00:03:18.060And this is I'm so glad that the Trump team did this to remind people we actually did this on the show, Senator, just a couple of days ago.
00:03:27.500They're not even trying to hide how biased they are.
00:03:31.340It's like, all right, you do something exposing the Biden crime family.
00:03:35.240We're going to put Donald Trump in prison for now.
00:03:41.420It's actually like pretty close to the number.
00:03:43.120If he's found guilty on everything, they're not hiding it at all.
00:03:46.640Yeah, but you can understand the objective is not to put Donald Trump in prison for a day.
00:03:51.040The objective, Joe Biden's political objective, Merrick Garland's political objective.
00:03:56.340Number one, they want Trump to win the primary, and they have recognized that every time they indict him, his numbers go up in the Republican primary.
00:04:03.780But number two, the reason, one of the key reasons they want him to win the primary is they want in September and October of next year, right before Election Day, they want ideally multiple criminal trials ongoing.
00:04:21.120They want all of the headlines to be about anything other than the disastrous Joe Biden record.
00:04:27.800They don't want to talk about the chaos at our southern border and 7 million illegal immigrants under Joe Biden.
00:04:32.900They don't want to talk about the train wreck that is Bidenomics, including seeing the U.S. credit rating downgraded after Biden and the Democrats engaged in trillions of dollars of a reckless spending spree.
00:04:44.340They don't want to talk about rising crime rates because of their assault on law enforcement and police across this country.
00:04:51.640They don't want to talk about the disaster of foreign policy, including the largest land war in Europe since World War II.
00:04:57.120They don't want to talk about the shameful surrender to the Taliban and withdraw in Afghanistan.
00:05:04.200They don't want to talk about how every enemy of America is stronger today and how Joe Biden has weakened and undermined our allies across the country.
00:05:12.380None of that do they want the conversation to be about.
00:05:15.320They want the conversation to be about today in the criminal trial against Donald Trump.
00:05:19.940Here's the horrible testimony we heard.
00:05:24.500And that we've talked a lot in this podcast about how the far left, what they accuse you of is what they're doing.
00:05:34.240That is an assault on democracy because they don't trust the voters.
00:05:38.560They don't want the voters to vote on Biden's record, because if we vote on Biden's record, Biden loses.
00:05:44.880Instead, they want to use the Department of Justice to steal the election.
00:05:51.620And let's be clear, they're trying to steal it by dominating the headlines, by bringing the full force of the federal government to bring case after case after case.
00:06:02.420And listen, we talked about on Wednesday's podcast how the objective of this latest indictment isn't to send Trump to jail.
00:06:12.440It is rather to bring this case before a D.C. jury that is overwhelmingly Democrat, that overwhelmingly despises Donald Trump.
00:06:20.840They got lucky and they got one of the most left wing, if not the most left wing federal district judge in D.C., who presumably is going to rule against Trump over and over and over again.
00:06:30.100And there's a very real possibility they get a guilty verdict from a D.C. jury.
00:06:36.460And in their perfect world, they'd like that guilty verdict maybe about October 20th of next year would would be the Democrat dream scenario.
00:06:46.260Now, they know full well if there is a guilty verdict when that goes up on appeal and when it gets up to the Supreme Court.
00:06:53.560It is overwhelmingly likely to be thrown out that this this indictment is an indictment for challenging the results of an election, which you're entitled to do, which Democrats do after election, after election, after election.
00:07:06.860It's an indictment for engaging in free speech and Donald Trump standing up and expressing his views about voter fraud.
00:07:12.900It's an indictment saying it is criminal that he did not believe some of the advice he was given.
00:07:19.040You read the indictment and it's really laughable.
00:07:20.780It says, well, Trump knew his claims were false because so and so told them he they were false.
00:07:25.620Now, mind you, he had other people telling him they were true.
00:07:28.700And according to the Biden Department of Justice, if you pick the wrong person to listen to, that is now suddenly a criminal offense.
00:07:42.020And so we talked about in Wednesday's pod how you and I sat down Tuesday afternoon to record Wednesday's pod and the entire topic was going to be about Devin Archer, that it was major news breaking.
00:07:55.700And as we were sitting down, we were about to record it.
00:08:05.280And not only was it successful in clearing Devin Archer off of the six o'clock news on every station, which it probably would have done anyway, but it even cleared it off of this podcast where we had to devote Wednesday's podcast to that indictment, which meant we didn't get to Devin Archer.
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00:10:23.400Senator, let's get into Devin Archer here.
00:10:26.740And when you look at his testimony, give me a couple of your big takeaways of what was said that was even shocking to you.
00:10:35.280Just an overall recap of how insane his testimony actually was.
00:10:40.860Well, the biggest and most consequential thing that Devin Archer testified to is that Joe Biden has been lying to the American people for years,
00:10:49.160and the Biden White House has been lying to the American people for years.
00:10:52.220That when Joe Biden said he had never discussed any of Hunter's overseas business deals, dealings with Hunter Biden,
00:10:59.200assuming Devin Archer is telling the truth, Joe Biden was flat out lying.
00:11:03.380That he had had roughly 20 conversations that Devin Archer was aware of.
00:11:08.680That is bombshell testimony because it goes right to the heart of Joe Biden's central defense that, gosh, this was just Hunter doing his thing.
00:11:21.780And listen, I think the best way to do this is to actually walk systematically through some of the testimony.
00:11:28.080So Devin Archer met Hunter Biden sometime between 2000 and 2004.
00:11:35.600And Devin Archer became involved in Burisma in 2014 when he joined the Burisma board.
00:11:41.340And the relationship started when Michalaz Lochefsky and Vadim Poscharski were on the target list of potential investors
00:11:54.640in a fund that was known as Rosemont Real Estate Acquisition Fund 1.
00:12:00.380He also confirmed that the former president of Poland, Alexander Kwasniewski, joined the Burisma board.
00:12:10.460And notably, this same point was in the FD-1023 that the FBI prepared.
00:12:17.660So this is one level of concurrence between those two.
00:12:21.480Devin Archer described how he flew to Warsaw in March of 2014 to meet with Kwasniewski and to discuss Devin Archer's joining Burisma's board.
00:12:31.980And he said that he recalled Hunter Biden referring to President Biden as, quote, my guy when shown the email he received from Hunter Biden on April 12th.
00:15:18.080Well, I think there was, there are particular, you know, objectives that Burisma was trying to accomplish.
00:15:23.720And a lot of it's about opening doors, you know, globally in D.C.
00:15:26.520And I think that, you know, that was the, you know, and then obviously having those doors open, you know, sent the right signals, you know, for Burisma to, you know, carry on its business and be successful.
00:15:55.500He just testified to Congress that Burisma, the Ukrainian natural gas company owned by a corrupt Ukrainian oligarch, would have gone out of business if it didn't have the brand.
00:16:06.880What is the brand Joe Biden attached to it?
00:16:09.920So, there's a reason they paid Hunter a million bucks a year because attaching Joe Biden's name to the company kept the company solvent.
00:16:19.000Archer continues, that's my, like, only honest opinion, but I have no basis for any, never heard any conversations.
00:16:27.300And then, then you see the Democrats jump in and Representative Goldman.
00:16:33.720And Goldman, who was the lead lawyer for the Democrats in the Trump impeachments, and he's now a baby freshman Democrat representative from New York, he's decided his job is to be Hunter Biden's lawyer.
00:16:46.840And so, he's jumping in and he says, well, but that's different than Joe Biden's action because, you know, Goldman's, Representative Goldman's job is to defend Joe Biden and Hunter Biden.
00:20:57.440And on top of the fact that, Senator, we've got to talk about this, they still have not been on the sanction list while all these other Russian oligarchs have been sanctioned.
00:21:07.620She has not been sanctioned yet every time the sanctions list come out.
00:21:12.680So, if you want to know what you get for the money, the $3.5 million, right, or the other money for the car, apparently this is what you get.
00:21:19.480So, just to be clear, what you're saying is that Joe Biden has sanctioned numerous Russian oligarchs, and they happen to be the Russian oligarchs, that didn't pay Hunter Biden millions of dollars, or hundreds of thousands of dollars.
00:21:41.220Yeah, I mean, and that's, yes, and the Suspicious Activity Reports, by the way, back this up.
00:21:45.020The House Oversight Committee backs it up.
00:21:47.080You had three, and the emails from Joe Biden, or say Hunter Biden's laptop, clearly showed $3.5 million was wired in February of 2014 by the former First Lady of Moscow, again, Yelena Batarina, who attended at least, at least, that's the part here I also find interesting, Senator, at least one dinner.
00:22:06.060With then-Vice President Biden and his son, and was, in turn, transferred to a firm co-owned by Archer and Hunter Biden after its initial receipt by an entity that Biden defenders had insisted was solely controlled by Devin Archer, so they also lied about who was controlling the money when it came in.
00:22:44.180That dinner was, I think we went over it before, but it was Vadim, it was Hunter, Joe, myself, Kareem, Massimov, a Greek Orthodox priest, maybe someone from the World Food Program.
00:23:04.980And there was, on that one, I believe the first one was like a birthday dinner, and the second was, I think we were supposed to talk about the World Food Program.
00:23:39.660And the home renovations, apparently, were flowing from Hunter Biden's bank account for his dad's home in Delaware.
00:23:46.420And that's another part of this whole idea, like, oh, they never were funneling money to one another, or they never were, quote, in business together.
00:23:53.160As the White House just recently said, again, another example of the lies coming from the Biden crime family and coming from the podium at the White House.
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00:25:21.820All right, the next exchange gets even more damning if that's possible.
00:25:26.500Majority counsel, how many times would you say Hunter Biden put his father on speakerphone or referenced his father being on the phone in front of others who were either foreign investors or foreign nationals who he is soliciting business with or working with approximately?
00:25:48.040The differentiation between investor and normal course of the day, you know, it's very hard to speculate on, but he, they spoke every day.
00:25:56.940He acknowledged that they spoke every day and he would, you know, he would sometimes make it apparent that he spoke to his dad.
00:26:03.140And sometimes he put them on speaker, but as far as quantifying the number, you know, relative to investors, I don't know.
00:26:10.580Majority counsel, not necessarily investors, but with people who Hunter Biden was trying to either get business with or make contacts with or add value to.
00:26:22.640He said 20 times Hunter Biden would put Joe Biden on the phone with people he was trying to get business with or make contacts with or add value to.
00:26:53.120But if I were to just call my dad right now and put him on speakerphone and we're in a professional business meeting here, would that be odd to you?
00:27:21.020When you're in a personal meeting and you may call your dad or a family member if you're with family.
00:27:25.620But if you're in a professional meeting and you're meeting foreign business leaders or whoever it may be and you just place your dad on speakerphone on the table, that's a little odd, isn't it?
00:28:05.020You know, if you're Jamie Dimon's son or any CEO, you know, I think that's what we're talking about here is that there was brand being delivered along with other capabilities and reach.
00:28:15.320I think brand is the best way to describe it.
00:28:22.980Going back to the calls that Hunter Biden would put on speakerphone with his father and others.
00:28:29.160Can you describe what the other people would say?
00:28:31.460And if you can recall, after Hunter Biden did that, because I'll tell you, just from an everyday American, if someone put the vice president of the United States on the phone right in front of you, it'd be pretty impressive.
00:28:53.400Yeah, I think everybody, I think everybody remains, you know, cool and calm like it was, you know, and then probably called their friends and family and said they spoke to him.
00:29:04.440But, you know, the reaction, I don't have any specifics of like people jumping up and giving high fives.
00:29:09.780But I think it was, you know, a signal that, you know, they respected and thought was a value.
00:29:15.600All right, finally, three more lines of questioning where it concerned the objective to get help from D.C.