Verdict with Ted Cruz - Media Lies & Hypocrisy： From Don Lemon to Andrea Mitchell to the NYT

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00:00:04.660 Welcome. It is a verdict with Senator Tate Cruz.

00:00:07.420 Ben Ferguson with you.

00:00:08.640 And Senator, you and I were chatting before the show

00:00:12.020 that it's been one hell of a week for the corrupt media,

00:00:15.900 and they've just been stepping in it all week long.

00:00:20.560 Well, listen, it's one of the most dangerous aspects

00:00:25.100 in our democracy today,

00:00:26.560 is that we no longer have a free and independent media.

00:00:30.580 We no longer have a media that engages in actual journalism,

00:00:35.760 and I don't think that's hyperbole.

00:00:37.860 You know, there was a time when people in the media

00:00:41.860 viewed their mission as reporting both sides,

00:00:45.960 as reporting the facts, and letting you decide.

00:00:49.680 There was a time when journalists were trained

00:00:51.920 to focus on the facts, the who, what, where, when,

00:00:56.260 why, and not focus on editorializing.

00:01:01.680 That no longer is the mission of the corporate media.

00:01:04.920 The corporate media today, they have embraced their view

00:01:07.680 as propagandists.

00:01:09.580 They have embraced their view as partisans.

00:01:12.540 And in fact, when it comes to partisans,

00:01:15.460 I think the corporate media are the most vicious leftists there are.

00:01:21.560 They will criticize the Democrat Party for one thing and one thing only,

00:01:25.920 and that's not being leftist enough.

00:01:27.920 They view their job as drive them to the left.

00:01:30.320 And they also are the attack dogs.

00:01:32.960 And I got to say, when they're engaged in attacks,

00:01:36.400 their bigotry comes out, 0.96

00:01:38.400 their ignorance comes out, 0.96

00:01:40.700 their despising of anyone who isn't a leftist comes out. 0.78

00:01:46.880 And it really, the double standard is profound.

00:01:52.040 Yeah, you look at this week,

00:01:54.400 and just one of those perfect examples

00:01:56.500 is what happened with Don Lemon.

00:01:59.360 And to be clear, before we play this,

00:02:01.860 if a Republican, if a conservative,

00:02:04.840 would have said this on TV,

00:02:06.900 I have no doubt that they would have been fired.

00:02:10.820 In fact, I can even say,

00:02:12.060 if I was at CNN and I was there for seven years,

00:02:15.020 if I would have said what I'm about to play for you,

00:02:17.340 I would have immediately been shown the door.

00:02:21.760 And yet, Don Lemon gets to come back without an apology.

00:02:25.580 Take a listen.

00:02:26.440 It's all the talk about age makes me uncomfortable.

00:02:28.880 I think that, I think it's the wrong road to go down.

00:02:31.560 She says people, you know,

00:02:32.900 politicians or something are not in their prime.

00:02:34.620 Nikki Haley is in her prime.

00:02:35.920 Sorry.

00:02:36.620 A woman is considered to be in her prime in her 20s and 30s and maybe 40s. 0.96

00:02:40.560 What are you talking about?

00:02:41.560 That's not according to me.

00:02:43.160 Prime for what?

00:02:44.100 It depends.

00:02:45.020 I mean, it's just like prime.

00:02:45.940 If you look it up,

00:02:46.540 if you Google when is a woman in her prime,

00:02:49.200 it'll say 20s, 30s, and 40s.

00:02:51.520 I don't necessarily...

00:02:52.320 40s. Oh, I got another decade.

00:02:53.000 I agree with that.

00:02:54.600 So I think she has to be careful about saying that,

00:02:57.660 you know, politicians aren't in their prime in their 80s.

00:02:58.880 I think we need to qualify.

00:02:59.900 Are you talking about prime for like child-bearing?

00:03:02.280 Or are you talking about prime for being president?

00:03:05.100 The facts are Google it.

00:03:06.360 Everybody at home,

00:03:07.500 when is a woman in her prime,

00:03:08.780 it says 20s, 30s, and 40s.

00:03:10.180 And I'm just saying Nikki Haley should be careful about saying

00:03:12.660 that politicians are not in their prime

00:03:14.820 and they need to be in their prime when they serve

00:03:16.700 because she wouldn't be in her prime,

00:03:18.000 according to Google or whatever it is.

00:03:21.600 Now, I love it because they're even mocking him on the set.

00:03:24.200 They can't believe he's actually saying this.

00:03:26.160 They're obviously trying to protect him in a sense.

00:03:28.580 But then he doesn't even have to apologize,

00:03:31.280 Senator, and he gets his job back, right?

00:03:33.120 Well, look, his comments there are drippingly misogynistic.

00:03:39.660 You know, Joe Biden is, what, 142 years old.

00:03:42.500 And according to him, apparently Biden is in his prime.

00:03:45.840 But he's willing to suggest that once a woman hits her 40s,

00:03:50.260 by her 50s, she's over the hill,

00:03:52.120 just, you know, put her out to pasture. 0.98

00:03:54.520 And there's a reason he's willing to say that

00:03:58.760 because he doesn't consider Nikki Haley a woman.

00:04:03.260 It's the point we made on the pod we just did with Wesley Hunt.

00:04:07.660 Don Lemon does not consider Wesley Hunt to be a black man.

00:04:11.120 Don Lemon does not consider me to be Hispanic.

00:04:14.320 If you dare to be conservative,

00:04:17.960 the left erases you from whatever victim class they want to put.

00:04:22.240 And they put everyone in victim classes, but they define it. 0.87

00:04:25.580 You're only black if you're a leftist. 0.88

00:04:28.000 As Joe Biden said, if you're not voting for Joe Biden, you ain't black. 0.99

00:04:32.260 I mean, what a bigoted thing to say.

00:04:36.080 Don Lemon, I promise you, despises Clarence Thomas.

00:04:41.480 Why? 0.93

00:04:41.920 Because he dares, as a black man, to be a conservative. 0.74

00:04:46.060 And Don Lemon not only despises Nikki Haley,

00:04:48.560 but he views her with a particular,

00:04:52.780 if it were just a white guy,

00:04:55.120 fine, he could live with that. 0.99

00:04:57.340 Old, fat, bald, white guys are the one group 1.00

00:04:59.940 they think are allowed to be conservatives. 1.00

00:05:01.800 But if you're a woman, you're a traitor. 0.98

00:05:05.000 And so his comments 0.99

00:05:06.580 reveal the particular contempt.

00:05:10.300 You know,

00:05:10.780 the differential of how the left treats

00:05:13.780 Clarence Thomas versus how they treated Antonin Scalia.

00:05:16.620 Antonin Scalia was a strong conservative,

00:05:20.460 was brilliant.

00:05:21.580 And the left didn't like him,

00:05:22.960 but they didn't react.

00:05:24.980 You know, you had one magazine

00:05:26.180 that portrayed Clarence Thomas

00:05:28.920 as an Uncle Tom,

00:05:31.440 basically shining the shoes

00:05:33.760 of Antonin Scalia. 0.94

00:05:34.900 That's bigoted and racist, 0.92

00:05:36.860 but they are right.

00:05:38.960 Contempt is their feeling.

00:05:40.440 And so after he made these comments,

00:05:43.820 CNN realized,

00:05:44.880 uh-oh, he stepped in it.

00:05:46.100 Now, you're right, Ben.

00:05:46.800 If you'd said the exact same thing,

00:05:48.360 if you read his words on air,

00:05:50.400 they would have fired you

00:05:51.940 probably before you were finished speaking.

00:05:54.480 Yeah.

00:05:54.960 But for Don Levin,

00:05:56.280 because he's a leftist,

00:05:57.780 and because he was attacking a Republican,

00:06:00.740 all is fine and good.

00:06:03.280 So he put out a tweet.

00:06:04.240 I want to read the tweet he made.

00:06:05.540 The reference I made to a woman's prime this morning

00:06:09.300 was inartful and irrelevant,

00:06:13.100 as colleagues and loved ones have pointed out.

00:06:16.420 And I regret it.

00:06:18.640 A woman's age doesn't define her 1.00

00:06:20.800 either personally or professionally.

00:06:24.320 I have countless women in my life 1.00

00:06:27.360 who prove that every day.

00:06:29.260 Now, this statement is several things.

00:06:31.800 I'll tell you what it is not.

00:06:33.520 An apology.

00:06:35.120 Nowhere in there are the words,

00:06:37.000 I'm sorry.

00:06:38.580 Nowhere in the words are,

00:06:40.740 I'm a bumbling, left-wing, 1.00

00:06:42.440 hypocritical, misogynist jackass, 1.00

00:06:45.040 which is what he should have said. 1.00

00:06:47.260 You know what he also doesn't say?

00:06:49.700 That what he said was wrong.

00:06:51.900 What he says is,

00:06:52.980 it's inartful.

00:06:54.040 In other words,

00:06:55.500 may have been true in his mind,

00:06:57.620 but he didn't express it quite as artfully,

00:07:00.640 as elegantly as he might have.

00:07:02.620 And he said,

00:07:03.180 and irrelevant.

00:07:04.140 Now, irrelevant doesn't mean wrong either.

00:07:05.940 It just means,

00:07:07.200 well, I shouldn't have pointed it out

00:07:09.480 because, I don't know,

00:07:10.520 it's not relevant

00:07:11.200 because people criticized me.

00:07:13.280 And he goes on.

00:07:15.440 He says,

00:07:15.940 and I regret it.

00:07:17.560 He doesn't say,

00:07:18.180 I'm sorry.

00:07:18.960 He doesn't apologize to Nikki Haley,

00:07:22.320 to women.

00:07:23.380 He doesn't apologize.

00:07:24.100 And then he says,

00:07:25.200 a woman's age doesn't define her 1.00

00:07:26.780 either personally or professionally.

00:07:28.380 Well,

00:07:29.180 he still isn't disagreeing 1.00

00:07:30.820 with his asinine statement. 1.00

00:07:33.000 Look, 0.99

00:07:33.440 my wife Heidi turned 50 last year.

00:07:35.860 Heidi Cruz is absolutely in her prime.

00:07:38.300 In fact,

00:07:38.620 Heidi is going to run a marathon

00:07:40.400 next month

00:07:41.740 to celebrate turning 50.

00:07:44.700 Margaret Thatcher,

00:07:46.240 who last I checked,

00:07:47.320 wasn't in her 20s

00:07:48.400 or 30s or 40s.

00:07:49.220 And she was in her prime.

00:07:51.160 Unbelievable leader.

00:07:52.860 You want to talk about a woman

00:07:54.400 who bestrode the earth

00:07:56.360 like a colossus,

00:07:57.680 who along with Reagan

00:07:59.220 and Pope John Paul

00:08:00.440 changed the course

00:08:02.420 of human history.

00:08:04.140 But you know what?

00:08:05.360 Don Lemon doesn't think

00:08:06.220 she was in her prime

00:08:06.940 because she's not a woman. 1.00

00:08:08.300 Why?

00:08:08.680 Because she's conservative

00:08:09.840 and you don't count

00:08:11.260 as a woman for leftists.

00:08:13.740 And then the amazing thing

00:08:14.600 is what does CNN do?

00:08:15.700 They take him off the air

00:08:16.600 for two days

00:08:17.320 and then back on air

00:08:19.240 because it's a double standard

00:08:21.060 that only applies

00:08:22.580 to one political side of the aisle.

00:08:25.020 There was something

00:08:25.840 that I laugh about

00:08:27.280 because I woke up

00:08:28.320 this morning

00:08:29.700 to a text

00:08:30.340 from a former colleague of mine

00:08:31.840 at CNN

00:08:32.760 and it said

00:08:34.320 please check

00:08:36.440 Don Lemon's Twitter.

00:08:37.740 And at 4.35 a.m.

00:08:39.120 he took so much heat

00:08:40.100 from the tweet

00:08:40.680 that you just read

00:08:41.840 that he then put out

00:08:43.300 a new tweet

00:08:44.080 and this is what it said.

00:08:45.380 I appreciate the opportunity

00:08:47.080 to be back on CNN

00:08:48.440 this morning today.

00:08:50.560 To my network,

00:08:51.460 my colleagues

00:08:52.140 and our incredible audience,

00:08:54.080 I'm sorry.

00:08:55.260 I've heard you.

00:08:56.460 I'm learning from you

00:08:57.880 and I'm committed

00:08:58.560 to doing better.

00:08:59.520 See you soon.

00:09:00.840 Yet he still can't

00:09:01.940 bring himself

00:09:02.380 to actually apologize

00:09:03.420 to the person

00:09:04.280 he originally offended.

00:09:05.960 So even the,

00:09:07.080 like, okay,

00:09:07.860 I gotta fix it.

00:09:08.880 Let me be clear, Ben.

00:09:10.380 It's not just Nikki Haley

00:09:11.880 who, I mean,

00:09:13.000 he did insult her

00:09:13.840 by saying she's not in her prime.

00:09:15.600 But he insulted

00:09:16.640 every woman

00:09:18.220 in her 50s,

00:09:19.100 in her 60s,

00:09:19.820 in her 70s. 0.99

00:09:20.920 What an asinine statement. 0.99

00:09:22.380 By the way, 0.99

00:09:23.460 under the Constitution,

00:09:24.700 the minimum age

00:09:25.300 to be president

00:09:25.840 of the United States

00:09:26.680 is 35.

00:09:28.200 So I guess

00:09:28.820 in Don Lemon's world,

00:09:30.340 there is a 15-year window

00:09:32.360 when a woman 0.99

00:09:33.120 in her prime

00:09:33.880 is allowed

00:09:34.340 to be president

00:09:35.000 between 35

00:09:35.900 and 49 and a half.

00:09:38.800 Like, 0.99

00:09:39.200 what an asinine proposition. 0.99

00:09:41.460 And mind you, 0.99

00:09:42.560 Joe Biden,

00:09:43.460 they don't think

00:09:44.120 anything of it.

00:09:45.820 Hillary Clinton,

00:09:46.900 I guarantee you,

00:09:48.580 Don Lemon never said,

00:09:50.080 you know what,

00:09:50.600 Hillary Clinton

00:09:51.120 wasn't in her 40s

00:09:52.180 when she ran for president.

00:09:53.580 It's an absolute

00:09:54.600 double standard.

00:09:55.860 No,

00:09:56.080 it certainly is.

00:09:57.020 And by the way,

00:09:57.720 Don Lemon

00:09:58.200 wasn't the only one

00:10:00.060 to step in it this week.

00:10:01.760 Andrea Mitchell

00:10:02.560 had her own

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00:11:26.680 Senator Andrea Mitchell

00:11:28.100 also got herself 0.85

00:11:29.220 in a lot of hot water

00:11:30.540 this week

00:11:31.180 when she did

00:11:33.120 what the only way

00:11:34.160 I can describe

00:11:34.860 is basically a hit

00:11:36.360 on Governor Ron DeSantis

00:11:39.540 trying to imply

00:11:40.760 that he's some sort

00:11:41.500 of extreme 0.73

00:11:42.300 Klansman racist

00:11:44.080 and she had an interview,

00:11:46.480 an NBC exclusive

00:11:47.760 with Vice President Harris

00:11:49.100 and here's what was said

00:11:51.040 and the only problem

00:11:52.260 with what was said

00:11:53.000 is it wasn't true.

00:11:55.020 Let me ask you,

00:11:56.180 what does Governor

00:11:57.660 Ron DeSantis

00:11:58.380 not know

00:11:59.560 about black history

00:12:01.300 and the black experience

00:12:02.300 when he says

00:12:03.620 that slavery

00:12:05.740 and the aftermath

00:12:06.580 of slavery

00:12:07.060 should not be taught

00:12:08.100 to Florida school children?

00:12:09.380 I don't know

00:12:09.980 what he knows

00:12:10.640 and what he doesn't know

00:12:11.640 but I know this.

00:12:14.520 Any push

00:12:15.980 to censor

00:12:16.980 America's teachers

00:12:19.520 and tell them

00:12:21.340 what they should be teaching

00:12:22.600 in the best interest

00:12:23.480 of our children

00:12:24.280 in partnership

00:12:28.220 with the parents

00:12:29.360 of America

00:12:29.980 is I think

00:12:31.460 wrong headed.

00:12:33.920 The people

00:12:34.620 who know

00:12:34.960 our children best

00:12:36.120 are their parents

00:12:37.160 and their teachers

00:12:38.100 in terms of the time

00:12:39.280 they spend

00:12:40.000 and the investment

00:12:40.720 they've placed

00:12:41.440 in the brains

00:12:42.640 and capacity

00:12:43.420 of our children

00:12:45.520 who are our nation's future

00:12:46.840 and it should not

00:12:49.780 be some politician

00:12:50.640 saying what should

00:12:52.460 be taught

00:12:52.820 in our classrooms

00:12:53.800 and I mean

00:12:56.720 this story

00:12:58.460 the problem

00:12:59.160 with it is

00:12:59.760 it's not true

00:13:00.720 Senator

00:13:01.100 as you pointed out

00:13:02.400 so there are

00:13:03.920 lots of problems

00:13:04.640 with it.

00:13:05.600 Number one

00:13:06.220 Andrea Mitchell

00:13:07.920 is

00:13:08.840 the question

00:13:10.000 is incredibly 0.99

00:13:10.880 ignorant 1.00

00:13:11.480 like what she's 1.00

00:13:13.100 saying

00:13:13.540 it's not even

00:13:14.000 just a little bit

00:13:15.020 not true

00:13:15.600 it's a total

00:13:16.360 blatant lie

00:13:17.200 but it is a

00:13:18.500 blatant lie

00:13:19.380 based on

00:13:21.380 her assumptions 0.58

00:13:22.400 that all

00:13:23.900 Republicans 1.00

00:13:24.520 are ignorant 1.00

00:13:25.900 Philistines 1.00

00:13:26.900 who don't want

00:13:28.240 history taught

00:13:30.240 in any way

00:13:31.120 who don't want

00:13:33.480 who don't want

00:13:35.340 slavery

00:13:36.000 or the aftermath

00:13:36.880 of slavery

00:13:37.720 taught.

00:13:38.640 Now

00:13:38.780 of course

00:13:40.240 Florida schools

00:13:41.560 teach about slavery

00:13:42.520 and the aftermath

00:13:43.460 of slavery

00:13:44.040 and by the way

00:13:44.840 you want to talk

00:13:45.880 about who wants

00:13:46.620 to cover up

00:13:47.240 history

00:13:47.680 Andrea

00:13:49.100 who was it

00:13:51.220 that signed

00:13:52.300 the Emancipation

00:13:53.220 Proclamation

00:13:53.740 oh yeah

00:13:54.320 that was Abraham

00:13:54.900 Lincoln

00:13:55.260 that was the

00:13:55.760 first Republican

00:13:56.480 president

00:13:57.000 who was it

00:13:58.360 that founded

00:13:58.900 the Ku Klux Klan

00:13:59.840 oh yeah

00:14:00.320 those were

00:14:00.940 Democrat politicians

00:14:02.060 who was it

00:14:03.180 that wrote

00:14:03.680 the Jim Crow 0.94

00:14:04.340 laws

00:14:04.700 oh yeah

00:14:05.200 those were

00:14:05.860 Democrat

00:14:06.300 politicians

00:14:07.000 who was it

00:14:08.280 that eulogized

00:14:09.500 an exalted

00:14:10.240 Cyclops

00:14:11.080 of the Ku Klux 0.88

00:14:12.120 Klan

00:14:12.560 Robert Byrd

00:14:13.540 oh yeah

00:14:14.100 that was

00:14:14.500 Joe Biden

00:14:15.100 the sitting

00:14:15.560 Democrat

00:14:16.040 president

00:14:16.500 of the United

00:14:16.940 States

00:14:17.320 you want to

00:14:17.700 talk about

00:14:18.160 who doesn't

00:14:18.620 want to deal

00:14:19.040 with slavery

00:14:19.520 in the aftermath

00:14:20.080 of slavery

00:14:20.820 it is Andrea

00:14:21.780 Mitchell

00:14:22.080 who's never

00:14:22.540 reported

00:14:23.020 on any

00:14:23.900 of those

00:14:24.360 facts

00:14:24.740 the absurdity

00:14:25.860 of saying

00:14:27.680 that Republicans

00:14:29.120 in this case

00:14:29.740 Ron DeSantis

00:14:30.400 don't want

00:14:31.340 the fact

00:14:31.860 of slavery

00:14:32.440 taught

00:14:32.900 is deliberately 0.99

00:14:35.860 ignorant 1.00

00:14:36.620 and it's based 1.00

00:14:37.680 on the same

00:14:38.260 assumption

00:14:38.660 look

00:14:39.020 what she

00:14:40.280 is doing

00:14:40.820 and what

00:14:41.180 Don Lemon

00:14:41.700 did

00:14:42.080 are the

00:14:42.500 exact

00:14:42.900 same

00:14:43.280 thing

00:14:43.700 they have

00:14:44.720 contempt

00:14:45.560 for anyone

00:14:46.920 who isn't

00:14:47.660 a leftist

00:14:48.500 and

00:14:49.700 they assume

00:14:52.620 these 0.99

00:14:53.340 ridiculous 0.99

00:14:54.320 caricatures 1.00

00:14:55.440 so for

00:14:57.800 example

00:14:58.260 Ben

00:14:58.560 I'll go

00:14:59.260 back to

00:14:59.820 2021

00:15:00.580 where

00:15:02.540 Andrea

00:15:04.340 Mitchell

00:15:06.140 again

00:15:06.720 tweets out

00:15:07.500 I had

00:15:07.920 commented

00:15:08.460 about

00:15:08.940 the

00:15:09.260 Trump

00:15:09.940 impeachment

00:15:10.400 trial

00:15:10.900 the second

00:15:12.140 trial

00:15:12.600 and I

00:15:13.180 said

00:15:13.740 it was

00:15:15.140 as

00:15:15.380 Shakespeare

00:15:15.840 put it

00:15:16.540 full of

00:15:17.480 sound

00:15:17.780 and fury

00:15:18.300 and signifying

00:15:19.060 nothing

00:15:19.440 now

00:15:20.540 Andrea

00:15:21.200 Mitchell

00:15:21.500 jumps on

00:15:22.040 Twitter

00:15:22.320 and she

00:15:22.640 tweets

00:15:22.920 the following

00:15:23.540 Ted Cruz

00:15:25.040 says

00:15:25.420 impeachment

00:15:25.900 trial

00:15:26.340 is like

00:15:26.800 Shakespeare

00:15:27.280 full of

00:15:28.300 sound

00:15:28.580 and fury

00:15:29.140 signifying

00:15:30.060 nothing

00:15:30.460 no

00:15:31.960 that's

00:15:33.100 Faulkner

00:15:34.040 now

00:15:35.560 that's

00:15:36.180 her

00:15:36.340 response

00:15:37.040 now

00:15:38.120 she

00:15:39.140 I

00:15:40.380 actually

00:15:40.800 let a

00:15:41.180 little bit

00:15:41.560 of time

00:15:42.100 elapse

00:15:42.680 because

00:15:43.180 Twitter

00:15:43.800 was really

00:15:44.300 wonderful

00:15:44.780 in that

00:15:45.260 and that

00:15:45.500 everyone

00:15:45.880 piled on

00:15:46.760 and pointed

00:15:47.220 out that

00:15:47.800 no you 0.99

00:15:49.020 fool 1.00

00:15:49.780 that is 0.99

00:15:50.480 in fact

00:15:51.180 from

00:15:52.500 William

00:15:52.820 Shakespeare

00:15:53.340 from

00:15:55.420 Macbeth

00:15:56.120 life is a

00:15:56.680 tale

00:15:56.900 told by 1.00

00:15:57.680 an idiot 1.00

00:15:58.120 full of 1.00

00:15:58.600 sound

00:15:58.880 and fury

00:15:59.600 and signifying

00:16:00.280 nothing

00:16:00.680 and Faulkner

00:16:01.480 when

00:16:02.440 he wrote

00:16:03.580 the sound

00:16:04.100 and the

00:16:04.340 fury

00:16:04.660 was

00:16:05.140 quoting

00:16:05.600 from

00:16:06.020 Shakespeare

00:16:06.560 so

00:16:08.160 Mitchell

00:16:08.560 finally

00:16:09.100 when the

00:16:09.440 entire

00:16:09.700 world

00:16:10.000 pounded

00:16:10.400 on her

00:16:10.660 how 0.99

00:16:10.820 ridiculous 1.00

00:16:11.220 she 1.00

00:16:11.500 was

00:16:11.720 she

00:16:11.900 sends

00:16:12.240 out

00:16:12.480 this

00:16:12.720 sort

00:16:13.700 of

00:16:13.820 apology

00:16:14.180 tweet

00:16:14.560 I

00:16:15.400 clearly

00:16:15.720 studied

00:16:16.140 too much

00:16:16.560 American

00:16:16.940 literature

00:16:17.360 and not

00:16:17.760 enough

00:16:19.040 Macbeth

00:16:19.640 my apologies

00:16:21.140 to Senator

00:16:21.720 Cruz

00:16:22.080 now

00:16:22.400 look

00:16:23.020 I don't

00:16:23.480 care about

00:16:23.940 the fact

00:16:24.380 that she

00:16:24.680 gets this

00:16:25.160 wrong

00:16:25.520 but it

00:16:26.840 reveals a

00:16:27.480 mindset

00:16:27.920 which is

00:16:29.200 listen

00:16:29.460 you can

00:16:29.960 disagree with

00:16:31.220 me

00:16:31.420 you think

00:16:31.780 can think

00:16:32.140 I'm wrong

00:16:32.540 I'm probably

00:16:33.000 wrong about

00:16:33.420 a lot of

00:16:33.740 things in

00:16:34.080 life

00:16:34.300 certainly

00:16:34.680 my wife

00:16:36.220 and daughters

00:16:36.620 would tell

00:16:37.000 you I am

00:16:37.460 but

00:16:38.060 Mitchell

00:16:40.200 among all

00:16:41.920 the criticisms

00:16:42.660 I think it

00:16:43.400 would be

00:16:43.780 difficult to

00:16:44.740 make the

00:16:45.180 case

00:16:45.720 that I'm

00:16:46.900 an illiterate 1.00

00:16:47.520 imbecile 1.00

00:16:48.040 I might be 1.00

00:16:49.580 misguided

00:16:50.100 I might be

00:16:50.540 mistaken

00:16:51.060 but I did

00:16:53.320 manage to

00:16:54.100 pass the

00:16:54.620 third grade

00:16:55.260 and

00:16:56.700 but to

00:16:57.840 Andrea Mitchell's

00:16:59.260 mind

00:16:59.760 and any

00:17:00.400 Republican

00:17:01.160 is an 0.98

00:17:02.700 oaf

00:17:03.040 is a 0.96

00:17:03.820 bigot

00:17:04.260 is an 0.95

00:17:05.060 imp

00:17:05.200 so the

00:17:05.620 sort of

00:17:06.040 her 1.00

00:17:06.740 ignorant 1.00

00:17:07.320 dripping 1.00

00:17:07.780 no that's

00:17:08.720 Faulkner

00:17:09.300 no my

00:17:11.220 dear

00:17:11.520 I

00:17:12.000 actually

00:17:12.900 have

00:17:13.240 studied

00:17:13.700 literature

00:17:14.260 and

00:17:14.940 it

00:17:16.420 shows

00:17:17.000 a

00:17:17.240 mindset

00:17:17.620 and by

00:17:18.020 the way

00:17:18.460 let's

00:17:19.700 go back

00:17:20.140 to Kamala

00:17:20.620 Harris's

00:17:21.120 answer

00:17:21.660 after you

00:17:22.160 see

00:17:22.520 Mitchell's

00:17:23.300 dripping

00:17:24.600 condescension

00:17:25.400 for the

00:17:25.740 state of

00:17:26.020 Florida

00:17:26.300 and

00:17:27.540 notice by

00:17:28.840 the way

00:17:29.200 her

00:17:29.420 total

00:17:30.280 loving

00:17:31.020 question

00:17:31.600 for

00:17:31.860 Kamala

00:17:32.300 what

00:17:33.180 does

00:17:33.520 Ron

00:17:33.920 DeSantis

00:17:34.460 not

00:17:35.060 understand

00:17:35.700 about

00:17:36.260 the

00:17:36.440 black

00:17:36.740 experience

00:17:37.380 good

00:17:37.980 job

00:17:38.360 Andrea

00:17:38.740 cutting

00:17:39.240 question

00:17:39.820 way to

00:17:40.340 put

00:17:40.620 put

00:17:41.180 Kamala

00:17:41.660 on

00:17:42.020 on

00:17:42.340 defensive

00:17:42.920 like

00:17:43.360 please

00:17:44.280 attack 0.99

00:17:44.840 one of 0.85

00:17:45.580 the

00:17:45.700 leading

00:17:45.940 Republican

00:17:46.480 opponents

00:17:47.000 to

00:17:47.260 Joe

00:17:48.220 Biden

00:17:48.620 shooting

00:17:50.180 fish in

00:17:50.640 the

00:17:50.760 barrel

00:17:51.020 and

00:17:51.220 this

00:17:51.400 is

00:17:51.520 what

00:17:51.660 the

00:17:51.820 media

00:17:52.000 does

00:17:52.340 when

00:17:52.500 they

00:17:52.620 have

00:17:52.820 these

00:17:53.040 soft

00:17:53.480 interviews

00:17:53.860 and

00:17:54.040 I

00:17:54.180 love

00:17:54.380 how

00:17:54.500 they

00:17:54.600 put

00:17:54.780 up

00:17:54.920 their

00:17:55.060 exclusive

00:17:56.000 right

00:17:56.460 like

00:17:56.660 it's

00:17:56.820 a

00:17:57.040 really

00:17:57.320 big

00:17:57.740 get

00:17:58.020 for

00:17:58.300 Andrea

00:17:58.840 Mitchell

00:17:59.200 with

00:17:59.640 the

00:17:59.800 vice

00:18:00.080 president

00:18:00.520 and

00:18:01.240 then

00:18:01.400 you

00:18:01.560 just

00:18:01.840 hand

00:18:02.380 them

00:18:02.660 these

00:18:02.900 questions

00:18:03.480 when

00:18:03.680 there's

00:18:03.880 real

00:18:04.220 pressing

00:18:04.660 matters

00:18:05.060 this

00:18:05.340 is

00:18:05.500 what

00:18:05.660 they

00:18:05.820 give

00:18:06.080 them

00:18:06.380 well

00:18:07.220 and

00:18:07.600 and

00:18:08.040 being

00:18:08.640 given

00:18:09.000 the

00:18:09.240 please

00:18:09.760 attack

00:18:10.280 the

00:18:10.680 Republican

00:18:11.200 of

00:18:11.520 course

00:18:11.880 Kamala

00:18:12.540 Harris

00:18:12.820 is

00:18:13.020 more

00:18:13.200 than

00:18:13.340 happy

00:18:13.620 to

00:18:13.800 oblige

00:18:14.380 because

00:18:14.780 look

00:18:15.760 Andrea

00:18:16.880 Mitchell

00:18:17.200 is

00:18:17.560 a

00:18:17.760 leftist

00:18:18.220 the

00:18:18.560 interview

00:18:19.060 would

00:18:19.420 not

00:18:19.660 have

00:18:19.860 proceeded

00:18:20.280 differently

00:18:20.860 if

00:18:21.720 they

00:18:21.900 had

00:18:22.120 the

00:18:22.280 press

00:18:22.540 secretary

00:18:23.020 for

00:18:23.320 the

00:18:23.480 Joe

00:18:23.680 Biden

00:18:23.980 for

00:18:24.140 president

00:18:24.520 campaign

00:18:25.120 conducting

00:18:25.740 it

00:18:26.040 the

00:18:26.680 press

00:18:26.980 secretary

00:18:27.500 would

00:18:27.800 ask

00:18:28.060 the

00:18:28.260 same

00:18:28.480 questions

00:18:28.980 Andrea

00:18:29.340 Mitchell

00:18:29.660 would

00:18:29.940 because

00:18:30.200 they

00:18:30.400 both

00:18:30.720 have

00:18:30.920 the

00:18:31.100 same

00:18:31.320 objective

00:18:31.880 which

00:18:32.620 is

00:18:32.800 to

00:18:32.940 get

00:18:33.140 the

00:18:33.340 Democrats

00:18:33.840 reelected

00:18:34.580 now

00:18:34.820 you

00:18:35.580 look

00:18:35.760 at

00:18:35.920 Kamala's

00:18:36.340 response

00:18:36.800 where

00:18:36.980 Kamala's

00:18:37.500 like

00:18:37.700 well

00:18:37.900 no

00:18:38.160 I

00:18:38.580 don't

00:18:38.860 know

00:18:39.060 what

00:18:39.220 he

00:18:39.340 knows

00:18:39.700 or

00:18:39.840 doesn't

00:18:40.260 know 0.99

00:18:40.600 silly 1.00

00:18:41.400 ignorant 1.00

00:18:42.120 bigoted 1.00

00:18:42.620 Republican

00:18:43.280 but

00:18:44.880 what I

00:18:45.760 know

00:18:46.100 is

00:18:46.320 nobody

00:18:46.900 should

00:18:47.480 censor

00:18:48.060 teachers

00:18:48.820 now

00:18:49.480 let me

00:18:49.740 pause

00:18:50.100 for a

00:18:50.420 second

00:18:50.640 and say

00:18:51.060 that

00:18:51.300 actually

00:18:54.140 well

00:18:54.460 censorship

00:18:54.980 is bad

00:18:55.540 so gosh

00:18:56.020 nobody

00:18:56.300 should

00:18:56.500 censor

00:18:56.820 teachers

00:18:57.180 that sounds

00:18:58.460 great

00:18:58.780 and she

00:18:59.600 says

00:18:59.760 no

00:19:00.080 politician

00:19:00.780 should

00:19:01.160 decide

00:19:01.640 what's

00:19:01.960 taught

00:19:02.160 in

00:19:02.300 school

00:19:02.660 well

00:19:04.020 what

00:19:04.580 she's

00:19:04.860 not

00:19:05.120 acknowledging

00:19:05.660 is that

00:19:06.220 every

00:19:06.660 public

00:19:07.080 school

00:19:07.520 sets

00:19:07.980 curriculum

00:19:08.660 and

00:19:09.200 curriculum

00:19:10.160 is set

00:19:10.760 so for

00:19:11.220 example

00:19:11.680 you choose

00:19:12.480 are we

00:19:13.680 going to

00:19:14.120 teach

00:19:14.620 arithmetic

00:19:15.980 are we

00:19:16.540 going to

00:19:16.780 teach

00:19:17.000 history

00:19:17.420 are we

00:19:17.740 going to

00:19:17.900 teach

00:19:18.160 English

00:19:18.640 what are

00:19:19.040 the

00:19:19.200 topics

00:19:19.780 that we

00:19:20.740 want to

00:19:21.140 set

00:19:21.400 for

00:19:21.640 students

00:19:22.080 to learn

00:19:22.660 in our

00:19:23.120 schools

00:19:23.580 and the

00:19:24.340 irony

00:19:24.660 is

00:19:24.960 when she

00:19:25.280 says

00:19:25.540 no

00:19:25.760 politician

00:19:26.280 should

00:19:26.600 decide

00:19:26.980 what's

00:19:27.240 being

00:19:27.460 taught

00:19:27.900 Kamala

00:19:29.120 Harris

00:19:29.540 adamantly

00:19:30.840 wants

00:19:31.400 what happened

00:19:32.280 here is

00:19:32.740 Ron DeSantis

00:19:33.500 declined to

00:19:34.360 have Florida

00:19:34.800 schools

00:19:35.260 teach

00:19:35.800 the curriculum

00:19:37.060 for the

00:19:37.700 so-called

00:19:38.220 AP course

00:19:39.040 in African

00:19:39.460 American

00:19:39.780 studies

00:19:40.240 that was

00:19:41.000 a hard

00:19:41.680 leftist

00:19:42.260 critical

00:19:42.720 race

00:19:43.180 theory

00:19:43.700 narrative

00:19:44.720 about how

00:19:45.900 America is

00:19:46.560 fundamentally

00:19:47.060 and irredeemably

00:19:47.940 racist

00:19:48.520 it

00:19:49.200 cited

00:19:51.020 numerous

00:19:52.060 Marxist

00:19:53.260 authors

00:19:53.800 pushing

00:19:54.540 critical

00:19:55.160 race

00:19:55.540 theory

00:19:55.940 dividing

00:19:56.820 us

00:19:57.140 on race

00:19:57.680 indoctrinating

00:19:58.920 and this

00:20:00.300 is one

00:20:00.720 of the

00:20:00.940 things

00:20:01.340 that so

00:20:02.700 often

00:20:03.100 today's

00:20:03.560 left

00:20:03.780 does

00:20:04.100 what

00:20:04.360 they're

00:20:04.660 criticizing

00:20:05.420 is what

00:20:06.980 they are

00:20:07.400 trying to

00:20:07.980 do

00:20:08.240 they want

00:20:09.240 teachers

00:20:10.020 to

00:20:10.320 indoctrinate

00:20:11.080 and Kamala

00:20:12.120 throws in

00:20:12.680 teachers

00:20:13.000 and parents

00:20:14.080 well to be

00:20:15.580 honest she

00:20:16.080 doesn't believe

00:20:16.900 and parents

00:20:17.560 because Kamala

00:20:18.480 and Biden

00:20:19.240 and the

00:20:19.840 Democrats

00:20:20.260 they don't

00:20:20.920 want parents

00:20:21.580 to have

00:20:21.940 a say

00:20:22.400 if you

00:20:23.500 ask parents

00:20:24.380 should we

00:20:25.960 be teaching

00:20:26.540 critical race

00:20:27.320 theory in

00:20:27.840 schools the

00:20:28.380 overwhelming

00:20:28.880 majority of

00:20:29.560 parents say

00:20:30.040 no and

00:20:31.060 by the way

00:20:31.600 Democrats

00:20:32.140 when it

00:20:32.380 comes to

00:20:32.640 critical race

00:20:33.200 theory they

00:20:34.360 give incoherent

00:20:35.220 answers on

00:20:35.720 one level

00:20:36.480 they say

00:20:36.860 it's not

00:20:37.340 being taught

00:20:37.940 it's only

00:20:38.340 a college

00:20:38.720 level class

00:20:39.260 on the

00:20:39.480 other level

00:20:39.900 they say

00:20:40.300 if you

00:20:40.920 don't

00:20:41.220 teach it

00:20:41.740 you're

00:20:42.720 erasing

00:20:43.120 slavery

00:20:43.620 from school

00:20:44.260 well

00:20:44.600 those are

00:20:45.520 both

00:20:45.840 false

00:20:46.200 statements

00:20:46.760 but

00:20:48.200 it

00:20:49.380 shows

00:20:50.120 the

00:20:50.620 hard

00:20:51.320 ideology

00:20:52.080 of

00:20:53.280 today's

00:20:53.920 Democrat

00:20:54.360 politicians

00:20:55.000 and also

00:20:55.980 the

00:20:57.560 blatant

00:20:58.360 partisanship

00:20:59.520 of

00:21:01.100 today's

00:21:01.760 corporate

00:21:02.040 media

00:21:02.400 Canadian

00:21:04.100 women are 1.00

00:21:04.600 looking for

00:21:05.100 more

00:21:05.480 more out of

00:21:06.100 themselves

00:21:06.560 their

00:21:06.920 businesses

00:21:07.400 their

00:21:07.860 elected

00:21:08.160 leaders

00:21:08.520 and the

00:21:09.100 world

00:21:09.260 around

00:21:09.540 them

00:21:09.740 and that's

00:21:10.260 why we're

00:21:10.560 thrilled to

00:21:11.080 introduce

00:21:11.540 the honest

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00:21:32.900 Andrea

00:21:35.260 Mitchell

00:21:35.540 did have

00:21:36.080 to come

00:21:36.460 out after

00:21:37.900 she was

00:21:38.480 hammered

00:21:39.420 for lying

00:21:40.220 and give

00:21:41.680 a quasi

00:21:42.660 apology

00:21:43.640 at the

00:21:44.460 very end

00:21:45.560 of her

00:21:46.120 show

00:21:46.880 as she

00:21:47.720 described

00:21:48.180 as a

00:21:48.660 postscript

00:21:49.720 here is

00:21:50.580 the again

00:21:51.340 fake apology

00:21:52.460 from another

00:21:53.100 member of

00:21:53.680 the liberal

00:21:54.020 media

00:21:54.420 and a

00:21:55.580 postscript

00:21:56.100 in my

00:21:56.840 interview

00:21:57.100 last Friday

00:21:57.680 with Vice

00:21:58.120 President

00:21:58.420 Harris

00:21:58.800 I was

00:21:59.400 imprecise

00:22:00.220 in summarizing

00:22:01.000 Governor's

00:22:01.460 decision

00:22:02.760 about teaching

00:22:03.760 slavery in

00:22:04.400 schools

00:22:04.820 Governor

00:22:05.760 DeSantis

00:22:06.160 is not

00:22:06.620 opposed to

00:22:07.120 teaching the

00:22:07.560 fact of

00:22:08.040 slavery in

00:22:08.580 schools

00:22:08.820 but he

00:22:09.180 has opposed

00:22:09.920 the teaching

00:22:10.700 of an

00:22:11.080 African-American

00:22:11.740 studies

00:22:12.200 curriculum

00:22:12.740 as well as

00:22:13.660 the use of

00:22:14.080 some authors

00:22:14.680 and source

00:22:15.260 materials

00:22:15.700 that historians

00:22:16.660 and teachers

00:22:17.240 say makes

00:22:18.080 it all but

00:22:18.440 impossible for

00:22:19.180 students to

00:22:19.680 understand the

00:22:20.680 broader

00:22:21.000 historic and

00:22:22.020 political context

00:22:23.040 behind slavery

00:22:24.360 and its

00:22:25.180 aftermath in the

00:22:26.000 years since

00:22:26.520 so I'm

00:22:27.780 wrong but

00:22:28.320 I'm still

00:22:29.020 right is

00:22:29.900 that is

00:22:30.340 that the

00:22:30.660 new apology

00:22:31.240 of the

00:22:31.540 left when

00:22:31.940 you screw

00:22:32.400 up this

00:22:32.820 big well

00:22:33.940 she just 0.65

00:22:34.960 gave Don

00:22:35.560 Lemon's

00:22:35.960 apology she 0.90

00:22:36.940 said it

00:22:37.340 was inartful

00:22:38.160 um no

00:22:40.860 it was false

00:22:41.880 it was a

00:22:42.380 blatant lie

00:22:43.220 it was an 1.00

00:22:44.280 ignorant lie 1.00

00:22:45.160 you're still 1.00

00:22:46.040 not correcting

00:22:46.940 the lie and

00:22:48.100 in fact she

00:22:48.760 says he's

00:22:49.240 opposed to

00:22:50.080 teaching an

00:22:51.300 African-American

00:22:52.020 studies curriculum

00:22:53.120 because she

00:22:54.020 says historians

00:22:55.320 say this is

00:22:56.320 necessary to

00:22:57.220 understand it

00:22:57.740 really which

00:22:58.200 historians those

00:22:59.100 would be the

00:23:00.120 Marxists that

00:23:00.920 are pushing

00:23:01.340 critical race

00:23:02.080 theory which

00:23:03.200 I don't know

00:23:04.500 that Mitchell

00:23:04.880 claims this but

00:23:05.580 I'm certain she

00:23:06.340 does uh claim

00:23:08.180 that it's not

00:23:08.840 being taught in

00:23:09.500 schools except

00:23:10.080 now she says

00:23:10.820 it's essential

00:23:11.580 to understand

00:23:13.560 slavery once

00:23:15.820 again it's not

00:23:16.640 an apology it's

00:23:17.500 a non-apology

00:23:18.380 because she

00:23:19.360 flat-out lied

00:23:20.300 she flat-out

00:23:21.720 lied on air

00:23:22.360 and she

00:23:23.460 didn't care

00:23:24.700 to to even

00:23:27.420 bother to know

00:23:28.240 what the facts

00:23:28.840 are and look

00:23:29.260 this is very

00:23:29.800 similar to the

00:23:31.180 earlier controversy

00:23:32.240 in Florida where

00:23:33.340 the media and I

00:23:34.960 don't know if

00:23:35.360 Mitchell said

00:23:35.800 anything about it

00:23:36.520 but I bet she

00:23:37.080 did um where

00:23:38.620 they attack the

00:23:39.680 Florida law as

00:23:40.540 the don't say

00:23:41.160 gay law yeah

00:23:42.380 and it never said

00:23:43.340 that anywhere in

00:23:43.980 there at all

00:23:44.700 what the Florida

00:23:45.900 law essentially

00:23:47.060 said I said if

00:23:47.780 you want to call

00:23:48.300 it something the

00:23:48.860 right thing to

00:23:49.360 call it is

00:23:50.200 don't say sex

00:23:51.080 it prohibited

00:23:52.100 teaching about

00:23:53.500 sexuality for

00:23:55.160 grades pre-k

00:23:56.220 kindergarten

00:23:57.500 first second

00:23:58.400 and third

00:23:58.760 grade so

00:23:59.540 third graders

00:24:00.120 and below

00:24:00.700 don't say

00:24:02.020 sex and by

00:24:03.020 the way look

00:24:03.660 I'm a parent

00:24:04.620 you're a parent

00:24:05.240 I don't want

00:24:06.680 my kindergartner

00:24:07.640 being taught 0.97

00:24:08.240 about gay sex 0.99

00:24:09.020 or straight sex 1.00

00:24:09.900 like I want 0.99

00:24:10.440 my kindergartner

00:24:11.220 playing with

00:24:12.240 blocks yeah

00:24:13.320 and and I

00:24:14.300 would be deeply

00:24:15.120 dismayed to

00:24:15.860 have the teacher

00:24:16.680 getting into

00:24:18.320 sex and 0.54

00:24:19.060 sexuality with

00:24:20.180 five-year-olds

00:24:20.980 most parents

00:24:22.160 agree with

00:24:22.800 that by the

00:24:23.340 way a large

00:24:25.260 majority of

00:24:26.000 Florida parents

00:24:26.740 agree with

00:24:27.240 that and

00:24:27.920 let's be clear

00:24:28.760 the Florida

00:24:29.220 law by fourth

00:24:30.160 grade fourth

00:24:31.200 grade hey

00:24:31.840 have at it

00:24:33.140 you know

00:24:33.500 apparently you

00:24:34.360 know play

00:24:34.720 Debbie does 0.82

00:24:35.220 Dallas and

00:24:35.800 get in anything

00:24:36.340 you want but

00:24:37.100 but wait until

00:24:37.740 they get to

00:24:38.280 fourth grade

00:24:38.880 and so the

00:24:39.940 media was

00:24:40.620 deliberately

00:24:41.620 dishonest about

00:24:43.300 that law just

00:24:44.220 like they're

00:24:44.740 being deliberately

00:24:45.660 dishonest saying

00:24:46.640 don't teach about

00:24:48.240 slavery is like 0.91

00:24:49.180 don't say gay 0.92

00:24:50.060 that is not in

00:24:51.560 fact what is

00:24:52.400 happening but

00:24:53.940 remember we

00:24:54.700 started this

00:24:55.400 podcast with the

00:24:56.400 premise the

00:24:57.760 media has

00:24:58.480 abandoned its

00:24:59.520 mission of

00:25:00.220 actually being

00:25:01.140 journalists and

00:25:01.900 reporting facts

00:25:02.760 can you imagine

00:25:04.080 Walter Cronkite

00:25:06.020 saying what

00:25:07.640 Don Lemon said

00:25:08.380 can you imagine

00:25:09.140 Walter Cronkite

00:25:10.300 asking that

00:25:11.960 profoundly 1.00

00:25:12.760 ignorant and 1.00

00:25:13.560 dishonest question 1.00

00:25:14.500 that Andrea

00:25:14.960 Mitchell said

00:25:15.640 can you imagine

00:25:16.600 Tim Russert

00:25:17.320 doing that

00:25:17.900 there used

00:25:18.440 can you imagine

00:25:18.920 Ted Koppel

00:25:19.660 doing that

00:25:20.220 there used to

00:25:21.320 be actual

00:25:22.260 journalists

00:25:23.000 who cared

00:25:25.220 about getting

00:25:26.780 it right

00:25:27.280 who cared

00:25:28.120 about not

00:25:29.780 engaging in

00:25:31.420 political advocacy

00:25:32.540 and the Don

00:25:33.200 Lemons of the

00:25:33.780 world and the

00:25:34.860 Andrea Mitchells

00:25:35.500 of the world

00:25:36.060 have utterly

00:25:37.300 abandoned any

00:25:38.300 pretense at

00:25:39.040 journalism

00:25:39.520 yeah another

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00:27:25.540 another story this week

00:27:27.060 that really pulled back

00:27:28.400 the curtain behind the

00:27:30.600 initial freak out over

00:27:32.980 Tom Cotton writing an

00:27:35.140 op-ed at the New York

00:27:36.060 Times set the stage for

00:27:37.840 everybody they may have

00:27:38.720 forgotten this story and

00:27:40.280 then we'll get in the

00:27:40.920 nitty-gritty of the

00:27:41.960 total anarchy that

00:27:43.840 happened at the idea of

00:27:45.660 the thought of a sitting

00:27:47.160 U.S. senator writing an

00:27:48.740 op-ed in the New York

00:27:49.400 Times so this was in the

00:27:52.900 summer of 2020 and you'll

00:27:54.540 recall there were Antifa

00:27:56.180 and Black Lives Matter

00:27:57.300 riots all over the city

00:27:58.880 all over the country rather

00:28:00.180 there were American

00:28:01.040 cities on fire there

00:28:03.140 were riots there were

00:28:04.400 stores being looted there

00:28:05.760 were police cars being

00:28:06.840 firebombed there were

00:28:07.900 police officers being

00:28:09.000 murdered and during all

00:28:11.260 of this time Tom Cotton

00:28:12.700 my colleague Republican

00:28:13.860 senator from Arkansas

00:28:14.800 wrote an op-ed and in

00:28:17.020 the op-ed he advocated

00:28:18.720 that the president should

00:28:19.940 send in the National Guard

00:28:21.400 to quell the unrest and

00:28:24.180 he submitted the op-ed to

00:28:25.480 the New York Times I

00:28:26.820 don't believe they

00:28:27.500 solicited it I think he

00:28:28.400 just submitted it and

00:28:30.160 the New York Times made

00:28:31.080 the decision to publish

00:28:31.860 it now personally I

00:28:34.160 actually didn't agree with

00:28:35.300 Tom's op-ed I didn't

00:28:36.580 think that was the right

00:28:37.340 solution to send in the 0.77

00:28:38.300 National Guard I thought

00:28:39.200 it should be handled as a

00:28:40.240 law enforcement matter I

00:28:41.520 think they should have

00:28:42.060 sent in police officers and

00:28:43.360 arrested the rioters and

00:28:44.360 put them in jail but but I

00:28:45.640 didn't think that that was

00:28:48.020 I was not persuaded that the

00:28:49.760 National Guard was the

00:28:50.680 right avenue for stopping the

00:28:53.040 riots I think the riot should

00:28:54.200 have been stopped using law

00:28:55.160 enforcement be that as it

00:28:56.860 may it was a perfectly

00:28:58.740 reasonable point of view and

00:29:01.260 because the New York Times

00:29:04.420 dared to acknowledge it

00:29:06.040 exists there was a meltdown in

00:29:09.740 the newsroom and and one of

00:29:11.640 the things that's happened in

00:29:12.720 journalism is there are lots of

00:29:14.320 20-somethings who were

00:29:16.660 basically kids they've come out

00:29:20.020 of universities that were woke

00:29:22.000 little sanctuaries and they're

00:29:24.040 now working they're working at

00:29:25.300 places like the New York Times

00:29:26.620 and they have very fragile

00:29:28.360 sensitivities and they freaked

00:29:30.360 out they freaked out and

00:29:32.460 demanded that the editor of the

00:29:34.440 editorial page be fired now who

00:29:36.160 was the editor of the editorial

00:29:37.180 page guy named James Bennett

00:29:38.380 James Bennett is a down-the-road

00:29:41.800 left-wing Democrat partisan he is

00:29:46.480 unquestionably Democrat the

00:29:48.660 chances that James Bennett agreed

00:29:50.960 with Tom Cotton's op-ed I can

00:29:52.720 quantify they were 0.00% he did not

00:29:55.640 agree with it by the way James

00:29:57.340 Bennett's brother Michael Bennett

00:29:58.980 is a sitting Democrat senator from

00:30:01.000 the state of Colorado he's a

00:30:02.720 Democrat through and through well

00:30:04.860 the children on the New York Times

00:30:07.400 staff revolted and what happened

00:30:09.460 the weak-kneed ownership of the New

00:30:11.520 York Times promptly responded by

00:30:13.760 firing Bennett why for acknowledge

00:30:16.380 for daring to publish the op-ed now

00:30:19.000 mind you nobody would have minded if

00:30:21.300 the New York Times wrote an

00:30:22.400 editorial next to the op-ed and

00:30:24.080 said we disagree emphatically with

00:30:26.460 the views advocated by Senator

00:30:27.860 Cotton this is a terrible view and

00:30:30.100 it's wrong that's their right but

00:30:31.820 but the children didn't want that

00:30:33.700 they didn't want even the fact that

00:30:37.200 someone had a different view

00:30:38.600 acknowledged and then there's a new

00:30:40.520 book coming out that quotes someone

00:30:43.020 named Charlie Wartzel who I've never

00:30:45.500 heard of but he is apparently a tech

00:30:48.040 writer he's a white guy which

00:30:50.400 unfortunately in the modern leftist

00:30:53.500 order of things races is preeminent 0.94

00:30:56.960 to everything but this fellow

00:30:59.300 Charlie Wartzel the text rock tech

00:31:01.000 writer started to cry because quote

00:31:05.760 and this is from the new book that

00:31:06.780 came out none of his friends wanted to

00:31:10.060 talk to him anymore because he worked

00:31:12.880 for this horrible evil newspaper that

00:31:15.860 would print this op-ed now first of

00:31:19.960 all okay the reporter started to cry

00:31:24.320 are you serious are there any

00:31:27.420 journalists left at the New York Times

00:31:29.720 the idea you think of hardscrabble

00:31:32.240 journalists can you imagine Woodward

00:31:33.720 and Bernstein weeping of oh you very

00:31:36.800 scary thing you publish my friends won't

00:31:39.360 talk to me I mean this sounds like a

00:31:41.900 seventh grader throwing a fit I'm

00:31:44.080 reminded of the great movie a league

00:31:46.040 of their own where where Tom Hanks

00:31:47.740 goes there's no crying in baseball if

00:31:50.620 you had real journalists there should

00:31:52.020 be no crying among journalists look if

00:31:54.780 JFK is shot you can cry if Martin

00:31:57.820 Luther King is shot you can cry if the

00:32:00.360 Challenger space shuttle blows up you

00:32:02.180 can cry but if you read scary words that

00:32:05.600 frighten you and your censorious friends

00:32:09.000 are mad at you a real journalist

00:32:12.040 doesn't cry and complain fire the bad

00:32:15.900 man it it it is indicative of just how

00:32:20.120 broken today's corporate journalist is

00:32:22.620 yeah and and so people understand this

00:32:25.400 as well the reason why Tom Cotton's

00:32:27.820 letter I think was probably published is

00:32:31.140 he's a former guy that enlisted in the

00:32:34.540 United States Army and so he had a

00:32:37.480 unique perspective on the National

00:32:39.440 Guard whether you agree with him or not

00:32:41.460 what he was saying in his op-ed it was

00:32:43.900 it completely made sense for for his

00:32:47.460 op-ed to be published based on his

00:32:50.760 service in the military so people also

00:32:53.080 know this inside baseball back in June

00:32:55.660 of 2006 while he was stationed in Iraq he

00:32:58.440 actually gained a lot of public attention

00:33:00.060 for writing an open letter to the editors

00:33:02.600 of the New York Times so it's not the

00:33:04.800 first time he'd written a letter it's not

00:33:06.260 the first time he'd submitted it to the

00:33:07.760 New York Times either and and yet he does

00:33:10.880 it they print it and then it's off with

00:33:12.840 their head anyone that actually helped

00:33:14.520 allow this to see the light of day

00:33:16.120 look it is an example of how these are no

00:33:23.240 longer journalists the fact that

00:33:27.940 Republicans exist should not be a

00:33:32.220 triggering event for real journalists and

00:33:36.940 these little children that throw fit by

00:33:39.560 the way the New York Times is a hard

00:33:41.740 partisan indoctrination like like I I don't

00:33:45.680 actually understand the value of having an

00:33:48.860 editorial page that only carries one view I

00:33:52.480 guess their diversity of opinion is they

00:33:54.020 have Bolsheviks and Mensheviks but they 0.89

00:33:56.660 almost never run views from any conservative

00:34:00.600 from any Republican the New York Times I

00:34:02.920 have to ask you this how many times have

00:34:04.960 you submitted op-eds over I mean your

00:34:08.040 career it's 10 plus years in the Senate but

00:34:10.460 how many times have you even ever gotten a

00:34:13.700 chance to submit and and and knew that or is

00:34:16.200 it a waste of time I guess a better way of

00:34:18.120 putting it like you know they're gonna say

00:34:19.600 no to you or have you ever had success of

00:34:22.340 writing an op-ed that has actually been

00:34:24.820 published in a liberal newspaper so I've

00:34:27.900 yes I've written over the last 10 years

00:34:32.720 at least dozens probably hundreds of

00:34:35.560 op-eds so I like writing op-eds I like

00:34:37.680 communicating the same reason I do the

00:34:39.140 podcast same reason I write books I think

00:34:42.400 one of the real responsibilities of doing

00:34:45.360 this job is to use the pulley pulpit and

00:34:47.640 try to persuade I've had a lot of op-eds

00:34:51.240 published in the Wall Street Journal that a

00:34:54.360 lot of op-eds published in the Houston

00:34:56.340 Chronicle in the Dallas Morning News have

00:34:58.860 had a lot of op-eds published in USA Today

00:35:01.080 have had op-eds published in the Washington

00:35:04.020 Post I don't remember I think the New York

00:35:07.580 Times may have published one op-ed of mine

00:35:09.800 I don't remember for sure we submit a lot to

00:35:13.100 the New York Times and they fairly routinely

00:35:14.900 turned me down now I will tell you what

00:35:19.260 amusing time when when I did make the New

00:35:21.560 York Times editorial pages so they bashed

00:35:23.620 me repeatedly but one of their left-leaning

00:35:27.320 editorialists a guy named Frank Bruni who

00:35:29.780 had written written in the New York Times

00:35:31.420 bashing me over and over again he retired

00:35:34.520 from the New York Times decided to stop

00:35:36.080 writing and his farewell column was

00:35:38.220 published on June 17th 2021 and it's a

00:35:41.880 fairly remarkable column and and I just

00:35:43.720 pulled it up on my phone a second ago I want

00:35:45.780 to just read you the beginning of it the

00:35:47.040 title of of his column is Ted Cruz I'm

00:35:50.940 sorry and here's how the column begins I

00:35:55.860 owe Ted Cruz an apology though really it's

00:35:58.900 the readers to whom I should say I'm sorry

00:36:00.820 one day in 2015 when I had a column due in

00:36:04.140 hours and couldn't settle on a topic I took

00:36:06.700 the easy route of unloading on Cruz who was

00:36:09.560 one of the many unappealing contenders for

00:36:11.540 the Republican presidential nomination he was

00:36:14.320 fair game for rebuke no question there but

00:36:17.140 did I illuminate his dark character

00:36:18.960 enlighten my readers or advance any

00:36:21.480 worthwhile cause by comparing him

00:36:23.700 repeatedly to the unstoppable entity in

00:36:28.080 the horror movie it follows no I just

00:36:32.320 swam with the snide tide I did that too

00:36:37.020 often many columns do and he goes on to

00:36:41.780 talk about how basically in the columns he

00:36:44.680 just wrote hard leftist dribble because it

00:36:49.100 was easier to propagandize with all of the

00:36:52.720 assumptions of one political side versus

00:36:56.100 actually being a real objective commentator

00:37:02.040 which sadly the New York Times and and much

00:37:05.820 of the corporate media has abandoned as a

00:37:08.700 vision for what they will do yeah at least

00:37:11.040 they got it right on this last one though

00:37:12.340 right I mean just see you do your whole

00:37:13.840 career being a sellout and you're like

00:37:15.300 okay maybe I should have done it a little

00:37:16.900 differently you can't make that up I want

00:37:19.300 to go I did did kind of like that that

00:37:21.620 his 2015 column compared me to an evil

00:37:25.180 malevolent demonic spirit I have joked more

00:37:28.600 than once I've made this promise on the

00:37:30.680 campaign trail I've said listen if the New

00:37:32.680 York Times ever starts praising me I may

00:37:35.340 have to resign right then and there and and

00:37:37.900 so you know calling me you know Beelzebub

00:37:40.700 is is probably par for the course for the

00:37:43.040 times yeah and you know what it's not the

00:37:44.960 worst thing someone's ever said that's what

00:37:46.400 I always remind me that I can't believe so

00:37:48.160 and so said something about you I'm like

00:37:49.560 trust me it's not the worst thing that's

00:37:51.820 ever been said just get my name right that's

00:37:53.960 all I care about you do that and I'm happy

00:37:55.800 to move on one last thing and the media is

00:37:59.160 freaking out over this and the lefties are

00:38:01.960 just losing it there was a headline also

00:38:05.500 in the New York Times an opinion piece

00:38:07.960 by Brett Stevens and the headline reads

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00:39:39.680 piece the New York Times by Brett Steven

00:39:41.260 was awesome just because the pictures and

00:39:44.380 if you look at the pictures it's all these

00:39:46.320 disgusting masks that are on the ground

00:39:49.140 that polluted the country and really the

00:39:51.600 world because the obsession with masks and

00:39:54.660 now we're finding out that the most

00:39:57.660 rigorous and this is from this op-ed and

00:40:00.140 comprehensive analysis of scientific

00:40:02.160 studies conducted on the efficiency of

00:40:04.040 masks for reducing the spread of

00:40:06.060 respiratory illnesses including COVID-19 it

00:40:09.140 was published late last month not a lot of

00:40:11.460 hoopla and the consensus was clear this

00:40:14.940 was basically a total waste of time there

00:40:17.760 was no evidence quote that they mask make

00:40:20.360 any difference is what was said full stop

00:40:24.200 in this and the man the left is freaking

00:40:26.760 out over the fact the New York Times

00:40:28.520 allowed this to even be published well

00:40:31.260 that's exactly right and I'll tell you that

00:40:33.200 the op-ed continues after the authors of

00:40:37.940 this story says there is just no evidence

00:40:40.980 that they masks make any difference full

00:40:43.480 stop the op-ed goes on from there to say but

00:40:47.500 wait hold on what about N95 masks as

00:40:50.760 opposed to lower quality surgical mask or

00:40:52.700 cloth masks makes no difference none of

00:40:56.040 it said Jefferson what about the studies

00:40:58.540 that initially persuaded policymakers to

00:41:00.320 impose mask mandates they were convinced by

00:41:03.460 non-randomized studies flawed observational

00:41:06.680 studies what what about the utility of

00:41:09.620 masks in conjunction with other preventive

00:41:11.540 measures such as hand hygiene and physical

00:41:13.920 distancing or air filtration there is no

00:41:17.440 evidence that many of these things make

00:41:20.860 any difference and the op-ed continues these

00:41:23.480 observations don't just come from anywhere

00:41:25.740 Jefferson and 11 colleagues conducted the

00:41:28.440 study for Cochrane a British non-profit is

00:41:31.200 widely considered the gold standard for its

00:41:32.900 reviews of health care data the conclusions

00:41:35.180 were based on 78 randomized controlled trials

00:41:37.660 six of them done during the COVID pandemic

00:41:39.480 with a total of six hundred and ten thousand

00:41:41.560 eight hundred and seventy two participants in

00:41:43.500 multiple countries and they track what has

00:41:45.680 been widely observed in the United States

00:41:47.580 states with mask mandate mandates fared no

00:41:52.120 better against COVID than those without now look 1.00

00:41:56.100 you and I were saying this a year ago we were

00:42:00.700 saying this two years ago the data were there

00:42:04.100 then by the way Fauci said it two years ago

00:42:08.420 until he decided it was politically more

00:42:10.700 advantageous to flip and order people to wear

00:42:14.680 masks and you are right it's stunning the

00:42:20.000 times publish this I do wonder if there is a

00:42:23.440 newsroom of crying children screaming that

00:42:28.360 somebody else be fired for daring to publish

00:42:30.800 this but also more broadly where's the

00:42:35.580 accountability where's Fauci being held

00:42:38.040 accountable where's Joe Biden being held

00:42:40.520 accountable right now today the Biden

00:42:42.380 administration is litigating in federal

00:42:44.280 court to have the authority to reinstate

00:42:46.800 the mask mandate on airplanes now if this

00:42:50.580 is right that the data show they have zero

00:42:53.040 efficacy who's going to stand up and say I

00:42:57.200 was wrong have you heard Joe Biden say that

00:42:59.460 no he's not going to say Chuck Schumer or

00:43:02.460 Fauci or anyone these people that wrecked our

00:43:07.100 economy that destroyed millions of children's

00:43:10.480 education that destroyed businesses that that

00:43:13.600 did trillions of dollars of damage these

00:43:17.500 people that decreed that elderly would die alone and

00:43:23.560 not have their children and grandchildren able to hold

00:43:26.400 their hands have to date born zero responsibility and even

00:43:30.920 worse they try to gaslight the American people you have Randy

00:43:35.100 Weingarten saying oh we didn't want to shut down schools it was

00:43:38.300 Republicans who shut down schools it's the absolute brazen

00:43:43.480 chutzpah of just inverting reality and yet you know what our corporate

00:43:51.420 media the double standard like Don Lemon everyone who got up and lied to

00:43:56.420 you for year after year after year like Don Lemon will be back on air like

00:44:00.180 Andrea Mitchell will be back on air because if you are lying in pursuit of 0.99

00:44:05.460 leftist ideology truth and falsity don't matter integrity doesn't matter

00:44:10.660 standards don't matter if you are a propagandist if you work at

00:44:15.540 Pravda which sadly too many of our journalists believe they do then all that

00:44:21.940 matters is your politics and journalism is dead I couldn't have said it

00:44:27.000 better myself senator it was a fun show today just to look at this terrible

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Verdict with Ted Cruz - February 24, 2023

Media Lies & Hypocrisy： From Don Lemon to Andrea Mitchell to the NYT

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