Verdict with Ted Cruz - June 28, 2025


Liberal Logic on Iran, Hegseth takes it to the Media & Screwing up the Iranian End Game Week In Review


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Ted Cruz and Ben Ferguson talk about liberal logic and the Iran attack, J.K. Rowling's tweet about a transgender newsreader, and what can happen if we screw up the Iran deal and get nuclear weapons. Plus, the question moving forward is, what's next? And what can we do if we mess up the deal?

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00:00:00.000 This is an iHeart Podcast.
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00:00:05.300 Welcome.
00:00:06.020 It is Verdict with Ted Cruz, Weekend Review.
00:00:08.620 Ben Ferguson with you.
00:00:09.640 And here are the big stories that we talked about this week that you may have missed.
00:00:13.000 First up, talk about liberal logic.
00:00:15.580 Since the attack on Iran, liberals are afraid of Iran's response to what Donald Trump is
00:00:21.580 doing, saying he could be starting World War III.
00:00:23.980 Yet they're not afraid of Iran actually getting a nuclear weapon.
00:00:27.560 We'll break that down for you.
00:00:28.820 Also, the DOD Secretary, Pete Hedseth, briefing, doing it directly to the media, calling them
00:00:36.180 out to their faces on their lies about the damage assessment.
00:00:40.520 And finally, the big question moving forward is, what's next?
00:00:44.840 And what can happen if we screw up the endgame?
00:00:48.080 It's the Weekend Review, and it starts right now.
00:00:51.220 Let's talk a little bit about the liberal logic that has been coming out of so many Democrats
00:00:55.060 since this attack took place.
00:00:56.860 And the people who seem to be obsessing over Iran's response, implying that their response 1.00
00:01:04.220 is Donald Trump's fault that they're going to respond, are the same idiots that were not afraid of Iran getting a nuclear weapon. 1.00
00:01:12.820 Can you explain that liberal logic, please? 1.00
00:01:15.580 Sadly, today's Democrat Party sides with every enemy of America.
00:01:20.140 They side on the other side.
00:01:21.660 Look, J.K. Rowling tweeted this weekend about this person, India Willoughby.
00:01:28.720 Now, I'll confess, I have no idea who India Willoughby is.
00:01:31.720 But J.K. Rowling tweeted, 0.95
00:01:33.480 India, a fan of women-hating, gay-hating, authoritarian regime, color me astonished. 1.00
00:01:39.660 So I went and Googled who is this India Willoughby person, and it turns out, according to Wikipedia, 0.86
00:01:45.920 quote, she is Britain's first transgender national television newsreader.
00:01:53.400 Now, pause for a second, Ben. 0.99
00:01:56.020 Iran murders transgender people. 1.00
00:01:59.760 They throw them off buildings. 1.00
00:02:01.100 If you are gay, they murder you. 1.00
00:02:04.320 And think about the mindset of a leftist who, this transgender newsreader in, I guess, the U.K., 0.99
00:02:13.940 is like, even though the Ayatollah wants to murder me, I stand with the Ayatollah rather than America. 0.79
00:02:22.260 That is how messed up leftists are right now. 1.00
00:02:24.920 They're like, oh, homicidal, theocratic, women-oppressing, gay-murdering, torturing, genocidal lunatics. 1.00
00:02:35.340 Those are my people. 1.00
00:02:37.240 It doesn't make any sense to me.
00:02:39.160 And then you go back to also the quotes that people have been posting,
00:02:43.680 and I think it's really important that history reflect.
00:02:46.520 You go back to Bill Clinton, Senator, and he said that Iran couldn't get a nuclear weapon.
00:02:50.880 Hillary Clinton, when she was a senator, Secretary of State, and running for president, said Iran cannot get a nuclear weapon.
00:02:58.600 Barack Obama said that he cannot get a nuclear weapon.
00:03:02.480 You had Joe Biden that said they couldn't get a nuclear weapon.
00:03:05.820 And then they're at 60-plus percent, and Donald Trump stops them,
00:03:10.360 and then all of the left's like, you can't do that.
00:03:13.000 You're going to start World War III. 0.70
00:03:14.440 This is somehow your fault.
00:03:15.840 You're the aggressor.
00:03:16.720 And understand, the reason we are here is because of Barack Obama and Joe Biden.
00:03:23.060 Barack Obama negotiated the disastrous Iran nuclear deal.
00:03:26.660 That flooded billions and billions of dollars into Iran.
00:03:30.900 Listen, remember, Obama literally flew $1.7 billion of cash, unmarked bills on a pallet to deliver to the Ayatollah.
00:03:38.700 That agreement set the stage for Iran to get nuclear weapons. 0.80
00:03:43.360 Donald Trump, when he came in as president.
00:03:45.260 Can we look at that deal for a second, and just now, in hindsight, what really was that deal?
00:03:50.960 Was that deal a, hey, I don't want to have to deal with you guys, so let's just, you kind of play nice with me,
00:03:56.580 and then I'll kick the can down the road to another administration?
00:03:59.540 Like, in hindsight, what was that?
00:04:01.640 Why did we do that deal?
00:04:03.480 It was radical ideology.
00:04:05.580 You know, when Barack Obama first became president,
00:04:08.180 he went and gave a speech at the University of Cairo in Egypt.
00:04:11.400 And in that speech, he said Iran has a right, and he used the word right, a right to nuclear technology. 0.93
00:04:20.020 Now, that is nutty.
00:04:21.460 That is, I'm familiar with the right to the pursuit of happiness.
00:04:25.300 I'm not familiar with a right to possess thermonuclear weapons.
00:04:29.280 And at the end of the day, I think Barack Obama and his entire team came in with an ideological view
00:04:36.660 that America's role in the world is fundamentally illegitimate, that we are colonial oppressors.
00:04:42.620 Look, as you know, my last book was Unwoke, How to Defeat Cultural Marxism in America.
00:04:47.140 These are the cultural Marxists.
00:04:48.540 They view America as illegitimate, and therefore, they view that we have no business,
00:04:55.040 we have no right stopping Iran from getting nuclear weapons. 0.60
00:04:58.960 Listen, the Obama-Iran nuclear deal would inevitably lead to Iran with nuclear weapons. 1.00
00:05:04.560 These guys are not idiots. 1.00
00:05:05.880 They knew that. 1.00
00:05:07.220 They're fine with that outcome because they believe America has no right to prevent it.
00:05:12.360 My view is, yes, we do. 0.98
00:05:13.960 If you've got a lunatic who's saying death to America, 0.96
00:05:16.740 and we have the power to stop him from getting nuclear weapons, 0.91
00:05:19.660 we will use that power because the commander-in-chief is not going to fail to protect America. 1.00
00:05:26.020 And I've got to say, by the way, the useful idiots across the globe. 1.00
00:05:29.400 Hey, you've got the Democrats today who are all chirping about, 1.00
00:05:32.500 how dare you act to stop Iran from getting a nuclear weapon? 0.55
00:05:35.580 We also had the Secretary of the United Nations, Antonio Guterres,
00:05:40.300 who put out a statement.
00:05:41.300 I'm going to read it to you.
00:05:42.080 I am gravely alarmed by the use of force by the United States against Iran today.
00:05:48.260 This is a dangerous escalation in a region already on the edge
00:05:52.040 and a direct threat to international peace and security.
00:05:56.220 There is a growing risk that this conflict could rapidly get out of control
00:06:00.920 with catastrophic consequences for civilians, the region, and the world.
00:06:05.260 I call on member states to de-escalate
00:06:08.000 and to uphold their obligations under the UN Charter and other rules of international law.
00:06:13.520 At this perilous hour, it is critical to avoid a spiral of chaos.
00:06:18.680 There is no military solution.
00:06:20.900 The only path forward is diplomacy.
00:06:23.480 The only hope is peace. 1.00
00:06:26.100 What a blithering idiot. 1.00
00:06:28.200 I'll tell you what I tweeted today. 1.00
00:06:29.780 I tweeted, of course, the UN sides with Iran. 0.81
00:06:34.320 Clown face emoji, clown face emoji, clown face emoji.
00:06:37.080 The only thing they couldn't decide is which chant they agree with more strongly. 0.97
00:06:44.720 Quote, death to Israel or, quote, death to America. 0.73
00:06:49.360 And then I asked a simple question.
00:06:51.760 Remind me again why we're paying their bills?
00:06:55.480 It's a fair question.
00:06:56.520 And you've got to wonder what's the point of being involved
00:06:58.880 if this is how insane they actually are.
00:07:01.920 So let's move to...
00:07:02.940 By the way, Ben, I also observed,
00:07:05.440 I think Tehran would make a lovely UN headquarters,
00:07:09.340 just located right there,
00:07:11.340 maybe on the smoldering ashes of Florida.
00:07:13.860 We can put the UN there,
00:07:15.600 and they can all get together with their anti-Israel hate
00:07:18.420 and their anti-American hate,
00:07:19.880 and they can sit there and glow radioactive
00:07:22.000 while they talk about developing nuclear weapons to bomb America.
00:07:27.680 At least it would be intellectually honest.
00:07:29.280 Like, where's the UN?
00:07:30.240 It's in Tehran.
00:07:30.980 Okay, that makes sense.
00:07:33.580 Look, that's who they...
00:07:35.480 This should not be complicated.
00:07:40.080 Iran, like... 0.99
00:07:42.480 Let me ask you, Ben, seriously,
00:07:43.780 put yourself in the head of the UN Secretary General.
00:07:47.480 How do you look at this and say,
00:07:49.120 where do I stand?
00:07:50.420 I know, with Iran. 0.93
00:07:51.760 Like, what thought process goes through your brain?
00:07:55.540 Yeah, what's the upside of doing that, and why?
00:07:57.760 And especially if you know what Iran just did 0.99
00:08:00.160 and how many terrorist organizations they've supported
00:08:02.440 that are just beyond, I mean, factually accurate.
00:08:06.880 Hamas, Hezbollah, and the UN's like, 0.92
00:08:08.620 we got you.
00:08:09.220 We're going to cover for you.
00:08:10.260 Don't worry.
00:08:10.960 We got your back.
00:08:11.860 It is...
00:08:12.580 And that's the reason why I think
00:08:13.940 it delegitimizes the United Nations
00:08:16.000 to the point where I just roll my eyes at them.
00:08:17.880 Now, I don't pay attention to what they say.
00:08:20.140 Final question, and this is what is next.
00:08:22.880 It's very clear there's a warning from this president.
00:08:25.960 Don't screw with us moving forward. 0.99
00:08:28.340 If Iran is dumb enough to retaliate against Americans 1.00
00:08:32.360 in the Middle East, 0.99
00:08:34.420 maybe even shutting down the Strait of Hormuz,
00:08:36.820 what is the president's obligation moving forward on that?
00:08:41.560 Well, one of the consequences of the bombing run
00:08:43.580 is the parliament in Iran did vote
00:08:45.520 to shut down the Straits of Hormuz.
00:08:47.380 Now, the parliament's not the decision maker.
00:08:49.820 At the end of the day, the Ayatollah's the decision maker. 0.96
00:08:52.000 So it's not clear if Iran is going to do so or not.
00:08:55.180 If it did so, it would impact America,
00:08:57.340 but it would impact China even more.
00:08:59.740 Roughly half of the oil that China uses
00:09:02.080 travels through the Straits of Hormuz.
00:09:04.120 A very small percentage of American oil
00:09:06.440 travels through there.
00:09:07.440 But that being said,
00:09:09.160 if the Straits of Hormuz were shut down,
00:09:11.440 it would impact America
00:09:12.560 because it would drive up global oil prices.
00:09:15.420 It would drive up gasoline prices at home.
00:09:17.520 And that would impact Americans.
00:09:19.020 I hope that doesn't happen.
00:09:21.080 I think if they try to shut down
00:09:22.700 those major trade routes and commerce routes,
00:09:25.360 I think we will see force to open them up
00:09:29.140 because Iran does not have the right 1.00
00:09:30.760 to shut down the ability of America
00:09:33.040 and the rest of the world
00:09:34.000 to engage in trade and commerce.
00:09:35.580 That is a possible escalation.
00:09:38.240 I think the most likely escalation
00:09:40.480 is going to be continued attacks
00:09:42.980 on civilians in Israel
00:09:44.380 because at the end of the day,
00:09:46.100 I think the Ayatollah and the Mullahs, 0.98
00:09:47.840 they hate the Jewish people. 0.99
00:09:50.320 And murdering innocent civilians 1.00
00:09:52.320 is something that they believe in.
00:09:56.060 I worry, as I said,
00:09:58.360 about the risk of terrorist attacks as well.
00:10:00.940 I think those are sadly the two most likely.
00:10:04.440 The people of Israel,
00:10:05.840 I know the government of Israel,
00:10:07.320 the Iron Dome,
00:10:08.400 they're working hard to protect their civilians.
00:10:10.540 America is assisting in that.
00:10:11.940 And here at home,
00:10:13.620 law enforcement and Homeland Security
00:10:15.780 and the Department of Justice
00:10:16.800 are all working hard
00:10:18.060 to intercept and stop
00:10:21.880 any terrorist attack before it occurs.
00:10:23.920 But understand these are dangerous times,
00:10:27.420 but they're dangerous times
00:10:28.540 because we have enemies
00:10:29.680 that wish to do harm to America. 0.55
00:10:32.160 And that's why the responsibility
00:10:33.680 that the president has
00:10:35.160 is so grave and serious.
00:10:37.200 And I will say,
00:10:38.260 listening to President Trump speak Saturday night,
00:10:40.760 I think there are times
00:10:42.220 where the weight of the job
00:10:43.560 really falls on his shoulders
00:10:46.040 and he feels it.
00:10:47.540 And I think Saturday night was one of them
00:10:49.420 because it was an incredibly consequential moment
00:10:54.100 in our nation's history
00:10:55.220 and a very positive moment
00:10:57.820 of the president standing up and saying,
00:10:59.920 my first responsibility is to defend America
00:11:02.640 and I will not shirk from that responsibility.
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00:11:44.040 Now on to story number two.
00:11:46.520 Senator, I want to play for everybody.
00:11:49.280 Pete had Seth at the Pentagon
00:11:51.400 briefing about how effective
00:11:54.480 this attack actually was
00:11:56.040 and saying it directly
00:11:57.320 to the media's face.
00:11:58.320 Take a listen.
00:11:59.720 Read some of the assessments
00:12:01.380 that have been provided
00:12:02.540 because whether it's fake news,
00:12:04.900 CNN, MSNBC or the New York Times,
00:12:09.040 there's been fawning coverage
00:12:10.620 of a preliminary assessment.
00:12:12.720 I've had a chance to read it.
00:12:13.880 Every outlet has breathlessly reported
00:12:16.920 on a preliminary assessment
00:12:18.540 from DIA.
00:12:20.420 I'm looking at it right now.
00:12:23.020 Again, it was preliminary
00:12:23.920 a day and a half
00:12:24.860 after the actual strike.
00:12:27.040 When it admits itself
00:12:28.660 in writing that it requires weeks
00:12:30.100 to accumulate the necessary data
00:12:31.580 to make such an assessment,
00:12:32.520 it's preliminary.
00:12:33.560 It points out
00:12:34.600 that it's not been coordinated
00:12:35.880 with the intelligence community
00:12:37.040 at all.
00:12:38.740 There's low confidence
00:12:39.860 in this particular report.
00:12:41.760 There's, it says in the report,
00:12:43.120 there are gaps in the information.
00:12:44.440 It says in the report,
00:12:45.920 multiple linchpin assumptions
00:12:48.140 are what this assessment,
00:12:50.240 a linchpin assumption,
00:12:51.100 you know what that is?
00:12:52.140 That means your entire premise
00:12:53.520 is predicated on a linchpin.
00:12:54.920 If you're wrong,
00:12:55.560 everything else is wrong.
00:12:57.220 And yet, still,
00:12:59.120 this report acknowledges
00:13:00.080 it's likely severe damage.
00:13:02.040 Again, this is preliminary,
00:13:03.280 but leaked because someone
00:13:05.580 had an agenda
00:13:06.120 to try to muddy the waters
00:13:07.180 and make it look like
00:13:07.820 this historic strike
00:13:09.160 wasn't successful.
00:13:10.720 I'm going to get to the chairman
00:13:11.420 in a moment
00:13:11.820 because he's going to lay out
00:13:12.820 the particulars for you
00:13:14.460 based on his professional
00:13:15.960 military experience.
00:13:16.980 But here's what other folks
00:13:17.840 are saying.
00:13:18.720 The DIA that put that report out
00:13:20.760 says that this is a preliminary
00:13:22.800 low confidence report
00:13:24.160 and will continue to be refined
00:13:25.940 as additional intelligence
00:13:27.360 becomes available.
00:13:29.260 How about the Israeli
00:13:31.280 Atomic Energy Commission?
00:13:33.240 The devastating U.S. strikes
00:13:34.560 on Fordow destroyed
00:13:36.020 the site's critical infrastructure
00:13:37.680 and rendered the enrichment
00:13:39.440 facility inoperable.
00:13:41.660 Have any of these quotes
00:13:42.640 made their way into
00:13:43.240 the New York Times
00:13:43.800 or the Washington Post?
00:13:45.700 MSNBC?
00:13:47.200 CNN?
00:13:48.520 Any of these quotes?
00:13:49.280 How about this one?
00:13:49.800 This is a new one.
00:13:50.460 From the U.N.,
00:13:51.180 the United Nations.
00:13:52.840 No friend of the United States
00:13:54.140 or certainly Israel often.
00:13:55.540 Here's the head
00:13:56.760 of the U.N.
00:13:57.760 Atomic Energy Agency
00:13:59.140 this morning.
00:14:00.440 Rafael Grossi.
00:14:02.000 U.S. and Israeli strikes
00:14:03.420 caused enormous damage
00:14:05.580 to Iran's nuclear sites.
00:14:08.560 Don't take my word for it.
00:14:09.780 How about the IDF's
00:14:10.740 chief of staff?
00:14:12.140 I can say here
00:14:12.960 that the assessment
00:14:13.660 is that we significantly
00:14:15.480 damaged the nuclear program
00:14:16.860 setting it back by years.
00:14:18.460 I repeat, years.
00:14:20.760 The Iranian foreign minister,
00:14:23.200 the spokesman,
00:14:23.880 our nuclear institutions
00:14:24.820 have been badly damaged,
00:14:26.120 that's for sure.
00:14:27.500 I'm sure that's
00:14:28.220 an understatement.
00:14:29.880 John Radcliffe,
00:14:31.180 the director of the CIA,
00:14:32.540 putting out a statement
00:14:33.340 just last night.
00:14:34.600 CIA can confirm
00:14:35.820 that a body
00:14:36.460 of credible intelligence
00:14:37.540 indicates Iran's
00:14:39.180 nuclear program
00:14:40.020 has been severely damaged
00:14:41.820 by recent targeted strikes.
00:14:44.140 This includes
00:14:44.680 new intelligence
00:14:45.320 from a historically reliable,
00:14:47.600 very different
00:14:48.260 than preliminary assessment
00:14:49.880 with low confidence.
00:14:51.800 He's saying,
00:14:52.280 historically reliable
00:14:53.480 and accurate source
00:14:54.600 and method
00:14:55.080 that several key
00:14:56.440 Iranian nuclear facilities
00:14:57.740 were destroyed
00:14:59.480 and would have to be rebuilt
00:15:02.060 over the course of years.
00:15:04.780 You listen to all of that data
00:15:06.980 and I love how he laid it out.
00:15:08.720 He's not just saying
00:15:09.680 this is from our administration.
00:15:11.680 This is from people
00:15:12.600 that hate us.
00:15:13.280 This is from the UN.
00:15:14.040 This is from Iran.
00:15:15.120 Like, how the hell
00:15:16.340 did you guys go with this report
00:15:17.780 when it's so off from reality?
00:15:19.500 Look, I think the evidence
00:15:21.660 is indisputable.
00:15:23.820 And it's worth noting,
00:15:28.400 he said,
00:15:29.520 the Secretary of Defense
00:15:30.460 said in that press conference
00:15:31.660 that the Iranian
00:15:33.480 nuclear weapons program
00:15:34.780 has been set back years.
00:15:37.460 I can tell you
00:15:38.140 I spent an hour and a half
00:15:39.280 in a classified briefing.
00:15:40.920 I can't tell you
00:15:41.720 what was in that briefing.
00:15:43.240 But we heard nothing
00:15:44.440 that was inconsistent
00:15:45.780 with what the Secretary of Defense
00:15:47.440 said in that press conference,
00:15:49.800 which is that
00:15:50.580 this military attack
00:15:52.300 set Iran's nuclear program
00:15:54.200 back years.
00:15:55.940 It was incredibly effective.
00:15:58.440 And so that is cause
00:16:00.020 for celebration,
00:16:00.720 which is why the Democrats
00:16:02.060 don't want people
00:16:02.920 to know about it.
00:16:03.560 The media don't want people
00:16:04.460 to know about it.
00:16:05.620 But I have to say,
00:16:06.820 I mentioned at the outset
00:16:07.920 of this program,
00:16:08.620 we were going to discuss
00:16:09.740 what happened.
00:16:10.380 But every bit as importantly,
00:16:12.740 we're going to discuss
00:16:13.540 what's going to happen next.
00:16:15.920 And listen,
00:16:16.360 it's one thing to talk
00:16:17.400 about where the puck is today,
00:16:19.680 but you've got to look
00:16:20.580 at where the puck
00:16:21.160 is going to be tomorrow.
00:16:23.080 And where the puck
00:16:25.020 is going to be tomorrow,
00:16:26.200 there was a CNN report
00:16:27.440 that came out this week
00:16:29.240 that said,
00:16:29.780 quote,
00:16:30.580 the Trump admin
00:16:32.000 is considering offering Iran
00:16:33.920 a series of major benefits
00:16:35.960 to bring it back
00:16:37.380 to the negotiating table.
00:16:38.640 According to the report,
00:16:41.060 Washington is considering
00:16:42.360 helping Iran 0.57
00:16:43.400 establish a nuclear program
00:16:46.360 for the purpose
00:16:47.680 of producing civilian energy
00:16:49.600 at a cost of about
00:16:51.600 $30 billion,
00:16:54.320 easing sanctions
00:16:55.360 and unfreezing billions
00:16:57.580 of frozen Iranian dollars.
00:17:00.260 And I will tell you,
00:17:01.500 within the Trump administration
00:17:02.820 right now,
00:17:03.540 there is a battle.
00:17:04.480 There are voices
00:17:05.200 within the Trump administration.
00:17:06.340 These are the voices
00:17:07.300 that opposed the strike
00:17:09.280 on Iran,
00:17:09.960 that wanted to have
00:17:11.960 weakness and appeasement
00:17:13.220 towards Iran,
00:17:14.100 who are now saying,
00:17:15.660 well,
00:17:15.820 after the strike,
00:17:16.760 after victory,
00:17:18.080 we should flow
00:17:19.760 billions of dollars
00:17:21.100 to Iran.
00:17:21.960 We should let them
00:17:22.800 sell oil,
00:17:23.980 let them sell oil
00:17:24.900 to China.
00:17:25.740 We should let them
00:17:26.620 make billions.
00:17:27.880 And I got to tell you,
00:17:28.840 this is the same
00:17:29.800 failed approach
00:17:30.920 of Barack Obama
00:17:32.580 and Joe Biden.
00:17:34.040 we should,
00:17:35.700 under no circumstances,
00:17:37.220 allow the Ayatollah 0.99
00:17:38.660 who chants death 0.99
00:17:40.120 to America,
00:17:40.800 who has been actively
00:17:42.380 trying to murder
00:17:43.320 President Trump. 0.56
00:17:44.280 We should not let him
00:17:45.260 win a windfall
00:17:46.380 and get billions
00:17:48.080 of dollars to use
00:17:49.540 to wage war
00:17:50.340 against America.
00:17:51.460 How did we even
00:17:52.480 get to this point
00:17:53.500 where this was
00:17:54.480 a real possibility?
00:17:55.800 Where is this coming from?
00:17:57.740 Because it is shocking.
00:17:58.960 Like you said,
00:17:59.640 you don't want to do
00:18:00.100 the same thing
00:18:00.600 that was a failure
00:18:01.260 with the last administrations
00:18:03.620 where they're like,
00:18:04.180 hey,
00:18:04.460 here's billions of dollars,
00:18:05.800 we'll put it on a plane
00:18:06.660 and here's a bunch
00:18:08.020 of American money,
00:18:09.080 have a great day.
00:18:11.140 Listen,
00:18:11.680 there are voices
00:18:12.120 in the Republican Party
00:18:13.200 who have decided
00:18:14.020 to embrace isolationism,
00:18:15.880 who have decided
00:18:16.680 to say we should
00:18:17.740 withdraw from the world.
00:18:19.340 You and I talked
00:18:20.000 previously on this podcast
00:18:21.120 about the interview
00:18:21.960 I did with Tucker Carlson.
00:18:24.200 I knew what that
00:18:25.120 was going to be.
00:18:25.840 I knew when I accepted
00:18:26.920 that interview
00:18:27.520 that Tucker was coming
00:18:28.460 after me,
00:18:29.040 that he was going
00:18:29.520 to do everything he can
00:18:30.780 to blast me.
00:18:32.220 And he and I spent
00:18:33.020 two hours.
00:18:34.000 It was a bloodbath.
00:18:36.900 We were pounding
00:18:37.560 the hell out of each other.
00:18:39.200 But every single thing
00:18:40.940 Tucker said about Iran
00:18:42.080 and Israel proved wrong.
00:18:43.520 Tucker said publicly,
00:18:45.000 if America strikes Iran,
00:18:48.600 we would be dragged
00:18:49.720 into World War III.
00:18:51.280 Thousands of Americans
00:18:52.380 would be killed.
00:18:53.480 And in World War III,
00:18:54.880 we would lose.
00:18:56.640 Now, Ben,
00:18:57.160 that wasn't slightly wrong.
00:18:58.560 It wasn't a little bit wrong.
00:18:59.700 It was totally,
00:19:01.000 catastrophically,
00:19:01.960 utterly false.
00:19:03.500 Tucker also argued
00:19:04.520 with me at great length.
00:19:06.140 It's not true
00:19:07.140 that Iran is trying 0.99
00:19:08.720 to murder Donald J. Trump. 0.58
00:19:11.340 Well, you know, 0.98
00:19:13.220 it's one thing
00:19:13.820 if you're a talk show host
00:19:15.640 and you can just kind of
00:19:16.520 yell into the microphone
00:19:17.480 and ignore facts.
00:19:19.260 But facts matter.
00:19:20.640 The truth matters.
00:19:22.160 It is an objective fact
00:19:24.100 that Iran has been 0.89
00:19:26.440 trying to murder
00:19:27.220 Donald J. Trump, 0.96
00:19:28.160 has been trying 0.99
00:19:28.740 to murder him
00:19:29.360 for several years.
00:19:31.200 And I pointed this out
00:19:32.280 in the interview.
00:19:32.720 I put it out afterwards.
00:19:33.700 I put out
00:19:34.280 the sealed indictment
00:19:36.300 from the Department of Justice
00:19:37.540 indicting Iranian hitmen
00:19:39.200 who were here
00:19:39.980 in the United States
00:19:40.760 trying to murder 0.96
00:19:41.520 Donald J. Trump. 0.94
00:19:42.880 I put out video
00:19:44.460 of President Trump
00:19:45.400 talking about
00:19:46.220 the Iranians 0.96
00:19:46.860 trying to murder him. 0.65
00:19:47.700 I put out video
00:19:48.600 of senior Iranian leaders
00:19:50.500 talking about
00:19:51.360 their intention 0.99
00:19:52.540 to murder Donald Trump. 0.81
00:19:53.840 I put out a video 0.98
00:19:55.380 that the IRGC put out,
00:19:57.380 an animated video
00:19:58.560 of an Iranian drone
00:20:00.380 murdering Donald Trump
00:20:02.200 on the golf course 0.96
00:20:03.480 at Mar-a-Lago.
00:20:04.540 And it is an objective fact.
00:20:06.900 And this is where,
00:20:08.080 again,
00:20:08.480 the sort of
00:20:09.220 isolationist rhetoric
00:20:10.260 is weird.
00:20:10.860 Because when I said
00:20:12.720 that Iran was trying 0.98
00:20:13.780 to murder
00:20:14.200 President Trump 0.96
00:20:15.460 and Tucker said,
00:20:16.920 I've never heard that.
00:20:18.480 And then he did
00:20:18.960 his kind of weird,
00:20:20.040 high-pitched cackle.
00:20:21.640 He then came back
00:20:23.960 with this bizarre statement.
00:20:26.260 Well, if that were true
00:20:28.000 that Iran were trying 0.99
00:20:29.080 to murder Donald J. Trump,
00:20:30.660 well, then we should 1.00
00:20:31.500 attack them immediately. 1.00
00:20:32.560 We should nuke them. 1.00
00:20:34.480 And I got to say, 0.99
00:20:35.620 I kind of wondered
00:20:36.380 if like Tucker Carlson's
00:20:38.080 old neocon,
00:20:39.580 to be clear,
00:20:40.240 Tucker Carlson was someone
00:20:41.480 who during the Iraq War
00:20:43.380 was a cheerleader
00:20:45.400 for the Iraq War.
00:20:46.420 He basically put on
00:20:47.340 a short skirt
00:20:48.020 and pom-poms.
00:20:49.620 I think the Iraq War 0.98
00:20:50.640 was a mistake.
00:20:51.420 I've been vocal
00:20:51.960 about that for years.
00:20:53.760 Tucker cheered it on.
00:20:55.440 It is loopy.
00:20:56.820 It is Froot Loops
00:20:57.980 to say you should
00:20:59.540 nuke Iran 0.98
00:21:00.360 because they're doing that.
00:21:01.640 No, the right thing
00:21:02.560 to do is what
00:21:03.740 President Trump did,
00:21:04.820 which is take out
00:21:05.720 their nuclear weapons
00:21:06.780 capability.
00:21:08.280 And I got to say,
00:21:10.900 Tucker's voice
00:21:11.760 and their allies
00:21:12.760 of Tucker
00:21:13.280 in the administration
00:21:14.300 who were desperately
00:21:16.280 trying to convince
00:21:17.240 the president,
00:21:18.500 do not attack
00:21:19.560 Iran,
00:21:20.720 do not take out
00:21:21.400 their nuclear weapons
00:21:22.160 capability,
00:21:22.840 do not support Israel,
00:21:24.320 abandon Israel. 0.86
00:21:25.940 They were wrong
00:21:26.820 and they lost this battle
00:21:28.460 but the second iteration
00:21:29.740 and this is coming
00:21:30.700 is they're now saying,
00:21:33.840 okay,
00:21:34.780 now that you've won,
00:21:36.220 give the Ayatollah 0.92
00:21:37.320 billions of dollars
00:21:38.360 because it works out
00:21:39.200 really well
00:21:39.740 when you give billions
00:21:41.000 of dollars 1.00
00:21:41.460 to a theocratic lunatic 1.00
00:21:42.700 who says they want 1.00
00:21:43.780 to murder you 0.55
00:21:44.500 and is still actively 1.00
00:21:45.840 trying to murder you. 1.00
00:21:46.840 That is incredibly foolish 1.00
00:21:48.740 and so I'm urging 1.00
00:21:50.800 the president,
00:21:51.700 don't listen
00:21:52.380 to those voices.
00:21:53.380 They were wrong before
00:21:54.400 and they're wrong now.
00:21:56.160 Do not send billions
00:21:57.620 of dollars
00:21:58.180 to the Ayatollah.
00:21:59.420 As before,
00:22:00.500 if you want to hear
00:22:01.180 the rest of this conversation
00:22:02.400 on this topic,
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00:22:39.540 I want to get back
00:22:40.760 to the big story
00:22:41.960 number three of the week
00:22:42.900 you may have missed.
00:22:43.660 Where things are going now
00:22:45.740 and how we could
00:22:47.480 screw up the endgame
00:22:49.120 here with Iran 0.97
00:22:49.980 with some in this country
00:22:51.800 saying,
00:22:52.380 well,
00:22:52.520 maybe we should appease
00:22:53.500 them a little bit.
00:22:54.460 Doesn't make a lot of sense.
00:22:56.180 Yet that's where we are.
00:22:57.520 And Senator,
00:22:57.960 you had this to say
00:22:58.900 on Hannity's show
00:22:59.780 about as well.
00:23:01.060 Something else, Sean.
00:23:02.640 There are voices
00:23:03.800 in the administration
00:23:04.660 now that the president
00:23:06.080 has scored
00:23:06.660 an historic victory
00:23:07.740 who are urging,
00:23:09.520 let's cut a deal,
00:23:10.340 let's let Iran sell oils, 0.98
00:23:11.820 let's lift all the sanctions,
00:23:12.960 let's make this a victory
00:23:14.740 for the Ayatollah.
00:23:16.240 Understand this,
00:23:17.320 Ayatollah still hates America, 0.75
00:23:18.980 he chanced death to America, 0.90
00:23:20.380 and he's been trying 0.88
00:23:21.340 to murder Donald Trump. 0.75
00:23:23.080 And so, 0.99
00:23:23.760 it would be a catastrophic mistake
00:23:25.800 to flood billions of dollars
00:23:27.620 into Iran.
00:23:29.420 I agree with you.
00:23:31.040 What if they use a proxy
00:23:32.520 to attack Israel?
00:23:33.620 Does that end the ceasefire?
00:23:34.780 Because I would imagine
00:23:35.620 that's the next plan.
00:23:38.040 Real quick.
00:23:38.540 You know,
00:23:39.500 I will tell you
00:23:40.120 one of the best indications
00:23:41.400 of how successful
00:23:42.260 this attack was,
00:23:43.600 within hours,
00:23:44.700 Iran was rushing 0.67
00:23:45.840 to have a ceasefire.
00:23:47.020 That's because
00:23:47.620 they are utterly decimated
00:23:49.320 and weakened,
00:23:49.980 and that's why
00:23:50.440 they wanted a ceasefire.
00:23:51.880 But don't think
00:23:52.780 for a minute
00:23:53.280 they suddenly love America
00:23:54.700 or love Israel.
00:23:55.560 They still hate us.
00:23:56.820 They are still our enemy,
00:23:57.820 but we have taken away
00:23:59.240 their ability
00:23:59.820 to murder Americans. 0.97
00:24:01.180 If they use a proxy 0.98
00:24:02.460 to attack Israel, 0.51
00:24:04.120 are they to blame?
00:24:04.760 Of course they are.
00:24:07.980 The proxies,
00:24:08.720 Hezbollah and Hamas, 0.93
00:24:09.980 work for Iran.
00:24:11.260 They pay for them
00:24:12.080 and they control them.
00:24:13.980 All right,
00:24:14.340 Senator Ted Cruz,
00:24:15.220 we always appreciate
00:24:15.920 your time, Senator.
00:24:16.800 Thank you.
00:24:17.580 Strong close there, Senator,
00:24:19.060 and it's the truth.
00:24:20.400 This is what people
00:24:21.280 are trying to do now.
00:24:23.600 It absolutely is,
00:24:24.840 and I'll tell you
00:24:25.320 one point that I made
00:24:26.220 on Hannity
00:24:26.680 that I think is powerful.
00:24:28.400 We started this show
00:24:29.760 by talking about
00:24:30.640 how the Democrats
00:24:31.600 and the media
00:24:32.060 are trying to claim
00:24:32.920 the attack
00:24:33.900 was not effective.
00:24:35.760 If that were true,
00:24:37.740 why did Iran 1.00
00:24:39.080 immediately want
00:24:40.640 a ceasefire?
00:24:42.360 Look, Iran has been 1.00
00:24:43.560 at war with Israel
00:24:44.840 for years.
00:24:45.700 They have been
00:24:46.040 lobbying missiles.
00:24:47.220 They have been
00:24:47.780 funding Hamas
00:24:48.660 and Hezbollah.
00:24:49.300 Understand,
00:24:50.340 Hamas,
00:24:51.160 more than 90%
00:24:52.420 of Hamas' budget
00:24:53.440 comes from Iran.
00:24:54.860 Hezbollah,
00:24:55.740 more than 90%
00:24:57.060 of Hezbollah's budget
00:24:58.020 comes from Iran.
00:24:59.860 Iran,
00:25:00.520 when the Ayatollah 0.78
00:25:01.280 chants death to America 0.89
00:25:02.460 and death to Israel, 1.00
00:25:03.260 he means it. 1.00
00:25:04.540 They have spent
00:25:05.180 millions and millions
00:25:06.240 of dollars.
00:25:06.880 They have killed
00:25:07.380 thousands of American
00:25:09.080 servicemen and women.
00:25:10.280 They have been
00:25:10.600 the leading state
00:25:11.320 sponsor of terrorism
00:25:12.400 for decades.
00:25:14.820 And after this,
00:25:16.600 look,
00:25:17.100 Iran has had 0.99
00:25:17.720 a really rough year.
00:25:18.760 October 7th,
00:25:19.640 they funded October 7th,
00:25:21.600 and since October 7th,
00:25:23.220 Hamas has been 0.98
00:25:23.920 utterly decimated.
00:25:24.960 Hezbollah has been 0.96
00:25:26.060 utterly decimated.
00:25:27.180 Bashar Assad,
00:25:28.040 who was their puppet
00:25:28.680 leader in Syria,
00:25:30.120 he has fallen.
00:25:31.020 The Houthis, 0.95
00:25:31.840 who they were funding,
00:25:32.980 who were attacking
00:25:33.740 American ships
00:25:34.640 and shipping through
00:25:35.340 the Suez Canal,
00:25:36.680 they are badly degraded.
00:25:38.300 And now,
00:25:39.860 Iran,
00:25:40.540 when they were on the verge
00:25:41.560 of acquiring nuclear weapons,
00:25:42.880 look,
00:25:43.260 if you're the Ayatollah 0.93
00:25:44.380 and you're weak
00:25:45.160 and you're collapsing, 0.99
00:25:46.540 getting a nuclear weapon
00:25:47.680 is your Hail Mary.
00:25:48.660 It's the one chance
00:25:49.520 to say,
00:25:49.900 okay,
00:25:50.340 we're relevant,
00:25:51.460 we're strong,
00:25:52.200 and then Israel
00:25:53.220 devastatingly takes out
00:25:55.800 their military capability,
00:25:57.860 their air defenses.
00:25:58.820 Because the entire course
00:26:00.800 of this war,
00:26:01.380 the 12-day war,
00:26:03.000 Iran had no control 1.00
00:26:04.260 over their air defenses.
00:26:05.320 Israel had total superiority 1.00
00:26:06.780 than the United States
00:26:07.780 when we went in
00:26:08.380 and did our bombing run.
00:26:10.020 Iran could not 1.00
00:26:10.960 defend themselves,
00:26:12.240 and then America comes in.
00:26:14.560 I think Iran believed 0.96
00:26:15.700 they could talk,
00:26:16.540 talk,
00:26:16.800 talk,
00:26:17.100 and avoid
00:26:18.100 any real consequences.
00:26:19.340 I think they felt
00:26:19.980 that Forda was deep enough
00:26:21.280 under a mountain,
00:26:21.880 there was nothing
00:26:22.320 they could do about it,
00:26:23.580 and that America
00:26:24.580 would never use
00:26:26.000 bunker buster bombs
00:26:26.980 against them.
00:26:27.440 And by the way,
00:26:28.520 Joe Biden never would have.
00:26:29.700 The Democrats never would have.
00:26:31.260 But Donald J. Trump,
00:26:32.520 he's not an isolationist,
00:26:33.780 he's not weak,
00:26:35.320 he's not interested
00:26:36.260 in a prolonged war.
00:26:37.680 Note,
00:26:38.000 we did not invade Iran,
00:26:39.460 we did not send boots
00:26:40.440 on the ground,
00:26:41.400 we're not going there
00:26:42.500 trying to turn them
00:26:43.400 into a democratic utopia,
00:26:44.760 we're not trying to turn
00:26:45.520 them into Switzerland.
00:26:47.180 The objective of the mission
00:26:49.080 was very,
00:26:49.940 very focused.
00:26:51.380 It was to stop Iran 1.00
00:26:53.100 from having nuclear weapons capability.
00:26:55.300 And by the way,
00:26:55.740 the reason I went
00:26:57.500 on Tucker Carlson
00:26:58.520 just a week ago
00:26:59.400 was to make clear
00:27:01.080 that President Trump
00:27:02.400 is right
00:27:03.240 and Tucker Carlson
00:27:04.900 was wrong.
00:27:05.640 And I think,
00:27:06.640 I was unhappy
00:27:08.140 with Tucker
00:27:08.620 because he's been
00:27:09.240 attacking President Trump.
00:27:11.220 He said that
00:27:12.100 President Trump
00:27:12.740 was complicit
00:27:13.820 in the attack
00:27:15.600 on Iran.
00:27:16.340 He claimed,
00:27:17.520 amazingly enough,
00:27:19.240 that Donald Trump
00:27:20.260 was not America first,
00:27:22.160 that if you attack Iran,
00:27:24.080 you're not America first.
00:27:25.760 And President Trump
00:27:26.500 quite rightly came back
00:27:27.540 and said,
00:27:27.880 look, 0.99
00:27:28.500 I invented the damn term 1.00
00:27:30.220 and what I say 1.00
00:27:32.620 is what America first is.
00:27:34.520 And he said to Tucker,
00:27:35.900 he said,
00:27:36.400 look,
00:27:36.600 if you want Iran 0.90
00:27:37.440 to have a nuclear weapon,
00:27:38.620 that ain't America first 0.99
00:27:39.860 because these lunatics 1.00
00:27:40.960 want to kill us. 1.00
00:27:42.740 President Trump 1.00
00:27:43.380 is exactly right.
00:27:45.800 And this has been,
00:27:47.360 I'll tell you,
00:27:48.220 I texted him this week
00:27:49.520 and I told him,
00:27:50.940 Mr. President,
00:27:52.560 this past week
00:27:53.920 has been the single
00:27:55.660 finest leadership
00:27:56.960 you have had
00:27:58.440 the entire time
00:27:59.540 and I'm incredibly proud
00:28:01.240 of the job
00:28:02.260 you're doing
00:28:02.600 as Commander-in-Chief.
00:28:04.040 You know,
00:28:04.760 one of the compare
00:28:05.440 and contrasts
00:28:06.200 that you talk about
00:28:07.080 with this administration
00:28:08.520 in the past
00:28:09.360 was brought up
00:28:10.120 at the White House
00:28:10.600 press briefing room.
00:28:12.300 Carolyn Levitt,
00:28:13.120 I think,
00:28:13.540 did a great job
00:28:14.500 of explaining
00:28:15.100 the difference
00:28:15.940 very much like
00:28:17.060 you just described it.
00:28:17.980 and here's what she said
00:28:19.340 to the press
00:28:19.960 about the real story here.
00:28:21.900 The Iranian regime 0.51
00:28:22.820 was weeks away
00:28:23.900 from being able
00:28:24.600 to produce
00:28:25.100 a nuclear weapon
00:28:26.020 that would threaten
00:28:26.740 the entire world
00:28:27.800 before President Trump
00:28:29.340 took this decisive action
00:28:31.000 on Saturday night
00:28:31.900 to obliterate
00:28:32.760 their nuclear capabilities.
00:28:35.000 The contrast
00:28:35.720 in leadership
00:28:36.340 could not be more clear.
00:28:38.120 Barack Obama
00:28:38.780 and Joe Biden
00:28:39.540 sent pallets of cash,
00:28:41.480 American taxpayer dollars,
00:28:43.400 in a failed attempt
00:28:44.280 to buy the Iranian regime's
00:28:45.880 compliance
00:28:46.300 with a weak
00:28:47.120 and ineffective deal.
00:28:49.220 President Trump
00:28:50.000 sent a fleet
00:28:50.940 of American warplanes
00:28:52.220 to destroy Iran's ability 0.97
00:28:53.940 to produce
00:28:54.620 a nuclear weapon.
00:28:56.160 The United States
00:28:57.040 and the entire world
00:28:58.040 are safer
00:28:58.760 because of this
00:28:59.600 president's decisiveness.
00:29:01.560 Despite agenda-driven leaks
00:29:03.260 by the fake news media
00:29:04.640 aimed at undermining
00:29:06.100 this incredible accomplishment
00:29:07.460 achieved by President Trump
00:29:08.840 and our brave fighter pilots,
00:29:10.900 there is broad consensus
00:29:12.140 emerging already
00:29:13.180 that Iran's nuclear capabilities
00:29:15.400 were indeed destroyed.
00:29:17.800 The United States,
00:29:19.060 Israel,
00:29:19.660 the United Nations,
00:29:20.500 and even Iran
00:29:21.400 all agree
00:29:22.140 they can no longer build
00:29:23.820 a nuclear weapon.
00:29:25.500 So why did the president
00:29:27.740 immediately turn
00:29:28.620 to obliterating
00:29:29.460 after the Iranian nuclear threat?
00:29:32.120 Securing peace.
00:29:33.340 Within 48 hours
00:29:34.900 of the devastating strike,
00:29:36.600 President Trump
00:29:37.180 and his team
00:29:37.800 brokered a historic ceasefire
00:29:39.380 between Israel and Iran
00:29:41.120 and officially ended
00:29:42.560 the 12-day war.
00:29:44.380 The Middle East
00:29:45.180 is now shifting away
00:29:46.500 from chaos and bloodshed
00:29:47.940 and moving toward
00:29:48.640 the beginning stages
00:29:49.640 of a new era
00:29:50.820 of peace and stability
00:29:52.620 that President Trump
00:29:53.920 has long called on them
00:29:55.060 to achieve.
00:29:56.180 This was unthinkable
00:29:57.140 at this time last week.
00:29:59.120 And this is what
00:29:59.740 peace through strength
00:30:00.660 looks like.
00:30:01.780 I mean,
00:30:02.880 it's just laying it out
00:30:04.240 right to their faces, right?
00:30:05.660 This is what the president said.
00:30:07.760 This is what he believed.
00:30:08.780 This is what he was going to do.
00:30:10.320 We're not back down.
00:30:10.980 And she also said something else
00:30:12.380 that also the DOD
00:30:13.720 said several different ways.
00:30:17.100 How dare you not
00:30:18.420 just give some accolades
00:30:20.660 to the men and women
00:30:21.300 that risked their lives
00:30:22.060 to pull this off
00:30:22.820 and did it flawlessly?
00:30:24.920 Look,
00:30:25.560 peace through strength
00:30:26.560 is exactly what this is.
00:30:28.280 And the left,
00:30:29.140 they have a bizarre view
00:30:30.720 that weakness and appeasement
00:30:32.940 somehow avoids war.
00:30:34.700 Listen,
00:30:35.080 if you look through history,
00:30:36.800 the opposite is true.
00:30:38.860 Weakness and appeasement
00:30:40.120 encourages our enemies.
00:30:41.860 They engage in more hostilities.
00:30:43.880 You get more war.
00:30:45.180 I have joked,
00:30:46.200 but there is a reason
00:30:47.480 nobody goes and studies
00:30:49.160 at the Neville Chamberlain
00:30:50.980 School of Foreign Affairs.
00:30:53.660 Appeasement doesn't work.
00:30:56.340 Donald J. Trump
00:30:57.240 is a strong commander-in-chief,
00:30:58.980 just like Ronald Reagan was.
00:31:00.700 And I'll tell you,
00:31:01.540 your family and my family,
00:31:02.960 all of our families,
00:31:03.780 are safer
00:31:04.440 because President Trump
00:31:05.980 acted decisively
00:31:07.000 to take out
00:31:07.800 Iran's nuclear weapons capability.
00:31:10.000 As always,
00:31:11.380 thank you for listening
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