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Verdict with Ted Cruz
- February 24, 2023
Media Lies & Hypocrisy: From Don Lemon to Andrea Mitchell to the NYT
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This is an iHeart Podcast.
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Guaranteed human.
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Welcome. It is a verdict with Senator Tate Cruz.
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Ben Ferguson with you.
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And Senator, you and I were chatting before the show
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that it's been one hell of a week for the corrupt media,
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and they've just been stepping in it all week long.
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Well, listen, it's one of the most dangerous aspects
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in our democracy today,
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is that we no longer have a free and independent media.
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We no longer have a media that engages in actual journalism,
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and I don't think that's hyperbole.
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You know, there was a time when people in the media
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viewed their mission as reporting both sides,
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as reporting the facts, and letting you decide.
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There was a time when journalists were trained
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to focus on the facts, the who, what, where, when,
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why, and not focus on editorializing.
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That no longer is the mission of the corporate media.
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The corporate media today, they have embraced their view
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as propagandists.
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They have embraced their view as partisans.
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And in fact, when it comes to partisans,
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I think the corporate media are the most vicious leftists there are.
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They will criticize the Democrat Party for one thing and one thing only,
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and that's not being leftist enough.
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They view their job as drive them to the left.
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And they also are the attack dogs.
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And I got to say, when they're engaged in attacks,
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their bigotry comes out,
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their ignorance comes out,
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their despising of anyone who isn't a leftist comes out.
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And it really, the double standard is profound.
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Yeah, you look at this week,
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and just one of those perfect examples
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is what happened with Don Lemon.
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And to be clear, before we play this,
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if a Republican, if a conservative,
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would have said this on TV,
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I have no doubt that they would have been fired.
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In fact, I can even say,
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if I was at CNN and I was there for seven years,
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if I would have said what I'm about to play for you,
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I would have immediately been shown the door.
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And yet, Don Lemon gets to come back without an apology.
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Take a listen.
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It's all the talk about age makes me uncomfortable.
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I think that, I think it's the wrong road to go down.
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She says people, you know,
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politicians or something are not in their prime.
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Nikki Haley is in her prime.
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Sorry.
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A woman is considered to be in her prime in her 20s and 30s and maybe 40s.
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What are you talking about?
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That's not according to me.
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Prime for what?
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It depends.
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I mean, it's just like prime.
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If you look it up,
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if you Google when is a woman in her prime,
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it'll say 20s, 30s, and 40s.
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I don't necessarily...
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40s. Oh, I got another decade.
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I agree with that.
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So I think she has to be careful about saying that,
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you know, politicians aren't in their prime in their 80s.
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I think we need to qualify.
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Are you talking about prime for like child-bearing?
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Or are you talking about prime for being president?
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The facts are Google it.
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Everybody at home,
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when is a woman in her prime,
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it says 20s, 30s, and 40s.
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And I'm just saying Nikki Haley should be careful about saying
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that politicians are not in their prime
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and they need to be in their prime when they serve
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because she wouldn't be in her prime,
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according to Google or whatever it is.
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Now, I love it because they're even mocking him on the set.
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They can't believe he's actually saying this.
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They're obviously trying to protect him in a sense.
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But then he doesn't even have to apologize,
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Senator, and he gets his job back, right?
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Well, look, his comments there are drippingly misogynistic.
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You know, Joe Biden is, what, 142 years old.
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And according to him, apparently Biden is in his prime.
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But he's willing to suggest that once a woman hits her 40s,
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by her 50s, she's over the hill,
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just, you know, put her out to pasture.
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And there's a reason he's willing to say that
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because he doesn't consider Nikki Haley a woman.
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It's the point we made on the pod we just did with Wesley Hunt.
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Don Lemon does not consider Wesley Hunt to be a black man.
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Don Lemon does not consider me to be Hispanic.
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If you dare to be conservative,
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the left erases you from whatever victim class they want to put.
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And they put everyone in victim classes, but they define it.
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You're only black if you're a leftist.
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As Joe Biden said, if you're not voting for Joe Biden, you ain't black.
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I mean, what a bigoted thing to say.
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Don Lemon, I promise you, despises Clarence Thomas.
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Why?
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Because he dares, as a black man, to be a conservative.
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And Don Lemon not only despises Nikki Haley,
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but he views her with a particular,
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if it were just a white guy,
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fine, he could live with that.
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Old, fat, bald, white guys are the one group
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they think are allowed to be conservatives.
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But if you're a woman, you're a traitor.
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And so his comments
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reveal the particular contempt.
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You know,
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the differential of how the left treats
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Clarence Thomas versus how they treated Antonin Scalia.
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Antonin Scalia was a strong conservative,
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was brilliant.
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And the left didn't like him,
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but they didn't react.
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You know, you had one magazine
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that portrayed Clarence Thomas
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as an Uncle Tom,
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basically shining the shoes
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of Antonin Scalia.
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That's bigoted and racist,
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but they are right.
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Contempt is their feeling.
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And so after he made these comments,
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CNN realized,
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uh-oh, he stepped in it.
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Now, you're right, Ben.
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If you'd said the exact same thing,
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if you read his words on air,
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they would have fired you
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probably before you were finished speaking.
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Yeah.
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But for Don Levin,
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because he's a leftist,
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and because he was attacking a Republican,
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all is fine and good.
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So he put out a tweet.
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I want to read the tweet he made.
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The reference I made to a woman's prime this morning
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was inartful and irrelevant,
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as colleagues and loved ones have pointed out.
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And I regret it.
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A woman's age doesn't define her
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either personally or professionally.
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I have countless women in my life
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who prove that every day.
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Now, this statement is several things.
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I'll tell you what it is not.
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An apology.
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Nowhere in there are the words,
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I'm sorry.
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Nowhere in the words are,
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I'm a bumbling, left-wing,
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hypocritical, misogynist jackass,
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which is what he should have said.
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You know what he also doesn't say?
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That what he said was wrong.
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What he says is,
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it's inartful.
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In other words,
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may have been true in his mind,
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but he didn't express it quite as artfully,
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as elegantly as he might have.
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And he said,
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and irrelevant.
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Now, irrelevant doesn't mean wrong either.
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It just means,
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well, I shouldn't have pointed it out
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because, I don't know,
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it's not relevant
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because people criticized me.
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And he goes on.
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He says,
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and I regret it.
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He doesn't say,
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I'm sorry.
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He doesn't apologize to Nikki Haley,
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to women.
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He doesn't apologize.
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And then he says,
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a woman's age doesn't define her
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either personally or professionally.
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Well,
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he still isn't disagreeing
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with his asinine statement.
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Look,
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my wife Heidi turned 50 last year.
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Heidi Cruz is absolutely in her prime.
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In fact,
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Heidi is going to run a marathon
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next month
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to celebrate turning 50.
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Margaret Thatcher,
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who last I checked,
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wasn't in her 20s
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or 30s or 40s.
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And she was in her prime.
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Unbelievable leader.
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You want to talk about a woman
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who bestrode the earth
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like a colossus,
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who along with Reagan
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and Pope John Paul
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changed the course
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of human history.
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But you know what?
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Don Lemon doesn't think
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she was in her prime
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because she's not a woman.
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Why?
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Because she's conservative
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and you don't count
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as a woman for leftists.
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And then the amazing thing
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is what does CNN do?
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They take him off the air
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for two days
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and then back on air
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because it's a double standard
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that only applies
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to one political side of the aisle.
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There was something
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that I laugh about
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because I woke up
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this morning
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to a text
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from a former colleague of mine
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at CNN
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and it said
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please check
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Don Lemon's Twitter.
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And at 4.35 a.m.
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he took so much heat
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from the tweet
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that you just read
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that he then put out
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a new tweet
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and this is what it said.
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I appreciate the opportunity
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to be back on CNN
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this morning today.
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To my network,
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my colleagues
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and our incredible audience,
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I'm sorry.
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I've heard you.
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I'm learning from you
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and I'm committed
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to doing better.
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See you soon.
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Yet he still can't
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bring himself
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to actually apologize
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to the person
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he originally offended.
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So even the,
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like, okay,
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I gotta fix it.
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Let me be clear, Ben.
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It's not just Nikki Haley
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who, I mean,
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he did insult her
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by saying she's not in her prime.
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But he insulted
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every woman
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in her 50s,
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in her 60s,
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in her 70s.
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What an asinine statement.
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By the way,
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under the Constitution,
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the minimum age
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to be president
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of the United States
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is 35.
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So I guess
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in Don Lemon's world,
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there is a 15-year window
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when a woman
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in her prime
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is allowed
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to be president
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between 35
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and 49 and a half.
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Like,
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what an asinine proposition.
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And mind you,
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Joe Biden,
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they don't think
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anything of it.
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Hillary Clinton,
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I guarantee you,
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Don Lemon never said,
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you know what,
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Hillary Clinton
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wasn't in her 40s
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when she ran for president.
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It's an absolute
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double standard.
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No,
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it certainly is.
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And by the way,
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Don Lemon
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wasn't the only one
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to step in it this week.
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had her own
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Let me ask you,
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what does Governor
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Ron DeSantis
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not know
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about black history
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and the black experience
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when he says
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that slavery
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and the aftermath
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of slavery
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should not be taught
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to Florida school children?
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I don't know
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what he knows
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and what he doesn't know
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but I know this.
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Any push
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to censor
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America's teachers
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and tell them
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what they should be teaching
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in the best interest
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of our children
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in partnership
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with the parents
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of America
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is I think
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wrong headed.
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The people
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who know
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our children best
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are their parents
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they've placed
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in the brains
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and capacity
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of our children
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who are our nation's future
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and it should not
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be some politician
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saying what should
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be taught
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in our classrooms
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and I mean
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this story
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the problem
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with it is
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it's not true
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Senator
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as you pointed out
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so there are
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lots of problems
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with it.
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Number one
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Andrea Mitchell
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is
00:13:08.840
the question
00:13:10.000
is incredibly
00:13:10.880
ignorant
00:13:11.480
like what she's
00:13:13.100
saying
00:13:13.540
it's not even
00:13:14.000
just a little bit
00:13:15.020
not true
00:13:15.600
it's a total
00:13:16.360
blatant lie
00:13:17.200
but it is a
00:13:18.500
blatant lie
00:13:19.380
based on
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her assumptions
00:13:22.400
that all
00:13:23.900
Republicans
00:13:24.520
are ignorant
00:13:25.900
Philistines
00:13:26.900
who don't want
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history taught
00:13:30.240
in any way
00:13:31.120
who don't want
00:13:33.480
who don't want
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slavery
00:13:36.000
or the aftermath
00:13:36.880
of slavery
00:13:37.720
taught.
00:13:38.640
Now
00:13:38.780
of course
00:13:40.240
Florida schools
00:13:41.560
teach about slavery
00:13:42.520
and the aftermath
00:13:43.460
of slavery
00:13:44.040
and by the way
00:13:44.840
you want to talk
00:13:45.880
about who wants
00:13:46.620
to cover up
00:13:47.240
history
00:13:47.680
Andrea
00:13:49.100
who was it
00:13:51.220
that signed
00:13:52.300
the Emancipation
00:13:53.220
Proclamation
00:13:53.740
oh yeah
00:13:54.320
that was Abraham
00:13:54.900
Lincoln
00:13:55.260
that was the
00:13:55.760
first Republican
00:13:56.480
president
00:13:57.000
who was it
00:13:58.360
that founded
00:13:58.900
the Ku Klux Klan
00:13:59.840
oh yeah
00:14:00.320
those were
00:14:00.940
Democrat politicians
00:14:02.060
who was it
00:14:03.180
that wrote
00:14:03.680
the Jim Crow
00:14:04.340
laws
00:14:04.700
oh yeah
00:14:05.200
those were
00:14:05.860
Democrat
00:14:06.300
politicians
00:14:07.000
who was it
00:14:08.280
that eulogized
00:14:09.500
an exalted
00:14:10.240
Cyclops
00:14:11.080
of the Ku Klux
00:14:12.120
Klan
00:14:12.560
Robert Byrd
00:14:13.540
oh yeah
00:14:14.100
that was
00:14:14.500
Joe Biden
00:14:15.100
the sitting
00:14:15.560
Democrat
00:14:16.040
president
00:14:16.500
of the United
00:14:16.940
States
00:14:17.320
you want to
00:14:17.700
talk about
00:14:18.160
who doesn't
00:14:18.620
want to deal
00:14:19.040
with slavery
00:14:19.520
in the aftermath
00:14:20.080
of slavery
00:14:20.820
it is Andrea
00:14:21.780
Mitchell
00:14:22.080
who's never
00:14:22.540
reported
00:14:23.020
on any
00:14:23.900
of those
00:14:24.360
facts
00:14:24.740
the absurdity
00:14:25.860
of saying
00:14:27.680
that Republicans
00:14:29.120
in this case
00:14:29.740
Ron DeSantis
00:14:30.400
don't want
00:14:31.340
the fact
00:14:31.860
of slavery
00:14:32.440
taught
00:14:32.900
is deliberately
00:14:35.860
ignorant
00:14:36.620
and it's based
00:14:37.680
on the same
00:14:38.260
assumption
00:14:38.660
look
00:14:39.020
what she
00:14:40.280
is doing
00:14:40.820
and what
00:14:41.180
Don Lemon
00:14:41.700
did
00:14:42.080
are the
00:14:42.500
exact
00:14:42.900
same
00:14:43.280
thing
00:14:43.700
they have
00:14:44.720
contempt
00:14:45.560
for anyone
00:14:46.920
who isn't
00:14:47.660
a leftist
00:14:48.500
and
00:14:49.700
they assume
00:14:52.620
these
00:14:53.340
ridiculous
00:14:54.320
caricatures
00:14:55.440
so for
00:14:57.800
example
00:14:58.260
Ben
00:14:58.560
I'll go
00:14:59.260
back to
00:14:59.820
2021
00:15:00.580
where
00:15:02.540
Andrea
00:15:04.340
Mitchell
00:15:06.140
again
00:15:06.720
tweets out
00:15:07.500
I had
00:15:07.920
commented
00:15:08.460
about
00:15:08.940
the
00:15:09.260
Trump
00:15:09.940
impeachment
00:15:10.400
trial
00:15:10.900
the second
00:15:12.140
trial
00:15:12.600
and I
00:15:13.180
said
00:15:13.740
it was
00:15:15.140
as
00:15:15.380
Shakespeare
00:15:15.840
put it
00:15:16.540
full of
00:15:17.480
sound
00:15:17.780
and fury
00:15:18.300
and signifying
00:15:19.060
nothing
00:15:19.440
now
00:15:20.540
Andrea
00:15:21.200
Mitchell
00:15:21.500
jumps on
00:15:22.040
Twitter
00:15:22.320
and she
00:15:22.640
tweets
00:15:22.920
the following
00:15:23.540
Ted Cruz
00:15:25.040
says
00:15:25.420
impeachment
00:15:25.900
trial
00:15:26.340
is like
00:15:26.800
Shakespeare
00:15:27.280
full of
00:15:28.300
sound
00:15:28.580
and fury
00:15:29.140
signifying
00:15:30.060
nothing
00:15:30.460
no
00:15:31.960
that's
00:15:33.100
Faulkner
00:15:34.040
now
00:15:35.560
that's
00:15:36.180
her
00:15:36.340
response
00:15:37.040
now
00:15:38.120
she
00:15:39.140
I
00:15:40.380
actually
00:15:40.800
let a
00:15:41.180
little bit
00:15:41.560
of time
00:15:42.100
elapse
00:15:42.680
because
00:15:43.180
Twitter
00:15:43.800
was really
00:15:44.300
wonderful
00:15:44.780
in that
00:15:45.260
and that
00:15:45.500
everyone
00:15:45.880
piled on
00:15:46.760
and pointed
00:15:47.220
out that
00:15:47.800
no you
00:15:49.020
fool
00:15:49.780
that is
00:15:50.480
in fact
00:15:51.180
from
00:15:52.500
William
00:15:52.820
Shakespeare
00:15:53.340
from
00:15:55.420
Macbeth
00:15:56.120
life is a
00:15:56.680
tale
00:15:56.900
told by
00:15:57.680
an idiot
00:15:58.120
full of
00:15:58.600
sound
00:15:58.880
and fury
00:15:59.600
and signifying
00:16:00.280
nothing
00:16:00.680
and Faulkner
00:16:01.480
when
00:16:02.440
he wrote
00:16:03.580
the sound
00:16:04.100
and the
00:16:04.340
fury
00:16:04.660
was
00:16:05.140
quoting
00:16:05.600
from
00:16:06.020
Shakespeare
00:16:06.560
so
00:16:08.160
Mitchell
00:16:08.560
finally
00:16:09.100
when the
00:16:09.440
entire
00:16:09.700
world
00:16:10.000
pounded
00:16:10.400
on her
00:16:10.660
how
00:16:10.820
ridiculous
00:16:11.220
she
00:16:11.500
was
00:16:11.720
she
00:16:11.900
sends
00:16:12.240
out
00:16:12.480
this
00:16:12.720
sort
00:16:13.700
of
00:16:13.820
apology
00:16:14.180
tweet
00:16:14.560
I
00:16:15.400
clearly
00:16:15.720
studied
00:16:16.140
too much
00:16:16.560
American
00:16:16.940
literature
00:16:17.360
and not
00:16:17.760
enough
00:16:19.040
Macbeth
00:16:19.640
my apologies
00:16:21.140
to Senator
00:16:21.720
Cruz
00:16:22.080
now
00:16:22.400
look
00:16:23.020
I don't
00:16:23.480
care about
00:16:23.940
the fact
00:16:24.380
that she
00:16:24.680
gets this
00:16:25.160
wrong
00:16:25.520
but it
00:16:26.840
reveals a
00:16:27.480
mindset
00:16:27.920
which is
00:16:29.200
listen
00:16:29.460
you can
00:16:29.960
disagree with
00:16:31.220
me
00:16:31.420
you think
00:16:31.780
can think
00:16:32.140
I'm wrong
00:16:32.540
I'm probably
00:16:33.000
wrong about
00:16:33.420
a lot of
00:16:33.740
things in
00:16:34.080
life
00:16:34.300
certainly
00:16:34.680
my wife
00:16:36.220
and daughters
00:16:36.620
would tell
00:16:37.000
you I am
00:16:37.460
but
00:16:38.060
Mitchell
00:16:40.200
among all
00:16:41.920
the criticisms
00:16:42.660
I think it
00:16:43.400
would be
00:16:43.780
difficult to
00:16:44.740
make the
00:16:45.180
case
00:16:45.720
that I'm
00:16:46.900
an illiterate
00:16:47.520
imbecile
00:16:48.040
I might be
00:16:49.580
misguided
00:16:50.100
I might be
00:16:50.540
mistaken
00:16:51.060
but I did
00:16:53.320
manage to
00:16:54.100
pass the
00:16:54.620
third grade
00:16:55.260
and
00:16:56.700
but to
00:16:57.840
Andrea Mitchell's
00:16:59.260
mind
00:16:59.760
and any
00:17:00.400
Republican
00:17:01.160
is an
00:17:02.700
oaf
00:17:03.040
is a
00:17:03.820
bigot
00:17:04.260
is an
00:17:05.060
imp
00:17:05.200
so the
00:17:05.620
sort of
00:17:06.040
her
00:17:06.740
ignorant
00:17:07.320
dripping
00:17:07.780
no that's
00:17:08.720
Faulkner
00:17:09.300
no my
00:17:11.220
dear
00:17:11.520
I
00:17:12.000
actually
00:17:12.900
have
00:17:13.240
studied
00:17:13.700
literature
00:17:14.260
and
00:17:14.940
it
00:17:16.420
shows
00:17:17.000
a
00:17:17.240
mindset
00:17:17.620
and by
00:17:18.020
the way
00:17:18.460
let's
00:17:19.700
go back
00:17:20.140
to Kamala
00:17:20.620
Harris's
00:17:21.120
answer
00:17:21.660
after you
00:17:22.160
see
00:17:22.520
Mitchell's
00:17:23.300
dripping
00:17:24.600
condescension
00:17:25.400
for the
00:17:25.740
state of
00:17:26.020
Florida
00:17:26.300
and
00:17:27.540
notice by
00:17:28.840
the way
00:17:29.200
her
00:17:29.420
total
00:17:30.280
loving
00:17:31.020
question
00:17:31.600
for
00:17:31.860
Kamala
00:17:32.300
what
00:17:33.180
does
00:17:33.520
Ron
00:17:33.920
DeSantis
00:17:34.460
not
00:17:35.060
understand
00:17:35.700
about
00:17:36.260
the
00:17:36.440
black
00:17:36.740
experience
00:17:37.380
good
00:17:37.980
job
00:17:38.360
Andrea
00:17:38.740
cutting
00:17:39.240
question
00:17:39.820
way to
00:17:40.340
put
00:17:40.620
put
00:17:41.180
Kamala
00:17:41.660
on
00:17:42.020
on
00:17:42.340
defensive
00:17:42.920
like
00:17:43.360
please
00:17:44.280
attack
00:17:44.840
one of
00:17:45.580
the
00:17:45.700
leading
00:17:45.940
Republican
00:17:46.480
opponents
00:17:47.000
to
00:17:47.260
Joe
00:17:48.220
Biden
00:17:48.620
shooting
00:17:50.180
fish in
00:17:50.640
the
00:17:50.760
barrel
00:17:51.020
and
00:17:51.220
this
00:17:51.400
is
00:17:51.520
what
00:17:51.660
the
00:17:51.820
media
00:17:52.000
does
00:17:52.340
when
00:17:52.500
they
00:17:52.620
have
00:17:52.820
these
00:17:53.040
soft
00:17:53.480
interviews
00:17:53.860
and
00:17:54.040
I
00:17:54.180
love
00:17:54.380
how
00:17:54.500
they
00:17:54.600
put
00:17:54.780
up
00:17:54.920
their
00:17:55.060
exclusive
00:17:56.000
right
00:17:56.460
like
00:17:56.660
it's
00:17:56.820
a
00:17:57.040
really
00:17:57.320
big
00:17:57.740
get
00:17:58.020
for
00:17:58.300
Andrea
00:17:58.840
Mitchell
00:17:59.200
with
00:17:59.640
the
00:17:59.800
vice
00:18:00.080
president
00:18:00.520
and
00:18:01.240
then
00:18:01.400
you
00:18:01.560
just
00:18:01.840
hand
00:18:02.380
them
00:18:02.660
these
00:18:02.900
questions
00:18:03.480
when
00:18:03.680
there's
00:18:03.880
real
00:18:04.220
pressing
00:18:04.660
matters
00:18:05.060
this
00:18:05.340
is
00:18:05.500
what
00:18:05.660
they
00:18:05.820
give
00:18:06.080
them
00:18:06.380
well
00:18:07.220
and
00:18:07.600
and
00:18:08.040
being
00:18:08.640
given
00:18:09.000
the
00:18:09.240
please
00:18:09.760
attack
00:18:10.280
the
00:18:10.680
Republican
00:18:11.200
of
00:18:11.520
course
00:18:11.880
Kamala
00:18:12.540
Harris
00:18:12.820
is
00:18:13.020
more
00:18:13.200
than
00:18:13.340
happy
00:18:13.620
to
00:18:13.800
oblige
00:18:14.380
because
00:18:14.780
look
00:18:15.760
Andrea
00:18:16.880
Mitchell
00:18:17.200
is
00:18:17.560
a
00:18:17.760
leftist
00:18:18.220
the
00:18:18.560
interview
00:18:19.060
would
00:18:19.420
not
00:18:19.660
have
00:18:19.860
proceeded
00:18:20.280
differently
00:18:20.860
if
00:18:21.720
they
00:18:21.900
had
00:18:22.120
the
00:18:22.280
press
00:18:22.540
secretary
00:18:23.020
for
00:18:23.320
the
00:18:23.480
Joe
00:18:23.680
Biden
00:18:23.980
for
00:18:24.140
president
00:18:24.520
campaign
00:18:25.120
conducting
00:18:25.740
it
00:18:26.040
the
00:18:26.680
press
00:18:26.980
secretary
00:18:27.500
would
00:18:27.800
ask
00:18:28.060
the
00:18:28.260
same
00:18:28.480
questions
00:18:28.980
Andrea
00:18:29.340
Mitchell
00:18:29.660
would
00:18:29.940
because
00:18:30.200
they
00:18:30.400
both
00:18:30.720
have
00:18:30.920
the
00:18:31.100
same
00:18:31.320
objective
00:18:31.880
which
00:18:32.620
is
00:18:32.800
to
00:18:32.940
get
00:18:33.140
the
00:18:33.340
Democrats
00:18:33.840
reelected
00:18:34.580
now
00:18:34.820
you
00:18:35.580
look
00:18:35.760
at
00:18:35.920
Kamala's
00:18:36.340
response
00:18:36.800
where
00:18:36.980
Kamala's
00:18:37.500
like
00:18:37.700
well
00:18:37.900
no
00:18:38.160
I
00:18:38.580
don't
00:18:38.860
know
00:18:39.060
what
00:18:39.220
he
00:18:39.340
knows
00:18:39.700
or
00:18:39.840
doesn't
00:18:40.260
know
00:18:40.600
silly
00:18:41.400
ignorant
00:18:42.120
bigoted
00:18:42.620
Republican
00:18:43.280
but
00:18:44.880
what I
00:18:45.760
know
00:18:46.100
is
00:18:46.320
nobody
00:18:46.900
should
00:18:47.480
censor
00:18:48.060
teachers
00:18:48.820
now
00:18:49.480
let me
00:18:49.740
pause
00:18:50.100
for a
00:18:50.420
second
00:18:50.640
and say
00:18:51.060
that
00:18:51.300
actually
00:18:54.140
well
00:18:54.460
censorship
00:18:54.980
is bad
00:18:55.540
so gosh
00:18:56.020
nobody
00:18:56.300
should
00:18:56.500
censor
00:18:56.820
teachers
00:18:57.180
that sounds
00:18:58.460
great
00:18:58.780
and she
00:18:59.600
says
00:18:59.760
no
00:19:00.080
politician
00:19:00.780
should
00:19:01.160
decide
00:19:01.640
what's
00:19:01.960
taught
00:19:02.160
in
00:19:02.300
school
00:19:02.660
well
00:19:04.020
what
00:19:04.580
she's
00:19:04.860
not
00:19:05.120
acknowledging
00:19:05.660
is that
00:19:06.220
every
00:19:06.660
public
00:19:07.080
school
00:19:07.520
sets
00:19:07.980
curriculum
00:19:08.660
and
00:19:09.200
curriculum
00:19:10.160
is set
00:19:10.760
so for
00:19:11.220
example
00:19:11.680
you choose
00:19:12.480
are we
00:19:13.680
going to
00:19:14.120
teach
00:19:14.620
arithmetic
00:19:15.980
are we
00:19:16.540
going to
00:19:16.780
teach
00:19:17.000
history
00:19:17.420
are we
00:19:17.740
going to
00:19:17.900
teach
00:19:18.160
English
00:19:18.640
what are
00:19:19.040
the
00:19:19.200
topics
00:19:19.780
that we
00:19:20.740
want to
00:19:21.140
set
00:19:21.400
for
00:19:21.640
students
00:19:22.080
to learn
00:19:22.660
in our
00:19:23.120
schools
00:19:23.580
and the
00:19:24.340
irony
00:19:24.660
is
00:19:24.960
when she
00:19:25.280
says
00:19:25.540
no
00:19:25.760
politician
00:19:26.280
should
00:19:26.600
decide
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what's
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being
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taught
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Kamala
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Harris
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adamantly
00:19:30.840
wants
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what happened
00:19:32.280
here is
00:19:32.740
Ron DeSantis
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declined to
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have Florida
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schools
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teach
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the curriculum
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for the
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so-called
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AP course
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in African
00:19:39.460
American
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studies
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that was
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a hard
00:19:41.680
leftist
00:19:42.260
critical
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race
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theory
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narrative
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about how
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America is
00:19:46.560
fundamentally
00:19:47.060
and irredeemably
00:19:47.940
racist
00:19:48.520
it
00:19:49.200
cited
00:19:51.020
numerous
00:19:52.060
Marxist
00:19:53.260
authors
00:19:53.800
pushing
00:19:54.540
critical
00:19:55.160
race
00:19:55.540
theory
00:19:55.940
dividing
00:19:56.820
us
00:19:57.140
on race
00:19:57.680
indoctrinating
00:19:58.920
and this
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is one
00:20:00.720
of the
00:20:00.940
things
00:20:01.340
that so
00:20:02.700
often
00:20:03.100
today's
00:20:03.560
left
00:20:03.780
does
00:20:04.100
what
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they're
00:20:04.660
criticizing
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is what
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they are
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trying to
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do
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they want
00:20:09.240
teachers
00:20:10.020
to
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indoctrinate
00:20:11.080
and Kamala
00:20:12.120
throws in
00:20:12.680
teachers
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and parents
00:20:14.080
well to be
00:20:15.580
honest she
00:20:16.080
doesn't believe
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and parents
00:20:17.560
because Kamala
00:20:18.480
and Biden
00:20:19.240
and the
00:20:19.840
Democrats
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they don't
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want parents
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to have
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a say
00:20:22.400
if you
00:20:23.500
ask parents
00:20:24.380
should we
00:20:25.960
be teaching
00:20:26.540
critical race
00:20:27.320
theory in
00:20:27.840
schools the
00:20:28.380
overwhelming
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majority of
00:20:29.560
parents say
00:20:30.040
no and
00:20:31.060
by the way
00:20:31.600
Democrats
00:20:32.140
when it
00:20:32.380
comes to
00:20:32.640
critical race
00:20:33.200
theory they
00:20:34.360
give incoherent
00:20:35.220
answers on
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one level
00:20:36.480
they say
00:20:36.860
it's not
00:20:37.340
being taught
00:20:37.940
it's only
00:20:38.340
a college
00:20:38.720
level class
00:20:39.260
on the
00:20:39.480
other level
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they say
00:20:40.300
if you
00:20:40.920
don't
00:20:41.220
teach it
00:20:41.740
you're
00:20:42.720
erasing
00:20:43.120
slavery
00:20:43.620
from school
00:20:44.260
well
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those are
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both
00:20:45.840
false
00:20:46.200
statements
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but
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it
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shows
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the
00:20:50.620
hard
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ideology
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of
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today's
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politicians
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and also
00:20:55.980
the
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blatant
00:20:58.360
partisanship
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of
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today's
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corporate
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media
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Canadian
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women are
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looking for
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more
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more out of
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themselves
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their
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businesses
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their
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leaders
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and the
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around
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them
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Andrea
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Mitchell
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did have
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to come
00:21:36.460
out after
00:21:37.900
she was
00:21:38.480
hammered
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for lying
00:21:40.220
and give
00:21:41.680
a quasi
00:21:42.660
apology
00:21:43.640
at the
00:21:44.460
very end
00:21:45.560
of her
00:21:46.120
show
00:21:46.880
as she
00:21:47.720
described
00:21:48.180
as a
00:21:48.660
postscript
00:21:49.720
here is
00:21:50.580
the again
00:21:51.340
fake apology
00:21:52.460
from another
00:21:53.100
member of
00:21:53.680
the liberal
00:21:54.020
media
00:21:54.420
and a
00:21:55.580
postscript
00:21:56.100
in my
00:21:56.840
interview
00:21:57.100
last Friday
00:21:57.680
with Vice
00:21:58.120
President
00:21:58.420
Harris
00:21:58.800
I was
00:21:59.400
imprecise
00:22:00.220
in summarizing
00:22:01.000
Governor's
00:22:01.460
decision
00:22:02.760
about teaching
00:22:03.760
slavery in
00:22:04.400
schools
00:22:04.820
Governor
00:22:05.760
DeSantis
00:22:06.160
is not
00:22:06.620
opposed to
00:22:07.120
teaching the
00:22:07.560
fact of
00:22:08.040
slavery in
00:22:08.580
schools
00:22:08.820
but he
00:22:09.180
has opposed
00:22:09.920
the teaching
00:22:10.700
of an
00:22:11.080
African-American
00:22:11.740
studies
00:22:12.200
curriculum
00:22:12.740
as well as
00:22:13.660
the use of
00:22:14.080
some authors
00:22:14.680
and source
00:22:15.260
materials
00:22:15.700
that historians
00:22:16.660
and teachers
00:22:17.240
say makes
00:22:18.080
it all but
00:22:18.440
impossible for
00:22:19.180
students to
00:22:19.680
understand the
00:22:20.680
broader
00:22:21.000
historic and
00:22:22.020
political context
00:22:23.040
behind slavery
00:22:24.360
and its
00:22:25.180
aftermath in the
00:22:26.000
years since
00:22:26.520
so I'm
00:22:27.780
wrong but
00:22:28.320
I'm still
00:22:29.020
right is
00:22:29.900
that is
00:22:30.340
that the
00:22:30.660
new apology
00:22:31.240
of the
00:22:31.540
left when
00:22:31.940
you screw
00:22:32.400
up this
00:22:32.820
big well
00:22:33.940
she just
00:22:34.960
gave Don
00:22:35.560
Lemon's
00:22:35.960
apology she
00:22:36.940
said it
00:22:37.340
was inartful
00:22:38.160
um no
00:22:40.860
it was false
00:22:41.880
it was a
00:22:42.380
blatant lie
00:22:43.220
it was an
00:22:44.280
ignorant lie
00:22:45.160
you're still
00:22:46.040
not correcting
00:22:46.940
the lie and
00:22:48.100
in fact she
00:22:48.760
says he's
00:22:49.240
opposed to
00:22:50.080
teaching an
00:22:51.300
African-American
00:22:52.020
studies curriculum
00:22:53.120
because she
00:22:54.020
says historians
00:22:55.320
say this is
00:22:56.320
necessary to
00:22:57.220
understand it
00:22:57.740
really which
00:22:58.200
historians those
00:22:59.100
would be the
00:23:00.120
Marxists that
00:23:00.920
are pushing
00:23:01.340
critical race
00:23:02.080
theory which
00:23:03.200
I don't know
00:23:04.500
that Mitchell
00:23:04.880
claims this but
00:23:05.580
I'm certain she
00:23:06.340
does uh claim
00:23:08.180
that it's not
00:23:08.840
being taught in
00:23:09.500
schools except
00:23:10.080
now she says
00:23:10.820
it's essential
00:23:11.580
to understand
00:23:13.560
slavery once
00:23:15.820
again it's not
00:23:16.640
an apology it's
00:23:17.500
a non-apology
00:23:18.380
because she
00:23:19.360
flat-out lied
00:23:20.300
she flat-out
00:23:21.720
lied on air
00:23:22.360
and she
00:23:23.460
didn't care
00:23:24.700
to to even
00:23:27.420
bother to know
00:23:28.240
what the facts
00:23:28.840
are and look
00:23:29.260
this is very
00:23:29.800
similar to the
00:23:31.180
earlier controversy
00:23:32.240
in Florida where
00:23:33.340
the media and I
00:23:34.960
don't know if
00:23:35.360
Mitchell said
00:23:35.800
anything about it
00:23:36.520
but I bet she
00:23:37.080
did um where
00:23:38.620
they attack the
00:23:39.680
Florida law as
00:23:40.540
the don't say
00:23:41.160
gay law yeah
00:23:42.380
and it never said
00:23:43.340
that anywhere in
00:23:43.980
there at all
00:23:44.700
what the Florida
00:23:45.900
law essentially
00:23:47.060
said I said if
00:23:47.780
you want to call
00:23:48.300
it something the
00:23:48.860
right thing to
00:23:49.360
call it is
00:23:50.200
don't say sex
00:23:51.080
it prohibited
00:23:52.100
teaching about
00:23:53.500
sexuality for
00:23:55.160
grades pre-k
00:23:56.220
kindergarten
00:23:57.500
first second
00:23:58.400
and third
00:23:58.760
grade so
00:23:59.540
third graders
00:24:00.120
and below
00:24:00.700
don't say
00:24:02.020
sex and by
00:24:03.020
the way look
00:24:03.660
I'm a parent
00:24:04.620
you're a parent
00:24:05.240
I don't want
00:24:06.680
my kindergartner
00:24:07.640
being taught
00:24:08.240
about gay sex
00:24:09.020
or straight sex
00:24:09.900
like I want
00:24:10.440
my kindergartner
00:24:11.220
playing with
00:24:12.240
blocks yeah
00:24:13.320
and and I
00:24:14.300
would be deeply
00:24:15.120
dismayed to
00:24:15.860
have the teacher
00:24:16.680
getting into
00:24:18.320
sex and
00:24:19.060
sexuality with
00:24:20.180
five-year-olds
00:24:20.980
most parents
00:24:22.160
agree with
00:24:22.800
that by the
00:24:23.340
way a large
00:24:25.260
majority of
00:24:26.000
Florida parents
00:24:26.740
agree with
00:24:27.240
that and
00:24:27.920
let's be clear
00:24:28.760
the Florida
00:24:29.220
law by fourth
00:24:30.160
grade fourth
00:24:31.200
grade hey
00:24:31.840
have at it
00:24:33.140
you know
00:24:33.500
apparently you
00:24:34.360
know play
00:24:34.720
Debbie does
00:24:35.220
Dallas and
00:24:35.800
get in anything
00:24:36.340
you want but
00:24:37.100
but wait until
00:24:37.740
they get to
00:24:38.280
fourth grade
00:24:38.880
and so the
00:24:39.940
media was
00:24:40.620
deliberately
00:24:41.620
dishonest about
00:24:43.300
that law just
00:24:44.220
like they're
00:24:44.740
being deliberately
00:24:45.660
dishonest saying
00:24:46.640
don't teach about
00:24:48.240
slavery is like
00:24:49.180
don't say gay
00:24:50.060
that is not in
00:24:51.560
fact what is
00:24:52.400
happening but
00:24:53.940
remember we
00:24:54.700
started this
00:24:55.400
podcast with the
00:24:56.400
premise the
00:24:57.760
media has
00:24:58.480
abandoned its
00:24:59.520
mission of
00:25:00.220
actually being
00:25:01.140
journalists and
00:25:01.900
reporting facts
00:25:02.760
can you imagine
00:25:04.080
Walter Cronkite
00:25:06.020
saying what
00:25:07.640
Don Lemon said
00:25:08.380
can you imagine
00:25:09.140
Walter Cronkite
00:25:10.300
asking that
00:25:11.960
profoundly
00:25:12.760
ignorant and
00:25:13.560
dishonest question
00:25:14.500
that Andrea
00:25:14.960
Mitchell said
00:25:15.640
can you imagine
00:25:16.600
Tim Russert
00:25:17.320
doing that
00:25:17.900
there used
00:25:18.440
can you imagine
00:25:18.920
Ted Koppel
00:25:19.660
doing that
00:25:20.220
there used to
00:25:21.320
be actual
00:25:22.260
journalists
00:25:23.000
who cared
00:25:25.220
about getting
00:25:26.780
it right
00:25:27.280
who cared
00:25:28.120
about not
00:25:29.780
engaging in
00:25:31.420
political advocacy
00:25:32.540
and the Don
00:25:33.200
Lemons of the
00:25:33.780
world and the
00:25:34.860
Andrea Mitchells
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of the world
00:25:36.060
have utterly
00:25:37.300
abandoned any
00:25:38.300
pretense at
00:25:39.040
journalism
00:25:39.520
yeah another
00:25:40.980
example of this
00:25:42.080
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New York Times
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we've got new
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00:27:49.400
Times so this was in the
00:27:52.900
summer of 2020 and you'll
00:27:54.540
recall there were Antifa
00:27:56.180
and Black Lives Matter
00:27:57.300
riots all over the city
00:27:58.880
all over the country rather
00:28:00.180
there were American
00:28:01.040
cities on fire there
00:28:03.140
were riots there were
00:28:04.400
stores being looted there
00:28:05.760
were police cars being
00:28:06.840
firebombed there were
00:28:07.900
police officers being
00:28:09.000
murdered and during all
00:28:11.260
of this time Tom Cotton
00:28:12.700
my colleague Republican
00:28:13.860
senator from Arkansas
00:28:14.800
wrote an op-ed and in
00:28:17.020
the op-ed he advocated
00:28:18.720
that the president should
00:28:19.940
send in the National Guard
00:28:21.400
to quell the unrest and
00:28:24.180
he submitted the op-ed to
00:28:25.480
the New York Times I
00:28:26.820
don't believe they
00:28:27.500
solicited it I think he
00:28:28.400
just submitted it and
00:28:30.160
the New York Times made
00:28:31.080
the decision to publish
00:28:31.860
it now personally I
00:28:34.160
actually didn't agree with
00:28:35.300
Tom's op-ed I didn't
00:28:36.580
think that was the right
00:28:37.340
solution to send in the
00:28:38.300
National Guard I thought
00:28:39.200
it should be handled as a
00:28:40.240
law enforcement matter I
00:28:41.520
think they should have
00:28:42.060
sent in police officers and
00:28:43.360
arrested the rioters and
00:28:44.360
put them in jail but but I
00:28:45.640
didn't think that that was
00:28:48.020
I was not persuaded that the
00:28:49.760
National Guard was the
00:28:50.680
right avenue for stopping the
00:28:53.040
riots I think the riot should
00:28:54.200
have been stopped using law
00:28:55.160
enforcement be that as it
00:28:56.860
may it was a perfectly
00:28:58.740
reasonable point of view and
00:29:01.260
because the New York Times
00:29:04.420
dared to acknowledge it
00:29:06.040
exists there was a meltdown in
00:29:09.740
the newsroom and and one of
00:29:11.640
the things that's happened in
00:29:12.720
journalism is there are lots of
00:29:14.320
20-somethings who were
00:29:16.660
basically kids they've come out
00:29:20.020
of universities that were woke
00:29:22.000
little sanctuaries and they're
00:29:24.040
now working they're working at
00:29:25.300
places like the New York Times
00:29:26.620
and they have very fragile
00:29:28.360
sensitivities and they freaked
00:29:30.360
out they freaked out and
00:29:32.460
demanded that the editor of the
00:29:34.440
editorial page be fired now who
00:29:36.160
was the editor of the editorial
00:29:37.180
page guy named James Bennett
00:29:38.380
James Bennett is a down-the-road
00:29:41.800
left-wing Democrat partisan he is
00:29:46.480
unquestionably Democrat the
00:29:48.660
chances that James Bennett agreed
00:29:50.960
with Tom Cotton's op-ed I can
00:29:52.720
quantify they were 0.00% he did not
00:29:55.640
agree with it by the way James
00:29:57.340
Bennett's brother Michael Bennett
00:29:58.980
is a sitting Democrat senator from
00:30:01.000
the state of Colorado he's a
00:30:02.720
Democrat through and through well
00:30:04.860
the children on the New York Times
00:30:07.400
staff revolted and what happened
00:30:09.460
the weak-kneed ownership of the New
00:30:11.520
York Times promptly responded by
00:30:13.760
firing Bennett why for acknowledge
00:30:16.380
for daring to publish the op-ed now
00:30:19.000
mind you nobody would have minded if
00:30:21.300
the New York Times wrote an
00:30:22.400
editorial next to the op-ed and
00:30:24.080
said we disagree emphatically with
00:30:26.460
the views advocated by Senator
00:30:27.860
Cotton this is a terrible view and
00:30:30.100
it's wrong that's their right but
00:30:31.820
but the children didn't want that
00:30:33.700
they didn't want even the fact that
00:30:37.200
someone had a different view
00:30:38.600
acknowledged and then there's a new
00:30:40.520
book coming out that quotes someone
00:30:43.020
named Charlie Wartzel who I've never
00:30:45.500
heard of but he is apparently a tech
00:30:48.040
writer he's a white guy which
00:30:50.400
unfortunately in the modern leftist
00:30:53.500
order of things races is preeminent
00:30:56.960
to everything but this fellow
00:30:59.300
Charlie Wartzel the text rock tech
00:31:01.000
writer started to cry because quote
00:31:05.760
and this is from the new book that
00:31:06.780
came out none of his friends wanted to
00:31:10.060
talk to him anymore because he worked
00:31:12.880
for this horrible evil newspaper that
00:31:15.860
would print this op-ed now first of
00:31:19.960
all okay the reporter started to cry
00:31:24.320
are you serious are there any
00:31:27.420
journalists left at the New York Times
00:31:29.720
the idea you think of hardscrabble
00:31:32.240
journalists can you imagine Woodward
00:31:33.720
and Bernstein weeping of oh you very
00:31:36.800
scary thing you publish my friends won't
00:31:39.360
talk to me I mean this sounds like a
00:31:41.900
seventh grader throwing a fit I'm
00:31:44.080
reminded of the great movie a league
00:31:46.040
of their own where where Tom Hanks
00:31:47.740
goes there's no crying in baseball if
00:31:50.620
you had real journalists there should
00:31:52.020
be no crying among journalists look if
00:31:54.780
JFK is shot you can cry if Martin
00:31:57.820
Luther King is shot you can cry if the
00:32:00.360
Challenger space shuttle blows up you
00:32:02.180
can cry but if you read scary words that
00:32:05.600
frighten you and your censorious friends
00:32:09.000
are mad at you a real journalist
00:32:12.040
doesn't cry and complain fire the bad
00:32:15.900
man it it it is indicative of just how
00:32:20.120
broken today's corporate journalist is
00:32:22.620
yeah and and so people understand this
00:32:25.400
as well the reason why Tom Cotton's
00:32:27.820
letter I think was probably published is
00:32:31.140
he's a former guy that enlisted in the
00:32:34.540
United States Army and so he had a
00:32:37.480
unique perspective on the National
00:32:39.440
Guard whether you agree with him or not
00:32:41.460
what he was saying in his op-ed it was
00:32:43.900
it completely made sense for for his
00:32:47.460
op-ed to be published based on his
00:32:50.760
service in the military so people also
00:32:53.080
know this inside baseball back in June
00:32:55.660
of 2006 while he was stationed in Iraq he
00:32:58.440
actually gained a lot of public attention
00:33:00.060
for writing an open letter to the editors
00:33:02.600
of the New York Times so it's not the
00:33:04.800
first time he'd written a letter it's not
00:33:06.260
the first time he'd submitted it to the
00:33:07.760
New York Times either and and yet he does
00:33:10.880
it they print it and then it's off with
00:33:12.840
their head anyone that actually helped
00:33:14.520
allow this to see the light of day
00:33:16.120
look it is an example of how these are no
00:33:23.240
longer journalists the fact that
00:33:27.940
Republicans exist should not be a
00:33:32.220
triggering event for real journalists and
00:33:36.940
these little children that throw fit by
00:33:39.560
the way the New York Times is a hard
00:33:41.740
partisan indoctrination like like I I don't
00:33:45.680
actually understand the value of having an
00:33:48.860
editorial page that only carries one view I
00:33:52.480
guess their diversity of opinion is they
00:33:54.020
have Bolsheviks and Mensheviks but they
00:33:56.660
almost never run views from any conservative
00:34:00.600
from any Republican the New York Times I
00:34:02.920
have to ask you this how many times have
00:34:04.960
you submitted op-eds over I mean your
00:34:08.040
career it's 10 plus years in the Senate but
00:34:10.460
how many times have you even ever gotten a
00:34:13.700
chance to submit and and and knew that or is
00:34:16.200
it a waste of time I guess a better way of
00:34:18.120
putting it like you know they're gonna say
00:34:19.600
no to you or have you ever had success of
00:34:22.340
writing an op-ed that has actually been
00:34:24.820
published in a liberal newspaper so I've
00:34:27.900
yes I've written over the last 10 years
00:34:32.720
at least dozens probably hundreds of
00:34:35.560
op-eds so I like writing op-eds I like
00:34:37.680
communicating the same reason I do the
00:34:39.140
podcast same reason I write books I think
00:34:42.400
one of the real responsibilities of doing
00:34:45.360
this job is to use the pulley pulpit and
00:34:47.640
try to persuade I've had a lot of op-eds
00:34:51.240
published in the Wall Street Journal that a
00:34:54.360
lot of op-eds published in the Houston
00:34:56.340
Chronicle in the Dallas Morning News have
00:34:58.860
had a lot of op-eds published in USA Today
00:35:01.080
have had op-eds published in the Washington
00:35:04.020
Post I don't remember I think the New York
00:35:07.580
Times may have published one op-ed of mine
00:35:09.800
I don't remember for sure we submit a lot to
00:35:13.100
the New York Times and they fairly routinely
00:35:14.900
turned me down now I will tell you what
00:35:19.260
amusing time when when I did make the New
00:35:21.560
York Times editorial pages so they bashed
00:35:23.620
me repeatedly but one of their left-leaning
00:35:27.320
editorialists a guy named Frank Bruni who
00:35:29.780
had written written in the New York Times
00:35:31.420
bashing me over and over again he retired
00:35:34.520
from the New York Times decided to stop
00:35:36.080
writing and his farewell column was
00:35:38.220
published on June 17th 2021 and it's a
00:35:41.880
fairly remarkable column and and I just
00:35:43.720
pulled it up on my phone a second ago I want
00:35:45.780
to just read you the beginning of it the
00:35:47.040
title of of his column is Ted Cruz I'm
00:35:50.940
sorry and here's how the column begins I
00:35:55.860
owe Ted Cruz an apology though really it's
00:35:58.900
the readers to whom I should say I'm sorry
00:36:00.820
one day in 2015 when I had a column due in
00:36:04.140
hours and couldn't settle on a topic I took
00:36:06.700
the easy route of unloading on Cruz who was
00:36:09.560
one of the many unappealing contenders for
00:36:11.540
the Republican presidential nomination he was
00:36:14.320
fair game for rebuke no question there but
00:36:17.140
did I illuminate his dark character
00:36:18.960
enlighten my readers or advance any
00:36:21.480
worthwhile cause by comparing him
00:36:23.700
repeatedly to the unstoppable entity in
00:36:28.080
the horror movie it follows no I just
00:36:32.320
swam with the snide tide I did that too
00:36:37.020
often many columns do and he goes on to
00:36:41.780
talk about how basically in the columns he
00:36:44.680
just wrote hard leftist dribble because it
00:36:49.100
was easier to propagandize with all of the
00:36:52.720
assumptions of one political side versus
00:36:56.100
actually being a real objective commentator
00:37:02.040
which sadly the New York Times and and much
00:37:05.820
of the corporate media has abandoned as a
00:37:08.700
vision for what they will do yeah at least
00:37:11.040
they got it right on this last one though
00:37:12.340
right I mean just see you do your whole
00:37:13.840
career being a sellout and you're like
00:37:15.300
okay maybe I should have done it a little
00:37:16.900
differently you can't make that up I want
00:37:19.300
to go I did did kind of like that that
00:37:21.620
his 2015 column compared me to an evil
00:37:25.180
malevolent demonic spirit I have joked more
00:37:28.600
than once I've made this promise on the
00:37:30.680
campaign trail I've said listen if the New
00:37:32.680
York Times ever starts praising me I may
00:37:35.340
have to resign right then and there and and
00:37:37.900
so you know calling me you know Beelzebub
00:37:40.700
is is probably par for the course for the
00:37:43.040
times yeah and you know what it's not the
00:37:44.960
worst thing someone's ever said that's what
00:37:46.400
I always remind me that I can't believe so
00:37:48.160
and so said something about you I'm like
00:37:49.560
trust me it's not the worst thing that's
00:37:51.820
ever been said just get my name right that's
00:37:53.960
all I care about you do that and I'm happy
00:37:55.800
to move on one last thing and the media is
00:37:59.160
freaking out over this and the lefties are
00:38:01.960
just losing it there was a headline also
00:38:05.500
in the New York Times an opinion piece
00:38:07.960
by Brett Stevens and the headline reads
00:38:10.420
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was awesome just because the pictures and
00:39:44.380
if you look at the pictures it's all these
00:39:46.320
disgusting masks that are on the ground
00:39:49.140
that polluted the country and really the
00:39:51.600
world because the obsession with masks and
00:39:54.660
now we're finding out that the most
00:39:57.660
rigorous and this is from this op-ed and
00:40:00.140
comprehensive analysis of scientific
00:40:02.160
studies conducted on the efficiency of
00:40:04.040
masks for reducing the spread of
00:40:06.060
respiratory illnesses including COVID-19 it
00:40:09.140
was published late last month not a lot of
00:40:11.460
hoopla and the consensus was clear this
00:40:14.940
was basically a total waste of time there
00:40:17.760
was no evidence quote that they mask make
00:40:20.360
any difference is what was said full stop
00:40:24.200
in this and the man the left is freaking
00:40:26.760
out over the fact the New York Times
00:40:28.520
allowed this to even be published well
00:40:31.260
that's exactly right and I'll tell you that
00:40:33.200
the op-ed continues after the authors of
00:40:37.940
this story says there is just no evidence
00:40:40.980
that they masks make any difference full
00:40:43.480
stop the op-ed goes on from there to say but
00:40:47.500
wait hold on what about N95 masks as
00:40:50.760
opposed to lower quality surgical mask or
00:40:52.700
cloth masks makes no difference none of
00:40:56.040
it said Jefferson what about the studies
00:40:58.540
that initially persuaded policymakers to
00:41:00.320
impose mask mandates they were convinced by
00:41:03.460
non-randomized studies flawed observational
00:41:06.680
studies what what about the utility of
00:41:09.620
masks in conjunction with other preventive
00:41:11.540
measures such as hand hygiene and physical
00:41:13.920
distancing or air filtration there is no
00:41:17.440
evidence that many of these things make
00:41:20.860
any difference and the op-ed continues these
00:41:23.480
observations don't just come from anywhere
00:41:25.740
Jefferson and 11 colleagues conducted the
00:41:28.440
study for Cochrane a British non-profit is
00:41:31.200
widely considered the gold standard for its
00:41:32.900
reviews of health care data the conclusions
00:41:35.180
were based on 78 randomized controlled trials
00:41:37.660
six of them done during the COVID pandemic
00:41:39.480
with a total of six hundred and ten thousand
00:41:41.560
eight hundred and seventy two participants in
00:41:43.500
multiple countries and they track what has
00:41:45.680
been widely observed in the United States
00:41:47.580
states with mask mandate mandates fared no
00:41:52.120
better against COVID than those without now look
00:41:56.100
you and I were saying this a year ago we were
00:42:00.700
saying this two years ago the data were there
00:42:04.100
then by the way Fauci said it two years ago
00:42:08.420
until he decided it was politically more
00:42:10.700
advantageous to flip and order people to wear
00:42:14.680
masks and you are right it's stunning the
00:42:20.000
times publish this I do wonder if there is a
00:42:23.440
newsroom of crying children screaming that
00:42:28.360
somebody else be fired for daring to publish
00:42:30.800
this but also more broadly where's the
00:42:35.580
accountability where's Fauci being held
00:42:38.040
accountable where's Joe Biden being held
00:42:40.520
accountable right now today the Biden
00:42:42.380
administration is litigating in federal
00:42:44.280
court to have the authority to reinstate
00:42:46.800
the mask mandate on airplanes now if this
00:42:50.580
is right that the data show they have zero
00:42:53.040
efficacy who's going to stand up and say I
00:42:57.200
was wrong have you heard Joe Biden say that
00:42:59.460
no he's not going to say Chuck Schumer or
00:43:02.460
Fauci or anyone these people that wrecked our
00:43:07.100
economy that destroyed millions of children's
00:43:10.480
education that destroyed businesses that that
00:43:13.600
did trillions of dollars of damage these
00:43:17.500
people that decreed that elderly would die alone and
00:43:23.560
not have their children and grandchildren able to hold
00:43:26.400
their hands have to date born zero responsibility and even
00:43:30.920
worse they try to gaslight the American people you have Randy
00:43:35.100
Weingarten saying oh we didn't want to shut down schools it was
00:43:38.300
Republicans who shut down schools it's the absolute brazen
00:43:43.480
chutzpah of just inverting reality and yet you know what our corporate
00:43:51.420
media the double standard like Don Lemon everyone who got up and lied to
00:43:56.420
you for year after year after year like Don Lemon will be back on air like
00:44:00.180
Andrea Mitchell will be back on air because if you are lying in pursuit of
00:44:05.460
leftist ideology truth and falsity don't matter integrity doesn't matter
00:44:10.660
standards don't matter if you are a propagandist if you work at
00:44:15.540
Pravda which sadly too many of our journalists believe they do then all that
00:44:21.940
matters is your politics and journalism is dead I couldn't have said it
00:44:27.000
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00:44:35.500
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