Verdict with Ted Cruz - July 27, 2024


Kamala Dissed Netanyahu Speech, Media to Prop Harris Through DNC & Sec Srvc Undermanned at Trump Rally Week In Review


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34 minutes

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168.46622

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5,825

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455

Misogynist Sentences

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Hate Speech Sentences

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00:00:00.000 This is an iHeart Podcast.
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00:00:05.280 Welcome.
00:00:05.980 It is Verdict with Ted Cruz.
00:00:07.760 Week in review.
00:00:08.820 Ben Ferguson with you.
00:00:10.080 And these are the big stories that you may have missed that we talked about earlier this
00:00:13.760 week.
00:00:14.080 And my oh my, was it a big week?
00:00:16.140 First up, Kamala Harris caught between a rock and a hard place.
00:00:20.060 She has to be anti-Israel, but also meet with Netanyahu.
00:00:23.640 So what did she do?
00:00:24.880 She no-showed for the most important part of Netanyahu's trip.
00:00:28.780 We'll break that down for you.
00:00:30.780 Also, the media now going into We Love Kamala phase.
00:00:35.260 It's a kind donation to her campaign, and it could be worth billions of dollars between
00:00:40.160 now and even the convention.
00:00:42.660 How's that going to play out, and how much of an impact will it have on the race?
00:00:45.920 We'll break that down for you.
00:00:47.660 And finally, the Secret Service.
00:00:50.000 They were undermanned at the Trump rally.
00:00:52.720 We now know more than we knew before about what went wrong in the days and weeks leading
00:00:58.620 up to it.
00:00:59.460 It's the Week in Review, and it starts right now.
00:01:02.800 There was a very significant moment that happened, and it was missed by Kamala Harris on purpose,
00:01:09.700 and that was Netanyahu coming to the U.S.
00:01:12.780 Now, she won't miss if Zelensky shows up, but by golly, she's going to make a real point
00:01:17.240 that I'm not with Israel when he comes to address Congress.
00:01:21.480 You were there, and you spent some real quality time with Bibi as well.
00:01:25.960 Well, that's right.
00:01:27.680 So yesterday afternoon, Prime Minister Netanyahu addressed a joint session of Congress.
00:01:32.820 I was there.
00:01:33.460 I was sitting in the front row listening to the speech.
00:01:35.540 I've heard Netanyahu many times.
00:01:37.620 I know him well.
00:01:38.820 It was an extraordinary speech.
00:01:40.540 I believe it was an historic speech.
00:01:43.260 It had a sense of gravity, a sense of history.
00:01:48.740 Israel is facing an existential threat right now.
00:01:51.920 And the adjective I used after the speech for Bibi's speech was that it was Churchillian,
00:02:00.400 and that is not an adjective I used for any address by any other world leader,
00:02:04.240 because it had the same sense of clarity and history and seriousness of purpose
00:02:10.340 that Winston Churchill brought to rally the world to defeat the Nazis and win World War II.
00:02:17.320 I am very grateful for Prime Minister Netanyahu's speech.
00:02:22.460 I think it was serious.
00:02:23.700 It laid out the evil of Hamas.
00:02:26.360 It laid out the seriousness of their purpose to utterly eliminate Hamas.
00:02:30.040 It addressed many of the lies that Democrats and the corporate media
00:02:35.100 and the leftist influencers on TikTok and social media are pushing to young people.
00:02:40.680 He addressed them very directly, the lies that are being told, and it was significant.
00:02:44.620 But I've got to say, at the same time, it was sad, the number of Democrats who boycotted the speech.
00:02:50.540 We saw dozens and dozens of House members that refused to attend.
00:02:54.580 You saw dozens of Senate Democrats who refused to attend.
00:02:58.500 And the most high-profile person who boycotted the speech was Kamala Harris.
00:03:02.640 Now, typically, when a head of state addresses a joint session of Congress,
00:03:06.760 the Speaker of the House and the Vice President are both sitting directly behind him.
00:03:10.500 In this instance, Kamala refused to attend.
00:03:14.040 And she's not just the Vice President right now.
00:03:17.340 She is the presumptive Democrat nominee for president.
00:03:20.840 And understand, the Democrat Party has gotten so radical today that many of them,
00:03:27.280 including the likely Democrat nominee for president,
00:03:30.680 they are unwilling even to listen to, even to hear what the democratically elected leader of Israel has to say.
00:03:39.360 I thought it was disgraceful that she boycotted the speech.
00:03:42.820 And I'll tell you, during the speech.
00:03:44.540 So, I was sitting with a bunch of Republican senators.
00:03:47.900 I told them right when it began.
00:03:49.640 I said, listen, in honor of Richard Simmons recently passing away,
00:03:54.400 get ready to do some aerobics, because we were going to be standing and standing and standing.
00:03:59.800 I think the count was we gave Netanyahu 57 standing ovations.
00:04:04.980 Now, you know what's interesting?
00:04:07.160 Those were almost exclusively on the Republican side of the aisle.
00:04:10.420 On the Democrat side of the aisle, most of the Democrats refused to stand.
00:04:16.020 When Netanyahu walked onto the floor, Chuck Schumer refused to shake his hand and kind of turned his back on him.
00:04:23.360 I mean, it was, I've never seen anything like it.
00:04:26.640 The contempt, there were several senators, Chris Murphy and Raphael Warnock were sitting near the front.
00:04:33.280 They spent almost the entire speech sitting there with scowls on their face.
00:04:39.560 They wouldn't applaud.
00:04:40.860 They wouldn't stand up.
00:04:42.200 Even when Netanyahu said things like, we need to stand united against anti-Semitism.
00:04:47.500 The two of them sat there scowling and could not stand to stand against anti-Semitism.
00:04:54.200 It is a manifestation of just how much the pro-Hamas, anti-Semitic faction of the Democrat Party has the rest of the party terrified.
00:05:05.260 Yeah, I mean, Senator, you look at what Bibi actually said on the floor,
00:05:09.780 and it was not radical, it was not extreme, it actually made a lot of sense.
00:05:16.840 And for them not to stand when he talks about Hamas, when he talks about good and evil, was shocking.
00:05:24.000 But here's one of the things that he said.
00:05:25.740 My friends, defeating our brutal enemies requires both courage and clarity.
00:05:32.380 Clarity begins by knowing the difference between good and evil.
00:05:39.080 Yet incredibly, many anti-Israel protesters, many choose to stand with evil.
00:05:46.100 They stand with Hamas.
00:05:49.300 They stand with rapists and murderers.
00:05:51.700 They stand with people who came into the kibbutzim, into a home.
00:05:57.700 The parents hid the children, the two babies, in the attic, in a secret attic.
00:06:02.660 They murder the families, the parents.
00:06:05.800 They find the secret latch to the hidden attic.
00:06:08.720 And then they murder the babies.
00:06:11.860 These protesters stand with them.
00:06:13.760 They should be ashamed of themselves.
00:06:16.100 I mean, I'm watching this as a video, as it's playing, Senator.
00:06:24.840 Scores of Democrats sat down, refused to applaud.
00:06:28.800 They did not cheer that we should stand against radical, racist baby killers.
00:06:36.080 He also, Netanyahu, also slammed the protesters.
00:06:39.740 Another example of the radical Democrats.
00:06:42.340 And how they're in favor of those that support Hamas and Hezbollah.
00:06:46.100 I mean, these are terrorist organizations that butchered Jews for sport and are calling for the annihilation of every Jewish person from the river to the sea.
00:06:57.100 And he talked about that.
00:06:58.660 And yet again, yet again, Democrats sat.
00:07:03.160 The anti-Israel protests that are going on right now outside this building, not that many, but they're there and throughout the city.
00:07:11.480 Well, I have a message for these protesters.
00:07:14.800 When the tyrants of Tehran, who hang gays from cranes and murder women for not covering their hair, are praising, promoting and funding you, you have officially become Iran's useful idiots.
00:07:28.480 Some of these protesters.
00:07:54.480 How do you not stand and clap when you're talking about these radicals?
00:08:00.620 But then I realize.
00:08:01.980 So many Democrats were scowling.
00:08:05.840 They were angry when he said that.
00:08:07.880 They were not only sitting, they had their arms crossed and they were furious.
00:08:11.380 And understand, while this is happening, thousands of anti-Semitic radicals were protesting in Washington, D.C.
00:08:19.800 Hundreds of them descended on Union Station, the train station, just a couple of blocks north of the Capitol.
00:08:25.680 At Union Station, they pulled down the American flag on the flagpole outside Union Station.
00:08:31.980 They pulled it to the ground and they burned it.
00:08:34.460 When they pulled it to the ground, the crowd of protesters cheered.
00:08:38.580 They then hauled up the flagpole, a Palestinian flag.
00:08:43.940 Now, let me say two things on this.
00:08:46.240 Number one, I am not saying that Kamala Harris was at Union Station pulling down the American flag, lighting it on fire,
00:08:56.220 and pulling up a Palestinian flag on the flagpole, but understand that she has far greater sympathies for the radicals who did that
00:09:05.040 than she does for Prime Minister Netanyahu, the elected leader of Israel.
00:09:10.500 There's a reason she boycotted, because she and the Democrats, they want the votes of these anti-American, anti-Semites.
00:09:20.120 Secondly, why was this allowed to happen?
00:09:23.360 It was allowed to happen because the Democrat mayor in D.C. let it happen, because we didn't see law enforcement.
00:09:30.780 If this happened in Texas, if you tried to do that in Texas, you know what they'd do?
00:09:34.320 They'd arrest you and put you in jail.
00:09:36.400 The Democrats in office, they are siding with the protesters, and they hate Prime Minister Netanyahu,
00:09:43.380 and sadly, many of them hate Israel just as much as these rabid protesters.
00:09:48.060 There's also the left that's behind it.
00:09:51.340 You know, these agitators were being seen, being dropped off by buses before the protests.
00:09:56.360 A lot of them are paid.
00:09:57.740 Yeah, I was going to say, who paid for them, right?
00:10:00.400 That's a fair question that should be asked, like, who was paying for all these people to show up there?
00:10:05.160 It's the radical lefts, I'm sure, and the Democratic Party.
00:10:07.940 But this is the base, and for Kamala Harris to not be there when Netanyahu arrived tells you how anti-Israel they are,
00:10:19.120 how much they just cannot stand the Jews.
00:10:22.020 And I will say this.
00:10:22.340 Joe Biden has been the most anti-Israel president in American history.
00:10:28.640 But if, God forbid, Kamala Harris becomes president, she will be orders of magnitude worse.
00:10:34.100 And by the way, it's striking also, so we'll do another pod and we'll talk about possible VP nominees under Harris.
00:10:42.100 I think it's going to be the most boring white guy on the face of the planet.
00:10:45.300 I think the two most likely, which we've talked about, are Josh Shapiro, the governor of Pennsylvania, and Mark Kelly, senator from Arizona.
00:10:53.560 But it's interesting, this week, CNN, in covering the VP's sweepstakes, they just, matter of fact, John King, just matter of fact, said,
00:11:03.360 well, Shapiro has a problem, which is he's Jewish in the Democrat primary, in the Democrat party, that's a real problem.
00:11:10.100 And CNN just reports that as a fact, that there are so many anti-Semites among the Democrat party,
00:11:16.780 that being a Jew is a real problem if you're the Democrat nominee.
00:11:21.280 That is sad.
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00:12:01.000 Now, on to story number two.
00:12:03.460 All right, let's talk about the media, because what we're going to see right now, and this is my biggest concern,
00:12:09.860 you and I talked about this in Milwaukee.
00:12:12.060 If Biden dropped out, now it's Biden has dropped out.
00:12:15.360 It's a complete reset of this presidential campaign.
00:12:20.040 The polls, and I want to be very clear to our audience, this is my opinion.
00:12:23.380 I don't know if you agree with me or not.
00:12:24.480 I want to know your take on it, are completely meaningless and worthless right now.
00:12:28.980 The only poll that's going to matter is the first poll after we find out who the Democrats actually pick.
00:12:34.880 Now, even that poll's not going to matter.
00:12:37.160 And listen, this is something you and I talked about in our last podcast.
00:12:41.940 We did two podcasts live from the convention.
00:12:45.440 I love the convention.
00:12:46.800 It was a blast.
00:12:47.520 It's the best Republican convention I've ever seen.
00:12:49.440 More unity than I've ever seen.
00:12:52.720 However, I was very worried at the convention, and I expressed this to you at the time, which
00:12:58.520 is I am afraid people were overconfident at the convention.
00:13:01.960 Yeah.
00:13:02.300 There was an air of celebration.
00:13:05.140 Yeah.
00:13:05.300 It was, we've won.
00:13:06.320 We're on to victory.
00:13:07.780 This is a landslide.
00:13:08.940 Trump's coming back in.
00:13:10.080 We've got a huge Republican majority.
00:13:11.820 You heard people talking about it, 55, 56 Republican senators, huge Republican House.
00:13:17.500 Like, people were planning, people were talking about, all right, who's going to be Secretary
00:13:21.260 of State?
00:13:21.600 Who's going to be Secretary of Defense?
00:13:22.620 Like, they're handing out-
00:13:23.900 Already moved on.
00:13:24.760 Yeah.
00:13:25.300 We won, and now what's next?
00:13:26.880 And that's not the case.
00:13:27.920 And my view, and I was trying to say this, is, look, there's a time for celebration.
00:13:33.000 Celebrate after Election Day.
00:13:34.680 Celebrate after we've won.
00:13:35.940 Now is not the time for celebration.
00:13:37.800 Now's the time for hard work.
00:13:39.140 Now's the time for rolling up your sleeves and going to win.
00:13:42.000 And my assumption is, coming out of the convention, Republicans will get a little bounce.
00:13:47.080 You know, historically, it's about four points is what you get out of your convention.
00:13:50.600 I think it was a strong convention.
00:13:51.880 So let's assume that happens.
00:13:54.240 The Democrats, and I will give them credit for one thing, their timing of releasing it right
00:13:58.240 after the convention.
00:13:59.800 Perfect timing to do this.
00:14:01.340 Because it resets the whole race.
00:14:05.160 It almost doesn't matter what the bounce was out of the convention.
00:14:08.900 And here's the problem.
00:14:09.940 For the next month, all of the news is going to be dominated by who the Democrat is going
00:14:17.380 to be.
00:14:17.520 The Democrats are about to have a month-long convention.
00:14:20.360 Instead of a week, why do you get a bounce out of a convention?
00:14:22.960 You get a bounce out of a convention because you have four days of driving the news, the
00:14:26.600 earned media every night, of your people on TV pitching all of the benefits of your nominee,
00:14:32.580 all the benefits of your record, all the benefits of your agenda.
00:14:35.660 Instead of a four-day convention, the Democrats are about to have a month-long convention where
00:14:39.780 every news story will be focused on who the nominee is going to be.
00:14:43.300 And they're also going to be doing a combination of, number one, praising Biden.
00:14:48.300 You know, it's not graceful to he's on his way out.
00:14:52.660 People don't want to criticize him anymore.
00:14:54.120 They're going to say he did this for America.
00:14:55.520 He's historic.
00:14:56.560 He's one of the greatest presidents in the history of the universe.
00:14:58.740 I mean, you're going to hear all of that effusively, and then they're going to talk about what
00:15:03.960 an historic president Kamala Harris would be.
00:15:06.680 And it's going to be a month long.
00:15:09.040 We're going to see.
00:15:10.420 Multi, I would argue, multi-billion dollar in-kind contribution.
00:15:14.000 And by the way, Republicans, I worry, vastly underestimate Kamala Harris.
00:15:20.880 They don't think very highly of her.
00:15:22.680 They don't think she's terribly bright.
00:15:23.980 When you or I bring up Kamala Harris's name in Republican circles, people laugh.
00:15:29.380 It's immediately a punchline.
00:15:31.960 I think people are underestimating what billions of dollars of free media, of the entire corrupt
00:15:37.960 corporate media complex, pitching her as a combination of Mother Teresa, Oprah, and Gandhi.
00:15:46.460 And save the party.
00:15:48.240 It's going to be...
00:15:48.880 And young and vibrant, and it's historic.
00:15:51.700 I mean, it is going to be...
00:15:54.640 Now, I still think Trump wins in November, but this is not a layup.
00:16:00.780 It is not given in what's coming in front of us.
00:16:03.300 Look, if you're a Democrat, what makes you nervous is chaos.
00:16:05.940 And this much chaos 100 days out is scary.
00:16:09.640 But you know what?
00:16:11.540 Even more scary is going to an election where you're almost certain to lose, which is where
00:16:15.260 Biden was.
00:16:15.900 So from their perspective, let chaos and a chance to win or certain loss, they'll take
00:16:20.860 chaos.
00:16:22.220 But Republicans need to understand just how dangerous this is.
00:16:25.380 It's all perspective in life.
00:16:27.120 And I said this earlier.
00:16:27.920 It's like you're on the greatest cruise ship in the world, and that cruise ship's going
00:16:31.420 down and a crappy little fishing boat shows up and it saves your life.
00:16:35.400 You love that crappy fishing boat the rest of your life.
00:16:37.960 It doesn't matter how bad it looks, how ugly it was.
00:16:40.240 You just got your life saved.
00:16:42.340 And that's Kamala Harris.
00:16:43.600 Like, not a good candidate when she ran.
00:16:45.140 So I feel confident that you do not have a career as a Democrat politics ad maker.
00:16:49.220 I can see the ad now.
00:16:50.740 Kamala Harris, the crappy fishing boat to save your life.
00:16:53.740 To save your life.
00:16:54.400 But it's perspective.
00:16:55.460 I mean, that's what they're dealing with.
00:16:57.120 I'm not sure that fits in a bunch.
00:16:58.020 I know, right?
00:16:58.580 But she didn't even make it.
00:16:59.840 I mean, I go back to when she was running.
00:17:01.660 She got zero delegates.
00:17:02.940 Correct.
00:17:03.400 And she was a terrible candidate.
00:17:04.880 But when you're now in the position of that boat sinking and I'm the only one that doesn't
00:17:10.020 have a hole in the boat, I'm pretty appealing to everybody on that boat and I love you and
00:17:16.160 I'm willing to swim to you and I'm willing to hug you and kiss you and say, thank you
00:17:19.780 for saving my life.
00:17:20.960 It's all perspective.
00:17:22.120 And that's what the media is going to do to her is say, she just saved us from guaranteed
00:17:27.020 defeat.
00:17:28.300 She is a savior to the Democratic Party.
00:17:30.900 We love her.
00:17:31.800 And they're all going to be energized.
00:17:33.620 That terrifies me.
00:17:35.060 Yeah.
00:17:35.560 Energized.
00:17:36.000 And once she's the nominee unified, you know, one thing to keep in mind, people are
00:17:42.080 focused on, oh, money and Trump has a money advantage.
00:17:45.420 Put yourself in the mindset of a Democrat gazillionaire, of a Democrat activist, of a
00:17:52.200 Democrat union boss, of a Democrat special interest leader.
00:17:56.580 A week ago, you were depressed.
00:17:59.240 You were demoralizing.
00:18:00.680 You were contemplating America run by Hitler.
00:18:03.820 And by the way, if you're one of those people, you think Donald Trump is Adolf Hitler.
00:18:07.120 Yeah.
00:18:07.780 But like you were just, I don't even know if I want to show up and vote.
00:18:10.920 It's terrible.
00:18:11.460 It's horrible.
00:18:12.420 And now to go back to the sinking cruise ship, you've been thrown a lifeline.
00:18:18.560 I think we're going to see jubilation on the Democrat side.
00:18:22.740 That's dangerous too.
00:18:24.040 You know, jubilation.
00:18:25.200 Yeah.
00:18:25.560 What happens is donors pull out their checks and they write really big checks when they're
00:18:28.600 massive.
00:18:28.880 What happens is activists go and they work harder.
00:18:32.480 They turn more people out.
00:18:34.260 And that, particularly if the Republicans are overconfident, we cannot be overconfident.
00:18:41.020 That combination is dangerous.
00:18:42.560 And you know what it reminds me of?
00:18:44.760 Potentially, I hope this is not right, but it reminds me of a few years ago, the A&M versus
00:18:48.640 Alabama game.
00:18:50.120 I was there at the A&M versus Alabama game.
00:18:52.320 Alabama at the time was the number one team in the country.
00:18:54.480 You had me at sports analogy.
00:18:55.720 I'm all in now.
00:18:56.380 A&M had started off as a top 25 team.
00:19:00.060 It had a good team, but it had lost two games in a row to opponents it wasn't supposed to
00:19:06.160 lose.
00:19:06.340 I think maybe Mississippi State.
00:19:07.640 Yeah, it was bad.
00:19:08.480 It was bad.
00:19:09.720 And so we came into the game and I was there in College Station.
00:19:14.000 And I remember saying to my buddies I was at the game with, I said, you know what?
00:19:16.920 I think A&M has a real chance to win this game because I think Alabama is feeling like we're
00:19:22.760 the number one team in the country and these A&M guys suck.
00:19:26.260 Look, they're losing to teams that are not contenders.
00:19:30.260 This is easy.
00:19:31.080 We're playing a junior high team.
00:19:33.020 And I think the Aggies were pissed off.
00:19:35.080 They were at Kyle Field and they were defending their home and they were mad because everyone
00:19:39.100 was dismissing them as a joke.
00:19:40.560 And they're like, wait a second.
00:19:41.460 We're a top tier football team and they ended up winning that game.
00:19:46.680 It was awesome.
00:19:47.920 41-38 was the final score.
00:19:50.280 Kyle Field erupted.
00:19:52.760 I don't want to see the Democrats playing the role of A&M in that dynamic.
00:19:57.100 And so my message to Republicans is do not behave like this is in the bag because that's
00:20:02.680 one of the easiest ways to ensure it's not in the bag.
00:20:05.540 Senator, if you are Donald Trump, you now know that Biden is gone.
00:20:12.380 The number one question that the campaign's got to ask is, how do you campaign against
00:20:17.520 somebody for the next month that you don't know who it's going to be?
00:20:21.100 So look, I'd say 40% you campaign against Kamala Harris.
00:20:24.560 You assume it's Kamala.
00:20:25.920 And 60% you campaign against the Democrats' record.
00:20:29.080 And I will say I've been concerned in recent weeks and months that we've spent too much
00:20:34.260 time attacking Joe Biden for his mental diminishment and not enough time making the case, as you
00:20:41.860 and I often do, that the Biden-Harris Democrat record has been a train wreck.
00:20:46.380 And I say Democrat record because it's not just Joe Biden.
00:20:48.800 It's Kamala Harris.
00:20:49.720 And it's every single Democrat in Congress, every Democrat senator, every Democrat House
00:20:53.500 member.
00:20:53.960 They voted repeatedly in favor of the spending and the debt that is causing inflation.
00:20:58.180 They voted repeatedly in favor of Biden's war on oil and gas and energy that is causing
00:21:03.160 energy prices to skyrocket.
00:21:04.720 They voted repeatedly in favor of open borders that's endangering our families across this
00:21:08.720 country.
00:21:09.360 They voted repeatedly in favor of letting violent criminals out of jail that is again
00:21:13.420 in danger of our families.
00:21:14.540 They voted repeatedly in favor of appeasing our enemies and undermining our allies.
00:21:21.320 And so from the Trump's campaign, I would assume it's Kamala, but also make the broader
00:21:27.200 point.
00:21:28.200 It is their agenda that has failed the American people.
00:21:30.800 The classic question in any election, are you better off now than you were four years
00:21:34.500 ago?
00:21:34.880 It doesn't matter what fill in the blank Democrat.
00:21:38.380 They drop into that slot.
00:21:40.320 They're going to be defending the same disastrous failed record.
00:21:43.880 And so I hope the Trump campaign and I hope Republicans generally make that case substantively
00:21:50.220 on the merits.
00:21:51.620 It's going to be interesting.
00:21:52.680 We're going to cover it all.
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00:22:13.400 Yes, sir.
00:22:13.520 Let me make a final statement.
00:22:14.880 I like this.
00:22:15.500 I'm going to place the odds that Joe Biden pardons Hunter Biden at 100.0%.
00:22:24.220 Hunter Biden will get a pardon as a result of this decision today.
00:22:29.900 It will not happen till after Election Day.
00:22:31.600 That's what I was going to ask.
00:22:32.360 When's it happening?
00:22:32.720 He's not going to do it.
00:22:33.640 He's not going to do it before Election Day, but he's going to stick around.
00:22:37.160 And after Election Day, I believe it is now 100% that Joe Biden will pardon Hunter.
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00:23:22.260 I want to get back to the big story, number three of the week you may have missed.
00:23:27.100 You talk about just the bureaucratic BS.
00:23:31.420 Whether, and this reminds me of what happened in our pullout in Afghanistan at the airport that
00:23:35.820 cost American soldiers their lives, we knew we had apparently a bomber there, right?
00:23:42.320 They saw somebody.
00:23:43.920 There was a call that went out.
00:23:45.700 No one apparently could make the decision on how to deal with them.
00:23:49.020 Game over.
00:23:50.660 Suicide bomber decides to do it, and it costs American their lives.
00:23:55.400 You look at this guy.
00:23:56.720 There was so many, I would say, dumb criminal moves that this guy, as a criminal, did before
00:24:05.520 he ever got up on that roof, that was warnings that any logical person would know, don't let
00:24:13.900 this guy in around this venue.
00:24:16.040 Example of that is the damn range finder, which she was asked about.
00:24:20.780 So, did he have a range finder?
00:24:23.320 There were some reports that the individual had a range finder.
00:24:27.240 That would certainly raise my suspicion.
00:24:30.660 Did he have a range finder?
00:24:32.080 Yes, he did, but may I explain that at a number of our sites, especially when you're at outdoor
00:24:38.940 venues, a range finder is not a prohibited item.
00:24:42.420 It is sometimes an item that is brought in by individuals that are going to be in the
00:24:45.880 back.
00:24:46.040 But did anybody confront him on that?
00:24:48.460 Anybody ask him questions?
00:24:50.180 What are you doing with the range finder?
00:24:52.660 Anybody confront him on his presence where he was in proximity to the president?
00:24:58.280 So, again, to my knowledge, I believe that that was the process that was taking place
00:25:02.600 was to locate the individual.
00:25:04.240 Did they confront him?
00:25:05.520 Did they?
00:25:06.380 I mean, they would know he had it to then be able to confront him.
00:25:10.440 It's a very simple question.
00:25:11.900 So, the guy's got a range finder.
00:25:13.980 Apparently, no one confronts him on that.
00:25:16.160 They then start putting out pictures that the FBI and everybody has of this guy they can't
00:25:20.620 find.
00:25:21.140 They put the president up on the stage.
00:25:23.060 They get on top of the roof, and they're like, oh, hey, looky here.
00:25:26.660 We got the guy that we sent the pictures out about.
00:25:29.780 And then if you go back in time to what I mentioned a moment ago, Senator, you also had
00:25:34.360 the other concern, and that is from this whistleblower that said, hey, law enforcement
00:25:41.500 partners offered drones to the Secret Service before Butler-Pennsylvania Trump rally.
00:25:47.860 The Secret Service declined, but this 20-year-old shooter, he used drones on the day of the
00:25:55.980 rally.
00:25:56.880 Really?
00:25:57.560 You see a drone in the air, and you're good with it?
00:25:59.780 You see a range finder, you're good with it, you lose the guy, you put the president
00:26:02.620 on stage?
00:26:03.860 Look, my assumption is that the personnel was vastly undermanned, and that the senior leadership
00:26:09.500 of the Secret Service was not treating Donald Trump as the presumptive Republican nominee
00:26:16.200 as the next president of the United States, and they were undermining him for partisan
00:26:20.080 political reasons.
00:26:21.020 Not only that, so the Washington Post on July 20th wrote a bombshell story.
00:26:27.100 The headline was, Secret Service said to have denied requests for more security at Trump
00:26:31.580 events.
00:26:32.120 Top officials repeatedly rejected requests from Trump's security detail for more manpower
00:26:37.600 and gear at events before attempted assassination.
00:26:40.380 At times, citing lack of resources, people familiar with the ask say.
00:26:43.800 And here's what the Washington Post reported.
00:26:46.200 Quote, top officials at the U.S. Secret Service repeatedly denied requests for additional
00:26:50.960 resources and personnel sought by Donald Trump's security detail in the two years leading up
00:26:56.680 to his attempted assassination at a rally in Pennsylvania last Saturday, according to
00:27:00.880 four people familiar with the requests.
00:27:03.700 Agents charged with protecting the former president requested magnetometers and more agents to screen
00:27:09.200 attendees at sporting events and other large public gatherings Trump attended, as well as additional
00:27:14.020 snipers and specialty items at other outdoor events, said the people, who spoke on the condition
00:27:18.560 of anonymity to discuss secret security discussions.
00:27:22.260 The requests, which have not been previously reported, were sometimes denied by senior officials
00:27:27.880 at the agency who cited various regions, including a lack of resources at an agency that has long
00:27:33.600 struggled with staffing shortages.
00:27:36.820 These rejections in response to requests that were several times made in writing led to longstanding
00:27:45.260 tensions that pitted Trump, his top aide, said his security detail against Secret Service leadership
00:27:52.560 as Trump advisers privately fretted that the vaunted security agency was not doing enough to protect
00:27:59.440 the former president. Now, what did the Secret Service say in the wake of the attempted
00:28:05.940 assassination? Well, they put out, here's what the Secret Service spokesman said on July 14th,
00:28:16.100 quote, there's an untrue assertion that a member of the former president's team requested additional
00:28:22.900 security resources and that those were rebuffed. This is absolutely false. In fact,
00:28:29.440 we added protective resources and technology and capabilities as part of the increased campaign
00:28:38.000 travel tempo. Now, that's a tweet by Anthony Guglielimi, who is the Secret Service spokesperson.
00:28:46.380 It was an official tweet and it was a flat out lie. And by the way, it wasn't an assertion that a member
00:28:53.660 requested additional security. What the Washington Post reported was that his protective
00:28:59.300 detail, the Secret Service agents on the detail repeatedly requested additional security and
00:29:05.900 repeatedly they were turned down. Why is it that the Secret Service is publicly lying on the record
00:29:11.900 and trying to cover up their disastrous failures? I even got to say there were some Democrats that
00:29:17.980 were even shocked over just the absurdity of the Secret Service screwing this up. One of them was a
00:29:25.020 Democrat on the House Oversight Committee that was questioning the Secret Service director before
00:29:28.960 she resigned. And this was just about the roof and where the shooter was. It is shocking. Listen.
00:29:36.600 Mr. Cheadle, as you know, the shooter began shooting at 6 11 p.m. Eastern on July 13th. NBC reported that
00:29:45.520 at 5 51 p.m., 20 minutes before the shooting began, the state police informed the Secret Service of their
00:29:51.760 concern. Now, the rally was not paused at that point, correct? No. And according to NBC, just two
00:29:59.480 minutes later at 5 53 p.m., the Secret Service notified its snipers about the gunman. The rally
00:30:07.380 wasn't paused at that point either, correct? No. Let me show you some video footage by rally goers. If you
00:30:14.920 could play the video on the screen up here. This was taken two minutes before the shooting
00:30:21.580 start, if you could turn up the volume. Dangerous people. Criminals. We have criminals. We have
00:30:26.740 criminals. We have criminals. We have criminals. Right here. Right on the roof. We have people. Right here. Right on the roof.
00:30:33.080 It's as much tougher than that. Right on the roof we got. Come here. Ma'am, that doesn't look like
00:30:40.740 suspicious behavior. That looks like threatening behavior to me. And the rally wasn't paused at that
00:30:45.860 point either, correct? I can tell you, as I stated earlier, sir, that the moment that the shift
00:30:51.680 surrounding the president were aware of an actual threat. That's a threat right there. The guy's on
00:30:59.420 the roof and everybody's yelling at him. Yes. And directing the officer's attention to him. The rally
00:31:05.120 was not paused at that point, correct? We are currently still combing through communications and when
00:31:11.360 communications were passed. Well, I can point you to this communication. It's two minutes before the shots
00:31:16.640 started ringing out. Director Tietel, yes or no? Was there ever a moment where the Secret Service
00:31:22.160 actually considered pausing the rally? The Secret Service would have paused the rally had they known or
00:31:29.520 been told there was an actual threat. So the answer is no. The answer is no, correct? I can speak to you in
00:31:36.540 generalities. No, no. I don't want generalities. I don't know all of the communications. The answer is no.
00:31:41.020 You did not consider pausing the rally, correct? The people that are in charge of protecting the
00:31:46.240 president on that day would never bring the former president out if there was a threat that had been
00:31:52.380 identified. Well, they did because we've now identified three points in the 20 minutes before
00:31:59.180 the shooting that the threat emerged. I mean, Senator, you listen to this and I worry, final question for
00:32:06.340 you about not just the incumbency of the director who's resigned, but the people that she's hired
00:32:11.620 in the bureaucracy underneath her. She may be gone, but if there's others that trickle all the way down
00:32:18.240 to the events level and this is allowed to happen, I mean, for goodness sakes, their excuse about the
00:32:23.720 roof being too sloped to put people up there. Well, guess what? Where the counter sniper team was,
00:32:28.100 we found out that roof was actually sloped at a higher degree of angle than the roof where the
00:32:32.940 shooter shot from. So she was lying to us then. It was all PR. It was all spin. This was astonishing
00:32:40.780 incompetence combined with a partisan political gross negligence, which is because her partisan
00:32:50.640 political loyalties are to Joe Biden. They devalued protecting Donald Trump. They also devalued
00:32:57.220 protecting RFK Jr. And that security detail should have been granted long ago. And I think it is,
00:33:04.680 there is a very good question to ask next about who's next. What are they doing now? What are they
00:33:09.800 doing today? What are they doing tomorrow to prevent the next lunatic from doing this? And we need to make
00:33:16.820 sure there are adequate resources. We need to make sure the site is secured. We need to make sure they
00:33:22.560 have procedures in place. There were multiple junctures at which this assassin, this attempted
00:33:28.300 assassin could have been stopped, could have been apprehended. President Trump could have been
00:33:33.140 delayed from going up on that stage and never subjected to the risk of the sniper fire. He could
00:33:37.880 have been removed from that stage once they realized there was a potential sniper there. There were a
00:33:43.740 series of catastrophic mistakes. And to date, Secret Service leadership has still taken responsibility
00:33:52.740 for none of them, accountability for none of them. As Harry S. Truman famously said, the buck stops here.
00:33:59.400 Well, the buck doesn't stop anywhere because they're all passing the buck and they're not even admitting
00:34:04.000 that there was a problem. It is a huge problem going forward and it needs to be fixed.
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