00:38:23.820 Americans back from China 1.00

00:38:24.960 that's great I hope we see

00:38:26.420 more hostages coming back

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Verdict with Ted Cruz - December 02, 2024

Hunter Biden PARDONED-just as we Predicted, plus Kash Patel as FBI Director

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