Verdict with Ted Cruz - December 11, 2024


Leftists Celebrate an Anti-Capitalist Murderer & Mourn the Acquittal of a Marine Who Saved his Fellow Subway Passengers from a Deranged Violent Criminal


Episode Stats

Length

45 minutes

Words per Minute

161.40248

Word Count

7,396

Sentence Count

484

Misogynist Sentences

10

Hate Speech Sentences

13


Summary


Transcript

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00:00:05.240 Welcome. It is Verdict with Senator Ted Cruz, Ben Ferguson with you.
00:00:09.040 And Senator, there are two big stories and they are just on total opposite ends of the spectrum
00:00:14.200 and how the media is covering it.
00:00:16.060 One of them deals with a anti-capitalist climate activist who's become some sort of hero to the left
00:00:22.760 who has now been charged with murdering the health care CEO.
00:00:26.300 And the other story deals with Daniel Penny who was found not guilty in New York City
00:00:34.620 and yet they're still going after him as an innocent man.
00:00:40.140 Well, tragically, these two stories both show just how twisted and messed up the radical left has gotten.
00:00:49.700 With the first story, we saw this CEO murdered in cold blood, shot on the street,
00:00:56.300 in New York.
00:00:58.000 The alleged murderer is a radical leftist, allegedly, an anti-capitalist, a climate activist.
00:01:06.960 And he is being celebrated by the left.
00:01:11.220 He's been celebrated on TikTok, on Twitter.
00:01:14.940 It is disgusting.
00:01:16.400 It is the reaction of the radical left shows just how they not only normalize but are cheering
00:01:26.120 the murder of anyone they choose that they dislike.
00:01:30.700 And then on the flip side, Daniel Penny.
00:01:33.700 You look at what Daniel Penny did.
00:01:35.180 This is a Marine who defended his nation.
00:01:37.300 And you had a mentally ill homeless guy who was threatening to murder people on the subway.
00:01:42.800 And Daniel Penny was a good Samaritan who intervened and may well have saved the lives of his fellow passengers.
00:01:49.840 And what does Alvin Bragg do?
00:01:51.240 He immediately turns around and tries to prosecute him and put him in jail.
00:01:54.780 These two together really illustrate just how messed up today's radical left is.
00:02:05.100 And it's sad and it's frightening and it needs to change.
00:02:08.840 Yeah.
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00:04:09.760 So let's start, Senator, with this first just, I think, shocking case of this anti-capitalist climate activist
00:04:19.500 who murdered this healthcare CEO and they're actually praising him on the left as the hot assassin,
00:04:28.520 is what was trending earlier on social media.
00:04:31.200 And people that want to send in money for his defense fund and people attacking whoever the worker was at McDonald's, for example,
00:04:39.720 that called the police about a cold-blooded assassin.
00:04:42.620 Well, you look at what happened and, number one, he just walked up and shot the CEO in cold blood.
00:04:51.840 It was horrific.
00:04:52.760 It was deliberate murder.
00:04:54.960 Here's the opening paragraph of the New York Post story when this suspect was arrested.
00:05:00.980 The suspect nabbed in the killing of UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson is an anti-capitalist Ivy League grad
00:05:08.440 who liked online quotes from Unabomber Ted Kaczynski and seethed in a three-page manifesto,
00:05:16.440 these parasites simply had it coming, law enforcement sources have told the Post.
00:05:22.060 This guy is a hard leftist.
00:05:28.800 He was apparently unhappy at the health care, health insurance industry.
00:05:33.660 And by the way, look, that's not an unreasonable position to be unhappy at insurance companies.
00:05:38.660 That's something reasonable people can believe.
00:05:41.600 What reasonable people don't do is murder those people they don't like.
00:05:46.680 And to do it, you know, this suspect is from a wealthy family.
00:05:58.140 He was the valedictorian of his prep school in Baltimore.
00:06:02.260 He went to the University of Pennsylvania.
00:06:05.320 And you look at the early reports,
00:06:09.340 and we're going to learn more about what was happening in this person's life,
00:06:12.320 but, you know, what was reported is high school friends, this is again from the Post,
00:06:17.280 said they were shocked to learn that the one-time prep school valedictorian
00:06:20.560 and stellar University of Penn graduate may have been struggling
00:06:23.840 and even more stunned to learn of his bust tied to the case.
00:06:28.140 And one of the classmates said he was always doing the right thing.
00:06:31.240 He always had a smile on his face.
00:06:34.240 And he was described as a normal frat guy.
00:06:39.100 And you have to wonder if this guy was radicalized in college.
00:06:45.120 I mean, we have seen, you know, one of the quotes,
00:06:48.080 he was just a normal frat guy.
00:06:49.540 He played beer pong.
00:06:50.540 Some girls thought he was hot.
00:06:53.620 That dynamic, look, at some point, you know,
00:06:57.100 there's a video online of him giving his commencement speech in high school,
00:07:01.560 and he comes across as a pretty normal kid in high school.
00:07:04.560 And at some point between then and age 26, he became radicalized.
00:07:11.760 And we don't know at this point if the guy's just nuts.
00:07:17.220 I mean, Ted Kaczynski certainly, by all appearances, was nuts,
00:07:20.280 and maybe that was some of it, or if he's a radical or both.
00:07:26.100 But what we do know is the reaction of people on the left,
00:07:31.920 multiple people on the left, has been just disgusting.
00:07:38.380 And let me give an example.
00:07:40.100 I want you to listen to former Washington Post and New York Times reporter,
00:07:44.360 Taylor Lorenz, describing this murder.
00:07:47.020 And just listen to her.
00:07:49.060 I do believe in the sanctity of life,
00:07:51.120 and I think that's why I felt, along with so many other Americans,
00:07:55.280 joy, unfortunately, you know, because it feels like...
00:07:58.940 Joy? Serious?
00:07:59.420 I mean...
00:08:00.400 Joy in a man's execution?
00:08:02.020 Maybe not joy, but certainly not empathy.
00:08:06.240 Because, again...
00:08:06.720 We're watching the footage.
00:08:07.880 How can this make you joyful?
00:08:10.080 This guy's a husband, he's a father,
00:08:12.120 and he's being young down in the middle of Manhattan.
00:08:15.260 Why is that making you joyful?
00:08:16.460 There are tens of Americans that are being murdered.
00:08:18.160 So are the tens of thousands of Americans,
00:08:21.180 innocent Americans,
00:08:22.420 who died because greedy health insurance executives like this one
00:08:27.900 push policies of denying care to the most vulnerable people.
00:08:31.580 The many millions of Americans that have watched people that I care about
00:08:34.800 suffer and, in some cases, die because of lack of health care.
00:08:38.020 So should they all be killed, then?
00:08:39.460 Should they all be killed, these health care executives?
00:08:41.640 Would that make you even more joyful?
00:08:43.760 No, that would not.
00:08:45.100 I don't know how, by the way, in journalism you can keep your job
00:08:49.780 if you go on national TV and you say something like this,
00:08:53.440 but apparently if you're on the left, you can say this.
00:08:56.160 You can say you found joy in watching a man with children and a wife
00:09:01.380 who has a job walking down the street in New York City be executed,
00:09:05.940 and she's seeing the footage.
00:09:07.060 It's like, well, I mean, you know, it's joy.
00:09:08.600 Okay, maybe it's that total joy.
00:09:09.960 I believe her when she said it was joy.
00:09:11.620 I think that there's many out there, and we're seeing it on social media center,
00:09:15.800 that are cheerful and joyful that this is happening because it's like they've decided
00:09:20.740 that, hey, there can be an enemies list now, and we can murder or advocate for offing
00:09:26.500 any person in any position of power that we don't like,
00:09:30.580 and we're going to normalize it in America, and that is dangerous.
00:09:33.560 Well, let me say, Taylor Lorenz's comments there are sick and twisted,
00:09:40.000 and she should be treated as a deranged lunatic because she is.
00:09:46.220 She is openly celebrating.
00:09:48.060 She feels joy at someone, someone she's never met, being murdered.
00:09:52.840 Why?
00:09:53.240 Because she hates all health insurance companies.
00:09:57.200 She hates, you know what?
00:09:59.220 She's another anti-capitalist nutjob, but not just nutjob, who feels joy at the murder
00:10:07.480 of her political enemies.
00:10:08.840 Listen, Taylor Lorenz, my understanding is she was raised in enormous wealth,
00:10:13.040 an enormous privilege, and there's nothing worse than rich liberals who are eager.
00:10:18.120 We saw the same reaction when Donald Trump was almost assassinated, when he was shot,
00:10:23.500 and people on the left bemoaning that the assassin did not kill Donald Trump.
00:10:32.180 That is, and Taylor Lorenz is not some fringe journalist.
00:10:37.360 She was a reporter both for the Washington Post and the New York Times,
00:10:41.120 and that approach is typical.
00:10:42.880 I want you to listen now to a University of Pennsylvania professor,
00:10:46.460 Julia Alexeyeva, talking about this assassination.
00:10:53.500 That is her playing that famous song, and above her it says,
00:11:10.380 have never been prouder to be a professor at the University of Pennsylvania.
00:11:14.920 Now, referring to the fact that he, the shooter, this man of madness,
00:11:23.020 and the executioner, went to the University of Pennsylvania.
00:11:27.100 So, let me be clear, and I don't know Professor Alexeyeva, but Penn should fire her.
00:11:33.880 She is playing, that is a song from Les Mis, celebrating the French Revolution.
00:11:38.140 Apparently, the good professor wants the guillotine in the streets, wants to murder more CEOs.
00:11:44.720 She's cheering.
00:11:45.880 She's proud.
00:11:47.240 My university graduated a murderer, and she's celebrating.
00:11:52.120 This person should not be teaching young people.
00:11:54.540 This professor should be fired, because this is the kind of radical view.
00:12:00.400 And look, I also want to play a couple of folks from TikTok,
00:12:04.960 and this is emblematic of how leftists are not only normalizing this,
00:12:13.240 but you know who they're angry at?
00:12:14.760 They're furious that a McDonald's employee saw this murderer and turned him in.
00:12:20.700 And, okay, here is one TikToker, a transgender influencer, apparently, on TikTok,
00:12:28.520 and we'll leave the name off, but play what they said on TikTok.
00:12:32.300 They caught the guy that killed the UHC CEO.
00:12:35.680 For such a professional hit, it's kind of weird that the gunman didn't leave the U.S.
00:12:40.660 The guy that reported it was a McDonald's worker.
00:12:43.860 I would never advocate for violence on my page,
00:12:46.820 but it would be pretty funny if we beat the s*** out of him,
00:12:51.260 and then when he went to the hospital that if he was out of network
00:12:54.780 and had to pay a huge bill, I think that would be funny.
00:12:57.860 I'm not advocating for it, but it would bring a smile to my face.
00:13:04.560 Okay, you are advocating for it.
00:13:07.340 She also rolled her eyes when she said,
00:13:09.000 I would never advocate for violence on my page.
00:13:11.940 She did a sarcastic eye roll for people that can't see what we were watching.
00:13:17.540 And you know what?
00:13:20.300 That TikTok leftist is feeling the same joy Taylor Lorenz is,
00:13:26.880 and is saying, wouldn't it be wonderful if someone beat up this McDonald's employee?
00:13:32.820 You want to talk about catching a murderer in a normal, sane time?
00:13:38.260 And listen, let's be clear.
00:13:39.680 You and I, we disagree with people on the radical left,
00:13:42.720 but nobody should be subject to political violence,
00:13:46.660 whether I agree with you or don't agree with you.
00:13:49.680 Murder is wrong, period, the end.
00:13:53.020 And all right, play another TikToker to give a sense of just,
00:13:58.520 for the left, listen, this is the cultural rot of being told,
00:14:04.120 if someone is on the other side,
00:14:07.700 they are not human,
00:14:08.540 they do not count,
00:14:10.080 and violence is perfectly acceptable.
00:14:11.920 Play this other TikToker.
00:14:13.620 Okay, so they've arrested our hot CEO assassin.
00:14:17.220 Turns out his name's Luigi.
00:14:19.420 He's 26 years old.
00:14:21.160 He's an Ivy League grad.
00:14:23.540 Did his undergrad and master's at Penn in computer science.
00:14:28.480 That's my type.
00:14:29.380 He's a little young for me,
00:14:30.180 but baby, what is you doing getting caught eating at McDonald's
00:14:37.300 and curse you, McDonald's employee, for turning him in.
00:14:42.160 But I get it.
00:14:43.020 They upped the reward to $60,000.
00:14:45.580 Maybe you needed that money.
00:14:46.900 I never understood those crazy women that wrote inmates in jail,
00:14:51.540 but I could see myself doing that.
00:14:54.180 I mean, this is an older lady and she refers to him as the hot assassin
00:15:00.440 and then says, curse you, McDonald's employee, for turning him in,
00:15:04.620 but maybe you need the $60,000 and that's why he did it.
00:15:07.040 No, maybe the McDonald's employees actually just did the right thing
00:15:10.120 because they saw an assassin sitting in the McDonald's
00:15:13.500 and they said, hey, I want to make sure this guy doesn't take out another innocent person.
00:15:17.900 Well, and notice, you know, she says,
00:15:21.080 what is you doing, not committing murder, but getting caught?
00:15:25.660 Like, how dare you get caught?
00:15:27.880 I don't want you to get caught.
00:15:29.400 She's like, I want to write love letters to this murderer.
00:15:32.580 And hot assassin was trending on Twitter today.
00:15:37.600 And the left is glamorizing.
00:15:39.540 And understand, there is a reason for this.
00:15:42.000 And this is something you and I have talked about a lot,
00:15:44.360 which is, this is cultural Marxism.
00:15:47.540 This is the fruits of cultural Marxism.
00:15:49.920 These are the same people that are cheering on Hamas and Hezbollah
00:15:53.800 and cheering on the murderers and rapists of Hamas
00:15:58.180 and are cheering on October 7th that are on college campuses
00:16:01.980 waving signs saying, we love Hamas, we support Hamas.
00:16:06.080 These are the same radicals who are screaming at Jewish students,
00:16:10.420 as they did at the University of Washington,
00:16:12.100 go back to the gas chambers and the ovens.
00:16:15.860 This is, and we've talked about it.
00:16:18.520 My most recent book, Unwoke, How to Defeat Cultural Marxism in America,
00:16:23.600 it traces the growth of cultural Marxism that started in the universities.
00:16:30.040 And the universities are training young people that the basic Marxist dialectic,
00:16:36.400 dialectic, the dichotomy, is between the oppressors and the victims.
00:16:43.260 And the oppressors and victims, in this case,
00:16:46.760 Karl Marx's original Communist Manifesto,
00:16:49.300 the oppressors were the capitalists.
00:16:51.200 The oppressors were the owners of capital.
00:16:53.480 And the workers were the victims.
00:16:56.280 And what Marxists are taught is that the so-called oppressors are evil and bad
00:17:02.520 and the so-called victims are good and noble.
00:17:05.140 And Marxists advocate the violent revolution of the so-called victims
00:17:10.280 against the so-called oppressors.
00:17:11.740 And that violent revolution almost invariably involves murder.
00:17:17.420 However, there is a reason that the cultural Marxists on campus are celebrating
00:17:26.600 Hamas, who murdered 1,200 Israelis, who raped women and little girls.
00:17:32.020 And to be clear, like Black Lives Matter,
00:17:33.920 the Chicago chapter of Black Lives Matter, right after October 7th,
00:17:37.300 tweeted out an image,
00:17:38.700 we support Palestine.
00:17:40.600 And it was an image of a paraglider.
00:17:42.500 And to be clear, this was not,
00:17:44.720 they were not engaging in a debate about a two-state solution in the Middle East.
00:17:50.800 That one can, reasonable people can disagree on that question.
00:17:54.980 They were explicitly, the paragliders are what the Hamas terrorist rode,
00:17:59.900 flew in on, to murder predominantly young people,
00:18:04.220 young Jewish people at the music festival outside.
00:18:06.900 They gunned them down.
00:18:07.920 I have met repeatedly with families of people who were raped,
00:18:11.380 people who were murdered on October 7th.
00:18:13.300 It was grotesque.
00:18:14.420 It was evil.
00:18:15.160 And Black Lives Matter was saying,
00:18:17.400 you're our people.
00:18:18.220 We stand with you.
00:18:19.760 And that is the doctrine of cultural Marxism
00:18:24.240 that has infested our universities for years after years after years.
00:18:29.660 You know, this professor at Penn that is celebrating,
00:18:32.400 she's celebrating because she wants
00:18:34.800 the violent overthrow of the so-called oppressors.
00:18:38.720 And you know what?
00:18:39.980 Taylor Lorenz has been taught the same nonsense.
00:18:42.180 And the problem is cultural Marxism.
00:18:44.160 It has spread from the universities to K-12 education,
00:18:47.700 to journalism,
00:18:48.640 to big business,
00:18:49.720 to big tech,
00:18:50.420 to entertainment.
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00:18:52.100 it has spread like a cancer.
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00:19:37.860 this was another one.
00:19:38.840 And I saw it earlier today.
00:19:40.380 And,
00:19:40.540 and I think it goes to even a broader conversation
00:19:43.560 about where we are in this country
00:19:46.960 when it comes to the left,
00:19:48.260 where it seems that they want to normalize
00:19:51.960 the execution of anyone they disagree with.
00:19:55.200 We've seen that with Donald Trump.
00:19:57.020 Now,
00:19:57.620 there's this picture that was put out,
00:19:59.760 well put together,
00:20:00.480 says health insurance CEO compensation.
00:20:03.120 Has a CEO of Sigma,
00:20:04.340 making 21 million in his name.
00:20:06.460 WellCare,
00:20:07.140 the salary,
00:20:07.980 23.5 million in the name.
00:20:09.860 Humana,
00:20:10.360 16.3 million.
00:20:11.800 The list goes on and on.
00:20:13.120 The total list is eight different CEOs.
00:20:15.520 CBS Health,
00:20:16.700 the CEO is a great example on this list.
00:20:18.680 And all of their pictures are in color.
00:20:22.120 And then the eighth person on the list,
00:20:25.280 at the bottom right is UnitedHealthcare,
00:20:27.440 Brian Thompson,
00:20:28.760 10.2 million.
00:20:30.340 And his picture is in black and white.
00:20:33.020 It is very clear that his picture is in black and white for the,
00:20:37.360 hey,
00:20:37.700 he has been killed.
00:20:38.980 We've taken him out.
00:20:39.960 The rest are still living there in color.
00:20:43.600 And this started to go out on social media left and right.
00:20:47.260 And it's obviously the people that want this out there.
00:20:50.360 It's like,
00:20:50.680 here's our kill list.
00:20:51.800 We started with Brian Thompson.
00:20:54.020 Now,
00:20:54.560 here's all the other ones that are still alive,
00:20:56.500 making even more money than he's making.
00:20:59.040 Look,
00:20:59.540 it is twisted.
00:21:00.760 It is sick.
00:21:01.600 We're getting reports of certainly healthcare CEOs,
00:21:05.840 but CEOs across the country who are upping their expenditures in,
00:21:09.560 in the personal security,
00:21:10.840 because the left is,
00:21:13.420 is reveling in this sort of murder.
00:21:16.880 And let me be clear.
00:21:17.800 Murder is wrong.
00:21:19.300 Period.
00:21:19.920 The end,
00:21:20.560 regardless of your politics,
00:21:22.020 regardless of whether I agree with you or disagree with you,
00:21:25.980 nobody should be subject to violence.
00:21:29.220 And,
00:21:29.240 and yet let's go to some of our favorite people,
00:21:32.680 the always charming and wonderful and reasonable host to the view.
00:21:37.660 They were,
00:21:38.900 were very unhappy.
00:21:39.860 They were very unhappy today because I called out the extremist left for
00:21:44.920 their violence and,
00:21:46.460 and,
00:21:46.700 and their willingness to,
00:21:48.780 to engage in assassinations and to try to assassinate,
00:21:52.280 to assassinate this CEO,
00:21:54.140 to try to assassinate Donald Trump and,
00:21:56.200 and give a listen to Joy Behar,
00:21:57.580 are just,
00:21:58.500 just,
00:21:58.940 just whining about,
00:22:00.620 oh,
00:22:00.980 don't,
00:22:01.340 don't blame us leftists for this,
00:22:03.420 even though we're the ones celebrating.
00:22:05.740 Of course,
00:22:06.620 Ted Cruz has to politicize it and say that it's a left wing thing.
00:22:10.960 I mean,
00:22:11.300 the,
00:22:11.540 the,
00:22:11.940 I think it was the second attempted assassination on Trump was a kid who was a registered Republican who also voted for Biden and had a lot of left wing stuff on his social media.
00:22:23.100 But I don't think that this is,
00:22:24.800 as you say,
00:22:25.540 it's not a political issue.
00:22:27.420 And why does Ted Cruz insist on dividing Americans even further is my question to him.
00:22:35.020 Senator,
00:22:35.660 you listen to the view and,
00:22:37.280 and I mean,
00:22:37.700 you want to talk about stretches.
00:22:39.140 So now you're somehow politicizing people that were trying to assassinate and actually shot Donald Trump and you're calling out the rhetoric.
00:22:50.880 And now they say somehow not only is orange man bad,
00:22:54.180 but Ted Cruz is bad as well.
00:22:56.700 Well,
00:22:57.220 and,
00:22:57.420 and look,
00:22:57.920 the,
00:22:58.080 you know,
00:22:58.620 the,
00:22:58.860 the hosts of the view are just denying reality.
00:23:01.740 Joy,
00:23:01.980 every word that just came out of joy's mouth is complete nonsense is,
00:23:05.660 is babbling idiocy.
00:23:07.740 And,
00:23:07.760 and listen,
00:23:08.420 I got to say,
00:23:08.880 I,
00:23:09.040 I went on,
00:23:09.780 on the view for,
00:23:11.060 for my second book and my third book.
00:23:14.000 And,
00:23:14.560 and,
00:23:15.040 and when I went on for,
00:23:16.460 for,
00:23:16.660 for my third book,
00:23:18.000 uh,
00:23:18.320 justice corrupted how the left has weaponized our legal system.
00:23:21.520 Uh,
00:23:22.420 you know,
00:23:22.700 the view came after me like,
00:23:24.980 like,
00:23:25.320 like,
00:23:25.620 like vultures descending from the sky trying to consume my liver.
00:23:30.460 And they were screaming at me from multiple directions.
00:23:33.100 Uh,
00:23:33.500 we actually had protesters stand up in the middle of the,
00:23:35.800 the,
00:23:36.100 the show and,
00:23:36.920 and disrupt the show,
00:23:38.020 which had apparently never happened before,
00:23:40.020 but,
00:23:40.700 but they're screaming at me.
00:23:41.700 Well,
00:23:41.900 aren't right wingers all violent protesters and you guys,
00:23:46.860 it was all about January 6th and you're violent,
00:23:48.720 you're violent,
00:23:49.200 you're violent.
00:23:50.400 Ironically,
00:23:51.000 it,
00:23:51.240 it,
00:23:51.540 it,
00:23:51.980 that's what she was saying.
00:23:53.420 And I,
00:23:53.600 and it wasn't joy.
00:23:54.360 Joy was not on that,
00:23:55.340 on that show,
00:23:56.140 but,
00:23:56.700 but I turned to them and said,
00:23:58.100 look,
00:23:58.540 violence is wrong.
00:23:59.960 It's wrong.
00:24:00.620 Whether I agree with you or disagree with you,
00:24:02.400 anyone who committed an act of violence,
00:24:03.880 anyone who has assaulted a police officer,
00:24:05.620 they should be prosecuted.
00:24:07.680 Speech,
00:24:08.300 peaceful speech is protected by the constitution.
00:24:10.760 But,
00:24:11.320 but I also said,
00:24:12.520 you want to talk about violence?
00:24:13.940 I'm willing to say,
00:24:15.040 put anyone in jail who commits active violence.
00:24:16.800 Are you?
00:24:17.400 And I,
00:24:18.160 and I,
00:24:18.260 I asked on that show,
00:24:19.820 what about the Black Lives Matter and Antifa riots all over the country in 2020 that burned American cities across the country?
00:24:27.200 And Whoopi Goldberg looked at me and said,
00:24:29.460 I don't know what a,
00:24:30.220 what an Antifa riot is.
00:24:31.920 Like,
00:24:32.200 like they're literally living in an alternative reality where they just,
00:24:38.540 they,
00:24:38.960 they,
00:24:39.260 they just erase the embrace of violence on the left.
00:24:43.240 You know,
00:24:44.140 Whoopi,
00:24:44.480 maybe you remember Kamala Harris raising money to bail out of jail,
00:24:49.940 the violent rioters who burned Minneapolis and,
00:24:55.500 and looted stores and,
00:24:57.060 and,
00:24:57.240 and violently assaulted people.
00:24:58.920 This is who the radical left cheers for celebrates,
00:25:04.100 you know,
00:25:04.640 joy ought to ask herself,
00:25:06.220 why does fellow leftist Taylor Lorenz find joy in this cold blooded murder?
00:25:13.420 And,
00:25:14.000 and,
00:25:14.400 you know,
00:25:15.780 she,
00:25:15.980 she's not going to answer that.
00:25:16.980 By the way,
00:25:17.360 I will say the irony,
00:25:18.940 the fourth book I wrote on woke about cultural Marxism.
00:25:23.440 The view refused to have me on.
00:25:25.120 They'd had me on twice.
00:25:26.460 It apparently had not gone well to them because they're used to just
00:25:29.800 screaming one point of view and not,
00:25:31.900 not having to face disagreement.
00:25:34.000 And so they said,
00:25:34.780 Nope,
00:25:35.020 Nope,
00:25:35.220 sorry.
00:25:35.520 You're no longer welcome in the show.
00:25:36.720 We,
00:25:36.920 we don't want anything other than our one-sided view of,
00:25:40.800 of,
00:25:41.060 of,
00:25:41.320 of propaganda that we're,
00:25:43.420 that we're spewing.
00:25:44.180 And that's what they continue to do.
00:25:45.900 No doubt about it.
00:25:46.820 And if you look at this story,
00:25:47.960 we just talked about,
00:25:48.820 and you compare it and contrast it to how the media is handling the Daniel
00:25:52.200 Penny story of him being not found,
00:25:54.760 not guilty in that subway chokehold trial.
00:25:57.820 You can see just how much they push a narrative,
00:26:01.020 depending on who you are,
00:26:02.720 you're a veteran and,
00:26:03.640 and,
00:26:03.900 and helping people from a violent individual.
00:26:05.780 Oh,
00:26:06.080 you're a bad person.
00:26:07.080 I want to break that down for you in just a moment as well.
00:26:09.680 But first,
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00:27:40.080 Senator,
00:27:41.520 let's move to this other story.
00:27:43.000 And it involves Daniel Penney.
00:27:44.540 And thank goodness he was found not guilty.
00:27:47.040 Many people,
00:27:47.920 if you don't remember the story,
00:27:49.880 he was an individual that was protecting innocent people from a violent individual on the subway,
00:27:57.640 on the train in New York.
00:27:59.360 And he did it because he feared for not only his life,
00:28:04.220 but for others that he was threatening.
00:28:06.500 And Daniel Penney did what I would hope that many men would do,
00:28:12.540 which is to stand in and to help people that are in need,
00:28:16.280 especially if there's someone that is violent.
00:28:18.100 But the media immediately flipped this into a,
00:28:22.540 oh,
00:28:22.680 white guy chokehold on an African-American.
00:28:25.960 This was right in the middle of a lot of the police brutality issues that we were dealing with in this country
00:28:30.360 and the stories.
00:28:31.500 And this was a perfect narrative.
00:28:32.800 And they went after this guy.
00:28:34.360 And they also found out,
00:28:35.360 oh,
00:28:35.440 he's a veteran.
00:28:36.600 Well,
00:28:36.960 a lot in the media don't like veterans.
00:28:38.720 And so it was a double whammy.
00:28:40.500 And they wanted to put this guy in jail for a very long time.
00:28:44.620 Now,
00:28:44.840 thank goodness on the,
00:28:46.220 some on the jury said,
00:28:47.620 we're not doing this.
00:28:49.120 This was a victory.
00:28:50.160 And yet they're still attacking him,
00:28:52.300 even though now he's been found innocent.
00:28:55.880 Well,
00:28:56.000 thank God that Daniel Penney was acquitted,
00:28:58.700 found not guilty by a jury of his peers,
00:29:00.920 not guilty of criminally negligent homicide.
00:29:03.460 As you noted,
00:29:04.280 Daniel Penney is a 26 year old Marine veteran.
00:29:08.160 He's an architecture student.
00:29:09.780 And,
00:29:10.380 and he was charged by Alvin Bragg with both manslaughter,
00:29:14.620 and criminally negligent homicide for the death of Jordan Neely.
00:29:22.460 Jordan Neely was a 30 year old homeless man who had schizophrenia,
00:29:26.020 who barged into a train,
00:29:28.540 was shouting death threats.
00:29:29.860 And he was high on,
00:29:31.980 on a synthetic marijuana known as,
00:29:34.360 as K2.
00:29:35.820 Now,
00:29:36.220 now it really is striking.
00:29:37.840 The murderer of the United healthcare CEO was a 26 year old.
00:29:42.620 And the left is celebrating that 26 year old murderer.
00:29:46.620 In this instance,
00:29:48.200 Penney is not a murderer.
00:29:50.420 It is not murder.
00:29:51.660 Self-defense is not murder.
00:29:54.560 Defending yourself.
00:29:55.880 If,
00:29:56.300 if,
00:29:56.540 if you have a reasonable fear for your safety or the safety of others,
00:30:01.540 you have a right to defend yourself.
00:30:03.020 That is not murder.
00:30:04.800 Uh,
00:30:05.040 and,
00:30:05.480 and that's what the jury concluded.
00:30:07.320 And,
00:30:07.840 and this case should never have been brought.
00:30:11.120 Uh,
00:30:11.440 if you look at the facts,
00:30:13.080 uh,
00:30:14.140 the,
00:30:14.320 the,
00:30:14.500 the,
00:30:14.640 the facts of,
00:30:15.680 of,
00:30:15.900 of what happened here,
00:30:17.240 uh,
00:30:18.100 were horrific.
00:30:20.120 And,
00:30:20.760 and so,
00:30:22.080 so the incident happened on May 1st,
00:30:23.940 2023.
00:30:24.560 And,
00:30:25.160 and,
00:30:25.380 and,
00:30:25.520 and Neely,
00:30:26.320 the,
00:30:26.480 the,
00:30:26.680 uh,
00:30:27.440 barged onto an F train in Manhattan,
00:30:30.560 screaming death threats.
00:30:32.440 Um,
00:30:33.060 the,
00:30:33.400 the other passengers on the train afterwards said that they were thankful for Penny's intervention.
00:30:39.380 Neely had a long criminal record.
00:30:42.000 He had an active arrest warrant.
00:30:44.640 He had a history of psychosis and he was high on K2,
00:30:48.260 which is a synthetic form of marijuana.
00:30:50.240 Um,
00:30:51.940 if you look at what has happened in,
00:30:54.900 in New York with the violence and violence on subways,
00:30:57.820 just three days earlier,
00:31:00.720 a passenger standing on a subway had been stabbed with an ice pick on a J train,
00:31:07.260 uh,
00:31:08.480 about a month before a PBS reporter got sucker punched on a number four train.
00:31:15.880 A week before that,
00:31:17.660 an individual was shoved and hit the side of a moving R train.
00:31:24.680 That individual survived.
00:31:26.700 Uh,
00:31:27.260 and,
00:31:27.580 and this pattern,
00:31:28.740 uh,
00:31:29.880 you,
00:31:30.040 you,
00:31:30.280 you know,
00:31:30.740 one of the,
00:31:31.180 one of the witnesses,
00:31:32.560 uh,
00:31:33.840 on the train testified that Neely shouted someone would quote die that day.
00:31:40.340 And she went on to say,
00:31:42.280 quote,
00:31:42.500 I got scared by the tone that he was saying it.
00:31:44.980 I've seen situations,
00:31:46.480 but not like that.
00:31:48.160 And,
00:31:48.640 and,
00:31:48.840 and Penny gave an interview afterwards.
00:31:53.360 And,
00:31:53.880 and,
00:31:54.020 and,
00:31:54.220 and here's what Penny said.
00:31:55.400 He said,
00:31:56.180 said about,
00:31:57.040 uh,
00:31:57.420 about this,
00:31:58.280 this deranged homeless man,
00:32:00.280 quote,
00:32:00.720 he was talking gibberish,
00:32:02.120 but these guys are pushing people in front of trains and stuff.
00:32:05.320 There were more than 20 subway shoves in the year before Penny's encounter with Neely.
00:32:14.780 This case should never,
00:32:17.220 ever,
00:32:18.120 ever have been brought.
00:32:20.100 But Alvin Bragg is a radical leftist.
00:32:23.800 And so Alvin Bragg is a cultural Marxist.
00:32:27.840 He believes he is in abusing the justice system to target his enemies.
00:32:33.840 And for the cultural Marxists,
00:32:36.660 Penny is the oppressor because of his race,
00:32:40.140 because he's a white man and he's a veteran.
00:32:42.340 He is the oppressor.
00:32:44.020 And,
00:32:44.520 and Neely is the victim again,
00:32:47.000 because of his race.
00:32:48.120 Nevermind.
00:32:48.860 They don't care that he's a mentally ill criminal threatening to murder people.
00:32:52.960 That,
00:32:53.240 that,
00:32:53.360 that is his,
00:32:55.880 these are people that,
00:32:57.540 that,
00:32:58.120 you know,
00:32:58.680 presumably would have celebrated if Penny had been murdered,
00:33:01.920 because once they assign you to these two groups,
00:33:05.540 oppressor,
00:33:06.320 always,
00:33:06.900 always wrong.
00:33:07.860 Victim,
00:33:08.360 always,
00:33:08.880 always,
00:33:09.360 always right.
00:33:10.280 That is the radical ideology.
00:33:12.720 And,
00:33:13.140 and again,
00:33:14.420 the,
00:33:14.620 the,
00:33:14.800 the,
00:33:15.060 the reaction,
00:33:16.420 uh,
00:33:17.200 of the left.
00:33:18.240 It is precisely the opposite,
00:33:21.700 uh,
00:33:23.100 of the reaction.
00:33:24.400 And,
00:33:24.680 and by the way,
00:33:25.200 I want to point out,
00:33:26.400 there's a reason I'm using Daniel Penny's name.
00:33:29.020 He was innocent.
00:33:30.060 He was found not guilty by a jury.
00:33:32.840 There's a reason you and I have not used the name of the murderer who murdered the United
00:33:39.260 Healthcare CEO.
00:33:40.540 I try very hard not to repeat the names of murderers.
00:33:43.800 Many times these people want to be famous.
00:33:45.820 They want to be remembered.
00:33:46.940 And so I,
00:33:47.580 I,
00:33:47.800 I think as far as I'm concerned,
00:33:50.140 this,
00:33:50.560 this guy's name should be forgotten for all time,
00:33:53.540 but you know what?
00:33:54.500 The leftists are going to celebrate this,
00:33:56.540 celebrate him because that's their ideology.
00:33:59.520 Yeah,
00:34:00.020 no doubt about it.
00:34:01.100 This is one of those stories where I hope that people will stand up and say,
00:34:05.420 this is a hero and be proud to say he is a hero,
00:34:09.580 uh,
00:34:10.240 because that's exactly what he is.
00:34:12.260 Uh,
00:34:12.740 and we should celebrate heroes and we should not have to worry that when men,
00:34:16.920 men need to stand up and act to protect and defend people,
00:34:19.760 uh,
00:34:20.400 that they're going to do it and not have to worry about thinking twice because of
00:34:24.060 what just happened to this individual.
00:34:25.360 It's also a really sad commentary about New York and New York city and the
00:34:29.500 activist prosecutors there.
00:34:30.840 And I finally,
00:34:31.620 I want to get your thought on that with the prosecutors that went after him.
00:34:34.820 Should there be any scenario where he can in essence say,
00:34:40.280 Hey,
00:34:40.540 you guys didn't treat me the right way.
00:34:42.780 Look,
00:34:43.360 look,
00:34:43.600 I could easily see a lawsuit following from this.
00:34:47.280 I hope Alvin Bragg is thrown out of office.
00:34:49.960 I hope he is removed from office.
00:34:52.540 The governor has the authority to do that.
00:34:54.280 Of course,
00:34:54.700 the governor,
00:34:55.260 Kathy,
00:34:55.620 Kathy Hochul is a,
00:34:56.660 a leftist herself,
00:34:58.260 a cultural Marxist herself.
00:34:59.640 She's someone who,
00:35:00.460 by the way,
00:35:01.240 said,
00:35:01.660 if you're a Republican,
00:35:02.520 get the hell out of my state,
00:35:03.700 move to Florida,
00:35:04.320 you don't belong in New York.
00:35:05.900 That is their ideology.
00:35:07.460 If you are the enemy,
00:35:08.900 they are opposed to you.
00:35:10.320 I got to say,
00:35:10.960 I want you to listen to Daniel Penny and,
00:35:12.520 and him talking about how he was trying to protect other people's lives.
00:35:17.220 He was acting as,
00:35:18.540 as a good Samaritan acting as a hero,
00:35:21.200 intervening,
00:35:21.980 risking his own life.
00:35:23.100 Look,
00:35:23.320 encountering a mentally ill,
00:35:25.580 potentially violent person,
00:35:28.400 threatening violence is,
00:35:29.540 is a dangerous thing to do.
00:35:30.740 Here's what Daniel Penny had to say.
00:35:32.380 The guilt I would have felt if someone did get hurt,
00:35:36.000 if,
00:35:36.860 if he did do what he was threatening to do,
00:35:40.720 would never be able to live with myself.
00:35:43.060 And I'll,
00:35:43.800 I'll take a million court appearances and people calling me names and people hating me just to,
00:35:51.280 keep one of those people from getting hurt or killed.
00:35:55.040 Look,
00:35:55.520 that,
00:35:55.620 that,
00:35:56.300 that,
00:35:56.460 that is,
00:35:57.220 yes,
00:35:57.640 look,
00:35:58.240 and,
00:35:58.600 and,
00:35:58.900 of course,
00:36:00.200 how is the left reacting?
00:36:02.040 Well,
00:36:02.100 I want you to listen to MSNBC,
00:36:03.900 just,
00:36:05.080 just,
00:36:05.400 just expressing misery that,
00:36:08.580 that,
00:36:08.740 that,
00:36:09.020 that Daniel Penny was,
00:36:10.640 was acquitted.
00:36:11.420 And,
00:36:11.960 and understand,
00:36:12.780 by the way,
00:36:13.300 initially,
00:36:13.880 so,
00:36:14.260 so there were two charges,
00:36:15.500 uh,
00:36:16.380 that were brought.
00:36:17.080 Uh,
00:36:17.860 so Alvin Bragg brought two charges.
00:36:20.300 One charge,
00:36:21.320 uh,
00:36:22.100 was for manslaughter.
00:36:23.040 And the second charge was for,
00:36:25.240 uh,
00:36:26.640 criminally,
00:36:27.400 uh,
00:36:28.140 criminally,
00:36:28.600 criminally negligent homicide.
00:36:30.540 The jury deadlocked,
00:36:32.660 uh,
00:36:33.520 on,
00:36:33.900 on the,
00:36:34.340 on the second degree manslaughter,
00:36:35.940 uh,
00:36:36.720 claim,
00:36:37.060 which was the more serious charge.
00:36:38.560 So,
00:36:39.160 so that means they had a disagreement.
00:36:40.700 They could not come to,
00:36:41.900 to agreement.
00:36:42.460 And so what,
00:36:43.940 what did Alvin Bragg do?
00:36:45.400 Well,
00:36:45.600 Alvin Bragg moved to dismiss the more serious charge.
00:36:49.160 Um,
00:36:49.800 and,
00:36:50.160 and he was trying to get a conviction on the less serious charge.
00:36:53.420 And,
00:36:53.880 and I gotta say to the jury's credit,
00:36:55.700 they came back very quickly with a not guilty.
00:36:59.140 So the jury has determined he is,
00:37:01.040 he is innocent,
00:37:01.580 but listen to MSNBC and,
00:37:03.740 and just how upset they are,
00:37:05.200 uh,
00:37:05.560 that,
00:37:05.920 that this innocent man was found not guilty.
00:37:08.480 News here,
00:37:09.320 Daniel Penny found not guilty,
00:37:11.120 but Lisa,
00:37:11.520 so we also know that Jordan Neely's family had filed,
00:37:14.560 I believe a civil suit in this case as well.
00:37:17.060 Does the verdict in this case impact that?
00:37:20.000 Not necessarily.
00:37:21.280 I mean,
00:37:21.460 we,
00:37:21.820 the law is rife with examples of people who are acquitted in criminal cases and yet find justice with respect to civil accountability.
00:37:30.740 I think the best example of that is with respect to Fred Goldman's family,
00:37:34.960 Fred Goldman,
00:37:35.600 I'm sorry,
00:37:36.320 Ron Goldman being the man who was murdered alongside Nicole Brown Simpson,
00:37:40.440 even though OJ Simpson was never found criminally guilty for those two murders.
00:37:45.980 Fred Goldman,
00:37:46.480 the father,
00:37:47.480 along with his daughter,
00:37:49.100 then sued OJ Simpson civilly and won a fairly large verdict with respect to civil liability for OJ Simpson.
00:37:56.480 There are many other examples of similar disjuncture between what happens in a criminal court and what happens when respect to a wrongful death action,
00:38:03.720 for example,
00:38:04.360 by a family.
00:38:05.660 It's sad,
00:38:06.460 Senator,
00:38:06.660 but there seems to be another trend.
00:38:08.100 And that is,
00:38:08.700 if you are an innocent person and then you were found innocent of a crime,
00:38:12.980 if the media doesn't like you,
00:38:14.940 they're still going to act like you're a threat to society.
00:38:17.100 Well,
00:38:17.880 you look at,
00:38:18.540 that's a reporter,
00:38:19.260 Lisa Rubin on MSNBC,
00:38:21.040 who,
00:38:21.680 who,
00:38:21.920 who is calling for the mentally ill homeless man who was high on drugs and threatening to murder people on the train,
00:38:30.760 calling for him to find justice against the Marine who intervened to protect people and keep people safe.
00:38:38.960 And,
00:38:39.200 and,
00:38:39.360 and she analogizes it to the OJ Simpson case,
00:38:42.860 which is utterly absurd because look,
00:38:45.720 OJ Simpson was charged with,
00:38:48.760 and the facts were,
00:38:49.600 were pretty powerful,
00:38:50.540 was guilty of murder.
00:38:52.480 Now,
00:38:52.600 to be fair,
00:38:53.100 OJ Simpson was not found guilty of murder,
00:38:55.240 but there was significant evidence that OJ was guilty.
00:38:59.200 There was significant enough evidence that,
00:39:01.660 that he ended up being hit with a,
00:39:04.500 with a large civil judgment.
00:39:06.820 This is not remotely,
00:39:08.680 there's no argument,
00:39:10.400 no rational,
00:39:11.620 reasonable argument under the law that Daniel Penny is guilty of murder.
00:39:16.040 Self-defense is fully protected.
00:39:17.980 And by the way,
00:39:19.140 if perchance you don't believe me,
00:39:22.760 you ought,
00:39:23.420 you should listen to my former criminal law professor,
00:39:26.240 Alan Dershowitz.
00:39:26.960 Now,
00:39:27.140 Alan Dershowitz is a liberal.
00:39:29.600 He's been a liberal his whole life,
00:39:30.900 but he,
00:39:31.180 but he,
00:39:32.320 he has the courage to speak out and speak the truth and listen to what Alan Dershowitz,
00:39:38.660 said about this case and about the absolutely corrupt prosecutor,
00:39:44.460 Alvin Bragg.
00:39:45.260 I'm going to start off with just the immediate reaction to the not guilty verdict in the Daniel
00:39:48.900 Penny case.
00:39:49.880 I have to admit,
00:39:50.780 I was a little surprised having hung on the higher count.
00:39:53.900 I was not expecting that they would so quickly acquit on the lower count.
00:39:58.360 It probably shows that there were only one or two people in the original high count that hung based on their desire to see a conviction.
00:40:08.280 So I think it's a good thing.
00:40:10.600 Now,
00:40:10.720 I think the next step has to be the removal of Alvin Bragg from the role of district attorney.
00:40:15.760 He is a disgrace to the office.
00:40:18.180 The two cases he brought should never have been brought.
00:40:21.160 The case against Donald Trump,
00:40:22.560 which was made up out of whole cloth,
00:40:24.500 which to my mind involves unethical,
00:40:26.840 unprofessional conduct by Bragg and also this case,
00:40:30.060 which should never have been brought either.
00:40:32.720 He brought it only because of the racial component of the case and because of pressures from Black Lives Matter and other groups on the outside,
00:40:40.580 both white and black radicals who wanted these cases to be brought,
00:40:44.300 wanted this case to be brought,
00:40:45.740 and who are going to continue to complain,
00:40:47.640 even though there were obviously black members of the jury who voted to acquit as well.
00:40:52.720 Professor,
00:40:53.360 what do you make of how quickly they came back with this verdict?
00:40:56.600 And also,
00:40:57.180 too,
00:40:57.340 there's the civil case that he's also facing,
00:41:00.260 too,
00:41:00.360 Daniel Penny.
00:41:01.380 Does that,
00:41:03.000 given that he's not guilty on the criminal case,
00:41:05.300 what happens to the civil case as well?
00:41:07.740 It'll be thrown out.
00:41:09.300 There's no case there.
00:41:10.620 Civilly,
00:41:11.600 the only thing that will happen is that Penny will get an enormous amount of discovery and will get much more information that we don't now have about,
00:41:22.100 the alleged victim in the case.
00:41:24.720 So my prediction is it will be withdrawn.
00:41:27.680 I don't think they'll go any further.
00:41:29.760 I don't think they'll get any kind of a verdict.
00:41:31.960 Now,
00:41:32.360 you know,
00:41:32.660 maybe the city will settle if they sue the city as well.
00:41:38.020 If I were the lawyers for the alleged victim,
00:41:44.060 I'd probably think I'd have a better shot of getting some money from the city,
00:41:47.640 which was sympathetic,
00:41:48.940 obviously,
00:41:49.460 to the victim than from a poor former Marine who probably doesn't have a lot of money.
00:41:56.600 So I don't think the civil case is going anywhere.
00:41:59.220 This is not O.J. Simpson,
00:42:00.740 where the civil case won after the criminal case loss.
00:42:03.480 There was no case here to bring it all either civil or criminal.
00:42:07.320 Alan Dershowitz,
00:42:08.180 there seems to be optimistic and I'm glad he's saying,
00:42:11.980 Hey,
00:42:12.180 I don't think he's going to have to deal with what,
00:42:14.160 for example,
00:42:14.580 O.J. Simpson had to deal with.
00:42:16.220 This is very different.
00:42:17.440 I hope he's right.
00:42:19.160 Well,
00:42:19.580 listen,
00:42:20.080 Alan Dershowitz,
00:42:21.260 he's a good friend.
00:42:21.980 As I said,
00:42:22.380 he was my criminal law professor and,
00:42:24.460 and I actually took another class from him in law school as well.
00:42:27.940 He was a fantastic professor.
00:42:29.180 He was the best professor I had in law school.
00:42:30.620 And he's a brilliant lawyer.
00:42:32.120 He's an incredibly talented lawyer.
00:42:34.760 And,
00:42:34.820 and you know,
00:42:36.100 I,
00:42:36.200 I remember my,
00:42:37.500 my first year in law school when,
00:42:39.160 when Dershowitz was stood up and he said,
00:42:42.200 listen,
00:42:42.800 he said,
00:42:43.540 by,
00:42:43.880 by any reasonable measure,
00:42:45.640 I am in the most liberal 1% of Americans across this country.
00:42:50.320 And he said,
00:42:51.380 at Harvard law school,
00:42:52.540 oddly enough,
00:42:53.120 I'm considered something of a conservative.
00:42:54.720 This is not America.
00:42:59.420 I don't remember if he said this is not America,
00:43:01.060 but this is not a typical place.
00:43:02.480 I mean,
00:43:02.600 this was 30 years ago.
00:43:04.120 So I'm,
00:43:04.540 I'm paraphrasing,
00:43:06.040 but,
00:43:06.220 but his point was,
00:43:07.600 so Dershowitz believes in free speech.
00:43:11.100 That is no longer where the left is.
00:43:13.180 The left is eager to censor someone who disagrees.
00:43:16.200 Dershowitz does not celebrate the murder of those he disagrees with.
00:43:20.460 Dershowitz is not a cultural Marxist.
00:43:22.000 He's an old school liberal.
00:43:24.180 He's a civil libertarian.
00:43:25.560 He,
00:43:25.660 he is,
00:43:27.620 you know,
00:43:28.380 has represented criminal defendants successfully.
00:43:30.740 He's gotten a lot of criminal defense off.
00:43:32.300 He believes in a,
00:43:33.040 a vigorous protection of constitutional rights for criminal defendants.
00:43:37.400 And,
00:43:38.040 and I look,
00:43:39.300 I,
00:43:39.580 I respect his courage.
00:43:41.020 He's been demonized.
00:43:43.000 He also supports Israel and speaks out very powerfully and effective for Israel.
00:43:47.040 He's been demonized by the left for doing so because they brook no dissent.
00:43:51.260 Anyone who dares oppose them is the enemy.
00:43:54.440 And so,
00:43:54.820 even though he's been one of the most prominent liberals in the country for decades,
00:44:00.820 uh,
00:44:01.320 he,
00:44:02.260 he is,
00:44:03.220 is rejected by today's left because he actually has the courage to speak out against them.
00:44:11.600 I hope he's right about the civil case.
00:44:13.700 In any sane and ordinary universe,
00:44:16.040 that would be true.
00:44:16.960 I have to say,
00:44:18.220 I have a little bit less confidence about a New York jury and a New York judge.
00:44:22.340 And,
00:44:22.860 and maybe that's because we all saw the,
00:44:25.500 the absolute kangaroo courts that were,
00:44:28.360 that were convened against Donald Trump.
00:44:30.040 And,
00:44:30.360 and,
00:44:30.480 and having seen the civil suits and,
00:44:33.040 and the,
00:44:33.640 the,
00:44:34.220 the,
00:44:34.480 the,
00:44:34.720 the criminal case against Donald Trump in the New York justice system,
00:44:37.840 uh,
00:44:38.940 he is right on what should happen.
00:44:41.240 Uh,
00:44:41.920 look,
00:44:42.260 I am very grateful that,
00:44:44.220 that,
00:44:44.460 that Daniel Penny was acquitted,
00:44:45.960 but it,
00:44:46.360 it says something about how little confidence I have about the justice system in New York,
00:44:51.440 that I was not sure this was happening,
00:44:53.140 would happen.
00:44:53.960 I,
00:44:54.180 I thought there was a chance,
00:44:55.520 uh,
00:44:56.400 they,
00:44:56.740 they would come back and,
00:44:58.120 and follow through on what Alvin Bragg wanted them to do,
00:45:01.080 which is punish him because he was deemed the bad guy.
00:45:05.420 And,
00:45:05.800 and,
00:45:05.980 and thankfully the,
00:45:07.340 the justice system worked in this case.
00:45:09.920 And you ought to ask yourself,
00:45:11.360 have you seen even a single Democrat celebrate the Daniel Penny verdict?
00:45:18.960 Yeah,
00:45:19.260 it's a great question.
00:45:20.800 And if not,
00:45:22.120 why not?
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