Verdict with Ted Cruz - August 18, 2020


In Hollywood, the Revolution Will Be Televised ft. Isaiah Washington


Episode Stats

Length

26 minutes

Words per Minute

195.685

Word Count

5,185

Sentence Count

422

Misogynist Sentences

7

Hate Speech Sentences

17


Summary

Ted Cruz sits down with actor Isaiah Washington to discuss his career in Hollywood and how he left it all to become a political voice in the halls of power in Washington, D.C. Isaiah shares his story of how he got into politics, why he left the entertainment industry, and why he decided to walk away from it all.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 This is an iHeart Podcast.
00:00:02.500 Guaranteed human.
00:00:04.260 We are in the belly of the beast.
00:00:07.100 The left coast, la-la land.
00:00:09.660 We have left the politicians.
00:00:11.480 We have moved on over to show business.
00:00:13.920 And yet even here, even in the heart of leftism,
00:00:17.680 there are some people, including our guest,
00:00:21.120 who have decided it was too much,
00:00:23.140 who have decided to walk away.
00:00:25.240 This is Verdict with Ted Cruz.
00:00:30.000 Welcome back to Verdict with Ted Cruz.
00:00:34.060 I'm Michael Knowles.
00:00:35.080 We are in sunny Hollywood, California.
00:00:38.000 Senator, thank you for flying out here.
00:00:39.420 And also thank you to our guest, a showbiz man,
00:00:43.720 not someone usually in politics, Isaiah Washington.
00:00:47.860 But Isaiah, you have become very politically active here.
00:00:52.760 Maybe not of your own desire,
00:00:55.060 but because you have contradicted
00:00:56.600 some of the leftist orthodoxies of Hollywood.
00:01:00.000 And they don't take that very well.
00:01:02.020 Yes, yes.
00:01:02.860 I have been a contradiction in this town for 24 years.
00:01:06.560 I've taken a lot of checks from a lot of people I did not like,
00:01:09.460 and a lot of people who did not like me,
00:01:10.940 for various reasons.
00:01:12.320 And none of them had anything to do with politics.
00:01:14.520 It had everything to do with microaggressions.
00:01:17.080 You know, back in the 90s,
00:01:18.080 there weren't a lot of people that looked like me.
00:01:20.400 In colorism, there were certain people like,
00:01:22.460 you know, you may know, heard of a guy, Eddie Murphy.
00:01:25.460 Wesley Snipes, you may have heard of him.
00:01:26.620 I've heard of those guys.
00:01:27.500 Yeah, I think so.
00:01:28.020 Oh, my namesake.
00:01:28.920 You probably know this guy named Denzel.
00:01:32.020 Denzel Washington.
00:01:32.520 Oh, yes.
00:01:33.200 That never rings a bell.
00:01:34.880 Guy was kind of popular,
00:01:36.460 pretty popular.
00:01:37.160 Time Magazine named Arsenio Hall.
00:01:38.940 Oh, yeah.
00:01:39.780 You know, Don Sheetle, those guys.
00:01:41.100 So I studied them back in 1988
00:01:42.580 before I became a Californian in New York in theater.
00:01:47.120 I swore I would never do television
00:01:48.300 because that's not cool.
00:01:50.240 And then you became a big TV star.
00:01:51.920 Oh, I did a commercial,
00:01:52.640 and I got a check in the mailbox
00:01:54.420 and I was completely corrupted.
00:01:57.040 That is what set me on a study.
00:01:58.920 What kind of actor can I be in this town
00:02:02.000 that I know I don't want to be in?
00:02:03.780 So I had to start to figure out the look
00:02:05.580 as my engineering background in the military.
00:02:08.320 I took 10 years to say,
00:02:09.640 well, what's missing?
00:02:11.200 How can I fit in?
00:02:13.140 Because they have these great names,
00:02:15.280 these great businesses,
00:02:16.060 and they have these Will Smiths.
00:02:17.600 And I know they only pick one at a time
00:02:19.580 for whatever reason.
00:02:20.960 It's like a pecking order out here.
00:02:22.700 Couldn't take it personally.
00:02:24.120 So I had to take it in a business way
00:02:25.780 to figure out how can I fit in?
00:02:27.200 How can I catch up?
00:02:28.400 I'm starting late in the game.
00:02:29.780 So what drew you to the world of acting?
00:02:31.560 Did you always know it's what you wanted to do?
00:02:33.300 No, I had a midlife crisis at 23,
00:02:36.700 shortly after the space shuttle blew up.
00:02:39.400 I was working as a private sector
00:02:40.880 in Herndon, Virginia with an organization.
00:02:42.880 And at the time, we had a fax.
00:02:44.600 We didn't have internet.
00:02:46.120 1986, right?
00:02:47.420 85, 86.
00:02:48.560 And I was very concerned,
00:02:50.360 a lowly position about O-rings.
00:02:53.400 And at the time, I was like,
00:02:54.780 you know, we need to take a look
00:02:55.620 at the shelf life of these O-rings
00:02:57.240 that are going out in the world.
00:02:59.260 Now, I don't know if there was a connection,
00:03:01.760 but I knew there was a problem
00:03:04.340 with the O-rings for the space shuttle.
00:03:06.820 And it went up anyway.
00:03:07.840 Right.
00:03:08.160 And what I started to become
00:03:09.540 really politicized after,
00:03:10.980 even though I was in the military,
00:03:12.120 during the Reagan years,
00:03:13.040 I started seeing things
00:03:15.120 that I didn't want to see.
00:03:15.960 Like, why are we putting
00:03:17.700 Christopher McAuliffe
00:03:18.540 and these people up in the ship
00:03:19.640 when there's some issues?
00:03:21.580 And all I remember
00:03:22.560 were a lot of people around me
00:03:23.840 going, it's got to go up,
00:03:24.900 it's got to go up
00:03:25.640 because the president ratings are down.
00:03:27.280 We need a boost, literally,
00:03:30.300 where it went up
00:03:31.100 and it blew up.
00:03:32.560 Yeah.
00:03:33.540 Heard a lot of people.
00:03:34.380 We know the story.
00:03:35.580 I think for me,
00:03:36.320 I was clinically depressed
00:03:37.420 because no one,
00:03:38.540 I didn't know what to do
00:03:39.480 with the information I had.
00:03:40.620 No one was really listening.
00:03:42.340 I think at the time
00:03:43.080 when I look back on it,
00:03:43.940 it's a good question.
00:03:44.500 I think I was clinically depressed
00:03:45.500 but didn't know it.
00:03:46.600 And at that point,
00:03:47.620 I walked away from my wife.
00:03:48.920 I walked away from everything.
00:03:49.980 I walked away from my
00:03:50.860 big screen television
00:03:51.980 back in the 80s.
00:03:52.920 You know,
00:03:53.100 like a big old bowling ball,
00:03:54.880 the big red, green.
00:03:55.800 Yeah.
00:03:56.300 Look, ugly thing, right?
00:03:57.660 I had an ascot, my pipe.
00:03:59.080 I walked away from my cars, everything.
00:04:02.800 Ended up homeless.
00:04:04.260 Wow.
00:04:04.760 And ended up in the Wendy's.
00:04:07.300 Were you in Virginia?
00:04:08.700 I was in Gaithersburg now.
00:04:10.200 Okay.
00:04:11.120 Went there hungry.
00:04:13.460 Crossed the street,
00:04:14.260 was sleeping on my lawn,
00:04:15.160 sold all my furniture.
00:04:16.680 I think I just completely lost it.
00:04:19.720 And I said,
00:04:20.700 I'm going to pretend
00:04:21.760 that I'm going to eat
00:04:22.320 this Wendy's burger.
00:04:23.160 That's when they were making
00:04:23.740 a good Wendy's burger,
00:04:24.520 when it was really big,
00:04:25.440 thick, square meat.
00:04:26.720 Is that where's the beef?
00:04:28.180 Where's the beef?
00:04:28.600 Where's the beef?
00:04:29.620 Sat there,
00:04:30.700 smelled the food,
00:04:31.740 pretended that I had eaten,
00:04:33.020 and went back.
00:04:33.900 I was no longer hungry.
00:04:34.800 And at that point,
00:04:36.040 I felt like,
00:04:37.160 if I can act like I've eaten,
00:04:38.680 and I haven't eaten in three days,
00:04:40.480 and I asked God,
00:04:41.920 if you tell me
00:04:43.460 what I'm supposed to do,
00:04:45.800 I promise you,
00:04:47.820 I will be the best
00:04:49.220 at that thing
00:04:50.240 of whatever it is.
00:04:53.400 The next day,
00:04:54.060 I was given an opportunity
00:04:55.020 to audition for a play
00:04:56.580 called Can Can.
00:04:57.600 I wasn't a dancer.
00:04:59.160 They wanted me to come and dance.
00:05:00.820 I lied and said
00:05:01.440 I could do a pirouette.
00:05:02.480 I didn't know what a pirouette was then.
00:05:04.120 I said,
00:05:04.400 can you do a PK turn?
00:05:05.280 I didn't know what a PK turn was.
00:05:06.860 So I looked at all the other guys
00:05:08.240 that was doing these little turns
00:05:09.560 and went out there
00:05:10.640 and made a complete fool
00:05:11.700 out of myself.
00:05:12.720 So they had fun with me
00:05:13.760 and they said,
00:05:14.100 okay, that's God awful.
00:05:15.780 Can you do a cartwheel?
00:05:17.700 So I did three cartwheels,
00:05:18.960 did not get the job,
00:05:20.340 but I got the attention
00:05:21.480 of another musical director
00:05:22.540 that put me in a play
00:05:23.420 in a church,
00:05:24.380 and that was my first play
00:05:25.820 called Frankenbeams,
00:05:26.880 where I played a gay character
00:05:27.800 that was affected with HIV,
00:05:29.600 full-blown AIDS.
00:05:30.380 Wow.
00:05:31.040 That was my first role.
00:05:32.300 And from there,
00:05:32.820 I got to Howard University.
00:05:34.400 Vera Katz,
00:05:34.960 who's writing a book now,
00:05:36.160 who's behind many people
00:05:38.040 from Debbie Allen,
00:05:39.760 Alicia Rashad,
00:05:40.660 a lot of people
00:05:40.980 who went to Howard University.
00:05:42.300 She put me on,
00:05:42.980 put me on in New York,
00:05:43.960 City Kids,
00:05:45.400 original play,
00:05:46.200 a member for the City Kids
00:05:47.600 Repertory Theater,
00:05:48.400 dealing with kids,
00:05:49.540 the city at risk children,
00:05:51.300 Malik Yoba,
00:05:52.080 came out of that,
00:05:53.280 and then did a commercial,
00:05:54.980 got the money,
00:05:56.300 did One Life to Live,
00:05:57.500 best thing I know,
00:05:58.960 I'm in LA,
00:05:59.600 didn't want to be,
00:06:00.860 but I figured that
00:06:01.560 if I find a role
00:06:02.720 where I can play a thug
00:06:04.340 with a heart,
00:06:05.320 if I can play a thug
00:06:08.160 that looked like
00:06:08.860 he's intelligent,
00:06:09.760 like in Romeo Must Die,
00:06:11.520 then I might be able
00:06:12.660 to work more
00:06:13.160 than everybody else.
00:06:15.200 So,
00:06:15.820 that is what I saw
00:06:16.620 was missing.
00:06:17.120 I saw these stereotypes
00:06:17.980 of bad guys,
00:06:19.200 crips,
00:06:19.760 bloods,
00:06:20.320 not really much.
00:06:22.660 I said,
00:06:23.080 I need to play
00:06:23.700 a bad guy
00:06:24.580 or a thug
00:06:25.140 that has a little bit
00:06:26.120 more intelligence,
00:06:26.860 and it worked.
00:06:28.500 Well,
00:06:28.700 this is an aspect
00:06:29.360 of Hollywood,
00:06:30.160 is there are always
00:06:31.700 just boxes,
00:06:32.600 and you've got to
00:06:33.080 fit into this box,
00:06:33.960 and oh,
00:06:34.340 it's only one or two guys
00:06:35.240 that get to fit
00:06:35.660 in that box at a time.
00:06:36.900 Except for Sam Jackson.
00:06:38.220 He created his,
00:06:40.160 just,
00:06:40.420 he worked so much
00:06:41.300 that he just beat them
00:06:42.620 down with his talent,
00:06:43.900 that he just worked so much,
00:06:46.880 that was another way
00:06:47.480 he just became Sam Jackson.
00:06:48.680 But you've had a great
00:06:49.820 career in Hollywood.
00:06:50.940 I have.
00:06:51.740 But in a certain sense,
00:06:53.620 you don't fit into a box.
00:06:55.380 No.
00:06:55.940 I hate them.
00:06:57.820 I'm the kind of person
00:06:58.740 that,
00:07:00.140 being a Texan,
00:07:01.980 you try to put me
00:07:02.640 in a box.
00:07:02.980 And you're a native Houstonian.
00:07:04.120 Native Houstonian.
00:07:04.460 So you and I grew up
00:07:05.480 in the same town.
00:07:06.280 Yeah.
00:07:06.640 You still have family in Houston?
00:07:07.820 They're all dying off.
00:07:09.320 I moved out,
00:07:10.040 unfortunately.
00:07:10.920 My mom passed in 2001,
00:07:13.300 same year as Aaliyah,
00:07:14.280 you know,
00:07:14.620 so that was my transition,
00:07:16.480 but I don't have a reason
00:07:17.180 to go back to Houston
00:07:18.020 and go to Dave & Buster's
00:07:19.000 anymore or wear my boots
00:07:20.720 anymore or wear my,
00:07:22.020 still have my hats
00:07:22.860 and all that,
00:07:23.460 but I don't have a reason
00:07:24.180 to go back to Houston.
00:07:25.520 But yeah,
00:07:26.220 you know,
00:07:26.500 I was at FFA.
00:07:27.480 I rodeoed.
00:07:29.300 Oh, wow.
00:07:29.780 We did,
00:07:30.340 you know,
00:07:31.100 what we call mule saddling
00:07:33.200 was a big deal.
00:07:34.300 You ever seen a mule cry?
00:07:35.560 It's really sad.
00:07:37.080 Cry,
00:07:37.520 they cry blood.
00:07:39.100 They cry blood,
00:07:40.180 literally.
00:07:40.760 It's like,
00:07:41.080 damn,
00:07:41.260 why am I treating this mule
00:07:42.140 this way?
00:07:42.520 He doesn't want to move.
00:07:43.840 But that's the Democrats
00:07:44.560 for you.
00:07:45.940 It's a bunch of jackasses.
00:07:46.920 Just stubborn.
00:07:49.100 All right,
00:07:49.380 so that's not a popular
00:07:50.720 statement in Hollywood.
00:07:51.900 What?
00:07:52.980 Jackass?
00:07:53.680 Democrats?
00:07:54.180 Anything about the Democrats
00:07:55.740 that is short of...
00:07:56.620 News Island?
00:07:57.060 All of the above.
00:07:59.220 Uh-huh.
00:08:00.360 So,
00:08:02.040 what's Hollywood's politics
00:08:03.840 like from the inside?
00:08:07.640 I never really knew
00:08:08.820 until I went to the White House
00:08:10.080 for Trump.
00:08:12.960 Supporting a policy
00:08:14.160 that I believed in
00:08:14.940 that's letting out
00:08:15.540 91% of the men
00:08:17.360 that's getting out
00:08:17.820 of federal prison
00:08:18.480 for first-time offenses
00:08:19.380 look like me.
00:08:20.860 So,
00:08:21.440 when Meek Mill
00:08:21.980 didn't want to go
00:08:22.580 because Jay-Z
00:08:23.340 told him not to go,
00:08:24.840 and I understand that,
00:08:25.620 you don't want to mess
00:08:26.040 with his paper?
00:08:27.200 Well,
00:08:27.380 you're not ready
00:08:27.720 to mess with my paper.
00:08:28.500 So,
00:08:28.580 I had to figure out
00:08:29.040 how to make paper
00:08:29.580 on my own,
00:08:30.020 right?
00:08:30.980 Literally.
00:08:31.520 Well,
00:08:31.680 it's not like
00:08:31.980 the Federal Reserve.
00:08:33.060 Yeah,
00:08:33.460 I had to figure out
00:08:36.660 how to survive
00:08:37.160 without you.
00:08:38.020 And I've done that
00:08:38.820 for 12 years.
00:08:40.100 And I always say
00:08:40.700 that up to that point,
00:08:42.080 I was 12 years a slave.
00:08:43.640 So,
00:08:43.900 you thought.
00:08:44.180 And then I happened
00:08:46.100 ironically to be freed
00:08:47.380 on a tweet
00:08:49.220 from April Fool's Day
00:08:50.920 that I,
00:08:51.420 as I tweet of Ernie
00:08:52.700 saying,
00:08:53.820 look at this,
00:08:55.180 I'm being blown away
00:08:56.060 with this man
00:08:56.460 getting off this teleprompter
00:08:57.560 and helping these
00:08:58.380 returning citizens.
00:09:00.340 Letting them out
00:09:00.780 of federal prison.
00:09:02.020 Now,
00:09:02.460 we got a man
00:09:02.960 that's sitting here
00:09:03.360 working for Anchorage,
00:09:04.240 named the first orange man,
00:09:05.840 supposedly,
00:09:06.520 Bonner,
00:09:07.160 sitting at the biggest
00:09:08.560 cannabis company
00:09:09.980 in the world,
00:09:11.500 or it's not in the country,
00:09:12.880 selling weed.
00:09:14.180 And here I am
00:09:15.560 being ostracized
00:09:16.980 and excoriated
00:09:18.720 for supporting a policy
00:09:20.600 that's freeing out
00:09:22.140 people that look like me
00:09:23.180 that was caught
00:09:24.620 selling weed.
00:09:25.760 So,
00:09:26.280 I made a tweet
00:09:27.000 saying,
00:09:27.580 isn't it funny
00:09:28.240 that I was talking
00:09:28.880 to this guy
00:09:29.400 named 44,
00:09:31.140 Obama,
00:09:31.620 talking about nothing
00:09:32.240 but the black agenda,
00:09:33.160 nothing about Africa,
00:09:34.000 what we promised,
00:09:34.940 but here I am
00:09:35.400 watching this man
00:09:36.020 who's supposed to be a racist
00:09:37.020 freeing people
00:09:38.420 from poor people.
00:09:40.060 So,
00:09:40.560 that was a big issue
00:09:41.240 for you.
00:09:41.640 That was a big
00:09:42.280 sort of eye-opening thing
00:09:43.820 with criminal justice reform.
00:09:45.660 It still is.
00:09:46.400 And I'm really disturbed
00:09:47.700 because the left
00:09:49.020 has tricked
00:09:49.600 these youthful idiots
00:09:50.600 to the point
00:09:51.820 to turn
00:09:52.520 the First Step Act
00:09:53.440 into,
00:09:54.840 not a non-sequitur,
00:09:56.200 but like,
00:09:56.700 it never made history.
00:09:57.920 It was never
00:09:58.400 all that fighting
00:09:59.080 that everybody
00:09:59.600 had to get behind
00:10:00.440 in a bipartisan way.
00:10:02.260 Now,
00:10:02.700 you force this man
00:10:04.380 to create a 10-year
00:10:05.320 prison thing
00:10:05.940 for tethering down monuments.
00:10:07.560 So now,
00:10:08.060 you're going to take
00:10:08.580 these same people
00:10:09.780 that look like me,
00:10:11.040 most of them
00:10:11.500 not really from here,
00:10:12.760 but still,
00:10:13.280 the optics of you
00:10:14.100 taking these people
00:10:14.960 and now putting them
00:10:16.140 back in federal prison?
00:10:17.800 That doesn't seem like
00:10:19.180 an accident to me.
00:10:22.500 Well,
00:10:23.020 and you know,
00:10:23.400 look,
00:10:23.620 the Democrats,
00:10:24.660 they had eight years
00:10:26.440 of the White House
00:10:27.140 under Bill Clinton.
00:10:28.280 They had eight years
00:10:29.060 of the White House
00:10:29.660 under Barack Obama.
00:10:31.160 They didn't pass
00:10:31.800 criminal justice reform.
00:10:33.380 They didn't do anything.
00:10:35.380 And the First Step Act,
00:10:36.920 I was a big supporter of it.
00:10:38.420 That's right, I know.
00:10:39.000 I was in the Oval Office
00:10:40.900 when the president signed it.
00:10:42.040 I don't know.
00:10:43.180 And my view,
00:10:44.660 you know,
00:10:44.880 I've been involved
00:10:45.760 in criminal justice
00:10:46.420 a long time.
00:10:47.180 I see a big difference
00:10:48.900 between violent offenders
00:10:50.740 and nonviolent offenders.
00:10:52.100 Oh,
00:10:52.240 what we call
00:10:52.720 survival crimes.
00:10:54.560 Yeah, look,
00:10:55.040 if you've got
00:10:56.340 a young African-American,
00:10:58.320 young Hispanic
00:10:58.960 who gets busted
00:11:00.660 for possession of marijuana
00:11:02.000 and serves a long prison term,
00:11:03.880 that can really be unjust.
00:11:06.260 And that's a very different crime
00:11:08.860 than someone
00:11:09.600 who's murdered someone,
00:11:11.620 someone who's raped someone.
00:11:12.920 You commit violent crime.
00:11:14.340 The whole purpose
00:11:14.920 of law enforcement
00:11:15.700 is to stop violent criminals
00:11:17.640 and keep people safe.
00:11:18.640 But I think the First Step Act
00:11:20.020 took a very important step
00:11:21.780 to say,
00:11:22.140 and if it's a nonviolent crime,
00:11:24.240 you know,
00:11:24.440 some 18,
00:11:25.260 19-year-old kid
00:11:26.500 who made a mistake,
00:11:27.460 this may have seemed
00:11:28.120 like the only way out,
00:11:29.640 and it was a mistake,
00:11:30.860 but ruining the kid's whole life
00:11:32.880 is not the right step.
00:11:34.240 And it was remarkable
00:11:35.860 that Donald Trump
00:11:39.520 championed that
00:11:40.580 and that we got it done
00:11:41.580 as a bipartisan matter.
00:11:43.720 Democrats talked about it
00:11:44.980 forever,
00:11:45.240 but never did anything on it.
00:11:46.940 You're absolutely right.
00:11:48.840 You know,
00:11:49.400 I probably committed
00:11:51.860 more felonies
00:11:52.520 in the military
00:11:53.060 than I've ever done
00:11:53.840 in my private life.
00:11:54.860 Really?
00:11:55.400 I made my problem
00:11:56.060 by the first $950,000
00:11:57.640 selling weed
00:11:58.260 in the military,
00:11:59.620 in the Philippines.
00:12:00.900 Some of the top,
00:12:01.880 biggest officers
00:12:02.460 in the thing.
00:12:03.860 But I had to do it
00:12:04.680 because if you didn't,
00:12:06.000 you could get fragged,
00:12:06.760 literally killed
00:12:07.360 in the Philippines
00:12:08.820 and Clark Air Base
00:12:09.400 at this time.
00:12:09.880 This is the truth.
00:12:11.340 So,
00:12:11.720 it was so bad.
00:12:13.580 I went so deep
00:12:14.700 to survive
00:12:15.340 that
00:12:16.860 my commanding officer
00:12:18.420 brought me into,
00:12:19.500 I talk about this
00:12:20.020 on my podcast,
00:12:20.720 so there's no statute
00:12:21.380 of limitations.
00:12:22.360 I don't know
00:12:23.140 where the bag of money
00:12:24.300 that I buried
00:12:24.900 in the Philippines is,
00:12:25.920 so don't ask me.
00:12:27.700 Don't.
00:12:28.520 But I had to do it
00:12:29.500 because I wanted to live.
00:12:31.300 So I understand
00:12:32.120 how corruptions work
00:12:33.120 on both sides.
00:12:34.480 We were busy listening
00:12:35.240 to the Stars and Stripes
00:12:36.300 every day.
00:12:37.260 The Russians are coming.
00:12:38.120 The Russians are coming.
00:12:39.000 The Russians are coming.
00:12:39.860 The Russians are coming.
00:12:40.980 But yet,
00:12:41.400 I'm doing these things
00:12:42.620 with other people
00:12:43.260 that have all this
00:12:44.160 metal on their shoulders
00:12:45.300 and we're all going,
00:12:46.580 shh.
00:12:47.880 Like,
00:12:48.380 the money that we're getting
00:12:49.060 paid by the taxpayers,
00:12:50.480 it wasn't enough.
00:12:51.660 Huh.
00:12:52.580 It wasn't enough.
00:12:53.900 And it didn't stop
00:12:55.100 this behavior of corruption.
00:12:57.380 And it was,
00:12:58.180 at 19,
00:12:58.920 I was a part of it
00:12:59.840 at the highest level.
00:13:01.180 Well, you know,
00:13:01.700 corruption can be
00:13:02.400 a big issue.
00:13:03.680 It can be a big eye-opener.
00:13:04.700 One thing we talk
00:13:05.380 a lot about on the show
00:13:06.600 is the kind of diversity
00:13:08.200 of thought on the right
00:13:09.380 among conservatives.
00:13:10.820 So we've gotten your
00:13:12.280 kind of acting
00:13:13.220 and professional evolution.
00:13:14.960 Yeah.
00:13:15.060 But did you have
00:13:16.080 a political evolution?
00:13:17.640 It would seem at one point
00:13:18.420 you would have said
00:13:18.880 you were on the left
00:13:19.760 and then you were on the right
00:13:20.980 or maybe not.
00:13:21.540 Maybe I have that wrong.
00:13:22.200 Well, my acting,
00:13:22.760 like I was saying,
00:13:23.180 it started at 19.
00:13:24.380 I had to act like
00:13:25.100 I was a decent human being
00:13:27.200 as an airman.
00:13:28.880 We all had to act
00:13:30.120 like we were professionals.
00:13:32.120 Now imagine,
00:13:32.700 I'm 19,
00:13:33.460 but I can't go off the base
00:13:34.780 and drink alcohol
00:13:36.040 because I'm not 21
00:13:36.900 when I got back
00:13:37.520 to Hollywood and Afro space.
00:13:38.500 My point is,
00:13:39.560 the goal to this
00:13:40.200 is that I saw so much
00:13:41.580 things,
00:13:42.480 so many things
00:13:43.060 that didn't add up
00:13:43.900 coming as a little
00:13:44.520 country boy out of Houston
00:13:45.800 where you go to church,
00:13:46.940 there was white
00:13:47.400 and there was black.
00:13:48.280 There was no gray.
00:13:48.880 There was no in between.
00:13:49.580 My point of bringing that up
00:13:50.580 is that people have to do
00:13:52.540 what they have to do
00:13:53.640 if they didn't have
00:13:55.740 the opportunity
00:13:56.260 to do what they were
00:13:57.020 supposed to do.
00:13:58.240 And what I mean by that,
00:13:59.820 I didn't get the scholarships
00:14:00.920 to the colleges
00:14:02.440 I wanted to go to
00:14:03.140 because there was corruption
00:14:04.080 in my high school,
00:14:05.340 Willard Ridge High School.
00:14:06.700 The coach decided
00:14:07.480 he was going to get
00:14:07.940 a kickback
00:14:08.420 to try to send me
00:14:09.040 to a smaller program.
00:14:10.120 So that was the first scandal.
00:14:12.620 So I've been a part
00:14:13.620 of scandals
00:14:14.480 since I can remember.
00:14:15.720 I've been a part
00:14:16.100 of dealing with things
00:14:16.780 where you go,
00:14:17.540 shh.
00:14:18.360 And I've never really
00:14:19.100 been political
00:14:20.280 until I decided,
00:14:21.400 well, who was in power?
00:14:22.460 Well, Reagan was in office.
00:14:24.140 So Reagan is our boss.
00:14:26.360 I didn't get to vote.
00:14:27.340 So whatever Reagan says,
00:14:28.760 Reagan, we have to do
00:14:29.760 to the point
00:14:30.480 when I finally got
00:14:31.340 in the middle of Edinburgh.
00:14:32.480 I'm like,
00:14:32.800 why are we sending F-5s
00:14:34.060 to Central America?
00:14:35.240 Why are we sending
00:14:35.900 live ordinances
00:14:36.760 in Thailand?
00:14:38.160 Only to find out
00:14:39.000 that we were doing things
00:14:39.860 that we weren't supposed
00:14:40.340 to do with taxpayers' money.
00:14:42.660 Why are we dropping
00:14:43.440 bombs in Vietnam?
00:14:44.960 Oh, well,
00:14:45.440 somebody wanted to clear
00:14:46.200 out all the landmines.
00:14:47.440 Well, who, for what?
00:14:49.200 Not a wartime situation.
00:14:50.400 It's a lot of money.
00:14:51.160 Shut up, Airman.
00:14:52.640 Now I find out,
00:14:53.340 oh, well,
00:14:53.720 there's a big resort
00:14:54.420 being built in that area.
00:14:55.460 You were active duty
00:14:56.260 for how long?
00:14:57.000 Four years.
00:14:57.560 That's why I got out.
00:14:58.760 So by politics,
00:14:59.980 I became political
00:15:01.020 by seeing that
00:15:01.860 I'm working for corporations.
00:15:03.600 I'm not working for you
00:15:04.740 or you.
00:15:06.140 I'm not working for the people.
00:15:07.700 And I found out
00:15:08.360 from 19 to 21.
00:15:09.860 I want nothing
00:15:11.100 to do with this.
00:15:11.900 And then I jump
00:15:13.140 in the private sector.
00:15:14.980 Reagan needs to get a bump.
00:15:17.180 People die.
00:15:18.380 So it just seems like
00:15:19.520 I've always been reminded
00:15:21.220 of people that are doing things
00:15:23.860 they shouldn't be doing,
00:15:25.160 but they make it look like
00:15:26.400 it's really cool.
00:15:28.720 This is the right thing to do.
00:15:30.440 And it's really great.
00:15:31.400 Tell us about
00:15:32.140 the walk-away movement
00:15:33.480 and what that means to you.
00:15:35.840 Well,
00:15:36.400 a friend of mine
00:15:37.920 who's a Sierra Leonean
00:15:41.800 who went to me,
00:15:42.580 went to Sierra Leone
00:15:43.360 when I got my dual citizenship
00:15:44.580 and I wanted to see
00:15:45.260 how I could help
00:15:45.740 the most stigmatized country
00:15:47.200 in West Africa
00:15:47.740 that couldn't get any help.
00:15:48.940 Talked to all the senators,
00:15:50.200 Senator Obama at the time
00:15:51.140 about how we could remove
00:15:51.860 the stigma of this country.
00:15:54.200 She...
00:15:54.600 I didn't like how I was treated
00:15:56.080 in the press again
00:15:56.900 to bring up this
00:15:57.620 toxic narrative
00:15:59.860 that wasn't accurate
00:16:00.500 in the first place
00:16:01.240 of my exit of this show,
00:16:02.780 the medical show, right?
00:16:04.020 So at this point,
00:16:05.420 I actually got angry.
00:16:07.300 I thought I was a good guy.
00:16:08.220 Like, okay,
00:16:08.860 I should have said
00:16:09.860 what I said to go to the gloves.
00:16:10.740 I've been drinking.
00:16:11.620 I told the truth,
00:16:12.280 but it wasn't a good place
00:16:13.020 to say that, okay?
00:16:14.400 You don't say the word
00:16:15.580 that everybody's accusing
00:16:16.320 you of saying.
00:16:17.120 It wasn't a good idea.
00:16:18.940 But I told the truth.
00:16:20.000 I'm not a liar.
00:16:21.140 It was the truth.
00:16:22.520 So this comes back up again
00:16:24.080 and again,
00:16:25.480 I'm not doing anything wrong.
00:16:28.140 I decide
00:16:28.880 I'm going to walk away.
00:16:30.820 So she said,
00:16:31.360 you need to join
00:16:31.840 and walk away.
00:16:32.380 I didn't know what it was.
00:16:33.020 I just thought it was a good term.
00:16:34.280 So everything I was tweeting
00:16:35.580 that I was pissed off about
00:16:36.680 and reminding people
00:16:37.960 of my good works,
00:16:38.780 I use hashtag walk away
00:16:39.980 so much that it got
00:16:41.340 Brandon Strock's attention.
00:16:42.760 It's like,
00:16:43.020 dude, that's my brand.
00:16:44.680 Like, what are you doing?
00:16:45.860 Are you with me?
00:16:46.580 Are you against me?
00:16:47.340 Like, what's going on?
00:16:48.280 So he hit me.
00:16:48.980 I'm like, who are you?
00:16:49.760 Oh, I'm Brandon Strock.
00:16:50.660 I'm a Strocka?
00:16:51.320 Yeah, Strocka.
00:16:51.940 Who?
00:16:52.040 He said, no, Strocka.
00:16:53.880 So we got together,
00:16:54.880 got on Varney and Company.
00:16:56.400 We linked up.
00:16:57.300 I supported him
00:16:58.120 and used my platform
00:16:59.500 and then I started
00:17:00.160 tweeting like crazy.
00:17:01.580 Started tweeting like crazy
00:17:02.620 and it started driving
00:17:04.100 the Democrats crazy.
00:17:05.560 Everybody attacked me.
00:17:06.560 April Ryan,
00:17:07.740 everybody,
00:17:08.480 Roland Martin,
00:17:09.620 I crushed them.
00:17:10.620 Everybody that came to me,
00:17:12.060 Mark Lamont Hill,
00:17:13.080 I crushed them.
00:17:14.200 Because anybody that know me
00:17:15.120 on Twitter,
00:17:15.680 I get very blue.
00:17:17.160 Yeah.
00:17:17.620 I'm not scared.
00:17:18.320 I will cuss you out
00:17:19.840 in some of the most
00:17:20.420 extraordinarily creative ways
00:17:21.980 on Twitter.
00:17:23.000 I'm highly documented.
00:17:24.480 Very entertaining.
00:17:25.740 And they all block me.
00:17:26.840 This is something
00:17:27.920 about Hollywood.
00:17:28.940 And Senator,
00:17:29.600 you've spent a lot of time
00:17:30.440 in Hollywood.
00:17:30.960 I mean,
00:17:31.100 it's kind of like
00:17:31.580 an unknown fact
00:17:33.060 of politics
00:17:34.160 that a lot of Hollywood
00:17:36.040 conservatives
00:17:36.600 have supported you
00:17:37.720 for years
00:17:38.200 and you've known them.
00:17:39.840 And the thing about Hollywood
00:17:41.760 is they're very big characters,
00:17:43.660 very eccentric personalities
00:17:45.160 out here.
00:17:46.080 And yet,
00:17:46.500 it's so weird to me
00:17:47.680 that you got this whole
00:17:48.680 fun place with such wild
00:17:50.220 characters and personalities.
00:17:51.620 And yet,
00:17:52.040 when it comes to politics,
00:17:53.760 they're all exactly the same.
00:17:55.880 They're all identical ideology.
00:17:58.640 And if you disagree with that,
00:18:00.280 you get kicked out.
00:18:01.900 I found out why.
00:18:03.060 Why?
00:18:03.960 I was talking to a person
00:18:05.380 and we remained nameless.
00:18:07.540 But I was at an event
00:18:08.740 and he asked me,
00:18:09.940 man,
00:18:10.080 what are you doing?
00:18:11.360 You're hurting me.
00:18:13.500 I said,
00:18:13.720 what are you talking about?
00:18:16.080 You're killing me.
00:18:17.060 You're on the wrong team.
00:18:18.360 He says,
00:18:18.820 if I don't get this mayor
00:18:20.320 reelected,
00:18:22.360 if we can't get Trump
00:18:23.800 out of here,
00:18:25.180 I'm going to lose my access
00:18:26.060 to the bag.
00:18:27.440 And I said,
00:18:27.800 what are you talking about?
00:18:29.420 He says,
00:18:29.860 man,
00:18:30.320 I got great opportunities.
00:18:32.680 I got kids,
00:18:33.420 man.
00:18:33.580 I want to build my
00:18:34.440 foundation on wealth
00:18:35.260 and these people
00:18:36.300 will let me know
00:18:36.940 where all the residential
00:18:37.860 places are.
00:18:38.520 I can get all the
00:18:38.980 inside information
00:18:39.920 on what I can invest in.
00:18:42.300 If I lose them,
00:18:43.780 I don't know anybody
00:18:44.580 in the conservative parties.
00:18:45.980 I don't know any Republicans.
00:18:47.320 They don't like me.
00:18:48.340 I don't have a relationship
00:18:49.140 with them.
00:18:50.120 It has nothing to do
00:18:51.200 with politics.
00:18:51.960 These people in Hollywood
00:18:53.740 are fighting for their greed.
00:18:55.280 So you're saying
00:18:55.640 it's an establishment.
00:18:57.080 It's a personal interest
00:18:58.680 kind of thing.
00:18:59.060 I mean,
00:18:59.180 you see this.
00:18:59.780 We talked about this
00:19:00.600 with China,
00:19:01.440 right?
00:19:01.600 The relationship
00:19:02.120 between Hollywood
00:19:02.980 and China.
00:19:03.760 Really?
00:19:04.300 And as you know,
00:19:05.980 Hollywood is terrified
00:19:07.380 to piss off China.
00:19:08.880 They've been broke
00:19:09.480 since 2008.
00:19:10.520 Yes,
00:19:10.760 China has paid
00:19:11.360 for anything.
00:19:12.240 There's a man
00:19:12.900 named John Lasseter.
00:19:14.160 Yeah.
00:19:14.760 I think he still
00:19:15.680 runs Will Smith's company.
00:19:16.860 Yeah.
00:19:17.320 I got invited
00:19:17.980 to a special little meeting.
00:19:19.200 I felt like I got
00:19:19.800 the little cans
00:19:20.400 where you can hear them,
00:19:21.380 understand the matter.
00:19:21.960 I felt like
00:19:22.460 I was at the UN.
00:19:24.020 So somehow,
00:19:24.800 I don't know
00:19:25.040 why they invited me.
00:19:26.180 I'm like,
00:19:26.560 I'm like,
00:19:27.120 I'm like the big tattletale
00:19:28.460 and like,
00:19:29.280 I'm the wrong guy.
00:19:29.900 I know you show up
00:19:30.440 on podcasts
00:19:30.980 and talk about it.
00:19:31.880 Right.
00:19:32.420 So I'm there.
00:19:32.960 John Lasseter is arrogant
00:19:33.900 and other people are arrogant
00:19:34.860 and the Chinese
00:19:35.620 are sitting there
00:19:36.200 talking about
00:19:36.660 the different levels
00:19:37.380 of copyrights.
00:19:38.280 Like there's 24 levels
00:19:39.380 of copyright.
00:19:40.140 Like if you try
00:19:40.760 to sue them on one,
00:19:41.540 it's like,
00:19:41.780 no,
00:19:41.900 you can't because
00:19:42.440 there's two.
00:19:43.020 I learned so much
00:19:43.940 from these Chinese
00:19:45.500 and all they were asking
00:19:46.860 in a special meeting
00:19:47.720 with SAG after
00:19:48.760 was give us some respect.
00:19:51.960 Jet Li enough
00:19:52.900 and you know,
00:19:53.440 you didn't make him a star.
00:19:54.680 Just take one of
00:19:55.500 our Chinese people
00:19:56.380 and just actors
00:19:57.660 and make them a huge star
00:19:58.780 like Tom Cruise,
00:19:59.840 like Meryl Streep
00:20:01.040 and they fell asleep.
00:20:04.440 The guy fell asleep
00:20:05.480 on the stage.
00:20:06.060 Yeah,
00:20:06.260 I said it,
00:20:06.580 John.
00:20:07.120 I saw you do it.
00:20:07.740 He fell asleep arrogantly.
00:20:09.220 He fell asleep
00:20:09.900 on the stage
00:20:10.920 in front of the Chinese
00:20:11.860 that's paying his bills.
00:20:14.200 All of them.
00:20:14.940 Each one of the
00:20:15.540 major executives.
00:20:16.660 They fell asleep.
00:20:17.920 Like they had no care.
00:20:19.560 They played the game
00:20:20.740 like,
00:20:21.120 yeah,
00:20:21.240 we're broke.
00:20:21.960 Well,
00:20:23.740 Hollywood is paying the bill.
00:20:25.260 I mean,
00:20:25.420 China rather
00:20:25.960 is paying the bills
00:20:26.620 for Hollywood.
00:20:27.240 But it seems that
00:20:28.020 there's a political dimension
00:20:29.440 of this as well.
00:20:30.100 It's not just
00:20:30.580 that they're infiltrating
00:20:31.480 Top Gun or something.
00:20:32.780 There's an agenda here
00:20:34.160 on the international level.
00:20:35.740 So as you know,
00:20:36.340 I just got sanctioned
00:20:37.900 by China.
00:20:38.820 That's a heavy word, man.
00:20:39.360 But by the communist
00:20:40.380 government of China,
00:20:41.400 they announced
00:20:42.260 that I am banned
00:20:43.520 from China.
00:20:44.180 Why?
00:20:45.460 Because
00:20:45.860 I don't like communists
00:20:47.600 and I criticize them
00:20:48.840 and call them out.
00:20:49.600 The communist government
00:20:50.420 of China,
00:20:51.080 they're murderers,
00:20:51.800 they're torturers.
00:20:53.120 They've got
00:20:53.580 one million Uyghurs
00:20:55.120 in concentration camps
00:20:56.520 right now.
00:20:57.160 Yeah.
00:20:57.420 They're censoring.
00:20:59.020 And by the way,
00:20:59.860 among other things,
00:21:00.640 their censorship
00:21:01.340 helped create
00:21:02.380 the coronavirus pandemic
00:21:03.860 because you had
00:21:05.400 Chinese physicians.
00:21:07.460 They censored.
00:21:08.580 Did you say
00:21:09.200 the virus is from China?
00:21:10.640 It is from Wuhan, China.
00:21:12.300 You're not allowed to say that.
00:21:12.680 And the Chinese government
00:21:13.880 is responsible.
00:21:14.600 Did you just say
00:21:15.540 this is a pandemic?
00:21:16.940 This is an economic hit?
00:21:20.480 Did you just say
00:21:20.940 China attacked us?
00:21:22.200 Do you know
00:21:22.880 that when the whistleblowers,
00:21:25.200 Chinese doctors,
00:21:26.000 in December of last year
00:21:27.960 said,
00:21:28.280 hey,
00:21:28.400 we got an outbreak here.
00:21:29.400 This is a problem.
00:21:30.620 The Chinese government
00:21:31.760 arrested them
00:21:32.940 and said,
00:21:34.000 you cannot,
00:21:35.140 any responsible government
00:21:36.380 would step in,
00:21:37.280 send health professionals,
00:21:38.580 quarantine the people.
00:21:40.160 And this may well
00:21:41.340 have been stopped
00:21:41.860 as a regional outbreak
00:21:42.880 and all of the death,
00:21:44.240 all of the economic shutdown,
00:21:45.480 all of the misery
00:21:46.180 could have been stopped,
00:21:47.400 but the Chinese government
00:21:48.100 didn't do that.
00:21:49.340 And I've been calling them out
00:21:50.600 and so you ask
00:21:51.260 why they sanctioned me.
00:21:52.540 One of the reasons
00:21:52.920 they sanctioned me
00:21:53.680 is in October,
00:21:54.760 I flew to Taiwan
00:21:55.720 and I flew to Hong Kong
00:21:56.820 and I met with the protesters
00:21:57.840 in Hong Kong.
00:21:58.740 They don't like that.
00:21:59.060 Two million people
00:21:59.820 in the streets.
00:22:00.840 I did one of the Sunday shows
00:22:02.220 dressed in all black
00:22:03.400 in solidarity
00:22:04.260 with the protesters.
00:22:05.440 What are you asking for?
00:22:06.260 Oh, you better.
00:22:07.280 Look, my dad was in prison
00:22:09.120 and tortured.
00:22:10.460 Wait a minute,
00:22:10.780 I got chill bumps.
00:22:11.780 Hey, where's my bag?
00:22:13.700 You're going to get us all.
00:22:14.900 You're going to get us all.
00:22:16.100 Hey man,
00:22:16.520 did y'all do it?
00:22:17.060 Did y'all check this room?
00:22:18.180 I know.
00:22:18.660 Go ahead.
00:22:19.280 Look, I'm real simple.
00:22:20.640 I don't like communists.
00:22:21.940 I get you.
00:22:22.360 I don't like.
00:22:23.560 It doesn't work.
00:22:24.180 And you know,
00:22:24.720 my dad was imprisoned
00:22:26.540 and tortured
00:22:27.180 by Batista in Cuba.
00:22:28.600 My aunt,
00:22:29.380 my Thea Sonja,
00:22:30.660 was imprisoned
00:22:31.280 and tortured
00:22:31.720 by Fidel Castro.
00:22:33.100 And so when it comes
00:22:34.260 to standing up
00:22:34.840 to communists,
00:22:35.980 I'm eager to do so.
00:22:37.900 And I got to tell you,
00:22:38.660 Hollywood is scared
00:22:39.640 to do so.
00:22:40.760 They're not scared.
00:22:41.700 They just don't have
00:22:42.200 a personal interest
00:22:43.000 to protect anyone
00:22:44.060 who's not part of the club.
00:22:45.380 It's about building
00:22:46.360 their foundational wealth.
00:22:47.540 It's about,
00:22:48.220 like, purge.
00:22:49.480 What Ethan Hawke
00:22:50.180 did to the character,
00:22:51.180 the one black character
00:22:52.060 that tried to help
00:22:52.800 his dog out.
00:22:54.080 He says,
00:22:54.560 I'm going to save you
00:22:55.240 and I'm going to help save you.
00:22:56.200 And they still stabbed
00:22:57.100 and almost tried
00:22:57.920 to kill him in the movie.
00:22:59.280 It's just,
00:23:00.000 you know,
00:23:00.260 a thankless job.
00:23:01.400 Do you think amid all of this
00:23:02.660 there's any hope
00:23:03.520 that Hollywood...
00:23:05.520 Hollywood?
00:23:06.440 You're right.
00:23:07.000 I guess it was a crazy premise
00:23:08.680 to begin with.
00:23:09.280 You don't think there's any way
00:23:10.200 that Hollywood's going to
00:23:10.900 break apart
00:23:11.440 from the leftist consensus
00:23:12.920 that they enforce?
00:23:14.380 I wanted you to explain
00:23:15.640 the H.R. 748,
00:23:17.160 how that became,
00:23:17.940 one thing became
00:23:18.680 the CARE Act,
00:23:19.500 but that's another one.
00:23:20.260 Like, one minute was this
00:23:21.540 and a lot of people
00:23:22.000 hitting me like,
00:23:22.580 wait a minute,
00:23:23.000 this was done
00:23:23.560 and before he shut down,
00:23:25.220 you know,
00:23:25.540 why is this bill this way?
00:23:27.740 But my thing is,
00:23:28.600 no, no,
00:23:29.740 it's not about that.
00:23:31.000 It's about distraction.
00:23:32.680 No one's asking
00:23:33.520 the right questions.
00:23:34.760 Why would Bob Iger
00:23:36.040 step down?
00:23:37.420 Why?
00:23:39.100 You gotta,
00:23:39.900 why can you not
00:23:41.180 open up a nation
00:23:42.900 as large as California,
00:23:44.420 makes all this money
00:23:45.120 driving cars?
00:23:48.420 Why are you going
00:23:49.160 to lose all this money
00:23:49.900 when you are a state
00:23:51.800 that has,
00:23:52.920 produces 33%
00:23:54.020 of all of the wealth
00:23:55.920 into this nation?
00:23:57.960 Just,
00:23:58.560 just put up the wall
00:23:59.500 and just say
00:23:59.880 you want to secede.
00:24:01.420 Just,
00:24:01.900 just be,
00:24:02.580 I would,
00:24:02.940 you know,
00:24:03.180 I would respect
00:24:03.780 the Democrats
00:24:04.360 and Gavin News
00:24:05.060 and Nancy Pelosi
00:24:06.580 and Kamala Hart.
00:24:08.720 If you say
00:24:09.300 you want to kill us,
00:24:10.620 you want to,
00:24:11.080 like,
00:24:11.340 hurt veterans
00:24:12.500 and bring in
00:24:13.120 illegal immigrants,
00:24:14.020 you don't want
00:24:14.340 to close your borders,
00:24:15.640 just,
00:24:16.040 just tell us
00:24:17.180 you want to secede.
00:24:18.120 Just stop playing
00:24:20.420 at this thing.
00:24:21.400 Don't hurt innocent people.
00:24:23.340 Let's just get it on.
00:24:25.300 Well,
00:24:25.900 Isaiah,
00:24:26.620 I'll make a prediction
00:24:27.480 right now.
00:24:27.980 Please do.
00:24:28.940 Which is,
00:24:29.680 if Joe Biden wins,
00:24:30.940 God forbid,
00:24:31.600 I don't want him to win,
00:24:33.420 but if he wins,
00:24:34.240 I know what's going to happen.
00:24:35.860 The day after he wins,
00:24:38.460 they'll declare
00:24:39.100 everything's better,
00:24:40.140 they'll open up the schools,
00:24:41.360 they'll open up the economy,
00:24:42.760 suddenly they'll say
00:24:43.320 everyone go back to work,
00:24:44.800 and you're seeing
00:24:45.720 so many people
00:24:46.680 in politics,
00:24:47.560 in the media
00:24:48.440 that just hate
00:24:49.660 the president.
00:24:50.600 And they want
00:24:51.480 everything shut down,
00:24:53.220 they want every school,
00:24:54.060 they want every business,
00:24:54.820 they want everything
00:24:55.620 shut down right
00:24:56.680 until election day
00:24:57.780 because they think
00:24:58.680 it'll change the outcome.
00:25:00.020 And if they were
00:25:01.240 to happen,
00:25:01.760 I can sit here
00:25:02.380 and safely tell you
00:25:03.320 that there are
00:25:03.920 six million people
00:25:05.200 that will be
00:25:06.600 very,
00:25:07.700 very
00:25:08.160 happy
00:25:10.560 to see Biden
00:25:12.080 try to go
00:25:12.820 into the White House.
00:25:13.620 You will have
00:25:14.340 a civil war,
00:25:14.960 and it will be
00:25:16.140 over
00:25:16.580 within six months.
00:25:19.840 Guaranteed.
00:25:20.900 How do I know?
00:25:22.080 I know.
00:25:22.840 And the one thing
00:25:23.360 we know, too,
00:25:24.240 is unfortunately,
00:25:25.360 we could go on
00:25:26.720 for hours,
00:25:28.160 but unfortunately,
00:25:29.280 the one thing
00:25:29.740 we do know
00:25:30.340 pertaining to Hollywood
00:25:31.440 is the revolution
00:25:32.580 will be televised,
00:25:33.560 or maybe it will be
00:25:34.100 live streamed.
00:25:35.400 I should mention,
00:25:36.240 too, Isaiah,
00:25:36.680 before we head out,
00:25:38.020 you have a show
00:25:38.600 on Fox Nation.
00:25:39.420 Yeah.
00:25:39.720 You've got
00:25:40.100 Kitchen Talk
00:25:40.640 on Fox Nation,
00:25:41.620 which you've got
00:25:42.080 to check out
00:25:42.740 with Isaiah Washington.
00:25:44.300 And the next time,
00:25:45.100 well, hopefully,
00:25:45.580 California does not secede
00:25:46.680 before we can get
00:25:48.040 the senator back out here,
00:25:49.500 and we'll have to
00:25:50.280 continue the conversation
00:25:51.140 next time.
00:25:52.020 I am Michael Knowles.
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