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Verdict with Ted Cruz
- December 02, 2024
Hunter Biden PARDONED-just as we Predicted, plus Kash Patel as FBI Director
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This is an iHeart Podcast.
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Guaranteed human.
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Welcome.
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It is Verdict with Senator Ted Cruz, Ben Ferguson with you.
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Senator, back in January of this year,
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there was a prediction that was made on this show.
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And the prediction that was made on this show,
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I just want to start by playing it.
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You said this.
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I'm going to make a prediction right now, Ben.
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This is not one I like.
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My prediction is, in December of 2024,
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Joe Biden will pardon Hunter Biden.
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Really?
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That's my prediction.
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It will be after the election.
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Win or lose, you say he'll do it no matter what.
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Win or lose.
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If Biden were to win,
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I think he'll delay the pardon until right before Hunter goes to jail.
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But if Biden is losing,
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I'd put the odds at 95% that in December of this year,
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if Biden has just lost the general election,
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that he pardons his son and he gives him a scot-free,
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get-out-of-jail pass.
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And so understand,
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Hunter's legal strategy
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is delay 11 months.
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Delay 11 months,
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don't go to jail for 11 months
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and then daddy gives you
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a get-out-of-jail-free card.
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And it's why the house needs
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to keep their eye on the ball.
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That was January the 12th, Senator,
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2024.
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If you were listening to Verdict then,
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this was 100% predicted
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and it happened exactly how you said it would.
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Well, to be fair,
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it was 95% predicted then
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and then last summer,
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I raised it to 100%.
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But if you listened to Verdict,
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you knew this was going to happen.
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It is 10.53 p.m. on December 1st.
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We are recording this podcast right now.
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On December 1st,
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Joe Biden did exactly what we told you
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he was going to do 11 months ago.
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He pardoned his son, Hunter Biden.
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Never mind about the corruption,
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never mind about the gun offenses,
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never mind about the drug offenses,
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never mind about the tax offenses.
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No man is above the law
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unless your name is Joe Biden
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and the entire Biden family.
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We're going to break that down,
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explain what just happened
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with the Hunter Biden pardon today.
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We're also going to talk about
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Donald Trump's nomination of
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Kash Patel as the director of the FBI.
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The left is losing their mind.
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The Democrats are freaking out.
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The media is freaking out.
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We're going to break down
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why they're freaking out
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and why this is a very good thing for America.
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And finally, a terrific victory.
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three Americans from unjust imprisonment,
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including Mark Svedan.
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Mark Svedan was a Texan.
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Who was imprisoned in China for 12 years.
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I've been leading the fight
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to bring Mark home.
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Mark is back in America.
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Three Americans are back in America.
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We're going to talk about that as well.
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It's such an incredible story,
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especially around Thanksgiving.
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So, all right,
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let's start with the narrative
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and work our way back.
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When this news broke tonight,
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we were all on text message
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and this was,
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the first part was
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Joe Biden pardons his son.
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Hunter,
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I wasn't surprised by it.
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You predicted it.
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You weren't surprised by it.
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What I was surprised
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was the amount of time
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of this,
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that it covers.
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He's basically off the hook
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for everything
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that involves
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the Biden crime family.
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And this is after
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Joe Biden
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repeatedly promised
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that he would
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not do this,
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that he would,
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it would honor
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and respect
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the justice system
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and the juries
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and whatever they decide
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to do with his son.
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And that was also
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all a lie.
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And I think the part
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that was the most shocking
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is how the media
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is covering this now.
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And I want to start
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with that.
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They're all saying
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to the American people,
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look,
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he already lost his son,
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one son who died
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of brain cancer.
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This is just a dad
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being a dad.
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I don't buy that
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for a second.
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I think this is him
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protecting the crime family
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and the bag man
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and that protects him.
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I don't think
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this is compassion
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from a father,
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your reaction to that.
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Well, listen,
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what Joe Biden said today,
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he put out a lengthy statement.
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Let me read his statement
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and then we're going
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to talk about what it means.
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Here's what Joe Biden said.
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Quote,
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Today I signed a pardon
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for my son, Hunter.
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From the day I took office,
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I said I would not interfere
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with the Justice Department's
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decision making.
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And I kept my word
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even as I watched my son
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being selectively
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and unfairly prosecuted.
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Without aggravating factors
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like use in a crime,
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multiple purchases,
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or buying a weapon
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as a straw purchaser,
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people are almost
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never brought to trial,
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on felony charges
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solely for how
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they filled out a gun form.
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Those who were late
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paying their taxes
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because of serious addictions,
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but paid them back subsequently
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with interest and penalties,
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are typically given
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non-criminal resolutions.
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It is clear that Hunter
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was treated differently.
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The charges in his case
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came about only after
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several of my political
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opponents in Congress
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instigated them
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to attack me
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and oppose my election.
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Then a carefully
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negotiated plea deal,
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agreed to by
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the Department of Justice,
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unraveled in the courtroom.
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With a number of my
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political opponents
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in Congress
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taking credit
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for bringing political
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pressure on the process.
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Had the plea deal held,
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it would have been
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a fair, reasonable
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resolution of Hunter's cases.
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No reasonable person
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who looks at the facts
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of Hunter's cases
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can reach any other conclusion
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than Hunter was singled out
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only because he is my son
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and that is wrong.
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There has been an effort
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to break Hunter,
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who has been
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five and a half years sober,
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even in the face
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of unrelenting attacks
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and selected prosecution.
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In trying to break Hunter,
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they've tried to break me.
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There's no reason
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to believe it will stop here.
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Enough is enough.
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For my entire career,
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I've followed a simple principle.
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Just tell the American people
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the truth.
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They'll be fair-minded.
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Here's the truth.
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I believe in the justice system,
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but as I've wrestled with this,
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I also believe raw politics
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has infected this process
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and it has led
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to a miscarriage of justice.
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And once I made this decision
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this weekend,
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there was no sense
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in delaying it further.
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I hope Americans will understand
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why a father and a president
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would come to this decision.
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Well, let me start with his ending.
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I understand why.
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I said in January,
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Joe Biden would pardon Hunter Biden
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and understand that
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to anyone who listens
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to this podcast,
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it's not a surprise.
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It is obvious.
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Hunter Biden is not
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some lonely crackhead
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who just sort of went astray.
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That's what Joe Biden
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and the entire White House
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has tried to paint him as.
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Hunter Biden's business
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was selling access to daddy.
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The real crook here
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is Joe Biden.
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And this is something
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that in this podcast
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we've broken down
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in elaborate detail.
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The evidence of criminality
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that Joe Biden
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and the Biden family,
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they made tens of millions
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of dollars selling favors
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from Joe Biden.
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Listen, nobody pays
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Hunter Biden.
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Nobody pays a crackhead money
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when he has no marketable services.
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He was not selling anything
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other than daddy.
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So when Joe Biden is saying,
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oh, it is terrible,
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no one's prosecuted for this.
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Number one,
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I'll tell you this.
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If you use crack cocaine
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with prostitutes,
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illegally buying guns
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with guns,
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you will be prosecuted
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and you will go to jail.
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You don't.
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People not named Biden
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don't get away with that.
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By the way,
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if you also defraud
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the federal government
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out of millions of dollars
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of taxes,
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you will be prosecuted.
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That is true as well.
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But the real corruption,
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listen,
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the Biden Justice Department
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declined to prosecute,
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deliberately allowed
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the statute of limitations
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to expire
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on many of the most
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egregious examples
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of corruption.
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Everything that implicated
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the big guy.
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Understand,
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this is all about Joe Biden.
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It's not about Hunter Biden.
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So when Joe Biden
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entered this pardon,
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it is about protecting
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his own rear end.
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Does he love his son?
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Sure.
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Does he want to protect
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his son?
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Sure.
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It's why I was certain
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he would grant this pardon.
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But if you really love
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your son,
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you don't send out
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your son who is an addict
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to be the front man,
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to be the bag man
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in collecting millions
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of dollars selling
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access to you.
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Joe Biden was perfectly
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willing to use his son
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as the point person
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and plan to blame it
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on the addiction.
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And so I've got to say,
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Joe Biden's claiming,
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well, gosh,
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it's just unfair
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he was targeted.
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What is unfair,
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what is not right,
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is that the Biden family
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made for decades
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a practice of selling
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favors from Joe Biden.
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That is fundamentally corrupt.
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And let me say finally,
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in Joe Biden's statement,
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he talks about,
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well, there was a plea deal
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from the Department of Justice
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and then it collapsed.
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Well, you know what?
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This podcast played
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a significant role
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in causing that plea deal
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to collapse.
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No doubt.
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To collapse.
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And why?
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Because we shined
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a light on it
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because it was indefensible.
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The plea deal was
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zero jail time,
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a slap on the wrist,
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which Joe Biden said,
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well, gosh,
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that would be fair.
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Don't punish my son.
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And understand,
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this is not about Hunter.
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This is about Joe.
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Let's talk about
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the length of this pardon
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because I think
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it's not just the pardon
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for these two charges.
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It's also, hey,
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this covers virtually
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all of the corruption
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and all of the sins
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of the Biden crime family
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when they knew
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they had millions
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of dollars coming
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into their son's bank account
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that was spending it
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on drugs
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and everything else
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that we know about
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from his laptop.
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He said, hey,
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you can't go after
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my son basically
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for anything.
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This is a pardon
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for all the bad things
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we've done.
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Well, and listen,
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if you're going to do it,
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you're going to make it
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as broad as possible
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because you don't care
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about the press blowback.
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And at the end of the day,
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Joe Biden's lost.
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Kamala Harris is lost.
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They don't care about
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the political consequences.
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That's why it was
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going to be December.
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It wasn't going to be November.
00:11:34.720
It wasn't going to be January.
00:11:35.800
December was going to be
00:11:36.560
the month it was.
00:11:37.680
And I want you to understand
00:11:38.960
for more than a year,
00:11:41.140
Joe Biden and every Democrat
00:11:42.420
has been lying
00:11:43.220
to the American people
00:11:44.180
repeatedly and brazenly.
00:11:45.940
I want you to listen
00:11:46.700
to Corrine Jean-Pierre
00:11:47.780
in December 2023.
00:11:49.520
Here's what she had to say.
00:11:50.740
The president would not
00:11:51.900
pardon or commute
00:11:53.520
the census for his son, Hunter.
00:11:55.440
I just want to make sure
00:11:56.160
that that is not going
00:11:57.000
to change over the next
00:11:57.820
six months.
00:11:58.260
The president's saying
00:11:59.560
it's still a no.
00:12:01.260
It's still a no.
00:12:01.860
It will always be a no.
00:12:03.040
It's still a no.
00:12:03.940
It will be a no.
00:12:05.080
It is a no.
00:12:06.220
And I don't have
00:12:06.880
anything else to add.
00:12:08.020
Will he pardon his son?
00:12:09.140
No.
00:12:10.640
Will he pardon his son?
00:12:11.660
No.
00:12:11.980
And she's actually
00:12:13.100
banging her hand
00:12:14.060
on the podium.
00:12:14.800
You can hear it.
00:12:16.140
OK, so let's play now
00:12:17.220
Corrine Jean-Pierre
00:12:17.960
in August of 2023.
00:12:20.940
Let me go back
00:12:21.540
to the first question
00:12:22.240
of the briefing.
00:12:22.720
I know you said
00:12:23.300
not a lot's changed
00:12:24.140
since yesterday
00:12:24.700
and that it's a personal matter.
00:12:25.820
But from a presidential
00:12:27.200
perspective,
00:12:27.740
is there any possibility
00:12:29.300
that the president
00:12:30.200
would end up
00:12:30.900
pardoning his son?
00:12:32.240
No.
00:12:33.300
OK, now let's do
00:12:34.840
Joe Biden himself
00:12:36.180
in June of 2024.
00:12:38.260
I'm extremely proud
00:12:39.640
of my son, Hunter.
00:12:40.860
He has overcome
00:12:41.820
an addiction.
00:12:42.700
He is.
00:12:43.300
He's one of the
00:12:44.340
brightest,
00:12:45.460
most decent men
00:12:46.220
I know.
00:12:47.040
And I am satisfied
00:12:48.760
that I'm not going
00:12:50.600
to do anything.
00:12:51.420
I said I abide
00:12:52.660
by the jury decision.
00:12:53.660
And I will do that
00:12:54.880
and I will not
00:12:55.740
pardon him.
00:12:57.000
OK, let's play
00:12:57.900
another interview again
00:12:59.040
from June of 2024.
00:13:00.620
Joe Biden again
00:13:01.320
on the same topic.
00:13:02.420
As we sit here
00:13:03.060
in Normandy,
00:13:04.020
your son Hunter
00:13:05.060
is on trial.
00:13:06.060
And I know
00:13:06.820
that you cannot speak
00:13:08.360
about an ongoing
00:13:09.140
federal prosecution.
00:13:11.580
But let me ask you,
00:13:12.960
will you accept
00:13:13.960
the jury's outcome,
00:13:15.480
their verdict,
00:13:16.020
no matter what it is?
00:13:17.340
Yes.
00:13:18.240
And have you ruled
00:13:19.120
out a pardon
00:13:19.660
for your son?
00:13:20.700
Yes.
00:13:21.740
I mean,
00:13:22.120
the guy's a pathological liar
00:13:24.240
everywhere he goes.
00:13:25.520
Final clip.
00:13:26.140
Let's let's play
00:13:26.720
Kareem Jean-Pierre
00:13:27.640
once again
00:13:28.460
on the same topic.
00:13:29.640
The president
00:13:30.260
would not pardon
00:13:31.520
or commute
00:13:32.360
for his son Hunter.
00:13:34.340
I just want to make sure
00:13:35.020
that that is not
00:13:35.700
going to change
00:13:36.160
over the next six months.
00:13:37.120
The president's
00:13:37.700
saying it would not.
00:13:38.740
It's still a no.
00:13:40.100
It's still a no.
00:13:40.700
It will always be a no.
00:13:41.800
It's still a no.
00:13:42.780
It will be a no.
00:13:43.900
It is a no.
00:13:45.060
And I don't have
00:13:45.720
anything else to add.
00:13:46.840
Will he pardon his son?
00:13:48.000
No.
00:13:48.980
Pretty consistent
00:13:49.960
with their lies.
00:13:51.440
Look,
00:13:51.800
understand
00:13:52.380
every person
00:13:54.080
listening
00:13:54.700
to Joe Biden,
00:13:56.220
every person
00:13:56.740
listening to
00:13:57.300
Kareem Jean-Pierre
00:13:58.100
knew that they were lying.
00:13:59.780
The reporter
00:14:00.200
asking that question
00:14:01.240
knew that they were lying.
00:14:03.320
Kareem Jean-Pierre,
00:14:04.320
she knew she was lying.
00:14:05.380
And Joe Biden,
00:14:06.220
every time he said it,
00:14:07.500
knew he was lying.
00:14:08.840
We said on this podcast
00:14:10.120
then,
00:14:11.040
they are lying.
00:14:13.100
And it was a cynical effort
00:14:14.720
to gaslight
00:14:15.400
the American people.
00:14:16.360
They hoped
00:14:16.840
at the time
00:14:17.800
they hoped Joe Biden
00:14:18.640
would win.
00:14:19.160
Later they hoped
00:14:19.720
Kamala Harris would win.
00:14:21.220
But their approach
00:14:23.040
was simple.
00:14:23.600
We're going to lie to you.
00:14:24.340
We're going to lie to you.
00:14:25.020
We're going to lie to you.
00:14:25.800
Don't you like
00:14:26.340
our happy lies?
00:14:27.700
And the plan
00:14:28.540
was always,
00:14:29.560
always,
00:14:30.040
always to issue
00:14:31.500
the pardon
00:14:32.100
because it covers up
00:14:34.160
for the criminality
00:14:35.160
that Joe Biden
00:14:36.100
is right at the nexus of.
00:14:37.160
So let's talk about
00:14:39.040
this future
00:14:40.980
and the Republicans
00:14:42.020
and what they should do.
00:14:43.420
There was a lot of people
00:14:44.480
asking the question,
00:14:45.500
okay,
00:14:46.420
is there anything
00:14:47.140
that you can do about this
00:14:48.520
or is this just the world
00:14:49.400
we live in now
00:14:50.240
where if you're the president
00:14:51.300
you can be as corrupt as hell
00:14:52.680
if you're a Democrat
00:14:53.380
and you've got people
00:14:54.120
to cover for you.
00:14:55.280
Then there's people
00:14:55.940
saying,
00:14:56.320
well,
00:14:56.400
hold on,
00:14:56.780
what about the other crimes
00:14:57.860
that involved
00:14:58.360
the other family members?
00:14:59.860
We know a lot of payments
00:15:01.000
went to a lot of people
00:15:01.960
with the last name Biden
00:15:02.880
when they were selling
00:15:03.580
access to U.S.
00:15:04.380
government.
00:15:05.420
Is this the,
00:15:06.620
end of this politically?
00:15:07.880
Move on
00:15:08.460
and that's just what it is
00:15:09.660
and we all know
00:15:10.380
that he's corrupt
00:15:11.120
and we know he lied to us
00:15:12.560
and we know he abused his power
00:15:13.840
and we know he sold access
00:15:15.020
to the United States government.
00:15:16.560
Well,
00:15:17.160
here is the text
00:15:18.380
of the pardon
00:15:18.980
that Joe Biden signed.
00:15:20.660
It is a pardon quote
00:15:21.940
for those offenses
00:15:23.520
against the United States
00:15:25.640
which he has committed
00:15:27.580
or may have committed
00:15:29.360
or taken part in
00:15:31.420
during the period
00:15:33.340
from January 1st, 2014
00:15:35.760
through December 1st, 2024
00:15:39.340
including but not limited
00:15:42.240
to all offenses
00:15:43.620
charged or prosecuted
00:15:45.120
including any that have resulted
00:15:47.400
in convictions
00:15:48.140
by Special Counsel David C. Weiss
00:15:50.560
in docket number 123CR00061-MN
00:15:56.420
in the United States District Court
00:15:58.080
for the District of Delaware
00:15:59.060
and docket number 223CR00599-MCS1
00:16:04.520
in the United States District Court
00:16:06.320
for the Central District of California.
00:16:08.300
So Ben,
00:16:08.740
how do you like that?
00:16:10.020
Every single federal offense
00:16:11.840
that you have committed
00:16:13.460
or you may have committed
00:16:15.040
or taken a part in
00:16:16.800
for a decade
00:16:18.220
from January 1st, 2014
00:16:20.460
to December 1st, 2024,
00:16:22.440
they're all erased clean.
00:16:24.600
I don't know that you could write
00:16:26.360
a broader pardon
00:16:28.220
other than,
00:16:29.800
listen, I'm president
00:16:30.640
and I gotta say,
00:16:31.980
by the way,
00:16:32.340
your question is there
00:16:33.080
anything you can do about it?
00:16:34.660
There is very, very little.
00:16:36.420
The pardon power
00:16:37.300
under the Constitution
00:16:38.180
is exceptionally broad.
00:16:40.020
The president has the ability
00:16:41.520
to pardon
00:16:42.680
any single federal offense.
00:16:44.660
In this case,
00:16:45.240
he's pardoning
00:16:45.880
every single federal offense
00:16:47.280
Hunter Biden may or may not
00:16:48.940
have committed
00:16:49.380
for over a decade.
00:16:50.840
And those federal offenses,
00:16:53.720
it is now impossible
00:16:55.000
to prosecute him,
00:16:56.140
impossible to hold him
00:16:57.260
liable for them.
00:16:58.680
Now, he's still liable
00:16:59.540
for state offenses,
00:17:00.860
but there has not been,
00:17:02.700
there have not been
00:17:04.100
any state prosecutions.
00:17:05.640
And so this is the consequence.
00:17:07.240
This was always the outcome.
00:17:09.240
It's why, look,
00:17:11.300
we've talked about
00:17:13.380
how the impeachment power,
00:17:14.840
the text of the Constitution
00:17:15.960
provides the impeachment power
00:17:17.480
for treason, bribery,
00:17:19.200
or other high crimes
00:17:20.240
or misdemeanors.
00:17:21.040
At the end of the day,
00:17:22.400
much of the conduct
00:17:23.240
that has been alleged here
00:17:24.580
is in the nature of bribery,
00:17:26.400
is in the nature of
00:17:27.340
paying off millions of dollars
00:17:28.780
to Joe Biden
00:17:29.520
for official favors.
00:17:32.260
And yet,
00:17:32.800
the Department of Justice
00:17:33.700
had zero interest
00:17:34.540
in examining it.
00:17:35.800
The Democrats in Congress
00:17:36.920
had zero interest
00:17:37.680
in examining it.
00:17:38.560
And the media
00:17:38.980
had zero interest
00:17:39.800
in examining it.
00:17:41.220
And so, as a consequence,
00:17:42.580
Hunter Biden
00:17:43.060
is now going to get off scot-free,
00:17:45.020
which was abundantly clear
00:17:46.820
from the outset
00:17:47.780
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00:18:22.780
Yes, Hunter Biden
00:18:23.720
is pardoned
00:18:25.640
for everything
00:18:26.540
in this,
00:18:28.220
as you said,
00:18:28.920
a sweeping pardon
00:18:30.000
that I've never seen before
00:18:31.520
at this level.
00:18:33.420
And in government,
00:18:34.400
from what we've seen
00:18:35.400
in the history
00:18:36.240
of my lifetime,
00:18:36.880
we've never seen
00:18:37.720
something this broad.
00:18:39.220
So,
00:18:39.520
the last question
00:18:41.300
I have is,
00:18:42.840
what about Joe Biden?
00:18:45.060
Is there anything
00:18:46.160
that can be done
00:18:46.920
against him?
00:18:47.600
Or is it just,
00:18:48.260
hey,
00:18:48.580
he's an old guy,
00:18:49.660
he dropped out
00:18:50.620
of the race.
00:18:51.400
As they said,
00:18:52.380
we would have prosecuted him
00:18:53.960
for keeping classified documents,
00:18:55.440
but no jury
00:18:56.420
would ever convict him
00:18:57.340
because he was too senile
00:18:59.020
to basically know
00:19:00.600
what he had done
00:19:01.360
in the past.
00:19:02.420
Is all of that
00:19:03.480
just going to be forgotten
00:19:04.500
now because of age?
00:19:06.980
Well,
00:19:07.440
let me be clear.
00:19:08.300
We have seen
00:19:09.060
pardons this broad
00:19:10.180
before.
00:19:10.640
And so,
00:19:11.340
if you look,
00:19:11.960
for example,
00:19:12.740
at the pardon
00:19:13.360
Gerald Ford issued
00:19:14.960
for Richard Nixon,
00:19:15.940
here is the operative
00:19:16.960
text of that pardon.
00:19:18.840
Now,
00:19:19.260
therefore,
00:19:19.780
I,
00:19:20.100
Gerald R. Ford,
00:19:21.140
President of the United States,
00:19:22.480
pursuant to the pardon power
00:19:23.660
conferred upon me
00:19:24.420
by Article 2,
00:19:25.700
Section 2 of the Constitution,
00:19:27.740
have granted
00:19:28.360
and by these presents
00:19:30.180
do grant
00:19:30.900
a full,
00:19:32.260
free,
00:19:32.820
and absolute pardon
00:19:33.880
unto Richard Nixon
00:19:34.880
for all offenses
00:19:36.600
against the United States
00:19:37.940
which he,
00:19:38.620
Richard Nixon,
00:19:39.240
has committed
00:19:39.760
or may have committed
00:19:41.400
or taken part in
00:19:42.780
during the period
00:19:44.300
from January 20th,
00:19:45.680
1969
00:19:46.400
through August 9th,
00:19:47.680
1974.
00:19:48.980
So,
00:19:49.980
they deliberately
00:19:51.200
borrowed the language
00:19:52.340
from the pardon
00:19:54.060
of Richard Nixon
00:19:54.800
and the idea was
00:19:55.860
this is a blanket
00:19:57.280
get-out-of-jail
00:19:58.040
freak card
00:19:58.660
and it's what
00:20:00.000
the Constitution
00:20:00.720
gives the President
00:20:01.700
this authority
00:20:02.400
and that's exactly
00:20:03.300
what they did.
00:20:04.200
Now,
00:20:04.400
your question was
00:20:05.360
what about Joe Biden?
00:20:06.700
So,
00:20:06.940
Joe Biden has not
00:20:07.740
pardoned himself.
00:20:08.560
I don't think he will.
00:20:09.980
And at the end
00:20:10.840
of the day
00:20:11.300
when the Trump
00:20:11.820
Department of Justice
00:20:12.620
comes into office
00:20:13.500
there will be a question
00:20:14.500
do they go
00:20:15.400
and prosecute
00:20:16.260
Joe Biden?
00:20:17.420
My guess is
00:20:18.120
the answer will be no.
00:20:19.400
That Joe Biden,
00:20:21.040
his dementia
00:20:22.140
has risen to a level
00:20:23.420
at this point
00:20:24.120
that I think
00:20:24.640
he's probably
00:20:25.100
going to ride off
00:20:25.780
into the sunset
00:20:26.380
and be done.
00:20:27.880
Maybe I'm wrong
00:20:28.740
but my suspicion
00:20:30.940
is Joe Biden
00:20:31.860
will not face
00:20:32.640
accountability
00:20:33.060
for the corruption
00:20:34.140
that Hunter
00:20:35.220
was the bag man for
00:20:36.420
and that his entire
00:20:37.200
family profited from.
00:20:40.040
Incredible.
00:20:40.660
And there's going to be
00:20:41.040
a lot of people
00:20:41.420
listening right now
00:20:42.000
they're going to be
00:20:42.420
angry about this.
00:20:43.740
I understand it.
00:20:44.540
I want to be clear.
00:20:45.240
I'm angry about it too
00:20:46.260
because it looks like
00:20:47.220
the entire family
00:20:48.600
his brother
00:20:49.220
and every other Biden
00:20:50.260
that was on the take
00:20:50.960
is going to get away
00:20:51.660
with this
00:20:52.200
in a sense
00:20:53.360
and look
00:20:53.920
this is the corruption
00:20:54.680
of the Democratic Party.
00:20:55.880
This is the reason
00:20:56.460
why I think
00:20:57.060
Donald Trump
00:20:57.600
one of the reasons
00:20:58.120
why he won this election
00:20:59.040
and why Republicans
00:20:59.820
control the House
00:21:00.700
and Senate
00:21:01.080
is people wanted
00:21:02.740
there to be
00:21:03.100
accountability
00:21:03.600
at least
00:21:04.280
on election day
00:21:05.700
that may be
00:21:06.380
the only silver lining.
00:21:07.060
Let me jump in
00:21:08.200
Ben
00:21:08.900
there may be
00:21:10.040
an exception
00:21:10.640
I don't think
00:21:11.140
it's impossible
00:21:11.940
that the Department
00:21:13.280
of Justice
00:21:13.780
prosecutes
00:21:14.600
Joe Biden's brother
00:21:15.580
Joe Biden's brother
00:21:16.980
I'm not aware
00:21:17.500
of any evidence
00:21:18.400
that he has dementia
00:21:19.760
that he is
00:21:20.820
serious mental
00:21:22.060
diminishment
00:21:22.620
and that may be
00:21:23.680
one avenue
00:21:24.220
I could see
00:21:24.800
the Department
00:21:25.260
of Justice
00:21:25.740
investigating
00:21:26.380
now one challenge
00:21:27.300
is
00:21:27.520
Oh hold on
00:21:28.120
I'm going to ask
00:21:29.100
now a prediction
00:21:29.800
you made a last
00:21:30.980
prediction
00:21:31.320
that was good
00:21:31.760
I want one
00:21:32.260
right now
00:21:32.820
I want you
00:21:34.040
to predict
00:21:34.500
whether or not
00:21:35.280
before the last
00:21:36.000
day January 20th
00:21:37.340
that Joe Biden
00:21:38.740
says screw it
00:21:39.620
I'm going to
00:21:40.040
hand out pardons
00:21:40.700
to my brother
00:21:41.160
or other family
00:21:41.840
members
00:21:42.300
I don't think
00:21:43.380
it's impossible
00:21:44.220
but I doubt it
00:21:46.080
I put it at
00:21:46.660
less than 50%
00:21:47.940
look I
00:21:49.580
and I think
00:21:51.180
if you were to
00:21:52.820
ask me to give
00:21:53.540
odds my guess
00:21:54.540
is that the
00:21:55.160
Trump Department
00:21:55.980
of Justice
00:21:56.420
probably doesn't
00:21:57.620
prosecute
00:21:58.180
Biden's brother
00:21:58.900
that there will
00:21:59.400
be a sense of
00:22:00.380
this is water
00:22:01.460
under the bridge
00:22:02.220
it's the prior
00:22:02.940
administration
00:22:03.520
it's not our
00:22:04.280
concern
00:22:04.600
let's move on
00:22:05.440
but I'm just
00:22:07.400
saying if you
00:22:08.080
were to predict
00:22:08.780
one avenue
00:22:09.860
and one challenge
00:22:11.160
is in terms
00:22:12.580
of whether you
00:22:13.120
could prosecute
00:22:13.880
Biden's brother
00:22:14.820
a major challenge
00:22:15.960
would be the
00:22:16.460
statute of
00:22:16.920
limitation
00:22:17.360
that many
00:22:17.980
of the most
00:22:18.480
corrupt actions
00:22:19.400
occurred long
00:22:20.920
enough
00:22:21.280
that the
00:22:22.220
statute of
00:22:22.720
limitations
00:22:23.180
has expired
00:22:24.260
and what that
00:22:24.920
means statute
00:22:25.560
of limitations
00:22:26.140
is in federal
00:22:27.420
law
00:22:27.640
it's also true
00:22:28.180
in state law
00:22:28.860
that there is
00:22:29.820
a limit
00:22:30.360
to how
00:22:31.680
recently
00:22:32.340
the conduct
00:22:33.060
must have
00:22:33.500
occurred
00:22:33.860
before you
00:22:34.320
could prosecute
00:22:34.980
it's the idea
00:22:35.660
that you can't
00:22:36.840
come back
00:22:37.420
and prosecute
00:22:38.540
you Ben
00:22:39.000
for something
00:22:39.440
you did 20
00:22:40.040
years ago
00:22:40.740
that you don't
00:22:41.540
remember that
00:22:42.120
the evidence
00:22:42.560
is stale
00:22:43.120
there's some
00:22:43.620
notion that
00:22:44.160
there needs
00:22:44.500
to be finality
00:22:45.240
in law
00:22:45.740
and that
00:22:46.000
prosecutions
00:22:46.680
need to
00:22:47.120
occur relatively
00:22:49.320
promptly after
00:22:50.260
the criminality
00:22:51.040
and so I
00:22:51.540
think much
00:22:53.260
of the conduct
00:22:54.060
that Joe's
00:22:55.380
brother has been
00:22:55.940
implicated in
00:22:56.760
the statute
00:22:57.720
of limitations
00:22:58.440
and all
00:22:58.880
likelihood has
00:22:59.520
expired
00:23:00.000
and so that
00:23:00.680
may prevent
00:23:01.420
a prosecution
00:23:02.280
if you were
00:23:03.220
going to ask
00:23:03.680
me is there
00:23:04.060
going to be
00:23:04.300
another pardon
00:23:04.820
for his
00:23:05.660
brother
00:23:05.880
probably not
00:23:06.920
but it's
00:23:07.680
not beyond
00:23:08.600
the realm
00:23:09.600
of contemplation
00:23:11.000
incredible
00:23:12.640
I want to
00:23:13.320
deal with
00:23:13.620
also you
00:23:14.180
talked about
00:23:14.640
the deep
00:23:14.940
state and I
00:23:15.320
want to
00:23:15.520
talk about
00:23:15.920
the FBI
00:23:16.480
as well
00:23:17.220
and Kash
00:23:17.820
Patel
00:23:18.480
and being
00:23:19.020
named FBI
00:23:20.020
director by
00:23:20.700
Donald Trump
00:23:21.200
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00:23:22.160
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this show
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senator
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talking about
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the FBI
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and
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Kash Patel
00:25:34.540
being named
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the FBI
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director
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this is a
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name that
00:25:38.560
Democrats
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like
00:25:39.920
Kash Patel
00:25:40.620
so people
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understand
00:25:41.400
history
00:25:41.900
this is a
00:25:42.680
guy that
00:25:43.000
actually
00:25:43.520
the deep
00:25:45.240
state went
00:25:45.800
after when
00:25:46.560
he was working
00:25:47.340
for Donald
00:25:47.940
Trump the
00:25:48.320
first time
00:25:48.980
with Russia
00:25:50.220
Russia
00:25:50.560
Russia
00:25:50.960
and he
00:25:51.660
found out
00:25:52.340
about it
00:25:52.900
that when
00:25:54.460
apparently
00:25:55.600
Google
00:25:56.220
five years
00:25:57.000
after the
00:25:57.480
fact
00:25:57.780
sent him
00:25:58.560
a letter
00:25:58.900
saying hey
00:25:59.580
we had to
00:26:00.060
disclose to
00:26:00.660
you now
00:26:01.080
that we
00:26:01.840
gave a
00:26:02.420
bunch of
00:26:02.720
your information
00:26:03.380
over to
00:26:03.960
the FBI
00:26:04.600
that's
00:26:05.640
the now
00:26:06.000
the guy
00:26:06.380
that will
00:26:06.680
be running
00:26:07.360
the FBI
00:26:08.380
if he gets
00:26:09.060
confirmed
00:26:09.640
your reaction
00:26:10.880
well I think
00:26:12.400
this is a
00:26:13.000
strong
00:26:13.460
nomination I
00:26:14.300
think we're
00:26:14.680
seeing
00:26:15.260
Democrats
00:26:16.320
and we're
00:26:16.800
seeing the
00:26:17.200
media
00:26:17.420
freaking
00:26:17.800
out
00:26:18.100
and they're
00:26:18.380
freaking
00:26:18.660
out
00:26:19.080
not because
00:26:20.240
they think
00:26:20.660
Kash Patel
00:26:21.200
is unqualified
00:26:21.920
but rather
00:26:22.540
because they
00:26:23.200
believe he
00:26:24.460
will actually
00:26:25.060
do what
00:26:25.600
Trump promised
00:26:26.200
he would
00:26:26.480
do they
00:26:26.800
believe he
00:26:27.360
will actually
00:26:27.980
clean out
00:26:28.740
the corruption
00:26:30.480
at the FBI
00:26:31.260
that he will
00:26:31.800
take on
00:26:32.640
the partisans
00:26:34.180
that have
00:26:34.900
burrowed into
00:26:35.640
senior career
00:26:36.500
positions
00:26:37.040
this is something
00:26:38.000
we've been
00:26:38.360
calling for on
00:26:39.000
this podcast
00:26:39.780
for a long
00:26:40.540
time to have
00:26:41.180
leadership that
00:26:42.260
is willing to
00:26:42.860
really root out
00:26:43.600
the partisanship
00:26:44.500
and corruption
00:26:45.000
and say no
00:26:45.640
more
00:26:46.320
the FBI
00:26:46.900
needs to
00:26:47.520
restore its
00:26:48.300
integrity
00:26:48.780
I think this
00:26:49.420
is a nomination
00:26:51.320
the reason
00:26:52.540
people are
00:26:53.080
losing their
00:26:53.580
minds is
00:26:54.120
because they
00:26:54.820
believe
00:26:55.400
Kash Patel
00:26:56.280
is going to
00:26:56.800
do exactly
00:26:57.480
what Trump
00:26:57.880
said he
00:26:58.120
would do
00:26:58.800
and Senator
00:27:00.460
you actually
00:27:00.980
talked about
00:27:01.640
this on
00:27:02.320
Sunday morning
00:27:02.960
on Face the
00:27:03.540
Nation on
00:27:03.980
CBS and it
00:27:04.940
was very
00:27:05.320
interesting to
00:27:05.760
see the
00:27:06.040
back and
00:27:06.420
forth take a
00:27:07.160
listen to
00:27:07.540
that for
00:27:07.980
people that
00:27:08.320
may have
00:27:08.540
missed it
00:27:09.100
Kash Patel
00:27:10.200
suggested by
00:27:11.400
Trump as
00:27:12.260
the new
00:27:12.520
leader of
00:27:12.880
the FBI
00:27:13.340
how enthusiastic
00:27:15.020
are you about
00:27:15.960
that
00:27:16.320
listen I think
00:27:18.900
Kash Patel is a
00:27:19.900
very strong
00:27:20.800
nominee I think
00:27:21.660
the entire slate
00:27:22.580
of cabinet
00:27:23.080
nominees
00:27:23.600
President Trump
00:27:24.700
has put forward
00:27:25.480
is very strong
00:27:26.540
I believe every
00:27:27.560
one of these
00:27:28.020
cabinet nominees
00:27:28.800
is going to be
00:27:30.040
confirmed by the
00:27:30.960
Senate I think
00:27:31.480
Kash Patel is
00:27:32.760
going to be
00:27:33.360
confirmed by the
00:27:34.220
Senate you look
00:27:34.840
at his background
00:27:35.460
he has a serious
00:27:36.740
professional background
00:27:37.900
he was a
00:27:38.780
prosecutor he
00:27:39.620
was a public
00:27:40.480
defender he was a
00:27:42.040
senior intelligence
00:27:43.400
staffer on
00:27:44.220
Capitol Hill he
00:27:45.140
was a senior
00:27:45.760
intelligence staffer
00:27:46.860
in the White
00:27:47.780
House he was the
00:27:48.500
chief of staff of
00:27:49.280
the Department of
00:27:49.860
Defense he was the
00:27:50.980
deputy director of
00:27:52.040
national intelligence
00:27:52.980
and I gotta say all
00:27:54.640
of the weeping and
00:27:55.560
gnashing of teeth all
00:27:56.580
of the people pulling
00:27:57.320
their hair out are
00:27:58.400
exactly the people who
00:27:59.820
are dismayed about
00:28:00.800
having a real reformer
00:28:02.120
come into the FBI
00:28:03.060
and clean out the
00:28:05.360
corrupted partisans
00:28:07.160
who sadly have
00:28:08.540
burrowed into senior
00:28:09.520
career positions at the
00:28:11.260
FBI the FBI the
00:28:12.600
Department of Justice
00:28:13.440
are two institutions
00:28:14.560
incredibly important
00:28:16.440
to the rule of law
00:28:17.420
in the United States
00:28:18.260
I revere both
00:28:19.500
and one of the most
00:28:20.800
tragic consequences
00:28:22.400
of four years of
00:28:23.460
Joe Biden Kamala
00:28:24.480
Harris is both DOJ
00:28:26.300
and the FBI have
00:28:27.340
been politicized
00:28:28.520
and weaponized
00:28:30.020
and I think
00:28:30.400
Kash Patel is a
00:28:31.320
very strong nominee
00:28:32.480
to take on the
00:28:33.900
partisan corruption
00:28:35.740
in the FBI
00:28:36.880
as you know
00:28:37.700
senator there isn't
00:28:38.480
a vacancy at the
00:28:39.320
top of the FBI
00:28:40.100
what should become
00:28:40.880
of Christopher Wray
00:28:41.680
appointed by
00:28:42.320
President Trump
00:28:43.000
well I think
00:28:45.500
he'll make a choice
00:28:46.260
I think either
00:28:47.120
he will resign
00:28:47.880
or President Trump
00:28:48.680
will fire him
00:28:49.380
but it's no secret
00:28:50.460
to anybody
00:28:51.120
including Chris Wray
00:28:52.220
that he is not
00:28:53.260
going to continue
00:28:53.780
to serve as the
00:28:54.480
head of the FBI
00:28:55.200
under Donald Trump
00:28:56.900
listen if you look
00:28:58.620
at James Comey
00:29:00.240
and Chris Wray
00:29:00.940
there has never
00:29:02.300
been a period
00:29:02.940
in our nation's
00:29:03.760
history where
00:29:04.240
the FBI has
00:29:05.140
suffered a greater
00:29:06.460
loss of respect
00:29:07.720
where more
00:29:08.420
Americans doubt
00:29:09.440
the fundamental
00:29:10.560
integrity of the
00:29:11.720
FBI and it's
00:29:12.520
because James Comey
00:29:13.500
and Chris Wray
00:29:14.120
presided over
00:29:15.020
allowing the FBI
00:29:16.680
to become a
00:29:17.700
partisan cudgel
00:29:18.940
to be used to
00:29:20.300
target parents
00:29:21.240
at school board
00:29:21.980
meetings to be
00:29:22.640
used to target
00:29:23.420
people who chose
00:29:24.720
not to take the
00:29:25.540
COVID vaccine
00:29:26.280
to be used to
00:29:27.100
target President
00:29:27.840
Trump and to
00:29:28.740
target the political
00:29:29.600
opponents of Joe
00:29:30.540
Biden and the
00:29:31.060
White House
00:29:31.520
it is tragic
00:29:32.820
that is not what
00:29:33.780
the FBI is for
00:29:34.800
that is not what
00:29:35.540
the DOJ is for
00:29:36.600
and I got to say
00:29:37.680
Pam Bondi and
00:29:38.600
Kash Patel I think
00:29:39.640
together are a
00:29:40.860
very strong slate
00:29:41.980
of nominees to go
00:29:43.020
and restore
00:29:43.560
integrity to both
00:29:45.100
institutions
00:29:45.780
I don't think it
00:29:48.320
can be better said
00:29:49.040
than that and
00:29:49.500
that's why there's
00:29:50.700
so many that are
00:29:51.780
freaked out over
00:29:52.920
Patel because he's
00:29:53.800
going to go in
00:29:54.500
and do his job
00:29:55.620
the way it's
00:29:56.080
supposed to be
00:29:56.620
done and also
00:29:57.820
that means part
00:29:58.660
of this is
00:29:59.580
clearing house
00:30:00.240
of the political
00:30:01.580
partisans that are
00:30:02.440
in there that have
00:30:02.980
weaponized the
00:30:04.380
government
00:30:04.800
that's exactly
00:30:07.700
right and we've
00:30:08.520
seen you know I
00:30:09.880
wrote a book
00:30:10.860
called justice
00:30:12.020
corrupted how the
00:30:12.920
left is weaponized
00:30:13.880
the legal system
00:30:14.680
and in the book I
00:30:16.060
described how
00:30:17.060
starting with
00:30:18.020
Barack Obama
00:30:18.800
we saw the
00:30:20.380
Department of
00:30:20.940
Justice and the
00:30:21.620
FBI and the
00:30:22.420
CIA and the
00:30:23.220
alphabet soup of
00:30:24.060
the federal
00:30:24.360
government turned
00:30:25.700
into a weapon
00:30:26.560
to target and
00:30:27.560
persecute the
00:30:29.280
political enemies
00:30:30.440
of Barack Obama
00:30:31.420
when Trump
00:30:32.780
became president
00:30:33.600
those partisans
00:30:34.520
what they did
00:30:35.260
is they went
00:30:36.320
into senior
00:30:37.340
career positions
00:30:38.420
in the agencies
00:30:39.820
and from day
00:30:40.860
one from the
00:30:41.500
first day of
00:30:42.060
Trump's first
00:30:42.600
term they
00:30:44.000
waged war on
00:30:45.480
Donald Trump
00:30:46.100
from within the
00:30:47.080
deep state they
00:30:48.140
wanted to destroy
00:30:49.180
him they wanted
00:30:49.840
to stop his
00:30:50.620
agenda they
00:30:51.700
hated him and
00:30:53.440
then when Joe
00:30:54.100
Biden became
00:30:54.780
president they
00:30:55.700
came out in
00:30:56.440
the open they
00:30:57.020
were brazen
00:30:57.820
they were
00:30:58.720
completely
00:30:59.420
they were not
00:31:02.160
pretending anymore
00:31:03.060
and so listen
00:31:03.960
as I said I
00:31:05.000
think Kash
00:31:05.420
Patel will be
00:31:06.840
confirmed and
00:31:07.700
when he is I
00:31:08.940
think it is going
00:31:09.480
to be hugely
00:31:10.440
important that
00:31:12.160
that he follow
00:31:13.900
through on those
00:31:14.680
promises to get
00:31:15.780
rid of the
00:31:16.720
partisans and
00:31:17.580
listen a point I
00:31:18.380
made Major Garrett
00:31:19.300
was pressing back
00:31:20.240
saying wasn't this
00:31:20.980
terrible that Chris
00:31:21.840
Ray would be
00:31:22.320
fired listen in the
00:31:23.840
entire history of
00:31:24.920
the FBI we
00:31:26.700
have never seen
00:31:27.760
the respect for
00:31:28.840
the FBI
00:31:29.440
diminished as
00:31:31.540
greatly as it
00:31:32.380
has been under
00:31:33.100
Chris Ray and
00:31:33.780
under James
00:31:34.240
Comey before him
00:31:35.120
that the American
00:31:36.900
people no longer
00:31:38.300
trust the
00:31:39.280
integrity of the
00:31:40.160
FBI that is
00:31:42.180
listen with James
00:31:43.160
Comey I think
00:31:43.860
he's a hard
00:31:44.380
partisan I think
00:31:45.280
he was the point
00:31:46.020
of the spear
00:31:46.600
with Chris Ray
00:31:47.760
I think it's
00:31:48.260
different I
00:31:48.680
actually think
00:31:49.220
Chris Ray he's
00:31:49.940
not a Democrat
00:31:50.580
he's a Republican
00:31:51.380
he's not a
00:31:51.980
leftist but he
00:31:53.380
views his job
00:31:54.840
as protecting
00:31:56.360
the institution
00:31:57.220
and I think
00:31:57.760
he made a
00:31:58.260
fundamental mistake
00:31:59.220
that he believes
00:32:00.500
that protecting
00:32:01.380
the career senior
00:32:02.900
officials who
00:32:04.040
themselves are
00:32:05.000
vicious partisans
00:32:06.080
I think he
00:32:07.080
thinks that's
00:32:07.680
somehow protecting
00:32:08.480
the FBI where
00:32:09.340
the result is
00:32:10.280
that the public
00:32:12.220
respect of the
00:32:13.220
FBI has been
00:32:14.100
profoundly damaged
00:32:15.200
I think the
00:32:15.840
new director of
00:32:17.340
the FBI has a
00:32:18.300
very important
00:32:19.060
job to root
00:32:20.640
out those
00:32:21.160
partisans and
00:32:21.920
to bring it
00:32:22.480
back to a
00:32:24.240
fidelity to
00:32:25.300
law by the
00:32:25.840
way I
00:32:26.680
think the
00:32:27.260
other political
00:32:27.960
prosecutions
00:32:28.860
that have
00:32:29.180
been brought
00:32:29.700
are natural
00:32:31.360
candidates for
00:32:32.500
the pardon
00:32:33.140
power if you
00:32:33.840
look at Donald
00:32:34.380
Trump I think
00:32:34.900
Donald Trump
00:32:35.540
should pardon
00:32:36.720
those people
00:32:37.320
who've been
00:32:37.620
prosecuted for
00:32:38.420
January 6th who
00:32:39.820
did not engage
00:32:40.920
in crimes of
00:32:41.600
violence if you
00:32:42.180
engage in a
00:32:42.740
crime of violence
00:32:43.360
if you physically
00:32:44.220
and violently
00:32:45.300
assaulted a police
00:32:46.200
officer you
00:32:47.200
shouldn't be
00:32:47.820
pardoned you
00:32:48.400
should face
00:32:49.000
criminal
00:32:49.360
prosecution if
00:32:50.300
you committed
00:32:50.780
a crime of
00:32:52.060
violence against a
00:32:52.880
police officer but
00:32:53.740
if you were
00:32:54.200
engaged in a
00:32:54.860
peaceful protest
00:32:55.540
I think those
00:32:56.740
are natural
00:32:57.300
candidates for
00:32:58.040
pardons I
00:32:58.580
also think
00:32:59.260
Lauren Handy
00:33:00.380
who is the
00:33:01.440
pro-life
00:33:02.340
protester who's
00:33:03.780
right now serving
00:33:04.920
six years in
00:33:06.360
federal prison for
00:33:07.340
non-violent protest
00:33:08.800
against abortion
00:33:09.760
I think Lauren
00:33:10.860
Handy is a
00:33:11.600
natural candidate
00:33:12.620
for a pardon
00:33:13.500
from President
00:33:15.120
Trump I think
00:33:15.760
there's a very
00:33:16.700
substantial likelihood
00:33:17.700
she will receive
00:33:18.600
a pardon I
00:33:19.620
think the
00:33:20.020
non-violent
00:33:20.640
January 6th
00:33:21.540
protesters are
00:33:22.240
likely to receive
00:33:23.040
pardons and
00:33:24.060
and that is
00:33:24.660
going to cause
00:33:25.220
Democrats in
00:33:25.920
the media to
00:33:26.440
lose their
00:33:26.880
mind because
00:33:27.540
not only are
00:33:28.180
they happy to
00:33:28.760
look the other
00:33:29.300
way at the
00:33:30.440
weaponization of
00:33:31.280
the Department of
00:33:31.820
Justice and the
00:33:32.420
FBI they are
00:33:33.920
vested in
00:33:34.720
defending that
00:33:35.600
weaponization and
00:33:36.660
it is that is a
00:33:37.920
mandate understand
00:33:39.180
Donald Trump
00:33:40.520
campaign to the
00:33:41.740
American people
00:33:42.500
saying I will
00:33:43.640
root out this
00:33:44.420
corruption and I
00:33:45.900
think this
00:33:46.300
nomination and his
00:33:47.280
following through on
00:33:48.100
that promise is
00:33:49.400
fundamentally about
00:33:50.500
respecting democracy
00:33:51.760
the American people
00:33:52.680
said yes we
00:33:54.160
don't want the
00:33:54.880
federal government
00:33:55.640
weaponized against
00:33:57.460
the political
00:33:58.100
opposition of the
00:33:59.480
White House
00:33:59.960
yeah amen to that
00:34:01.160
and finally Senator
00:34:02.360
this is such an
00:34:03.340
important story and
00:34:05.540
I hope that
00:34:06.360
everybody listening
00:34:07.220
will actually take
00:34:08.080
this podcast today
00:34:09.220
share it on on
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00:34:13.440
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social media text it
00:34:16.540
to your friends because
00:34:17.980
the story that we're
00:34:18.760
about to talk about is
00:34:19.980
a story that really
00:34:20.860
the media is just
00:34:22.240
not covering it is
00:34:24.580
something that you've
00:34:25.400
also led on especially
00:34:27.660
being a member of the
00:34:29.020
Senate Foreign Relations
00:34:30.060
Committee there was
00:34:31.520
not one not two but
00:34:32.740
three Americans that
00:34:34.080
were detained for years
00:34:35.200
in China that have now
00:34:36.300
been released give a
00:34:38.120
quick recap of just how
00:34:39.640
long they've been
00:34:40.700
there but also why this
00:34:42.320
happened now well so
00:34:45.360
there were three
00:34:45.820
Americans who who
00:34:46.940
returned from China
00:34:48.140
they've been imprisoned
00:34:48.960
in China for for
00:34:50.360
years one of them is a
00:34:51.740
Texan one of them is
00:34:52.760
someone named Mark
00:34:54.360
Suedan the other two
00:34:56.120
are Kai Lai and John
00:34:57.800
Leong so Mark Suedan is
00:34:59.880
a Texan he's from
00:35:00.720
Houston his mother is
00:35:02.620
Catherine Suedan I've
00:35:03.920
spoken to Catherine
00:35:05.000
multiple times she is
00:35:07.000
from Luling Texas
00:35:08.160
Mark Suedan has been in
00:35:10.460
jail in China for 12
00:35:12.940
years and it was a
00:35:14.740
completely bogus charge
00:35:16.080
it was a trumped up
00:35:17.020
charge and the Chinese
00:35:19.920
government was
00:35:20.660
persecuting him as an
00:35:21.960
American I've spoken
00:35:22.880
out on on Mark
00:35:23.920
Suedan's behalf multiple
00:35:25.240
times I authored a
00:35:27.120
resolution that passed
00:35:28.200
the Senate unanimously
00:35:29.400
calling for Mark
00:35:30.560
Suedan's release I've
00:35:32.160
raised his case over
00:35:34.300
and over and over again
00:35:35.320
with the Biden
00:35:35.820
administration I'll give
00:35:36.780
them some credit they
00:35:38.100
leaned in in a
00:35:38.980
significant way and they
00:35:40.020
got him home he is back
00:35:41.300
in Texas today and this
00:35:44.460
is also something that
00:35:45.420
you talked about on
00:35:46.140
face the nation I want
00:35:47.080
people to hear part of
00:35:48.400
what you had to say
00:35:49.140
what can you tell us
00:35:50.720
about the three
00:35:51.300
Americans released by
00:35:52.420
China who were in San
00:35:53.600
Antonio have you been in
00:35:54.600
touch with them and do
00:35:55.840
you have any concerns
00:35:56.560
about the contours of
00:35:57.800
that swap well at this
00:36:00.300
stage we don't know all
00:36:01.360
of the details of the
00:36:02.240
contours of the swap but
00:36:03.440
I'll tell you I am
00:36:04.320
celebrating the return of
00:36:05.960
three Americans especially
00:36:07.300
Mark Suedan Mark Suedan
00:36:08.740
is a Texan from Houston
00:36:10.740
his mom Catherine is from
00:36:11.980
Luling Texas I've talked
00:36:13.220
with Catherine many times
00:36:15.260
I authored and passed a
00:36:16.820
resolution in the Senate
00:36:17.940
that passed unanimously
00:36:19.280
calling for Mark Suedan's
00:36:21.460
return to America he spent
00:36:23.080
12 years unjustly
00:36:25.320
imprisoned in communist
00:36:26.480
China I'll tell you I have
00:36:28.160
raised it directly with a
00:36:29.360
foreign minister of China
00:36:30.400
I've raised it with
00:36:31.100
President Biden I've raised
00:36:32.380
it with Secretary of State
00:36:34.540
Tony Blinken and I will
00:36:35.860
give them credit on this
00:36:37.120
Tony Blinken just two weeks
00:36:38.540
ago was the most recent
00:36:39.900
time I spoke with him about
00:36:41.140
Mark Suedan and the
00:36:42.580
administration has pressed
00:36:43.940
the Chinese government and
00:36:45.180
Mark Suedan is back home
00:36:46.840
with his mother who has
00:36:48.140
prayed for him who has
00:36:49.120
loved loved him I want to
00:36:50.540
say Mark welcome home
00:36:51.780
Catherine congratulations I
00:36:53.620
told you this day would
00:36:54.680
come this is a time where
00:36:56.140
all Texans and all Americans
00:36:57.420
should be celebrating
00:36:58.220
very quickly Senator Cruz
00:36:59.860
because I also know you
00:37:00.740
care about the case of
00:37:01.680
Austin Tice do you have any
00:37:03.360
sense that the rebel gains
00:37:04.820
in Syria of the recent
00:37:06.500
vintage will have any chance
00:37:08.600
of unlocking Austin Tice's
00:37:10.620
freedom I don't know I
00:37:13.300
certainly hope and pray
00:37:14.680
Austin Tice needs to come
00:37:16.240
home and and I hope and
00:37:17.960
pray listen there's a
00:37:18.760
combination of two things
00:37:20.000
working one as Joe Biden
00:37:22.100
is in the process of
00:37:23.320
transitioning out any any
00:37:24.800
outgoing president is
00:37:25.900
looking to try to get some
00:37:26.980
final wins I would
00:37:28.420
encourage him and I'm sure
00:37:29.620
he is doing everything he
00:37:30.860
can to bring Austin Tice
00:37:32.480
home to bring the hostages
00:37:33.940
in Gaza home both the
00:37:35.580
Israelis and the Americans
00:37:36.760
bring them home in this
00:37:38.160
window I also think
00:37:39.660
President Trump coming
00:37:40.800
into office on January
00:37:42.120
20th the enemies of
00:37:43.480
America I think are afraid
00:37:45.300
of President Trump that
00:37:46.400
is a moment I hope we have
00:37:48.420
a moment right now that is
00:37:49.700
very much like the end of
00:37:50.980
the Jimmy Carter
00:37:51.600
administration right before
00:37:53.480
Ronald Reagan came in and
00:37:54.740
we saw on January 20th our
00:37:56.900
hostages in Iran released I
00:37:59.080
think in significant part
00:38:00.320
because the Ayatollah was
00:38:02.240
afraid of Reagan I hope a
00:38:03.480
similar dynamic is playing
00:38:05.160
out and if we can see more
00:38:06.280
hostages come home that
00:38:07.840
would be cause for enormous
00:38:09.080
celebration enormous
00:38:10.940
celebration that is a hundred
00:38:13.520
percent accurate because for
00:38:14.820
these families as you
00:38:16.300
mentioned this is a day
00:38:17.980
they've been waiting now for
00:38:19.000
years no that's absolutely
00:38:21.500
right and and and so the
00:38:22.920
fact that we've got three
00:38:23.820
Americans back from China
00:38:24.960
that's great I hope we see
00:38:26.420
more hostages coming back
00:38:27.640
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00:38:29.860
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00:38:31.280
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00:38:32.260
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