Verdict with Ted Cruz - August 04, 2023


Media Desperate To Hide Damning Testimony from Devon Archer-What You Need To Know


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Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas) sits down with Ben Ferguson (D-NJ) to discuss the latest developments in the Hunter Biden and Donald Trump indictments, and the implications for the upcoming Devin Archer testimony before Congress.

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00:00:05.420 Welcome. It is Verdict with Senator Ted Cruz, Ben Ferguson with you.
00:00:09.220 So nice to have you with us after we had a abbreviated podcast yesterday.
00:00:14.420 We're back up and running, or I say two days ago, we're back up and running now.
00:00:18.440 It never fails that you have technical issues on the biggest nights,
00:00:21.900 but we got through it and we appreciate you guys listening to us today
00:00:24.780 because we have a lot to talk about with the Devin Archer issue.
00:00:28.700 Senator, we first obviously have to deal with the fact that, yet again,
00:00:32.840 Donald Trump's being charged and arraigned on more charges against him.
00:00:37.900 I want to get your reaction to that before we do a deep dive into the Devin Archer testimony before Congress.
00:00:44.020 Well, this week is a huge week in terms of developments for the rule of law,
00:00:48.500 developments for Joe Biden, developments for Hunter Biden, and developments for Donald Trump.
00:00:52.860 This week, obviously, Donald Trump was indicted yet again,
00:00:56.420 a third time by special counsel, Jack Smith.
00:00:59.800 It is an indictment that I believe is a political indictment.
00:01:03.300 It is the latest manifestation of the politicization of the Department of Justice,
00:01:07.980 where the Democrats, every time there are bad developments about Joe Biden, about Hunter Biden,
00:01:14.940 they immediately turn around and try to overtake the news cycle with yet another attack on Donald Trump.
00:01:22.740 And it is doing severe damage to the integrity of the Department of Justice.
00:01:28.460 And listen, actually, yesterday, one of Trump's lawyers outside the courtroom expressed it really powerfully,
00:01:36.680 the shameless timing of each of these indictments.
00:01:40.600 Give a listen.
00:01:41.040 The fact that I am standing here for the third time in five months is not a coincidence.
00:01:49.120 This is the Biden political law fair that we have seen time and time again.
00:01:54.420 It is a deflection from everything that they have done.
00:01:59.000 And if you don't believe me, look at the facts.
00:02:01.520 On March 17th, Hunter accidentally admits that it was his laptop from hell.
00:02:08.920 The next day, DA Alvin Bragg indicts President Trump.
00:02:15.180 June 8th, an FBI document is released showing that the Ukrainians paid the Biden crime family millions and millions of dollars.
00:02:24.120 The next day, the Mar-a-Lago raid and the Mar-a-Lago indictment.
00:02:30.580 Last week, Hunter Biden's sweetheart plea deal fell through when the judge realized it had blanket immunity.
00:02:39.160 The following day, a superseding indictment against Donald Trump.
00:02:43.980 July 31st, Devin Archer goes to testify in front of the House.
00:02:52.380 That was only after they failed to put him in jail prior to the ballot.
00:02:58.860 What happens the next day?
00:03:00.940 The January 6th indictment that we're here for today.
00:03:04.380 This is not a coincidence.
00:03:05.720 This is election interference at its finest against the leading candidate right now for president for either party.
00:03:16.280 You hear that.
00:03:18.060 And this is I'm so glad that the Trump team did this to remind people we actually did this on the show, Senator, just a couple of days ago.
00:03:27.500 They're not even trying to hide how biased they are.
00:03:31.340 It's like, all right, you do something exposing the Biden crime family.
00:03:35.240 We're going to put Donald Trump in prison for now.
00:03:38.160 What is it?
00:03:39.620 576 years.
00:03:40.500 I'm not exaggerating.
00:03:41.420 It's actually like pretty close to the number.
00:03:43.120 If he's found guilty on everything, they're not hiding it at all.
00:03:46.640 Yeah, but you can understand the objective is not to put Donald Trump in prison for a day.
00:03:51.040 The objective, Joe Biden's political objective, Merrick Garland's political objective.
00:03:56.340 Number one, they want Trump to win the primary, and they have recognized that every time they indict him, his numbers go up in the Republican primary.
00:04:03.780 But number two, the reason, one of the key reasons they want him to win the primary is they want in September and October of next year, right before Election Day, they want ideally multiple criminal trials ongoing.
00:04:17.680 They want Trump being prosecuted.
00:04:21.120 They want all of the headlines to be about anything other than the disastrous Joe Biden record.
00:04:27.800 They don't want to talk about the chaos at our southern border and 7 million illegal immigrants under Joe Biden.
00:04:32.900 They don't want to talk about the train wreck that is Bidenomics, including seeing the U.S. credit rating downgraded after Biden and the Democrats engaged in trillions of dollars of a reckless spending spree.
00:04:44.340 They don't want to talk about rising crime rates because of their assault on law enforcement and police across this country.
00:04:51.640 They don't want to talk about the disaster of foreign policy, including the largest land war in Europe since World War II.
00:04:57.120 They don't want to talk about the shameful surrender to the Taliban and withdraw in Afghanistan.
00:05:04.200 They don't want to talk about how every enemy of America is stronger today and how Joe Biden has weakened and undermined our allies across the country.
00:05:12.380 None of that do they want the conversation to be about.
00:05:15.320 They want the conversation to be about today in the criminal trial against Donald Trump.
00:05:19.940 Here's the horrible testimony we heard.
00:05:21.820 They believe that's how they win.
00:05:24.500 And that we've talked a lot in this podcast about how the far left, what they accuse you of is what they're doing.
00:05:34.240 That is an assault on democracy because they don't trust the voters.
00:05:38.560 They don't want the voters to vote on Biden's record, because if we vote on Biden's record, Biden loses.
00:05:44.880 Instead, they want to use the Department of Justice to steal the election.
00:05:51.620 And let's be clear, they're trying to steal it by dominating the headlines, by bringing the full force of the federal government to bring case after case after case.
00:06:02.420 And listen, we talked about on Wednesday's podcast how the objective of this latest indictment isn't to send Trump to jail.
00:06:12.440 It is rather to bring this case before a D.C. jury that is overwhelmingly Democrat, that overwhelmingly despises Donald Trump.
00:06:20.840 They got lucky and they got one of the most left wing, if not the most left wing federal district judge in D.C., who presumably is going to rule against Trump over and over and over again.
00:06:30.100 And there's a very real possibility they get a guilty verdict from a D.C. jury.
00:06:36.460 And in their perfect world, they'd like that guilty verdict maybe about October 20th of next year would would be the Democrat dream scenario.
00:06:46.260 Now, they know full well if there is a guilty verdict when that goes up on appeal and when it gets up to the Supreme Court.
00:06:53.560 It is overwhelmingly likely to be thrown out that this this indictment is an indictment for challenging the results of an election, which you're entitled to do, which Democrats do after election, after election, after election.
00:07:06.860 It's an indictment for engaging in free speech and Donald Trump standing up and expressing his views about voter fraud.
00:07:12.900 It's an indictment saying it is criminal that he did not believe some of the advice he was given.
00:07:19.040 You read the indictment and it's really laughable.
00:07:20.780 It says, well, Trump knew his claims were false because so and so told them he they were false.
00:07:25.620 Now, mind you, he had other people telling him they were true.
00:07:28.700 And according to the Biden Department of Justice, if you pick the wrong person to listen to, that is now suddenly a criminal offense.
00:07:35.400 This is election interference.
00:07:36.640 It is also ongoing news management.
00:07:42.020 And so we talked about in Wednesday's pod how you and I sat down Tuesday afternoon to record Wednesday's pod and the entire topic was going to be about Devin Archer, that it was major news breaking.
00:07:55.700 And as we were sitting down, we were about to record it.
00:07:57.940 We both got over our phones.
00:08:00.500 Trump's notification.
00:08:01.360 I'm going to be indicted at 5 p.m. today.
00:08:03.420 And we're like, oh, never mind.
00:08:05.280 And not only was it successful in clearing Devin Archer off of the six o'clock news on every station, which it probably would have done anyway, but it even cleared it off of this podcast where we had to devote Wednesday's podcast to that indictment, which meant we didn't get to Devin Archer.
00:08:23.640 So what we're going to do now, listen, there's going to be plenty of time and podcasts to come to analyze the legal issues in Trump indictment number one, Trump indictment number two, Trump indictment number three, Trump indictment number 436, all of the ones they're going to bring.
00:08:40.160 There'll be plenty of time for that.
00:08:41.900 This podcast today.
00:08:43.040 There's going to be a lot of that.
00:08:43.780 Yeah.
00:08:44.000 And today, that's why it's so important that we talk about Devin Archer.
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00:10:23.400 Senator, let's get into Devin Archer here.
00:10:26.740 And when you look at his testimony, give me a couple of your big takeaways of what was said that was even shocking to you.
00:10:35.280 Just an overall recap of how insane his testimony actually was.
00:10:40.860 Well, the biggest and most consequential thing that Devin Archer testified to is that Joe Biden has been lying to the American people for years,
00:10:49.160 and the Biden White House has been lying to the American people for years.
00:10:52.220 That when Joe Biden said he had never discussed any of Hunter's overseas business deals, dealings with Hunter Biden,
00:10:59.200 assuming Devin Archer is telling the truth, Joe Biden was flat out lying.
00:11:03.380 That he had had roughly 20 conversations that Devin Archer was aware of.
00:11:08.680 That is bombshell testimony because it goes right to the heart of Joe Biden's central defense that, gosh, this was just Hunter doing his thing.
00:11:19.960 It wasn't me.
00:11:21.780 And listen, I think the best way to do this is to actually walk systematically through some of the testimony.
00:11:28.080 So Devin Archer met Hunter Biden sometime between 2000 and 2004.
00:11:35.600 And Devin Archer became involved in Burisma in 2014 when he joined the Burisma board.
00:11:41.340 And the relationship started when Michalaz Lochefsky and Vadim Poscharski were on the target list of potential investors
00:11:54.640 in a fund that was known as Rosemont Real Estate Acquisition Fund 1.
00:12:00.380 He also confirmed that the former president of Poland, Alexander Kwasniewski, joined the Burisma board.
00:12:10.460 And notably, this same point was in the FD-1023 that the FBI prepared.
00:12:17.660 So this is one level of concurrence between those two.
00:12:21.480 Devin Archer described how he flew to Warsaw in March of 2014 to meet with Kwasniewski and to discuss Devin Archer's joining Burisma's board.
00:12:31.980 And he said that he recalled Hunter Biden referring to President Biden as, quote, my guy when shown the email he received from Hunter Biden on April 12th.
00:12:45.260 Now, think about this for a second.
00:12:48.640 Ben, have you ever referred to your dad as my guy?
00:12:52.120 No, not once in my life.
00:12:53.680 Certainly not in the sense of like, hey, he's my guy that I'm that I'm selling at a hot to the highest bidder in the world.
00:12:59.560 Right.
00:13:00.260 Look, that's not normal.
00:13:01.620 Daddy was Hunter's business.
00:13:03.520 That's why he was my guy.
00:13:04.940 I've lived 52 years.
00:13:06.460 I'm quite confident I've never referred to my father as my guy because that's not my business.
00:13:11.720 That was Hunter's business.
00:13:14.700 Devin Archer discussed Hunter talking about how bringing then Vice President Biden.
00:13:20.280 And to be clear, Joe Biden was the sitting Vice President of the United States at that time.
00:13:24.560 How bringing then Vice President Biden to Ukraine would add value in the eyes of Burisma. 0.57
00:13:29.860 And Devin Archer described that as, quote, pretty obvious.
00:13:33.500 If you're, you know, you're the son of a vice president.
00:13:38.780 Now.
00:13:41.620 Here's an exchange.
00:13:43.060 The majority council, the Republican council asked Devin Archer the following.
00:13:46.660 You keep saying the brand, but by brand, you mean the Biden family, correct?
00:13:55.060 Archer, correct.
00:13:56.720 Majority council.
00:13:58.180 And that brand is what, in your opinion, was the majority of what the value that was delivered from Hunter Biden to Burisma?
00:14:07.800 Archer.
00:14:08.360 I didn't say majority, but I wouldn't speculate on percentages.
00:14:12.040 But I do think that was an element of it.
00:14:15.080 Representative Andy Biggs chimes in.
00:14:17.960 When you say Biden family, sorry to cut in here.
00:14:20.820 I just want to get a clarification.
00:14:23.360 You aren't talking about Dr. Jill or anybody else.
00:14:27.100 You're talking about Joe Biden.
00:14:29.580 Is that fair to say?
00:14:31.200 Archer.
00:14:32.400 Yeah, that's fair to say.
00:14:33.920 Listen, I think it's, I don't think about it as, you know, Joe directly, but it's fair.
00:14:41.240 That's fair to say.
00:14:42.540 Obviously, that brought the most value to the brand.
00:14:46.640 So, there's a reason that Joe Biden was my guy to Hunter.
00:14:50.700 Because Joe Biden was the brand that was being sold.
00:14:56.240 All right.
00:14:57.060 Next exchange.
00:14:59.160 Majority council.
00:15:01.220 That Hunter Biden was adding value.
00:15:03.920 His value that he was adding was, in part, as you said, his family.
00:15:08.300 Archer, uh-huh.
00:15:09.880 Majority council.
00:15:11.360 And so, what is your basis for knowing that?
00:15:14.240 Archer?
00:15:15.680 My basis for knowing that?
00:15:18.080 Well, I think there was, there are particular, you know, objectives that Burisma was trying to accomplish.
00:15:23.720 And a lot of it's about opening doors, you know, globally in D.C.
00:15:26.520 And I think that, you know, that was the, you know, and then obviously having those doors open, you know, sent the right signals, you know, for Burisma to, you know, carry on its business and be successful.
00:15:39.080 All right.
00:15:41.700 Here's the next conversation.
00:15:44.100 Archer, quote.
00:15:44.980 My only thought is that I think Burisma would have gone out of business if it didn't have the brand attached to it.
00:15:53.040 Now, pause to think for a second.
00:15:55.500 He just testified to Congress that Burisma, the Ukrainian natural gas company owned by a corrupt Ukrainian oligarch, would have gone out of business if it didn't have the brand.
00:16:06.880 What is the brand Joe Biden attached to it?
00:16:09.920 So, there's a reason they paid Hunter a million bucks a year because attaching Joe Biden's name to the company kept the company solvent.
00:16:19.000 Archer continues, that's my, like, only honest opinion, but I have no basis for any, never heard any conversations.
00:16:27.300 And then, then you see the Democrats jump in and Representative Goldman.
00:16:33.720 And Goldman, who was the lead lawyer for the Democrats in the Trump impeachments, and he's now a baby freshman Democrat representative from New York, he's decided his job is to be Hunter Biden's lawyer.
00:16:46.840 And so, he's jumping in and he says, well, but that's different than Joe Biden's action because, you know, Goldman's, Representative Goldman's job is to defend Joe Biden and Hunter Biden.
00:16:56.720 Archer goes, right.
00:16:58.500 Goldman, you're just talking about that Hunter was on the board.
00:17:02.340 Archer, right.
00:17:03.000 And I think that's why Goldman and so, Archer, it was able to survive for as long as it did.
00:17:09.840 Goldman, by, because of additional capital or Archer, just because of the brand.
00:17:18.440 Goldman, well, I don't understand.
00:17:21.460 How does that have an impact?
00:17:22.960 Archer, well, the capabilities to navigate DC, that they were able to, you know, basically be in the news cycle.
00:17:28.720 And I think that preserved them from a, you know, from a longevity standpoint.
00:17:32.800 That's like my honest, that's really what I think.
00:17:35.360 That's like how I think holistically.
00:17:38.100 Goldman, but how would that work?
00:17:40.000 Archer.
00:17:41.220 Because people would be intimidated to mess with them.
00:17:46.280 Goldman, in what way?
00:17:48.100 Archer.
00:17:48.460 Archer, legally.
00:17:50.200 Goldman, uh-huh.
00:17:51.920 Archer.
00:17:53.080 So on this line of questioning, I have no, like, proof.
00:17:55.660 I have no nothing.
00:17:57.140 All right.
00:17:57.740 Let's see, though, what he does have proof with.
00:18:00.540 Here's another line of questioning.
00:18:02.660 Majority counsel.
00:18:04.400 And I want to talk about the value.
00:18:06.360 Going back to this, it would be the spring of 2014 Cafe Milano dinner.
00:18:10.920 Archer, uh-huh.
00:18:11.760 Spring of 14.
00:18:12.540 Yeah, the first one.
00:18:14.000 Majority counsel.
00:18:15.700 And since we talked about it before the break, if you could just recap.
00:18:19.200 Could you say again who was there?
00:18:21.360 Now, this Cafe Milano is a shi-shi restaurant in D.C. 1.00
00:18:24.620 And there was a dinner.
00:18:25.620 Here's Archer's answer.
00:18:26.640 Archer.
00:18:27.040 Sure.
00:18:28.640 Keene's Rakishev.
00:18:30.600 Kareem Massimov.
00:18:32.600 Yelena Batarina.
00:18:34.520 Possibly Yuri.
00:18:36.000 Hunter Biden.
00:18:37.620 Joe Biden.
00:18:38.400 Mind you, Joe Biden's the vice president of the United States at the time.
00:18:41.360 Possibly Eric Schwerin.
00:18:43.480 Majority counsel.
00:18:45.220 The duration of the time that Joe Biden stayed there, you said you couldn't recall.
00:18:49.880 But do you recall whether he had dinner or whether, oh, he had dinner, yeah, Archer says.
00:18:53.580 I recall that he had dinner.
00:18:55.260 It was a regular, not a long dinner, but dinner.
00:18:59.260 Majority counsel.
00:18:59.980 And so this dinner takes place in the spring of 2014, approximately.
00:19:03.700 But then do you recall getting a wire on February 14th of 2014 from Yelena Batarina for $3.5 million to Rosemont Seneca Thornton?
00:19:16.700 Archer to Rosemont Seneca Thornton.
00:19:18.520 Majority counsel.
00:19:19.180 Yes.
00:19:20.160 Archer.
00:19:20.600 Yes.
00:19:21.400 And why I remember that is from the other testimony.
00:19:24.900 Yes.
00:19:26.320 All right.
00:19:26.700 So the majority counsel follows up on this.
00:19:29.140 Majority counsel.
00:19:30.740 There's a wire.
00:19:31.920 An incoming wire.
00:19:33.600 To the Rosemont Seneca Bohai account for April 22nd of 2014 for $142,300.
00:19:40.480 Soon thereafter, there's an outgoing wire, which appears to be the next day.
00:19:44.020 To a beneficiary of Schneider-Nelson Motor for this exact same amount.
00:19:50.540 What was, first off, our understanding is that Novitas holding, PTE Limited, is associated with Keene's Rachekev.
00:19:59.140 Archer, that's my understanding.
00:20:01.800 Why did Rosemont Seneca Bohai receive this $142,000 payment from Rachekev?
00:20:09.320 Archer, it was for a car.
00:20:12.240 Archer, majority counsel.
00:20:15.040 For whose car?
00:20:16.900 Archer.
00:20:18.280 For Hunter's car.
00:20:21.080 Majority counsel.
00:20:22.380 Was this a Porsche?
00:20:24.400 Archer.
00:20:25.500 It gets a little foggy here, but I believe it was a Fisker first and then a Porsche.
00:20:31.100 But it was, yes, it was majority counsel for an expensive car.
00:20:34.600 Archer.
00:20:35.600 For an expensive car.
00:20:37.600 Yes.
00:20:38.280 So, by the way, the brand is very profitable.
00:20:40.460 I'm curious, Ben.
00:20:42.240 You've lived 40-some-odd years on planet Earth.
00:20:45.220 Have you ever had Russians wire you $142,000 to buy a Porsche or a Fisker? 0.95
00:20:51.080 No.
00:20:51.560 And no one directly connected to Vladimir Putin, who are best friends, and that's how they get their money.
00:20:56.820 They're billions.
00:20:57.440 And on top of the fact that, Senator, we've got to talk about this, they still have not been on the sanction list while all these other Russian oligarchs have been sanctioned.
00:21:07.620 She has not been sanctioned yet every time the sanctions list come out.
00:21:12.680 So, if you want to know what you get for the money, the $3.5 million, right, or the other money for the car, apparently this is what you get.
00:21:19.480 So, just to be clear, what you're saying is that Joe Biden has sanctioned numerous Russian oligarchs, and they happen to be the Russian oligarchs, that didn't pay Hunter Biden millions of dollars, or hundreds of thousands of dollars.
00:21:39.940 Is that fair?
00:21:41.220 Yeah, I mean, and that's, yes, and the Suspicious Activity Reports, by the way, back this up.
00:21:45.020 The House Oversight Committee backs it up.
00:21:47.080 You had three, and the emails from Joe Biden, or say Hunter Biden's laptop, clearly showed $3.5 million was wired in February of 2014 by the former First Lady of Moscow, again, Yelena Batarina, who attended at least, at least, that's the part here I also find interesting, Senator, at least one dinner.
00:22:06.060 With then-Vice President Biden and his son, and was, in turn, transferred to a firm co-owned by Archer and Hunter Biden after its initial receipt by an entity that Biden defenders had insisted was solely controlled by Devin Archer, so they also lied about who was controlling the money when it came in.
00:22:27.500 It gets worse.
00:22:29.680 Let's go through a little bit more of the testimony.
00:22:32.560 Tony, Majority Council.
00:22:35.080 All right, let's move on to the second dinner.
00:22:37.940 Archer, the second dinner.
00:22:39.340 Majority Council.
00:22:40.120 The Spring 2015 Cafe Milano.
00:22:41.960 Who was there?
00:22:43.660 Archer.
00:22:44.180 That dinner was, I think we went over it before, but it was Vadim, it was Hunter, Joe, myself, Kareem, Massimov, a Greek Orthodox priest, maybe someone from the World Food Program.
00:22:58.120 Majority Council.
00:22:58.900 And what did Joe do at that dinner?
00:23:00.300 Did he have dinner?
00:23:00.960 How long was he there?
00:23:02.020 Archer.
00:23:02.560 He had dinner.
00:23:03.480 He had dinner.
00:23:04.980 And there was, on that one, I believe the first one was like a birthday dinner, and the second was, I think we were supposed to talk about the World Food Program.
00:23:14.500 So there was some talk about that.
00:23:16.120 Yeah, just some, some about it, yeah.
00:23:18.400 Look, you know, World Food, things like fancy sport cars for Hunter.
00:23:23.460 Listen, crack cocaine's not going to buy itself.
00:23:25.340 And by the way, and by the way, neither is a fancy beach house in Delaware, neither is a classic Corvette.
00:23:32.180 That takes money.
00:23:34.040 All right.
00:23:34.980 Our home renovations.
00:23:36.120 Don't forget about home renovations.
00:23:37.580 Those are also very, very important.
00:23:39.660 And the home renovations, apparently, were flowing from Hunter Biden's bank account for his dad's home in Delaware.
00:23:46.420 And that's another part of this whole idea, like, oh, they never were funneling money to one another, or they never were, quote, in business together.
00:23:53.160 As the White House just recently said, again, another example of the lies coming from the Biden crime family and coming from the podium at the White House.
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00:25:21.820 All right, the next exchange gets even more damning if that's possible.
00:25:26.500 Majority counsel, how many times would you say Hunter Biden put his father on speakerphone or referenced his father being on the phone in front of others who were either foreign investors or foreign nationals who he is soliciting business with or working with approximately?
00:25:45.540 Archer, approximately?
00:25:48.040 The differentiation between investor and normal course of the day, you know, it's very hard to speculate on, but he, they spoke every day.
00:25:56.940 He acknowledged that they spoke every day and he would, you know, he would sometimes make it apparent that he spoke to his dad.
00:26:03.140 And sometimes he put them on speaker, but as far as quantifying the number, you know, relative to investors, I don't know.
00:26:10.580 Majority counsel, not necessarily investors, but with people who Hunter Biden was trying to either get business with or make contacts with or add value to.
00:26:22.640 He said 20 times Hunter Biden would put Joe Biden on the phone with people he was trying to get business with or make contacts with or add value to.
00:26:42.520 Majority counsel.
00:26:44.400 And during those 20 times, did Hunter Biden ever place his dad on speakerphone?
00:26:48.480 Archer, yes.
00:26:50.280 Let's get a little more detail.
00:26:52.440 Majority counsel.
00:26:53.120 But if I were to just call my dad right now and put him on speakerphone and we're in a professional business meeting here, would that be odd to you?
00:27:07.020 Archer, would that be odd to me?
00:27:09.180 Majority counsel, yes.
00:27:10.100 That would be odd if you called your dad right now.
00:27:16.160 Majority counsel.
00:27:17.020 So there's a time and a place where it's professional to do so.
00:27:20.180 Excuse me.
00:27:21.020 When you're in a personal meeting and you may call your dad or a family member if you're with family.
00:27:25.620 But if you're in a professional meeting and you're meeting foreign business leaders or whoever it may be and you just place your dad on speakerphone on the table, that's a little odd, isn't it?
00:27:35.520 Archer.
00:27:36.620 That is a little odd.
00:27:38.020 I mean, it's not odd.
00:27:39.340 I mean, it's quite obvious what we're talking around.
00:27:44.640 Majority counsel.
00:27:46.340 So what are we talking about?
00:27:49.460 You are talking around it, and so I'd like to get it out.
00:27:53.180 What are we talking about here?
00:27:55.860 Archer.
00:27:57.180 That I think at the end of the day, part of what was delivered is the brand.
00:28:04.000 I mean, it's like anything.
00:28:05.020 You know, if you're Jamie Dimon's son or any CEO, you know, I think that's what we're talking about here is that there was brand being delivered along with other capabilities and reach.
00:28:15.320 I think brand is the best way to describe it.
00:28:18.640 All right.
00:28:20.340 Next exchange.
00:28:22.180 Majority counsel.
00:28:22.980 Going back to the calls that Hunter Biden would put on speakerphone with his father and others.
00:28:29.160 Can you describe what the other people would say?
00:28:31.460 And if you can recall, after Hunter Biden did that, because I'll tell you, just from an everyday American, if someone put the vice president of the United States on the phone right in front of you, it'd be pretty impressive.
00:28:45.440 Archer.
00:28:46.060 Absolutely.
00:28:47.600 Majority counsel.
00:28:48.440 And I would think there would be some sort of reaction from those people.
00:28:53.040 Archer.
00:28:53.400 Yeah, I think everybody, I think everybody remains, you know, cool and calm like it was, you know, and then probably called their friends and family and said they spoke to him.
00:29:04.440 But, you know, the reaction, I don't have any specifics of like people jumping up and giving high fives.
00:29:09.780 But I think it was, you know, a signal that, you know, they respected and thought was a value.
00:29:15.600 All right, finally, three more lines of questioning where it concerned the objective to get help from D.C.
00:29:28.320 Conversation one, majority counsel.
00:29:30.580 Did during that, I'll say, after dinner at the Four Seasons, did Mikola Zlochevsky or Vadim ask Hunter Biden to make any phone calls?
00:29:40.120 Archer.
00:29:41.100 Yes, though I was not a party of that phone call.
00:29:43.860 Majority counsel, what was the request?
00:29:46.400 Archer.
00:29:47.240 The request was, I think they were getting pressure and they requested Hunter, you know, help them with some of that pressure.
00:29:56.560 Majority counsel, what pressure?
00:29:59.600 Archer.
00:30:00.980 Government.
00:30:02.380 Government pressure on their, you know, government pressure from Ukrainian government investigations into Mikola, etc.
00:30:10.780 But it was, it was not, it wasn't like a specific, not a specific request.
00:30:17.180 It was just, we were sitting there at the Four Seasons having, you know, coffee.
00:30:21.280 And there was, there was Mikola, there was one of the managers for the Four Seasons who managed that property, Vadim.
00:30:26.540 So it wasn't like a closed, it wasn't like, it was not like a specific meeting.
00:30:34.060 Majority counsel, when you say pressure from the government, at this time, were you aware that Victor Shokin was investigating Burisma?
00:30:42.620 Burisma, Archer.
00:30:44.760 To the best, I vaguely, whether it was Shokin, I vaguely, there was a lot of pressure initially.
00:30:51.200 There was, there was several pressure issues.
00:30:53.880 It was kind of a theme of Burisma.
00:30:56.680 There was capital tied up in London, 23 million pounds.
00:31:00.780 There was, you know, a U.S. visa denied, and then a Mexican visa, a Mexico visa denied.
00:31:06.800 And then there was, so Shokin wasn't specifically on my radar as being an individual that was, that was targeting him.
00:31:13.360 But yes, there was constant pressure.
00:31:16.100 And it was like, it was like whack-a-mole in regards to the pressures they had to resolve.
00:31:20.560 At this point, Congressman Jim Jordan jumps in.
00:31:23.880 The request from Mr. from Mikhail Islochevsky and Vadim to Mr. Biden, and or if you said it was to you.
00:31:31.800 The request was for help from whom to deal with what pressure?
00:31:39.320 Archer.
00:31:40.700 The request, you know, basically the request is like, can DC help?
00:31:46.160 But there were not, you know, I'm not going to, there was not, it wasn't like, there weren't specific, you know,
00:31:52.340 can the big guy help?
00:31:54.780 It was always this amorphous, can we get help in DC?
00:32:02.160 Representative Jordan.
00:32:03.140 The request was help from the United States government to deal with the pressure that they were under from their prosecutor.
00:32:12.320 And that entailed the freezing of assets at the London Bank and other things that were going on in Ukraine.
00:32:19.260 Archer.
00:32:20.500 Correct.
00:32:20.980 All right.
00:32:23.660 Conversation number two.
00:32:26.440 Representative Andy Biggs.
00:32:28.600 So, why do you think they were asking Hunter Biden for DC help?
00:32:34.360 Archer.
00:32:34.840 I mean, why?
00:32:36.840 Representative Biggs.
00:32:37.720 I mean, I mean, what did you take away from that?
00:32:40.580 Archer.
00:32:40.920 Well, I mean, he was a lobbyist and an expert, and obviously he carried, you know, a very powerful name.
00:32:49.420 So, I think it was, that's what they were asking for.
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00:33:28.440 This is, when you hear it the way you're describing it, Senator, I think most people,
00:33:33.440 and this is something, by the way, you're not going to hear anywhere else
00:33:35.740 because they don't have the time or they don't want to take the time or they don't want to tell you this story.
00:33:41.540 You hear this testimony, and it's so damning.
00:33:44.660 It's also so condescending to the American people that this is allowed to happen in this country
00:33:51.180 by the president of the United States of America,
00:33:53.100 who was selling the United States of America out to the highest corrupt bidder,
00:33:57.820 which was also, in many ways, a shockingly low amount of money,
00:34:01.460 that you could buy a vice president for a million here, two million here, five million here.
00:34:08.080 Don't forget the Porsche.
00:34:08.180 Look, the Porsche is a nice car.
00:34:09.740 That's true.
00:34:10.260 The Porsche is nice.
00:34:10.940 Don't diminish a Porsche.
00:34:11.620 That's a valid point.
00:34:13.280 I apologize to all Porsche drivers out there.
00:34:16.760 But it's amazing that this is happening.
00:34:20.080 And I have to go back real quick, Senator, and play this.
00:34:23.420 Because when all this came out that you just read,
00:34:28.440 the media went to full-blown cover their ASSs, the White House, the president, their own.
00:34:37.000 Oh, come on. 0.87
00:34:37.540 Come on, Ben.
00:34:38.300 Why would you call it a cover-up?
00:34:39.740 It's not like they turned around and indicted Donald Trump or anything.
00:34:42.680 That's true.
00:34:43.280 Good point.
00:34:44.120 But they did go on TV, and they did say over and over again that it's, quote,
00:34:48.700 normal for you to have your dad kind of juice your business with your context.
00:34:54.280 Here is just some of the media saying this right after this testimony.
00:34:58.740 Nothing, not even approximating improper, much less wrong or illegal.
00:35:02.940 It's wishful thinking.
00:35:04.100 They're trying to create a scandal.
00:35:05.800 I think it's pretty clear, at least so far, there is nothing there.
00:35:09.060 House Republicans continue their search for any proof at all, tying President Joe Biden
00:35:13.240 to his son Hunter's business dealings.
00:35:15.180 Joe Biden had nothing to do with Hunter Biden's business dealings.
00:35:19.480 Because they wanted dirty up Biden's name.
00:35:21.960 You know, Republicans have been trying to use Hunter Biden's behavior against the president.
00:35:26.520 Did not know about anything that Hunter Biden was doing.
00:35:30.780 Cena Biden was simply involved in his son's life in a personal capacity.
00:35:35.420 Republicans from consistently trying to make this argument and create the illusion of some
00:35:41.680 malfeasance being there.
00:35:43.660 Spoke to business associates of Hunter Biden to say hello, to have small talk, casual conversation.
00:35:52.220 Hunter Biden talked to his dad on the phone all the time.
00:35:54.540 They talked basically every day.
00:35:56.360 Hey, sometimes Joe Biden would say hello to the people in the room if he popped in or
00:36:00.680 on the phone or whatever.
00:36:01.440 It's all casual conversation, niceties, the weather.
00:36:05.740 They never discussed the business.
00:36:07.260 These were more of just cordial hello types of conversations.
00:36:11.060 Business was never discussed on those calls.
00:36:13.340 And that was more casual sort of check ins, casual conversations.
00:36:16.380 President Biden might have said, hey, quit putting me on speakerphone.
00:36:20.700 You know, are you having a business meeting?
00:36:23.420 Like, what is that about?
00:36:25.180 But do you hang up on your phone on your side?
00:36:27.980 Bo Biden, Hunter's brother and President Biden's son, was very ill with cancer and then passed
00:36:33.620 away.
00:36:34.400 That, as the witness today testified, was what these conversations and these calls were
00:36:39.320 about.
00:36:39.900 We should put this in context.
00:36:41.180 This is a time when Bo Biden, the president's other son, was ill and then dying and then
00:36:45.400 passed away.
00:36:46.580 Very fraught and sad time for the Biden family.
00:36:51.700 And we know how important family is to the president.
00:36:56.100 They're doing Donald Trump's bidding, going after Hunter Biden, trying to create a tie to
00:37:00.400 the president.
00:37:01.000 This is a political move here.
00:37:03.560 It is a politics thing, right?
00:37:06.620 In as much as it's anything else.
00:37:07.880 Fair?
00:37:08.660 Yeah, I think so.
00:37:09.720 It does not appear to have been a direct business tie.
00:37:13.120 Because right now you don't see any conduct that's illegal, that there is regulational
00:37:17.220 law that's prohibiting it, even though it might be highly unethical.
00:37:20.320 I don't see high crimes and misdemeanors.
00:37:21.940 I don't even see a low crime.
00:37:23.380 I see a son who's using his father.
00:37:26.600 People with famous last names using them for their own purposes.
00:37:30.300 People in your families, they're ne'er-do-wells.
00:37:33.700 This is as old as time.
00:37:35.320 It's not old as time, Senator.
00:37:37.200 And as James Comer said, it was influence peddling.
00:37:40.860 They sold Joe Biden and Joe Biden himself talked to every single person that has wired money
00:37:47.160 to the Bidens.
00:37:49.120 That's James Comer's exact quote.
00:37:50.780 And the entire media apparatus is saying, it is just normal for you to call your dad and
00:37:57.100 to talk to your dad.
00:37:58.580 And then they just happen to be sitting with every, again, I love this line from James Comer.
00:38:04.160 They, Joe Biden himself, talked to every single person that has wired money to the Bidens.
00:38:09.560 Well, you know, I got to say that that clown parade that you just played, every person
00:38:16.760 on it should, if there was a card to be a journalist, they should hand in their cards.
00:38:22.460 They don't get to pretend to be journalists anymore.
00:38:24.920 They are propagandists.
00:38:26.040 They are cheerleaders. 1.00
00:38:27.020 They are professional liars for the White House. 0.99
00:38:29.340 This is normal. 0.98
00:38:30.220 Nothing to see.
00:38:31.020 You know, one of them, this isn't a high crime and misdemeanor.
00:38:33.100 It's not even a low crime or misdemeanor.
00:38:34.480 No, let's be clear.
00:38:35.320 Getting paid $5 million or $10 million, five to you and five to your son, for official
00:38:40.500 favors when you're vice president of the United States, that's bribery.
00:38:45.660 Bribery is, in fact, a high crime or misdemeanor.
00:38:48.280 The Constitution says you can be impeached for treason and bribery or other high crimes
00:38:52.360 or misdemeanors.
00:38:53.000 So both treason and bribery are, in fact, high crimes or misdemeanors.
00:38:55.980 But bribery is explicitly enumerated. 0.63
00:38:58.640 And every one of those clowns is ignoring the fact that Devin Archer, if what he has said 0.92
00:39:02.920 is true, testified that Joe Biden has been lying for years and brazenly lying, never 0.96
00:39:09.480 talked, never talked, never talked, never once talked to Hunter about any of his business
00:39:13.520 dealings. 0.95
00:39:13.900 Well, yeah, sat down at Cafe Milano with, like, every corrupt Russian and Ukrainian you could 1.00
00:39:18.420 find. 0.99
00:39:18.880 I mean, like, holy cow.
00:39:22.100 You know, it's one thing.
00:39:25.140 Listen, there are lots of people in Washington who have a ne'er-to-well kid who goes and is
00:39:32.100 a lobbyist for some big company and is selling influence on K Street.
00:39:37.260 Sadly, that is quite common.
00:39:39.780 I'll tell you what's not common is going and seeking out the Chinese communists, going and 0.64
00:39:45.260 seeking out corrupt oligarchs, going and seeking out enemies of America and shaking them down
00:39:51.220 for millions of dollars. 0.96
00:39:52.460 And to be clear, look, Devin's Archer testimony makes clear Hunter Biden didn't know a damn
00:39:57.120 thing about Burisma. 0.92
00:39:58.040 He didn't know a damn thing about oil and gas. 0.97
00:39:59.760 He didn't know a damn thing about Ukraine. 0.97
00:40:01.180 He couldn't speak Ukrainian. 0.89
00:40:02.260 His value was one value only, that he could dial up the phone and get Joe on the phone,
00:40:09.240 and Joe would take the call and jump on the speakerphone and then act.
00:40:15.020 And let's remember what a bribe is, quid pro quo, the phrase the Democrats made famous in
00:40:21.720 the first impeachment trial of Trump.
00:40:23.260 This for that, the FD-1023 and Devin Archer's testimony both indicate that Burisma wanted
00:40:33.900 help with the government pressure from Ukraine, specifically the prosecutor Victor Shokin that
00:40:39.060 was going after him that had frozen the oligarchs' assets.
00:40:42.440 And we know that the quo happened.
00:40:47.080 We know that Joe Biden went to Ukraine and held up a billion dollars in federal government
00:40:54.780 loan guarantees until the Ukrainian president fired that prosecutor. 0.95
00:40:59.960 Joe Biden, in the famous son-of-a-bitch interview, has bragged about that. 0.96
00:41:04.560 So the quo part is undisputed, and it's admitted. 0.98
00:41:09.060 The only part that is even slightly in dispute is the quid part.
00:41:13.540 Was, in fact, $5 million paid to Hunter and $5 million paid to Joe in exchange for that?
00:41:18.500 If the answer to that is yes, then Joe Biden is guilty of bribery. 0.92
00:41:22.720 And every one of those clowns desperately wants to cover that up because they're not even 0.94
00:41:29.880 pretending to be journalists anymore. 0.94
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00:43:14.400 Senator, lastly, Michael Reagan put out a very interesting tweet.
00:43:17.660 Michael Reagan is Ronald Reagan's son.
00:43:20.260 He said, quote,
00:43:21.440 In the eight years that my father was president of the United States, I never once sat in the
00:43:25.980 room with business associates and called him on the phone.
00:43:29.960 If I had, the Democrats would have skewered me.
00:43:32.580 He's absolutely right.
00:43:33.620 And the media.
00:43:34.440 And then they would have tried to impeach Ronald Reagan, I'm sure, if that would have been
00:43:38.080 the case.
00:43:38.580 And I think Ronald Reagan's point is, look just how much has changed in this country from
00:43:43.360 when we had a free press compared to the socialist press we have now and what you can now get
00:43:50.200 away with that no one could have gotten away with back in the 80s or the 90s or even the
00:43:56.000 early 2000s.
00:43:57.240 Look, that's exactly right.
00:43:59.060 And it's worth understanding that the objective of the Democrats, the objective of the Biden
00:44:04.960 DOJ, the objective of the corporate media, it's all the same, which is to protect the big guy, to
00:44:11.220 protect Joe Biden.
00:44:13.300 We've talked at length on this podcast about how Hunter Biden's personal troubles, his
00:44:20.380 substance abuse, this is a troubled soul.
00:44:24.100 That's not an issue of national news.
00:44:26.600 If he were just another guy struggling with his demons, OK, there are lots of people who
00:44:31.540 deal with that.
00:44:33.380 The reason this is an issue of public concern is it directly implicates official corruption
00:44:38.640 by the then vice president of the United States and the current president of the United States.
00:44:43.520 And Joe Biden is complicit.
00:44:46.080 He is an active participant.
00:44:47.920 You know, one of the exchanges, I think it was Eugene Robinson, who's on Morning Joe, is
00:44:52.060 saying, well, gosh, Joe might have said, well, why do you keep putting me on the phone?
00:44:56.220 Stop that.
00:44:57.840 Well, Joe didn't say that, because when it happens over and over and over again, Joe's 0.99
00:45:05.540 not a moron. 0.92
00:45:06.800 He understands why Hunter Biden is putting him on the phone with these oligarchs, with 1.00
00:45:14.540 these people who are paying his son millions of dollars.
00:45:17.640 And by the way, it's not just getting on the phone.
00:45:19.600 He goes to these dinners at Cafe Milano where they're all sitting there.
00:45:22.900 I mean, he he understands full well.
00:45:26.480 This is business generation and it's business generation where they're seeking very specific
00:45:33.540 favors from Joe Biden in his official capacity.
00:45:38.560 Remember the WhatsApp encrypted message where he said, I am sitting here next to my father.
00:45:45.480 And if you don't pay me the money, my father, I don't have the language right in front of
00:45:50.480 me, but will punish the living daylights out of you to paraphrase it roughly.
00:45:56.540 It was very clear.
00:45:59.100 Hunter was selling carrot and stick.
00:46:02.200 The carrot is pay me and daddy will do favors for you. 0.99
00:46:08.260 The stick was don't pay me and daddy will harm you using the official power of government.
00:46:17.540 If that is, in fact, what happened and every day the evidence is making it more and more
00:46:23.440 likely that is what happened.
00:46:25.600 That is the very essence of corruption.
00:46:27.860 And I want to I want everyone just to ask yourself something.
00:46:32.300 So for the bulk of this podcast, what we did is I simply read excerpts from Devin Archer's
00:46:37.880 testimony.
00:46:38.760 By the way, the full transcripts much longer than that.
00:46:42.440 I just just selected some key excerpts that were particularly newsworthy.
00:46:47.920 I want you to ask yourself, did you read any of these excerpts in the newspaper?
00:46:53.260 Did you see any of these excerpts on the six o'clock news?
00:46:59.180 Did you see any of them on CNN or MSNBC?
00:47:03.920 No, they don't cover actual news.
00:47:08.240 But I guarantee you, you saw all of them hyperventilating with joy about yet another indictment of Donald
00:47:17.000 Trump.
00:47:17.380 Every one of those journalists should be ashamed because they're no longer practicing
00:47:24.200 journalism.
00:47:25.160 Yeah, journalism is dead in this country.
00:47:26.860 There's no doubt about it.
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00:47:31.200 We're going to keep covering this.
00:47:33.080 We will also cover more on the Trump indictments.
00:47:36.420 But this Devin Archer testimony is something they want to push out of the headlines.
00:47:41.080 We refuse to let that happen.
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