Verdict with Ted Cruz - Hunter Indictment Designed to Protect Joe, plus Massive Victory for 9⧸11 Families

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00:00:05.340 Welcome.

00:00:06.280 It is The Verdict with Senator Ted Cruz, Ben Ferguson with you.

00:00:09.880 And the big breaking news is obviously about the indictment obsession over Hunter Biden.

00:00:17.300 Now, Senator, this one actually makes me angry.

00:00:20.700 You've talked about this and really predicted it on this show a long time ago,

00:00:26.000 that the whole reason why they were doing that plea agreement on the gun crime

00:00:30.700 is that insulated the president.

00:00:33.120 And it was the perfect crime to charge Hunter Biden with in that sweetheart plea deal

00:00:38.260 because it insulated and you couldn't connect any dots to the presidency

00:00:42.340 or the Biden crime family with all the money going in and out of accounts

00:00:46.240 and the suspicious activity reports.

00:00:48.800 Sure enough, the same guy that gave him the sweetheart deal,

00:00:52.000 who's now the special prosecutor who's indicting him is going after the first thing,

00:00:57.820 the gun crime. 0.96

00:00:58.840 I mean, you can't write the script any more ridiculous than this. 0.97

00:01:02.440 And yet here we are. 0.96

00:01:04.000 Well, sadly, that is correct.

00:01:05.600 The special counsel, David Weiss, we've talked about that when Merrick Garland appointed him,

00:01:11.400 it was illegal under the DOJ rules.

00:01:14.460 A special counsel has to be outside the DOJ.

00:01:17.200 But the reason that I believe that David Weiss was appointed special counsel

00:01:21.380 is because he had already demonstrated he would give a sweetheart deal to Hunter Biden.

00:01:25.920 He'd already demonstrated that he was willing to be complicit in the obstruction of justice at DOJ

00:01:31.120 to, number one, prevent investigation into the more serious crimes from Hunter Biden,

00:01:36.140 and more importantly, to block any investigation into the big guy, into Joe Biden.

00:01:42.000 And that is the most important objective in the heavily politicized Biden DOJ.

00:01:48.640 Now, on Wednesday, David Weiss, the special counsel,

00:01:52.700 filed a pleading in the United States District Court for the District of Delaware,

00:01:58.000 stating that he intends to indict Hunter Biden.

00:02:01.700 But what he intends to indict Hunter Biden about is a gun crime.

00:02:05.860 Now, at this point, as we're discussing it, we don't know the details of exactly what that indictment will hold.

00:02:12.920 But what we know is the gun crime is a crime that is uniquely limited to Hunter.

00:02:19.880 There's no connection to Joe.

00:02:21.620 There's no connection to Joe's corruption.

00:02:24.180 There's no connection to bribery from Joe.

00:02:26.520 There's no connection to Ukrainian oligarchs paying Hunter for access to Joe.

00:02:32.080 There's no connection to Ukrainian oligarchs or Russian oligarchs or Chinese communist officials

00:02:37.840 paying Hunter for specific official favors from Joe Biden.

00:02:43.640 Instead, the gun crime is a personal crime.

00:02:47.560 And the talking point of the Democrats, the talking point of the media is,

00:02:52.360 listen, Hunter Biden is a troubled soul with substance abuse problems.

00:02:59.640 And he's struggling.

00:03:02.760 I got to say, looking at this, the gun crime is not the reason the public cares about Hunter Biden.

00:03:11.520 The reason this is a matter of public concern is the official corruption of the then Vice President of the United States

00:03:19.720 and today the President of the United States.

00:03:22.060 And trying to trumpet, look how tough we are.

00:03:26.960 We're going against Hunter for the gun crime, especially given that David Weiss already negotiated the sweetheart deal.

00:03:34.000 And by the way, his initial proposal is Hunter Biden doesn't plead guilty to anything of significance.

00:03:39.180 His second proposal was Hunter Biden pleads guilty to criminal offenses but serves not a day in jail.

00:03:45.340 So this third iteration, I don't know, maybe it has some mild jail time.

00:03:50.240 But it is designed, consistent with the pattern, to protect Joe Biden.

00:03:55.860 And that is the overarching objective, I believe, of the incredibly politicized Biden DOJ.

00:04:01.720 You look at the DOJ, and we've also mentioned this before, but I want to take a moment to remind people.

00:04:07.080 If you're a lawyer, and put your lawyer hat on for a second for us and explain this,

00:04:13.440 if you're sitting in a room and you see all these crimes that they could investigate,

00:04:19.180 and you see all the things that could tie you to the White House, could tie you to the presidency,

00:04:25.000 could tie you to different whistleblowers, the IRS, the FBI, everything that's come out,

00:04:30.400 and then you said, okay, we've got to give them something.

00:04:32.940 So you pick, and again, I'm saying this from the standpoint of a Hunter Biden lawyer,

00:04:39.540 we sit in a room and we pick the charges we want against our guy.

00:04:43.240 Would you have picked this charge as well because it has none of those things that you're really worried about in it?

00:04:49.660 Sure. It is uniquely focused on Hunter personally.

00:04:54.960 There's no arguable connection with Joe Biden.

00:05:00.100 It insulates Joe Biden.

00:05:01.520 So, for example, there's no indictment.

00:05:05.120 There appears to be no even meaningful investigation over Hunter Biden's text message on the WhatsApp app

00:05:13.620 to a senior Chinese communist official where he says,

00:05:18.360 quote, I'm sitting here with my father, and we would like to understand why the commitment made has not been fulfilled.

00:05:25.960 Tell the director that I would like to resolve this now before it gets out of hand,

00:05:29.720 and now means tonight.

00:05:32.100 I will make certain that between the man sitting next to me, in other words, Joe Biden,

00:05:36.460 and every person he knows, and my ability to forever hold a grudge,

00:05:40.720 that you will regret not following my direction.

00:05:43.940 I am sitting here waiting for the call with my father.

00:05:49.300 Now, that is direct evidence of Hunter Biden shaking down a Chinese communist official for millions of dollars

00:05:57.680 and threatening retaliation from Joe Biden, then the sitting vice president of the United States.

00:06:03.820 If they brought an indictment for that, that would be a serious legal, political, and even existential peril for Joe Biden.

00:06:12.140 So, of course, David Weiss, operating as the political protector in the Biden DOJ, is not going to bring that.

00:06:21.160 Instead, he's going to bring a gun crime, which is specific to Hunter.

00:06:25.700 And remember, the question to ask in each of these instances is, are they focused on Hunter,

00:06:31.840 or are they willing to address Joe, which is the real matter of public concern?

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00:08:11.660 Senator, you mentioned that Weiss filed this paperwork,

00:08:15.320 and that's when everybody, of course, lost their mind.

00:08:17.360 Oh, finally, Hunter Biden's going to get indicted.

00:08:19.760 I rolled my eyes at it.

00:08:21.100 You basically did as well.

00:08:22.820 What does this say moving forward?

00:08:25.500 And is there any hope that he might actually charge Hunter with other crimes?

00:08:29.940 Or if this is what he's leading with,

00:08:31.880 is this kind of probably going to be most of what we're going to get out of him?

00:08:35.420 In all likelihood, yes.

00:08:39.240 Look, we've covered it in this podcast how initially David Weiss and the Biden Department of Justice

00:08:46.000 wanted to cut a deal with Hunter Biden where he doesn't plead guilty to any serious crimes,

00:08:51.200 where he gets off scot-free on everything.

00:08:53.220 And when there began to be some attention on this,

00:08:58.160 in particular what happened when the IRS whistleblowers came forward, 0.93

00:09:02.080 they realized, oh, crap, we can't be that transparently political.

00:09:07.460 So they reached agreement number two, the Sweetheart Agreement,

00:09:10.640 where Hunter would plead guilty to a couple of misdemeanor charges,

00:09:15.240 and the gun charge, which is the more serious charge,

00:09:19.200 would be placed in deferred adjudication,

00:09:21.260 and he would serve zero jail time, not get a felony conviction,

00:09:24.580 and he would have complete exoneration for any and all conduct.

00:09:28.820 That includes corruption and bribery concerning Burisma in Ukraine.

00:09:32.940 That includes corruption and bribery concerning Russia.

00:09:36.080 That includes corruption and bribery concerning communist China.

00:09:39.820 Those are the serious charges.

00:09:41.920 And the Biden Department of Justice entered a sweetheart deal

00:09:44.920 where they said, we'll give you a pass on everything.

00:09:48.420 Well, what happened is they filed that sweetheart deal.

00:09:52.560 They expected it to be rubber-stamped by the judge,

00:09:55.580 but then the IRS whistleblowers went and testified before the United States Congress,

00:10:00.140 testified before the House.

00:10:01.680 Then one of the whistleblowers went on national television, on CBS, 0.96

00:10:05.460 and people looked at this and said, holy crap, this stuff is serious. 0.96

00:10:08.760 This is real corruption. 0.98

00:10:10.820 This is corruption that implicates the President of the United States,

00:10:13.560 and I think what happened is the Biden DOJ realized this slap on the wrist.

00:10:19.440 We can't give Hunter a get-out-of-jail-free pass

00:10:24.580 for any and all criminal conduct in exchange for zero time in jail.

00:10:30.920 And they still showed up in federal court hoping to push the plea agreement through.

00:10:37.860 But when the judge asked them, is there a chance you might still indict Hunter for something else,

00:10:44.860 they were forced to say yes.

00:10:47.580 Not in fact because they were investigating Hunter.

00:10:49.620 I don't believe they are investigating Hunter.

00:10:51.360 I don't believe they want to know what else Hunter did.

00:10:54.000 Instead, I think they said yes because given the hearings in the House of Representatives,

00:10:59.300 given the whistleblowers, they knew that saying, no, we're not even investigating,

00:11:03.920 we don't even care if the President of the United States is shaking down foreign nationals for bribes,

00:11:09.940 that was untenable.

00:11:11.480 That was the sweetheart plea deal that ultimately got thrown out of court.

00:11:17.680 And now I think the special counsel is going back and trying to enter some variant.

00:11:22.900 We'll see the details of it.

00:11:24.360 And as I said, it may involve some nominal jail time.

00:11:28.440 But this critical question, and we've discussed this for months and months and months on this pod,

00:11:33.540 if the prosecution involves purely personal conduct by Hunter,

00:11:40.380 if it involves drug possession, if it involves the gun crime,

00:11:43.960 if it involves things that Hunter did on his own that only implicate a poor,

00:11:49.660 substance-abusing and addicted child of the President,

00:11:54.240 then it is a political smokescreen.

00:11:57.180 Because the reason you've got the U.S. Department of Justice focused on this

00:12:02.060 is because this fact pattern seriously implicates official corruption by the President of the United States.

00:12:10.440 And any prosecution, any indictment that ignores the evidence of corruption by the President of the United States

00:12:18.960 is, I believe, designed to protect the President of the United States.

00:12:22.800 Yeah, don't be bamboozled over this.

00:12:24.900 And that's the main point here.

00:12:26.160 If they're going to do it this way, do not celebrate this.

00:12:29.240 And I promise you the media is going to try to hoodwink you on this.

00:12:31.800 They're going to do big breaking news coverage.

00:12:34.840 This is shock.

00:12:35.800 Oh my gosh, he's been indicted.

00:12:37.720 And they're hoping that will suffice.

00:12:40.040 And they can say, see, he was held accountable.

00:12:42.000 That's the game plan here.

00:12:43.800 And by the way, by the way, remember, this is also designed for parody.

00:12:48.920 See, we indicted a Biden.

00:12:51.060 Now we can indict Trump four times and go after him and try to ban him from the ballot

00:12:55.500 and end the presidential elections because we indicted Hunter for a slap on the wrist for a personal crime.

00:13:02.340 Yeah.

00:13:02.840 And again, be ready for this because it's going to come and it's going to be absurd the way they do it.

00:13:08.020 But this is how they're going to do it.

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00:13:40.740 I want to move to something else, Senator, that we really led the way on this issue, getting out.

00:13:47.840 And then the listeners did an amazing job of sharing.

00:13:52.160 It was one of the biggest podcasts I think we've ever done together.

00:13:55.680 And it dealt with the issue of 9-11.

00:13:59.400 You issued a statement afterwards, and that also went viral.

00:14:04.700 And you have a news statement, an update I want you to tell me about tonight.

00:14:07.880 This goes back to that letter that the DOJ, or I should say the DOD, sent out to families, victims of 9-11.

00:14:16.800 And they were letting them know in a heads up that we were probably going to do a plea deal with Khalid Sheikh Mohammed

00:14:22.920 and I think it was three or four other terrorists at Guantanamo Bay.

00:14:26.140 Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, we went through the history of who he is.

00:14:28.500 The mastermind of 9-11, but also killed many other people and many other attacks around the world.

00:14:33.440 Innocent children, women, etc.

00:14:35.940 And they were going to do a deal to spare him the death penalty so we could get him out of Gitmo and then close down Gitmo.

00:14:42.220 That's the ultimate goal for the DOD and the Biden administration.

00:14:46.560 We now have an update.

00:14:47.740 Because of the outrage of so many listeners of this show and others and that story going viral, it looks like they're not going to get away with it.

00:14:56.400 That's exactly right.

00:14:57.520 And I want to take a minute to thank the listeners of Verdict, because I actually think you guys made a real difference in something that matters enormously in this country,

00:15:08.240 which is, as we discussed on this podcast, the Biden administration sent out letters to the families of the victims who were murdered on September 11th and said,

00:15:20.760 Hey, we're contemplating a plea deal where Khalid Sheikh Mohammed and other conspirators behind the mass murder on September 11th would be spared the death penalty. 0.86

00:15:32.400 They'd get life in prison.

00:15:33.540 They would be exempted from capital punishment.

00:15:35.940 Despite the fact that they committed an act of war, despite the fact that they killed nearly 3,000 people, we'd spare them.

00:15:44.220 And, you know, when they sent this letter, it was initially getting almost no press coverage.

00:15:50.320 No one was covering it.

00:15:51.300 No one was discussing it.

00:15:53.180 ABC didn't discuss it at the 6 o'clock news.

00:15:55.580 NBC didn't discuss it.

00:15:56.880 CBS didn't discuss it.

00:15:58.260 CNN didn't discuss it.

00:15:59.540 MSNBC didn't discuss it.

00:16:01.560 The entire corporate media ignored it.

00:16:04.380 And you and I were so outraged by it that we sat down to do our pod.

00:16:09.900 And we actually had three topics.

00:16:11.160 This was topic number one.

00:16:12.220 We had two other topics.

00:16:13.780 And we ended up deciding, you know what?

00:16:15.720 The entire podcast is going to focus on this issue on September 11th, on the horrific terrorist attack that came after America, on what it meant, and on the outrage.

00:16:27.400 Listen, the Biden administration, and we talked about in that podcast.

00:16:30.940 And by the way, you ought to go back and listen to that podcast.

00:16:32.740 You can go back and find we did a full podcast on this September 11th effort of the Biden administration to spare the mastermind of September 11th.

00:16:42.200 But I believe this is part and parcel of the Biden administration's effort to essentially abolish the federal death penalty.

00:16:49.580 And before Joe Biden leaves the White House, I think he is going to pardon or commute the sentences of every single federal death penalty prisoner, including the racist lunatic who murdered nine African Americans at the Mother Emanuel Church in Charleston, South Carolina, including multiple vicious terrorists and murderers.

00:17:15.820 But as a result of this podcast, we focused the entire 30 minutes of the pod on the facts behind it.

00:17:24.960 And we asked you, we said, if you're outraged, pick up the phone, call your House member, call your senator, call the White House and say, do not spare the September 11th mastermind.

00:17:37.060 Well, we were about the only people shining a light on this and it ended up people got worked up, which is good.

00:17:43.380 They should have been worked up. We were worked up. It was wrong. It was outrageous. It was astonishing what they're doing.

00:17:48.920 Well, I got to say on on Wednesday, the administration came out and announced that it was not going to accept the plea deal.

00:17:57.080 And here's what prosecutors said in the filing, quote, the administration declined to declines to accept the terms of the proposed joint policy principles offered by the accused in the military commission's case, United States versus Mohammed et al.

00:18:11.560 And so I think that is a real victory verdict listeners ought to ought to feel proud of.

00:18:19.040 Now, to be clear, the Biden administration gave gave themselves some wiggle room so they may go back and take the deal, but they at least filed a court pleading saying they're rejecting the deal.

00:18:30.760 That's a major victory was only the political pressure that came and that political pressure was generated in very significant respect by the listeners of this podcast. 0.98

00:18:41.560 But my view is the bastards that attacked America, that murdered nearly 3000 Americans, they ought to be prosecuted. 0.99

00:18:49.440 They ought to be sentenced to death and they ought to be executed because I think it's a matter of justice that people that committed horrific terrorist attacks on America, they should face the ultimate punishment. 0.99

00:19:01.180 But the only way we'll be sure that happens is if the American people hold this administration to account and if they're too embarrassed and ashamed to let these guys off.

00:19:13.080 My next question for you is this is this just a pause and delay strategy, Senator, and do we have to keep monitoring them or does this put this to bed, especially for the victims and the families that were affected by 9-11?

00:19:29.640 They got these these, you know, I would say horrific letters from the Department of Defense saying that they may spare these guys lives after these men trained and did all that they did to kill their family members.

00:19:42.500 Well, we don't know entirely what we know is that the prisoners not only wanted to be spared the death penalty, but they wanted the Department of Defense to accept a guarantee that they would not serve their sentences in solitary confinement.

00:19:57.900 And that would allow them to eat and pray with other prisoners in Guantanamo Bay.

00:20:03.680 They also wanted a civilian run program to treat brain disorders, to treat sleep disorders and to treat gastrointestinal damage that they say the CIA caused during investigations.

00:20:16.580 That's the demand the Biden administration turned down.

00:20:20.360 There is a tiny bit of wiggle room that they could come back and say, OK, we're not going to give you those concessions, but we are going to take the death penalty off the table.

00:20:33.320 And and one of the key reasons, I think I think there are two things going on in the Biden administration.

00:20:38.560 One, these left wing radicals are ideologically opposed to the death penalty.

00:20:45.280 They don't want anyone executed ever.

00:20:47.260 They want to essentially repeal the federal death penalty.

00:20:49.560 Now, they don't want to go through the constitutional process of supporting legislation in Congress, trying to get the votes and repealing it as a matter of law.

00:20:58.280 They just want to say we, the executive branch, are going to refuse to enforce the death penalty and in fact are going to commute or pardon anyone convicted of the most egregious offenses in the country.

00:21:10.400 I think a second objective, and again, we talked about this at length on the prior pod on this topic, is they want to close Guantanamo.

00:21:20.380 And listen, when it comes to foreign policy, the Biden administration is a press release administration.

00:21:26.680 In other words, they don't follow coherent foreign policy objectives.

00:21:31.340 They don't have a strategic vision for defending this nation.

00:21:35.440 Instead, they want a simple press release that lets them trumpet their moral virtue.

00:21:40.900 So, in Afghanistan, you know, you ask yourself, why was the surrender to the Taliban, the withdrawal from Afghanistan, so utterly incompetent in such a disaster?

00:21:52.220 A big part of the reason is the Biden White House viewed it as, hey, we want to be out of there by September 11th, because then we can show how virtuous we are that we withdrew from the war by September 11th.

00:22:05.280 The problem is, when the military said, okay, if we leave that early, we need sufficient troops to maintain Bagram Air Force Base and also maintain Kabul Airport.

00:22:15.580 And the Biden White House said, nope, nope, we don't care.

00:22:18.140 Pull them out.

00:22:18.820 Abandon Bagram Air Force Base.

00:22:20.280 We don't need a secure airfield.

00:22:21.540 We haven't evacuated anyone.

00:22:23.180 We haven't evacuated Americans. 0.60

00:22:24.460 We haven't evacuated the Afghans who assisted us.

00:22:27.060 But we have a press release to issue.

00:22:30.260 So ignore the national security imperatives.

00:22:33.220 Let's issue our press release.

00:22:34.320 I think in the case of Gitmo, their objective is the same.

00:22:38.140 They want a press release saying we are closing Gitmo.

00:22:40.840 In order to do that, they've got to remove the most dangerous terrorists from Gitmo.

00:22:45.040 In order to do that, they have to send them to prisons in the continental United States.

00:22:50.560 And in order to do that, they either have to get a conviction or get a plea deal.

00:22:54.060 And so I think part of the reason they want the plea deal is to shut Gitmo because they get a good press release from it.

00:23:00.160 But I think the listeners of verdicts and millions of Americans stood up and said no and hell no.

00:23:07.600 Yeah, it's especially this close to 9-11.

00:23:10.780 It's so vitally important that we have this victory and especially for those family members that are victims all over again when they got this letter.

00:23:18.420 And like you said, thank you to all you that listen for picking up that phone and standing up and saying no and calling your elected official.

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00:24:57.800 Senator, I also want to ask you about another issue, and that deals with the issue of climate.

00:25:03.900 Climate change has become, obviously, an election year issue, at least for the Democrats.

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00:25:10.740 They're kind of testing things.

00:25:12.100 They're really pushing things here.

00:25:13.720 But now we're finding out how academia deceives people about climate change.

00:25:20.480 And this is something that I think is not just disingenuous, but it's really disgusting.

00:25:26.960 They put out a new report that has actually come out, and they say that there's a new prediction

00:25:33.080 that 1 billion deaths will happen from climate change this century, so you better get on board.

00:25:41.240 Researchers from Canada and Australia have published this new study predicting 1 billion deaths

00:25:47.360 from climate change over the next 100 years, citing a scientific, quote, consensus.

00:25:51.940 The authors analyze, they say, 180 studies on climate change and mortality, covering on a 1,000-ton rule.

00:25:59.580 So this is a new theory, which means for every 1,000 tons of fossil fuels burned, a person dies.

00:26:05.760 Now, this article was published, and it contends that a future person, a future person is killed

00:26:11.640 every time humanity burns 1,000 tons of fossil carbon.

00:26:16.500 They say, based on that calculation, that burning a trillion tons of fossil carbon will cause 2 degrees Celsius

00:26:23.560 of global warming, or AGW, which in turn, they say, will cause roughly a billion future premature deaths

00:26:31.720 spread over a period of very roughly one century.

00:26:35.460 I wish they used this type of logic when they were talking about unborn children that are killed,

00:26:40.640 but of course they'll never do that. 0.92

00:26:42.140 But this might be the most ridiculous, fear-mongering article, and they say it's a scientific consensus now.

00:26:49.620 Well, look, there is an enormous problem with the politicization of science, 0.73

00:26:55.420 and particularly when it concerns climate change, the dishonesty of science.

00:27:00.040 I'm going to make a radical claim right now.

00:27:02.060 Now, I predict with absolute certainty that 7 billion people alive today will die in the next 100 years of climate change.

00:27:14.040 Now, mind you, there are a little over 7 billion people alive today,

00:27:17.580 and it is a virtual certainty that all of us will die in the next 100 years.

00:27:23.120 And whether there was climate change or not, that assertion is unquestionably true.

00:27:27.680 It just is utterly disingenuous to claim it's climate change that will cause it.

00:27:34.680 Let me focus on, there was an article that came out on September 5th from a guy named Patrick Brown.

00:27:41.900 Now, Patrick Brown is a Ph.D. climate scientist,

00:27:48.400 and he is the co-director of the Climate and Energy Team at the Breakthrough Institute.

00:27:54.680 And he wrote an article in the Free Press that I think is really consequential.

00:27:59.700 I want to just read from you the beginning of the article.

00:28:02.540 Quote,

00:28:02.900 Here's the AP, quote,

00:28:15.620 Climate change keeps making wildfires and smoke worse.

00:28:19.920 Scientists call it the new abnormal.

00:28:22.600 From PBS NewsHour, quote,

00:28:25.460 Wildfires driven by climate change are on the rise.

00:28:29.320 Spain must do more to prepare, experts say.

00:28:32.440 And from the New York Times,

00:28:34.640 How climate change turned lush Hawaii into a tinderbox.

00:28:40.120 And from Bloomberg,

00:28:41.180 Quote,

00:28:42.940 Maui fires show climate change's ugly reach.

00:28:46.920 Now, here's Dr. Brown continuing from this.

00:28:50.220 Quote,

00:28:51.020 I am a climate scientist.

00:28:53.460 And while climate change is an important factor affecting wildfires over many parts of the world,

00:28:59.700 it isn't close to the only factor that deserves our sole focus.

00:29:03.740 So why does the press focus so intently on climate change as the root cause?

00:29:08.420 Perhaps for the same reasons,

00:29:10.240 I just did in an academic paper about wildfires in Nature,

00:29:17.040 one of the world's most prestigious journals.

00:29:20.500 It fits a simple storyline that rewards the person telling it.

00:29:26.160 The paper I just published,

00:29:28.160 Climate Warming Increases Extreme Daily Wildfire Growth Risk in California,

00:29:34.640 focuses exclusively on how climate change has affected extreme wildfire behavior.

00:29:40.100 I knew not to try to quantify key aspects other than climate change in my research,

00:29:47.160 because it would dilute the story that prestigious journals like Nature and its rival Science want to tell.

00:29:53.980 This matters because it is critically important for scientists to be published in high-profile journals.

00:30:00.580 In many ways, they are the gatekeepers for career success in academia.

00:30:05.200 And the editors of these journals have made it abundantly clear,

00:30:09.420 both by what they publish and what they reject,

00:30:13.000 that they want climate papers that support certain pre-approved narratives,

00:30:18.600 even when those narratives come at the expense of broader knowledge for society.

00:30:23.800 To put it bluntly,

00:30:27.560 climate science has become less about understanding the complexities of the world

00:30:32.420 and more about serving as a kind of Cassandra, 0.98

00:30:37.680 urgently warning the public about the dangers of climate change.

00:30:41.600 However understandable this instinct may be,

00:30:45.160 it distorts a great deal of climate science research,

00:30:49.900 misinforms the public,

00:30:51.000 and most importantly makes practical solutions more difficult to achieve.

00:30:59.100 This is a stunning indictment of the machinery and apparatus around quote-unquote science today.

00:31:11.260 The journals publish quote-unquote research

00:31:14.860 that echoes the pre-approved political orthodoxy they want

00:31:20.100 published.

00:31:21.520 And if you don't echo that,

00:31:23.020 they don't publish you.

00:31:24.460 And it is one of the many really corrupt aspects of how science and climate change reporting

00:31:33.100 and academic work is really doing a disservice to the American people.

00:31:38.660 When you look at not only the fact that this is how you get the money,

00:31:44.080 and I do think it's an issue of follow the money as you just described,

00:31:46.660 but certainly it's an indoctrination on college campuses and among researchers,

00:31:50.840 and the cash flow is if you believe in this, we will fund you.

00:31:55.020 But when you make these outlandish claims and then you treat them as fact,

00:31:58.940 there's nothing you can do to debate this with them.

00:32:01.600 When you look at what they said here, they said this is a scientific consensus.

00:32:07.520 And the authors say they analyze 180 studies.

00:32:10.100 All of them, I'm sure, were studies that were funded by radical lefties and global warming

00:32:14.780 activists, right?

00:32:15.980 Those that raise money, etc.

00:32:17.280 But when they come out and say that, you know, we're going to lose a billion people,

00:32:23.020 you make it sound that bad.

00:32:26.240 Is there any way to overcome that with anything else but this propaganda?

00:32:30.220 And I think that's why they make these outlandish claims.

00:32:33.400 Well, it's why we need people in colleges and universities and think tanks in the academic world

00:32:40.480 and in the scientific world to reject politicized science.

00:32:45.160 Let me read a little more from Dr. Brown.

00:32:48.080 Dr. Brown says, quote,

00:32:49.940 So in my recent Nature paper, which I authored with seven others,

00:32:54.220 I focused narrowly on the influence of climate change on extreme wildfire behavior.

00:32:59.700 Make no mistake, that influence is very real.

00:33:03.120 But there are also other factors that can be just as or more important,

00:33:08.540 such as poor forest management and the increasing number of people who start wildfires

00:33:14.620 either accidentally or purposely.

00:33:18.720 A startling fact, over 80% of wildfires in the U.S. are ignited by humans.

00:33:25.760 I want to repeat that sentence because the corporate media will never say it.

00:33:30.380 A startling fact, over 80% of wildfires in the U.S. are ignited by humans.

00:33:38.640 Now, here's what Dr. Brown continues to say.

00:33:40.640 In my paper, we didn't bother to study the influence of these other obviously relevant factors.

00:33:47.440 Did I know that including them would make for a more realistic and useful analysis?

00:33:51.680 I did.

00:33:53.300 But I also knew that it would detract from the clean narrative centered on the negative impact of climate change

00:33:59.060 and thus decrease the odds that the paper would pass muster with Nature's editors and reviewers.

00:34:05.240 This type of framing, with the influence of climate change, unrealistically considered in isolation,

00:34:11.880 is the norm for high-profile research papers.

00:34:16.220 For example, in another recent influential Nature paper,

00:34:20.520 scientists calculated that the two largest climate change impacts on society

00:34:24.840 are deaths related to extreme heat and damage to agriculture.

00:34:29.320 However, the authors never mentioned that climate change is not the dominant driver for either one of these impacts.

00:34:37.940 Heat-related deaths have been declining and crop yields have been increasing for decades despite climate change.

00:34:49.320 To acknowledge this would imply that the world has succeeded in some areas despite climate change,

00:34:55.320 which, the thinking goes, would undermine the motivation for emissions reductions.

00:35:01.020 This is a narrative of so-called scientific inquiry, scientific journals, academic journals,

00:35:09.920 that have abandoned the mission of science.

00:35:13.620 Science is about examining evidence, following the scientific method,

00:35:20.580 beginning with a hypothesis, looking to evidence to disprove that hypothesis,

00:35:24.640 and determining what's happening.

00:35:26.920 Today, an enormous amount of science is simply politics covered in scientific garb,

00:35:34.940 and in no place is that more profound than in the world of climate change,

00:35:39.560 where there are billions of dollars connected to so-called scientists telling the preferred political narrative,

00:35:46.920 facts be damned.

00:35:48.860 Yeah, it is no longer about facts.

00:35:51.600 Certainly in academia, where it's supposed to be about that,

00:35:53.820 but now it's about propaganda and indoctrinating people to this,

00:35:57.540 while they all fly on their private jets to climate change events,

00:36:01.160 which I still laugh at the hypocrisy of that.

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00:37:21.920 Senator, lastly, while we were doing the show,

00:37:23.760 there's some new audio that's come out,

00:37:25.360 and I want to get your reaction to it.

00:37:28.120 Bill Maher went on MSNBC,

00:37:31.020 and he said this, calling out the media

00:37:34.700 for refusing to cover the Hunter Biden,

00:37:38.580 Joe Biden, Biden crime family scandal.

00:37:41.020 It's shocking.

00:37:41.920 To even have a working democracy.

00:37:44.380 It's so funny.

00:37:45.360 I mean, after I was on Joe Rogan the other day,

00:37:47.760 yes, I don't understand how they can equate this equivalency between Trump and Biden,

00:37:57.200 and in a lot of cases, I guess Joe's now for Trump,

00:38:01.040 you know, pretty much out there saying it.

00:38:06.080 Do I love everything about Biden?

00:38:08.080 No.

00:38:09.020 But, you know, I just don't understand how they can look at what Trump did.

00:38:15.720 Now, does the Hunter Biden scandal stink?

00:38:18.760 It really does.

00:38:20.280 Stinks to the high heavens.

00:38:21.740 I mean, that's real corruption there that a lot of the left-wing media will not cover.

00:38:28.660 But it's nothing like what Trump did.

00:38:31.180 I mean, there's just no equivalency to be.

00:38:33.580 You can say, whataboutism for anything.

00:38:37.320 But, like I said to him, you just can't tell unlike things apart if you see that the same way.

00:38:42.900 But, you know, they also shouldn't cover up what Biden...

00:38:48.560 I mean, if Don Jr. had done the things that Hunter Biden did, it would be every day.

00:38:56.140 Yeah, I hear you on that.

00:38:57.180 If they found cocaine in the White House, who could it be?

00:39:02.180 Who does cocaine around you?

00:39:03.860 We can't figure it out.

00:39:04.920 I mean, you hear that, and yeah, he says some things about Trump.

00:39:08.560 But this is Bill Maher calling out MSNBC on MSNBC saying, you guys won't cover this,

00:39:14.960 and you would be covering every day if it was anything with the Trump team.

00:39:18.280 And basically, you guys are full of it and wusses. 1.00

00:39:22.440 Look, I don't personally know Bill Maher.

00:39:24.880 I've never met him.

00:39:26.120 And he's someone who is a doctrinaire liberal.

00:39:29.200 He is a man of the left.

00:39:30.600 But he represents, in many ways, just how radical the Democrat Party has been.

00:39:37.640 Because, to Bill Maher's credit, he's remained a consistent doctrinaire liberal.

00:39:43.440 So he actually believes in principles like free speech.

00:39:46.900 He believes in principles like religious liberty.

00:39:49.960 He's willing to speak out against the asinine radicalization of the Democrat Party. 0.91

00:40:00.160 So he's spoken out against the extreme transgender ideology. 0.85

00:40:05.920 He's pointed out that saying that suddenly massive percentages of our children are transgender

00:40:13.480 and should be sterilized and have medical operations to try to change their physical appearance of sexuality, 0.81

00:40:25.340 that that is an extreme and dramatic shift in our society.

00:40:28.540 And what he's saying here, listen, you and I disagree with his assessment of the relative merits of Trump's conduct versus Biden's conduct.

00:40:38.700 But I'm going to give him credit for acknowledging Biden's conduct because MSNBC doesn't do that.

00:40:45.420 That's the outlet he was on.

00:40:46.980 CNN doesn't do that.

00:40:48.240 ABC doesn't do that.

00:40:49.420 NBC doesn't do that.

00:40:50.520 CBS barely does that.

00:40:52.060 It does that a little bit.

00:40:53.020 And, you know, I will credit him for saying, listen, the evidence now, if you're a regular verdict listener, you know, the evidence,

00:41:03.940 you know, the evidence that Joe Biden personally solicited and received millions of dollars of bribes from foreign oligarchs and enemies of America. 0.87

00:41:12.280 That is a big damn deal.

00:41:15.960 But the fact that Bill Maher, I have multiple times retweeted, pushed out Bill Maher's monologues and excerpts on his show. 0.83

00:41:25.400 At some point, I'll go on his show.

00:41:27.020 I haven't.

00:41:27.500 We actually invited Bill to be on this podcast, and he was willing to do it, and we just couldn't make the scheduling work.

00:41:33.600 So I hope at some point we have Bill Maher as a guest on this pod.

00:41:36.320 And we've talked about I'm willing to go on a show, and we haven't been able to make that scheduling work either.

00:41:42.480 But I hope at some point I'd like to have a conversation with him.

00:41:44.840 I've never spoken to the man.

00:41:46.600 But I respect that as an old school liberal, he's actually holding the line of an old school liberal and looking around at the Democrat Party going,

00:41:55.940 you people are crazy and looking around at the media going, when you don't cover serious evidence of corruption by the president of the United States,

00:42:04.220 that undermines the integrity of what you claim to be, which is journalism. 0.92

00:42:10.640 And that's it's yet another indication of just how radicalized the Democrats have become.

00:42:16.940 Yeah, it was a nice break there, certainly from the reality of what you see every day on MSNBC.

00:42:20.820 And the shock on the face of the MSNBC host when he was saying this was maybe the best part of all,

00:42:27.160 because it was like, I cannot believe he's saying this.

00:42:28.840 I cannot believe he's saying this.

00:42:30.240 I absolutely loved it for that reason, if nothing else.

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Verdict with Ted Cruz - September 08, 2023

Hunter Indictment Designed to Protect Joe, plus Massive Victory for 9⧸11 Families

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