Verdict with Ted Cruz - January 18, 2023


HUNTER Claims He Paid $50K a month to Daddy - Only 2 Possibilities： A Lie, or Criminal Corruption By Joe Biden


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00:00:00.000 This is an iHeart Podcast.
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00:00:04.660 Welcome to His Verdict with Senator Ted Cruz, Ben Ferguson with you as well.
00:00:08.440 Nice to have you with us.
00:00:09.640 And Senator, I just want to know, have you ever paid your dad $49,910 in rent to live
00:00:18.820 in his house at any point in your life?
00:00:20.640 I just think we should make sure we get a good answer on this.
00:00:23.820 Look, to be honest, I don't think I paid my dad back the 20 bucks he lent me when I went
00:00:28.860 out as a 15-year-old, much less paying a dollar of rent to either of my parents at any point
00:00:35.540 in my life.
00:00:36.260 This story of Hunter Biden paying this rent, and for people that don't know this story,
00:00:41.520 there is a document that apparently Hunter Biden filled out.
00:00:45.620 Marina Devine, New York Post, she's also the author of Laptop from Hell, put this out there,
00:00:49.740 and now we're hearing that the House Oversight Committee is going to probe investigating these
00:00:54.560 suspicious bank records concerning Hunter Biden's recorded $49,910 in rent.
00:01:00.180 The other thing that could be a big problem for the president now is if you look back at his tax
00:01:04.780 returns from the time when Hunter Biden put this on official background check form for another place
00:01:10.100 and put the residence and put down his license number and everything was accurate on this piece
00:01:15.820 of paper doesn't match up with the president's tax returns of anybody paying him $49,000 a month for
00:01:24.300 rent.
00:01:24.800 That could be a problem in so many different ways for the president.
00:01:29.040 Well, and let's explain this story because it can be confusing and it's important to understand
00:01:33.680 what happened.
00:01:34.860 Look, the punchline of this is that based on what we know now, there are two and I think only two
00:01:41.660 possibilities. One, this is corruption, or two, this is dishonesty, or I suppose there's option
00:01:47.640 three, it could be both. But let's walk through what it is. So Hunter Biden filled out a background
00:01:53.060 screening request in California. He was applying to get into a shishi residential area and he had
00:01:59.160 to fill out this background screening request. And I am looking at it, I'm reading the background
00:02:03.920 screening request right now. It's handwritten. The name, Robert Hunter Biden. It gives the address,
00:02:12.900 it is his father's home in Wilmington, Delaware. And it includes also his social security number.
00:02:21.680 It's blocked out, but I'm told the last four digits that are not blocked out are Hunter Biden
00:02:26.820 social security numbers. It also includes his driver's license. Part of it's blocked out,
00:02:32.020 but I'm told the last three digits that are visible are Hunter Biden's driver's license. All of this is
00:02:36.840 handwritten. And it says his current residence. And he indicates number one, it asks, do you own
00:02:45.500 lease or family friend? Now, Hunter Biden indicates that he owns it. He does not, I believe, in fact,
00:02:54.640 own the house that mom and dad live in. But he claims he does. And by the way, there's a box that says
00:03:01.300 family friend. So if he's saying I live with my dad, the obvious box to check his family friend,
00:03:06.240 that it's my dad's house. But he also puts there's a box that says monthly rent. And Hunter Biden
00:03:15.280 handwrites forty nine thousand nine hundred and ten dollars. Now, this raises a gazillion questions all
00:03:25.080 at once. Number one, I think there is no reason to doubt the accuracy of this document. If it were
00:03:33.060 not, in fact, a real document handwritten by Hunter Biden, we would expect the White House to be
00:03:38.040 screaming that from the mountaintops. It has all the indicia on the face of being something Hunter
00:03:43.020 Biden filled out. If it is, in fact, accurate, and I don't believe they're going to come back with an
00:03:48.780 argument. This is a forgery. They're not going to dispute that. Then he presumably was being dishonest
00:03:56.780 and lying when he said that Hunter Biden owns his father's house. But he claimed that he was paying
00:04:04.200 his father forty nine thousand nine hundred and ten dollars a month. Now, let's stop for a second.
00:04:09.240 I want to ask folks listening to this pod. Have you ever paid fifty thousand dollars a month in rent
00:04:15.660 for anything? I certainly haven't. Yeah. I played a few paid a few thousand,
00:04:20.380 but fifty grand a month. And the thing says monthly rent. It doesn't say annual rent.
00:04:26.380 It says monthly rent. And that is an astonishing figure. And then I want you to ratchet up a little
00:04:33.940 more. Have you ever paid it to your father? If it is the case that Joe Biden was extracting
00:04:41.640 fifty grand a month from his son? If that is true, as you noted, that is apparently not indicated on Joe
00:04:52.300 Biden's tax return. So it raises real issues of criminality potentially on Joe Biden's side.
00:04:57.500 But number two. We know that Burisma, the Ukrainian natural gas company
00:05:07.200 that had Hunter Biden on the board at one period, it appears it paid him fifty thousand a month at
00:05:13.220 another period. It appears it paid him eighty three thousand a month when it was paying him fifty
00:05:19.100 thousand a month. You know what? Forty nine thousand nine hundred and ten dollars is really,
00:05:24.460 really close to. Really close to exactly what he was making from the board of Burisma monthly.
00:05:30.540 You know, it really is striking. If it is the case that Burisma, the Ukrainian natural gas company,
00:05:37.440 cut a check to Hunter Biden for fifty grand a month and then Hunter turned around and cut a check
00:05:42.140 for forty nine thousand nine hundred and ten dollars to daddy. You got to ask what kind of dad
00:05:50.060 makes his poor drug addict son keep ninety dollars of it. Yeah. Like it's one thing we all know the
00:05:58.760 phrase ten percent for the big guy. This is a lot more than ten percent. A lot more. But it's a great way
00:06:03.860 if you're wanting to funnel money, launder money. This is how you would pull this off. And look, you and I
00:06:11.740 have both probably done this a lot in our careers. When you see something that you think is to be to be
00:06:16.700 clear, funneled money, laundered money. Yeah. No, no. I wouldn't say a lot. A lot. Right. There you go.
00:06:21.860 But we when we hear stories like this that you want to go, there's no way you. I always look and you're a
00:06:28.700 lawyer, first and foremost, in your career. You probably said, all right, well, hold on a second.
00:06:34.140 If it was maybe it was an accident and he meant to put annual rent of forty nine thousand. Is that the number
00:06:39.200 that matches up with Joe Biden's tax return? And it was an accident. Right. Because you could technically do that.
00:06:45.380 It could be an accident. That number still doesn't match up. And that's where it gets very
00:06:50.620 interesting for me, Senator, is the fact that, look, it's not like he accidentally put in the
00:06:54.940 annual rent because I could believe a forty nine thousand nine hundred and ten for the year to
00:06:58.640 daddy for to live in his house in Delaware and say, Dad, I got to pay you something. But so you go to
00:07:03.020 you go to Joe Biden's tax returns. They were public. And again, so we have them when he was the vice
00:07:08.740 president. That number still doesn't match up and doesn't even come close to the number they reported
00:07:13.460 on his taxes, which goes back to the issue of funneling money. If you want to funnel money to
00:07:18.620 your dad and you got to give him some cash through your business dealings, this would be a brilliant
00:07:23.840 way of pulling this off. Well, and this is where we just need more facts. I don't want to jump to
00:07:30.000 conclusions. The document on its face says this was the monthly rent, but there's a weird coincidence
00:07:38.780 and that the number is exactly the same as another document indicates was the deposit for an office
00:07:46.600 at a place called Sweden House. Forty nine thousand nine hundred and ten dollars. That's a weird number.
00:07:53.680 And the fact that a one time deposit is the exact same number as what Hunter Biden indicated was his
00:08:00.120 monthly rent. It is possible. So I'm going to give the most benign explanation. This this if the White
00:08:06.240 House Spendmeisters are looking for a store to go with, this is probably the best one, which is
00:08:11.540 Hunter screwed up. He didn't know what he was doing. The guy has serious substance abuse issues,
00:08:17.820 so he filled out a bunch of stuff and it's all nonsense and false. And that might be true. I don't
00:08:22.440 know if it is or not. That's the most innocuous explanation, because if assuming this is a real
00:08:28.700 document and as I said, the White House has not disputed that. If it is the case that Hunter was paying
00:08:35.960 mom and dad 50 grand a month or just short of that to stay in their house, that is corruption
00:08:44.940 through and through. There's no other explanation. Let's be clear. If 50 grand a month went from
00:08:50.100 Hunter to Joe Biden in any operating justice system, Joe Biden should be indicted.
00:09:00.300 Well, right. And why don't you say that again? Because that's something I don't believe that
00:09:04.260 you've ever said before. And I want to make sure that everybody understands why you're saying what
00:09:09.100 you just said. OK, when Hunter Biden was on the board of Burisma, Joe Biden was the sitting vice
00:09:17.900 president of the United States. We've talked at great length on this podcast about how Burisma took
00:09:24.160 a drug using. Ne'er do well, son of the vice president who spoke no Ukrainian and knew nothing
00:09:33.580 about natural gas and put him on the board and paid him at one point fifty thousand a month
00:09:37.620 and another point eighty three thousand a month, despite the fact that he had no useful skills
00:09:42.980 other than daddy was vice president. Didn't speak the language and didn't work in the industry.
00:09:48.880 That screamed corruption on the face of it. But this is the other piece that makes it not just
00:09:57.400 corrupt in in the colloquial sense, but felonious. Look, a bribe is when you pay a government official
00:10:07.420 for an official act. You know, you look at the old old school style of putting 50 grand in a paper bag,
00:10:14.640 walking up to a government official and saying, here's 50 grand. Vote yes or no on the following
00:10:20.440 thing. That's a bribe. Remember abs scam? Yeah. Where they showed up with the briefcases full of cash.
00:10:25.720 In this case, you have a Ukrainian company owned by a corrupt Ukrainian oligarch paying Hunter Biden
00:10:35.300 50 grand a year. If he was turning around and giving that directly to daddy while daddy was the sitting
00:10:42.640 vice president leading Obama's Ukraine policy, that is bribery. And that is bribery that should come
00:10:50.100 with real jail time. Now, we don't have all of those pieces, but we have Hunter claiming
00:10:56.540 he was giving his dad just under 50 grand a year. If that is true, this the evidence of Biden family
00:11:06.860 corruption has jumped an order of magnitude higher. All right. I want to get your take on this, Senator.
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00:12:44.380 I just want to throw the numbers out there so people understand the basic math here. If Hunter Biden's
00:12:49.760 telling the truth, this would have mean that he paid, or as I would describe it, funneled $594,120
00:12:57.200 in rent in the months after Biden departed his role as the vice president in January of 2017.
00:13:04.940 Also, when it comes to these boxes and this document indicating he owned the Delaware home
00:13:11.400 where classified documents were being stored at the time, that brings up, Senator, the other part
00:13:16.220 of the story here. And that creates a lot of questions as to why was he paying rent at the
00:13:21.060 residence that he allegedly owned? And he had access to apparently these classified documents
00:13:27.200 based on what we know may very well have dealt with Ukraine. That brings up the special prosecutor
00:13:33.140 aspect of this. And again, to put it back into perspective, President Joe Biden, Senator,
00:13:39.160 only listed $19,800 in rents, rents plural, received in 2017. That is according to his tax returns that
00:13:50.840 year. The president then listed no rents received in 2018. So these are his tax returns. That's what he
00:13:59.480 had out there. Only that he got $19,800 in rents received in 2017. His son claims he owns the house
00:14:06.320 that he's paying rent at and he would have had access to the classified documents in the garage
00:14:12.780 while he was living there, while he was paying rent on the house he claims he owns. If there's
00:14:17.620 anything that seems screwed up but totally makes sense, it would be in the Biden family based on
00:14:22.800 now what we know. Well, you're right. And you made an important clarification there that is worth
00:14:27.440 noting on the face of this document. It says current residents and it gives a move in date and a move
00:14:34.080 out date and the move in date. It looks like initially he wrote one 2017 and then it looks
00:14:40.540 like it's crossed out and turned to three 2017. So let's assume it's March of 2017 and it puts the
00:14:48.080 move out date as February of 2018. So on the face of this, these payments of monthly rent started two
00:14:57.320 months after Joe Biden stepped down as vice president. So he wasn't technically being bribed
00:15:03.780 as a sitting vice president. But if it was the case that he was being paid $50,000 a month
00:15:10.620 if this was effectively money laundering from Ukrainian sources or elsewhere,
00:15:16.780 then it still raises a serious prospect. You can't bribe someone after the fact, particularly if
00:15:24.380 they had an expectation of receiving that bribe. Now, what's confusing about this
00:15:29.800 is that this document has at the top, it says current address, and that's where he lifts
00:15:39.080 lists Joe Biden's home address. And then it has below it, it says current residence. Now,
00:15:45.220 it's a strange document. I'm not sure what the difference is between current address and current
00:15:48.820 residents. And here, Hunter Biden has filled out something that says Owosco PC. And that's where
00:15:56.360 he says it's $49,910. So it is possible there's some business address and that money is not being
00:16:05.040 paid to mom and dad. But at the very minimum, a DOJ that gave a damn and cared about the law would be
00:16:14.900 investigating that and figuring out the answer to it. And even if the Biden Department of Justice
00:16:21.260 won't, I have every confidence that the House of Representatives is going to investigate this
00:16:27.220 thoroughly. How complicated, Senator, does this get from a standpoint of you have this investigation
00:16:32.160 into Hunter Biden, right, in Delaware. You don't have a special prosecutor involved. But now it's clear
00:16:38.860 that Hunter Biden is claiming that he had access and was living at the residence where these
00:16:44.380 classified documents, where we do have a special prosecutor involved, was that he would have
00:16:49.880 access to this. That would also mean that there would probably be a lot of the people that he was
00:16:54.800 around based on his laptop, shady individuals. We know from his own pictures and his own laptop and
00:17:01.540 his own book that he was meeting with the worst people in the world in the United States of America.
00:17:06.020 They were coming here. There were Russian oligarchs that were coming to America. There were people and
00:17:10.600 people that worked with the Chinese Communist Party and people that worked with the
00:17:13.740 intelligence community within the Chinese Communist Party that were coming and meeting with him in
00:17:18.460 America. We also know that he was meeting with people from Ukraine and leaders in Ukraine that
00:17:22.960 were meeting with him here in America. Imagine having these top secret documents where you're hanging
00:17:28.500 out and dealing with substance abuse issues. How do you not look at that if you're a special
00:17:34.680 prosecutor? And does the Delaware investigation into Hunter Biden have the ability to start asking and
00:17:41.160 connecting some of these dots? Are they just going to stay separate the entire time?
00:17:44.460 So, look, they certainly have the ability. And this is where the special counsel investigation
00:17:50.380 into Joe Biden potentially could expand as well. And we talked about previously on this podcast how
00:17:57.500 I'm concerned that the special counsel was Rod Rosenstein's right hand, was a protege of Chris
00:18:03.320 Ray, and that Merrick Garland put him in because he wanted a special counsel who would protect the White
00:18:08.800 House. I hope that's not the case. But that, given the behavior of the Biden DOJ, there is reason to
00:18:16.300 be deeply suspicious. I will say when it comes to the Hunter Biden issues, what we've discussed at
00:18:25.760 great length, it's not an issue of concern, public concern, that Hunter Biden is a troubled soul with
00:18:32.460 substance abuse issues. There are a great many people in the United States and on planet Earth that
00:18:37.460 struggle with those. What makes this a public concern is the connection that Hunter Biden, by all
00:18:43.920 appearances, had a business of selling access to daddy as a high government official, and not just access to
00:18:51.080 daddy to, say, some run-of-the-mill corporate lobbyist in Washington, that happens a lot in Washington, but
00:18:58.380 selling access to daddy to foreign nations, corrupt foreign oligarchs, whether in Ukraine or
00:19:05.420 communist China, and cashing out in the seven figures, cashing out in massive amounts. And,
00:19:12.960 you know, Ben, early on when we started Verdict, one of the things we talked about was the payments
00:19:18.780 from Burisma. And actually, I got a call from someone who was previously a very, very senior
00:19:24.980 official in the federal government. I'm going to keep him anonymous. But he had an insight, and he's
00:19:31.040 someone who's known Joe Biden 40-plus years. He said, look, even if not a penny of this money made
00:19:38.460 it to Joe Biden, when a parent has a ne'er-do-well child who's an adult child who's had enormous
00:19:46.200 challenges, that can be enormously expensive to that parent having to deal with all of the challenges
00:19:52.680 that adult child has. And so this former senior government official said, it's a massive benefit
00:20:00.440 to Joe Biden to just take the burden of Hunter Biden off his hands, to say, hey, we'll give him an income
00:20:06.500 stream so you, Joe, don't have to cover that. So that's an indirect way those millions of dollars
00:20:12.860 benefited Joe Biden. But if this application is accurate, then we're not just dealing with an
00:20:19.460 indirect benefit. We're dealing with Hunter Biden basically becomes the bag man, taking effectively
00:20:25.860 foreign money and delivering it to dad. This needs serious investigation. And if we had a functioning
00:20:34.340 press corps, every question at the White House press briefing tomorrow should be about this.
00:20:42.420 Would be about it. It wouldn't even be up for debate, but they're deliberately protecting this
00:20:46.020 White House at all costs. They are the Praetorian Guard. They are the defenders and the propagandists.
00:20:54.140 And in fact, some of the early stories on this are already, you know, they begin with, you know,
00:20:58.460 Republicans pounce. That's their favorite thing. Look, his own son claims he's paying him 50 grand a month,
00:21:06.080 or he was paying him 50 grand a month like that. There are two and only two options. That was a lie.
00:21:14.880 And we'll see if the White House goes there and says, oh, that's our story. Hunter Biden was just
00:21:19.700 lying. Or if he wasn't lying, that is corrupt. I believe there is zero innocent explanation
00:21:27.920 for Hunter Biden paying his father 50 grand a month in quote unquote rent. So if those payments happen,
00:21:37.660 we're talking serious criminal activity. If they didn't, if Hunter lied, we need to demonstrate that
00:21:43.980 with clear and real evidence. Well, it's exactly like you said earlier. And James Comer said this
00:21:48.580 on the House side, quote, many questions must be answered about the Biden's family influence peddling
00:21:53.080 and President Biden's mishandling of classified documents for his time as vice president. And I
00:21:58.980 think Comer said those two things together on purpose, saying these two are interconnected now.
00:22:04.480 You can't take them apart because the family members were at the residence during the time these
00:22:09.220 classified documents are there. And if you can connect these two, then Matt, we might actually
00:22:13.880 start to get some real answers here. Thank goodness that we, as you said many times, that the Republicans
00:22:18.880 got back control of the House because finally somebody is going to look in this. Lord knows
00:22:22.560 it's not going to be the media.
00:22:24.540 Canadian women are looking for more. More out of themselves, their businesses, their elected leaders,
00:22:29.560 and the world are out of them.
00:22:30.780 And that's why we're thrilled to introduce the Honest Talk podcast.
00:22:34.080 Which brings me, Senator, to another amazing story that's getting barely any attention, and
00:23:00.780 that is that the U.S. has been over-counting COVID deaths. Before I play this audio from CNN
00:23:10.440 with Dr. Nguyen, who used to be over at Planned Parenthood, that, you know, the U.S. has been
00:23:15.600 over-counting COVID deaths and hospitalization. Shocker there. I say this sarcastically. Are you
00:23:20.400 surprised at all by this? Because I was not. It was like, to me, I'm like, yep, of course, that's what
00:23:24.960 they were doing.
00:23:26.080 Yeah, no, look, I think it's clearly right. But go ahead and play the audio because the shocker
00:23:29.980 is seeing CNN say this out loud.
00:23:32.020 Yeah, and I'll set this up for everybody listening. This is Dr. Nguyen admitting to Don Lemon and
00:23:38.440 Poppy Harlow and whoever the other host is on their new morning show that no one watches.
00:23:43.740 By the way, I got to say, Ben, the fact that you worked at CNN for years was just demonstrated
00:23:48.740 by that because I certainly couldn't name who the people were she were talking to, and I'm
00:23:53.020 betting you're one of six people on planet Earth that could.
00:23:55.560 Yeah, I know. I got two out of three. That's like, I mean, that's MVP all-star status if
00:24:00.360 you're counting in sportsbooks. But you listen to this conversation, and you can tell it's
00:24:07.280 cringeworthy for all of them. Listen to Don Lemon's setup, and then listen to Dr. Nguyen's
00:24:12.980 response.
00:24:13.520 Talk about her op-ed. Doctor, thank you so much. Listen, I know that you don't want to, and we
00:24:20.720 don't want to underplay the risk of COVID after three years. It is still a leading cause of death
00:24:25.340 in this country. It's the story I just read about the number of deaths increasing. Can you explain,
00:24:30.300 and infections, can you explain why you believe COVID deaths are being over-counted?
00:24:36.780 I think it's important for us to be intellectually honest in this case,
00:24:40.440 and that includes recognizing that circumstances have changed. At the beginning of the pandemic,
00:24:45.600 we had a situation where there were many people dying from COVID pneumonia, including healthy
00:24:51.120 young people were dying because of severe shortness of breath, difficulty breathing. They were
00:24:55.440 hospitalized because of it. Then, as a result of vaccines, and as a result of a lot of people
00:25:01.460 getting COVID and having some level of immunity to it, we're seeing far fewer cases of that kind
00:25:07.360 of severe COVID, and severe COVID pneumonia specifically. And yet, hospitals are still routinely
00:25:13.340 testing everyone who's getting admitted for COVID. And so, we're seeing many people who are
00:25:18.360 hospitalized with COVID. And I think it's important to separate out who is being hospitalized because
00:25:23.980 of it, because there are a lot of people who are still very concerned about their risk from COVID,
00:25:29.860 and we need to give them the most accurate data possible so that they can better gauge their risks.
00:25:36.040 There are people who are still not resuming indoor dining or going to the gym or socializing,
00:25:40.200 and I think we have to give them the most accurate reporting possible.
00:25:43.640 I mean, Senator, that's one hell of an answer. We're fear-mongering still,
00:25:48.800 yet then we're telling you that we're over-counting COVID deaths and over-counting hospitalizations,
00:25:55.060 which means the death tracker before the presidential election was all propaganda,
00:26:01.020 so you wouldn't vote for Donald Trump.
00:26:03.640 Look, there are a number of things that scream out from that. Number one, what she's saying is
00:26:10.540 obviously and indisputably correct. Number two, it was obviously and indisputably correct two years
00:26:18.060 ago. At the height of the pandemic, when CNN was engaged in their pandemic porn every minute of the
00:26:25.980 day, screaming that we're all going to die from this, it was true then. And by the way, lots of people,
00:26:32.680 including you, including me, were making that point then. As I said on this podcast, there was a meme
00:26:40.360 I saw online that I thought was particularly funny, which is, woman eaten by great white shark
00:26:47.780 dies of COVID. It showed just how absurd it was that every death, you're in a car wreck, COVID killed
00:26:56.960 you. You stub your toe and get an infected ingrown toenail, COVID killed you. Whatever it was,
00:27:03.820 they wanted to blame it on COVID. You're 98 years old and dying of old age and you've got COVID,
00:27:09.600 COVID killed you. Mind you that you presumably weren't going to live forever. Otherwise,
00:27:13.460 it was COVID.
00:27:14.280 Well, we had, I mean, we had whistleblowers. We had, I'll give you a great example. In my hometown
00:27:18.240 of Memphis is St. Jude Children's Research Hospital and Le Bonheur, two great children's
00:27:23.540 hospitals. And they categorized some kids that passed away as COVID deaths. When the parents
00:27:30.200 came out and said to the media, this was several years ago now, my child died of cancer, did not die
00:27:38.340 of COVID. They, we knew they were terminal and they died of the cancer that weakened their body.
00:27:45.700 And then they categorized their deaths as COVID. And people were asking questions. Why are they
00:27:50.200 doing this? Why are they acting like even when a child's dying of cancer, which is horrific enough,
00:27:55.280 are you politicizing the reason for death on their death series? Yep. We're going to chalk that one up
00:28:00.480 to COVID as well. Well, one element of it was that, that, that there were significant financial
00:28:07.180 incentives to categorize hospitalizations or deaths as coming from COVID. And so I got to ask you the
00:28:15.420 question. I have to ask you because everybody else listening right now is asking the same thing.
00:28:19.260 The financial incentive center, was that money being paid by the insurance companies or was that
00:28:26.020 coming through the government or both? Because was this a money grab from, for tax dollars by
00:28:33.000 categorizing it as COVID? It was tax dollars. And, and to blame is both the administration
00:28:39.780 administration and, and, and Congress who, who in response to COVID, look, when, when, when the COVID
00:28:45.900 pandemic began, it was reasonable to be concerned. And if you were very elderly, if you were very
00:28:51.800 vulnerable, if you had cancer, if your immune system was compromised, that could be very dangerous. But
00:28:58.180 what happened is the media and the Democrats took what was a reasonable concern for people that were
00:29:08.180 very vulnerable. And from the beginning, we should have focused on protecting the very vulnerable. And they
00:29:13.280 used it as an excuse to restrict everybody else to restrict young, healthy people to go after kids. It
00:29:20.320 never made sense. If you were 98 years old and had cancer and immune issues, yes, you should have been
00:29:27.700 protected. But they deliberately cooked the books. And the thing that is so remarkable about CNN saying this is,
00:29:35.180 is Dr. Leanna Nguyen, she knew that then. It's not that these people are stupid. They knew it then.
00:29:43.420 But if you said it then... Well, and she was a CNN medical analyst back then, making a killing,
00:29:48.640 going on TV five times a day, telling you that you're going to kill grandma and die if you don't
00:29:54.820 get the vaccine, which will protect you from ever getting COVID when they knew that was a lie.
00:29:59.300 And denouncing people for saying what she just said right now. CNN treated you as a crazy tinfoil hat
00:30:06.940 wearing COVID denier if you made the obvious point that someone killed at a car wreck that has COVID
00:30:13.800 didn't die from COVID. That was treated as, oh, you crazy people, you know. And by the way, that's the
00:30:20.840 kind of thing Twitter was suppressing. Twitter was deplatforming at the request of the federal
00:30:28.140 government. This is where the Twitter files comes into it. This is all... It was a propaganda effort
00:30:34.460 from big tech, from big government, from the Democrats, from the corrupt corporate media.
00:30:41.660 And the consequences have been utterly devastating for the country. And I don't know how CNN can get
00:30:47.840 up and say, hey, you know, we've been lying to you for three years, but now we're not. Hey,
00:30:51.920 y'all's good. No one remembers that, right? It's easy because Don Lemon said, quote,
00:30:56.280 let's bring in Dr. Wynn to talk about her op-ed. Doctor, thank you so much. I don't want to,
00:31:04.300 you know, again, we don't want to underplay the risk of COVID after three years. It's still a leading
00:31:09.180 cause of death in this country. We just got rid of the death counters on TV because we like the guy
00:31:13.920 who's the president now. And then she says in her very first sentence, look, I think it's important
00:31:19.540 for us to be intellectually honest in this case. And she says it was different before. And you know
00:31:25.960 what the difference was? Donald Trump was president there. Yes, no matter how you died, it was because
00:31:31.560 of COVID. Even if you're still alive, you're probably going to die because of COVID. And the
00:31:34.840 only answer is elect Democrats. All right. I wasn't going to play this, Senator, but I have to let you
00:31:39.200 hear Don Lemon's follow-up question, right? Because you just said, she just kind of said, you know,
00:31:44.680 everybody calm down, but the still leading cause of death is COVID. Listen to the follow-up question
00:31:50.460 from Don Lemon carefully. You're going to love it. It's a quick follow. You're not suggesting that
00:31:54.000 hospitals stop checking people, testing people for COVID if they come in.
00:31:59.080 That's right. I think that there's a better way to do this. And actually one of the people that I
00:32:02.440 interviewed was Shira Duran, who is an infectious disease physician and hospital epidemiologist at
00:32:06.900 Tufts Medical Center. She and her colleagues came up with a different measure, which is using
00:32:12.120 dexamethasone. So dexamethasone is a steroid that's used to treat cases of severe COVID.
00:32:17.480 And she and her colleagues found that in cases of hospitalizations that do not involve dexamethasone,
00:32:23.740 it's very unlikely that the primary cause is COVID. And so the state of-
00:32:28.960 I mean, I just have to stop there. So she's actually saying the COVID test at this point in the hospital
00:32:34.380 should not be used and it's pretty much worthless. And we should actually use a drug
00:32:40.320 if it is administered to people as a way to count who actually died of COVID or had severeness
00:32:46.180 with COVID or with the ICU for COVID. Why didn't somebody say this a couple of years ago?
00:32:54.300 Because CNN would have taken you off air. They would have branded you a denier. They would have
00:33:00.080 treated you like a heretic. Social media would have banned you. And it would be one thing if CNN is
00:33:07.600 saying, okay, we were mistaken. We apologized. We thought we were right. We were operating under
00:33:13.160 limited information. But now we've learned. They don't admit any of that. There is no error. There
00:33:17.560 is no rearview mirror at CNN or MSNBC or any of the other corrupt corporate media. They've been lying
00:33:23.780 to you forever and ever and ever. And now they'll just shift and hope nobody remembers. And it's-
00:33:31.600 there is a reason the American people have so much distrust in institutions. And it's because
00:33:39.460 today's institutions that used to have some modicum of integrity are utterly broken and they are
00:33:47.800 willing to lie and they bear no responsibility. The Washington Post and the New York Times won Pulitzer
00:33:54.760 Prizes for reporting stories that were based on a fraud about the alleged Trump-Russia collusion.
00:34:04.040 And they never took the awards back, by the way.
00:34:05.520 They never took the awards back. They never apologized for it. There is no shame. CNN doesn't
00:34:11.360 feel a moment of shame airing this story saying we lied to you for two years, but this is CNN.
00:34:17.760 Well, hey, I will say this. I listen to this crap so other people don't have to. And that's
00:34:22.840 why I say, Senator, they're the best for last. Because there's many of you that may be asking
00:34:26.820 the same question I was asking, which is, okay, when it deals with these hospitalizations for COVID,
00:34:31.400 my question is, right, how much have they been overstating COVID? You ready? Because she's going
00:34:37.740 to give you a glimpse into just how overstated COVID may be actually being counted in hospitals.
00:34:45.000 Here is her definition of it. And then I want to get your reaction.
00:34:48.780 Massachusetts actually turned to use this measure. So they're reporting both the total
00:34:53.860 hospitalizations with COVID, as well as the total hospitalizations with dexamethasone,
00:34:59.380 which are the hospitalizations for which COVID is the primary cause. And they found that about 30%
00:35:05.020 of the current hospitalizations are actually for COVID, as opposed to 70% with COVID.
00:35:11.680 Can we just stop there, Senator? She just told America, obviously, at the very end of the
00:35:19.040 interview, which should have been the lead, right? If you're being intellectually honest,
00:35:22.940 to quote her, you would have come on TV and said, in a shocking Massachusetts COVID tracking,
00:35:29.300 patients primarily hospitalized for COVID is completely different than what the number of
00:35:34.740 hospital patients with coronavirus actually is in America. How big of a difference? We're talking
00:35:41.280 about 70 all the way down to 30%. That's how wrong we've been getting it for three years. And they
00:35:47.940 waited till the very end to just slide that in there for you, the real info and the number you
00:35:52.980 needed to hear. Yeah, look, what she's admitting is that for three years, the deaths have been wildly
00:35:58.040 exaggerated. For three years, the hospitalizations have been wildly exaggerated. It's been deliberate.
00:36:04.180 It's been done by government. It's been done by Dr. Fauci. It's been done by the corrupt corporate
00:36:08.760 media. It's been done by big tech. It's been done to the enormous profit of big pharma who is in bed
00:36:15.900 with everyone here. And it has been done with everyone knowing they were lying to you. And part of the way
00:36:22.560 they get away lying to you. You may wonder why is the Democrat Party and the corrupt corporate media so
00:36:31.300 invested in censorship? Why do they hate Elon Musk so much? Because if you are going to make it a
00:36:38.440 business model to lie to the American people, the biggest threat to you is that someone will shine
00:36:45.080 sunlight and tell the truth. They knew they were lying. And they know it today. It wasn't accidental.
00:36:53.860 It was deliberate. Yeah. And if you think, by the way, that this is just going to end, I'll end very
00:36:59.580 quickly with this story. The 11th Circuit of Appeals heard arguments over a federal mask mandate on
00:37:06.780 Tuesday after a Florida federal judge struck down a mask mandate for planes and other transportation last
00:37:13.060 April. The CDC quickly countered by requesting an appeal through the Justice Department. That appeal drew
00:37:20.660 criticism from the U.S. Travel Association, which along with other industry groups have been pressuring
00:37:25.700 the Biden administration for months to end the mask mandate for travel. We don't have the mask mandate
00:37:30.580 for travel right now. There's not a bunch of people that are dying because of this. If we if we had
00:37:35.060 gotten it wrong, it would have clearly played out by now. Yet this administration is still refusing to
00:37:41.020 just say, OK, fine, let's walk away from this. They still want to fight and still have the power to tell you
00:37:47.760 to put a mask on while you're traveling. Look, no rational or sane person following the evidence
00:37:56.180 in science supports a mask mandate for airplanes for everyone. Remember, these are the people that
00:38:03.240 want forced you to put your two year old children in masks or threw families off planes because their
00:38:08.160 two year old was crying rather than be masked. It is indefensible. And by the way, let me be clear.
00:38:13.580 Number one, I'm on planes every week. I spend a lot of time on a lot of airplanes. Right now, today,
00:38:19.920 there are fewer than 20 percent of the passengers wearing masks. In many instances, it's 10 percent or
00:38:25.800 less. It varies on if you're flying to some bright blue city, it may get as high as 20 percent, but it's
00:38:31.220 usually much lower than that. Number two, Democrats don't wear masks in the Senate. Democrats don't wear
00:38:42.320 masks. They don't wear masks in big groups. They don't wear masks in small groups.
00:38:47.740 Only the most sort of I actually when I walk through airports and I see the people wearing masks,
00:38:53.900 unless someone is is frail and ill. I understand someone if you're taking your grandmother and
00:38:58.920 she's, you know, she's really frail and you want to protect her that that's reasonable. Or maybe
00:39:03.080 someone has a disease that makes them vulnerable. I that I'm all for take steps, protect yourself if you
00:39:08.840 have a medical condition that makes you vulnerable to all sorts of things, including the cold or flu.
00:39:15.080 But when you see young, healthy people wearing masks, when you see and you do sometimes see now
00:39:21.580 parents that put little kids in masks, you just wonder, OK, what is it going through your head
00:39:26.900 that makes you want to do this to your children, to your family? Are you are you that scared?
00:39:33.180 Do you believe what the propaganda so much? Are you just so addicted to to virtue signaling that that
00:39:40.680 that it is your it is like your gay pride flag? You got to show that that you're virtue.
00:39:47.320 But the amazing thing is, look, when the federal court struck down the the mask mandate on planes,
00:39:54.040 you and I both saw the videos that were taken spontaneously on all sorts of people's phones
00:39:59.500 of passengers just cheering aloud and pulling their masks off.
00:40:05.600 And yet yesterday, the Biden administration was in the federal court of appeals arguing,
00:40:12.800 we want the power to reimpose the mask mandate. We want that. We don't want to give it up.
00:40:18.500 At the same time, Biden's trying to victory lap. COVID is over.
00:40:23.760 So they want power. They want power to arbitrarily infringe your life.
00:40:29.880 And yet they want to claim to have also solved the crisis. And it's part of why
00:40:35.880 you're seeing CNN acknowledge the deaths are exaggerated. Why? Because they want the Democrats
00:40:41.200 to get credit for it. Yeah. See, you know, the start in charge and they want to believe that
00:40:46.060 they're the ones that somehow fixed all your problems. And this is the biggest problem they're
00:40:49.460 fixing right now. And by the way, it's the same way to get into a different topic.
00:40:54.560 They cook the numbers on global warming. So if you look at the numbers on global warming,
00:40:59.320 they adjust the temperatures from long ago down. They adjust the temperatures from today up. And then
00:41:05.660 they say, gosh, look, that the temperatures we've adjusted up are higher than the temperatures we
00:41:10.680 adjusted down. Look at what's going on. When you cook the books, you can get the results you want.
00:41:16.320 In this case now, they want to show that Biden and the Democrats have cured COVID. And one of the
00:41:22.600 best ways to do it is, well, if we can magically reduce hospitalizations by 70 percent, by suddenly
00:41:28.460 acknowledging what was true three years ago, then voila, through the power of crooked bookkeeping,
00:41:38.620 the Democrats have solved everything.
00:41:40.560 Well, and that scary part is one day when the government's going to really ask a favor of the
00:41:44.800 American people that's based in fact. No one's going to want to listen to them. Senator,
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