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Verdict with Ted Cruz
- February 05, 2024
Illegal Immigrants Beat Up NY Cops & FLIP OFF the American People, plus the Senate's TERRIBLE Immigration Deal
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33 minutes
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Word Count
5,682
Sentence Count
378
Misogynist Sentences
3
Hate Speech Sentences
25
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Welcome. It is Verdict with Senator Ted Cruz, Ben Ferguson with you.
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Senator, we've got a lot to talk about with the Senate immigration bill
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and a lot of questions I want to ask you.
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But before we even get into the details of that,
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I want to talk about the state of the country with immigration and illegal immigration.
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And there is a flashpoint that has happened this past week
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with an illegal immigrant who flicked off basically the United States of America
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after trying, I would say, to kill a police officer
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where they beat police officers.
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There's a group of them and they all walk free.
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And apparently, from what we've been told,
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they may even be on their way or already in California right now.
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Your reaction to that moment?
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Ben, I don't know that there's a story that has pissed me off more
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in a long, long time
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than what the New York District Attorney Alvin Bragg did here.
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So the story, as you know, is a group of illegal immigrants,
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basically a gang of them, beat up two NYPD cops,
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beat them, kicked them, assaulted them,
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and then they were arrested
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and they got released within hours with no bail.
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They were just let go.
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And as you noted, the image of them walking out
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and with both hands flipping off the entire country,
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I think that is the image of this election.
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When people go vote in November,
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just remember that guy with both middle fingers extended
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because that's what Joe Biden is saying to you.
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That's what the Democrats are saying to you.
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They are saying, screw you.
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They don't care.
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And they are destroying,
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they're destroying our country.
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And it is the idea
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that illegal immigrants can beat up cops
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and there are no consequences.
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It's perfectly okay.
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According to Democrats,
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it is so toxic.
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Every elected Democrat should be forced
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to address this
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and to denounce Alvin Bragg.
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There's also a brazenness aspect
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of this attack on these police officers.
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It was caught on camera
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because it was at Times Square.
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This wasn't in some back alley
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in another part of the city
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where there was some sort of major crime
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that was happening
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and then the police got involved
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and there was a fight.
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This was just an assault on police officers
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at Times Square
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in an area where these illegal immigrants
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clearly felt like
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they can do whatever they want to do.
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There's no reason to believe honestly otherwise
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because we allow them into this country.
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We give them a court date
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that could be seven years from now.
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And their reaction coming out of jail
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because of Alvin Bragg.
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And I want you to go into Alvin Bragg as well.
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This is an activist George Soros DA
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and he's been confronted by this
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and he basically is doing the same thing
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as those illegal immigrants.
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He's flicking off the justice system saying,
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I'm in charge,
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I'm an activist DA
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and there's nothing you can do to stop me.
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Now that is exactly right.
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Alvin Bragg is one of the sadly many
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Soros DAs across the country.
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George Soros has spent millions of dollars
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electing radical left-wing DAs
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who let violent criminals out of jail
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and they go commit more and more
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and more violent crimes.
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And we've seen it across the country.
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We've seen it in New York.
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We've seen it in Philadelphia.
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We've seen it in San Francisco.
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We've seen it in LA.
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You know, Alvin Bragg,
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right after they let these illegal immigrants
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out of jail with no bail,
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reporters tried to get Bragg to comment
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to answer why he'd done so.
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And he basically ran away from the reporters,
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refused to answer.
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And then subsequently,
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here is the explanation Bragg gave.
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I'm going to quote it, quote,
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in a court of law,
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our profound obligation is to make sure
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we have right people charged
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with the right crimes.
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I don't think New Yorkers want to charge
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the wrong person.
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There is a presumption of pretrial
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non-incarceration for every case,
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except those with charges of homicide
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or the death of a victim.
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Now, that is utterly insane.
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I want you to focus on what he is saying.
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I'm going to read it again.
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There is a presumption.
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Well, actually, the first part.
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Well, we want to make sure
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the right people are charged
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with the right crimes.
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These guys are on video.
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We've all watched the video.
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We know exactly who it is.
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We know what they did.
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There's a video of it.
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They do it brazenly
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in the middle of Times Square.
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Nobody is worried
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that you got the wrong guys here.
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We know they're guilty.
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They were videotaped.
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When you beat up a cop
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and kick two cops repeatedly
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on the ground,
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there is no defense to that.
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So the first part of his statement
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makes no sense.
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But the second part,
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if anything, is even crazier.
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Let me read you the second part again.
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There is a presumption
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of pretrial non-incarceration
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for every case
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except those with charges of homicide
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or the death of a victim.
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In other words, Ben,
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your wife or your mother
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or your daughter or your sister
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is violently raped.
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Alvin Bragg is saying
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we will release the rapist.
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If she's not dead,
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we'll release the rapist
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before the trial.
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Someone commits horrific
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child abuse
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and child molestation.
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What is Alvin Bragg saying?
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We will release the child molester
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before the trial.
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Someone beats you,
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your son,
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within inches of his life,
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almost to death,
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and you don't die.
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Alvin Bragg is saying
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you can beat someone
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almost to death
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and he's going to release the criminal.
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That is so utterly insane.
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It is a policy
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that on its face
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just produces chaos
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and lawlessness
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and it produces
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what New York City has right now.
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It's not just New York.
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This is something
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that we're seeing
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all over the country
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where illegal immigrants
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are able to commit heinous crimes.
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People die,
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as you just mentioned,
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and there's no accountability.
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And Congress,
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by the way,
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backed that up this week.
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There was a bill,
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I call this a no-brainer bill,
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that was a bill
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that was really simple
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to deport illegal immigrants
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if they are caught
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driving under the influence.
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Now,
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there's a shocking number
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of people that have died
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at the hands
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of illegal immigrants
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who have been driving drunk.
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And so,
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this bill was to say,
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look,
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you're in this country illegally,
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you get caught with a DUI,
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we are going to deport you,
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and a hundred and fifty
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Democrat senator
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voted against that bill.
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A no-brainer bill.
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What the heck is going on?
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That's the words literally
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from Elon Musk on this.
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Today's Democrat party
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systematically
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puts criminals
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and illegal immigrants
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ahead of the interests
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of American citizens.
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So,
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if you're out driving
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on the road,
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if your wife is out
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driving on the road,
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if your kids are out,
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and a drunk driver
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slams into them
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who's an illegal alien,
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the Democrats are saying,
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nope,
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don't deport them then,
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they are literally
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endangering
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our families.
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And,
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and,
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and,
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listen,
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this has gotten so bad
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that,
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that even,
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even some folks
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in Hollywood
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are jumping ship.
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You know,
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the,
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the comedian,
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this guy,
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Michael Rappaport?
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Yeah.
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Um,
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look,
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he's a loud mouth,
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he puts these,
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you know,
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profane Twitter rants
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online.
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Uh,
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he hates Trump,
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he hates me,
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he,
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he is a big,
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big leftist.
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And,
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and you know how he responded
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to what happened in New York?
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He put out this rant
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and I'm going to,
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I'm going to quote from it,
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although I'm going to try to
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sanitize it a little bit.
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He slams his fist on the table
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and says,
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quote,
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this is why when I say
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voting for expletive,
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Donald Trump is on the table.
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Voting for expletive,
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Donald Trump is on the table.
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And he goes on to say,
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the other day in New York City,
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six illegal aliens
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jumped a New York City cop,
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NYPD's finest.
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They jumped a New York City cop
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in Times Square
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and were arrested
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and released without bail.
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And he continues,
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quote,
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released without bail,
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came out of the courtroom
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on some two-pack,
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raising the middle finger
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with the Detroit Red Wings jersey.
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Let me tell you something.
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What the F is the world coming to
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if you could be from another country,
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beat up a cop in New York City,
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and walk out with no F and bail?
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What the F is the world coming to
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when you have angry left-wing comedians
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now ready to vote for Trump?
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The Democrat Party,
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they've lost their minds.
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And there's also,
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and you and I have talked about this,
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and I think this is a really important moment
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we should just highlight it again.
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Don't look at what they say.
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Look at what they do.
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You look at Mayor Adams in New York City,
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and what he says is,
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we're a sanctuary city early on.
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We're a loving city.
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Come one, come all.
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We'll accept all the illegal emirants.
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Now he's saying we can't afford it.
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Now he's saying it's a humanitarian crisis.
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Now he's saying this is all the fault
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of the Texas governor,
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Greg Abbott,
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for busing people there.
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And so he's saying one thing,
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but doing another.
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And then he says we have a problem,
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yet New York comes out.
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New York City has come out,
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and now they're giving prepaid credit cards
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with real cash on them
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to illegal immigrants.
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Even the rapper, 50 Cent,
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has said maybe Trump is the answer.
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This is the second, you know,
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basically liberal that you just mentioned
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the first comedian there,
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now 50 Cent,
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an African-American famous rapper,
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saying I don't understand how this works.
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Somebody explain this to me.
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How we're giving money to illegal immigrants,
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it's clearly incentivizing them,
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and when I say it's not a little bit of money,
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it's 53 million is going to be distributed
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among illegal immigrants in the city
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in the form of prepaid credit cards.
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So when you say don't come here,
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as Mayor Adams has said,
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but he says here's 53 million,
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if you do come here,
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what do you think's going to happen?
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They want them to come.
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Look, that is exactly right.
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They are literally paying illegal immigrants.
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They are giving them prepaid credit cards.
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Now, mind you, New Yorkers,
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who do you think's paying for that?
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That's coming from New York taxpayers.
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So they come to New York,
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they beat up cops,
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they get released,
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and they get paid to do it.
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And by the way,
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it is not just New York.
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We are seeing this pattern consistently
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in terms of Democrats.
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So another story that broke,
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also in just the last couple of days,
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Washington State took $340 million
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of money from the federal government
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during COVID,
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and it was COVID relief funds.
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And what did they do with it?
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They voted to give that money,
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$340 million illegally,
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to illegal aliens,
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and to send them checks,
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to send checks,
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$1,000 cash giveaways,
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to illegal aliens
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who were not eligible
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under the congressional stimulus program.
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Well, Washington State says,
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well, gosh,
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we're going to take the Fed's money
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and just pay illegal aliens.
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Well, you know what?
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If you pay people to come there,
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you shouldn't be surprised
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when more than come there.
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Yeah, Mayor Adams also said this this week.
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He insists that the New York City
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migrant crisis,
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quote,
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has nothing to do with
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sanctuary city status.
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Your reaction to that,
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that total incompetency?
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Well, he wants to blame it
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on that madman in Texas,
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and that would be Greg Abbott.
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As you know,
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I'm kind of offended
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that he's referring to Abbott
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and not me
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when he talks about
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a madman in Texas,
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but, you know,
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that's who he was talking about.
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And, all right,
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I'm going to do something.
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I've never before quoted
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Michael Rappaport,
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but I'm going to go back
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to something he closes his rant with.
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He says, quote,
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and he's a New Yorker,
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he says, quote,
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maybe my city
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is not the greatest city
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on Earth anymore.
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If you could beat up cops,
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if you could beat up cops
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in the greatest city in the world
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and be released without bail,
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are we the greatest city on Earth?
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Cadaver Joe Biden,
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we see you.
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We effing see you.
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more out of themselves,
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taking a lot of heat this week.
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He may be,
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by the way,
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Senator,
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the first Democrat
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that I've seen so far
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in this cycle
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to actually say
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that we need to start
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deporting people.
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He says,
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only if they're doing
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violent acts.
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This was on local news
00:13:29.960
in New York City
00:13:30.840
doing damage control.
00:13:32.180
Well, listen,
00:13:33.380
I've been saying this
00:13:34.380
over and over again.
00:13:36.180
The national government
00:13:37.020
must do its job.
00:13:39.140
This is not a responsibility
00:13:40.460
that should be placed
00:13:41.620
in the lap
00:13:42.100
of all of these big cities.
00:13:43.920
We're seeing what's
00:13:44.420
taking place in Chicago
00:13:45.640
and Denver
00:13:46.320
and Boston.
00:13:47.560
All across our country,
00:13:49.500
big cities
00:13:50.040
are having to do
00:13:50.820
the national government job.
00:13:52.500
And those migrants
00:13:53.360
who are here
00:13:54.100
because they want to be part
00:13:55.620
of the American dream,
00:13:57.260
that's what we say yesterday.
00:13:58.940
But those who
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are breaking our laws,
00:14:01.280
we need to re-examine
00:14:02.800
the laws that don't allow us
00:14:04.900
to deport them
00:14:06.320
because they're doing
00:14:07.760
violent acts.
00:14:08.600
We cannot create
00:14:09.440
an atmosphere
00:14:10.140
where you're going to
00:14:11.220
bring violence in our city.
00:14:12.840
I mean,
00:14:13.480
he says one thing like that.
00:14:15.480
He's actually saying
00:14:16.240
we should deport
00:14:16.940
violent people
00:14:17.600
that do violent acts,
00:14:18.760
yet he's giving out
00:14:19.620
millions and millions
00:14:20.360
and millions of dollars
00:14:21.280
to illegal immigrants
00:14:22.020
to come to his city.
00:14:23.260
Yep.
00:14:23.660
And the elected DA
00:14:25.740
is letting violent criminals
00:14:27.460
go who are assaulting cops.
00:14:29.120
And by the way,
00:14:29.780
it's not just
00:14:31.460
Alvin Bragg's fault.
00:14:32.600
It's not just
00:14:33.200
George Soros' fault.
00:14:34.300
It's also the governor's fault.
00:14:35.960
Kathy Hochul,
00:14:36.800
under the New York laws,
00:14:40.000
has the authority
00:14:41.140
to dismiss Bragg.
00:14:42.780
And if you remember,
00:14:43.760
there was a very hotly
00:14:45.300
contested gubernatorial race.
00:14:46.980
Lee Zeldin ran against her
00:14:48.780
and he promised
00:14:49.480
if he was elected governor
00:14:50.520
he would fire Alvin Bragg.
00:14:52.960
And so the voters of New York
00:14:54.560
had the opportunity
00:14:55.340
to fire Bragg.
00:14:57.000
And if you remember,
00:14:57.920
during that campaign,
00:15:00.260
Lee Zeldin was on
00:15:01.120
the campaign trail
00:15:02.100
and a deranged man
00:15:04.100
assaulted him,
00:15:05.660
leapt on stage,
00:15:07.160
had a keychain with,
00:15:10.240
it was actually
00:15:11.200
a hardened plastic keychain
00:15:13.440
in the shape of cat ears,
00:15:15.540
but the ears were like a knife.
00:15:17.120
And he tried to
00:15:18.100
basically cut Zeldin's throat.
00:15:21.200
And Zeldin is a veteran.
00:15:23.800
Zeldin served in the Navy.
00:15:24.800
And so Lee defended himself
00:15:26.860
and the guy was arrested.
00:15:28.800
And the guy who tried
00:15:30.580
to assault and murder
00:15:32.320
the Republican candidate
00:15:34.260
for governor
00:15:35.040
was released the same day
00:15:37.180
without bail,
00:15:38.740
just like these guys.
00:15:40.740
And so this is a problem
00:15:42.380
that has been going on
00:15:43.520
a long time.
00:15:44.580
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00:15:45.620
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00:15:48.920
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00:15:52.840
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I don't know why Soros
00:15:55.420
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00:15:57.540
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Senator,
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there's a bill,
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and I want to talk about
00:17:57.400
the side of the Senate bill
00:17:59.060
on immigration reform.
00:18:00.880
There have been words
00:18:01.820
thrown out this last week
00:18:03.020
about mass amnesty
00:18:04.320
could be a possibility,
00:18:05.920
about brokering
00:18:07.060
some sort of deal
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that would basically say
00:18:08.740
if you're in this country,
00:18:09.700
you've been here for,
00:18:10.520
you know,
00:18:10.780
a year or two,
00:18:11.360
we're just going to hand you
00:18:12.420
over the American dream
00:18:13.540
with no accountability
00:18:14.380
for you breaking
00:18:15.480
into this country.
00:18:16.420
Where are we
00:18:17.780
with this bill
00:18:18.440
and what's happening
00:18:19.340
right now?
00:18:20.500
Well,
00:18:21.040
the so-called
00:18:22.300
Senate immigration bill
00:18:23.740
is an absolute mess
00:18:25.520
and I've been leading
00:18:26.880
the fight against it.
00:18:27.920
In fact,
00:18:28.200
I did a press conference
00:18:30.320
about a week ago
00:18:31.340
where I described it
00:18:32.480
as a steaming pile
00:18:34.340
of crap.
00:18:35.840
So my views on this
00:18:37.220
are not ambiguous.
00:18:39.480
And that was putting it
00:18:40.240
mildly,
00:18:40.640
by the way,
00:18:41.080
because it really is
00:18:41.880
that bad.
00:18:42.360
So let's step back.
00:18:44.280
Let's give some context.
00:18:45.500
And one of the reasons
00:18:46.200
we do this podcast
00:18:47.100
is we have a chance
00:18:48.860
to explain things
00:18:49.960
at a level of detail
00:18:51.120
you can't get anywhere else.
00:18:52.300
So why is there
00:18:54.080
an immigration deal
00:18:55.080
that's being discussed at all?
00:18:56.300
And the reason is
00:18:57.280
the Biden administration
00:18:59.120
desperately wants
00:19:00.520
a supplemental funding bill
00:19:02.820
to pass.
00:19:03.340
And in particular,
00:19:04.100
they want more money
00:19:06.020
for Ukraine.
00:19:06.680
They want more money
00:19:07.760
for Ukraine
00:19:08.420
and they've wrapped
00:19:09.980
the Ukraine funding
00:19:11.260
together with
00:19:12.700
emergency military funding
00:19:14.720
for Israel.
00:19:15.780
They wrapped the two
00:19:17.160
of them together
00:19:17.940
along with some funds
00:19:18.980
for Taiwan.
00:19:20.120
Well,
00:19:20.820
Senate Republicans
00:19:21.920
took the position
00:19:22.980
that we will not vote
00:19:24.900
to move that forward
00:19:26.060
unless we have a deal
00:19:28.220
to secure the border.
00:19:29.240
And we were actually,
00:19:30.360
all of the Senate Republicans
00:19:31.760
were united
00:19:32.520
a month ago
00:19:33.840
in saying,
00:19:34.720
you've got to secure
00:19:35.620
the border.
00:19:36.060
We're not going to secure
00:19:37.020
Ukraine's border
00:19:37.920
until we secure our own.
00:19:40.020
And that has to be part
00:19:41.800
of this funding deal.
00:19:42.660
So what happened?
00:19:43.940
What happened is
00:19:45.320
Mitch McConnell
00:19:46.440
deputized James Lankford,
00:19:49.720
Republican senator
00:19:50.580
from Oklahoma,
00:19:51.740
to negotiate
00:19:53.280
with Chris Murphy,
00:19:55.780
very liberal Democrat
00:19:57.040
from Connecticut,
00:19:58.200
and Kyrsten Sinema,
00:19:59.980
Democrat slash independent
00:20:01.880
from Arizona.
00:20:04.140
The three of them
00:20:05.100
have been negotiating
00:20:06.040
for several months now
00:20:07.160
and trying to reach
00:20:08.900
a deal.
00:20:09.740
They're saying that
00:20:11.060
they essentially
00:20:12.160
have a deal.
00:20:13.300
The problem is
00:20:14.500
the deal they've reached,
00:20:16.040
I think,
00:20:16.500
is a terrible deal
00:20:17.760
and it does not
00:20:19.480
fix the problem.
00:20:21.200
Now,
00:20:21.480
that being said,
00:20:22.900
Chuck Schumer
00:20:23.680
desperately wants
00:20:25.220
this deal to pass
00:20:26.780
and Mitch McConnell
00:20:28.380
desperately wants
00:20:30.280
this deal to pass.
00:20:31.320
Why is that?
00:20:32.940
Well,
00:20:33.420
for Mitch,
00:20:34.140
his number one
00:20:35.380
priority is
00:20:36.260
Ukraine funding.
00:20:37.240
It is clear
00:20:37.900
that he is
00:20:38.580
deeply committed
00:20:39.580
to funding Ukraine.
00:20:41.200
And so,
00:20:42.220
when it became
00:20:43.300
clear that the
00:20:44.280
Ukraine funding
00:20:45.080
would not have
00:20:45.760
the votes to pass,
00:20:46.620
especially in the House,
00:20:47.800
where a lot of
00:20:48.620
House Republicans
00:20:49.360
are vocally opposed
00:20:50.980
to additional funding
00:20:52.200
for Ukraine,
00:20:53.520
Mitch,
00:20:54.020
I think,
00:20:54.560
seized upon,
00:20:55.500
okay,
00:20:56.360
let's see if we can
00:20:57.760
get something
00:20:58.480
that we can say
00:20:59.800
secures the border
00:21:00.740
and if that will
00:21:01.480
get Republicans
00:21:02.120
in the House
00:21:02.640
to vote for Ukraine
00:21:03.860
funding,
00:21:04.440
Mitch will be happy.
00:21:05.700
Initially,
00:21:06.580
as this deal
00:21:07.660
was discussed,
00:21:08.940
we were being told
00:21:10.060
by James Lankford
00:21:12.920
and by the negotiating,
00:21:15.620
by leadership,
00:21:17.420
that the deal
00:21:19.000
would force Biden
00:21:20.480
to secure the border
00:21:21.560
to fix the problem now.
00:21:22.880
And my view was great.
00:21:24.220
Look,
00:21:24.580
if we can do that,
00:21:26.100
if we can force Biden
00:21:27.120
to secure the border,
00:21:27.920
that is worth doing,
00:21:29.920
it's interesting,
00:21:30.720
however,
00:21:31.040
as we sit here,
00:21:31.880
you and I are recording
00:21:32.820
this on Sunday.
00:21:34.020
It's going to come out
00:21:34.640
Monday morning.
00:21:35.460
As we sit here today
00:21:36.600
on Sunday,
00:21:37.600
I still have not seen
00:21:39.320
the text of the bill.
00:21:40.820
Wow.
00:21:41.800
Virtually nobody else
00:21:42.860
has either.
00:21:43.440
So I have no idea
00:21:44.480
what's in the bill.
00:21:45.640
But hold on,
00:21:46.240
that's what Nancy Pelosi
00:21:47.260
says is good about Congress,
00:21:48.780
right?
00:21:48.980
We don't know what's in the bill
00:21:50.140
until we pass the bill.
00:21:51.380
So isn't that,
00:21:52.020
that's just like a normal
00:21:52.920
day of business,
00:21:53.760
isn't it,
00:21:54.140
at this point?
00:21:54.840
Yeah.
00:21:54.980
That is exactly
00:21:56.020
what Nancy Pelosi said
00:21:57.520
about Obamacare.
00:21:58.440
You've got to pass it
00:21:59.160
to figure out
00:21:59.660
what's in it.
00:22:00.520
Now,
00:22:00.740
Chuck Schumer has announced
00:22:01.960
he's going to force a vote
00:22:03.160
on this bill on Wednesday.
00:22:05.600
And as I said,
00:22:06.500
we still haven't seen
00:22:07.700
what's in it.
00:22:08.220
So what's happened,
00:22:09.320
look,
00:22:09.560
James Langford,
00:22:10.200
he's a friend of mine.
00:22:11.020
He is a good
00:22:12.060
and decent man.
00:22:13.020
He was a pastor
00:22:13.740
before he was a senator.
00:22:16.140
He's got a good heart.
00:22:18.140
He is earnest.
00:22:20.020
He's well-liked
00:22:20.940
on both sides of the aisle.
00:22:22.200
He came back
00:22:23.360
from negotiating this deal
00:22:25.300
and he went and visited
00:22:26.220
every Republican senator.
00:22:27.700
So James came to my office.
00:22:28.960
He sat in my office
00:22:30.560
and talked through orally
00:22:32.620
different elements
00:22:34.040
that he said
00:22:34.680
were in the bill.
00:22:35.480
And so there are
00:22:35.940
different elements.
00:22:36.700
One of the elements
00:22:37.480
that he emphasizes
00:22:38.420
is he says this bill
00:22:40.280
will tighten
00:22:41.800
the asylum standards,
00:22:43.140
make it harder
00:22:43.940
to qualify for asylum.
00:22:45.880
He also has said
00:22:47.280
this bill will limit
00:22:48.480
the use of parole,
00:22:50.140
which is the legal authority
00:22:51.840
that Biden has used
00:22:53.100
to release millions
00:22:54.240
of illegal immigrants.
00:22:55.260
Now, both of those
00:22:56.040
are good if it in fact
00:22:56.980
does that.
00:22:58.000
But as I said,
00:22:58.660
we haven't seen the text,
00:22:59.500
so I'm not convinced
00:23:00.420
it even does that.
00:23:01.720
The fact that they're
00:23:02.640
not willing to release
00:23:03.600
the text is a big,
00:23:05.080
big, big warning sign.
00:23:06.720
It also apparently
00:23:08.160
has some concessions
00:23:10.080
for the Democrats
00:23:10.840
in terms of giving
00:23:11.860
work permits
00:23:12.780
to illegal immigrants.
00:23:14.380
I don't know the details
00:23:15.220
of that,
00:23:15.640
but I certainly
00:23:16.300
don't like that.
00:23:17.800
And then the provision
00:23:19.060
that has attracted
00:23:21.160
the most attention
00:23:22.180
is it has
00:23:24.620
what Lankford
00:23:25.960
characterizes
00:23:26.820
as a safety valve
00:23:28.080
that says
00:23:29.480
if the number
00:23:30.800
of illegal immigrants
00:23:32.160
exceeds 5,000 a day,
00:23:35.440
then extra tough
00:23:37.940
sanctions kick in.
00:23:39.480
And the way
00:23:40.520
Lankford describes it,
00:23:42.320
it, quote,
00:23:43.040
shuts down the border.
00:23:44.400
It prevents
00:23:45.240
it prevents
00:23:47.600
the Biden administration,
00:23:48.620
he says,
00:23:49.600
from accepting
00:23:50.860
any asylum applications.
00:23:52.680
And he said
00:23:53.180
that's designed
00:23:53.960
as like an emergency release.
00:23:55.720
Now, in December,
00:23:57.840
the last month
00:23:58.540
we have data for,
00:24:00.060
the number of
00:24:00.700
illegal aliens
00:24:01.400
coming in
00:24:02.340
was over 300,000.
00:24:04.880
It was more
00:24:05.440
than 10,000 a day.
00:24:06.920
That is the highest
00:24:08.160
month in the history
00:24:09.000
of our country.
00:24:10.100
We've never had
00:24:10.920
a month
00:24:11.480
with that many
00:24:12.540
illegal immigrants come.
00:24:14.300
Lankford is arguing,
00:24:15.580
well, this emergency
00:24:17.100
relief valve
00:24:18.220
would force
00:24:19.500
the administration
00:24:20.240
to cut that in half
00:24:21.780
from 10,000
00:24:22.720
to 5,000.
00:24:23.900
Now, look,
00:24:24.280
I agree cutting it
00:24:25.000
in half would be good.
00:24:26.300
Here's the problem.
00:24:27.680
That, I think,
00:24:29.620
effectively
00:24:30.460
normalizes
00:24:31.520
5,000 a day.
00:24:32.860
It says
00:24:33.780
we're okay
00:24:35.220
with 5,000 a day.
00:24:36.620
And by the way,
00:24:37.240
5,000 a day,
00:24:38.140
if you do the math,
00:24:39.580
that is over
00:24:40.500
1.8 million
00:24:42.000
illegal aliens
00:24:43.020
a year.
00:24:44.360
It is almost
00:24:45.020
2 million a year.
00:24:46.160
So if you look at
00:24:47.120
over the 3 plus years
00:24:48.700
of the Biden presidency,
00:24:50.480
we have seen
00:24:51.340
over 9.6 million
00:24:53.140
illegal immigrants
00:24:53.860
come into the country.
00:24:55.680
1.8 million a year,
00:24:57.220
that's nearly 6 million.
00:24:58.760
So it's basically
00:24:59.540
Republicans saying,
00:25:00.800
you know what,
00:25:01.640
we're good
00:25:02.380
with two-thirds
00:25:03.440
of Biden's
00:25:05.320
illegal immigration
00:25:06.180
with the invasion
00:25:07.160
and by the way,
00:25:08.220
with that essentially
00:25:09.200
extending into perpetuity.
00:25:10.520
I think that makes
00:25:12.060
no sense whatsoever.
00:25:13.620
Why is he forcing
00:25:15.260
this bill
00:25:15.900
if there's still
00:25:16.740
this much opposition
00:25:17.800
to it?
00:25:18.380
Does he think
00:25:18.960
that he could truly
00:25:19.760
get this rammed through
00:25:20.780
and somehow
00:25:21.220
the House
00:25:21.680
would go along
00:25:22.320
with this?
00:25:23.420
So,
00:25:23.800
understand what's happening.
00:25:25.800
Senate Republican
00:25:26.580
leadership
00:25:27.120
has basically
00:25:28.040
declared war
00:25:29.060
on House Republicans.
00:25:31.200
So,
00:25:31.800
I have been leading
00:25:32.660
the fight against
00:25:33.320
this bill
00:25:33.780
and we have
00:25:34.380
the last two weeks
00:25:35.280
at our Senate
00:25:35.740
Republican lunches.
00:25:36.720
to say we have had
00:25:39.080
energetic
00:25:41.580
disagreements on this
00:25:43.220
would be the
00:25:43.840
understatement
00:25:44.400
of the century
00:25:44.980
and I have been
00:25:45.680
standing up
00:25:46.280
as of a number
00:25:46.860
of other conservatives
00:25:47.720
making the case
00:25:49.000
against this
00:25:49.640
and many of my
00:25:50.660
Republican colleagues
00:25:51.560
are getting
00:25:52.380
really pissed off.
00:25:54.400
I've asked them,
00:25:55.360
so the question
00:25:55.920
I asked my colleagues,
00:25:56.940
I've said,
00:25:57.340
listen,
00:25:58.140
I think the chances
00:25:59.240
of this bill
00:26:00.640
passing the House
00:26:01.940
are zero percent.
00:26:04.580
And by the way,
00:26:05.180
when I first said that,
00:26:06.720
the proponents
00:26:07.700
of the bill
00:26:08.240
were like,
00:26:08.580
no,
00:26:08.820
no,
00:26:08.940
no,
00:26:09.080
no,
00:26:09.160
no,
00:26:09.260
it's going
00:26:09.580
to pass the House.
00:26:10.320
The Speaker
00:26:10.680
loves it,
00:26:11.180
he thinks it's great
00:26:12.040
and I'm like,
00:26:12.720
that's the most
00:26:13.120
ridiculous thing
00:26:13.920
I've ever heard
00:26:14.480
but that's what
00:26:14.960
they were claiming.
00:26:16.080
Then last week,
00:26:17.320
Mike Johnson,
00:26:18.000
the Speaker of the House
00:26:18.780
came out and said,
00:26:20.000
this bill is dead
00:26:21.200
on arrival
00:26:21.800
in the House,
00:26:23.320
which is exactly
00:26:24.160
what I told my colleagues
00:26:25.220
but you've got
00:26:26.740
somewhere between
00:26:28.660
a third
00:26:29.420
and two thirds
00:26:30.300
of the Senate Republicans
00:26:31.380
that desperately
00:26:32.900
want to vote
00:26:33.460
for this bill
00:26:34.020
and in our lunches
00:26:35.200
are arguing vociferously
00:26:37.440
for this bill.
00:26:38.100
Mind you,
00:26:38.620
they don't know
00:26:39.000
what's in it
00:26:39.420
but they just want
00:26:41.000
to vote for a deal
00:26:42.500
and look,
00:26:43.840
a lot of the usual suspects
00:26:45.220
who are out
00:26:46.060
being self-righteous
00:26:47.140
and saying,
00:26:48.080
we've got to do something
00:26:49.120
by the way,
00:26:50.280
the Wall Street Journal
00:26:51.240
has done multiple editorials
00:26:52.940
urging Republicans,
00:26:54.240
you've got to pass
00:26:55.060
this Senate deal.
00:26:56.940
Presumably,
00:26:57.480
they don't know
00:26:58.140
what's in it.
00:26:59.220
We haven't gotten text.
00:27:00.540
I don't know,
00:27:00.980
maybe they gave
00:27:01.480
the journal text
00:27:02.320
but their view
00:27:03.880
and what I've said
00:27:04.960
is listen,
00:27:05.880
initially,
00:27:06.600
the argument
00:27:07.100
that was given
00:27:07.760
was we were going
00:27:09.080
to force Biden
00:27:09.860
to actually secure
00:27:10.800
the border.
00:27:11.340
If this bill did that,
00:27:12.740
I'd support the bill.
00:27:14.320
Yeah.
00:27:15.240
But as the negotiations
00:27:17.400
went on,
00:27:18.220
the talking points changed
00:27:19.440
and so it started
00:27:20.220
with we're going
00:27:20.740
to force Biden
00:27:21.300
to secure the bill.
00:27:22.520
Now here's what
00:27:23.120
their talking point is.
00:27:24.640
Well,
00:27:25.420
okay,
00:27:25.800
we agree Biden
00:27:26.740
will continue
00:27:27.180
to have an open border
00:27:28.080
and the crisis
00:27:28.600
will continue
00:27:29.260
but they say
00:27:31.060
this creates
00:27:32.960
new tools
00:27:34.120
that if Donald Trump
00:27:36.040
is elected
00:27:36.620
he can use
00:27:37.880
to secure the border.
00:27:39.660
So you want to talk
00:27:40.240
about moving the goalpost.
00:27:41.480
First of all,
00:27:42.060
we were going to force
00:27:42.620
Biden to do it.
00:27:43.580
Now they can see,
00:27:44.500
nah,
00:27:44.760
we're not doing that.
00:27:45.980
But gosh,
00:27:47.820
go lickety split.
00:27:48.920
This is good
00:27:49.400
for Donald Trump
00:27:50.120
because it'll give him
00:27:50.900
new legal tools
00:27:51.760
to which I've responded
00:27:53.280
to my colleagues,
00:27:54.840
Donald Trump
00:27:55.400
doesn't need
00:27:56.440
new legal tools
00:27:58.080
to secure the border.
00:27:59.260
How do we know that?
00:28:00.220
Because he did it already.
00:28:01.800
When Joe Biden
00:28:02.700
became president
00:28:03.520
we had the lowest rate
00:28:04.480
of illegal immigration
00:28:05.280
in 45 years.
00:28:07.560
He did it by ending
00:28:08.540
catch and release.
00:28:09.360
He did it with the
00:28:09.880
Remain in Mexico agreement.
00:28:11.200
He did it by building
00:28:12.080
the wall.
00:28:12.800
We can do that again.
00:28:14.040
Trump can do that again.
00:28:15.240
And mark my words,
00:28:17.500
if and when Trump
00:28:18.380
is re-elected
00:28:19.140
you will see
00:28:19.640
illegal immigration
00:28:20.460
drop instantaneously
00:28:22.640
because we've seen
00:28:25.580
that movie before.
00:28:26.740
That's what happened
00:28:27.580
previously.
00:28:28.520
And when Biden
00:28:30.060
became president
00:28:30.840
we saw immigration
00:28:31.760
jump,
00:28:33.200
skyrocket
00:28:33.940
instantaneously.
00:28:35.880
And so the arguments
00:28:36.920
being presented
00:28:37.700
in support of this bill
00:28:39.540
are utterly disingenuous.
00:28:41.440
It's we've got to do it
00:28:42.340
to give Trump tools
00:28:43.240
that he doesn't need.
00:28:44.080
And by the way,
00:28:44.680
he doesn't want.
00:28:45.520
He said,
00:28:46.080
don't pass a bad bill.
00:28:47.480
I don't want this bill.
00:28:48.580
I don't need those tools.
00:28:49.960
And yet,
00:28:51.100
the proponents
00:28:51.720
of the bill are saying
00:28:52.520
that we should do it anyway.
00:28:54.020
Final question on this
00:28:55.380
and that goes back
00:28:56.280
to something
00:28:56.620
you mentioned earlier
00:28:57.880
when you were talking
00:28:58.800
about the image
00:29:00.080
of those illegal immigrants
00:29:01.340
who had beaten
00:29:02.780
the New York Police
00:29:04.220
Department officer.
00:29:05.660
They get out of jail.
00:29:07.200
Apparently,
00:29:07.760
they get to go on the run
00:29:09.340
and get on a bus
00:29:10.180
that was from
00:29:10.800
Catholic Charities
00:29:11.480
from what we've been told
00:29:12.400
and headed to California.
00:29:14.420
By the way,
00:29:14.920
lying about their name.
00:29:16.360
Shocker there.
00:29:17.740
And this is the world
00:29:19.220
that we have now.
00:29:20.040
And you mentioned
00:29:20.940
quickly,
00:29:22.640
you said,
00:29:23.540
this needs to be
00:29:24.960
the center of the campaign.
00:29:26.600
When you say that,
00:29:28.060
that's not just
00:29:28.880
the presidential.
00:29:29.840
You're talking about
00:29:30.800
everyone that's running
00:29:31.720
for office,
00:29:32.820
that's a conservative,
00:29:34.600
and not even just
00:29:35.580
running for federal office.
00:29:36.920
This is a state's issue
00:29:38.980
very much as well,
00:29:40.480
no matter where you are
00:29:41.380
in the country.
00:29:42.600
Absolutely,
00:29:43.520
yes.
00:29:44.400
And understand
00:29:45.560
how spectacularly stupid
00:29:48.740
what Senate Republican
00:29:50.560
leadership is doing.
00:29:51.960
This is the number one
00:29:52.880
issue in the country.
00:29:53.720
People are furious.
00:29:54.580
They understand Joe Biden
00:29:55.740
created it.
00:29:57.880
I've asked leadership.
00:29:59.800
I've turned to Mitch
00:30:00.520
and said,
00:30:00.900
Mitch,
00:30:01.200
tell me how this bill,
00:30:03.520
in what universe
00:30:04.420
does this bill
00:30:05.060
pass the House?
00:30:06.200
And if the answer is
00:30:07.640
it doesn't,
00:30:09.260
then what is accomplished
00:30:10.620
by forcing a vote
00:30:11.680
on this bill
00:30:12.220
that will split
00:30:12.840
our conference,
00:30:13.560
that a bunch of Republicans
00:30:14.920
will self-righteously vote yes.
00:30:17.020
Others,
00:30:17.800
myself included,
00:30:18.740
will vote no.
00:30:20.100
What is accomplished?
00:30:21.320
And they give no answer
00:30:22.260
to that.
00:30:22.600
They don't have a response.
00:30:23.900
But here's really
00:30:24.720
what's accomplished.
00:30:26.240
It is all about
00:30:27.520
political messaging.
00:30:28.740
This enables Chuck Schumer.
00:30:30.420
It enables every Democrat
00:30:31.940
running for re-election.
00:30:33.440
It enables Joe Biden
00:30:34.540
to say,
00:30:36.560
number one,
00:30:37.200
to not secure the border,
00:30:38.580
to leave the crisis
00:30:39.320
exactly as it is.
00:30:40.440
But number two,
00:30:41.020
to say,
00:30:41.680
well,
00:30:41.880
we wanted to secure
00:30:43.060
the border.
00:30:44.180
But the Republicans
00:30:45.180
stopped us.
00:30:46.780
This is all about
00:30:47.940
giving political cover
00:30:49.360
for Democrats.
00:30:50.340
And I'll tell you
00:30:51.240
why Republican leadership
00:30:52.860
in the Senate
00:30:53.400
wants to ram this
00:30:54.300
through in the Senate.
00:30:55.080
And listen,
00:30:55.700
they probably can get
00:30:57.000
the votes in the Senate.
00:30:58.000
They'll get all the Democrats
00:30:59.040
and they'll get
00:30:59.940
a dozen or more Republicans
00:31:02.100
in the Senate.
00:31:02.720
That will pass it
00:31:03.580
in the Senate.
00:31:04.760
The reason they want
00:31:06.040
to do it is then
00:31:07.120
once they've passed it
00:31:08.440
in the Senate,
00:31:09.520
use it as a club
00:31:11.000
to beat the crap
00:31:12.780
out of House Republicans
00:31:13.980
and to defeat
00:31:15.580
the House Republican majority.
00:31:17.100
It is literally
00:31:18.000
Senate Republican leadership
00:31:19.800
helping the Democrats
00:31:21.700
in the House
00:31:22.460
because every Democrat
00:31:23.680
in the House
00:31:24.220
will say,
00:31:24.760
well, gosh,
00:31:25.320
we had a bill
00:31:26.480
that would have stopped
00:31:27.200
illegal immigration,
00:31:28.020
but, you know,
00:31:28.900
you Republicans
00:31:29.920
didn't want to do it.
00:31:31.120
And I will tell you
00:31:32.000
the argument
00:31:32.540
that is making me
00:31:33.500
most angry.
00:31:35.380
There are a number
00:31:36.080
of my Senate Republican
00:31:37.160
colleagues
00:31:37.660
who are going out
00:31:38.260
to reporters
00:31:38.800
and they're puffing
00:31:39.960
out their chest
00:31:40.700
and explaining
00:31:41.360
what self-righteously
00:31:43.200
what great statesmen
00:31:44.980
they are.
00:31:46.180
And they say
00:31:47.240
the only reason
00:31:49.220
someone's opposing this
00:31:50.800
is that, quote,
00:31:51.840
we want the issue
00:31:53.280
rather than to solve it.
00:31:55.000
So they're blaming
00:31:55.540
it on Trump.
00:31:57.040
They say everyone
00:31:57.660
opposes this bill
00:31:58.620
and you're just
00:31:59.100
taking Trump's orders
00:32:00.120
and it's because
00:32:01.200
we don't want
00:32:02.220
to secure the border.
00:32:03.520
We want it to remain bad
00:32:05.300
in order to be able
00:32:06.720
to campaign on it.
00:32:07.560
And I will tell you
00:32:08.480
this past week
00:32:10.520
I yelled at my colleagues.
00:32:12.120
I said,
00:32:12.740
screw you
00:32:13.560
because I want
00:32:15.980
to secure the border
00:32:17.100
desperately
00:32:18.000
and the reason
00:32:18.960
I oppose this
00:32:19.860
is it does
00:32:20.780
not do that.
00:32:22.000
But I said,
00:32:22.400
you know what you're doing?
00:32:23.540
You are reading
00:32:25.480
Chuck Schumer's
00:32:26.540
talking points
00:32:27.460
and your lie
00:32:29.920
will be used
00:32:32.200
to re-elect Democrats
00:32:33.820
to the Senate
00:32:34.400
and the House.
00:32:35.340
You are,
00:32:35.680
you're not even,
00:32:37.080
you're simply
00:32:38.420
being useful idiots
00:32:39.980
and sadly
00:32:41.680
they have no response
00:32:43.460
to that.
00:32:44.060
They just go back out
00:32:45.180
and tell the reporters
00:32:46.080
the same damn thing
00:32:46.920
all over again.
00:32:48.060
Yeah,
00:32:48.240
I agree with you.
00:32:49.160
I think this is the
00:32:49.960
issue of the year
00:32:51.500
right now.
00:32:52.340
National security standpoint,
00:32:53.680
we talked about
00:32:54.420
the illegal immigrants
00:32:55.240
on the terrorist watch list
00:32:56.120
coming across
00:32:56.620
the southern border
00:32:57.160
as well.
00:32:57.840
We're going to keep
00:32:58.580
covering it for you.
00:32:59.500
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