Verdict with Ted Cruz - March 20, 2026


Liberal Hypocrisy! — from NY Gov Kathy Hochul to Texas Candidate James Talarico, Joe Kent to Liberal Icon Cesar Chavez

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Ted Cruz and Ben Fergusons break down the hypocrisy of the far-left in America. They start with New York Gov. Kathy Hochul, who is now begging for her job back, and California Gov. Gavin Newsom. They then take a look at Joe Kent, who resigned from working for President Trump, and introduce him to someone who has very different views from him named Joe Kent. And finally, they talk about Cesar Chavez, the hero to the left, who was held up as an icon except for one minor detail: that he was allegedly a child rapist.

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00:00:05.280 Welcome, it is Verdict with Senator Ted Cruz, Ben Ferguson with you,
00:00:08.420 and many of you that are listening on the radio, welcome.
00:00:10.500 It's really nice to have you with us as well.
00:00:12.360 And if you're listening to the show for the first time, don't forget,
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00:00:20.280 Senator, we've got a lot to talk about on today's show.
00:00:23.080 There's a lot happening in the U.S. and also around the world.
00:00:25.280 Well, I've got to say, today's podcast, like the classic TV show Sesame Street, is brought to you by the letter H.
00:00:35.020 H for hypocrisy. 0.82
00:00:36.700 We're going to talk about hypocrisy, and we're going to tie four bits of hypocrisy together. 0.86
00:00:41.020 We're going to start with New York Governor Kathy Hochul and the utter hypocrisy of everyone she chased out of the state. 0.88
00:00:48.200 She is now desperately begging for them to come back.
00:00:51.000 We're going to start with her.
00:00:51.960 We're then going to go to the far-left loon who's been nominated to run for Senate in the state of Texas, James Tallarico.
00:01:00.240 We're going to introduce you to some weird, weird stuff this guy believes.
00:01:05.080 You guys are going to have a barbecue contest, I heard.
00:01:07.040 I'm excited about this.
00:01:08.180 Indeed we are.
00:01:10.160 And then we're going to get to Joe Kent.
00:01:13.620 Joe Kent, who just ostentatiously resigned from working for President Trump.
00:01:18.000 We're going to talk about Joe Kent, and we're going to introduce him to someone who has very different views from him named Joe Kent.
00:01:24.380 And then finally, we're going to talk about Cesar Chavez, the hero to the left.
00:01:29.300 He was held up as an icon, except for one minor detail, that he was allegedly a child rapist. 0.95
00:01:35.540 Those are the left-wing hypocrites that we're going to break down and give you the facts and what's happening with all four today. 0.94
00:01:43.880 Yeah, and somebody ate their Wheaties this morning, by the way, so this is going to be a really fun show. 0.90
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00:03:26.660 All right, Senator.
00:03:27.360 So let's start with your favorite Sesame Street letter H today.
00:03:31.060 And the governor of New York, she starts with an H there.
00:03:35.300 I got to give her a little credit.
00:03:37.200 I think you're going to be too mean.
00:03:39.060 I appreciate when a leader admits they're wrong.
00:03:41.820 I had a bet in my head of which leader was going to basically blink first.
00:03:46.360 Her begging people to come back or Gavin Newsom in California,
00:03:50.220 she's clearly a better leader.
00:03:52.020 She's admitting defeat much earlier on than Gavin Newsom is.
00:03:55.200 So I got to give her some props for that.
00:03:56.980 Yeah, but let's go on a time machine. 0.88
00:03:58.880 Let's go on a time machine back to 2022.
00:04:01.920 In 2022, Kathy Hochul said,
00:04:04.260 if you're a conservative, if you're a job producer, if you actually add value,
00:04:10.540 if you are not currently on welfare and not suckling on the teat of government,
00:04:16.060 then get the hell out of New York. 0.97
00:04:18.060 And by the way, maybe you don't believe it when I say that.
00:04:21.360 Give a listen to what she said as she was ordering job producers and conservatives to get out of New York. 0.99
00:04:27.120 This is 2022. Give a listen.
00:04:28.500 And we're here to say that the era of Trump and Zeldin and Molinaro just jump on a bus and head down to Florida where you belong.
00:04:39.520 OK, get out of town. Get out of town because you don't you don't represent our values.
00:04:46.580 You are not New Yorkers. 0.98
00:04:48.680 Now, Senator, to be clear, I'm totally fine with governors telling people to get the hell out if they're like illegal immigrants or terrorists or rapists or murderers out of their state and leave and never come back.
00:04:57.780 But this is a little creepy from the governor of New York at the time. 0.77
00:05:01.180 Yeah, no, she was telling every Republican in the state, leave because you're not a New Yorker.
00:05:05.520 And you know what? An awful lot of people took her up on it.
00:05:08.260 I have said before. So I have named long ago, I named Gavin Newsom the Texas Realtor of the Year.
00:05:16.680 And I've also named Comrade Mondami the Florida Realtor of the Year.
00:05:23.060 And by the way, Kathy Hochul was Mondami before Mondami was cool. 0.60
00:05:27.320 She was saying, get the hell out.
00:05:29.540 She's like the ambassador for Florida, right?
00:05:32.980 Hundreds of thousands of New Yorkers said, I agree. 1.00
00:05:37.680 You people are nuts. 1.00
00:05:39.440 You're bat crap crazy. 1.00
00:05:40.500 And I am out of here. 1.00
00:05:42.200 And then suddenly this year, Kathy Hochul has noticed she has a problem.
00:05:47.560 And again, don't let me put words in her mouth.
00:05:50.720 Give a listen to what her problem is.
00:05:52.460 and being conscious of the facts that i need people who are high net worth to support the
00:05:59.140 generous social programs that we want to have in our state right now there are some patriotic
00:06:05.120 millionaires who stepped up okay cut me the checks i mean just if you want to be supportive
00:06:12.040 but maybe the first step should be go down to palm beach and see what you can bring back home
00:06:16.660 because our tax base has been eroded so i philosophically don't have a problem it is like
00:06:22.080 I have to look at the fact that we are in competition with other states
00:06:25.080 who have less of a tax burden on their corporations and their individuals.
00:06:30.640 And I would say remote work changed everything.
00:06:33.380 There were people who could only work in an office in Manhattan
00:06:36.200 and work in New York State.
00:06:37.400 And they were captives to our state.
00:06:38.960 They were going to stay.
00:06:40.140 We saw that that's not the case.
00:06:41.800 I mean, Wall Street businesses looking at Texas,
00:06:46.680 they're not going there because they have a nicer governor.
00:06:48.620 I know that for sure.
00:06:49.800 But they're going there because of the tax rate.
00:06:51.900 we have to be smart about this but we can fund what we want to fund with what we already are
00:06:57.720 taking it so here's the part that's so interesting about this i love it and what do you put this
00:07:04.580 under is this communism or socialism or like a morph of the two because she's saying i do want
00:07:10.180 you to make a lot of money so that then i can take that money from you and then give it to the social
00:07:16.660 services, aka the poor, I'm like, this is a new hybrid. I want rich people, but then I want to
00:07:23.120 steal everything you make. Look, this is whiny leftism. This is hypocrisy. And let me start off 0.80
00:07:28.720 by saying, yes, we actually do have a nicer governor. I know Greg Abbott very well. He is
00:07:33.260 a great friend. He is a terrific leader. And that actually matters, not having arrogant leaders who
00:07:40.820 view their constituents as serfs, as subjects to be ruled. The left views them. If you don't agree,
00:07:47.920 get the hell out, which is what she told them. Look, I represent 32 million Texans. I represent
00:07:54.480 Democrats. I represent independents. Whether you voted for me or not, it's my job to represent
00:07:59.460 you, to fight for you, to fight for your jobs, to fight for your freedom, to fight for your security.
00:08:04.240 And the left doesn't view it that way. You are subjects and they will rule you.
00:08:08.380 But her whole pitch is she says, we need wealthy people so that we can pay for the generous social programs that I want. 1.00
00:08:17.120 In other words, her pitch is, please come back to New York so I can take your money, and I want to give away your money. 1.00
00:08:23.620 I'm much better at giving away your money than you are, so please come back so I can rob you. 0.57
00:08:30.020 And I got to say, like, you know, I did tweet out the gif from Dodgeball of, you know, interesting strategy there, Cotton.
00:08:36.960 Let's see how it works out for her.
00:08:38.740 You know, I'm not sure anyone is going to take that invitation.
00:08:41.980 Welcome to Manhattan.
00:08:42.980 Give me your money.
00:08:44.260 So, Senator, there's something very interesting that keeps brewing, and it's a theme in Texas.
00:08:49.480 That theme now is Democrats keep trying to find radical liberals that they masquerade into some sort of, like, moderate to then run for the Senate.
00:09:00.200 But if you just go back and look at their own words, they're moonbats.
00:09:05.340 Yeah, look, so the Democrats in Texas have nominated for the U.S. Senate this guy named James Tallarico, who was a state representative.
00:09:15.280 He'd only been in the legislature a couple of years.
00:09:17.560 He had not achieved much of anything.
00:09:20.160 And why did they pick some young state rep to be their Senate nominee? 0.51
00:09:24.680 Well, it turned out the guy went to seminary, and they're like, oh, look, this is great. 0.96
00:09:29.580 Now, look, today's modern Democrat Party, they hate people of faith unless you happen to be an Islamist and you're trying to kill people. 0.97
00:09:34.960 They like them. 0.97
00:09:35.900 But other than Islamists that are trying to murder people, anyone of faith, they can't stand. 1.00
00:09:40.720 And they especially can't stand Christians. 1.00
00:09:43.180 But I think the Democrats are frustrated that they keep losing in Texas. 0.99
00:09:46.660 they keep getting their butt kicked, and so they're like, all right, we need to find someone, 0.98
00:09:49.980 and they're like, oh, this guy went to seminary. He speaks Christian. This is their theory of the 0.99
00:09:56.280 case. Like, he can talk to those strange people who believe in that Jesus guy. That's how
00:10:01.460 Democrats— He's read that Bible thing before, right? —strategists are thinking, and the only
00:10:06.620 problem is, like, this guy is weird. And again, don't take my word for it. I'm just going to
00:10:14.240 introduce you to James Tallarica. First of all, all right, let's listen to this preacher talk
00:10:18.640 about God. What does he have to say about God? Well, give a listen. The first two lines of the
00:10:23.240 Bible, the first two lines in Genesis, use two different Hebrew words to describe God.
00:10:32.820 One is the masculine Hebrew noun for divinity. The second is the feminine Hebrew noun for spirit.
00:10:42.320 god is both masculine and feminine and everything in between god is non-binary 1.00
00:10:52.120 in genesis 126 god speaks of god's self in the plural saying let us make human beings
00:11:02.300 in our image to be like us that's the infinite multitude of god the masculine the feminine
00:11:12.560 and everything in between trans children are god's children made in god's own image 0.99
00:11:22.480 now senator i've heard of stretches before using you using the bible but when you're like let me
00:11:28.420 just take you the very beginning and here's how i'm going to morph that into like this like that's
00:11:32.940 a whole new level and and even the room the people around him are kind of like looking like is he
00:11:36.940 really is he really doing this it's a great video look god ain't nine non-binary and and yes god is
00:11:43.640 plural because you've got the the the the trinity of god the father god the son god the holy spirit
00:11:50.660 three in one, but that does not mean that, you know, he says, well, God created male, female,
00:11:59.460 and everything in between. No, no, he created Adam, he created Eve, and he stopped. He didn't
00:12:06.020 create a third creature that was neither male nor female. He created both. Okay, so you might say,
00:12:14.080 All right, that's fine, but maybe that's just sort of a curious theological quirk.
00:12:20.820 He had more to say about people who are transgender, and it might kind of surprise you.
00:12:26.480 Listen to what he had to say about the trans community.
00:12:30.920 Before we go further, I want to acknowledge that our trans community needs abortion care, too.
00:12:36.960 Defending trans Texans is something we have to do every day.
00:12:39.680 Now, that one, if you're not watching this on YouTube, I just want to set the stage, Senator.
00:12:45.700 There is literally communion table behind him, two candles that are lit.
00:12:51.720 And he's like, now let me just tell you, the trans community, they need abortion care, too.
00:12:55.080 Like, I'm just curious, like, where in the scripture is that in there?
00:12:58.800 Like, I'm waiting.
00:13:00.220 You know, this guy that went to ministry, like, I just want to know where he found that.
00:13:04.720 The guy says that in a church and I guess is pretending to be a preacher.
00:13:09.280 but you understand this is his priority abortions for people who are transgender like like that i'm
00:13:15.100 sorry that is just out there um and and this is the the pressing priority but look i i i got to
00:13:23.360 admit the reason he's saying all of this is is that he's got to apologize for his own overwhelming
00:13:31.220 masculinity um and and and again don't take my word for it give a listen to him explaining
00:13:38.300 No need to sit and cry over, you know, your whiteness or your masculinity.
00:13:43.760 Right.
00:13:44.040 Use it.
00:13:44.580 Yep.
00:13:44.880 Use it to do something.
00:13:45.840 Yeah.
00:13:46.320 Let's be productive.
00:13:47.680 I mean, amen, pastor, on that one, right?
00:13:50.020 Like, that is just preach.
00:13:51.800 Sign me up.
00:13:52.660 Where can I go to get more of that?
00:13:54.800 Okay, look, I got to say, for those of y'all who are not watching on YouTube, you really
00:13:58.620 should watch on YouTube.
00:14:00.780 Because no need to cry over your masculinity.
00:14:05.140 Yeah.
00:14:05.340 said no person who had even a shred of masculinity.
00:14:09.100 I mean, this is a guy who makes Pete Buttigieg look manly.
00:14:13.220 You're not lying, by the way.
00:14:14.660 This is a guy, if like a soy latte could speak,
00:14:19.100 that would be Democrat James Tallarico.
00:14:22.460 That is my new official analogy that you've ever said on this show.
00:14:25.440 That is number one now.
00:14:27.540 And by the way, okay, so he's not very masculine.
00:14:33.080 He's crying about his masculinity, what little of it he has.
00:14:36.680 But at least he's an American, right? 0.92
00:14:38.340 I mean, he's at least proud of America.
00:14:41.940 Well, not so much.
00:14:42.900 Give a listen to what he has to say about that.
00:14:44.900 I often think when reclaiming symbols, I think about the American flag.
00:14:48.620 I think the Confederate flag is a symbol of treason and terrorism.
00:14:51.880 But the American flag is such a complicated symbol for most of us.
00:14:55.480 And in many ways, like Jesus, like the cross, it's been co-opted.
00:14:59.220 and in some ways its true meaning has been betrayed.
00:15:05.320 By the way, I didn't know that we had co-opted Jesus so much.
00:15:09.060 Like, that's breaking news there, Senator.
00:15:11.380 So, look, this is a supposed pastor who is embarrassed about Jesus,
00:15:16.260 embarrassed about the cross, and now embarrassed about the American flag.
00:15:20.440 But, okay, look, you set everything else aside.
00:15:23.440 It's Texas.
00:15:24.540 At least he stands with barbecue, right?
00:15:27.440 Yes, that's true.
00:15:28.520 No, it's not. Give a listen to what he has to say on meat.
00:15:33.000 We have, I think, heard more and more issues of animal welfare.
00:15:37.240 I think not just because it's the right thing to do and the moral thing to do,
00:15:40.860 but also it's, as all of you know, necessary to fight climate change.
00:15:44.920 It is now existential that we try to reduce our meat consumption
00:15:49.200 and that we try to respect animals in all aspects of society.
00:15:52.920 And so I am proud to say that our campaign has officially become a non-meat campaign.
00:15:59.540 So we have we are we are only buying vegan products from our local vegan businesses.
00:16:09.320 The guy hates barbecue.
00:16:12.760 Perfect for Texas. 0.60
00:16:14.160 They found their candidate.
00:16:16.060 The Democrats understand Texans.
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00:17:22.820 Senator, there was a story this week,
00:17:25.500 and of course, Washington just erupted with this story.
00:17:29.460 The media just, it was blood in the water,
00:17:32.760 and this is going to be the undoing of the Trump administration
00:17:35.860 because a B-team guy in the administration
00:17:38.400 contradicted himself and his own beliefs
00:17:41.080 and then resigned and ran straight to Tucker Carlson
00:17:43.940 to whine and complain,
00:17:45.780 and that was supposed to be like the end of the world.
00:17:48.760 I kind of laugh at this story with a guy named Joe Kent.
00:17:51.340 You've got to Google just to remind yourself exactly who he was.
00:17:54.880 Yeah, so look, Joe Kent, I don't know him.
00:17:57.460 He was a failed candidate for Congress.
00:17:59.600 He ran for Congress and lost,
00:18:00.900 and he got himself appointed to be in the DNI office,
00:18:05.340 in the Director of National Intelligence Office.
00:18:08.280 And this week he ostentatiously, he loudly resigned from the Trump administration.
00:18:13.320 And as you noted, the media was thrilled because he was resigning to attack President Trump.
00:18:18.780 And there's nothing that the media likes better than a Republican attacking Donald Trump.
00:18:24.700 And so Joe Kent tweeted out, after much reflection, I have decided to resign from my position as director of the National Counterterrorism Center, effective today.
00:18:34.980 I cannot in good conscience support the ongoing war in Iran.
00:18:38.180 Iran posed no imminent threat to our nation, and it is clear that we started this war due to pressure from Israel and its powerful American lobby.
00:18:48.320 It has been an honor serving under POTUS and Tulsi Gabbard and leading the professionals at NCTC.
00:18:54.060 May God bless America.
00:18:56.080 All right, so you hear that, and you think, okay, the guy's an isolationist, and he hates Israel.
00:19:03.140 Yeah.
00:19:03.480 Where is he going to go, to the surprise of nobody, the next day he was on Tucker Carlson?
00:19:09.960 Like, it's literally, oh, you hate Israel?
00:19:11.660 Within 24 hours.
00:19:12.600 Yeah.
00:19:13.080 You hate Israel, and you're cheering for Iran. 1.00
00:19:16.300 Well, okay, Tucker, that's what the show is there for.
00:19:20.240 Now, you might think, okay, this guy just disagrees with Trump's foreign policy.
00:19:24.900 Maybe he shouldn't have been appointed in the first place.
00:19:26.800 If he really disagreed with Trump's foreign policy, he should leave.
00:19:31.120 Now, the interesting thing is he didn't always disagree with Trump's foreign policy.
00:19:36.500 So January 2020, what did Joe Kent post?
00:19:39.920 He posted the following, quote,
00:19:42.060 Trump's, quote, red line is American loss of life and IR nuke development.
00:19:48.280 I personally think we should have crushed their ballistic and nuke capability.
00:19:55.440 But Trump has a plan.
00:19:57.280 He has definitely earned the confidence of any clear-eyed observer.
00:20:01.700 So that was 2020.
00:20:03.120 He wanted to crush their ballistic and nuclear capability.
00:20:06.340 What are we doing right now, by the way, Ben?
00:20:08.100 Yeah, we're doing exactly that.
00:20:10.920 We are literally doing exactly what he advocated for.
00:20:13.600 Yep, we are crushing their ballistic and nuke capability.
00:20:16.360 How about September 2024?
00:20:17.980 What did he say during the last election season?
00:20:20.240 He said, quote,
00:20:21.040 Trump used a balance of diplomacy, economic pressure and targeted strikes to contain Iran, the embodiment of peace through strength. 0.98
00:20:32.100 So what is Trump doing now? The exact same thing.
00:20:35.660 All right. Yeah. How about October 2024?
00:20:39.380 Quote, October 7th happened because Biden-Harris gave Iran access to over 100 billion.
00:20:48.360 Trump used diplomacy to build the Abraham Accords, cut off Iran's funding, and killed key terrorists.
00:20:56.020 America and our allies were safe, and there was less war.
00:21:01.160 No more neocons, no appeasement.
00:21:04.360 Trump, 24.
00:21:06.580 So, apparently, from 20...
00:21:10.800 Oh, and by the way, what else did he say in 2020?
00:21:14.440 Here's another tweet of his.
00:21:15.600 We should not sit and wait for the next attack.
00:21:19.840 And this is addressed to real Donald Trump.
00:21:22.320 Wipe Iran's ballistic capability out and get our troops out of Iraq. 1.00
00:21:27.560 They are only targets now.
00:21:29.780 That is what he said in 2020, what he said in 2022, what he said in 2024.
00:21:37.000 He agreed with everything Trump is doing until he got in office
00:21:41.940 and suddenly decided Iran is no longer a threat.
00:21:46.400 Apparently, Iran became less of a threat as they killed more Americans. 1.00
00:21:51.520 And by the way, my initial reaction to this was,
00:21:55.420 okay, you're a guy that's on the B team.
00:21:58.560 I don't mean that as a slight at all.
00:22:00.980 I want to be clear.
00:22:01.700 You need a lot of really good people in an administration.
00:22:04.540 Not everybody's in the room when you're going after Osama bin Laden.
00:22:08.420 There's a ton of great people that are on the B team.
00:22:11.560 And by all accounts, he was kept out because he didn't have the confidence.
00:22:16.900 He didn't have the confidence of the commander in chief.
00:22:18.960 And by the way, given how he has petulantly quit and run on Tucker Carlson to attack President Trump,
00:22:27.220 you can understand why he didn't have the confidence of the commander in chief.
00:22:30.960 Like this is illustrating who he is.
00:22:34.460 And I want you to listen.
00:22:35.520 So we went on Tucker and he comes up with this bizarre theory.
00:22:40.940 yeah that that israel is is threatening donald trump give a listen what kind of pressure does 0.61
00:22:48.740 it require to get a president who campaigned against exactly this thing for 10 years to do
00:22:55.240 exactly this thing what does it take to do that i i wish i knew definitively i think there's two
00:23:01.680 potentials there's two schools of thought i mean one is the media echo chamber the donors the way
00:23:07.060 the Israelis come in and kind of launder the information like I, like I described previously. 0.73
00:23:12.120 And, and then the other option is much darker. I mean, we still don't know what happened in
00:23:16.680 Butler. We don't know what happened with, with Charlie Kirk. And by no means am I saying like,
00:23:22.320 you know, the Israelis did this or, or any of that, but I'm saying there's a lot of unanswered
00:23:25.900 questions there. And there is enough data to at least say that there's a good chance
00:23:30.360 that President Trump feels like he is under threat.
00:23:36.280 Wow. That's the best way I can put it, Senator. Wow.
00:23:39.800 Look, that's just unhinged.
00:23:41.860 And let's start, so Tucker, as he often does, starts with a premise that is just false, that is a lie.
00:23:49.560 He says, Trump spent 10 years campaigning against this, and then suddenly he did this.
00:23:54.000 Well, no, Tucker, he didn't.
00:23:55.560 Trump has said over and over and over again, Iran will not have a nuclear weapon.
00:23:59.660 And he repeatedly called out Iran. It's Tucker who has opposed Trump.
00:24:05.160 I get Tucker does not agree with Donald Trump's foreign policy because Donald Trump is.
00:24:10.900 And by the way, when you know, when I went on Tucker's show, Tucker insisted, no, no, no.
00:24:15.320 Iran has never tried to kill Trump, which is which is, again, a total falsehood.
00:24:19.540 And bizarrely enough, do you remember what what Tucker said he would do if Iran had tried to kill Trump?
00:24:25.900 If I remember correctly, didn't he say we go after them? He would nuke them. 0.97
00:24:29.000 I think it was nuke them, right? 0.95
00:24:30.180 He said, we should nuke them. 0.82
00:24:31.880 Wee! 0.99
00:24:32.300 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:24:32.960 Hee, hee, hee, hee. 0.67
00:24:34.120 But like with his weird laugh.
00:24:36.160 Yeah.
00:24:36.300 Like, and by the way, I said, no, no, we should not nuke them.
00:24:39.720 That's actually an unhiged view. 0.95
00:24:41.980 That would be crazy.
00:24:43.020 And you know what?
00:24:43.600 Shortly thereafter, Tucker had on his show the president of Iran.
00:24:46.560 You know what he didn't ask him?
00:24:48.240 About any of that?
00:24:49.660 Why are you guys trying to kill President Trump?
00:24:51.740 And by the way, like, the assassins have been criminally convicted.
00:24:55.680 Like, there is no dispute.
00:24:56.500 Why are you hiring people to actually follow through on killing American leaders, including the president?
00:25:01.380 That would be a great question if you weren't compromised.
00:25:04.100 And listen, Joe Kent and Tucker together.
00:25:07.340 So Joe is saying the, quote, darker theory is that Trump is under threat from Israel.
00:25:14.200 Mind you, that's what he's saying.
00:25:15.680 And he also suggests, well, and Charlie Kirk was, too.
00:25:19.580 And then he says, now, I'm not saying the Israelis killed Charlie Kirk, but there are questions.
00:25:25.080 Let me say, anyone who believes Israel killed Charlie Kirk, you've lost your mind.
00:25:32.280 That is a moonbat theory.
00:25:36.280 And by the way, he is talking with a fellow moonbat who is open to those kinds of theories.
00:25:43.060 And interestingly enough, it appears that may not be the first time they're talking.
00:25:47.480 So Notice reported the following, quote,
00:25:51.160 A law enforcement source said FBI agents had determined that Kent shared secret government information with disaffected MAGA media figures like Tucker Carlson.
00:26:03.040 A second administration official said that Kent leaked classified information from a server to a member of the media.
00:26:11.680 By the way, I want to be clear about the timestamp on this because this is important.
00:26:15.100 There's many in the media and I called them out in the last couple of days when I was debating this on TV.
00:26:18.580 I'm like, I want everybody listening to verdict to understand this was not an investigation that started after he resigned.
00:26:25.840 This is apparently an investigation that had started well before he resigned, which may have actually been the reason why he said, I got to get out now and try to tell my story.
00:26:36.100 Yeah, look, I don't know if it's true.
00:26:38.160 I don't know if he's being investigated for leaking classified information.
00:26:42.020 The media is reporting it.
00:26:43.700 And I don't know the facts.
00:26:44.700 I don't know.
00:26:44.960 I don't know if he did it.
00:26:45.960 But I got to say that there is some irony that at least they're saying he was leaking to Tucker Carlson, and Tucker Carlson has been waging a war on President Trump's foreign policy, and apparently a war with allies in the administration.
00:27:05.780 Listen, if Joe Kent disagreed with the president's foreign policy, he could have just submitted his resignation.
00:27:12.620 But instead, he wanted to go in a blaze of glory and just attack Trump.
00:27:18.660 And I got to say, that's who Tucker is.
00:27:21.040 That's who the isolationist loons are.
00:27:24.460 And I think it is a foreign policy that does not protect America from our enemy.
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00:28:04.320 All right, finally, Senator, let's wrap with a story
00:28:07.480 that another hero of the left,
00:28:11.200 yeah, it looks like it was a crazy person 0.83
00:28:13.600 that is now going to go down in history in disgrace.
00:28:16.740 This time, it's a guy by the last name of Chavez.
00:28:21.140 So this is our hypocrisy, not just trifecta, but four of a kind.
00:28:25.640 So we started with Kathy Hochul, 0.97
00:28:27.740 the hypocritical Democrat governor of New York. We then went to James Tallarico, the very, 0.94
00:28:33.400 very strange Democrat nominee for the Senate. We then went to Joe Kent, the previous Trump
00:28:38.940 supporter who has decided now that Trump is under an assassination threat from Israel.
00:28:45.380 And finally, Cesar Chavez. Who is Cesar Chavez? He is a hero to the Democrats, a hero to the left,
00:28:51.160 an icon. He was a union organizer for the United Farm Workers, and he is revered.
00:28:57.740 except for the fact that that famed right-wing publication, the New York Times, 0.95
00:29:03.120 just published an expose that for years he was raping little girls. 0.96
00:29:09.360 And they come with the receipts that he had raped little girls year after year after year, 0.97
00:29:16.300 and the left had covered it up. 0.94
00:29:17.900 They'd covered it up because they agreed with his politics.
00:29:20.800 And I've got to say that there's a really good opinion piece that The Daily Wire ran
00:29:24.860 by a woman named Ariana Guajarda, who's a Texan and a Latina. And here's what she wrote. I want
00:29:32.320 to read a good chunk of it, because it actually is a good insight. It's entitled, The Left Hid
00:29:37.560 Cesar Chavez's Rapes and Turned Him into a Saint. She begins, when I was in college,
00:29:45.440 I passed the Cesar Chavez statue every day on my walk to class at the University of Texas.
00:29:51.660 Now Cesar Chavez is the name of the road I take to work, and it's a big road right in downtown Austin.
00:29:58.420 For years, Chavez was presented as the figurehead for Mexican-Americans, a symbol we were expected to revere.
00:30:06.900 But he represented a collectivist ideology that perpetuated ethnic tribalism.
00:30:13.000 After the New York Times broke the story of his sexual abuse of young girls, this false idol is finally toppling.
00:30:20.820 My only hope is that he is not replaced by another.
00:30:24.920 Chavez has long been celebrated as a symbol of the civil rights era and as a champion of labor unions in America.
00:30:31.380 He co-founded the United Farm Workers Union to fight for better condition for migrant laborers.
00:30:36.500 But in truth, he exploited the very people he claimed to protect while tying Mexican-Americans to socialist ideology, which is, of course, what the Democrats want.
00:30:46.340 He carefully crafted a public image as a family man devoted to Catholic social teaching, but the reality was much darker.
00:30:56.860 Chavez's philosophy echoes Marxist rhetoric about the proletariat and the bourgeoisie.
00:31:02.540 At a UFW convention in 1981, Chavez proclaimed,
00:31:07.840 I would not take one cup of coffee from a grower, and he means a farmer.
00:31:12.900 There's not a good one. I hate them. A few presents, a little talk, then the noose.
00:31:20.180 That's how capitalism works. This is the hero of the left. It isn't just his rhetoric that
00:31:27.380 sounds alarm bells. Early in his career, he worked with Saul Alinsky, the community organizer who
00:31:33.540 defined the modern leftist playbook in Rules for Radicals. Chavez and the UFW later implemented
00:31:40.140 Alinsky's tactics, fostering confrontational, divisive organizing. Then there is the recent
00:31:46.520 revelation of his extensive sexual abuse of minors. The behavior is not distinct from other
00:31:54.040 far-left figures, such as Joseph Stalin to Mao to Kim Jong-il. Communist and socialist leaders
00:32:00.900 often share a troubling connection to sexual predation. We should not be surprised that evil
00:32:09.160 ideology attracts evil people. By the way, that's a sentence worth remembering. We should not be
00:32:16.300 surprised that evil ideology attracts evil people. If the warning signs around Chavez have existed
00:32:25.260 for decades, why did he become the face of an entire ethnicity in America? Partly because he
00:32:32.100 was effective at mobilizing Mexican Americans in California, using rhetoric that created a lasting
00:32:37.100 us versus them mentality. Yep. But how did that ideology extend to Texas?
00:32:45.300 Chavez never belonged to the Tejano heritage the same way he does in Chicano culture. 0.81
00:32:50.480 The Chicano culture and movement are a direct outgrowth of the California Hispanic labor
00:32:57.080 movement in the 60s and 70s. On the other hand, the Tejano culture traces back to the Mexican
00:33:03.480 settlers of Texas prior to Texas independence and is a component of what created the Texas
00:33:09.480 identity. That history is also tied to farming and a cowboy ethos that is incompatible with
00:33:17.160 Chavez's ideology. Texas agriculture thrived because of ranchers like my ancestors who
00:33:24.820 embraced a free market approach, not because of unions or collectivist movements. Before the New
00:33:32.500 York Times expose, one could argue that Chavez fought for Mexican Americans and deserved
00:33:37.400 gratitude. Yet his legacy has encouraged a troubling mindset. To be loyal to one's Hispanic
00:33:44.020 heritage, one must embrace left-wing ideology. On campus, I was often labeled a, quote, race
00:33:50.980 traitor at conservative events, accused of, quote, wanting white approval or dismissed as, quote,
00:33:57.060 too white passing to comment on border and immigration issues. By the way, Jorge Ramos 0.95
00:34:03.960 on Spanish television accused me of being a traitor to my race, so I'm quite familiar with that. 1.00
00:34:10.860 The type of tribalism promoted by Chavez is just like any other kind of identity politics,
00:34:17.420 limiting and stereotyping the people it is intended to empower. In the political climate
00:34:23.700 in which Texas Hispanics are considering Republicans on the ballot, it is clear why 0.98
00:34:28.820 the left is feeling threatened. So why is the street in Austin named after Cesar Chavez?
00:34:34.740 Why did his statue watch me as I walked to class? The answer is clear. Ethnic tokenism. 0.58
00:34:41.740 It was fitting for Bill Clinton to award him a Presidential Medal of Freedom, by the way,
00:34:47.420 Bill Clinton, speaking of sexual predators, there may have been a reason there,
00:34:50.200 and for Joe Biden to display his bust in the Oval Office. 0.98
00:34:55.600 Joe Biden literally put up a bust of Cesar Chavez, who was a child rapist, in the Oval Office. 0.91
00:35:01.900 Chavez represents the Hispanic worker, the political left wishes we all were, 0.83
00:35:09.160 obedient to a union boss and beholden to collectivist ideology.
00:35:14.960 The UFW announced it will not be celebrating Cesar Chavez Day this year amid the allegations.
00:35:20.200 The idol, all Hispanics, who were once expected to adore, is finally falling from his pedestal. 1.00
00:35:26.840 My hope is that we do not replace him with another.
00:35:31.060 Look, I think that is exceptionally well written.
00:35:33.860 Well done, and I have to give a little credit to the New York Times for actually publishing it.
00:35:37.600 Yes, agreed.
00:35:40.640 I'm shocked. I really am.
00:35:42.660 Now, to be clear, Chavez is not a current leftist leader.
00:35:45.520 If he was a current leader of the Democrat Party, I don't think they would have published it.
00:35:50.960 But given that he's dead and buried, I think it was after the fact.
00:35:57.460 And look, what is sad is that so many Democrats, so many leftists knew that he was a child rapist and they kept their mouth shut because ideology mattered more than truth or protecting kids.
00:36:11.040 Yeah, great point.
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