Verdict with Ted Cruz - Kamala is a MASSIVE Threat to Free Speech, plus Kamala's Border Hypocrisy is too much even for CNN

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00:00:05.420 Welcome. It is Verdict with Senator Ted Cruz, Ben Ferguson with you.

00:00:09.400 Senator Kamala Harris has got quite a history when it comes to wanting to limit free speech. 1.00

00:00:15.880 And it seems to all be boiling up at this moment, just days before this big presidential debate.

00:00:23.020 Kamala Harris and Tim Walz are the most anti-free speech presidential and vice presidential candidate

00:00:29.140 in American history.

00:00:31.600 Kamala has a long, long history of calling for censorship, calling for silencing anyone who disagrees with her,

00:00:39.820 of wanting to use government power to silence her critics.

00:00:43.980 If Kamala Harris becomes president, I predict now she will try to muzzle X. 1.00

00:00:50.720 She will try to ban X.

00:00:52.780 She wants to follow Brazil's path and ban X. 0.99

00:00:56.260 She wants to use government power to go after big tech and force them to be her censors. 1.00

00:01:02.160 We're going to break that down.

00:01:03.140 We're going to lay out her record.

00:01:04.240 Her record is stunning and it is consistent over the years.

00:01:08.380 A profound threat to the government silencing you.

00:01:11.380 Number two, Kamala Harris on the border wall over and over and over and over again has been opposed to the border wall.

00:01:18.720 She's denounced the border wall.

00:01:20.420 Now she's running millions of dollars of TV ads featuring, hold for it, the border wall. 0.93

00:01:27.200 Utterly and completely hypocritical and astonishingly, CNN has called her out for it.

00:01:32.120 All of that in today's pod. 0.63

00:01:33.880 Yeah, telegraphing that move in court, it was a wild day and that is going to be very interesting to chat about in a moment.

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00:03:27.360 Senator, let's get into freedom of speech.

00:03:30.120 I believe that this should be a center point of this debate that we are just days away from.

00:03:36.920 And that is what you said a moment ago.

00:03:39.120 Not only is Kamala Harris and her VP running mate Walsh extremists, but they are at the top of the list of those wanting to suppress the rights of free speech of every American, including Donald Trump.

00:03:52.480 Look, Kamala Harris displays more antipathy to free speech in the First Amendment than any presidential candidate in 224 years. 0.99

00:04:02.700 The last time we had a presidential candidate with this antipathy was John Adams, our second president, who had enforced the Alien and Sedition Acts and used them to persecute his political opponents.

00:04:14.260 It's been two centuries since that has happened since then.

00:04:18.160 And Kamala Harris displays an unprecedented willingness to use government power to silence you.

00:04:28.340 And I want to go back.

00:04:29.420 I want you to listen to an interview that Kamala Harris did with Jake Tapper on CNN in 2019.

00:04:36.400 And listen to this back and forth between Tapper and Kamala Harris.

00:04:40.380 I guess the question about you, I know you wrote to Twitter and the CEO, Jack Dorsey, and asked him to take away the president's Twitter handle, his account.

00:04:52.640 How is that not a violation of free speech?

00:04:56.500 I mean, the president has the same rights that you have, that I have.

00:05:01.500 And how would that not just be a slippery slope where they have to ban, you know, half of the people on Twitter?

00:05:07.940 I've heard that argument.

00:05:09.560 But here's the thing, Jake.

00:05:11.080 First of all, a corporation, which is what Twitter is, does not have the, has obligations.

00:05:19.460 And in this case, Twitter has terms of use policy.

00:05:22.760 And their terms of use dictate who receives the privilege of speaking on that platform and who does not.

00:05:30.320 And Donald Trump has clearly violated the terms of use.

00:05:34.280 And there should be a consequence for that.

00:05:36.020 Not to mention the fact that he has used his platform, being the president of the United States, in a way that has been about inciting fear and potentially inciting harm against a witness to what might be a crime against our country and our democracy.

00:05:51.300 And for that reason, I do believe that he is that it's clear that he has violated the terms of use.

00:05:57.640 And I'm asking that Twitter does what it has done in previous occasions, which is to revoke someone's privilege because they have not they've not lived up to the to the advantages of the privilege.

00:06:07.920 Freedom of speech is a privilege, she says, is granted to you by us, the dictators.

00:06:14.200 And she was advocating for the president of the United States of America to be silenced by big tech and demanding it.

00:06:21.720 She was. And mind you, this is twenty nineteen. So this is before January six.

00:06:26.560 It had nothing to do with that. He was the sitting president that she was calling on to be silenced.

00:06:31.720 And I'll tell you what, I want to do something. Play that that that that clip again.

00:06:35.400 And I want to just start it. I'm going to tell you to stop it a couple of times midway through.

00:06:39.220 But but but play it one more time. I guess the question about you, I know you wrote to Twitter and the CEO, Jack Dorsey, and asked him to take away the president's Twitter handle, his account.

00:06:52.460 How is that not a violation of free speech? I mean, the president has the same rights that you have, that I have.

00:07:01.500 And how would that not just be a slippery slope where they have to ban, you know, half of the people on Twitter?

00:07:07.140 Stop. OK, let me start by saying that is an excellent question from Jake Tapper.

00:07:14.340 And and I don't often praise CNN, but that that was CNN. That was Jake Tapper being a real journalist.

00:07:20.500 His question is exactly right. She is saying silence the president of the United States.

00:07:24.860 He says, well, how is that not a violation of free speech? He has the same rights you do.

00:07:29.240 I do. And isn't the consequence of what you're saying that Twitter would have to ban half the country?

00:07:37.140 Anyone who disagrees with you, Kamala Harris, if you're not a leftist, if you dare say something conservative, if you say something like we need to secure the border, Twitter has to ban you.

00:07:46.300 How is that not a violation of free speech? That's a great question. Now, notice she doesn't answer it.

00:07:51.620 Instead, play what she says. And I'm going to stop you again pretty soon. Let's play what she says.

00:07:55.140 I've heard that argument. But but here's the thing, Jake. First of all, a corporation, which is what Twitter is.

00:08:03.300 So this is one of the classic arguments of leftists, which is corporations don't have free speech rights.

00:08:10.980 That's what she's referring to. Now, that is as a matter of constitutional law, objectively false.

00:08:17.580 That is wrong. And let me tell you why it is wrong. The New York Times is a corporation.

00:08:23.100 Ben, do you think The New York Times has free speech rights? I think they absolutely do.

00:08:28.000 CNN is a corporation. You think CNN has free speech rights? Yes.

00:08:32.420 Simon and Schuster, which publishes books, they're a corporation. You think they have free speech rights?

00:08:36.360 If they didn't, they would be in a lot of trouble a lot of days of the year.

00:08:41.320 Paramount Pictures, which makes movies, they're a corporation. You think they have free speech rights?

00:08:45.580 A hundred percent. Planned Parenthood is a corporation. You think Planned Parenthood has free speech rights?

00:08:51.000 As much as I don't like it. Yes. The NRA is a corporation. Does the NRA have free speech rights?

00:08:57.220 Absolutely. The NAACP is a corporation. Does the NAACP have free speech rights?

00:09:02.620 Yes. And they would argue all day and all night to that.

00:09:07.340 And by the way, the Supreme Court has agreed with your answers on every one of those over and over and over and over again.

00:09:13.280 So understand, her standard leftist, well, it's a corporation, so it doesn't matter.

00:09:18.980 That is gibberish. It is nonsense. What is a corporation? 0.96

00:09:23.540 A corporation is a legal structure for human beings to organize together in a collective endeavor.

00:09:28.840 And in politics, corporations frequently engage in speech and political speech.

00:09:36.540 It is a method through which people speak.

00:09:40.560 And so she starts with the idea, okay, corporations, we can do it.

00:09:43.420 Now keep playing with what else she says.

00:09:45.240 Does not have the, has obligations, and in this case, Twitter has terms of use policy.

00:09:51.820 Okay, now let me stop.

00:09:53.220 Okay, now notice what she said.

00:09:54.200 Twitter, Twitter's a corporation, and a corporation has obligations.

00:10:00.080 Now that, those are the words of a collectivist.

00:10:03.440 Those are the words of a totalitarian.

00:10:05.840 If you do business in my government, you have obligations.

00:10:12.220 You have obligations.

00:10:13.580 She's going to tell you what those obligations are.

00:10:15.480 And they are, not to be a spoiler, but to silence anyone who dares disagree with me, the all-powerful Oz.

00:10:22.740 Keep playing.

00:10:23.220 ...views dictate who receives the privilege of speaking on that platform, and who does not.

00:10:30.280 Stop.

00:10:31.540 The privilege.

00:10:33.380 She's saying, by the way, and to be clear, it's not just Donald Trump that has the privilege of speaking on that platform.

00:10:41.320 Twitter has become the public square.

00:10:43.460 X today has become the public square.

00:10:46.200 It is the most important forum on planet Earth for free speech.

00:10:49.380 And in Kamala's leftist totalitarian view, and that's what this is.

00:10:54.160 This is government unchecked power.

00:10:56.760 It is merely a privilege, and a privilege that she, as the dictator, can revoke if you dare disagree with her.

00:11:04.860 It is not a privilege.

00:11:06.280 The First Amendment says Congress shall make no law abridging the freedom of speech.

00:11:10.540 It's not a privilege.

00:11:11.460 It is a right protected in the Bill of Rights.

00:11:13.720 Keep playing.

00:11:14.700 He violated the terms of use, and there should be a consequence for that.

00:11:18.680 Not to mention the fact that he has used his platform, being the President of the United States, in a way that has been about inciting fear and potentially inciting harm against...

00:11:29.780 So, number one, she says there should be a consequence.

00:11:35.060 Notice, she is threatening, we will punish you.

00:11:38.960 If you do not obey, we will punish you.

00:11:41.520 And to be clear, she's not talking about silencing an ordinary citizen.

00:11:47.040 She's talking about silencing, this is 2019, the sitting President of the United States.

00:11:52.140 She wants him banned from speaking.

00:11:53.800 Why?

00:11:54.740 Because she says he has incited fear.

00:11:57.340 So, in other words, when he talks about the threats of murderers coming across our southern border, when he talks about the threats of terrorists coming across our southern border, well, in her world, that's inciting fear.

00:12:09.060 That's a message she does not want people to hear.

00:12:12.000 Why? 0.97

00:12:12.520 Because she wants as many illegal immigrants, including murderers and terrorists, coming across our southern border. 1.00

00:12:18.260 And if you incite fear, well, that's really inconvenient for her political agenda.

00:12:24.140 Keep going.

00:12:24.620 ...ness to what might be a crime against our country and our democracy.

00:12:29.740 And for that reason, I do believe that he is, that it's clear that he has violated the terms of use.

00:12:35.400 And I'm asking that Twitter does what it has done in previous occasions, which is to revoke someone's privilege, because they have not, they've not lived up to the, to the advantages of the privilege.

00:12:46.340 Revoke someone's privileges.

00:12:47.660 That is radical.

00:12:49.540 Yep.

00:12:49.720 And by the way, at the time, Jack Dorsey was the CEO.

00:12:53.500 Jack Dorsey is someone who does not respect free speech, who had used Twitter repeatedly to censor aggressively.

00:13:00.060 When Elon Musk bought Twitter, he released the Twitter files.

00:13:02.620 So we now know just how eager Jack Dorsey was to censor people who dared disagree with the leftist orthodoxy.

00:13:08.940 But even Jack Dorsey, this was too much for him.

00:13:12.900 He did not ban Donald Trump in 2019 when Kamala Harris asked him to from Twitter.

00:13:17.800 He didn't do it then.

00:13:18.720 But she was saying she's demanding that they silence the existing, the sitting president, because she doesn't like what he's saying.

00:13:28.620 Now, I want to play another interview, actually, that Jake Tapper did with Kamala Harris the same month, October of 2019, and on the same topic.

00:13:39.880 So this is a different night, but the same rough time period.

00:13:43.920 Play the second interview.

00:13:44.760 He has lost his privileges, and it should be taken down.

00:13:48.460 And the bottom line is that you can't say that you have one rule for Facebook and you have a different rule for Twitter.

00:13:53.720 The same rule has to apply, which is that there has to be a responsibility that is placed on these social media sites to understand their power.

00:14:03.060 They are directly speaking to millions and millions of people without any level of oversight or regulation.

00:14:11.880 And that has to stop.

00:14:13.040 That may be the single most anti-free speech statement I have ever heard a political candidate give.

00:14:38.480 She is saying that the government must provide oversight and regulation of any platform that, in her words, speaks to millions of people.

00:14:52.160 Because if you are effective in free speech, if you reach a lot of people, the government is going to decide whether you get this privilege or not.

00:15:03.440 If you care about free speech, that ought to scare the hell out of you.

00:15:06.800 And let me be clear.

00:15:08.540 Listen, the difference between me and Kamala Harris could not be more stark.

00:15:12.060 She wants to silence her opponent.

00:15:14.020 She wants to silence Donald Trump.

00:15:15.460 She wants to silence Elon Musk.

00:15:16.860 She wants to ban X, all of it.

00:15:19.600 I believe if she's president, she will try to do that.

00:15:22.360 I'm sure she wants to silence you and me, Ben.

00:15:25.900 Let's be clear about the difference.

00:15:27.260 Oh, yeah.

00:15:28.540 It would silence anyone.

00:15:29.800 You and I do not want to silence her.

00:15:33.140 I would vigorously oppose any effort to censor or silence her.

00:15:36.760 I don't want to silence Bernie Sanders.

00:15:38.400 I don't want to silence AOC. 1.00

00:15:39.620 See, I think I think their their policies are blithering idiocy. 0.99

00:15:43.520 So I want people to hear what they're saying. 1.00

00:15:45.360 Look, in this podcast, we are playing her words.

00:15:48.100 We're not silencing them.

00:15:49.180 We're doing the opposite, which is look.

00:15:51.540 John Stuart Mill said the best cure for bad speech is more speech.

00:15:55.180 If we were totalitarians, this is not there's not a both sides does this.

00:15:59.500 We're not saying silence the other side.

00:16:01.700 Use power.

00:16:02.280 We're saying, no, no, no.

00:16:03.180 She has a right to prattle on to her heart's content.

00:16:07.480 And if you don't like what she's saying, that the remedy for that is to lay out the truth, the facts, the argument and prove why she's wrong.

00:16:18.260 It is also scary just how easy it rolls off their tongue and how quickly they're willing to just go automatically to.

00:16:25.800 Well, you should just silence someone.

00:16:27.800 And and this is, I think, part of what the Democratic Party has become.

00:16:32.720 They do believe that every American that disagrees with them, there should be a consequence for their views.

00:16:39.640 There should be a consequence for their statements, for their words.

00:16:45.540 We also heard and I'll never forget this because I've said this before, Senator.

00:16:51.480 Believe them when they say what they say.

00:16:54.300 Believe them when they tell you what their plan is.

00:16:56.600 Remember when they said that we need reeducation camps for Trump supporters and Trump voters?

00:17:01.960 And it wasn't just one person said it.

00:17:04.060 It was like the entire Democratic Party singing in verse on a Sunday morning in choir together.

00:17:10.720 It was like weeks of we need to we need to reeducate these people.

00:17:15.540 Well, and they have a new mantra that that if you disagree with leftist orthodoxy, you are a, quote, enemy of democracy.

00:17:25.220 And that's their new justification in in defense of democracy.

00:17:30.060 They're going to silence half the country in defense of democracy.

00:17:33.120 They're going to muzzle free speech in defense of democracy.

00:17:36.500 They're going to ensure that you can only say what they want you to say.

00:17:41.500 Look, that reminds me of Inigo Montoya in The Prince's Pride.

00:17:44.720 You keep on using that word.

00:17:45.740 I don't think it means what you think it means.

00:17:47.660 That is not, in fact, what democracy means.

00:17:50.380 Democracy does not mean the government has the power to silence you if you dare disagree with your government overlords.

00:17:56.780 In fact, that would be precisely the opposite of democracy.

00:18:00.780 But with Orwellian irony, they use the word democracy to justify their silencing their opponents.

00:18:09.600 I want you to play now Kamala Harris when she went to speak at the NAACP. 0.96

00:18:15.500 Again, and this is in 2019 during the presidential campaign.

00:18:19.300 Listen to what she promised to do if she became president. 0.94

00:18:24.040 And we'll put the Department of Justice of the United States back in the business of justice.

00:18:32.460 We will double the civil rights division and direct law enforcement to counter this extremism.

00:18:39.860 We will hold social media platforms accountable for the hate infiltrating their platforms

00:18:47.080 because they have a responsibility to help fight against this threat to our democracy.

00:18:54.500 And if you profit off of hate, if you act as a megaphone for misinformation or cyber warfare,

00:19:03.440 if you don't police your platforms, we are going to hold you accountable as a community.

00:19:12.760 Wow.

00:19:13.400 Hold you accountable.

00:19:14.280 And who is it that's going to hold you accountable?

00:19:17.180 The United States Department of Justice.

00:19:19.420 That is a threat to X, to Facebook, to every social media site, to every internet site, to every media site.

00:19:27.760 If you dare, what she says is if you act as a platform for misinformation,

00:19:33.100 understand what she means by misinformation is anything she disagrees with.

00:19:38.480 If it is not.

00:19:39.500 A.k.a. 50% of America, you must silence. 0.63

00:19:41.400 Yes, and the Department of Justice is going to do it.

00:19:45.440 We will hold you accountable.

00:19:47.700 She's threatening government power to force censorship, and if big tech doesn't go along with it,

00:19:56.220 the Department of Justice will come after it.

00:19:58.240 You know, Jonathan Turley, who is a great...

00:20:00.080 Does that mean, let me ask you this real quick.

00:20:01.140 Does that mean, when you say come after, I think people need to understand what that means.

00:20:04.340 Like, we hear that and we think, okay, it's going to be like a parking ticket.

00:20:07.260 I don't think that's what she means, but there's a lot of people like, well, that just means you're going to get, like, a little fine.

00:20:13.220 I think what she means is what they've done so far with people they don't like.

00:20:17.260 They want to put you in jail.

00:20:19.000 They would be locking up people that work at these companies as the threat and massive fines that could bankrupt companies.

00:20:26.620 Well, to understand that they want to put you in jail, look at what they're doing on January 6th.

00:20:31.780 The prosecution from January 6th, the Department of Justice, Jack Smith, is trying to prosecute Donald Trump.

00:20:37.360 And you know what they're using as a basis for the prosecution?

00:20:40.360 Tweets he sent.

00:20:41.420 He sent tweets, and they're trying to put him in jail for it.

00:20:43.660 By the way, we covered in this podcast a couple of weeks ago, in the United Kingdom,

00:20:47.620 they sentenced a man to 20 months in jail for a Facebook post.

00:20:53.000 Yeah, that was just a couple of weeks ago.

00:20:55.360 That is happening right now.

00:20:58.500 And so, listen, we've seen under Joe Biden, the Department of Justice weaponized,

00:21:05.140 the difference between Biden and Kamala, Biden is a puppet.

00:21:08.760 He is unaware of what's going on around himself.

00:21:11.640 And so, he is manipulated by the hard left, the radicals in his party.

00:21:18.020 Kamala is a true believer.

00:21:20.440 She believes in this.

00:21:22.420 She is eager to use government power. 1.00

00:21:25.980 And I was mentioning a second ago, Jonathan Turley, who's a terrific law professor at GW.

00:21:30.900 He is a friend, and he's a really good thinker.

00:21:34.060 Um, he wrote, uh, an op-ed, uh, on September 4th that is entitled, quote,

00:21:40.680 That has to stop.

00:21:41.600 Harris denounces unfettered free speech in 2019 CNN interview.

00:21:46.220 And it's the one we played just a minute ago.

00:21:48.020 But I want to read a couple of paragraphs from his op-ed because it's really, really strong.

00:21:52.760 Here's how he opens, quote,

00:21:54.500 I previously wrote how a Harris-Waltz administration would be a nightmare for free speech.

00:21:58.740 Both candidates, that would be Harris and Waltz, have shown a pronounced anti-free speech values.

00:22:07.020 Now, ex-owner Elon Musk and former independent presidential candidate Robert F. Kennedy Jr.

00:22:12.580 have posted a Harris interview to show the depths of the hostility of Harris to unfettered free speech.

00:22:18.080 I have long argued that Trump and the third-party candidates should make free speech a central issue in this campaign.

00:22:24.460 That has not happened.

00:22:25.540 Yet, Kennedy was the only candidate who was substantially and regularly talking about free speech in this election.

00:22:31.600 Yet, Musk and Kennedy are still trying to raise the chilling potential of a Harris-Waltz administration.

00:22:40.440 And then I want to focus on the end of Turley's article because it's, it's, it's, it's really good.

00:22:46.580 Um, he's talking about, uh, the, the end of it, he says, quote,

00:22:52.020 quote, for free speech advocates, the 2024 election is looking strikingly similar to the election of 1800.

00:23:01.680 One of the greatest villains in our history, discussed in my book, was President John Adams,

00:23:08.100 who used the Alien and Sedition Acts to arrest his political opponents,

00:23:14.000 including journalists, members of Congress, and others.

00:23:19.760 Many of those prosecuted by the Adams administration were Jeffersonians.

00:23:25.700 In the election of 1800, Thomas Jefferson ran on the issue and defeated Adams.

00:23:33.440 It was the only presidential election in our history where free speech was a central issue for voters.

00:23:40.420 It should be, again, while democracy is really not on the ballot this election, free speech is.

00:23:49.800 Turley, Professor Turley is exactly right.

00:23:52.700 That is powerful.

00:23:54.060 It is profound.

00:23:55.000 It is true.

00:23:56.860 And, and, and I, look, I've spent my entire adult life fighting to defend the Constitution and the Bill of Rights and free speech in particular.

00:24:05.760 I am passionate about free speech.

00:24:08.540 And, and you and I are ringing the alarm bells.

00:24:13.340 The threat that Kamala Harris and Tim Walz posed to free speech, it is greater than any candidate in our lifetime and greater than any candidate in two centuries.

00:24:22.540 Amen to that.

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00:27:09.300 Senator, there was also something else that happened, and it was just weird.

00:27:13.880 When I say weird, like a next-level weird.

00:27:17.740 CNN, and I've got two theories I want your take on this,

00:27:22.280 came out and did a three-and-a-half-minute segment

00:27:25.460 attacking Kamala Harris in primetime,

00:27:29.860 attacking her for using Trump's wall in her new border ads.

00:27:34.480 They actually went back years, all the way back to 2017.

00:27:39.560 And they were proud of themselves, patting themselves on their back

00:27:42.840 for finding more than 50 instances of Harris slamming Trump's border wall.

00:27:48.440 And they put this story together.

00:27:49.920 Now, I want to play it, but there's two things here that I think could be a possibility.

00:27:54.480 A, CNN has become so irrelevant with no one watching,

00:27:58.520 and the ratings back up that point,

00:28:00.740 that they're desperate to get their ratings back.

00:28:03.580 Having Trump in office delivers that to them.

00:28:07.220 The highest ratings that CNN's had in years

00:28:09.400 was when Donald Trump was in office and they were attacking him 24-7,

00:28:13.000 and that brought the crazies in to watch them.

00:28:15.920 That's option number one.

00:28:18.060 Option number two is, are they doing this, Senator,

00:28:21.040 because they're realizing that Harris and this big bump

00:28:25.300 she was supposed to have from the convention

00:28:26.680 didn't actually happen?

00:28:28.720 Are they hedging their bets?

00:28:30.200 Do they think she might lose?

00:28:31.720 And so they want to look like they're actual journalists?

00:28:34.480 Or could both of those be true at the same time?

00:28:38.040 Well, let's play this first,

00:28:40.860 because it really is a stunning piece,

00:28:42.900 and it simply takes the fact that she's spending millions of dollars 1.00

00:28:46.140 advertising and featuring the border wall

00:28:48.360 as something she now supports.

00:28:50.340 And it contrasts that with her record

00:28:52.520 for years and years and years,

00:28:55.060 viciously, passionately, emphatically opposing the border wall.

00:28:59.360 And I'll tell you, the contrast is striking.

00:29:01.560 Give a listen, and remember, this is CNN.

00:29:05.620 Tonight, K-File investigates.

00:29:07.740 In a new report you'll see first out front,

00:29:09.740 the K-File team scoured Kamala Harris' tweets

00:29:12.700 and statements going all the way back to 2017.

00:29:15.360 And what they found was more than 50 instances

00:29:18.780 of Harris slamming Trump's border wall.

00:29:21.920 But now, new Harris campaign ads

00:29:24.620 actually showcase that very wall.

00:29:28.400 As a border state prosecutor,

00:29:30.320 she took on drug cartels 1.00

00:29:31.920 and jailed gang members

00:29:33.380 for smuggling weapons and drugs across the border.

00:29:36.620 And on top of critical tweets,

00:29:39.180 Harris also wrote in her 2019 book, quote,

00:29:42.480 there was a bigger reason to oppose the border wall,

00:29:44.640 a useless wall on the southern border

00:29:46.260 would be nothing more than a symbol,

00:29:47.860 a monument standing in opposition

00:29:49.240 to not just everything I value,

00:29:51.200 but to the fundamental values

00:29:52.340 upon which this country was built.

00:29:53.980 How could I vote to build

00:29:55.260 what would be little more than a monument

00:29:57.060 designed to send the cold, hard message,

00:29:59.580 keep out?

00:30:00.740 Well, K-File's Andrew Kaczynski joins me now.

00:30:03.280 So, Andrew, I mean, you and you all have gone through,

00:30:07.000 I mean, scoured an incredible amount of material.

00:30:10.380 Tell me more about what you found.

00:30:11.640 Yeah, that's right.

00:30:12.380 We found more than 50 of those tweets

00:30:14.660 criticizing the border wall

00:30:15.900 before she used that in her ad.

00:30:17.420 And I want people to take a look

00:30:18.680 at just a few of what she said here. 0.51

00:30:21.580 She called it wasteful, useless, 0.85

00:30:23.840 a waste of taxpayer money, 0.96

00:30:25.680 a vanity wall project,

00:30:27.120 a wasteful border wall, 1.00

00:30:28.740 a stupid wall, 1.00

00:30:30.280 a medieval vanity project, 1.00

00:30:32.180 and an unnecessary wall.

00:30:34.540 And those are really just,

00:30:35.580 I mean, there were more of this,

00:30:36.420 just like 10 or like 50.

00:30:38.600 But there was really,

00:30:39.740 there was really a lot of this

00:30:40.580 was the common refrain during the campaign.

00:30:42.760 You read that quote where she said

00:30:43.880 it was against everything

00:30:44.720 that not only she stood for,

00:30:46.480 everything America stood aboard.

00:30:48.860 But, and she brought this up a lot.

00:30:50.420 Take a listen to just one instance of that in 2019.

00:30:55.100 It's the president's vanity project.

00:30:56.980 His multi-billion dollar vanity project

00:31:00.200 called a wall

00:31:01.080 is nothing more than a distraction

00:31:03.800 from the fact that he actually

00:31:06.040 hasn't focused on working people in America.

00:31:09.340 He contrived a national crisis

00:31:12.520 around his big distraction.

00:31:16.440 All right, so you go through all of that,

00:31:18.800 you've got all the tweets,

00:31:19.780 and yet all of a sudden in the ads

00:31:21.320 there's pictures of the wall,

00:31:22.920 and then you went through to look at that wall.

00:31:24.800 Like, what is that specific wall

00:31:26.760 that's in her campaign ads now?

00:31:28.720 And you found something very interesting

00:31:30.440 about this specific portion of the wall.

00:31:32.660 And what's, I think,

00:31:33.460 what's also really remarkable,

00:31:34.780 this is like, I mean,

00:31:35.480 you heard her talking about it there,

00:31:36.700 that Trump's wall in his campaign

00:31:38.520 during his presidency,

00:31:39.320 there was really no greater symbol

00:31:41.120 of Trump's presidency

00:31:42.100 than the wall

00:31:42.820 and the way that Democrats

00:31:43.640 were attacking him

00:31:44.520 over the wall

00:31:45.400 and his restrictive immigration policies.

00:31:47.480 So we looked in that ad,

00:31:48.780 and if you look at it,

00:31:49.880 that exact area of wall

00:31:51.780 is in Sasabe or Sasabe, Arizona,

00:31:54.960 and that is a portion of wall

00:31:56.280 that was actually built by Donald Trump.

00:31:58.560 It was built in an area

00:32:00.340 where there was not previous wall.

00:32:02.580 It was actually pretty controversial

00:32:03.660 when they were building it at the time.

00:32:06.500 So just to see that,

00:32:07.680 and then there are other...

00:32:08.280 She's using his wall that he built

00:32:10.040 to say, look at what I did, basically.

00:32:12.240 And the other images of the wall,

00:32:14.220 we weren't able to pinpoint,

00:32:16.240 but there's telltale signs

00:32:17.700 that that was a Trump wall

00:32:18.660 because there's an anti-climbing plate on top

00:32:20.840 that became popularized

00:32:22.340 during the Trump years.

00:32:23.640 It's really incredible reporting

00:32:25.100 and important, right?

00:32:26.500 Andrew Kaczynski and K-File,

00:32:27.860 thank you very much.

00:32:29.460 Now, there's also another theory, Senator,

00:32:31.480 and that could be

00:32:32.160 they were just so embarrassed...

00:32:32.980 So, so, so, hold on.

00:32:33.980 Before the theories,

00:32:35.160 before the theories,

00:32:35.800 I do want to take the very end,

00:32:37.020 the comment,

00:32:37.500 it's really incredible reporting.

00:32:39.680 So, actually, no, it's not.

00:32:41.460 It's not incredible reporting.

00:32:43.180 To say

00:32:45.660 one nominee for president

00:32:48.660 is spending millions of dollars

00:32:50.360 running ads

00:32:51.260 claiming to support something

00:32:53.420 that she spent

00:32:54.320 her entire professional career

00:32:56.760 denouncing

00:32:57.860 over and over and over again.

00:33:00.520 Like, that's not incredible reporting.

00:33:02.420 That's called just actually doing your job.

00:33:04.360 That is, in fact,

00:33:05.480 what reporters are supposed to do. 0.64

00:33:07.780 And this is a story

00:33:09.600 that illustrates

00:33:10.180 that her campaign

00:33:11.380 is built

00:33:12.360 on deception.

00:33:14.040 It's built on lying.

00:33:15.140 Understand.

00:33:16.760 This goes back to

00:33:17.960 why is it

00:33:18.740 in the six weeks

00:33:20.040 since Kamala Harris

00:33:20.920 became the presumptive

00:33:22.440 Democrat nominee,

00:33:23.420 she's done precisely

00:33:24.320 one media interview,

00:33:25.820 actually, with CNN,

00:33:27.000 the fake interview

00:33:28.260 she did with Dana Bash

00:33:29.300 that we broke down.

00:33:30.460 If you didn't listen

00:33:31.040 to the podcast

00:33:31.580 analyzing the Dana Bash interview,

00:33:33.260 you ought to

00:33:33.720 because it was not an interview.

00:33:35.120 It was a campaign commercial

00:33:36.180 that protected her.

00:33:40.580 But, other than that,

00:33:42.160 she's done no media interviews,

00:33:43.560 she's done zero press conferences,

00:33:45.140 and it's because

00:33:46.040 her strategy

00:33:47.940 is to hide

00:33:49.040 from everything

00:33:49.580 she's ever said,

00:33:50.500 everything she's ever done,

00:33:51.820 every vote she's ever cast,

00:33:53.740 to hide from her record

00:33:55.480 and instead

00:33:56.240 to claim

00:33:59.340 that she supports things

00:34:01.560 she does not support.

00:34:03.440 Now, listen,

00:34:03.880 her left-wing supporters

00:34:04.880 are not upset

00:34:07.020 that she is running ads

00:34:08.980 picturing the border wall.

00:34:10.520 Why?

00:34:11.060 Because they know she's lying.

00:34:12.320 Everyone knows she's lying.

00:34:14.140 But CNN

00:34:14.980 called her out

00:34:17.080 and it,

00:34:18.500 that is in fact

00:34:19.600 the job of journalism

00:34:20.920 to call people out

00:34:22.960 when their record

00:34:24.720 is directly contrary

00:34:26.120 to what they're saying

00:34:27.180 on the campaign trail.

00:34:28.020 You look at the CNN interview

00:34:30.840 that you mentioned

00:34:31.620 and that was my third,

00:34:33.260 my third possibility

00:34:34.980 is

00:34:35.380 it really seemed

00:34:37.140 to do some damage

00:34:38.080 to CNN.

00:34:39.300 They were embarrassed

00:34:40.280 at how much

00:34:41.700 they were called out

00:34:42.680 for just propaganda

00:34:43.900 that night.

00:34:45.020 Even from putting live,

00:34:46.880 you and I talked about this,

00:34:48.140 putting up live

00:34:49.280 on the screen

00:34:50.820 when the interview

00:34:51.580 was taped.

00:34:53.960 So let me ask you

00:34:54.940 something, Ben.

00:34:55.740 So Ben,

00:34:56.800 you spent a lot of years

00:34:58.120 as a paid CNN employee.

00:35:00.760 Yes.

00:35:01.320 Seven years in hell

00:35:02.140 is what I call it.

00:35:03.580 Yeah.

00:35:04.160 You said they were embarrassed.

00:35:05.680 Do you think

00:35:05.980 they actually were embarrassed?

00:35:07.180 I'm not sure

00:35:07.900 they can be embarrassed

00:35:08.660 so I'm actually curious

00:35:09.520 about your thoughts on this.

00:35:10.820 So I actually think

00:35:12.120 they were

00:35:12.600 because they were

00:35:13.280 just ridiculed.

00:35:14.360 It was daylight outside.

00:35:16.080 It was prime time

00:35:17.020 at night

00:35:17.380 when they aired it.

00:35:18.560 It was obvious

00:35:19.420 that it wasn't live.

00:35:21.300 And when you do something

00:35:23.040 that egregious,

00:35:24.460 I think even people

00:35:26.320 that are left of center

00:35:28.640 are like,

00:35:29.720 come on.

00:35:30.360 Like, really?

00:35:31.200 Like, you think 0.99

00:35:31.920 we're dumb enough 0.99

00:35:32.600 to believe 0.98

00:35:33.200 that it's daytime right now

00:35:35.220 while we're watching it

00:35:36.440 at nighttime 0.99

00:35:36.900 and we're dumb enough 0.98

00:35:37.960 to believe it's live 0.99

00:35:38.940 when we already know

00:35:40.340 it's been taped

00:35:41.120 and it's been well publicized

00:35:42.500 it was taped?

00:35:43.180 But I also think

00:35:44.040 the other part

00:35:44.620 that hurt them

00:35:45.440 and embarrassed them

00:35:46.380 was the interview

00:35:47.420 was incredibly short

00:35:49.080 compared to what

00:35:50.460 normal interviews

00:35:51.340 of this magnitude are.

00:35:52.900 I mean,

00:35:53.180 you look at the town hall

00:35:54.560 last night

00:35:55.200 that happened

00:35:56.320 with Trump

00:35:57.020 and Hannity.

00:35:58.320 I mean,

00:35:58.700 it's solid hour plus

00:36:00.500 on these things

00:36:01.300 and her interview

00:36:02.540 taped,

00:36:03.740 edited

00:36:04.040 in the daytime

00:36:05.700 and then,

00:36:06.300 you know,

00:36:06.640 claiming it's live

00:36:07.480 at night.

00:36:08.180 I think that

00:36:09.240 that is a point

00:36:10.120 where they're like,

00:36:10.560 okay,

00:36:10.820 maybe we have to

00:36:11.700 bring the pendulum

00:36:12.240 back here a little bit

00:36:13.140 because we look so much

00:36:14.600 like we are a mouthpiece

00:36:15.820 for a campaign

00:36:16.600 and if she loses

00:36:18.000 that puts us

00:36:18.680 in a really bad situation.

00:36:20.460 Look,

00:36:21.380 that's possible

00:36:22.180 and you asked

00:36:23.060 a minute ago

00:36:23.680 if they're trying

00:36:24.300 to cover their bases.

00:36:25.700 You know,

00:36:25.940 I actually,

00:36:27.280 you know,

00:36:27.840 I'm a believer

00:36:28.720 in Occam's razor

00:36:29.960 that sometimes

00:36:30.540 the simplest explanation

00:36:31.680 is the best.

00:36:33.880 I actually think

00:36:35.060 in this instance

00:36:35.980 the dissonance,

00:36:38.220 the contrast

00:36:39.480 between

00:36:40.360 what Kamala Harris 0.69

00:36:42.560 is campaigning on

00:36:43.740 and what she has said

00:36:45.480 for her entire career,

00:36:48.080 it is so massive

00:36:50.440 that I think

00:36:52.860 they just ended up

00:36:53.900 saying,

00:36:54.280 all right,

00:36:54.540 let's say it.

00:36:55.760 I actually think

00:36:56.660 even though

00:36:57.180 they're propagandists,

00:36:58.920 it,

00:36:59.480 to see her

00:37:01.600 embracing

00:37:02.640 Trump's border wall

00:37:06.000 is a level

00:37:07.900 at which,

00:37:08.620 you know,

00:37:08.980 I asked a minute ago

00:37:09.900 if they could get embarrassed.

00:37:11.000 I think for a brief

00:37:12.460 moment in time,

00:37:14.000 they actually

00:37:15.080 wanted to be journalists

00:37:17.000 and I have a,

00:37:19.640 and by the way,

00:37:20.460 let's be clear,

00:37:21.120 this is a remarkable podcast.

00:37:22.620 It may be the only podcast

00:37:23.540 we've ever done

00:37:24.240 where twice now

00:37:26.060 I praise CNN.

00:37:28.160 I praise CNN

00:37:29.060 at the beginning

00:37:29.580 of the podcast

00:37:30.260 for Jake Tapper's

00:37:31.360 question

00:37:31.860 of Kamala Harris.

00:37:33.080 That was a real question.

00:37:34.060 It was a good question,

00:37:35.080 Jake.

00:37:35.520 It was a question

00:37:36.980 a journalist

00:37:37.740 would and should ask

00:37:39.200 and listen,

00:37:40.580 this story,

00:37:41.340 this story

00:37:41.940 is a question

00:37:42.660 a journalist

00:37:43.780 would and should cover.

00:37:44.940 By the way,

00:37:45.400 has ABC run

00:37:47.220 this story?

00:37:48.540 No.

00:37:49.080 NBC?

00:37:49.920 CBS?

00:37:50.760 No.

00:37:51.160 MSNBC?

00:37:52.060 Nope.

00:37:52.520 Like, wait,

00:37:53.420 they say they're journalists.

00:37:55.080 I mean,

00:37:55.660 CNN doesn't have it exclusive.

00:37:57.640 Do you think

00:37:58.440 MSNBC knows

00:38:01.140 that she's lying

00:38:02.660 when she runs an ad

00:38:03.840 saying,

00:38:04.340 look at this border wall?

00:38:05.780 Yeah, well,

00:38:06.360 look,

00:38:06.760 there's also another possibility

00:38:08.180 that you and I

00:38:08.900 have been having this discussion.

00:38:09.980 It could be

00:38:10.600 this is their way

00:38:11.340 of slapping Kamala

00:38:12.500 on the hand

00:38:13.140 for not being radical enough.

00:38:15.600 Like,

00:38:15.720 no, no, no.

00:38:16.240 We don't go to border wall

00:38:17.480 and if you do it,

00:38:18.260 we're going to embarrass you. 0.85

00:38:19.820 You're supposed to

00:38:20.800 hate the border wall.

00:38:23.180 That's who you are.

00:38:24.060 We're going to remind you

00:38:24.920 of who you are

00:38:25.760 and we're going to make you

00:38:26.800 look bad

00:38:27.280 when you pander this way

00:38:28.960 on an issue

00:38:29.440 we disagree with.

00:38:30.580 That also could be part of

00:38:32.180 what the executive producers

00:38:34.080 at CNN

00:38:34.520 were so mad about.

00:38:36.460 Yeah,

00:38:36.920 look,

00:38:37.320 maybe.

00:38:37.680 You know,

00:38:38.980 years ago,

00:38:41.760 one of my very first bosses

00:38:43.180 had a bit of advice

00:38:45.380 for me

00:38:45.680 that I think

00:38:46.000 was really insightful

00:38:46.800 and it was about government

00:38:47.720 and it was

00:38:49.280 never ascribed to malice

00:38:51.200 what can be explained

00:38:52.620 with incompetence.

00:38:54.640 In this instance,

00:38:56.340 at least to me,

00:38:57.680 I'm not reading

00:38:58.620 a whole lot

00:38:59.360 of Machiavellian,

00:39:00.700 you know,

00:39:03.480 positioning

00:39:04.180 in CNN

00:39:05.060 doing this.

00:39:05.840 I think it was just

00:39:07.400 they were like, 0.99

00:39:08.760 holy crap, 0.99

00:39:09.460 this is BS. 0.99

00:39:12.540 I hope that is.

00:39:14.020 I mean,

00:39:14.220 that's actually

00:39:15.200 a human instinct

00:39:16.980 and it is an instinct

00:39:19.320 a journalist

00:39:19.860 is supposed to have.

00:39:20.880 Now,

00:39:21.040 maybe I'm being naive.

00:39:22.300 I mean,

00:39:22.480 Ben,

00:39:22.760 maybe you're

00:39:23.300 more cynical

00:39:24.480 than I am on this

00:39:25.440 and maybe I'm not

00:39:26.340 cynical enough.

00:39:28.400 100%.

00:39:28.840 I would say this way,

00:39:30.800 I wish

00:39:31.440 that I thought

00:39:32.640 the way you thought

00:39:33.360 on this.

00:39:34.320 I just think

00:39:35.160 this is too big

00:39:36.360 of a 180

00:39:36.980 from them 0.99

00:39:37.780 sucking up

00:39:38.800 to Kamala Harris 0.99

00:39:39.560 a week ago.

00:39:41.180 Like,

00:39:41.360 it's like,

00:39:41.900 what happened

00:39:42.640 in the last week?

00:39:42.860 Yes,

00:39:43.020 but to be clear,

00:39:43.940 it is different.

00:39:45.280 Okay,

00:39:45.500 it is different.

00:39:47.140 Listen,

00:39:47.500 one of the reasons

00:39:48.100 that we didn't talk

00:39:48.900 about this,

00:39:49.500 I think,

00:39:50.180 in our podcast

00:39:53.380 analyzing the

00:39:54.300 Dana Bash

00:39:54.800 fake interview,

00:39:55.940 but I do think

00:39:58.080 a component

00:39:58.800 is CNN

00:39:59.540 desperately

00:40:01.160 wanted that interview.

00:40:03.060 like the Kamala Harris

00:40:04.400 campaign

00:40:04.860 put it out there,

00:40:06.140 hey,

00:40:06.520 we're going to do

00:40:07.020 an interview

00:40:07.360 with someone

00:40:08.000 and we want to see

00:40:10.280 who will kiss 1.00

00:40:11.020 our ass the most. 1.00

00:40:12.020 If you're just 1.00

00:40:12.520 doing it a little,

00:40:13.260 no,

00:40:13.440 that's not enough.

00:40:14.480 We want both lips

00:40:15.680 full pucker.

00:40:16.560 We want enthusiasm.

00:40:19.040 And I do think

00:40:20.300 there was a level

00:40:21.140 of just corporate

00:40:22.260 servility

00:40:23.040 that we want

00:40:25.180 this interview

00:40:26.020 and we will

00:40:27.200 abase ourselves.

00:40:28.900 we will abandon

00:40:31.000 any pretext

00:40:32.180 of journalistic

00:40:33.960 ethics.

00:40:34.380 We'll do

00:40:34.980 anything we can

00:40:36.520 to get this

00:40:38.320 interview.

00:40:38.840 And so,

00:40:39.420 I think it's

00:40:41.160 easier in a story

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00:40:43.200 have Kamala Harris

00:40:44.140 and particularly

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00:42:33.660 Senator,

00:42:34.080 we are just days away

00:42:35.620 from the first

00:42:36.600 presidential debate

00:42:37.640 between the new candidate

00:42:39.500 that no one voted for

00:42:40.940 in Kamala Harris

00:42:41.780 and Donald Trump.

00:42:44.580 I got to ask you

00:42:45.940 as debate prep

00:42:46.980 is happening,

00:42:47.760 maybe as we speak

00:42:48.940 right now,

00:42:50.140 what do you think

00:42:51.200 the biggest vulnerability

00:42:52.580 is now for Harris

00:42:54.100 that we're in this thing

00:42:55.380 post-convention?

00:42:56.920 Is it the flip-flop

00:42:58.340 on the border?

00:42:59.520 Is it freedom of speech?

00:43:01.580 Is it national security issues?

00:43:04.020 What do you think

00:43:04.840 now the real issues are

00:43:06.360 two months out

00:43:07.240 from election day?

00:43:08.500 Look,

00:43:09.080 it's her record.

00:43:10.600 Why is it

00:43:11.680 that she's hiding

00:43:12.440 in Joe Biden's basement?

00:43:14.200 Because she's terrified

00:43:15.300 of her record.

00:43:16.100 Her record's a failure.

00:43:17.560 The Biden-Harris record

00:43:18.920 of the last four years

00:43:20.000 is terrible.

00:43:21.200 Whether it's inflation

00:43:22.200 in the economy,

00:43:23.340 whether it's crime,

00:43:24.980 whether it's the disaster

00:43:26.100 at the southern border,

00:43:27.500 whether it is the absolute wreck

00:43:29.540 of foreign policy

00:43:30.780 that has led

00:43:32.040 to the war in Ukraine,

00:43:33.980 the war in Israel,

00:43:35.400 the anti-Semitic protests

00:43:36.780 on college campuses,

00:43:38.060 the radicalization

00:43:38.900 of the Democrat Party,

00:43:40.840 her record

00:43:41.980 is a disaster.

00:43:44.100 That's why she's desperately

00:43:45.420 trying to run away from it.

00:43:47.640 That's why she's hiding 0.86

00:43:48.760 from the media

00:43:49.340 because she doesn't want 0.99

00:43:50.040 to talk about her record.

00:43:52.180 We're going on

00:43:53.140 the next podcast.

00:43:54.260 We're going to talk about

00:43:55.240 what to expect

00:43:56.780 in the debate.

00:43:57.500 And after the debate,

00:43:58.540 we'll do a podcast

00:43:59.300 analyzing exactly

00:44:00.520 what we heard.

00:44:01.180 Listen,

00:44:01.420 this debate matters.

00:44:02.600 This debate matters a lot.

00:44:05.600 Both candidates

00:44:06.640 have risk here.

00:44:08.340 And from her perspective,

00:44:10.540 she wants to run away

00:44:13.480 from her record

00:44:14.380 as much as possible.

00:44:16.200 My hope is that

00:44:18.340 Donald Trump

00:44:19.080 calmly

00:44:20.440 prosecutes the case

00:44:23.140 against her,

00:44:24.320 that her record

00:44:25.620 has been a mess,

00:44:26.780 that all the things

00:44:27.940 she's promising to do,

00:44:29.220 she is in office

00:44:30.500 right now.

00:44:31.660 She is part of

00:44:32.600 the current administration.

00:44:34.740 And

00:44:35.300 I hope that Trump,

00:44:37.420 more than anything,

00:44:38.160 keeps the focus

00:44:39.020 not on him,

00:44:40.860 but on the American people,

00:44:42.500 on the people

00:44:43.200 who have been hurt

00:44:44.260 by the policy failures

00:44:46.360 of Kamala Harris

00:44:48.400 and Joe Biden.

00:44:49.580 If Trump does that,

00:44:50.800 he'll win the debate.

00:44:52.260 Kamala,

00:44:52.660 on the other hand,

00:44:53.940 wants to do

00:44:54.900 everything she can

00:44:56.100 to provoke,

00:44:57.640 to poke Trump

00:44:59.060 into coming across 1.00

00:45:00.980 as a jerk. 1.00

00:45:01.740 That's what she wants. 1.00

00:45:03.960 I don't know

00:45:04.860 that that will happen.

00:45:05.660 I hope it does not happen.

00:45:06.840 But her strategy,

00:45:08.280 she is right now

00:45:09.480 prepping saying,

00:45:10.620 how can I

00:45:11.540 poke the hornet's nest

00:45:13.140 and get him

00:45:14.040 to hurt himself?

00:45:15.600 She's not looking

00:45:16.320 to hurt him.

00:45:17.180 She's looking to get 0.94

00:45:18.180 him to hurt himself.

00:45:19.280 If he can resist that,

00:45:21.940 he'll have a very good

00:45:22.700 debate night.

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Verdict with Ted Cruz - September 06, 2024

Kamala is a MASSIVE Threat to Free Speech, plus Kamala's Border Hypocrisy is too much even for CNN

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