On today's show, we discuss the latest on the Iran nuclear deal, a potential strike on the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC) by the United States, and the new statue of President Trump in Venezuela. We also discuss the continued impact illegal immigrants are having on the streets of America and the need to stop it.
00:00:27.56033, I do understand why people ask questions that are very specific in terms of military strategy.
00:00:35.820I also love that Trump every time is like, why in the world would I tell you any of this?
00:00:40.760Yeah, the reporters are like, sir, are you going to launch a stealth attack on this member of the IRGC tomorrow at his house in the mountains?
00:00:48.320Like, probably not going to let you know.
00:00:51.82033, here is that version of that question that was just asked in the cabinet meeting.
00:00:57.560Mr. President, are you going to go in for the uranium?
00:16:42.500and newsmakers all at different stages of their journey so if you're looking to connect then we
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00:16:52.420to your podcasts second hour of clay and buck kicks off now we're joined by our friend alex
00:16:58.300berenson unreported truths is his very successful sub stack which i would recommend you all go
00:17:04.520subscribe to where he does independent journalism independent analysis and reporting uh alex great
00:17:11.340to have you back on the program that the uh the title of your piece that we wanted to have you
00:17:16.120on to talk about from a couple days ago the most enraging piece you will read this year
00:17:21.480um i would i would caveat maybe given what we're talking about today some of these stories
00:17:26.340among the most enraging definitely top of but but but it it definitely emphasizes something
00:17:33.520that is very real that people are starting to catch on to in larger and larger numbers and that
00:17:38.760is democrat policies on crime are insane i mean they're they're putting people at risk terrible
00:17:47.320things keep happening that are preventable tell everybody this story out of seattle what's going
00:17:53.260on here because it ties right into our conversations about these illegals that have killed people
00:17:57.440recently yes so so this this gentleman was not an illegal i think he's actually a washington
00:18:03.240uh sure sure yeah and um and he uh in 2024 he he um attacked an 80 year old woman he he was 48 at
00:18:15.140the time he was trying to carjack her he pulled her out of her car actually there were people
00:18:19.280around who tried to stop him um and one of whom i think actually tried to get a bat and go after him
00:18:25.460um but the but they weren't able to stop him and he sort of threw the woman against the car
00:18:32.600a nearby car and then backed into her and crushed her and killed her um and then drove off in the
00:18:40.440car and uh uh she was a dog walker even though she was 80 she had a dog walking business it was
00:18:47.100actually going to the dog park with her own dog and shortly thereafter people at a park in seattle
00:18:54.160called uh animal control or or i don't know if they called animal control the police but they
00:18:59.240called someone and said, there's somebody harming a dog. It turned out this gentleman was stabbing
00:19:03.480this dog that he had taken in this car to death. He threw the dog away. This was, you know, this
00:19:08.940was not exactly the crime of the century from a, from a, you know, smart criminal point of view.
00:19:13.720He left his fingerprints. The police found him, you know, less than 24 hours later. He still had
00:19:19.780the car keys with him. No one is disputing, you know, normally I'm pretty careful when I say
00:19:24.600alleged, but nobody's really disputing that he did this. So what happened then is, so this guy
00:19:29.580has a long history of crime. He's an eight-time convicted felon, and in fact was eligible for
00:19:36.540the three strikes program that Washington had, which would have left him in jail for the rest
00:19:41.520of his life, but ultimately in a crime about 15 years ago pled to something that did eventually
00:19:49.060get him out. So what his defense team is claiming is that he's incompetent. And the situation is
00:19:57.860that you have to be able to participate meaningfully in your own defense, which is
00:20:02.320reasonable, okay? If you're too insane even to, you know, know what's going on, there can't really
00:20:09.220be a trial. So the judge restored, you know, ordered that he be given, you know, psychiatric
00:20:15.360medicine to be restored to competency. And he was restored to competency. So that should pave
00:20:20.760the way for the trial to begin, except he was then discharged or moved, I shouldn't say discharged,
00:20:26.540but moved back from the forensic hospital where he was to jail and essentially stopped taking his
00:20:32.100medicine and so became incompetent again or claimed to be incompetent again, right? There's
00:20:37.280some question as to whether he's malingering, whether he's actually pretending to be incompetent
00:20:42.400or not. And, you know, so I wrote about this because there was actually a second case that
00:20:48.440got a lot of attention in Seattle, a 2023 murder where a man walked up to a woman,
00:20:56.000a pregnant woman whose car was stopped and just shot her six times, killed her, walked away.
00:21:02.900Now, that guy was then just last week allowed to plead not guilty by reason of insanity.
00:21:09.120And it seems pretty clear that in that case, the guy actually is not competent.
00:21:14.940You know, we can't argue about whether there should be some kind of verdict of guilty but insane where he would go to a forensic hospital and then go to jail for the rest of his life.
00:21:23.320I think that makes sense. But this case to me is even worse.
00:21:26.720It's even more upsetting and infuriating because this guy who did this, this 48 year old who killed the dog walker in 2024, has a long criminal record.
00:21:37.640He actually has another conviction for driving under the influence and killing somebody.
00:21:43.400So this idea that he's actually too mentally ill to participate in his trial, he knew exactly what he was doing when he carjacked that car.
00:21:51.340He tried he tried to escape. Right. So. So, you know, you and I have talked in the past about crimes that are committed under the influence of psychosis.
00:22:00.340It might be drug induced psychosis. Those have a certain look to them.
00:22:03.680This case looks more just like a carjacking. Can I just jump in, Alex?
00:22:07.640And now the guy is manipulating his system.
00:22:35.660He can be because he was found not guilty by reason of insanity. Now, again, in that. And that's what I think we should have. We should introduce into our system a guilty but insane verdict where if you are found, you know, essentially not guilty by reason of insanity, but there's no question you committed the crime.
00:22:52.680If at some point you're restored to competency, you then go to jail and you serve the crime.
00:22:58.320But that's not the system that we have.
00:23:00.120We have a system where if you were judged insane at the time of the crime, you don't bear responsibility.
00:23:09.980Again, to me, this other case is worse because I do think that there's a good chance that this guy's malingering.
00:23:16.600Okay, so let's dive in here because we've got positive overall crime trend lines.
00:23:23.520We've got a lot of people being arrested and put in jail.
00:23:27.860Let's pretend, Alex, that we said, hey, we want to have an actual war on murder, right?
00:23:34.800And it seems to some extent that that's what's happened in Washington, D.C.
00:23:38.640It's gotten way safer for everybody else.
00:23:40.420don't we basically know everybody who's going to commit a murder in the context of uh you know
00:23:47.340it's it's not very very often that somebody goes from completely law-abiding to murder right that
00:23:54.700that does occur very very rarely but almost always if you ask cops they would say yeah we know the
00:23:59.840300 people in our city who are the most likely to commit murders can't we just lock those guys up
00:24:05.320and actually keep them in prison when they're arrested as they always are for other offenses
00:24:10.100so so i mean can we log them up for nothing no no i'm saying that these people are all
00:24:16.620always arrested almost 100 people who commit murder have long rap sheets before they are
00:24:23.240convicted of a murder so so there i mean there is this is like a really interesting discussion
00:24:28.320and unfortunately i've got to run to a tsa checkpoint in the near future so i i can't
00:24:33.500have it with you for a long time but so yes crime certainly murders are going down in the u.s right
00:24:38.820There's been a long trend on this, yet people's perceptions of public safety and certainly in cities like Seattle and New York are not improving.
00:24:48.100And why that is, I think, is so a lot of crime, most crime is committed by the people you're talking about.
00:24:54.280Right. And oftentimes in the 80s in particular, it was drug dealing related crime.
00:24:59.540Right. So what's happened? Well, actually, there's nobody working the corners anymore.
00:25:04.040A lot of when drugs are bought, often they're bought off Snapchat, they're bought off, you know, your phone.
00:25:10.480And so, like, there's not actually territorial wars anymore.
00:25:13.460So that's really helped the cops. Right. Plus, they have spot shot or they have lots of good investigative techniques that they didn't used to have.
00:25:20.640So why are people more scared? Because the kind of crime that I just mentioned to you that we've been talking about.
00:25:26.340Right. Walking up to somebody in the street who's a true innocent, who doesn't have any, you know, isn't out there to buy drugs.
00:25:33.480Right. Those are the crimes that scare people. And, you know, they scare women, people who, you know, who don't expect to be a victim of violent crime and who, quote unquote, shouldn't be a victim of violent crime.
00:25:47.400And to me, that's where we've got to focus our energy. And, you know, the number one way to do that is to get sort of drug addicted homeless people who are who are having psychosis off the streets.
00:25:58.460and i favor you know the trump administration has moved in this direction and i think they
00:26:02.540should continue to do this civil commitment policies that will get these folks off the
00:26:06.640streets alex berenson unreported truths alex good luck at the airport buddy thanks for calling in
00:26:12.380before you run thanks guys yeah go to it i hope you're i hope you're six hours early uh anyway
00:26:18.660uh or whatever crazy things are saying for new york city these days clay can we can i just want
00:26:23.500to address this follow-up on what alex is saying um this is so important when we look at crime
00:26:29.160people ask me about what crime was like in new york city when i was growing up there because
00:26:32.400this is the huge turnaround case story that everyone always cites for a city 2200 murders
00:26:37.760in 1990 1991 okay 2200 murders huge amount of murders now there was a lot of decay and disorder
00:26:43.820graffiti and bad things going on but a huge majority of those murders were still happening
00:26:50.360in high crime areas right there more stuff would bleed over the city was less safe no question
00:26:55.680bad guys shooting each other when you look at chicago why is it that rich democrats who live
00:27:02.780in what isn't like lincoln park a really nice area i don't know chicago well is that a fancy
00:27:06.580area i think so the north side of chicago is very nice wherever the wherever the fancy rich people
00:27:11.820in chicago live why aren't they all voting republican because all the shootings are
00:27:16.620happening in the south and the west side for the most part but what you see because of democrats
00:27:21.180refusal to deal with these essentially drug addicted and or severely psychiatric unstable
00:27:27.600repeat criminals is people being stabbed in broad daylight with their dog in a park
00:27:32.640in a nice area someone on on 63rd street subway in new york city a man being thrown on the subway
00:27:39.100tracks by a career criminal a felon in that case an illegal alien too those hit people differently
00:27:45.440this isn't about drug dealers shooting drug dealers in uh you know inner city that doesn't
00:27:51.540even that those those murders don't make news right still to this day to your point i think
00:27:56.380that's important i think what alex is saying too and what would be interesting is while we may be
00:28:01.300at a low in murders overall are people who are 100 innocent being killed at high rates that that's a
00:28:09.700really fascinating question to go into right because if you're engaging in criminal behavior
00:28:14.980I still hope you don't get killed, but if criminals are shooting at each other, to Buck's point, when there are 2,200 murders going on and most of the people getting killed are those individuals, it is different and it does hit people differently than an 83-year-old veteran like what just happened in Manhattan, Richard Williams, or this young 18-year-old college girl who just goes to a park and gets murdered while she's there by an illegal immigrant.
00:28:40.560Both of these people killed by illegal immigrants.
00:28:42.540I also come back to Buck, and this is where I think you really have to push back aggressively
00:28:46.340because they'll say, well, I don't know why you're focusing on immigrant crime.
00:28:50.700Again, my answer is because it should be zero.
00:28:53.140I wish we had a zero crime rate for American citizens.
00:28:56.340But when you come here illegally, you should have never been allowed in this country.
00:29:00.840You should have never been permitted to commit a crime.
00:30:26.160The pit bull owners are going to get ticked off at me
00:30:31.020yeah pitbull is the most violent dog but no i mean look if you have a violent but the way that
00:30:36.360i would put it is if you have a violent predator that you know is a violent predator and we'll
00:30:41.100make it a presa canario clay we'll get with something that's not going to upset everybody
00:30:44.600those are huge very strong dogs okay a presa canar but you see the analogy it's the same
00:30:49.680analogy yeah no it's it's 100 right and again it comes back to the question i was asking alex which
00:30:54.980is and you know this from your time working with the nypd jointly we know who is going to commit
00:31:01.920murders at this point it is very very rare that someone has a completely clean criminal background
00:31:08.260and just kills a completely innocent person does it happen every now and then yes so rarely the
00:31:14.460murder rate would be basically non-existent if we just kept violent people off the street every
00:31:19.580and this is where unfortunately libertarians you have been a scourge on this issue i'm just going
00:31:23.720to say it out loud the libertarian uh industrial complex with their three strikes laws people are
00:31:28.940going to prison forever for stealing a pair of socks no we actually need three strikes laws we
00:31:33.800just need them to be for serious felonies okay no one's saying you go to prison forever for
00:31:38.320jaywalking but you do three class a or you know class one felonies three every state that thinks
00:31:45.620that it's serious about some of you by the way are like that's even too but let's start there
00:31:48.940three three serious felonies you go away for 20 three serious felonies you go you know not a lot
00:31:55.440of people are worried about what happens to people you know when they come out in their 50s and 60s
00:31:58.680okay why not have that why not have that law no you know there's really a criminal justice
00:32:06.140conversation is one democrats have nothing they have nothing to add to this other than just letting
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00:33:30.560buck sexton show um let's go into the guy that i never would have believed would become the most
00:33:38.080sane democrat in the country but he is john fetterman and this is pretty awful this was a
00:33:44.460uh pro iran and hamas protest that happened in philadelphia and i want you to listen to
00:33:53.500what was being chanted uh this is cut 32 this happened in philadelphia
00:33:59.280until we have done everything in our power to bring the united states to its knees let us not
00:34:05.640lose sight of the enemy. For every U.S. military base that crumbles, and for every U.S. soldier
00:34:11.800who returns home in the casket, we cheer. Hamas, Hezbollah, also Allah, all of the resistance
00:34:22.680forces we celebrate. These popular voices on the ground spend every waking moment in direct
00:34:27.860confrontation with Zionism, and they rely on a strong Iranian state to maintain their fighting
00:34:33.000capacity okay she said uh i think that's a woman although i've been wrong before uh for every u.s
00:34:40.800soldier who comes back in a casket we cheer if you had difficulty uh hearing what was being said
00:34:47.620again that's in philadelphia uh that was a rally that they were having in support of iran um and
00:34:55.080john fetterman has been going off on the democrat party um and i wanted to just play a couple of
00:35:00.780these different cuts uh here he is saying democrat party's being held hostage by the far left flank
00:35:07.020from putting the country first and reopening the hs which would allow the tsa agents to get paid
00:35:12.920buck they're about to have their third different missed paycheck so that's six weeks of not being
00:35:18.280paid for the tsa agents cut 22 here do the right thing put the country ahead of the party now
00:35:26.780there's a huge rally you know that another no kings kinds of protests so now it's it's also
00:35:33.040probably motivating some people in my party that now they might be afraid to to reopen now because
00:35:40.520they are demanding these kinds of extremes you know what they think is a solution that there
00:35:44.960was ever going to be a solution okay uh and then uh here he is saying shutting down the government
00:35:51.220always wrong tsa agents are struggling cut 23 it's always wrong regardless whatever the party's
00:35:59.360doing it shutting down our government and you can see the kinds of chaos that's created across our
00:36:04.880right now they're selling their blood they have to take you know pay uh loans and just this kinds
00:36:13.580of chaos um so it's fundamentally wrong and that's why i refuse to be a part of it buck
00:36:20.940what percentage of this audience and you and I have been in this camp before what percentage of
00:36:26.880this audience do you think could go a month and a half without being paid at their current job
00:36:32.280and be perfectly fine with that because I do think it's important to contextualize what's
00:36:37.180going on here we're talking about now six weeks that's three different pay periods without getting
00:36:42.980any dollars at all from the job that you've been going and working at uh for for six weeks now I
00:36:49.800I would bet, what do you think, 65% of people, of those of you that are still working,
00:36:54.020I know some people are retired, some people don't have full-time jobs,
00:36:57.240but of those that are working full-time listening to us today,
00:37:00.760I would bet 65%, 60% of people out there would be in significant financial constraints
00:37:06.340if they didn't get paid for six weeks.
00:37:09.620Well, that mirrors what the stats are nationwide.
00:37:14.240And that's exactly what I would assume is true.
00:37:17.400because, you know, we have all 50 states represented in listenership.
00:37:22.560And so, yeah, I would think it's about 30% of those with us right now,
00:37:27.520of all of you with us, could weather this storm financially pretty okay.
00:37:32.900But 70% would be running up some credit card debt,
00:37:37.300asking a landlord maybe for a month of grace or something.
00:37:40.420I mean, that's where reality is for 70% of Americans, 65% to 70%.
00:37:45.220and it's just so cruel you'll notice democrats complain so much if trump wants to do any cuts
00:37:52.300to any federal government jobs or do anything like that at all and yet they'll turn around and
00:37:56.700throw tsa under the bus if it if it benefits them politically without a second thought they don't
00:38:02.100care it's not just tsa by the way it's also it's dhs more broadly as we know coast guard and others
00:38:06.380are also affected by this so i i think it's uh dare i say it is it is disgraceful it is deplorable
00:38:13.280yeah and then by the way elon musk offered to pay the tsa agents and there was a decision made that
00:38:22.540it was probably not legal and rather than getting into a legal battle over whether that was permitted
00:38:29.060or not the uh trump administration decided they would say thank you but decline his uh his
00:38:35.560willingness to pay i i just i come back to this should just not be allowed to happen and i'm
00:38:42.380looking right now the headline is cnn uh the amount of workers that are calling out again it
00:38:48.780it appears to be constantly new york city houston atlanta new orleans and um and and those cities
00:38:59.640by atlanta if i didn't say it overwhelmingly dealing with the biggest issues here but i i
00:39:06.180just think this should be eliminated once and for all i i don't think you should be able to go to
00:39:11.440work and not be paid and i understand some of you say well they're going to get paid eventually okay
00:39:16.680but again i come back to how many of you could go six weeks uh at your jobs not being paid at all
00:39:24.200knowing that it might be months before you got paid for the time that you're working i i just
00:39:29.260this is not what they signed up for and unfortunately we're losing hundreds of employees
00:39:34.360and uh and it's a total mess and again i think the important thing to keep in mind here is
00:39:39.400Democrats have decided this is a price worth paying
00:39:42.440because they want to keep as many people as they can
00:39:45.960from getting deported who are in this country illegally.
00:39:49.580They're making citizens suffer for their attempt to protect non-citizens.
00:39:56.020Yes, and they're also going after TSA.
00:39:59.020When TSA is affected by this, I know it's DHS more broadly,
00:40:02.520but TSA has nothing to do with what their objections are.
00:40:06.340so this is democrats pulling the fire alarm so to speak this is lying in the street so the cars
00:40:12.680can't get by i mean it's it's obstruction what they're doing is just pure obstruction of government
00:40:18.020administration and they're doing it under cover of caring so much about what happened in minneapolis
00:40:23.200how many how many democrat members of congress could even name both the people who were killed
00:40:26.740in their altercations with ice in minneapolis at this point i think they can name one i doubt most
00:40:32.720of them could even name both of them right now they don't care is the point they don't actually
00:40:36.460care about any of this they just want power and they're willing to make people miserable and
00:40:40.300they're willing to make americans suffer and slow down your travel and cause all kinds of
00:40:44.320disruptions to commerce to businesses because they're not getting their way and because they
00:40:49.220don't have anything else to go on here with trump they were yeah are they hoping that something
00:40:52.580terrible happens in the iran war so that they can then use that sure but hasn't happened yet
00:40:57.100so clay this is the best they've got um this is a uh we mentioned this before we were going to have
00:41:04.180our guest on i think and i wanted to come back to it this is from cash patel and i we mentioned this
00:41:10.140this news just came out about about an hour ago now 45 minutes or so an ied was placed at mcdill
00:41:18.060air force base home to sitcom and u.s special operations command a brother and a sister have
00:41:24.600now been indicted one is in custody for accessory and evidence tampering and the primary suspect is
00:41:30.780charged with explosives offensives is currently in china the fbi working with our partners will
00:41:36.980continue pursuing all these responsible and ensure they're brought to justice um they say this is
00:41:42.720tied to the iran war the device was planted there so the reason why i bring it up is um again we
00:41:50.780had the situation buck in uh detroit uh north of detroit we had the situation at old dominion
00:41:56.540university these are terror attacks by the way by situations austin and the attempted uh terror
00:42:03.840attack in new york city and now we have this situation uh that is coming out that was attempted
00:42:09.020in florida and um again i mean fbi tampa uh accused of hiding uh and uh and attempting to set off an
00:42:19.160ied um and uh we'll see what exactly happens for this but on march 16th fbi tampa announced that
00:42:27.200a suspicious package had been discovered and they were then able to track down where it was and they
00:42:32.640believe it was connected to what's going on in iran so yet another would-be attempt to create
00:42:40.840an element of terror kill people uh and the reason why i bring that up in conjunction with the tsa
00:42:46.340is you would think of all times that we would want the TSA to be as safe as possible it would
00:42:52.900be now when we know that there have been even more aggressive attempts to to bring terror attacks to
00:42:59.100this country than in the past um it just to me is indefensible all right let's uh hop into some
00:43:06.640of our calls here clikes we got a lot stacked up and also some of our talkbacks we have uh
00:43:12.200randy in coco florida what's going on randy hi how are you doing we're great great um i and my
00:43:22.700wife have a huge amount of respect for you too uh we listen to you every day if at all possible
00:43:28.840and you have no idea how invaluable what you do for the country is thank you so much
00:43:36.140but um i wanted to talk about uh iran there is an aspect to the conflict there that i can't
00:43:46.160believe it's been overlooked i spend a lot of time yelling at my radio uh that we need to take a page
00:43:53.380from world war ii when we dropped hundreds and hundreds of small arms and tons of ammunition
00:44:00.300explosives first aid communications gear to the resistance fighters of europe and i can't for the
00:44:08.360life of me understand why we're not doing that for the uh the resistance in iran it would be a
00:44:13.980military asset that would be cost effective beyond belief we'd be making good on a promise that we
00:44:20.700made to those people to watch out for them and take care of them any solution to the iran conflict
00:44:28.040that does not involve the complete and total removal of the theocracy is not a victory.
00:44:34.500It is an illusion of victory, and we will regret it.
00:44:38.780We will fight this war all over again within 10 years if we leave those people in power.
00:44:43.700They have got to go just like the Nazis had to go at the end of World War II.
00:44:48.280Thank you for the call and the historic analogy.
00:44:51.060Buck, I haven't heard anybody make this suggestion.
00:44:53.200My guess would be that right now the IRGC is still in control of much of Iran and that if we were to drop weapons, we think those weapons would end up in the hands of our adversaries as opposed to the adversaries of the government.
00:45:10.200Would that be your sign off on what you would expect is the rationale so far for why weapons drops are not occurring?
00:45:17.080Yeah, we don't have the networks on the ground to get the weapons, too.
00:45:21.240We don't know who we'd be trying to get the weapons to.
00:45:24.460We were, the British and the French, for example, the Allies,
00:45:28.600the Brits knew that there were people in France who did not want the Nazis there and in charge,
00:45:33.040and they weren't that hard to find under the occupation, Vichy government and all that.