Verdict with Ted Cruz - Kyle’s Verdict Is In

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00:00:04.280 The verdict is in, in the most controversial case in the country.

00:00:09.720 That would be the trial of Kyle Rittenhouse.

00:00:12.320 Everybody seems to have an opinion about it.

00:00:14.780 Not very many of those opinions are particularly informed by fact.

00:00:18.540 So on this podcast, we're going to get back to our roots

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00:00:24.320 What actually happened, what the law says,

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00:04:36.720 Welcome back to Verdict with Ted Cruz.

00:04:38.860 It is so wonderful to be with our friend Liz Wheeler again.

00:04:42.040 Liz, I know you've been away.

00:04:43.680 You've been doing your own speeches.

00:04:44.760 You've been doing your show, The Liz Wheeler Show.

00:04:46.680 Last time I saw you, I was on your show

00:04:49.800 at the National Conservatism Conference

00:04:52.180 where all three of us actually were speaking.

00:04:55.640 And it's wonderful to be with you finally again.

00:04:58.620 Yeah, it's so good to see you.

00:04:59.820 It is funny how the three of us

00:05:01.120 tend to always be in the same location,

00:05:02.700 but not because of the same reason we come separately.

00:05:05.560 But we did.

00:05:06.160 We got to sit down for a long-form interview you and I did.

00:05:08.840 We did.

00:05:09.280 And we actually talked about this guy,

00:05:10.840 who's the other guy on this show.

00:05:12.720 What's his name?

00:05:13.380 He's the sitting U.S. senator.

00:05:14.600 I forget what's that.

00:05:15.080 Ted Cruz, yes.

00:05:15.680 I don't know if your ears were itching a little bit

00:05:17.560 when we did discuss you.

00:05:18.760 We did discuss your show,

00:05:19.560 even though you weren't there.

00:05:20.600 Whatever you said, I wasn't there.

00:05:22.140 I didn't do it.

00:05:22.760 Yeah, so whatever it is, total lies.

00:05:24.860 Do not believe a word of it.

00:05:26.580 Well, we're going to be getting into exactly

00:05:28.080 what happened here in not just,

00:05:30.960 not merely the political angles

00:05:33.440 and the media angles and the narratives,

00:05:34.760 but what actually happened in Kenosha, Wisconsin

00:05:37.340 that led to this trial of Kyle Rittenhouse.

00:05:39.220 Then we will get to what it means.

00:05:41.020 So Liz, we will see you in just a little bit

00:05:43.260 when we need to process what all of this actually means.

00:05:46.460 Thanks, Michael.

00:05:47.680 Everybody at home, everybody at work

00:05:50.460 is talking about this verdict.

00:05:53.320 And it is an amazing thing because it is so polarized.

00:05:56.360 Listen, we live in a time where everything is polarized.

00:05:58.660 But the morality tale that is told

00:06:02.000 about the trial of Kyle Rittenhouse,

00:06:04.100 they're two different universes.

00:06:06.920 If you talk to someone on the left,

00:06:10.520 they are horrified.

00:06:11.940 They are shaken. 1.00

00:06:12.960 They're like, okay, some crazed white supremacist 0.99

00:06:17.480 illegally brought a gun across state lines 1.00

00:06:20.220 and then gunned down protesters.

00:06:22.340 And now he was set free 0.87

00:06:24.060 and vigilantes are encouraged to shoot anyone they want.

00:06:26.600 On the other side, you get a morality play of,

00:06:30.440 you know, Kyle Rittenhouse,

00:06:31.960 this great hero for justice was vindicated.

00:06:36.460 And listen, I am very glad for the verdict.

00:06:38.740 I think the jury reached the right verdict,

00:06:41.200 which is not guilty.

00:06:43.240 But by any measure,

00:06:45.440 what happened that night in Wisconsin was a tragedy.

00:06:48.280 And it was a tragedy on many fronts.

00:06:50.600 Because there is a lot of ignorance

00:06:52.600 just on the basic facts of the case.

00:06:55.220 You know, members of my own family

00:06:57.780 have reached out to me and said,

00:06:59.460 wait, I thought this happened.

00:07:00.420 Wait, I thought it was like this.

00:07:01.820 You know, and just getting things wrong.

00:07:03.620 Maria Shriver actually sent out a tweet.

00:07:06.000 Maria Shriver is as plugged in to the media 0.54

00:07:08.420 and to politics as it can possibly be

00:07:10.580 when you're a Kennedy.

00:07:12.060 And nevertheless,

00:07:13.640 she seemed not to understand the basic facts.

00:07:16.020 I think you had a little bit of an exchange

00:07:17.680 with her on Twitter.

00:07:18.800 Well, I did.

00:07:19.700 So her tweet was rather amazing

00:07:22.580 in that she tweeted,

00:07:25.260 she said,

00:07:25.940 I'm trying to take a beat

00:07:27.720 to digest the Rittenhouse verdict.

00:07:30.400 My son just asked me,

00:07:32.260 how is it possible

00:07:33.680 that he didn't get charged for anything?

00:07:37.320 How is that possible?

00:07:39.560 I don't have an answer for it.

00:07:42.000 And I got to say,

00:07:42.640 I read this and look on one level,

00:07:44.040 it's stunning.

00:07:45.200 I mean, this woman,

00:07:45.940 I looked actually at her Twitter.

00:07:48.120 I wasn't sure what she's doing now,

00:07:49.460 but her Twitter bio

00:07:51.420 describes herself today

00:07:53.100 as an NBC anchor.

00:07:54.420 So she is literally paid 0.97

00:07:55.660 to be a journalist

00:07:56.740 and presumably to report on the news.

00:07:59.740 And she has absolutely no idea

00:08:01.720 what occurred.

00:08:02.940 Try this.

00:08:04.180 Number one,

00:08:05.640 he was charged.

00:08:06.860 Remember, she starts with,

00:08:08.240 how could it be that he wasn't charged?

00:08:10.280 He was charged.

00:08:11.320 He obviously was charged.

00:08:12.720 There was a trial.

00:08:14.300 He was charged with six counts.

00:08:16.060 And as I tweeted,

00:08:17.180 that thing that just finished

00:08:18.660 was his trial.

00:08:21.080 Like, let's start with that.

00:08:22.560 NBC is claiming

00:08:23.480 he wasn't charged with anything.

00:08:26.180 Very basic facts.

00:08:27.820 Look, let's stop for a second

00:08:30.080 and go back to what happened that night.

00:08:33.160 Last year, we all remember,

00:08:35.400 we saw riots occurring across the country.

00:08:39.580 We saw violent riots occurring

00:08:41.900 across the country.

00:08:44.300 And we saw in the August of 2020,

00:08:48.860 in these riots,

00:08:50.260 we saw cars being firebombed.

00:08:53.260 We saw stores being looted.

00:08:55.400 We saw enormous mayhem.

00:08:58.720 And we saw it made even worse

00:09:00.460 by politicians,

00:09:02.260 almost exclusively Democrats,

00:09:04.480 and maybe exclusively Democrats,

00:09:06.520 refusing to enforce the laws.

00:09:09.140 And so allowing these riots to rage.

00:09:12.400 And in Kenosha, Wisconsin,

00:09:14.860 there were three days of violent riots

00:09:18.100 and hundreds of fires set

00:09:20.720 and stores looted

00:09:22.840 and car dealerships looted

00:09:24.300 and just rampant violence.

00:09:26.520 And this was led by BLM and Antifa.

00:09:30.520 I mean, the Kenosha riot

00:09:32.040 was specifically because

00:09:33.960 the cops shot Jacob Blake,

00:09:37.020 who was a man who was resisting arrest,

00:09:39.020 who was accused of sexual assault,

00:09:41.020 who was reaching into a car with a weapon.

00:09:43.220 The car had kids in it as well.

00:09:45.080 You know, there had been this long standoff

00:09:46.980 where he wouldn't submit to being arrested.

00:09:51.000 But even that

00:09:52.300 then caused days and days of riots

00:09:54.260 as though it were some grave injustice.

00:09:57.060 Yeah, you literally had a knife-wielding felon

00:10:00.100 who was threatening the police officers

00:10:03.160 who got shot.

00:10:04.080 And by the way,

00:10:04.760 it's a really bad idea

00:10:05.980 to threaten police officers with a weapon.

00:10:08.520 It can very easily end in deadly force.

00:10:11.760 And that is what occurred there.

00:10:14.020 But in this hyper-leftist environment,

00:10:17.780 a criminal threatening a police officer

00:10:20.760 with a weapon who in turn faces deadly force

00:10:23.740 becomes lionized as a hero.

00:10:26.720 Yeah.

00:10:27.340 And we had riots occurring for multiple days.

00:10:30.740 Now, Kyle Rittenhouse, he was 17 years old.

00:10:33.580 Kyle lived about 20 miles away from Kenosha.

00:10:37.080 So he lived in Illinois.

00:10:38.280 It is true he lived in Illinois.

00:10:40.120 But right on the state line

00:10:42.120 between Illinois and Wisconsin.

00:10:45.060 And Kenosha, Wisconsin is where

00:10:47.840 Kyle Rittenhouse's mom lived.

00:10:50.540 It's where Kyle actually worked.

00:10:51.900 He worked as a lifeguard in Kenosha.

00:10:54.060 So to say cross state lines,

00:10:55.660 people get this image of someone,

00:10:57.460 you know,

00:10:58.340 me traveling from Texas

00:11:00.280 to New York or something.

00:11:02.460 You know,

00:11:03.840 I mean,

00:11:04.140 this was 20 miles away from his house.

00:11:06.440 This was his neighborhood

00:11:07.880 where his mom worked,

00:11:09.020 where his mom lived,

00:11:10.280 where he worked.

00:11:11.800 And there were multiple days of protests.

00:11:14.180 And so Kyle went there

00:11:15.800 to help protect the stores,

00:11:20.320 help protect the properties

00:11:21.420 that were being burned,

00:11:22.580 that were being looted.

00:11:24.200 And that sadly,

00:11:25.920 that the local law enforcement

00:11:27.440 was not protecting.

00:11:30.160 He went there.

00:11:31.960 One of the things

00:11:32.960 that has been widely reported

00:11:34.580 that people say is,

00:11:35.800 well,

00:11:35.940 he was illegally carrying a gun.

00:11:38.320 That is, in fact, false.

00:11:40.420 He actually did not carry

00:11:41.640 any gun across state lines.

00:11:43.640 When he got to Wisconsin,

00:11:45.100 he met a friend there

00:11:46.180 who had an AR-15.

00:11:47.540 Now, what is an AR-15?

00:11:49.060 And this is, again,

00:11:49.900 where people don't,

00:11:51.480 people don't necessarily

00:11:53.400 understand the language.

00:11:54.440 An AR-15 is a rifle.

00:11:55.980 It's not a machine gun.

00:11:57.660 An AR-15 is a legal rifle.

00:11:59.880 In fact, it's the most popular rifle

00:12:01.880 in the United States of America.

00:12:03.800 It is a common rifle

00:12:05.300 used for home defense.

00:12:09.020 The difference,

00:12:10.300 for those who are not

00:12:11.780 familiar with firearms,

00:12:14.180 between an automatic rifle

00:12:15.980 and a semi-automatic rifle,

00:12:17.320 an automatic rifle

00:12:18.100 is a machine gun.

00:12:19.260 You hold the trigger down

00:12:20.380 and lots of bullets come out.

00:12:23.100 A semi-automatic rifle,

00:12:25.100 you pull the trigger once,

00:12:26.600 one bullet comes out.

00:12:27.620 You pull the trigger again,

00:12:28.760 a second bullet comes out.

00:12:30.000 So it takes one bullet

00:12:31.700 for each pull of the trigger

00:12:32.840 is the difference

00:12:33.440 between automatic

00:12:34.300 and semi-automatic.

00:12:36.200 Generally speaking,

00:12:37.440 automatic rifles,

00:12:39.380 machine guns,

00:12:40.200 are largely,

00:12:41.360 they're functionally illegal.

00:12:42.500 They've been functionally illegal

00:12:43.920 for over 80 years.

00:12:44.880 You have very,

00:12:45.460 very limited licenses

00:12:46.380 and permits to get one,

00:12:48.000 but as a practical matter,

00:12:49.600 most Americans,

00:12:50.440 it's illegal to own a machine gun.

00:12:52.180 Kyle Rittenhouse

00:12:52.680 didn't have a machine gun.

00:12:53.640 He had a semi-automatic rifle.

00:12:54.900 That rifle was his friend's rifle

00:12:57.980 that his friend allowed him

00:13:01.240 to use in Kenosha that night

00:13:03.140 because they were both going out

00:13:04.420 to try to protect

00:13:05.240 the local community,

00:13:06.300 protect the local community

00:13:07.480 from violent criminals

00:13:09.060 that were threatening

00:13:09.800 the community.

00:13:11.120 So on the claim

00:13:12.600 that he had an illegal gun,

00:13:14.720 we know that claim is false

00:13:16.340 because I mentioned a minute ago

00:13:17.540 he had six charges.

00:13:19.940 One of the charges

00:13:21.120 that was brought against him

00:13:22.520 was that he was carrying

00:13:25.000 a gun illegally.

00:13:26.700 That charge was dismissed

00:13:28.160 by the trial court.

00:13:29.060 As a matter of law,

00:13:30.020 the court ruled

00:13:30.880 that it was wrong,

00:13:33.000 that it was legal

00:13:33.940 for him to possess

00:13:34.760 the firearm he had.

00:13:36.020 So that claim is false.

00:13:37.960 What happened

00:13:38.560 was a violent riot

00:13:39.540 was unfolding

00:13:40.240 and the violent riot

00:13:41.980 consisted of a lot

00:13:43.820 of really violent criminals.

00:13:45.880 The first individual

00:13:49.560 that Rittenhouse encountered

00:13:52.420 was a violent felon

00:13:58.040 named Rosenbaum.

00:14:01.420 Rosenbaum was a convicted

00:14:04.140 child molester,

00:14:05.240 someone who served 15 years

00:14:06.940 in prison.

00:14:07.420 A serial child molester

00:14:08.960 was more than one time.

00:14:11.900 He pleaded guilty

00:14:13.180 to two counts

00:14:14.200 of molesting teenage boys.

00:14:16.840 At the time

00:14:17.920 he was charged,

00:14:18.660 it was alleged

00:14:19.180 that he had molested

00:14:20.160 five different teenage boys

00:14:22.860 and he pleaded guilty

00:14:24.000 and served 15 years for it.

00:14:25.420 So you were talking

00:14:26.200 a serious,

00:14:28.040 violent criminal 1.00

00:14:28.840 and child molester. 0.98

00:14:31.260 Rosenbaum 0.82

00:14:31.860 saw Rittenhouse,

00:14:38.540 angrily pursued Rittenhouse,

00:14:40.720 screamed at him

00:14:42.760 that he was going 0.75

00:14:43.340 to kill Rittenhouse,

00:14:45.760 chased Rittenhouse

00:14:47.040 and tried to physically

00:14:49.460 grab his gun.

00:14:52.360 Now, Kyle Rittenhouse

00:14:53.720 is running away

00:14:55.440 at the time.

00:14:57.440 He's facing

00:14:58.600 a large,

00:15:00.720 angry, 1.00

00:15:02.000 violent felon 1.00

00:15:03.100 who is screaming 0.98

00:15:05.280 death threats at him

00:15:06.620 and trying to physically

00:15:09.080 take his gun

00:15:10.020 and it is quite reasonable

00:15:11.440 for someone to believe

00:15:13.320 if the violent criminal

00:15:14.340 succeeds in taking your gun

00:15:15.920 that he will do

00:15:17.900 what he is threatening

00:15:18.620 to do 1.00

00:15:19.020 which is to kill you. 1.00

00:15:20.820 And so Kyle Rittenhouse 1.00

00:15:22.000 shoots Rosenbaum

00:15:23.400 and kills Rosenbaum 0.99

00:15:24.320 as he's trying

00:15:26.080 to take his gun.

00:15:28.320 At this point,

00:15:29.880 what does Rittenhouse

00:15:32.000 do next?

00:15:32.860 And remember the narrative

00:15:34.060 that's being told

00:15:34.960 of he's this,

00:15:35.720 you know, 0.77

00:15:36.760 crazed vigilante. 0.59

00:15:38.020 He's out there 0.97

00:15:39.080 like wanting 0.99

00:15:39.740 to shoot people. 0.99

00:15:41.980 Rittenhouse begins 0.99

00:15:42.980 running towards

00:15:44.080 the police barricades

00:15:45.380 trying to turn himself in.

00:15:49.320 Um,

00:15:50.020 and a mob

00:15:52.360 chases him.

00:15:53.060 So Rittenhouse

00:15:54.440 running toward the cops

00:15:55.840 presumably

00:15:56.660 not because

00:15:58.600 he believes

00:15:59.400 he has committed

00:15:59.880 some crime

00:16:00.460 but as he's doing it

00:16:01.220 this mob,

00:16:02.400 this Antifa

00:16:03.380 and BLM mob

00:16:04.840 starts chasing after him

00:16:06.400 and Rittenhouse

00:16:07.300 goes down.

00:16:08.400 Now at this point

00:16:09.080 you get the second

00:16:10.100 interaction that's in play

00:16:11.580 with the Rittenhouse trial

00:16:13.600 and that is

00:16:14.500 Anthony Huber.

00:16:15.760 So Anthony Huber,

00:16:17.100 another convicted felon

00:16:18.000 comes up

00:16:18.720 and Huber

00:16:19.100 doesn't have a gun.

00:16:21.140 Huber has

00:16:21.760 a skateboard.

00:16:23.320 Now at a lot

00:16:24.260 of these BLM

00:16:25.020 and Antifa riots

00:16:25.960 the weapons

00:16:27.320 that are used

00:16:27.940 are not always

00:16:28.860 conventional weapons.

00:16:30.180 Sometimes it's

00:16:30.820 a baseball bat.

00:16:31.580 Sometimes it's

00:16:32.840 a skateboard.

00:16:33.920 Sometimes it's

00:16:35.300 a can of soup.

00:16:36.860 They'll actually

00:16:37.200 throw cans at you

00:16:38.020 because cans are very heavy

00:16:38.920 and if they clock you

00:16:39.860 on the head

00:16:40.340 that's not going to

00:16:42.100 leave you feeling

00:16:42.720 very good

00:16:43.260 and that can really

00:16:44.120 do some damage.

00:16:45.140 But this is

00:16:45.900 a part that's

00:16:46.780 a little bit

00:16:47.320 controverted

00:16:48.340 because what

00:16:49.080 the defenders

00:16:49.680 of these felons

00:16:51.320 and Antifa

00:16:52.000 and BLM

00:16:52.500 were saying

00:16:52.940 is that Rittenhouse

00:16:54.260 had no right

00:16:55.120 to shoot a guy

00:16:56.120 who was simply 0.99

00:16:57.200 hitting him

00:16:58.180 with a skateboard.

00:16:58.920 Actually one of

00:16:59.480 the prosecutors

00:17:00.000 in the case

00:17:00.640 said look

00:17:01.520 everybody takes

00:17:02.520 a beating

00:17:02.960 every now and again.

00:17:04.160 Is that

00:17:04.440 the legal standard?

00:17:06.900 You know

00:17:07.280 it's not.

00:17:09.200 You have a right

00:17:10.260 to defend yourself

00:17:11.160 from an imminent threat

00:17:12.380 to your life

00:17:14.120 and an imminent threat

00:17:15.040 of harm

00:17:15.520 and he's afraid

00:17:17.040 for his life

00:17:17.700 and so Huber

00:17:18.320 is the second person

00:17:19.460 as this guy

00:17:19.960 is assaulting him

00:17:20.820 again 0.88

00:17:21.200 that he shoots 0.99

00:17:22.500 and kills Huber. 0.96

00:17:25.060 He then has 0.53

00:17:26.020 a third

00:17:27.080 violent felon

00:17:28.660 Gage Grosskreutz

00:17:31.140 who

00:17:32.540 a third

00:17:34.440 convicted felon

00:17:35.380 is chasing him.

00:17:39.780 Grosskreutz

00:17:40.340 is armed.

00:17:41.000 Now interestingly

00:17:41.660 somebody here

00:17:42.480 did have a gun

00:17:43.120 illegally

00:17:43.460 that would be

00:17:43.980 Gage Grosskreutz

00:17:45.140 who was the felon

00:17:46.400 who illegally

00:17:47.060 had a firearm

00:17:47.800 was carrying it

00:17:48.500 illegally

00:17:48.860 without a license.

00:17:50.940 And

00:17:51.260 Gage testifies

00:17:53.980 at the trial

00:17:54.880 that he points

00:17:56.660 his gun

00:17:57.280 directly at

00:17:58.660 Kyle

00:17:59.880 from three feet

00:18:01.240 away

00:18:01.500 points his gun

00:18:02.560 and when he

00:18:03.580 points his gun

00:18:04.380 Kyle fires again

00:18:05.500 hits him in the arm

00:18:06.400 doesn't kill Gage 0.97

00:18:08.320 Gage survives

00:18:09.040 and testifies

00:18:09.720 but does real damage

00:18:10.560 to his arm.

00:18:12.760 Those are the three

00:18:13.720 people that were

00:18:14.300 shot that night.

00:18:16.640 Now it's worth

00:18:17.620 noting several

00:18:18.400 of the facts

00:18:19.220 that the media

00:18:20.740 got wrong.

00:18:21.400 Number one

00:18:22.020 there are

00:18:24.460 I'd be willing

00:18:25.140 to bet

00:18:25.620 tens of millions

00:18:27.360 of people

00:18:27.920 across America

00:18:29.200 who believe

00:18:30.260 Kyle Rittenhouse

00:18:31.080 shot three black men 0.96

00:18:32.240 because this has all 0.99

00:18:33.960 been painted

00:18:34.400 as a racial

00:18:35.380 attack.

00:18:37.420 As it so

00:18:38.400 happens

00:18:38.940 Kyle Rittenhouse

00:18:41.620 did not shoot

00:18:42.500 any African

00:18:43.300 Americans.

00:18:44.040 All three of the

00:18:44.860 people he shot

00:18:45.540 were white. 0.59

00:18:47.100 Secondly

00:18:47.620 you know

00:18:49.240 it's interesting

00:18:49.720 I've heard

00:18:50.100 some people

00:18:50.540 who say

00:18:50.880 well

00:18:51.440 Rittenhouse

00:18:53.340 didn't know

00:18:54.320 these guys

00:18:55.480 were criminals

00:18:56.040 and it's worth

00:18:57.300 pausing and thinking

00:18:58.180 why is it

00:18:58.960 that all three

00:18:59.680 of the

00:19:00.080 people who

00:19:01.020 were shot

00:19:01.540 were criminals

00:19:02.880 and let me

00:19:03.520 just say

00:19:03.920 look

00:19:04.260 when you're

00:19:05.200 at a violent

00:19:06.100 riot

00:19:06.560 where they're

00:19:08.140 committing

00:19:08.580 crimes

00:19:10.160 all around

00:19:10.880 you

00:19:11.140 where they're

00:19:11.480 burning cars

00:19:12.220 where they're

00:19:12.660 looting

00:19:13.140 many of the

00:19:15.200 people

00:19:15.480 I'd venture

00:19:16.020 to say

00:19:16.460 most of the

00:19:17.220 people there 0.97

00:19:17.860 are criminals.

00:19:19.820 Well this is 0.96

00:19:20.180 I think

00:19:20.460 where the

00:19:20.740 confusion

00:19:21.180 comes from

00:19:23.340 because

00:19:23.720 the way

00:19:24.420 the media

00:19:24.860 presented

00:19:25.480 this riot

00:19:26.340 is they said

00:19:26.820 it was a

00:19:27.180 peaceful

00:19:27.760 protest

00:19:28.320 of anti-racist

00:19:29.980 demonstrators

00:19:30.700 and so yes

00:19:31.560 if you're

00:19:32.160 at a

00:19:32.420 peaceful

00:19:32.920 protest

00:19:33.360 of anti-racist

00:19:34.220 demonstrators

00:19:34.780 then you have

00:19:35.740 no reason

00:19:36.180 to believe

00:19:36.660 that the

00:19:36.960 people

00:19:37.260 who are

00:19:37.860 around

00:19:38.260 you

00:19:38.480 are 1.00

00:19:38.680 criminals

00:19:39.120 but

00:19:39.840 that wasn't

00:19:40.560 the reality

00:19:41.120 if you are

00:19:42.020 at a

00:19:42.640 violent

00:19:42.940 riot

00:19:43.260 with arson

00:19:43.860 and looting

00:19:44.360 and assault

00:19:45.100 and attempted

00:19:46.160 murder

00:19:46.540 then there's

00:19:47.660 a very good

00:19:48.080 chance

00:19:48.440 if you're

00:19:48.800 if you are

00:19:49.320 around

00:19:49.720 antifa

00:19:50.500 or some

00:19:51.580 of the

00:19:51.840 more lurid

00:19:52.380 figures of

00:19:52.920 BLM 1.00

00:19:53.460 there is a

00:19:54.360 statistically

00:19:55.320 it's almost

00:19:55.980 a statistical

00:19:56.540 certainty

00:19:57.100 that you are

00:19:57.920 around

00:19:58.400 criminals

00:19:59.080 so we

00:20:00.440 know what

00:20:01.180 happened

00:20:01.560 which is

00:20:01.920 very different

00:20:02.440 than what

00:20:02.800 the media

00:20:03.120 told us

00:20:03.720 happened

00:20:04.440 we know

00:20:05.740 that legally

00:20:06.980 Rittenhouse

00:20:07.720 was in the

00:20:08.220 right

00:20:08.500 we know

00:20:09.360 that the

00:20:09.920 judge

00:20:10.560 you know

00:20:11.480 then the

00:20:12.040 jury

00:20:12.340 reached that

00:20:12.960 conclusion

00:20:13.400 certainly

00:20:13.720 the jury

00:20:14.020 reached that

00:20:14.480 conclusion

00:20:14.880 and so

00:20:15.760 he has

00:20:16.160 been

00:20:16.440 exonerated

00:20:17.460 in this

00:20:17.960 trial

00:20:18.400 but now

00:20:19.520 now that

00:20:19.820 we know

00:20:20.060 what did

00:20:20.760 happen

00:20:21.100 I think

00:20:21.700 the important

00:20:22.060 thing is

00:20:22.420 to ask

00:20:22.880 what does

00:20:23.900 it mean

00:20:24.320 and for

00:20:24.600 that I think

00:20:24.900 we should

00:20:25.080 bring in

00:20:25.320 our friend

00:20:25.660 Liz Wheeler

00:20:26.300 who is back

00:20:27.140 Liz

00:20:27.500 wonderful to

00:20:28.360 be with you

00:20:28.740 again

00:20:29.000 thank you

00:20:29.760 so much

00:20:30.160 Michael

00:20:30.440 Senator

00:20:30.740 I think

00:20:31.420 a lot

00:20:31.720 of people

00:20:32.040 when they

00:20:32.580 hear the

00:20:33.220 analysis

00:20:33.580 or read

00:20:33.960 the facts

00:20:34.520 see the

00:20:35.780 reality of

00:20:36.280 what actually

00:20:36.640 happened

00:20:37.040 yes they're

00:20:37.760 very grateful

00:20:38.220 that our

00:20:38.600 system of

00:20:39.040 justice worked

00:20:39.680 in this

00:20:40.160 particular instance

00:20:42.340 what happens

00:20:42.540 next what

00:20:43.360 does this

00:20:43.660 mean what

00:20:44.920 do we do

00:20:45.300 moving forward

00:20:46.020 and one of

00:20:46.820 the biggest

00:20:47.100 questions that

00:20:47.840 I've seen

00:20:48.560 from people

00:20:49.680 all over our

00:20:50.200 country of all

00:20:50.620 political stripes

00:20:51.340 is what does

00:20:52.540 it mean when

00:20:53.080 the Department

00:20:53.460 of Justice

00:20:53.920 now says

00:20:54.600 that they are

00:20:55.020 going to

00:20:55.340 potentially conduct

00:20:56.200 a review

00:20:56.720 of this

00:20:57.160 verdict can

00:20:58.040 Kyle Rittenhouse

00:20:58.740 be tried

00:20:59.200 again or

00:20:59.700 what might

00:21:00.200 that mean

00:21:00.600 for him

00:21:01.020 well look

00:21:02.160 the Biden

00:21:03.520 Justice

00:21:03.940 Department

00:21:04.440 it's been

00:21:05.040 fairly striking

00:21:05.860 in less

00:21:07.020 than a year

00:21:07.700 they've managed

00:21:09.380 to exceed

00:21:10.060 the bar

00:21:10.620 for the

00:21:11.020 Obama Justice

00:21:11.740 Department

00:21:12.220 in terms

00:21:12.700 of politicizing

00:21:13.720 the Department

00:21:14.160 of Justice

00:21:14.600 and I think

00:21:15.200 that is an

00:21:15.660 exceedingly

00:21:16.500 troubling

00:21:17.500 development

00:21:18.120 that under

00:21:19.000 Merrick Garland

00:21:19.740 this has been

00:21:20.560 a left-wing

00:21:21.860 Democratic

00:21:22.560 Department

00:21:23.000 of Justice

00:21:23.600 I think

00:21:25.200 if the Department

00:21:25.920 of Justice

00:21:26.440 went after

00:21:26.920 Rittenhouse

00:21:27.420 it would be

00:21:27.780 an absolute

00:21:28.560 abuse of power

00:21:29.420 and a partisan

00:21:30.040 abuse of power

00:21:30.860 there was a trial

00:21:32.220 the jury heard

00:21:33.000 the evidence

00:21:33.440 the worst

00:21:34.400 conduct

00:21:35.160 in the aftermath

00:21:36.680 of that night

00:21:37.780 was from

00:21:39.640 the media

00:21:40.200 and from

00:21:41.620 Democratic

00:21:42.160 politicians

00:21:42.820 who

00:21:44.000 over and

00:21:45.100 over and

00:21:45.500 over again

00:21:46.120 referred to

00:21:46.700 Kyle Rittenhouse

00:21:47.380 as a white

00:21:48.140 supremacist 0.86

00:21:49.080 Senator 0.87

00:21:50.040 the President

00:21:50.560 of the United

00:21:51.020 States

00:21:51.380 referred to

00:21:52.020 Kyle Rittenhouse

00:21:52.700 as a white

00:21:53.120 supremacist

00:21:53.640 he put him

00:21:53.980 in a campaign

00:21:54.480 ad

00:21:54.720 the wild

00:21:56.600 irresponsibility

00:21:58.100 of Democrat

00:21:58.920 after Democrat

00:21:59.800 it was a good

00:22:01.360 political narrative

00:22:02.460 to say this

00:22:03.160 teenager was a

00:22:04.020 white supremacist 0.99

00:22:04.820 the only problem 0.99

00:22:05.700 for their story

00:22:07.320 was there were

00:22:08.540 no facts at the

00:22:09.480 trial that backed

00:22:10.280 it up

00:22:10.720 and

00:22:12.040 they said it

00:22:13.920 anyway

00:22:14.280 they said it

00:22:15.220 deliberately

00:22:15.720 they said it

00:22:16.420 repeatedly

00:22:17.000 and listen

00:22:18.240 this is something

00:22:18.780 I've been saying

00:22:19.360 for some time

00:22:20.140 I think there

00:22:20.680 are a bunch

00:22:21.480 of

00:22:22.920 media outlets

00:22:24.960 and Hollywood

00:22:26.840 celebrities

00:22:27.500 who had better

00:22:29.360 hire some

00:22:30.100 defamation lawyers

00:22:31.160 because Rittenhouse

00:22:32.920 is going to be

00:22:33.460 suing a lot of

00:22:34.200 them

00:22:34.460 and they don't

00:22:35.820 have a defense

00:22:36.540 they don't have

00:22:37.060 a good defense

00:22:37.740 because they're

00:22:38.240 people who are

00:22:38.880 actually in a

00:22:40.120 position to know

00:22:40.960 facts and they

00:22:41.840 decided this

00:22:43.080 17 year old's

00:22:44.160 life doesn't

00:22:45.600 matter to me

00:22:46.520 I'm going to

00:22:47.220 call him a

00:22:47.760 Nazi and who

00:22:49.060 cares what the

00:22:49.700 facts are because

00:22:50.580 it fits my

00:22:51.360 politics

00:22:52.040 well I think

00:22:53.160 that's what a

00:22:53.600 lot of people

00:22:54.040 are wondering

00:22:54.520 now is

00:22:55.260 knowing that

00:22:56.020 we have

00:22:56.300 very strong

00:22:56.820 free speech

00:22:57.340 protections in

00:22:58.020 America

00:22:58.400 we don't have

00:22:59.600 as much of an

00:23:00.740 opportunity for

00:23:01.360 libel suits or

00:23:02.280 slander or anything

00:23:03.420 as they have in

00:23:04.620 other countries

00:23:05.220 does Rittenhouse

00:23:06.540 have a case

00:23:07.200 is he going to

00:23:08.100 become the new

00:23:08.980 owner of CNN

00:23:10.400 or the Washington

00:23:11.160 Post or any

00:23:12.020 of those outlets

00:23:12.640 so I think

00:23:13.960 Rittenhouse has a

00:23:14.700 very strong case

00:23:15.980 I think he will

00:23:17.840 file defamation

00:23:18.820 lawsuits

00:23:19.340 I hope he is

00:23:20.580 retained

00:23:21.200 good and

00:23:22.240 effective lawyers

00:23:22.980 and I think

00:23:23.640 he is going to

00:23:23.940 have to assess

00:23:24.480 I think there

00:23:24.880 are a lot of

00:23:25.500 potential candidates

00:23:26.420 to be defendants

00:23:27.900 for these lawsuits

00:23:28.760 and you know

00:23:30.820 there is a

00:23:31.960 famous

00:23:32.580 Supreme Court

00:23:34.260 decision called

00:23:34.960 New York Times

00:23:35.540 versus Sullivan

00:23:36.200 that concerns

00:23:38.040 the standards

00:23:38.840 for defamation

00:23:39.720 and basically

00:23:40.540 what it says

00:23:41.480 is if someone

00:23:42.280 is a public

00:23:42.940 figure

00:23:43.380 if someone

00:23:44.960 is

00:23:45.600 has injected

00:23:47.340 themselves

00:23:48.020 into the

00:23:48.560 public

00:23:48.860 discussion

00:23:49.460 that there's

00:23:50.800 a higher

00:23:51.260 standard

00:23:51.880 to prove

00:23:52.300 defamation

00:23:52.780 so alright

00:23:53.400 I'm a public

00:23:54.280 figure

00:23:54.540 I'm a US

00:23:54.980 senator

00:23:55.300 I ran for

00:23:55.800 office

00:23:56.060 I've been

00:23:56.400 elected

00:23:56.780 you can have

00:24:00.340 the New York

00:24:00.800 Times can say

00:24:01.620 nasty stuff

00:24:02.440 about me

00:24:02.880 and they do

00:24:03.420 on any given

00:24:04.020 day

00:24:04.240 they probably

00:24:04.760 have today

00:24:05.540 and as a

00:24:07.920 general matter

00:24:08.660 it is very

00:24:09.460 very hard

00:24:10.200 for me to

00:24:11.140 sue them

00:24:11.740 for defamation

00:24:12.700 why

00:24:13.300 because the

00:24:14.300 Supreme Court

00:24:14.800 New York

00:24:15.140 Times

00:24:15.420 versus Sullivan

00:24:16.080 said for me

00:24:16.860 to succeed

00:24:17.580 in a defamation

00:24:18.320 suit

00:24:18.780 I have to

00:24:20.200 prove actual

00:24:21.560 malice

00:24:22.100 it's a standard

00:24:22.800 they invented

00:24:23.440 which is a

00:24:24.120 higher standard

00:24:25.540 that basically

00:24:26.340 they have to

00:24:27.280 to know

00:24:29.120 they're lying

00:24:30.000 or be

00:24:31.480 utterly reckless

00:24:32.940 in saying

00:24:33.540 we don't give a

00:24:34.120 damn if we're

00:24:34.620 lying we're just 0.99

00:24:35.280 going to spread

00:24:35.720 it anyway

00:24:36.160 and so it's

00:24:36.960 it's a pretty

00:24:37.680 high standard

00:24:38.340 the interesting

00:24:39.500 thing about

00:24:40.040 Rittenhouse

00:24:40.540 I think

00:24:41.160 Rittenhouse

00:24:41.680 has a real

00:24:42.240 argument

00:24:42.600 that he was

00:24:43.100 not a public

00:24:43.680 figure

00:24:44.060 he was a

00:24:45.040 teenage kid

00:24:45.920 who the

00:24:46.960 press made

00:24:47.600 a public

00:24:48.020 figure

00:24:48.400 but but

00:24:49.880 when when

00:24:50.480 when you

00:24:50.920 started seeing

00:24:51.980 the media

00:24:52.640 and celebrities

00:24:53.700 and Democrats

00:24:54.480 attacking him

00:24:55.520 he had not

00:24:58.000 done anything

00:24:58.700 to make

00:24:59.300 himself a

00:24:59.860 public figure

00:25:00.380 yes he was

00:25:00.960 a defendant

00:25:01.360 in trial

00:25:01.800 but that

00:25:02.080 happened

00:25:02.340 later

00:25:02.680 and for

00:25:03.600 that matter

00:25:04.060 after the

00:25:04.840 jury verdict

00:25:05.400 after it

00:25:06.180 was clear

00:25:06.700 that there

00:25:07.060 wasn't any

00:25:07.480 evidence at

00:25:08.120 trial he was

00:25:08.540 a white

00:25:08.780 supremacist

00:25:09.420 we saw

00:25:10.640 a bunch

00:25:11.240 of media

00:25:11.860 folks

00:25:12.260 repeating

00:25:13.040 the same

00:25:13.760 lies

00:25:14.260 I mean

00:25:14.580 I gotta

00:25:15.180 say the

00:25:15.580 ones that

00:25:16.040 doubled down

00:25:16.640 after the

00:25:17.200 verdict

00:25:17.520 they really

00:25:19.940 should have

00:25:20.380 put like a

00:25:21.380 giant kick

00:25:22.000 me sign on 0.88

00:25:22.680 their back

00:25:23.240 except instead 0.98

00:25:24.580 of kick me

00:25:25.040 it should have 0.78

00:25:25.420 said sue me

00:25:26.040 because they

00:25:27.020 don't care

00:25:27.700 what the

00:25:28.060 truth is

00:25:28.700 they're going

00:25:29.580 to spread

00:25:30.080 their political

00:25:30.660 message 0.84

00:25:31.260 truth be damned

00:25:32.840 and I very 0.59

00:25:33.940 much hope

00:25:34.580 the people

00:25:36.480 who were

00:25:36.860 willing to

00:25:37.460 spread lies

00:25:38.220 and didn't

00:25:38.860 care about

00:25:39.600 the truth

00:25:40.200 I hope we

00:25:42.000 see some

00:25:42.380 very big

00:25:43.400 damages

00:25:45.840 awarded to

00:25:47.460 Kyle Rittenhouse

00:25:48.220 well I think

00:25:48.800 this idea

00:25:49.480 that Kyle

00:25:50.060 Rittenhouse

00:25:50.360 and I agree

00:25:50.800 Senator

00:25:51.120 I mean it

00:25:51.740 seems that

00:25:52.180 he's going

00:25:52.460 to be in

00:25:52.740 physical danger

00:25:53.400 even his

00:25:53.980 lawyer and

00:25:54.560 his family

00:25:55.040 have mentioned

00:25:55.780 as much

00:25:56.240 but this

00:25:56.780 speaks to

00:25:57.180 the bigger

00:25:57.440 philosophical

00:25:58.040 idea that

00:25:58.620 the left

00:25:59.020 isn't interested

00:25:59.960 in the pursuit

00:26:00.500 of justice

00:26:00.900 they aren't

00:26:01.460 interested in

00:26:02.000 saying listen

00:26:02.380 the jury

00:26:02.760 spoke and

00:26:03.800 even if we

00:26:04.680 disagree with

00:26:05.140 the jury

00:26:05.380 this is how

00:26:05.820 our criminal

00:26:06.140 justice system

00:26:06.780 works

00:26:07.000 no they're

00:26:07.680 interested in

00:26:08.180 destroying this 0.92

00:26:08.880 kid 0.95

00:26:09.380 they're interested

00:26:10.040 in destroying

00:26:10.500 Kyle Rittenhouse

00:26:11.140 his life

00:26:11.700 his reputation

00:26:12.460 his future

00:26:13.440 because they're

00:26:14.340 interested in

00:26:14.920 destroying the

00:26:15.520 institution

00:26:16.000 our criminal

00:26:16.500 justice system

00:26:17.280 this presumption

00:26:18.260 of innocence

00:26:18.720 until proven

00:26:19.320 guilty

00:26:19.640 and they

00:26:20.360 admitted as

00:26:21.100 much on

00:26:21.800 Twitter

00:26:22.100 during the

00:26:23.420 trial itself

00:26:23.940 of course

00:26:24.440 but in the

00:26:25.080 aftermath

00:26:25.500 but kind of

00:26:26.560 staying within

00:26:27.300 this same

00:26:27.820 train

00:26:28.160 I don't think

00:26:28.920 they're going

00:26:29.260 to relent

00:26:30.840 I don't think

00:26:31.480 they're going

00:26:31.760 to give it

00:26:32.140 up

00:26:32.340 I don't think

00:26:33.140 they're going

00:26:33.380 to stop

00:26:33.760 coming after

00:26:34.380 him

00:26:34.600 there's already

00:26:35.380 been talk

00:26:35.940 that they're

00:26:36.500 going to be

00:26:36.900 civil lawsuits

00:26:37.800 against him

00:26:38.580 against Kyle

00:26:39.800 Rittenhouse

00:26:40.340 on behalf of

00:26:41.460 some of the

00:26:41.780 victims

00:26:42.120 from a legal

00:26:42.700 perspective

00:26:43.200 what do you

00:26:43.500 make of that

00:26:44.020 look I think

00:26:45.380 they can bring

00:26:45.920 lawsuits

00:26:46.440 I think the

00:26:46.980 lawsuits are

00:26:47.920 very unlikely

00:26:49.380 to be successful

00:26:50.240 that may not

00:26:51.440 stop people

00:26:52.280 from filing

00:26:52.980 harassment lawsuits

00:26:54.120 to try to

00:26:55.140 proceed

00:26:55.600 you know

00:26:58.020 we've seen

00:26:58.580 we've seen

00:26:58.600 we've seen in

00:26:58.760 some circumstances

00:26:59.740 you think

00:27:00.180 OJ Simpson

00:27:00.800 where there

00:27:01.220 were civil

00:27:01.580 lawsuits

00:27:02.080 that had

00:27:03.660 a lower

00:27:03.940 threshold

00:27:04.540 and a greater

00:27:04.940 chance of

00:27:05.360 success

00:27:05.720 than the

00:27:05.980 criminal

00:27:06.220 trial

00:27:06.620 this is

00:27:07.660 very different

00:27:08.260 I mean

00:27:08.540 OJ Simpson

00:27:09.440 was not

00:27:09.880 an instance

00:27:10.300 of self

00:27:10.920 defense

00:27:11.400 in this

00:27:14.160 case

00:27:14.680 look I think

00:27:15.900 what we have

00:27:16.540 seen

00:27:17.200 in and around

00:27:18.800 and in the

00:27:19.220 aftermath of

00:27:19.880 the Kyle

00:27:20.200 Rittenhouse

00:27:20.660 trial

00:27:21.100 is the

00:27:22.300 perversion

00:27:22.960 and destruction

00:27:23.880 of our

00:27:24.260 justice system

00:27:25.040 from the

00:27:25.400 hard left 0.70

00:27:25.960 and that

00:27:27.680 was true

00:27:28.200 on multiple

00:27:29.080 levels

00:27:29.600 during the

00:27:30.940 trial you

00:27:31.480 saw much

00:27:31.980 of the

00:27:32.180 media

00:27:32.420 you saw

00:27:32.820 many of

00:27:33.160 the left

00:27:33.440 wing

00:27:33.600 commentators

00:27:34.260 demonizing

00:27:35.460 the judge

00:27:35.960 attacking

00:27:36.480 the judge

00:27:37.020 personally

00:27:37.780 trying to

00:27:38.820 defame

00:27:39.260 the judge

00:27:39.880 the judge

00:27:40.900 by the way

00:27:41.440 is trying

00:27:41.860 to enforce

00:27:42.360 the law

00:27:42.740 so for

00:27:43.120 example

00:27:43.700 by the way

00:27:44.380 this

00:27:44.620 prosecution

00:27:45.700 this

00:27:46.980 prosecutor

00:27:47.800 is the

00:27:49.040 gomer pile

00:27:50.240 of screw

00:27:51.560 ups

00:27:51.980 is one

00:27:53.560 of the

00:27:53.780 worst

00:27:54.000 trial lawyers

00:27:54.700 I've ever

00:27:55.140 seen

00:27:55.540 he got

00:27:56.440 repeatedly

00:27:57.020 admonished

00:27:57.640 from the

00:27:58.160 trial judge

00:27:58.680 because he

00:27:59.240 kept doing

00:27:59.700 things wrong

00:28:00.300 he stood

00:28:00.680 up to the

00:28:01.100 jury

00:28:01.340 and said

00:28:01.760 can you

00:28:02.560 believe

00:28:03.200 he

00:28:04.360 exercised

00:28:05.120 his right

00:28:05.600 to be

00:28:06.680 silent

00:28:07.160 well

00:28:07.980 you're

00:28:08.600 allowed

00:28:08.880 to do

00:28:09.200 that

00:28:09.400 the

00:28:09.560 Fifth

00:28:10.460 Amendment

00:28:10.760 protects

00:28:11.280 your

00:28:11.540 right

00:28:11.720 to remain

00:28:12.160 silent

00:28:12.720 the

00:28:14.840 moment

00:28:15.380 that

00:28:15.680 really

00:28:16.260 encapsulates

00:28:17.140 it

00:28:17.320 is when

00:28:17.580 the

00:28:17.740 prosecutor

00:28:18.200 took

00:28:18.860 the

00:28:19.980 AR-15

00:28:20.720 and pointed

00:28:21.600 it at

00:28:22.020 the jury

00:28:22.600 with his

00:28:23.520 finger

00:28:23.960 on the

00:28:24.360 trigger

00:28:24.680 which is

00:28:26.100 horrific

00:28:26.560 and by

00:28:26.980 the way

00:28:27.220 anyone who

00:28:27.780 has the

00:28:28.160 barest

00:28:28.460 modicum

00:28:28.940 of firearms

00:28:29.740 training

00:28:30.220 knows you

00:28:30.680 don't put

00:28:31.000 your finger

00:28:31.380 on the

00:28:31.660 trigger

00:28:31.780 you don't

00:28:32.080 point the

00:28:32.540 gun

00:28:32.800 at anybody

00:28:33.940 unless you

00:28:35.280 are in a

00:28:35.620 situation

00:28:36.220 where you

00:28:36.940 are prepared

00:28:37.500 to and

00:28:37.900 may need

00:28:38.320 to use

00:28:38.720 lethal force

00:28:39.460 and you

00:28:40.300 don't put

00:28:40.680 your finger

00:28:41.100 on the

00:28:41.400 trigger

00:28:41.740 unless you

00:28:42.480 are prepared

00:28:43.020 to it

00:28:43.420 in the

00:28:43.620 instance of

00:28:44.400 pulling the

00:28:45.280 trigger to 0.54

00:28:45.680 fire the

00:28:46.080 gun 0.98

00:28:46.300 and it

00:28:47.040 you know

00:28:48.160 to be

00:28:48.400 honest

00:28:48.740 when he

00:28:49.300 pointed it

00:28:50.000 at the

00:28:50.640 jury

00:28:50.880 it reminded

00:28:51.320 me of

00:28:51.740 Alec Baldwin

00:28:52.640 I mean

00:28:52.940 it was

00:28:53.960 something

00:28:54.460 nobody who

00:28:56.120 was familiar

00:28:56.560 with firearms

00:28:57.300 would possibly

00:28:58.380 do

00:28:58.920 and yet 1.00

00:28:59.980 this clown 0.98

00:29:00.780 was literally 0.99

00:29:01.720 pointing a

00:29:02.520 gun and

00:29:02.880 hoping it

00:29:03.300 was unloaded

00:29:04.540 at the

00:29:05.240 jury

00:29:05.500 but the

00:29:07.340 perversion

00:29:07.860 of justice

00:29:08.600 those on

00:29:10.080 the left

00:29:10.500 and that

00:29:10.760 includes

00:29:11.120 Democrats

00:29:11.580 and media

00:29:12.720 and Hollywood

00:29:13.660 they don't

00:29:14.660 care that

00:29:15.240 the jury

00:29:15.620 heard the

00:29:16.040 evidence

00:29:16.400 and has

00:29:16.700 spoken

00:29:17.040 they don't

00:29:17.940 care about

00:29:18.460 self-defense

00:29:19.100 Stephen Colbert

00:29:19.780 says well

00:29:20.280 if the law

00:29:20.760 says that

00:29:21.240 it's self-defense

00:29:21.960 we should

00:29:22.640 change the

00:29:23.120 law

00:29:23.320 so what

00:29:24.080 they're

00:29:24.320 saying is

00:29:25.080 you should

00:29:26.300 not have

00:29:26.780 the right

00:29:27.260 if someone

00:29:28.280 is violently

00:29:29.240 attacking

00:29:29.840 you 0.81

00:29:30.080 if you

00:29:30.420 are on

00:29:30.960 the ground

00:29:31.540 if a mob

00:29:32.200 is chasing

00:29:32.760 you

00:29:32.960 if they're

00:29:33.260 beating

00:29:33.700 you 1.00

00:29:33.980 if they

00:29:34.540 are threatening

00:29:35.160 to kill 1.00

00:29:35.720 you 1.00

00:29:36.020 you should

00:29:37.300 not have

00:29:37.960 the right

00:29:38.300 to defend

00:29:38.720 yourself

00:29:39.160 that's

00:29:40.500 scary stuff

00:29:41.340 but the

00:29:42.760 perversion

00:29:43.140 of justice

00:29:43.640 is broader

00:29:44.200 than that

00:29:44.780 all of

00:29:46.360 this

00:29:46.660 began

00:29:47.440 because

00:29:49.060 left-wing

00:29:49.540 prosecutors

00:29:50.220 and left-wing

00:29:50.840 politicians

00:29:51.480 refused to

00:29:52.420 enforce the

00:29:53.080 law

00:29:53.360 and protect

00:29:54.220 the community

00:29:54.800 from Kenosha

00:29:55.480 against violent

00:29:56.240 rioters

00:29:57.060 if law

00:29:58.100 enforcement

00:29:58.620 had been

00:29:58.980 allowed to

00:29:59.480 do its

00:29:59.780 job

00:30:00.140 to arrest

00:30:00.960 the rioters

00:30:01.580 to put

00:30:01.960 them in

00:30:02.220 jail

00:30:02.440 to put

00:30:02.780 them in

00:30:03.020 handcuffs

00:30:03.500 you know

00:30:03.900 what

00:30:04.040 Rosenbaum

00:30:04.600 would have

00:30:04.860 still been

00:30:05.200 alive

00:30:05.660 Huber

00:30:06.220 would have

00:30:06.560 still

00:30:06.760 been

00:30:06.940 alive

00:30:07.200 they would

00:30:07.480 have

00:30:07.560 been

00:30:07.680 arrested

00:30:08.080 for being

00:30:08.520 violent 0.77

00:30:08.880 criminals

00:30:09.280 and rioting

00:30:10.020 but they

00:30:10.600 would have

00:30:10.880 still been

00:30:11.260 alive

00:30:11.620 but the

00:30:12.140 politicians

00:30:12.860 created

00:30:13.520 this

00:30:13.900 problem

00:30:14.380 and I

00:30:15.400 gotta say

00:30:15.880 we saw

00:30:16.340 a manifestation

00:30:16.960 of that

00:30:17.680 tragically

00:30:18.680 this week

00:30:19.940 again in

00:30:21.140 Wisconsin

00:30:21.740 with the

00:30:22.780 horrific

00:30:23.220 Christmas

00:30:23.860 parade

00:30:24.780 the 0.99

00:30:25.920 lunatic 0.99

00:30:27.400 who drove

00:30:28.880 the SUV

00:30:29.540 into that

00:30:30.540 parade 0.97

00:30:31.140 killing

00:30:32.680 wounding

00:30:35.360 dozens

00:30:36.400 I think

00:30:36.760 upwards of

00:30:37.320 40 people

00:30:38.300 including

00:30:38.680 young

00:30:39.080 children

00:30:39.660 it was

00:30:40.960 horrific

00:30:41.720 and you

00:30:43.860 notice the

00:30:44.320 media isn't

00:30:44.880 covering

00:30:45.240 what caused

00:30:46.480 it

00:30:46.720 you had an

00:30:47.860 individual

00:30:48.420 number one 0.95

00:30:49.260 a black

00:30:51.280 lives matter

00:30:52.020 supporter

00:30:52.680 a rapper

00:30:53.380 a repeat 0.64

00:30:55.640 felon 0.81

00:30:56.180 who

00:30:58.220 had just

00:30:59.760 recently

00:31:00.640 been arrested

00:31:01.440 for what

00:31:02.180 for running

00:31:03.680 someone over

00:31:04.700 with his car

00:31:05.300 not just

00:31:05.720 someone

00:31:06.100 the mother

00:31:06.520 of his

00:31:06.840 child

00:31:07.360 the same

00:31:08.500 car that he

00:31:09.160 used to

00:31:09.600 commit this

00:31:10.060 crime

00:31:10.400 he had

00:31:11.060 run her 1.00

00:31:11.680 over with 0.99

00:31:12.360 to violently 0.97

00:31:13.280 assault her 0.95

00:31:14.200 he had

00:31:14.820 been arrested

00:31:15.500 and there's a

00:31:17.060 left-wing

00:31:17.640 prosecutor

00:31:18.400 the district

00:31:19.360 attorney in

00:31:19.920 Milwaukee

00:31:20.340 who was

00:31:21.140 elected with

00:31:21.820 George Soros'

00:31:22.600 financial support

00:31:23.640 he's part of

00:31:24.060 the left-wing

00:31:24.540 prosecutors

00:31:25.120 across the

00:31:25.800 country

00:31:26.160 who don't

00:31:27.800 prosecute

00:31:28.760 violent

00:31:29.160 criminals

00:31:29.700 they let

00:31:30.740 this guy

00:31:31.280 go

00:31:31.700 Michael

00:31:32.140 do you

00:31:32.360 know what

00:31:32.560 his bail

00:31:32.880 was that

00:31:33.300 they let

00:31:33.540 him go

00:31:33.820 on

00:31:34.040 so

00:31:35.300 he was

00:31:36.040 it's hard

00:31:37.020 to keep

00:31:37.300 track

00:31:37.580 because he's

00:31:37.940 been arrested

00:31:38.400 so many

00:31:38.840 times in

00:31:39.340 recent years

00:31:40.020 the first

00:31:41.020 time

00:31:41.700 gosh

00:31:42.880 it was

00:31:43.540 either

00:31:43.900 500 or

00:31:44.880 a thousand

00:31:45.440 dollars

00:31:45.900 and I

00:31:46.160 think it

00:31:46.360 was a

00:31:46.580 thousand

00:31:46.820 dollars

00:31:47.120 this time

00:31:47.580 too

00:31:47.860 yeah

00:31:48.580 it was

00:31:48.980 a thousand

00:31:49.640 dollars

00:31:50.100 he was

00:31:50.480 on bail

00:31:51.060 for running

00:31:52.180 over the

00:31:52.860 mother of

00:31:53.420 his child

00:31:54.080 with the

00:31:54.480 car

00:31:54.740 he was

00:31:55.060 out on

00:31:55.560 bail

00:31:55.820 and just

00:31:56.180 a few

00:31:56.520 days later

00:31:57.120 boom

00:31:57.460 he runs

00:31:58.040 over

00:31:58.460 dozens

00:31:59.620 of people

00:32:00.400 and it's

00:32:01.900 the same

00:32:02.500 problem

00:32:03.080 when you

00:32:03.680 have

00:32:04.260 left-wing

00:32:05.460 politicians

00:32:06.200 prosecutors

00:32:07.240 DA's

00:32:08.540 governors

00:32:09.140 mayors

00:32:09.920 that refuse

00:32:10.880 to enforce

00:32:11.940 the law

00:32:12.620 violent

00:32:14.340 criminals

00:32:15.000 target

00:32:15.900 innocent

00:32:17.160 citizens

00:32:17.740 and whether

00:32:18.460 that is

00:32:19.140 burning

00:32:19.740 stores

00:32:20.440 and car

00:32:21.040 lots

00:32:21.320 in

00:32:21.480 Kenosha

00:32:22.040 or

00:32:22.660 or

00:32:23.060 I mean

00:32:23.640 what a

00:32:24.080 nightmare

00:32:24.440 the videos

00:32:25.080 of that 1.00

00:32:25.900 lunatic 0.99

00:32:26.380 driving

00:32:26.820 into that

00:32:27.260 parade

00:32:27.780 is the

00:32:28.360 stuff of

00:32:29.340 nightmares

00:32:29.860 but it's

00:32:31.640 not an

00:32:32.000 accident

00:32:32.360 it's the

00:32:32.900 result

00:32:33.460 of policies

00:32:34.560 destroying

00:32:35.320 our justice

00:32:36.100 system

00:32:36.680 which the

00:32:38.040 radical left

00:32:38.720 is trying

00:32:39.140 to spread

00:32:39.520 across the

00:32:39.980 country

00:32:40.260 and this

00:32:40.820 is the

00:32:41.220 dark side

00:32:42.180 of criminal

00:32:42.860 justice

00:32:43.400 reform

00:32:43.980 which is

00:32:45.140 the euphemism

00:32:45.840 that is used

00:32:46.360 for movements

00:32:46.820 as radical

00:32:47.320 as abolishing

00:32:47.960 the police

00:32:48.380 or abolishing

00:32:48.920 prisons

00:32:49.360 Rashida Tlaib

00:32:50.400 the democrat

00:32:51.040 congressman

00:32:51.700 continues to

00:32:52.760 maintain

00:32:53.180 that we need

00:32:54.120 to empty

00:32:54.960 out federal

00:32:55.560 prisons

00:32:55.960 within 10

00:32:56.460 years

00:32:56.640 empty them

00:32:57.080 all out

00:32:57.420 not leave

00:32:57.860 a single

00:32:58.460 person

00:32:58.880 in them

00:32:59.620 and this

00:33:00.280 is

00:33:00.540 it sounds

00:33:01.400 all very

00:33:01.900 nice

00:33:02.360 and happy

00:33:02.940 and feel

00:33:03.440 good

00:33:03.800 and kumbaya

00:33:04.420 and we're

00:33:04.880 going to be

00:33:05.500 really compassionate

00:33:06.240 to the

00:33:06.580 criminals

00:33:06.880 well here's

00:33:07.720 the flip

00:33:08.080 side

00:33:08.340 is that

00:33:08.700 people

00:33:09.040 who have

00:33:09.580 done

00:33:09.720 very bad

00:33:10.260 things

00:33:10.660 who are

00:33:10.940 not

00:33:11.140 reformed

00:33:11.680 who are

00:33:11.840 going to

00:33:12.000 do

00:33:12.120 really

00:33:12.340 bad

00:33:12.600 things

00:33:12.840 again

00:33:13.100 go out

00:33:13.900 and what

00:33:14.260 do they

00:33:14.460 do

00:33:14.700 surprise

00:33:15.120 surprise

00:33:15.560 they do

00:33:16.360 really bad

00:33:17.040 things

00:33:17.260 this is

00:33:17.560 the practical

00:33:18.380 effect

00:33:18.900 of the

00:33:19.920 extremes

00:33:20.380 of criminal

00:33:20.820 justice

00:33:21.240 reform

00:33:21.660 and hopefully

00:33:22.280 people can

00:33:23.180 learn a lesson

00:33:23.780 from that

00:33:24.360 republicans

00:33:25.320 certainly

00:33:25.680 but hopefully

00:33:26.240 democrats

00:33:26.840 too

00:33:27.080 because I

00:33:27.500 don't think

00:33:27.780 people like

00:33:28.220 to see

00:33:28.560 their

00:33:29.140 communities

00:33:29.780 being torched

00:33:30.580 and looted

00:33:31.860 and attacked

00:33:33.920 by these 0.88

00:33:34.900 criminals 0.92

00:33:35.280 I want 0.81

00:33:35.700 to take

00:33:36.040 a minute

00:33:36.500 and praise

00:33:38.120 the courage

00:33:39.460 of the

00:33:40.360 12 members

00:33:40.900 of the

00:33:41.120 jury

00:33:41.360 look

00:33:42.820 it was

00:33:43.680 not

00:33:43.900 complicated

00:33:44.620 that

00:33:45.980 there was

00:33:47.460 and remains

00:33:48.220 a very

00:33:49.100 real threat

00:33:49.820 to their

00:33:50.160 physical

00:33:50.500 safety

00:33:51.000 and lives

00:33:51.740 left-wing

00:33:52.800 activists

00:33:53.340 were taking

00:33:53.800 their pictures

00:33:54.480 I mean

00:33:54.780 heck

00:33:54.980 MSNBC

00:33:55.660 was banned

00:33:56.500 from the

00:33:56.880 courtroom

00:33:57.420 because

00:33:58.720 the cameraman

00:33:59.640 was allegedly

00:34:00.480 trying to

00:34:01.040 follow the

00:34:01.660 jurors

00:34:02.140 and I

00:34:03.180 promise you

00:34:03.800 those jurors

00:34:04.640 knew

00:34:05.020 if we

00:34:06.580 vote to

00:34:08.420 acquit

00:34:08.920 we may

00:34:10.700 find radicals

00:34:11.700 threatening

00:34:12.020 us and

00:34:12.480 our families

00:34:13.040 and you

00:34:13.940 know it's

00:34:14.260 easy to

00:34:14.840 say well

00:34:15.480 of course

00:34:15.840 they did

00:34:16.180 the right

00:34:16.520 thing

00:34:16.860 look jurors

00:34:17.580 get scared

00:34:18.360 and it

00:34:20.800 was

00:34:21.500 there were

00:34:22.740 a lot of

00:34:23.160 forces that

00:34:23.820 wanted to

00:34:24.360 use the

00:34:24.840 threat of

00:34:25.340 violence

00:34:25.900 to intimidate

00:34:27.920 those jurors

00:34:28.660 to convict

00:34:29.300 that kid

00:34:29.980 facts be 0.92

00:34:30.780 damned

00:34:31.220 we want 1.00

00:34:32.480 a scalp

00:34:33.120 and I

00:34:33.860 just want

00:34:34.260 to praise

00:34:34.860 those 12

00:34:35.560 men and

00:34:35.920 women 1.00

00:34:36.120 for doing

00:34:36.920 the right

00:34:37.600 thing

00:34:38.080 in the

00:34:38.440 face

00:34:38.920 of a

00:34:39.980 real risk

00:34:40.820 of intimidation

00:34:41.600 and violence

00:34:42.120 that is a

00:34:43.180 moment

00:34:43.480 to be proud

00:34:44.960 of our

00:34:45.280 country

00:34:45.660 and our

00:34:45.960 justice

00:34:46.280 system

00:34:46.840 for

00:34:47.760 ordinary

00:34:48.600 Americans

00:34:49.520 doing their

00:34:51.100 duty and

00:34:51.540 following the

00:34:52.000 law

00:34:52.200 absolutely

00:34:53.040 courage

00:34:54.180 and moral

00:34:54.680 clarity

00:34:55.100 are in

00:34:55.640 short supply

00:34:56.160 so it's

00:34:56.600 really edifying

00:34:57.600 and gratifying

00:34:58.200 to see people

00:34:59.060 exercise that

00:35:00.360 all right

00:35:00.640 we've got to go

00:35:01.160 Liz anything

00:35:01.680 before we leave

00:35:02.280 yes we do

00:35:03.300 not have time

00:35:03.740 in this episode

00:35:04.300 today because

00:35:04.740 we had so

00:35:05.060 much good

00:35:05.360 content for

00:35:06.320 a mailbag

00:35:06.980 but for next

00:35:08.000 week's episode

00:35:08.900 go on over to

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00:35:15.520 to ask questions

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00:35:25.720 we don't get

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00:35:27.680 we usually try

00:35:28.180 to get to

00:35:28.660 over on

00:35:29.660 plus

00:35:30.280 Michael

00:35:30.560 excellent

00:35:31.420 and you know

00:35:32.060 there's the

00:35:33.020 plus

00:35:33.860 virtual

00:35:34.920 digital community

00:35:36.040 but we are

00:35:36.560 going to be

00:35:36.880 coming to a

00:35:38.120 school near you

00:35:38.880 we are going

00:35:39.340 on the road

00:35:39.880 in real life

00:35:40.640 the verdict tour

00:35:41.520 will continue

00:35:42.540 with young

00:35:43.100 America's

00:35:43.500 foundation

00:35:43.920 to submit

00:35:45.100 your school

00:35:46.080 to apply

00:35:46.880 to have us

00:35:47.340 come to your

00:35:47.700 school

00:35:47.960 and do a

00:35:48.700 live show

00:35:49.080 and talk to

00:35:49.420 everybody

00:35:49.660 and take

00:35:49.920 your questions

00:35:50.440 go to

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00:35:52.520 slash

00:35:53.260 verdict

00:35:53.660 the deadline

00:35:54.320 to apply

00:35:54.760 is December

00:35:55.340 15th

00:35:55.920 so please

00:35:56.580 get all of

00:35:57.060 those schools

00:35:57.520 in

00:35:57.780 we will go

00:35:58.420 to right-wing

00:35:59.140 schools

00:35:59.600 what are there

00:36:00.360 like three

00:36:00.740 of those

00:36:01.020 we'll go

00:36:01.540 to left-wing

00:36:02.160 schools

00:36:02.560 we will go

00:36:02.980 all over

00:36:03.320 the country

00:36:03.720 so make sure

00:36:04.400 you get

00:36:04.700 your schools

00:36:05.360 in

00:36:05.720 for now

00:36:06.500 that's all

00:36:07.460 I'm Michael

00:36:07.980 this is

00:36:08.340 Verdict

00:36:08.620 with Ted Cruz

00:36:09.200 this episode

00:36:19.160 of Verdict

00:36:19.800 with Ted Cruz

00:36:20.640 is being brought

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00:36:39.540 nation

00:36:39.940 this is an

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00:36:41.840 Guaranteed Human 0.83

00:36:43.840 positive

00:36:45.400 difference

00:36:45.920 in

00:36:46.280 Democratic

00:36:47.040 erme

00:36:47.900 conscience

00:36:48.960 levels

00:36:49.480 laying for

00:36:50.680 since

00:36:51.660 he's

00:36:52.580 doing

00:36:53.420 finance

00:36:54.620 to

00:36:54.720 flooded

00:36:54.960 Studio

00:36:56.900 member

00:36:57.500 coming

00:36:57.600 to

00:36:58.740 table

00:36:59.180 and

00:36:59.780 video

00:37:01.400 s

00:37:03.400 that

00:37:04.440 the

00:37:05.840 the

00:37:06.600 the

00:37:06.760 dane

00:37:07.600 is

00:37:08.440 the

00:37:08.940 one

00:37:09.680 woman 0.99

00:37:09.940 this

00:37:10.640 morning

00:37:11.020 I

00:37:11.560 think

Verdict with Ted Cruz - November 25, 2021

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