Verdict with Ted Cruz - October 25, 2024


Kamala's October Surprise: Trump is Hitler! plus a Word Salad Mess on a CNN Interview


Episode Stats

Length

40 minutes

Words per Minute

175.64288

Word Count

7,165

Sentence Count

507

Misogynist Sentences

16

Hate Speech Sentences

13


Summary

Sen. Kamala Harris will be in Texas on Friday morning. Ted Cruz and Ben Fergus break down why she s coming to Texas and why it s a bad idea. Plus, Ted and Ben react to the latest CNN Town Hall debacle.


Transcript

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00:00:05.300 Welcome. It is a verdict with Senator Ted Cruz, Ben Ferguson with you.
00:00:09.400 I can't believe I'm getting to say this.
00:00:10.740 We are less than two weeks away from Election Day,
00:00:13.080 and Senator Kamala Harris decided to close the deal
00:00:16.020 with a word salad disaster of a town hall on CNN.
00:00:21.920 It did not go well.
00:00:23.900 Well, her basement strategy has not been working.
00:00:26.440 She tried hiding in Joe Biden's basement and just avoiding everything,
00:00:29.500 and it turned out that the voters actually wanted to hear something
00:00:32.900 from someone who wants to be President of the United States.
00:00:35.140 So then she had a radical strategy.
00:00:37.520 Okay, let's do some interviews, and I've got to say,
00:00:39.600 every interview she does seems to be worse than the last one.
00:00:43.380 This CNN one is truly a train wreck.
00:00:45.840 We're going to break it down in detail, and I've got to say,
00:00:48.860 this is also a special time because as we do this,
00:00:53.300 this is coming out Friday morning, and today Kamala Harris will be in Texas.
00:00:56.720 She has decided in the final two weeks of the campaign to come to Texas.
00:01:01.540 Why?
00:01:01.980 Well, because the Democrat Party has one message and one message only, abortion,
00:01:06.580 and she wants to come and push unlimited abortion on demand in all circumstances
00:01:10.740 with no limitations because that is about the only thing she's willing to talk about.
00:01:15.640 So we welcome Kamala to Texas at the same time that she is in Texas.
00:01:20.940 Texas, I'm going to be in Austin, Donald Trump is going to be there doing the Joe Rogan podcast.
00:01:25.940 By the way, Kamala was invited.
00:01:27.460 She was supposedly going to do Joe Rogan, and then miraculously had a scheduling conflict,
00:01:32.360 had, you know, she had to mow her lawn.
00:01:33.920 I'm not sure what she had to do, but she's not.
00:01:37.120 She's not, in fact, doing Joe Rogan.
00:01:39.240 I have to say, between the two, I am not remotely conflicted who I'm going to be standing with today.
00:01:46.320 Yeah, I couldn't agree with you more on that one.
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00:03:26.780 Senator, before we get to the CNN town hall,
00:03:30.160 there was a very purposeful moment that was created by the Harris campaign,
00:03:36.640 and I think we need to deal with it, and I want to get your reaction.
00:03:40.180 You had Kamala Harris call a, what many would describe as an emergency press conference
00:03:44.860 outside of her residence, the official residence where the vice president lives.
00:03:49.580 And she had this press conference with the American flag behind her.
00:03:56.700 And she had some words about Donald Trump, which I'm really shocked by this,
00:04:03.000 after not one but two and a possible third assassination attempt against Donald Trump.
00:04:08.420 And this is what she said about Donald Trump.
00:04:11.980 And it is clear from John Kelly's words that Donald Trump is someone who I quote,
00:04:19.380 certainly falls into the general definition of fascist,
00:04:23.240 who in fact vowed to be a dictator on day one,
00:04:27.020 and vowed to use the military as his personal militia
00:04:30.440 to carry out his personal and political vendettas.
00:04:36.420 Donald Trump is increasingly unhinged and unstable.
00:04:40.800 And in a second term, people like John Kelly would not be there
00:04:46.420 to be the guardrails against his propensities and his actions.
00:04:52.000 Those who once tried to stop him from pursuing his worst impulses
00:04:57.380 would no longer be there, and no longer be there to rein him in.
00:05:03.600 These words are shocking.
00:05:05.580 She is saying, Donald Trump is going to be Adolf Hitler.
00:05:11.820 And I worry that she's trying to get the man killed by inspiring a crazy person
00:05:16.840 who will hear these words and say, well, I must stop him.
00:05:20.340 I cannot believe we're even having this conversation, Senator.
00:05:23.600 It makes me angry that this is the Democratic candidate who's, I believe,
00:05:27.780 putting his life in more danger.
00:05:29.300 Well, I think Kamala Harris is feeling desperate.
00:05:33.200 I think her campaign is feeling desperate.
00:05:35.380 I think they see the election slipping away from them.
00:05:38.020 I think they see the momentum is going with Trump every day.
00:05:41.700 I think everything they try to change the momentum is failing.
00:05:45.180 And so, you know, it really is fairly remarkable when they say,
00:05:48.060 OK, here's our great strategy.
00:05:50.260 Let's call an emergency press conference to call Trump Hitler.
00:05:54.720 That's that's their strategy.
00:05:56.960 Now, never mind that they've been calling Donald Trump Hitler for a decade now.
00:06:01.180 They called Donald Trump Hitler in 2016.
00:06:03.640 They called him Hitler in 2020.
00:06:05.820 I do find it amazing that that just over a week away from Election Day,
00:06:10.700 their great October surprise is, I know we're going to call him Hitler.
00:06:14.560 No one will see that coming.
00:06:16.300 And, you know, look, I really do have to wonder what what undecided voter do they think they're
00:06:22.620 they're swaying like is there any person alive that doesn't know that that Kamala and all of
00:06:29.120 the crazed partisans have convinced themselves that Trump is Hitler like they've been saying that.
00:06:33.920 And by the way, to be clear, before Trump, they called George W. Bush Hitler.
00:06:38.940 In fact, you would have signs Bush Hitler.
00:06:40.980 You were in the in the Bush White House.
00:06:42.420 That was their talking point.
00:06:43.960 And by the way, if you go back, Democrats also called Ronald Reagan and Richard Nixon Hitler.
00:06:49.080 I mean, this is that they sort of have one, you know, when they're really worried, they
00:06:53.700 just say you're Hitler.
00:06:55.040 And and by the way, you know, Hitler was one of, if not the most evil human being to have
00:07:01.020 ever lived in all time.
00:07:02.180 He exterminated millions of people.
00:07:04.640 He carried out genocides.
00:07:06.220 He set up concentration camps like that's a pretty high bar for someone to be Hitler.
00:07:11.740 Like like, you know, you can say, OK, Pol Pot.
00:07:14.940 I mean, that's someone that you could put in the same category as Hitler, Stalin, like
00:07:19.980 people who have committed mass murder in the millions.
00:07:23.640 It's a fairly small category of people who you can, with any shred of credibility, put
00:07:30.580 in the same category as Hitler.
00:07:33.000 But for today's Democrats and sadly, even for some of yesterday's Democrats, that category
00:07:38.660 also includes every Republican presidential candidate who's ever run is comparable to murdering
00:07:43.940 millions.
00:07:44.220 And I got to say this whole he's going to be a fascist, he's going to be a dictator.
00:07:49.460 They run into two problems.
00:07:52.520 Number one, Trump was president.
00:07:55.460 So maybe they could say in 2016 he's going to do this because he hadn't been president.
00:07:59.700 People didn't know for sure what he'd do.
00:08:02.340 But he was president all of 2017, 2018, 2019, 2020.
00:08:07.480 He was not a dictator.
00:08:09.080 He implemented policy through following the Constitution, through passing legislation,
00:08:15.320 through the House, the Senate, signing it into law.
00:08:18.200 He got us out of wars.
00:08:21.080 He the policy that he implemented, tax policy, regulatory policy produced incredible prosperity.
00:08:28.120 We had peace and prosperity across the globe.
00:08:30.320 So this like, oh, my goodness, he'll suddenly become a dictator.
00:08:33.680 They run into a problem of reality.
00:08:35.900 The second problem they run into.
00:08:38.580 Is by any measure, by any fair and objective measure, Joe Biden and Kamala Harris have been
00:08:46.680 much more dictatorial, to use their term, much more fascist than Trump was.
00:08:53.140 We now have two presidencies to compare side by side.
00:08:56.080 Let me ask you, how many times did Donald Trump prosecute his opponent and leading contender for president?
00:09:08.460 Zero.
00:09:09.460 That would be zero.
00:09:10.660 The Democrats have done it four times, shattering all precedent in American history.
00:09:16.060 You know, you look at weaponization, and we talk about weaponization a lot, using the Department of Justice to go after your enemies,
00:09:23.840 to persecute your enemies.
00:09:25.040 That's something Joe Biden, Kamala Harris, they do over and over and over again.
00:09:29.440 Donald Trump didn't do that.
00:09:31.280 You didn't see.
00:09:32.900 So we've seen SWAT teams bursting into the homes of pro-life activists at dawn with machine guns drawn.
00:09:42.100 When Trump was president, did you see any SWAT teams bursting into pro-choice activists and arresting them at dawn?
00:09:49.340 No, never.
00:09:49.880 It was, it is entirely one-sided.
00:09:53.820 And by the way, their big answer to everything is January 6th, January 6th.
00:09:57.660 Yes, there were acts of violence on January 6th.
00:09:59.940 There was also a lot of peaceful protest on January 6th.
00:10:02.980 There were both.
00:10:04.020 My view is very simple.
00:10:05.180 If you commit an act of violence, you should be prosecuted.
00:10:07.640 That includes people who I might agree with.
00:10:11.160 Whether I agree with you or not, if you violently assault someone, if you assault a police officer, you should be prosecuted.
00:10:17.540 That's true for right-wing, left-wing, or anything else.
00:10:19.900 Now, by the way, if you engage in peaceful protest, you should not.
00:10:24.080 And what Joe Biden and Kamala Harris have done is they've used the violent actions of a limited number of people as an excuse to persecute hundreds or even thousands who engaged in peaceful protest on January 6th.
00:10:37.280 Standing in the mall, waving a flag, singing God bless America, is not violent conduct.
00:10:42.040 And yet, they have used that to target and persecute them.
00:10:45.680 And by the way, again, they look away from violence when they agree with the perpetrators.
00:10:55.860 So, Black Lives Matter and Antifa riots, they're not just fine.
00:10:59.740 I wasn't going to say they're fine.
00:11:01.220 Tim Walz won't send in the National Guard.
00:11:03.000 Martin Kamala Harris raises bail money to bail out the violent rioters.
00:11:08.820 And so, this argument, I think the screaming Trump is Hitler is really a sign of fear and desperation.
00:11:17.380 They just don't have anything else.
00:11:19.300 It worries me, too, because it's like you guys know in the same party, you heard it last week when Barack Obama was like,
00:11:26.020 well, civility is gone and we need civility back and it's somehow the Republicans' fault.
00:11:30.180 And then, immediately, they're like, oh, and side note, this guy should be in jail.
00:11:34.060 He can't be trusted and he could be Hitler.
00:11:36.920 And when we know that their rhetoric has clearly had an impact on people trying to take him out,
00:11:42.560 I am shocked that the media has not called her out for this moment because they didn't.
00:11:47.300 And, in fact, she walked straight over from there, basically, to this CNN town hall.
00:11:52.100 And it was supposed to be a closing argument for people watching CNN and for Undecides.
00:11:58.160 They weren't trying to convince conservatives to vote for her, obviously.
00:12:01.540 It's going to be an easier interview.
00:12:03.220 It's at CNN, Anderson Cooper.
00:12:05.340 This is a friendly audience for her.
00:12:08.740 This should be like shooting fish in a barrel.
00:12:11.220 And it didn't go well, which it was a word salad.
00:12:14.080 I was watching it going, can they please extend the interview and make this a two-hour town hall?
00:12:18.420 Because it's only helping Trump from what I was watching.
00:12:21.440 Well, look, to be fair, you're a right-wing partisan.
00:12:24.940 So, surely no one who agrees with Kamala could have thought that.
00:12:28.960 Oh, wait, wait.
00:12:30.020 Anyone watching that thought that.
00:12:32.540 If you're not inclined to trust Ben Ferguson, and by the way, if you're a regular listener to the podcast,
00:12:38.000 I'd be surprised if you're not inclined to trust Ben Ferguson.
00:12:40.680 But, for sake of argument, let's say you're not.
00:12:44.260 How about David Axelrod?
00:12:45.860 What did David Axelrod think of Kamala's performance?
00:12:49.040 Take a listen to this.
00:12:50.800 The thing that would concern me is when she doesn't want to answer a question,
00:12:54.880 her habit is to kind of go to word salad city.
00:12:59.140 And she did that on a couple of answers.
00:13:00.880 One was on Israel.
00:13:02.020 Anderson asked a direct question, would you be stronger on Israel than Trump?
00:13:06.140 And there was a seven-minute answer, but none of it related to the question he was asking.
00:13:12.120 And so, you know, on certain questions like that, on immigration, I thought she missed an opportunity because she would acknowledge no concerns about any of the administration's policies.
00:13:24.220 And that's a mistake.
00:13:27.000 Sometimes you have to concede things.
00:13:29.820 And she didn't concede much.
00:13:31.200 But I'll tell you something.
00:13:33.060 John King mentioned Bill Clinton.
00:13:35.020 No one's going to be Bill Clinton.
00:13:36.240 But you do want to relate to the people in front of you.
00:13:39.400 She didn't do a lot of that.
00:13:40.520 She didn't ask them questions.
00:13:41.960 She didn't address them particularly.
00:13:45.320 So she was giving set pieces too much.
00:13:48.940 I mean, he said it.
00:13:49.840 A word salad.
00:13:51.100 I mean, she's a master.
00:13:52.260 She's gone pro at saying nothing in response to real questions.
00:13:56.060 Yeah.
00:13:56.320 Well, look, and Axelrod is actually accurate as to why she's doing it, because she has memorized set pieces that she says.
00:14:03.020 And whatever question you ask, she just says the words that she's memorized.
00:14:07.560 And there was another component that he said that is right, which is acknowledging mistakes.
00:14:11.840 Listen, credibility matters.
00:14:13.140 You know, I think back to when I was arguing cases in court, when I was arguing cases before the Supreme Court, that I would always try as an advocate to acknowledge the weakest points of my argument, whether the weakest facts in the case or the weakest case law.
00:14:30.800 If there was a fact that was a problem in my case, I wouldn't try to run away from it.
00:14:35.780 I'd say, yeah, this is a problem.
00:14:37.820 But here's why I think my client prevails anyway.
00:14:41.140 So you acknowledge it.
00:14:42.820 You even – the phrase is put a lantern on it.
00:14:45.620 You admit, okay, this is a problem.
00:14:48.000 But then you give the argument why you think you should win anyway.
00:14:51.340 And look, I want to start with what may win the Guinness Book of World Records for the worst town hall answer ever, which is Anderson Cooper asks her, what are biggest weaknesses?
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00:15:18.240 But her answer – I mean, it's just spectacularly bad.
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00:17:03.440 All right, here is Harris.
00:17:04.740 Again, not a tough question from Anderson Cooper.
00:17:09.360 What are your weaknesses?
00:17:10.580 Take a listen.
00:17:11.220 What weaknesses do you bring to the table, and how do you plan to overcome them while you're in office?
00:17:17.660 That's a great question, Jo.
00:17:19.620 Well, I am certainly not perfect, so let's start there.
00:17:24.300 And I think that perhaps a weakness, some would say, but I actually think it's a strength,
00:17:32.320 is I really do value having a team of very smart people around me who bring to my decision-making process different perspectives.
00:17:44.420 My team will tell you, I am constantly saying, let's kick the tire on that.
00:17:50.280 Let's kick the tires on it.
00:17:51.680 Is there something you can point to in your life, political life or in your life in the last four years,
00:17:56.420 that you think is a mistake that you have learned from?
00:17:59.160 I mean, I've made many mistakes.
00:18:03.860 They range from, you know, if you've ever parented a child, you know you make lots of mistakes.
00:18:10.200 In my role as vice president, I mean, I've probably worked very hard at making sure that I am well-versed on issues,
00:18:23.100 and I think that is very important.
00:18:26.120 It's a mistake not to be well-versed on an issue and feel compelled to answer a question.
00:18:29.820 So let me get this straight.
00:18:32.040 Her greatest weakness is she surrounds herself with an amazing team who love America,
00:18:37.260 who work incredibly hard, who just get to the bottom of every issue carefully with nuance.
00:18:41.700 And by the way, they're a diverse team, so they have different views, so they consider the pros and cons.
00:18:45.440 That's her weakness, mind you, but it's not nearly as good as her greatest mistake.
00:18:49.960 Her greatest mistake is, you know, gosh darn it, I just, I work too hard to get it right.
00:18:56.340 I prepare too much, I just make everything so good that my, that's the mistake I've learned is,
00:19:03.540 well, it'd be a mistake not to do what I do, which is do everything perfectly.
00:19:09.280 Like, holy crap.
00:19:11.380 I mean, seriously, if you were interviewing an intern and they gave you that answer,
00:19:16.380 would you even continue the interview or just be like, all right, look, good luck to you.
00:19:20.820 You'll find a job somewhere that's not going to be here.
00:19:23.320 No, that's exactly if you were saying what you would do.
00:19:25.680 It's also funny, and I don't know if you saw this going viral, Senator, but it was, it was creepily similar.
00:19:32.400 The beginning of her response to the, a scene out of the TV show, The Office, where in a job interview,
00:19:40.160 they asked the main character, Steve Carell, the same exact question, and he gives her answer,
00:19:46.940 or she gives his answer from The Office almost verbatim, and it's gone viral.
00:19:52.520 It's like, what did she prep for?
00:19:54.280 Did she learn everything from watching The Office?
00:19:56.880 Because there's almost a side-by-side ridiculous answer.
00:20:00.000 And the funny part is, The Office, the whole point of it was the absurd and insane and hilarious answers, right?
00:20:07.940 Like, it's not written to be real.
00:20:09.840 It's written to be absurd.
00:20:10.800 And yet, her answer is almost identical to the actual words in the scene in The Office.
00:20:16.600 You can't make that up.
00:20:18.200 Yeah, and look, it goes back to David Axelrod's point.
00:20:21.460 You get credibility by acknowledging mistakes.
00:20:23.960 Now, she's unable to acknowledge any weaknesses whatsoever.
00:20:26.840 She's unable to acknowledge any mistakes whatsoever.
00:20:29.360 But that's not just in the generic.
00:20:31.300 Let's take the specifics.
00:20:32.300 The easiest thing to say would be on the southern border, listen, what's happened has been a mess, but we're going to fix it.
00:20:40.660 But when she's asked about the policies that she and Joe Biden put in place that caused this invasion on the southern border, she acknowledges nothing.
00:20:51.640 Listen to her answer on this one.
00:20:53.440 Do you wish you'd done those executive orders in 2022, 2023?
00:20:56.500 I think we did the right thing, but the best thing that can happen for the American people is that we have bipartisan work happening,
00:21:05.160 and I pledge to you that I will work across the aisle to fix this longstanding problem.
00:21:11.800 I think the American people are demanding it on both sides of the aisle, and it's time we actually put the partisan approach to this aside.
00:21:20.280 We know what can work.
00:21:21.860 Let's talk about it.
00:21:22.880 We know it can work.
00:21:23.980 One hell of a way to end a question like that, saying that you're the one that created the problem,
00:21:27.940 but somehow it's got to be bipartisan, and we know it can work when you're the one that allowed all these people to come in this country with a wide-open border, as the borders are.
00:21:36.180 Well, and it's amazing to say I think we did the right thing.
00:21:38.460 I was absolutely right.
00:21:39.960 When Joe Biden and I came into office, we inherited the lowest rate of illegal immigration in 45 years.
00:21:45.920 We undid that on day one, and we caused the worst rate of illegal immigration in history.
00:21:50.620 I think we did the right thing.
00:21:51.780 Like acknowledging nothing, saying nothing.
00:21:57.380 And by the way, she goes on, there is also an element, part of acknowledging mistakes is occasionally having some graciousness to concede something positive about your opponent.
00:22:12.120 When Anderson Cooper asked her about the border wall, listen to what she says about this.
00:22:16.840 Donald Trump, you criticized the wall more than 50 times.
00:22:20.000 You called it stupid, useless, and a medieval vanity project.
00:22:24.280 Is a border wall stupid?
00:22:26.280 Well, let's talk about Donald Trump and that border wall.
00:22:28.700 So, remember, Donald Trump said Mexico would pay for it?
00:22:34.280 Come on.
00:22:34.980 They didn't.
00:22:36.340 How much of that wall did he build?
00:22:38.280 I think the last number I saw was about 2%.
00:22:40.560 And then when it came time for him to do a photo op, you know where he did it?
00:22:43.900 In the part of the wall that President Obama built.
00:22:47.080 But you were agreeing to a bill that would earmark $650 million to continue building that wall.
00:22:51.660 See, I pledge that I am going to bring forward that bipartisan bill to further strengthen and secure our border.
00:23:00.400 Yes, I am.
00:23:01.240 And I am going to work across the aisle to pass a comprehensive bill that deals with a broken immigration system.
00:23:10.660 I think Jackson's question, part of it, was to acknowledge that America has always had migration, but there needs to be a legal process for it.
00:23:22.540 People have to earn it.
00:23:24.380 And that's the point that I think is the most important point that can be made, which is we need a president who is grounded in common sense and practical outcomes.
00:23:34.700 Like, let's just fix this thing.
00:23:36.660 Let's just fix it.
00:23:37.740 Why is there any ideological perspective on it?
00:23:40.920 Let's just fix the problem.
00:23:42.860 To fix the problem, you're doing this compromise bill.
00:23:46.040 It does call for $650 million that was earmarked under Trump to actually still go to build the wall.
00:23:51.340 I'm not afraid of good ideas where they occurred.
00:23:53.400 You don't think it's stupid anymore?
00:23:55.860 I think what he did and how he did it did not make much sense because he actually didn't do much of anything.
00:24:02.520 I just talked about that wall, right?
00:24:04.760 We just talked about it.
00:24:05.560 He didn't actually do much of anything.
00:24:07.740 But you do want to build some wall.
00:24:10.280 I want to strengthen our border.
00:24:12.820 So which one is it?
00:24:13.840 She wants to strengthen our border?
00:24:15.100 She wants to build the wall?
00:24:16.240 But the wall's stupid if she doesn't build it?
00:24:18.760 And it's a wall that she said she would never build and she would tear down.
00:24:22.480 So what she said was incoherent.
00:24:25.060 It was factually wrong.
00:24:26.520 Actually, Donald Trump built a substantial amount of wall.
00:24:29.120 And at every inch of that wall that was built, Kamala Harris was fighting against it.
00:24:34.240 Every single time she had a chance to vote on it, she voted against it.
00:24:37.560 She's opposed a border wall.
00:24:39.320 Every single day she's been in the Senate.
00:24:41.320 I know that because I've been there with her every single day she's been at the Senate.
00:24:44.840 At every stage, her answer was no, no, no on any vote.
00:24:50.180 By the way, I'm the author of Kate's Law.
00:24:52.760 Kate's Law is named for Kate Steinle, a beautiful 28-year-old California woman who was murdered on a California pier, shot through the heart by an illegal immigrant who had been in and out of jail over and over and over again.
00:25:08.400 And had been deported repeatedly over and over and over again, and the revolving door system of illegal immigration just kept letting him back in.
00:25:16.060 Kate's Law says that anyone who is a repeat illegal immigrant who is an aggravated felon would face a mandatory minimum prison sentence.
00:25:23.720 An overwhelming majority of Americans agree with that.
00:25:27.300 A super majority of Americans agree with Kate's Law.
00:25:30.420 And yet, twice I forced a vote on Kate's Law on the floor of the Senate, and Kamala Harris happily voted against it.
00:25:36.920 So her claiming that she wants to secure the border, no, she doesn't, because she's opposed it at every stage.
00:25:43.140 She can't acknowledge, and when she claims, oh, Donald Trump did nothing, well, what about the fact that we produced the lowest rate of illegal immigration in 45 years?
00:25:51.400 Do you acknowledge that at all?
00:25:52.800 No, she does not admit anything.
00:25:55.640 And her claim that, well, he did nothing, what he did was a joke, but I'm going to do something, because now suddenly the thing I fought against at every stage, I'll do, but not really.
00:26:05.780 But by the way, we made no mistakes when it came to the border.
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00:26:40.820 This is, I do believe, going to be the Achilles' heel for her on Election Day, and that is this overall lack of cohesion of ideas.
00:26:50.100 I think the flip-flopping is hurting her, which brings me to what she's doing today in Texas.
00:26:58.340 She's not coming to campaign necessarily in Texas because I don't think she believes she's going to win in Texas.
00:27:04.300 She is coming, however, to attack Texas and Texas laws to say to the rest of the country,
00:27:12.060 better vote for me so that you don't have people and things and ideas that actually are brought to light like they've done in Texas
00:27:20.040 that go against what we believe in, which is, for example, abortion on demand.
00:27:23.780 And this is a very interesting and radical strategy all at the same time.
00:27:27.920 Do you believe it's going to work?
00:27:30.620 Well, I don't.
00:27:32.060 And I think, Kamala, one of the things the left has decided is that they're going to describe Texas as this horrible hellhole
00:27:37.940 and, like, her message is going to be, vote for me to avoid America becoming like Texas.
00:27:44.040 And I've got to say, you do have sort of facts and reality that crashes into that,
00:27:49.700 which is, for more than a decade, Texas has had over 1,000 people a day moving to our state.
00:27:56.500 People are voting with their feet.
00:27:57.780 They want to be here.
00:27:58.740 And where do they come from?
00:28:00.040 They come from bright blue states.
00:28:01.600 They come from her state.
00:28:02.460 They come from California.
00:28:03.600 They come from Illinois.
00:28:05.040 They come from New York.
00:28:05.900 They come from New Jersey.
00:28:06.720 They come from Connecticut.
00:28:07.500 They come from states that have adopted these high tax, high regulation, terrible environment for small businesses,
00:28:17.420 terrible environment for jobs, and then soft on crime.
00:28:21.180 And by the way, all right, let's listen to her answer when she was confronted about her soft on crime policies.
00:28:28.420 Let's listen to what she says on that.
00:28:30.560 On the issue of law and order, as you mentioned, I think there's just a whole lot of misinformation, to be honest with you.
00:28:36.000 I have personally prosecuted very serious crime.
00:28:41.460 It's how I started my career.
00:28:43.440 I spent most of my career as a prosecutor not in Washington, D.C.
00:28:48.280 And as my first priority had and remains as a first priority to me, the safety of the American people.
00:28:55.980 So that has not changed.
00:28:57.560 And sadly, I think that there's a bit of misinformation, if not more than a bit.
00:29:02.380 But I'm glad that you raised the subject so that I can address it.
00:29:06.000 She again, generalities, no actual real answer to the question.
00:29:11.220 Yeah.
00:29:11.460 Does she address true or false?
00:29:13.100 You have repeatedly called for defunding the police.
00:29:15.900 Answer true.
00:29:16.580 True or false?
00:29:17.140 You voted for defunding the police.
00:29:18.560 Answer true.
00:29:19.520 True or false?
00:29:20.020 You've called for abolishing and defunding ICE.
00:29:22.480 Answer true.
00:29:23.560 True or false?
00:29:24.080 You've called for shutting down ICE detention centers and pledged to do so on your first day as president.
00:29:28.980 Answer true.
00:29:29.840 True or false?
00:29:30.460 You've advocated for releasing violent criminals from jail.
00:29:33.780 True.
00:29:34.380 True or false?
00:29:35.140 You've advocated for ending cash bail and letting criminals out without even paying bail.
00:29:39.960 True.
00:29:40.340 True or false?
00:29:41.000 You've advocated for decriminalizing illegal border crossings.
00:29:45.140 True.
00:29:46.240 True or false?
00:29:47.440 You raised bail money to bail out violent rioters in Minneapolis.
00:29:54.380 Answer true.
00:29:55.640 Now, in the face of all those facts, what does she say?
00:29:58.400 Misinformation.
00:29:59.420 By the way, with no counter narrative, she just says, no, no, no, I'm a prosecutor.
00:30:03.920 Look, I was raised in the middle class.
00:30:05.640 Look, I'm a prosecutor.
00:30:06.880 Those are her two crutches that she goes to repeatedly.
00:30:10.460 But then she actually does not address anything that resembles facts.
00:30:14.280 Let me also ask you another question about this town hall, and it dealt with her plan, and it's the socialist plan, her plan on groceries.
00:30:25.760 She's now tripling down.
00:30:27.740 She tried to run away from it.
00:30:29.160 That didn't work.
00:30:29.900 So now she's back at it again saying, if you vote for me, I'm going to give you communist price control.
00:30:35.420 She was actually asked a question from someone in the audience about this.
00:30:39.460 Listen, prices have gone up quite a bit in the last four years, and some people blame former President Trump.
00:30:46.800 Some people blame President Biden.
00:30:48.480 Who would you say is correct, and what would you do to bring prices down for Americans?
00:30:54.300 Thank you, Eric, and you're absolutely right.
00:30:56.200 You know it.
00:30:56.660 I know it.
00:30:57.100 I think most Americans know it.
00:30:58.660 Price of grocery is still too high, and we need to address it in a number of ways.
00:31:03.000 One of my aspects of doing what we need to do to bring down the cost of living for working people and the middle class in America is to address the issue of grocery prices.
00:31:13.040 Part of my background and how I come to it is probably a new approach grounded in a lot of my experiences as a former Attorney General, where I took on price gouging.
00:31:22.980 And part of my plan is to create a new approach that is the first time that we will have a national ban on price gouging.
00:31:30.500 I mean, that seems like the most ridiculous answer, this national ban on price gouging.
00:31:37.680 We already have a lot of laws on price gouging.
00:31:40.260 A lot of states have those laws, and they're the ones that usually are implementing them.
00:31:44.640 So what is she actually offering up here, that everybody that has a big store is evil if I don't like their price today?
00:31:52.740 Well, and listen, in the grocery context, it's particularly absurd.
00:31:56.320 So states that have price gouging laws, and by the way, Texas has a price gouging law, they are typically focused on emergency.
00:32:03.960 So if you have, say, a hurricane, price gouging laws are if, you know, ordinarily you charge a dollar for a bottle of water and a hurricane hits and you decide you're going to charge $50 for a bottle of water.
00:32:17.560 That's when price gouging kicks in, is that when you're taking a disaster and just taking advantage of people in a time of crisis.
00:32:26.640 And states do have laws for that.
00:32:28.640 They don't apply just to day in, day out, the ordinary pricing of goods and services.
00:32:33.920 And particularly in the grocery context, the average profit margin in a grocery store is typically 1% or 2%.
00:32:41.460 So the idea that the feds are going to come like forced grocery stores, it's, you know, big grocery that is the cause of inflation rather than the disastrous policies she has led is asinine.
00:32:58.300 But I will say, look, look, to Anderson Cooper's question, you know, to his credit, he pointed out, wait a second, you're in the White House right now.
00:33:09.860 If this is a good idea, why aren't you doing it?
00:33:12.140 And listen to her response about why she hasn't done what she's proposing, despite the fact that she's been in the White House four years and in power.
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00:35:38.300 Simple question from Anderson Cooper.
00:35:40.500 Asked to Kamala Harris, and her response is laughable.
00:35:45.120 Some voters, though, might ask, you've been in the White House for four years.
00:35:48.540 You were vice president, not the president.
00:35:50.040 But why wasn't any of that done for the last four years?
00:35:54.220 Well, there was a lot that was done, but there's more to do, Anderson.
00:35:56.880 And I'm pointing out things that need to be done, that haven't been done, but need to be done.
00:36:03.240 You couldn't write a better script for Saturday Night Live.
00:36:06.820 There you go.
00:36:07.680 I'm pointing out the things that need to be done, that haven't been done, that need to be done.
00:36:11.060 And by the way, I'm the one that didn't do them, but I'm the one you can count to do them.
00:36:14.440 But actually, compare that and combine that with, let's remember her biggest mistake.
00:36:20.780 But when she's asked, look, people want to change the page.
00:36:23.160 They want to turn the page.
00:36:24.040 They recognize that the Biden-Harris record is a disaster.
00:36:27.740 So when she's asked how she's different from Joe Biden, take a listen to her answer.
00:36:32.780 Considering you have been in the position of vice president for the past four years under the Biden administration,
00:36:38.380 how can we expect you to deviate from the direction of that administration compared to your own?
00:36:43.640 How can we differentiate your policy and your beliefs from that of Biden's?
00:36:48.220 That's a great question, and thank you.
00:36:49.680 Well, first of all, my administration will not be a continuation of the Biden administration.
00:36:56.200 I bring to this role my own ideas and my own experience.
00:37:02.160 I represent a new generation of leadership on a number of issues and believe that we have to actually take new approaches.
00:37:09.740 For example, what we talked about in terms of housing, my experience that leads to that priority includes what I did to take on the big banks around the foreclosure crisis
00:37:21.900 when I brought billions of dollars to homeowners that were the subject of predatory lending.
00:37:26.860 I know what homeownership means to the American people, not to mention what it meant to my mother, who worked very hard and saved up so that by the time I was a teenager, she was able to buy our first home.
00:37:38.620 I bring to it my experience actually taking care of my mother when she was sick, and it was as it turned out dying from cancer.
00:37:45.560 And so I know what it means and have the experience of taking care of an elderly relative, and I have raised children.
00:37:55.440 And so I bring to my priorities and will, as president, a new approach and a new idea, frankly, about what we need to do to deal with the sandwich generation.
00:38:05.380 There it is. It's it's I'm not him. His policies are terrible. I'm different.
00:38:12.100 But a month ago, I told you we were amazing together and his policies were amazing.
00:38:17.440 And the difference is I'm a new generation. I actually care about people, unlike that old geezer.
00:38:22.260 By the way, I know what it's like to care for old geezers.
00:38:24.280 Look at the one I care for in the White House right now that I lied to you about and said was brilliant and engaged when he actually isn't.
00:38:29.560 I mean, I mean, it truly is it. It is a miracle of circularity.
00:38:37.200 But but we actually should close on what we opened on.
00:38:41.340 We talked about how she held a press conference to say that Trump is a fascist and Trump is Hitler.
00:38:46.640 She's not running away from that, that that that that's her big October surprise.
00:38:50.920 So so so give a listen when when when she's asked asked whether she thinks Trump is a fascist.
00:38:56.620 Do you think Donald Trump is a fascist? Yes, I do.
00:38:59.560 Yes, I do. And I and I also believe that the people who know him best on this subject should be trusted.
00:39:08.520 Senator, I go back to the dog whistle.
00:39:12.340 This is so concerning to me because all I hear is, hey, if there's someone out there that wants to finish the job,
00:39:18.740 these other two attempted assassins were trying to finish.
00:39:21.960 The president's already been shot once.
00:39:24.260 We've dehumanized him to the point where we're right back to calling him a fascist.
00:39:29.040 And earlier today in front of the official American flag at the home of the vice president.
00:39:35.160 I'm telling you, he's Hitler.
00:39:37.200 I cannot believe the level of hatred and irresponsibility from Kamala Harris in this moment.
00:39:44.140 At the same time that they're sending out Barack Obama to say we need more civility and decency.
00:39:49.400 And this this bitterness is too much.
00:39:51.000 And by the way, my opponent is Hitler.
00:39:52.300 That they managed to say those without taking a breath between those two statements.
00:39:57.860 This is the campaign.
00:39:59.280 This is the closing arguments.
00:40:00.800 I do feel like this is desperation, as you mentioned earlier, Senator.
00:40:04.300 And they feel like this election may be slipping away from them.
00:40:07.500 And this is their way to say, hey, orange man's fascist or in man Hitler.
00:40:11.420 Let's see if that's our closing argument.
00:40:13.000 If it works for the American people.
00:40:14.180 And oh, by the way, we want to kill babies on demand.
00:40:16.540 Let's have a big rally in Texas on that.
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