Verdict with Ted Cruz - October 18, 2024


Kamala TRAIN WRECK Fox Interview, plus Hamas Leader Dead


Episode Stats

Length

54 minutes

Words per Minute

170.11797

Word Count

9,253

Sentence Count

696

Misogynist Sentences

25

Hate Speech Sentences

21


Summary

Sen. Ted Cruz and Ben Ferguson break down Sen. Kamala Harris' disastrous interview with Bret Baier. They talk about why she should do more of them, and why Joe Biden should do them more often. Plus, a new coffee company that's 100% American and 0% woke.


Transcript

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00:00:05.480 Welcome.
00:00:06.220 It is The Verdict with Senator Ted Cruz, Ben Ferguson with you.
00:00:09.880 And Senator, I got to say, it was a train wreck.
00:00:13.340 That's the only way you can describe Kamala Harris's interview
00:00:17.020 where she finally had to answer questions from an actual journalist in Bret Baier.
00:00:21.740 It did not go well.
00:00:24.540 Well, I think train wreck is actually an understatement.
00:00:27.180 It was a train wreck meets an implosion meets a collapse meets a total destruction
00:00:33.420 and falling into a ball of quivering goo.
00:00:37.560 And to be honest, I'm spinning right now in Kamala's favor.
00:00:40.760 So it was a bad interview.
00:00:42.640 We're going to break it down.
00:00:44.980 I'm not sure it was possible to give worse answers than she gave.
00:00:48.860 But the nice thing is, as we go through it, each answer she gives,
00:00:52.380 you're going to think, wow, that's the worst answer possible until we play the next one.
00:00:57.180 There's also big news yesterday, which is the head of Hamas.
00:01:02.120 Sinwar is dead.
00:01:04.040 Israel has taken him out.
00:01:06.000 It turns out when you lead a bunch of psychopathic terrorists to attack Israel,
00:01:10.680 that shortens your life expectancy rather dramatically.
00:01:14.800 This is a great day for Israel, a great day for America,
00:01:18.480 a great day for justice and truth.
00:01:21.200 We're going to break that down as well.
00:01:22.360 Yeah, it was incredible news coming out of there.
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00:03:12.620 So, you knew the interview was bad, Senator,
00:03:16.680 when Kamala Harris' team was so visibly rattled
00:03:21.360 by the direction of her interview,
00:03:23.760 so much so that they literally were jumping up and down
00:03:27.500 and giving the rap signal with their hands in the air.
00:03:31.220 Apparently, four different staffers waving their hands like,
00:03:34.860 this has got to stop.
00:03:36.600 We've got to end this thing now.
00:03:39.440 And Brett Baer even talked about it.
00:03:42.120 Yeah, give a listen to what Brett Baer said.
00:03:45.020 You noticed if you watched the interview,
00:03:46.860 he ended it really abruptly.
00:03:48.560 Well, he explained why.
00:03:50.040 Give a listen.
00:03:51.320 Dana, you've been on the other side.
00:03:53.120 You've been on the rapper as a press secretary
00:03:56.640 interviewing a president.
00:03:58.860 And, you know, I'm talking like four people
00:04:00.760 waving their hands like it's got to stop.
00:04:03.580 So, Martha, final, yeah, I had to dismount there at the end.
00:04:09.260 There's so many things, and she maybe should do more of these.
00:04:13.020 Well, I think so.
00:04:14.800 I love that.
00:04:15.960 Maybe she should do more of these.
00:04:17.340 You and I have actually talked about this
00:04:19.280 in different races that we've seen around the country
00:04:22.580 where a lot of Democrats have taken on this strategy of,
00:04:27.260 hey, we might be able to win elections
00:04:29.180 without ever having to do tough interviews ever again.
00:04:31.680 They obviously got this idea from Joe Biden hiding in his basement last time.
00:04:37.180 Kamala Harris's campaign adopted this.
00:04:39.300 And the problem is many other people running for office around the country
00:04:43.160 on the Democratic side have taken to this idea.
00:04:46.380 Buy the election, put out ads, only do friendly interviews,
00:04:50.160 which are not real interviews.
00:04:51.820 And then the problem is you're not prepared
00:04:54.840 for when you just sit down with an actual journalist.
00:04:56.960 Because let's be clear, Brett Baer was not asking I got you questions.
00:05:00.140 He just did what a journalist should have done every day when they interview her.
00:05:04.300 Instead of doing Call Her Daddy podcasts,
00:05:06.860 sit down with real journalists, and she didn't know what to do.
00:05:09.840 Well, several observations.
00:05:11.880 Number one, the fact that she did this interview
00:05:15.140 is indicative of a panic on behalf of the Harris campaign.
00:05:20.340 They've tried for two months the Biden basement strategy, hiding.
00:05:24.660 And what they've seen is they've seen her poll numbers plummeting.
00:05:27.600 They've seen Trump's numbers rising in every one of the swing states.
00:05:31.260 They're looking at polling right now that shows if the election was today,
00:05:34.660 she loses and Trump's the next president.
00:05:36.860 So they're in a panic.
00:05:38.120 They're like, uh-oh, the basement isn't working.
00:05:40.220 So they decide, all right, let's do Fox.
00:05:42.520 And I'm sure they sat around and said, all right,
00:05:44.800 this will show how powerfully brave we are.
00:05:48.000 This will be, see, she's fearless.
00:05:50.360 And by the way, every Democrat spinmeister and every media person,
00:05:54.320 after the media, they all use the same adjectives.
00:05:57.360 They said it showed she was tough, tough, tough.
00:06:00.220 That was their word.
00:06:01.840 You know, it's kind of amazing.
00:06:03.320 If you're a Republican, you do hostile interviews every day.
00:06:07.520 You sit down with reporters who are throwing fastballs at you,
00:06:12.220 who are throwing gotcha questions,
00:06:13.940 who are trying to attack you or trying to make you look dumb.
00:06:16.660 That's just part of being a Republican if you do any media interviews.
00:06:19.560 The Democrats are used to being in this warm, loving cocoon
00:06:24.120 of these corporate media journalists who gaze at them adoringly.
00:06:29.600 They ask, what's your favorite flavor of ice cream?
00:06:32.500 Or I guess the Call Your Daddy podcast.
00:06:34.980 I don't know.
00:06:35.500 I don't listen to that podcast, so I don't know what they talk about.
00:06:38.400 But I have a feeling it's not hard-hitting policy questions.
00:06:43.500 And Democrats are used to just never being challenged on anything.
00:06:50.200 And so for Kamala, I think the idea that she sat down with a reporter
00:06:55.440 who would ask her a real question was a little shocking.
00:06:59.660 But then I think once they decided to do it,
00:07:02.600 I think what happened is she and her team got cold feet.
00:07:05.820 And so you've got to understand, not only did they end the interview early,
00:07:10.140 and they ended it in a panic, like four people jumping up and down saying,
00:07:13.560 end, end, end.
00:07:14.780 That is a sign, uh-oh, the train has gone off the rails.
00:07:17.720 We've got to stop this.
00:07:19.100 But they also shortened it on the front end.
00:07:22.240 So take a listen to Brett Baer talking about how they chopped the interview on both ends
00:07:26.360 because what I think happened is they got cold feet
00:07:29.120 and decided that they were really scared of doing it.
00:07:31.360 Give a listen to Brett Baer on this.
00:07:33.580 Dana, I'll give you a little behind-the-scenes here.
00:07:35.640 I know you love this.
00:07:36.580 And it fits in with Dana Reid Sports.
00:07:39.600 You know, when the kicker in football, they call a timeout right before he's going to kick the field goal.
00:07:46.400 They're icing the kicker.
00:07:47.980 So we were supposed to start at 5 p.m.
00:07:51.140 This was the time they gave us.
00:07:53.660 Originally, we were going to do 25 or 30 minutes.
00:07:56.400 They came in and said, well, maybe 20.
00:07:58.900 So it was already getting whittled down.
00:08:00.600 And then the vice president showed up about 5.15.
00:08:05.440 We were pushing the envelope to be able to turn it around for the top of the 6 o'clock.
00:08:10.280 So that's how it started.
00:08:12.760 And I could tell when we started talking that she was going to be tough to redirect without me trying to interrupt.
00:08:21.740 I did this with President Obama.
00:08:23.200 At one point, I just said, Mr. President, I know you like the filibuster.
00:08:26.600 I just didn't even have the chance to sometimes redirect in those ways.
00:08:32.520 I had a lot of other questions.
00:08:35.320 So what a missed opportunity for them, right?
00:08:37.600 So I don't know what she had before.
00:08:39.300 I know she had that one event right before.
00:08:41.120 But what's more important than this interview today on your campaign schedule?
00:08:44.740 If your goal as a candidate at this point is to win the day, win the news cycle of the day,
00:08:50.700 then your interview with Fox is arguably your most important issue.
00:08:54.600 And I think you could tell at the end that you were having to rush through it so that you could get to the top of the show.
00:09:00.340 And you were trying to be respectful of their time.
00:09:03.020 But it would have been really interesting for her to be able to say to her team,
00:09:07.260 No, no, let's keep going, Brett.
00:09:09.020 What else do you have?
00:09:10.780 Right?
00:09:11.160 And let it keep going.
00:09:12.440 And so people understand how this was supposed to go, just for a little more context.
00:09:19.220 They wanted to do the interview, basically tape it and go straight live, unedited for his show, which is at the top of the hour.
00:09:26.680 So when she purposely showed up 15 minutes late, you're running 15 minutes behind schedule with a show that you're supposed to be airing this interview in 45 minutes.
00:09:37.200 And his point he's making here is like they clearly did that on purpose to basically put us in a bind to limit the amount of time we could talk to her.
00:09:46.240 And then when you wrap early, that really screws up the entire plan for a live TV show at the top of the hour.
00:09:52.740 And that was done deliberately.
00:09:55.080 Well, of course it was.
00:09:56.420 It was not accidental.
00:09:58.040 And the reason is the Kamala Harris campaign, their objective in this interview was not to go out and persuade Fox viewers.
00:10:07.460 I don't think they believed anything she said was going to suddenly make someone say,
00:10:12.160 Gosh, an open border left wing radical seems like a great choice to be president.
00:10:16.240 That was not their objective.
00:10:17.760 They decided they wanted the headline, Kamala Harris does an interview with Fox.
00:10:23.160 So the simple fact of it existing is all they wanted.
00:10:26.340 And then as they're sitting there preparing, they're like, uh-oh, our candidate doesn't actually handle hard questions very well.
00:10:33.080 We want to minimize the time.
00:10:34.800 So, look, you're running a presidential campaign.
00:10:37.560 I've done that.
00:10:38.540 You've been on a presidential campaign on the comm staff.
00:10:41.100 If you've got a major national interview at 5 o'clock, you don't show up at 5.15.
00:10:45.160 Or if you do, it is a very deliberate decision.
00:10:47.980 And it's a deliberate decision because they were trying to minimize the exposure.
00:10:53.180 They chop off time at the beginning and time at the end so that there would be less opportunities for Kamala to screw up.
00:11:00.220 So, ironically, even doing that, she managed to screw up a whole lot in the limited time she had.
00:11:07.460 So, for example, Brett Baer hit her.
00:11:11.060 By the way, let me say this because this made me laugh.
00:11:13.240 Did you see, and I know you've been traveling today, but did you see the Babylon Bee headline of this interview that came out?
00:11:19.680 No.
00:11:19.940 It's hilarious.
00:11:21.260 It says, quote, Harris complains that she was not informed the interview would include questions.
00:11:28.980 It's obviously satire, but it's so accurate to the situation, is it not?
00:11:34.320 Yeah.
00:11:34.800 Yeah.
00:11:36.420 It is.
00:11:37.380 And let's start with one of the first examples, which is Brett Baer hits her for flip-flopping on decriminalizing illegal immigration.
00:11:45.620 So, give a listen to this back and forth.
00:11:47.040 So, decriminalizing border crossings, like you said, in 2019.
00:11:51.880 I do not believe in decriminalizing border crossings, and I've not done that as vice president.
00:11:57.700 I will not do that as president.
00:11:59.320 So, these are evolutions that you've had.
00:12:01.220 Well, let's be very clear.
00:12:02.960 I'm the only person who's running for president who has prosecuted transnational criminal organizations from the Sinaloa cartel to the Guadalajara cartel to people who have trafficked in guns, drugs, and human beings.
00:12:16.740 I have spent a significant part of my career going after people who present a threat to the safety of the American people and cross our border with the intent of doing us harm and cross our border illegally.
00:12:32.260 And I will do that work as vice president.
00:12:34.520 I take that work quite seriously.
00:12:36.840 This is a time when voters...
00:12:38.520 I mean, you listen to it there.
00:12:40.640 He's like, basically saying, like, you want to really play this?
00:12:44.140 You want to just say you've had an evolution?
00:12:46.540 That's a kind way of putting it.
00:12:47.800 In other words, you're either lying to the American people or you're not.
00:12:50.980 Well, look, I'll say a couple of things.
00:12:54.400 One, you saw there, and you're going to hear this on a number of examples, how she filibusters.
00:13:00.420 And on each question, she tries to take as much time as possible with her answer.
00:13:04.800 And her answer is just her memorized talking points.
00:13:07.740 And so she's doing that there.
00:13:09.500 And I will say, listen, Brett Baer was a very gentle questioner.
00:13:12.980 To be honest, I've had tougher interviews with Brett Baer than he was with Kamala.
00:13:19.520 He gave her a lot of room.
00:13:21.720 He let her just talk and talk and talk.
00:13:24.220 And so there, he pointed out, she said that she wanted to decriminalize illegal immigration.
00:13:30.660 And she jumps in and says, no, no, I don't.
00:13:33.320 And she doesn't address the fact that it's a total reversal of what she said when she was campaigning for president.
00:13:38.720 But she also, this talking point, she says it a lot.
00:13:41.040 I'm the only one who has prosecuted drug cartels.
00:13:44.680 So that's actually an objectively false statement.
00:13:48.100 So when she was attorney general, or for that matter, when she was district attorney, to the best of my knowledge,
00:13:53.980 she never went into a courtroom as a prosecutor and tried any case against any drug cartel.
00:13:58.920 She was not actually the line lawyer.
00:14:00.960 She was not the lead lawyer that I know of in any single case against a drug cartel.
00:14:07.080 So that's fine.
00:14:08.080 She was the executive in charge of an organization where she had lawyers that were reporting up through the chain of command that I'm sure were prosecuting people in drug cartels.
00:14:17.980 Well, you know what?
00:14:18.480 So did Donald Trump.
00:14:19.840 If you're saying lawyers who worked for me and reported me were prosecuting drug cartels,
00:14:25.860 well, what do you think the Department of Justice did during the four years that Donald J.
00:14:29.740 Trump was president and the DOJ was going after drug traffickers and human traffickers?
00:14:34.720 And so she's trying to claim she's tough, but it's something that's true for both her and Donald Trump.
00:14:42.500 Now, here's another exchange where Brett Baer points out that she allowed millions of illegal immigrants into the country and she failed to act.
00:14:54.260 And so he's trying to focus on her actual record and give a listen to what she said in response.
00:15:00.400 When you came into office, your administration immediately reversed a number of Trump border policies, most significantly,
00:15:08.400 the policy that required illegal immigrants to be detained through deportation, either in the U.S. or in Mexico.
00:15:15.680 And you switched that policy.
00:15:17.360 They were released from custody awaiting trial.
00:15:19.880 So instead, included in those were a large number of single men, adult men, who went on to commit heinous crimes.
00:15:28.480 So, looking back, do you regret the decision to terminate Remain in Mexico at the beginning of your administration?
00:15:35.980 At the beginning of our administration, within practically hours of taking the oath,
00:15:42.440 the first bill that we offered Congress, before we worked on infrastructure, before the Inflation Reduction Act,
00:15:52.660 before the Chips and Science Act, before the bipartisan Safety Communities Act,
00:15:59.360 the first bill, practically within hours of taking the oath, was a bill to fix our immigration system.
00:16:06.460 Yes, ma'am.
00:16:06.900 It was called the U.S. Citizenship Act of 2021.
00:16:10.180 Exactly.
00:16:10.540 It was essentially a pathway to citizenship for the...
00:16:14.420 May I please finish?
00:16:14.700 Yes, ma'am.
00:16:15.080 May I finish responding, please?
00:16:16.800 But you have to let me finish, please.
00:16:18.680 You had the White House and the House and the Senate, and they didn't bring up that bill.
00:16:22.560 I'm in the middle of responding to the point you're raising.
00:16:24.600 Okay.
00:16:24.900 And I'd like to finish.
00:16:26.100 Yes, ma'am.
00:16:27.280 We recognized from day one that to the point of this being your first question,
00:16:33.360 it is a priority for us as a nation and for the American people.
00:16:37.940 And our focus has been on fixing a problem.
00:16:41.800 I mean, number one, I got to say, Brett Baer had some serious restraint there because this
00:16:47.740 was, like he said earlier, total filibuster, total BS.
00:16:52.220 Yep.
00:16:52.820 So she refused to answer his question.
00:16:55.520 He pointed out that she ended detaining illegal immigrants.
00:16:59.580 She ended keeping violent criminal illegal aliens in detention.
00:17:03.740 And instead, she implemented catch and release.
00:17:06.220 And he asked, do you regret that?
00:17:08.120 And she refused to answer that.
00:17:09.960 Instead, she filibusters.
00:17:11.080 She talks and talks and talks.
00:17:12.960 And she says, well, the first bill we introduced or one of the first bills was immigration.
00:17:16.220 And he quickly points out, yeah, but that was an amnesty bill.
00:17:19.160 That wasn't a border security bill.
00:17:21.040 That was you wanted to make illegal immigrants citizens.
00:17:23.640 That's not actually solving the problem.
00:17:25.600 And she's like, well, you let me let me finish.
00:17:27.500 Let me finish.
00:17:28.020 By the way, she does that in debates.
00:17:29.900 Remember in debates?
00:17:30.580 That was her big line.
00:17:31.920 I'm speaking.
00:17:33.080 Let me finish.
00:17:33.800 She likes to be anyone who tries to press her.
00:17:37.160 She just she gets on her high horse and lectures that.
00:17:40.180 But every word she said was a total non sequitur.
00:17:45.140 And she didn't answer a single word of his questions.
00:17:49.100 Now, let's shift on to when Brett Baer asked her a very simple question.
00:17:55.700 How many illegal immigrants did she release into the country?
00:17:59.360 Now, that's not a complicated question.
00:18:00.800 But you're going to notice she doesn't answer and she filibusters.
00:18:04.660 Give a listen.
00:18:07.060 You know, voters tell pollsters all over the country and here in Pennsylvania that immigration is one of the key issues that they're looking at this election.
00:18:14.980 And specifically the influx of illegal immigrants from more than 150 countries.
00:18:18.920 How many illegal immigrants would you estimate your administration has released into the country over the last three and a half years?
00:18:29.680 Well, I'm glad you raised the issue of immigration because I agree with you.
00:18:32.540 It is a it is a topic of discussion that people want to rightly have.
00:18:38.220 And you know what I'm going to talk about.
00:18:40.360 But do you just a number?
00:18:41.340 Do you think it's one million, three million?
00:18:43.560 Brett, let's just get to the point.
00:18:45.140 OK, the point is that we have a broken immigration system that needs to be repaired.
00:18:51.780 So your Homeland Security secretary said that 85 percent of apprehensions.
00:18:55.400 I'm not finished.
00:18:56.120 We have a we have an immigration system.
00:18:57.920 It's a rough estimate of six million people have been released into the country.
00:19:01.760 And let me just finish.
00:19:02.480 I'll get to the question.
00:19:03.240 I promise you.
00:19:03.780 I was beginning to answer.
00:19:05.040 And when I mean, you can hear it there.
00:19:07.820 She won't answer the question.
00:19:10.720 No.
00:19:11.120 Well, A, she doesn't know B, she doesn't care C, she's certainly not going to say even if she did know and she did care.
00:19:19.840 You have to understand this was not an accident.
00:19:22.540 It was a conscious decision to open up the borders.
00:19:26.140 Remember, Kamala Harris inherited the lowest rate of illegal immigration in 45 years.
00:19:31.660 I worked hand in hand very closely with President Trump to secure the border.
00:19:36.180 And the success we achieved was historic.
00:19:38.660 The numbers plummeted when Joe Biden and Kamala Harris walked into office.
00:19:43.280 That's what they inherited.
00:19:44.620 And they very deliberately, they systematically broke it.
00:19:47.880 And so when he asks her, how many illegal immigrants have you released?
00:19:51.140 She's not going to answer that.
00:19:52.240 She's not going to admit she's released anyone.
00:19:55.020 And there's an even broader pattern.
00:19:57.680 So not only does she filibuster every question, not only does she refuse to answer any question,
00:20:03.540 but she also has a pattern, which is whenever she gets in trouble, her answer to everything is, I hate Donald Trump.
00:20:11.620 So no matter what, any policy failure on her part, her answer is, I hate Donald Trump.
00:20:18.100 And so if you listen to, for example, when Brett Baer asks her about the people who are killed by violent illegal immigrants that she released,
00:20:35.360 listen to her answer on this.
00:20:36.600 Jocelyn Nungary, Rachel Morin, Lakin Riley, they are young women who were brutally assaulted and killed by some of the men who were released at the beginning of the administration,
00:20:49.460 well before a negotiated bipartisan bill.
00:20:53.500 Former President Clinton actually referred to Lakin Riley Sunday campaigning for you in Georgia,
00:20:57.440 saying if those men had been properly vetted, Lakin Riley probably would not have been killed.
00:21:01.960 So if it wouldn't have happened, this is well before any negotiation.
00:21:07.240 This is well before Donald Trump got involved in the politics.
00:21:09.860 This is a specific policy decision by your administration to release these men into the country.
00:21:15.340 So what I'm saying to you, do you owe those families an apology?
00:21:20.240 Let me just say, first of all, those are tragic cases.
00:21:24.140 There's no question about that.
00:21:26.600 There is no question about that.
00:21:28.620 And I can't imagine the pain that the families of those victims have experienced for a loss that should not have occurred.
00:21:39.600 So that is true.
00:21:42.940 It is also true that if a border security had actually been passed nine months ago,
00:21:48.680 it would be nine months that we would have had more border agents at the border,
00:21:54.840 more support for the folks who are working around the clock, trying to hold it all together.
00:22:00.160 Madam Vice President.
00:22:00.800 To ensure that no future harm would occur.
00:22:05.100 And this election in 20 days will determine whether we have a president of the United States who actually cares more about fixing a problem,
00:22:15.680 even if it is not to their political advantage in an election, because there was a solution, Brett.
00:22:21.800 Madam Vice President, it was a policy decision in the early part of your administration.
00:22:26.080 I will let one of the mothers talk about it.
00:22:28.760 Take a listen.
00:22:29.180 Because of the Biden-Harris administration open border policies catch and release,
00:22:35.900 they were enrolled in the Alternatives to Detention program.
00:22:39.480 This meant that they were released into the United States.
00:22:42.480 It was not even a full three weeks later that they would take my daughter, Jocelyn Nungare's life.
00:22:47.500 I believe the Biden-Harris administration open border policies are responsible for the death of my daughter.
00:22:53.940 That's the early days.
00:22:56.220 So do you owe them an apology is what I'm saying.
00:22:59.220 I will tell you that I am so sorry for her loss.
00:23:02.280 I am so sorry for her loss.
00:23:04.840 Sincerely.
00:23:05.360 But let's talk about what is happening right now with an individual who does not want to participate in solutions.
00:23:15.780 Let's talk about that as well.
00:23:18.120 But do you want to answer that?
00:23:18.920 In all fairness, I told you, I feel awful for what she and her family have experienced.
00:23:24.440 It's still shocking to me that she refuses to accept no responsibility or accountability for her open border policy as the borders are.
00:23:36.500 She refuses to say, yeah, we probably did some things wrong.
00:23:41.880 So listen, I will say just listening to that testimony, and I listened to it when it happened.
00:23:47.440 I listened to it when the interview happened with Brett Baer.
00:23:50.740 That's the testimony from Alexis Nungary, who is the mother of Jocelyn Nungary.
00:23:56.300 And I've spent some real time with Alexis.
00:23:59.040 She is a beautiful young woman.
00:24:00.900 She's just 27 years old.
00:24:03.360 And she lost her baby girl, her 12-year-old, raped and murdered by two illegal immigrants.
00:24:11.560 That Joe Biden and Kamala Harris, they had in custody.
00:24:14.420 They had apprehended them.
00:24:16.040 At least one of them is alleged to have been a Venezuelan gang member.
00:24:19.220 And yet they released those two criminal illegal aliens the same day they apprehended them.
00:24:27.580 And just a few weeks later, they went to Houston, Texas, and raped and murdered that beautiful little girl.
00:24:33.760 What Jocelyn's mother went through is the ultimate nightmare.
00:24:37.820 And when Kamala says that she's so sorry for what happened, sincerely, you want to tell when a politician like Kamala Harris says the word sincerely, it means she's lying to you.
00:24:51.820 And I'll tell you why she's lying to you.
00:24:53.880 Because number one, as you rightly noted, Ben, she has zero accountability.
00:24:58.500 She takes no, she doesn't even acknowledge that the rapists and murderers are in custody and she released.
00:25:05.160 She doesn't say that.
00:25:06.080 But number two, even more importantly, if she was actually sincere about these are tragic, tragic cases and we need to prevent them, she would change that policy.
00:25:18.220 Kamala Harris today released additional illegal aliens, criminal illegal aliens, some of whom are at real risk of raping and murdering another little girl.
00:25:30.420 She keeps doing the same thing.
00:25:32.300 And you're not sorry for it if you keep doing it and doing it and doing it.
00:25:37.040 For Kamala Harris, the politics matters more than the body count, than the people who suffer, than the people who pay the price.
00:25:43.960 This was the answer that made me angry.
00:25:46.640 I mean, it just, and part of it is because I know Jocelyn's mom, because I have sat in the living room with Jocelyn's mom and Jocelyn's grandfather and felt the tears and the agony of losing that little girl.
00:25:58.760 And you see, what does Kamala Harris say?
00:26:02.640 Kamala Harris says, I hate Trump.
00:26:04.880 That's her answer.
00:26:06.000 The problem is Trump.
00:26:07.080 Now, number one, it's a non sequitur.
00:26:09.100 She's focusing on the Chuck Schumer border bill, which happened this past year in the fourth year of the Biden-Harris administration.
00:26:18.280 So it had zero impact on Jocelyn Nungary.
00:26:21.520 It had zero impact on Rachel Moran.
00:26:23.460 It had zero impact on Lakin Riley.
00:26:25.940 Their murderers were released by Kamala Harris long before this ridiculous border bill.
00:26:31.240 Now, secondly, and you and I have talked about this at great length, the border bill, the Chuck Schumer border bill, would not have secured the border.
00:26:39.800 You know, Kamala talks about, well, gosh, it would have put more border agents there.
00:26:44.780 Yes, but it wrote into law catch and release.
00:26:47.080 So it would have written into law that the next murderer shall be released.
00:26:51.600 So you have more agents there to process and release illegal immigrants faster.
00:26:57.120 But this bill was designed to codify, to write into law, catch and release, and to normalize 5,000 illegal immigrants a day, 1.8 million a year, every year, forever.
00:27:08.160 And the cynicism of just turning your back on the people who are suffering, that answer of the entire interview, that's the one that made me most angry and upset.
00:27:18.640 Yeah, I couldn't agree with you more.
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00:29:06.780 Senator, you mentioned something a moment ago, and it's a theme that went back to a core point in this interview,
00:29:13.100 where she always went back to somehow, I'm not the vice president, I'm not in charge,
00:29:21.040 and it's all Donald Trump's fault who hasn't been in charge for, what, three and a half years now.
00:29:26.140 And I don't know why she thought that was going to get her out of the jail card on every tough question.
00:29:33.100 Well, this was her standard answer to every difficult question about the failure of her record.
00:29:38.300 So why have you had an open border with 11 and a half million people invading this country?
00:29:42.040 Answer, I hate Donald Trump.
00:29:43.880 Why did, if Iran is America's greatest enemy, which is what she said on 60 Minutes,
00:29:49.080 why did your administration give Iran $100 billion?
00:29:52.220 Answer, I hate Donald Trump.
00:29:53.600 And one of the ones that was most, just I thought, funny, was, okay, you're campaigning on change.
00:30:02.840 How are you different from Joe Biden?
00:30:06.820 And spoiler alert, but her answer is, I hate Donald Trump.
00:30:10.500 Give a listen.
00:30:11.560 The slogan is a new way forward, and it's time to turn the page.
00:30:15.240 You've been vice president for three and a half years.
00:30:17.660 So what are you turning the page from?
00:30:19.980 Well, first of all, turning the page from the last decade in which we have been burdened with the kind of rhetoric coming from Donald Trump that has been designed and implemented to divide our country
00:30:35.140 and have Americans literally point fingers at each other, rhetoric and an approach to leadership that suggests that the strength of a leader is based on who you beat down instead of what we all know.
00:30:46.600 The strength of leadership is based on who you lift up.
00:30:49.660 The strength of an American president, which is one who understands that the vast majority of us have more in common than what separates us.
00:30:59.040 That is turning the page.
00:31:00.380 Madam Vice President, more than 70 percent of people tell pollsters.
00:31:02.080 That is about turning the page on rhetoric that people are frankly exhausted of bread.
00:31:06.880 More than 70 percent of people tell the country is on the wrong track.
00:31:10.540 They say the country is on the wrong track.
00:31:12.680 If it's on the wrong track, that track follows three and a half years of you being vice president and President Biden being president.
00:31:21.220 That is what they're saying.
00:31:22.900 Seventy nine percent of them.
00:31:24.600 Why are they saying that?
00:31:25.780 If you're turning the page, you've been in office for three and a half years.
00:31:30.180 And Donald Trump has been running for office.
00:31:33.620 So you've been the person in the office.
00:31:36.140 You and I both know what I'm talking about.
00:31:38.520 You and I both know what I'm talking about.
00:31:40.400 What are you talking about?
00:31:41.220 What I'm talking about is that over the last decade, people have become.
00:31:47.300 But listen.
00:31:49.940 I love his response there.
00:31:52.080 I actually don't know what you're talking about.
00:31:53.820 She's like, yes, you do.
00:31:55.800 And she's basically saying because Donald Trump has been alive.
00:31:57.580 It's the single best moment of the entire interview.
00:32:00.560 It's the single best moment of the entire interview.
00:32:03.900 And kudos to Brett Baer.
00:32:05.220 Like, I actually don't was spectacular.
00:32:08.140 And you've got to understand, Kamala Harris, like virtually every Democrat in elected office and like all of CNN and all of MSNBC and all of ABC, NBC and CBS, has full on Trump derangement syndrome.
00:32:23.500 So she literally, like, you're turning the page.
00:32:27.560 But wait, you're in power.
00:32:29.040 What are you turning the page from?
00:32:30.340 If we're on the wrong track, doesn't that mean what you're doing is wrong?
00:32:33.440 And like her line, well, and Donald Trump has been running for office.
00:32:37.360 So clearly that's the problem.
00:32:39.640 How dare he run for office?
00:32:41.180 And then she's like, you and I both know what I'm talking about.
00:32:44.960 And it's we hate Trump like we wake up and he is the devil.
00:32:50.660 And I love Brett Baer.
00:32:51.600 It's just like shakes his head.
00:32:52.840 I actually don't.
00:32:54.740 It really is.
00:32:58.280 She's not willing to address anything about her record other than Trump bad.
00:33:05.660 So there's another exchange where Brett Baer is like, OK, fine.
00:33:10.800 You don't like Trump.
00:33:12.520 Well, what about Joe Biden?
00:33:14.020 The guy has dementia.
00:33:15.740 He's clearly not capable of being president or running for president.
00:33:20.860 Why are you covering that up?
00:33:22.400 When did you see that?
00:33:23.560 And this exchange also, she completely dodges accountability.
00:33:27.660 Give a listen.
00:33:29.220 He's not stable.
00:33:30.360 Let me ask you this.
00:33:31.260 You told many interviewers that Joe Biden was on his game, that ran around circles on his staff.
00:33:37.540 When did you first notice that President Biden's mental faculties appeared diminished?
00:33:41.580 Joe Biden, I have watched in from the Oval Office to the Situation Room, and he has the judgment and the experiment and experience to do exactly what he has done in making very important decisions on behalf of the American people.
00:33:59.420 There were no concerns raised.
00:34:00.800 Brett, Joe Biden is not on the ballot.
00:34:02.900 I understand.
00:34:03.340 And Donald Trump is.
00:34:05.340 But you talked about it.
00:34:06.000 And Donald Trump is.
00:34:06.680 After George Clooney said within a few minutes of talking to President Biden at a fundraiser that he thought this was not the same Joe Biden that we saw on the debate stage.
00:34:15.420 Donald Trump is on the ballot.
00:34:17.300 She goes back to Donald Trump there.
00:34:19.300 I actually think this is one of the most damning parts of her legacy as the vice president.
00:34:26.600 She lied to the American people and covered up the cognitive decline.
00:34:30.540 Day after day, week after week, month after month, year after year.
00:34:34.080 Yep.
00:34:35.220 And then she's like, oh, calm down.
00:34:37.760 It's not a big deal.
00:34:38.840 Now I'm the candidate.
00:34:39.940 Leave me alone.
00:34:41.680 Yeah.
00:34:41.960 And her answer is, but but orange man bad.
00:34:45.200 I hate Trump.
00:34:46.100 That's the only thing she can say.
00:34:48.820 Well, yes, I lied to the American people.
00:34:51.420 Well, yes, I actively covered up to the commander in chief has full on dementia.
00:34:56.080 Yes, I covered up the fact that the person in charge with keeping the nation, our nation safe, the person with his finger on the nuclear button still right now today.
00:35:04.140 Like today, if Joe Biden woke up from his four o'clock nap and said, let's exterminate humanity.
00:35:14.560 He is one of the very few people on the planet with the power to do so, assuming his generals would follow his orders.
00:35:22.980 And she was an active and integral participant in covering up the fact that he is not competent and capable of protecting this country.
00:35:31.900 And her only answer is, I hate Trump.
00:35:35.920 It is a theme.
00:35:38.640 I go back to this question.
00:35:40.640 You look at this interview.
00:35:42.080 I think the idea of this interview was a smart one.
00:35:44.800 They obviously feel that something has changed in this election.
00:35:48.720 I think you and I can feel it out there as well on the road.
00:35:51.680 There is there's been a shift in the last, I don't know, 10 to 15 days where it just feels like they're starting to be a surge of support for Donald Trump.
00:36:04.280 And their campaign clearly felt it to the point where they're like, all right, that last week of all those big interviews, and we should have been focusing on the hurricane number two hitting this country and putting her on late night comedy shows and putting on our Call Her Daddy podcast or Charlemagne the God.
00:36:20.960 That didn't work.
00:36:22.040 So now we're going to see if we can, in a weird way, have Fox News bail us out.
00:36:26.600 Not only did it not work, it was a disaster.
00:36:29.160 What do you do now if you're her campaign?
00:36:31.880 I mean, do you go back to the basement strategy?
00:36:36.120 Listen, I think what is happening, and this is something you and I talked about.
00:36:39.760 You and I talked about coming out of the Democrat convention where she had a surge.
00:36:45.320 And by the way, the polling numbers, if the vote had been right after the Democrat convention, she probably would have won.
00:36:50.860 She probably would have been president.
00:36:52.140 Her numbers surge at the time.
00:36:54.540 Simply replacing Joe Biden with Kamala Harris on the ballot was worth five to eight points for every Democrat in the country.
00:37:00.980 Because it unified Democrats, and it was a pure sugar high.
00:37:05.260 But you and I said at the podcast at the time, the election is not today.
00:37:09.760 We've got several months to go.
00:37:11.820 And what I believe is the issue set strongly favors Republicans.
00:37:16.140 Because the issue set, whether it is illegal immigration, on which Kamala Harris' record is a disaster, and on which Donald Trump's record is incredibly successful.
00:37:24.920 Or whether it is the economy and inflation, on which Kamala Harris' record is a disaster, and on which Donald Trump's record is incredibly successful.
00:37:32.240 or whether it is war and peace on which Kamala Harris's track record is a disaster
00:37:36.820 and Donald Trump's record is incredibly successful.
00:37:39.300 Every one of those issues, the advantage is with the Republicans.
00:37:43.060 And so as the campaign has gone on, I think that advantage is asserting itself.
00:37:48.120 And she's left with the only thing.
00:37:50.700 She can't talk about her record because her record is so bad.
00:37:53.880 She can't talk about her policies because her policies have failed.
00:37:56.960 So she just has to vet at Trump.
00:37:58.820 And actually, there was one exchange that I thought illustrated that in a way that was really funny.
00:38:04.360 So it has become a big issue, the Democrats' radicalism on transgender issues,
00:38:10.360 and in particular, boys' and girls' sports, boys' and girls' locker rooms and dressing rooms,
00:38:15.660 and also Kamala Harris's support of using taxpayer dollars to pay for sex changes for illegal aliens in prison.
00:38:25.680 And by the way, when Trump brought that up at the debate, I pointed out that sounded like something you would hear on Saturday Night Live.
00:38:33.320 That sounds like something almost made up.
00:38:35.340 Sex changes for illegal immigrants in jail.
00:38:38.460 Like, let's just make it so wacky that only a loon would support it.
00:38:43.080 Now, of course, Kamala Harris did support it.
00:38:46.260 And when Britt Baer asked her about it, again, I'm going to give you a surprise.
00:38:50.160 What did she do?
00:38:50.760 She pivots to Trump.
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00:41:07.820 Again, Kamala Harris, in her own words, on transgender surgeries and transition surgeries in general in prison that you're supposed to be paying for.
00:41:18.300 Listen.
00:41:18.820 It's gotten a lot of attention.
00:41:20.280 Kamala supports taxpayer-funded sex changes for prisoners.
00:41:23.700 Surgery.
00:41:25.200 For prisoners.
00:41:26.300 For prisoners.
00:41:27.260 Every transgender inmate in the prison system would have access.
00:41:32.420 So, are you still in support of using taxpayer dollars to help prison inmates or detained illegal aliens to transition to another gender?
00:41:41.400 I will follow the law.
00:41:43.340 And it's a law that Donald Trump actually followed.
00:41:45.860 You're probably familiar with, now it's a public report, that under Donald Trump's administration, these surgeries were available to, on a medical necessity basis, to people in the federal prison system.
00:42:02.320 And I think, frankly, that ad from the Trump campaign is a little bit of like throwing, you know, stones when you're living in a glass house.
00:42:09.140 The Trump aides say that he never advocated for that prison policy and no gender transition surgeries happened during his presidency.
00:42:14.360 Well, you know what, you've got to take responsibility for what happened in your administration.
00:42:17.640 Yeah, no surgeries happened in his pregnancy.
00:42:19.660 It's in whack and whine.
00:42:20.640 Would you still advocate for using taxpayer dollars for gender reassignment surgeries?
00:42:24.340 I will follow the law, just as I think.
00:42:27.920 I mean, it's amazing.
00:42:29.160 She accuses Trump of doing something, and Brett Baird's like, you never did that.
00:42:32.920 She's like, yes, he did.
00:42:34.440 No, actually, he really didn't.
00:42:36.080 And she's like, I will follow the law.
00:42:38.380 This is, again, back to Trump.
00:42:40.640 It's all Trump's fault, even though I'm in charge.
00:42:44.440 Well, and I actually think the funniest statement in all of that is, well, you've got to take responsibility for what happens in your administration.
00:42:52.380 I will be surprised if we don't see that clip air, and immediately after it, I'm Donald Trump, and I approve this message.
00:42:59.260 I mean, it really is.
00:43:00.500 Talk about an indictment of every other word of the interview.
00:43:03.300 She's not taking responsibility for anything that has happened in her administration.
00:43:07.860 Everything that's gone wrong under Joe Biden and Kamala Harris, it's all Trump's fault.
00:43:11.840 And by the way, everything that went right when Trump was president, that's not his fault at all.
00:43:17.200 And it really does show how, at the end of the day, her entire argument is that she hates Trump.
00:43:24.260 And I promise you, nobody remotely conscious missed the point that she and the rest of the Democratic Party hates Trump.
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00:44:09.960 I want to move to this other issue because I think it's really important.
00:44:13.400 And it is the breaking news out of Israel that Israel has killed the October 7th mastermind.
00:44:20.940 It is interesting.
00:44:22.780 It took them about a year to do that.
00:44:24.780 It's something that we in this country have still not accomplished since 9-11.
00:44:29.100 The mastermind of 9-11, Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, has still not been executed.
00:44:34.120 Even though we have him in our custody, many Democrats have tried to give him a plea deal
00:44:38.460 to save his life, which was a major point that we talked about and were able to at least
00:44:43.860 stop that deal from taking place because of so many listeners that were outraged by the
00:44:50.020 decision by the Biden-Harris administration to give him a deal as the mastermind of 9-11.
00:44:55.960 Israel said, yeah, we're not going to do that.
00:44:58.760 We're not going to do that at all.
00:45:00.680 In fact, what we're going to do is we're going to kill the leader of Hamas that planned
00:45:05.680 this attack.
00:45:07.080 And they did it today and told the world, yeah, we're not messing around.
00:45:13.040 We're taking out everybody that was involved in this attack on innocent civilians and those
00:45:18.420 that took hostages.
00:45:19.440 Look, that that is exactly right.
00:45:23.760 And I will say this is a very, very good day for Israel.
00:45:27.260 It's a very good day for America.
00:45:29.100 The Hamas leader, Senwar, hated America, was responsible for American deaths.
00:45:34.700 And it's a good day for justice.
00:45:36.700 And here, I want you to listen to to to the coverage when the Israeli foreign minister confirms
00:45:44.380 that the Hamas leader is dead.
00:45:45.880 Give a listen.
00:45:46.300 This is a Fox News alert.
00:45:49.300 Reuters is now reporting that Israel's foreign minister has just confirmed the death of Hamas
00:45:55.660 leader, Yahya Senwar.
00:45:58.220 Yahya Senwar was responsible and the mastermind between the vicious October 7th attack.
00:46:04.220 That was the deadliest attack on Jews since the Holocaust.
00:46:08.620 And Reuters is reporting that Israeli officials who were analyzing his dental records that he
00:46:14.480 is, in fact, dead.
00:46:15.460 We go to Trey Yankst in Haifa, Israel, with more on this developing story.
00:46:19.260 Trey.
00:46:21.340 Yeah, guys, good afternoon.
00:46:22.760 According to reports, the leader of Hamas, Yahya Senwar, is dead.
00:46:27.020 We cannot independently confirm this.
00:46:28.980 And I'm going to tell you why.
00:46:30.320 There are two things ongoing at the moment.
00:46:32.540 Israeli officials are using dental records and they are using DNA to try to match Yahya Senwar's
00:46:38.820 DNA to DNA the Israelis have in their file.
00:46:41.480 The dental records match, but we are waiting to report until the DNA test comes back, just
00:46:46.860 given how high profile this figure is.
00:46:49.420 But again, according to reports attributed to Israel's foreign minister, Israel Katz, Yahya
00:46:54.860 Senwar is dead.
00:46:56.000 This follows an Israeli operation in southern Gaza today, reportedly in the city of Rafah,
00:47:01.680 Gaza's third largest city that sits next to the Egyptian border.
00:47:05.820 This was not a planned intelligence operation, according to officials, but rather a ground
00:47:10.480 patrol that intercepted movement in southern Gaza.
00:47:13.940 Ultimately, Israeli forces reportedly fired on that movement.
00:47:17.520 And among the cell of Hamas militants was the leader, Yahya Senwar.
00:47:21.500 Now, Senwar is a man who has been at the top of the Israeli target list since October 7th.
00:47:27.120 He is one of three masterminds behind the massacre, along with Mohammed Def, a man who
00:47:32.200 was killed in an Israeli airstrike earlier this year, and Ismail Haniyeh, a man who was
00:47:36.920 killed in an explosion in the Iranian capital of Tehran over the summer.
00:47:41.040 So now that this is confirmed, the three masterminds behind the massacre are dead.
00:47:45.520 Now, Senwar spent 22 years in an Israeli prison.
00:47:48.540 He was released back in 2011 as part of a prisoner swap deal for one single Israeli soldier,
00:47:54.200 Gilad Shalit.
00:47:55.420 Shalit was exchanged for more than a thousand Palestinian prisoners.
00:47:58.980 Now, when Senwar went back to Gaza, he was appointed to a defense minister level position
00:48:03.680 among Hamas's Al-Qassan brigades, the military wing of Hamas, and then ultimately later took
00:48:09.200 over as the leader of Hamas inside Gaza.
00:48:11.920 The last time that I saw Senwar was in 2021.
00:48:14.740 The month was May, and he was giving a rally where an infamous photo of him was taken holding
00:48:20.040 a Palestinian child who was dressed as a member of the Al-Qassan brigades.
00:48:24.900 Senwar is someone who has devoted his life to killing Israelis, despite the fact that the
00:48:29.540 Israelis actually saved his life during brain surgery on him in the early 2000s while he
00:48:34.500 was still in prison.
00:48:36.000 And following the October 7th massacre, he had been hiding in the tunnel network beneath
00:48:39.960 Gaza.
00:48:40.360 Some of the Israeli hostages who were released as part of the November ceasefire deal back
00:48:45.060 in 2023 reported meeting him in the tunnels beneath Gaza City.
00:48:49.720 And so this is significant news and an indication that the Israelis will continue to pick off the
00:48:54.880 remaining Hamas leaders that exist still inside Gaza.
00:48:58.080 They have destroyed the battalions within the Gaza Strip.
00:49:01.300 But the question remains, what does this mean for the remaining Israeli hostages inside Gaza?
00:49:06.260 101 of them are there.
00:49:07.920 Around half of them are estimated to be alive.
00:49:11.000 And Israeli sources are texting now.
00:49:12.860 They are talking about this news that is taking place.
00:49:15.880 We do expect to hear from Israel's Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu later tonight, Israel time.
00:49:22.340 And the Israelis, according to this source, are in communication with their American counterparts
00:49:26.900 to discuss the operation that took place today.
00:49:29.720 Again, according to our reporting, this was not a planned operation, but rather one that took
00:49:33.980 place after movement was identified inside the Gaza Strip.
00:49:37.560 Again, the latest information that we have attributable to reports we are waiting for DNA evidence
00:49:42.660 is that Yahya Sinwar, the leader of Hamas, is dead.
00:49:46.200 Guys?
00:49:47.380 I mean, this is incredible news.
00:49:49.580 And I love how steadfast Netanyahu has been.
00:49:52.860 Yes.
00:49:54.500 So, two observations.
00:49:56.740 Number one, on yet another issue, Kamala Harris was wrong.
00:50:03.240 Remember, Kamala Harris has been opposing Israel, continuing to fight to eliminate Hamas.
00:50:13.360 Kamala Harris was explicit urging Israel, opposing Israel, going on the offensive in Rafa.
00:50:21.160 And she claimed to be an expert.
00:50:23.020 She claimed to know that nothing could be accomplished.
00:50:25.900 And what happened today proved that wrong.
00:50:28.800 I want you to listen to a flashback of Kamala in March of 2024, when she's claiming to know
00:50:35.600 that going into Rafa is going to be a mistake.
00:50:37.320 We have been clear in multiple conversations and in every way that any major military operation
00:50:49.920 in Rafa would be a huge mistake.
00:50:53.000 Let me tell you something.
00:50:53.740 I have studied the maps.
00:50:56.520 There's nowhere for those folks to go.
00:50:58.200 And we're looking at about a million and a half people in Rafa who are there because
00:51:02.380 they were told to go there, most of them.
00:51:05.180 And so, we've been very clear that it would be a mistake to move into Rafa with any type
00:51:11.540 of military operation.
00:51:13.080 A mistake, but would there be consequences if he does move forward?
00:51:17.400 Well, we're going to take it one step at a time, but we've been very clear in terms
00:51:20.440 of our perspective on whether or not that should happen.
00:51:22.520 Are you ruling out that there would be consequences from the United States?
00:51:26.340 I am ruling out nothing.
00:51:29.140 Wow.
00:51:30.340 Well, once again, Kamala Harris was wrong.
00:51:33.140 She was wrong.
00:51:34.360 She was threatening Israel with consequences.
00:51:37.500 And to be clear, she and Joe Biden cut off critical weapons to Israel and have been pressuring
00:51:43.400 and undermining Israel at every stage since October 7th and long before that.
00:51:49.260 She was categorically wrong.
00:51:50.780 And I'll tell you, the real consequences, the consequences were for Sinwar.
00:51:54.800 And this is the final point that I want to wrap up the podcast with.
00:51:58.740 You know, it was 12 years ago that I was elected to the Senate.
00:52:02.060 And when I came into the Senate at the time, I resolved to be the leading defender of Israel
00:52:07.840 in the Senate.
00:52:09.060 And I got to tell you, a lot of times people ask me, how on earth did it come to pass that
00:52:15.420 a Cuban, Texan, Southern Baptist would end up the leading defender of Israel in the United
00:52:22.760 States Senate?
00:52:23.940 And there are a lot of reasons.
00:52:25.660 But one of the fundamental reasons, and I've described this before, is I was a little kid
00:52:30.920 when the Entebbe raid happened.
00:52:32.760 I was, I think, five years old.
00:52:35.680 And listen, I didn't understand in detail what happened in the Entebbe raid, but it made an
00:52:40.280 impression on me as a child.
00:52:42.260 And my understanding of the Entebbe raid at the time was the people of Israel were saying,
00:52:48.160 if you take our citizens hostage, our citizens might die.
00:52:55.520 But you are going to die.
00:52:59.120 And I got to say, Ben, as a five-year-old, that struck me as a very Texan foreign policy.
00:53:05.740 There was a clarity to that.
00:53:07.540 And I got to say, the three masterminds of October 7th, including Senwar, the head of Hamas,
00:53:13.640 well, they've gone to meet their 72 virgins.
00:53:15.940 And I think they're disappointed with what they found.
00:53:18.740 And there is an absolute seriousness with which Benjamin Netanyahu and the nation of
00:53:24.780 Israel takes protecting themselves, protecting their citizens, protecting their safety, defeating
00:53:30.520 Hamas, defeating Hezbollah.
00:53:32.300 And that is good for America, good for Israel, good for the world, and cause for celebration.
00:53:38.680 Amen to that.
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