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Verdict with Ted Cruz
- April 07, 2023
MOB BOSS Nephew Involved In BIDEN Family Business Deal w⧸ CCP
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This is an iHeart Podcast.
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Welcome.
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It is Verdict with Senator Ted Cruz.
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Ben Ferguson with you.
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Senator, there's a headline today.
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And man, is the media running away from this one.
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A mobster had a movie after him.
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Whitey Bulger.
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Great movie.
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If you never saw it, go see it.
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His nephew apparently had the hookup with Hunter Biden and his business associates that
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were scoring VIP treatment at the White House when Joe Biden was the vice president.
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And this is a mob boss's nephew who was also helping them do deals with the Chinese
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communists, well, companies.
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Your reaction to this, the fact that this has been like completely silent for the media
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as this broke.
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Well, Ben, I have to say, as you describe the facts, it seems very hard to believe.
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And it's even harder to believe because you're not seeing it on the news.
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It's not on the six o'clock news.
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It's not in the newspapers.
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Fox broke this yesterday.
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And Fox was going through the visitors logs during the Obama Biden White House.
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And they discovered in the visitors logs, James J.
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Bulger, who is the nephew of mobster Whitey Bulger.
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James J., who went by Jimmy, visited the White House.
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Now, the details are pretty remarkable.
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But before we do that, let's let's stop and address who's Whitey Bulger, who is Jimmy's
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uncle?
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Well, Whitey Bulger was a mob boss in Boston.
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Uh, he led what was called the Winter Hill Gang in Somerville, Massachusetts, and he was
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a mob boss for decades.
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And in fact, he was a mob boss who was on the FBI's 10 most wanted lists and was number
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two behind Osama bin Laden.
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So what else do we know about him?
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Well, we know that that unbeknownst to everyone, for decades, he was an FBI informant and he
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would report on the other mafia rival gangs in Boston.
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He would report to the FBI and the FBI in turn worked to make sure that the Winter Hill
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gang was basically ignored and he ended up ultimately, in his latter years, uh, being
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arrested, being sent to prison.
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And then when he was in a wheelchair, when he was quite elderly in prison, he was sent
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to the United States Penitentiary in Hazleton, uh, in West Virginia.
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And he was beaten to death by inmates, uh, in his wheelchair.
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And, and you noted, uh, movies that there've been a number of movies, uh, about Whitey Bulger,
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but, but the best one I actually think is, is, is the character of Frank Costello, who was
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played by Jack Nicholson in The Departed, uh, was based on Whitey Bulger.
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You remember Jack Nicholson?
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And that, that, that whole, it was a fictional Martin Scorsese, Scorsese made the movie, but
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it was based on Whitey Bulger and, and his nephew, it turns out is, is in the Obama Biden
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White House, but he's not just in the White House.
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He's meeting with White House officials, and he's deeply involved in business dealings
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with Hunter Biden and communist China.
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There's a reason that the corporate media doesn't want to want you to know about this story.
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It's a shocking one.
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Uh, I, I mentioned a movie earlier.
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I hope people go back and watch it because you'll understand more about who Whitey Bulger
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is.
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And he was also, a lot of people don't know the politics.
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He was actually the brother of a state Senator.
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Uh, and he's the most, as, as the movie Black Mass put it, he's the most famous violent criminal
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in the history of South Boston.
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He became, as you mentioned, the FBI informant, but there's certain people in politics center
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that you probably just don't want to have on a visitor log, right?
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Like, and Whitey Bulger, a mob boss's nephew working with a Chinese coming in and out of
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this White House, which has been unearthed by Fox with these visitor's logs.
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This is not a normal person you would want to come visit unless you're in the business
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with him and your son's doing business with him.
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Your brother's doing business with him.
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You're doing business with the Chinese.
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This is who you hang out with.
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These are the bedfellas that will do these types of shady and corrupt business deals.
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It actually makes total sense that you had to go down to the level of a mob boss's nephew
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to do deals with the Chinese Communist Party and Hunter Biden.
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That may be the most unshocking part of all of this that's been unearthed.
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Well, and if you look at some of the details, so this was a meeting that happened on August
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25th of 2016, and Jimmy Bulger, Whitey Bulger's nephew, is listed as visiting the White House
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for a West Wing tour.
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And the visitor's log show that he met with Anne-Marie Person.
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Now, who was Anne-Marie Person?
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She previously served as a general assistant at Hunter Biden's, quote, investment firm,
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Rosemont Seneca Partners.
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And she was at Rosemont Seneca Partners from 2009 until she joined Vice President Biden's
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staff in 2014.
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So she's sent by Hunter, presumably, to work for daddy.
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And then she's the point person to Whitey Bulger's nephew coming in.
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Now, Bulger is accompanied on the tour by his two daughters and by a woman named Eileen
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Kerwin, who shares the same address as Bulger.
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And between 2015 and 2016, Kerwin sent Bulger multiple articles about various business deals
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in China, and Bulger, in turn, would send them both to Hunter Biden and also to Devin
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Archer, who was his business partner.
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And what's not clear, what the White House hasn't confirmed, is, well, who did Jimmy Bulger
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meet with?
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We know who's listed on the visitor's log, but did Jimmy Bulger meet with Joe Biden?
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Did Jimmy Bulger meet with Biden's senior staff?
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We don't know.
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The White House isn't telling us, and the press isn't asking.
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But we also know more, which is that Bulger played an important role in Hunter Biden's
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business with the Chinese Communist Party.
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So he was chairman of a Boston-based group called the Thornton Group that launched a joint
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venture with Hunter Biden's Rosemont Seneca, and also with the Chinese investment firm Bohai
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Capital.
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And together, they created BHR Partners, which is controlled by the Bank of China Limited.
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Now, there are multiple emails back and forth, all of which Fox News reports on at great length.
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One email, which is dated January 27th, 2014, the subject line is, quote, meeting with Chinese
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ambassador.
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And it shows Jimmy Bulger suggesting that he meet, along with Hunter Biden and Devin Archer,
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with the Chinese ambassador in D.C. to talk about the fund.
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And if you look at the email exchange, Bulger writes in the email that it is, quote, pretty
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interesting that someone at the embassy in Beijing would be interested in what the domestic
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Boha PE fund, private equity fund, was up to.
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Thought you guys should see this.
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He also goes on to ask Hunter in an email, and this email is on July 22nd, 2014, to introduce
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the CEO of BHR, Jonathan Lee, and Andy Liu, who is a BHR committee member, to someone named
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Mr. Tung.
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Now, who is Mr. Tung?
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Well, according to the emails, Hunter Biden sat next to Tung at a 2013 dinner welcoming Vice
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President Biden to Beijing.
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In other words, Biden goes to Beijing, brings along Hunter.
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Hunter is seated right next to Mr. Tung.
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And what does Whitey Bulger's nephew say?
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Hey, we want to meet these guys.
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And here's what Bulger writes.
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I want to just read it verbatim, quote, it is my understanding that during the trip
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to Beijing that you made with your father, President Xi hosted a welcome dinner.
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At that dinner, you were seated right next to Mr. Tung.
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Therefore, Jay and Andy believe it would be very helpful if you could please send a brief
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email to Mr. Tung laying out that you are a partner and board member of BHR and that you
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would be very grateful to Mr. Tung if he could meet your local partners to discuss the fund.
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Hunter responded.
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He says he's happy to fulfill the request, but he couldn't remember Tung.
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Look, nobody said Hunter was competent.
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Yeah.
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Here's what Hunter writes in response.
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I'm going to read Hunter's response.
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Quote, happy to do this, but I have no email address for Mr. Tung.
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And he may well have sat next to me, but I don't recall the two gentlemen's names to
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my left and right.
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Regardless, I would suggest the team draft an email in Mandarin and English for my approval
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ASAP.
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So.
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Can we just hit pause there for a second and just talk about that?
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To me, how transparent Hunter Biden is being in that moment in this email.
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And again, this isn't a one off relationship.
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There's one aspect of this.
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People need to understand this relationship with Bolger apparently dates back to at least
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at least 2010.
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So this is a long relationship.
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This isn't some like new thing where they meet and they're like, all right, maybe we do
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some business together.
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They've been doing this for a while.
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But the transparency of Hunter Biden, he understands his role in the Biden crime family.
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He understands how to exploit his father's position and how to make money off it.
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Instantly saying, yeah, get me the email in English and Mandarin.
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Let's knock this out of the park.
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Let's go do business.
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There's no questions asked by him.
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This is what they do on the regular.
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And he understands his role.
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Look, sadly, that's exactly right.
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And this guy, Mr. Tung, apparently was met at the dinner that she hosted in Beijing for
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Daddy Biden.
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I mean, I mean, let's be clear.
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This is this is an operation of the entire Biden family.
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And it's designed to monetize the position of vice president from the Chinese Communist
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Party.
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And look, the email in Mandarin, it's not an email saying, hey, how's it going?
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Your country is really pretty.
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It's an email that is designed to say, hey, remember me?
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I'm the son of the vice president.
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Would you please meet with my my partners and give Chinese Chinese Communist government
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funds to my partners because we'd like to make like make a lot of money, please?
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I mean, this is it's not subtle.
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It's not hidden.
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And he's literally sitting there with the nephew of a mobster going, hey, this this is a great
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way to make money.
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Can we also talk about the Chinese just for a second?
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There are no accidents or coincidences with the Chinese government.
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The fact that this guy was sitting next to Hunter Biden also screams to me that the Chinese
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knew exactly what they were doing, trying to get into bed with the Biden crime family
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to have leverage over American policy and to have leverage, I would argue, over Hunter
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Biden.
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To me, this is no different than what they did with Fang Fang.
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This is no different what they've done with the driver that was in the senator's car as
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her driver for years.
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Yeah.
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Dianne Feinstein.
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Dianne Feinstein out of California.
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The Chinese don't coincidences don't happen with them.
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This wasn't just dumb luck.
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I would argue that probably the Chinese knew exactly what they were doing when they had
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these people sitting next to Hunter Biden.
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Look, of course they did.
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And, you know, you use the phrase Biden crime family, and that's a pretty provocative phrase.
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But but let me let's look at some of the facts.
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So also in these emails is yet another Biden family member.
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And and this is John Owens.
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Now, who is John Owens?
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John Owens is Hunter Biden's uncle.
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So John Owens is married to Valerie Biden Owens, who is President Biden's younger sister.
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And John Owens, he goes by Jack.
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He emails Hunter Biden on May 9th, 2014, telling him that his telemedicine companies reached
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a, quote, serious stage in negotiations with a China based insurance company, but said he
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wouldn't be able to, quote, seal the deal without a Chinese business license.
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Now, Owens goes on to say, quote, time pressures are very tight.
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Plus, the fact that we do not yet have one has caused a slight credibility bump in the
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company's mind.
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This all translates into the need that I have for a business license and one secured very
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quickly.
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Well, this might seem to be a mundane task.
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I've come to understand that such matters, matters such as a business license can end up
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taking an inordinate amount of time, time we do not have.
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Within an hour, Hunter turned to Bulger, Whitey Bulger's nephew, forwarded the email to him
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and copied Lynn on the email.
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And here's what Hunter says, quote, see email below.
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It's from my Uncle Jack.
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Is there a way we could help him expedite this?
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Time is of the essence here.
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Biden responds the next morning, says he'll discuss with Lynn how they can help.
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Three days later, Bulger sends an email saying, me and Michael had a call with Jack this morning,
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and I think we have the solution for his China problem.
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This is a family affair.
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This is an entire family that is enriching themselves from the Chinese communist government,
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and all of it hinges on daddy's position as vice president of the United States and now
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Senator, let's talk about China.
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China has a very sophisticated spying apparatus.
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Yes.
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They do business deals all over the world to gain influence over and to compromise people
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all over the world for their bigger initiatives.
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The Road Initiative is a perfect example of this that they have that they were working on.
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And they understand sophisticated ways, in essence, to bribe people.
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One of the things that you know about the Chinese is they didn't need Hunter Biden from a business
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standpoint.
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They didn't need to do deals with Whitey Bulger from a business perspective.
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They didn't need to do billion-dollar loans with the Biden apparatus and their companies
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that they did just 10 days funding those loans after Hunter Biden got off an Air Force Two trip
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back from China.
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They did this not from a business perspective.
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They did this from an influence perspective, I believe.
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And that was a good investment for them from an intelligence-gathering apparatus.
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Look, that's exactly right.
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And the Chinese are investing billions in, you look at their Belt and Road Initiative, where
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they are investing billions and building infrastructure in the developing world and using it to trap
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them in debt traps throughout the Third World, throughout Africa, throughout Latin America.
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You look at their espionage and influence operation in the United States, targeting politicians.
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I mean, you mentioned Eric Swalwell and the spy Fang Fang.
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Look, the amazing thing is this Chinese spy targeted Eric Swalwell and had an affair with him,
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allegedly.
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Uh, while he was a, an inconsequential player, not, not a, not a big, he wasn't the Speaker
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of the House, he, he wasn't Governor or Senator, he, he was a little bit player, but that's the
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level of penetration that they're engaged in is, is they're wanting to influence.
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And so you go straight to the White House, to the vice president of the United States,
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the appeal of deep penetration there and extensive, it is obvious.
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And look, it's not just limited to, to, to Whitey Bulger's nephew.
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Um, another guy, Eric, uh, sure, sure, when I don't know how you pronounce that, uh, was
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the former president of Rosemont Seneca was business partners with Hunter Biden.
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Um, how often do you think Sherwin, uh, visited the White House during the Obama administration?
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I can tell you this much, uh, probably a hell of a lot more than would be normal.
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Uh, try 27 times.
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Yeah.
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At least 27 times.
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Let's take another person.
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Uh, Rob Walker.
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Rob Walker was another of Hunter Biden's former business partners.
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Big money guy, by the way, he was, he's been named multiple times and, and these investigations
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on the house side is a guy that really was able to move significant amount of cash for
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the Bidens.
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Well, and, and regular listeners will remember, we did a pod a couple of weeks ago, uh, with
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the news that broke that the Biden family had received over a million dollars directly
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from the Chinese communists.
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All that money went through Rob Walker.
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He was the conduit where they transferred it to Rob Walker and Rob Walker transferred
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it to multiple Biden family members, including Hunter's sister-in-law.
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Well, you know how many times Rob Walker visited the white house?
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How many?
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At least 16 times.
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This was a, so Walker's on the white house log twice in 2019, five times in 20, twice in
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2009, five times in 2011, four times in 2012, twice in 2013, once in 2014, once in 2015, once
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in 2016.
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This is an ongoing business model and it's a business model that is designed to extract
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cash from the Chinese communists and in exchange, I believe for government influence at the highest
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level.
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And it's where the corporate media's lack of interest, lack of willingness to report
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this.
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Why is it I'm, I'm going to wager dollars to donuts that everyone listening to this podcast
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that, that you haven't heard this story, that you didn't know about this story.
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Um, unless you have read the Fox digital article on it, you probably, this is the first time
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you've heard of it, that should be deeply concerning.
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You, you, you know, there are things now, the media breathlessly, what do they want to
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cover?
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They want to cover for the 15th billionth times the payment to Stormy Daniels and the Alvin
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Bragg indictment and that ridiculous and baseless abuse of power by a radical left-wing Democrat
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district attorney in New York that dominates the news on every corporate media station.
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But here, I mean, Ben, seriously, if you sat down and wrote a screenplay and you went
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to Hollywood and pitched it and said, okay, here's my idea for a screenplay.
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Let's have the son of the vice president selling access to the vice president, the Chinese
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communists.
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Let's have him doing business with them.
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Let's have him traveling with dad and meeting with Xi and meeting with rich Chinese businessmen
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and then connecting them to his partners.
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And let's have millions of dollars going straight into their, their coffers.
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And okay, wait, this isn't sexy enough.
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Let's throw in the nephew of a notorious mobster helping grease the wheels.
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And by the way, let's not do this like, like deep throat during Watergate.
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Let's not do this in a parking garage, wearing a trench coat.
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Let's do it right out in the open.
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Let's do it in the West wing of the white house.
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Nobody would buy that screenplay.
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They'd laugh at you and say, this is stupid.
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Nobody would be this dumb.
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And if you did it, you'd get caught and that'd be it.
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Well, you know what?
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They have gotten caught, but the media is so corrupt.
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They don't care.
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There's also another aspect of the story and it connects to a lot of the, we refuse to answer
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questions aspect from this white house.
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And one of those questions is, Hey, who was on the visitor's logs in Delaware during this
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time, who was on the visitor's logs at the vice president's home during this time.
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If the visitor's logs at the white house showed this many visits by these individuals, I think
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it's fair to say there had to be at least some visits to Delaware and had to be some
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visits to his residents at the, when you're the vice president's pretty nice place.
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I had the opportunity to go there a couple of times during the Bush Cheney years.
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It's gorgeous.
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And the fact that, and we know business was done there.
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We've heard some names, but we can't even get a straight answer on that Senator as well.
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Look, we can't.
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There's no transparency.
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The Biden white house doesn't want us to know this.
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The media doesn't want us to know this, but I'll tell you, let's do a little bit more
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of, of what Fox has reported about the email back and forth.
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So let's be clear.
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Hunter wasn't just selling access to the Chinese.
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We, we know about the access he sold to, to Burisma, the Ukrainian natural gas company,
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but, but Hunter Biden also was doing business with, with two Mexican nationals, Miguel Aleman
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Velasco, uh, and Miguel Alegan Magnani, uh, both of whom visited the West wing on February
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26th, 2014.
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Uh, and vice president Biden was photographed with Hunter giving Velasco and Magnani a tour
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of the white house, the press briefing room.
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All right, let me read to you from the email Hunter Biden sent to these two Mexican business
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associates, because, you know, let me just read you what Hunter said, quote, I have brought
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every single person you asked me to bring to the effing white house and the vice president's
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house and the inauguration.
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And then you go completely silent, Hunter Biden wrote, he continues, quote, I don't know what
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it is that I did, but I'd like to know why I've delivered on every single thing you've
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ever asked.
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And you make me feel like I've, like I've done something to offend you.
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He's not hiding the business he's in.
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Yeah.
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Or the business plan.
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Like it, this is the plan.
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You asked me for favors.
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I hook you up and then I get this business in return.
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You get access to the white house cash.
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Yeah.
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You give me money for what I need with my quote businesses.
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And then you get access to my father, the White House, the Obama administration, in essence,
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because this was the eight years during the time they were doing all these schemes was
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under the Obama administration.
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And they had to know about these meetings.
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They had to know when he was flying and no one stopped it.
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No one stopped it.
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Very few people reported on it.
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The press doesn't want to report on it.
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The Biden Department of Justice doesn't care.
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They won't appoint a special prosecutor to investigate the Chinese communist government
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corruption implicating the Biden family.
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What do they want to do?
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They want to scapegoat Hunter Biden and paint him as a poor, troubled soul with substance abuse
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problems.
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Now, that is most assuredly true, but it is not a matter of public concern because he
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has struggled with addiction.
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It is a matter of public concern when it implicates corruption by the vice president of the United
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States or the president of the United States.
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And that's what the Biden DOJ is desperate to wall off.
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It's what the press just wants to say.
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Nothing to see here.
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Don't even look at it.
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Senator, you look at this revelation on Whitey Bulger's nephew.
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You look at how the scheme played out.
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You connect those dots with what you just read about Mexico.
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And you got to go back to the original, I would say, you know, alert.
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The original exclamation point.
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And that was Burisma.
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Now it makes you understand, in my opinion, Burisma that much more.
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The scheme was clear.
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You want influence.
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You give me money.
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Burisma, you put me on a board, right?
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And you pay me money every month, 87,000 a month.
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You give me bonuses.
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I can't speak your language.
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I know nothing about what Burisma does.
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I have no expertise in any of this.
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It just doesn't matter because my dad has the purse strings to what your government needs,
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which is money.
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And you take care of me.
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We'll take care of Ukraine.
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That seems to be exactly what happened.
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And it even makes more.
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It even becomes more transparent after you witness what we just went through.
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Look, that is exactly right.
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Um, this was a family business model and the business model is find areas where daddy has
00:29:50.800
influence, go to the foreign governments that care about that influence and sell that
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influence.
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Burisma is a Ukrainian natural gas company.
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Hunter Biden doesn't speak Ukrainian, doesn't know a damn thing about natural gas.
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And, and how much did they pay Hunter Biden to serve on the board of Burisma?
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They paid him a million dollars a year.
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You know, Exxon Mobil doesn't pay its board members a million dollars a year.
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Like that is a ton of money for a guy who knows nothing about what the business is about.
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Why did they pay him?
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Well, it so happened that Joe Biden had a unique involvement in Ukraine, which is that Barack
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Obama had asked Joe as vice president to be the point person on Ukraine.
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Not only that, but Burisma was controlled by a corrupt Ukrainian oligarch.
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There was a prosecutor in Ukraine investigating that oligarch and Joe Biden had control over
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And he threatened to withhold that aid unless the prosecutor investigating the corrupt oligarch
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was fired.
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And, and by the way, this is not me saying that this is out of Joe Biden's own words.
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If you remember, uh, that the now infamous son of a bitch tape, Ben, let's play Joe Biden
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describing what he did in Ukraine to ensure that the prosecutor investigating the oligarch
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Senator, here's that great clip of Biden at the Foreign, the Council on Foreign Relations,
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bragging about his corruption in real life in front of an audience.
00:33:15.720
They made, I mean, I'll give you one concrete example.
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I was, not I, but it just happened to be that was the assignment I got.
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I got all the good ones.
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And so I got Ukraine.
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And I remember going over convincing our team, our brothers, to convincing us that we
00:33:34.920
should be providing for loan guarantees.
00:33:37.680
And I went over, I guess, the 12th, 13th time to Kiev, and I was supposed to announce
00:33:44.760
that there was another billion-dollar loan guarantee.
00:33:47.200
And I had gotten a commitment from Poroshenko and from Yatsenyuk that they would take action
00:33:54.820
against a state prosecutor, and they didn't.
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So they said they had, they were walking out to the press conference, said, no, I said,
00:34:00.360
I'm not going to, we're not going to give you the billion dollars.
00:34:04.120
They said, you have no authority.
00:34:05.600
You're not the president.
00:34:06.440
The president said, I said, call him.
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I said, I'm telling you, you're not getting a billion dollars.
00:34:12.100
I said, you're not getting a billion.
00:34:13.460
I'm going to be leaving here, and I think it was, what, six hours?
00:34:15.820
I looked, I said, I'm leaving in six hours.
00:34:17.800
If the prosecutor's not fired, you're not getting the money.
00:34:20.880
Oh, son of a bitch.
00:34:23.060
He got fired.
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He got fired.
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There it is.
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The audience laughs.
00:34:27.720
That's how proud he was of the corruption and the power that he had to get things like
00:34:33.020
this done.
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And guess what?
00:34:34.000
His son was on the board of Burisma, and his son's company was being investigated.
00:34:38.360
But hey, if you get the prosecutor fired, Senator, you got no problems now, and you
00:34:42.840
held American dollars over their head that they desperately needed in Ukraine as the bait
00:34:50.820
to do what I'm telling you to do.
00:34:52.820
You know what that's called?
00:34:54.620
So there's a technical legal term.
00:34:56.220
It's a Latin term.
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It's called a quid pro quo.
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The quid pro quo, and you recall Democrats obsessing about quid pro quo in the first Trump
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impeachment.
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In that instance, there was an unequivocal quid pro quo.
00:35:08.840
Now, as we talked about at the beginning of verdict, when this podcast first launched,
00:35:15.060
a quid pro quo is not necessarily illegal.
00:35:17.800
All it means is an offer of, I will exchange a quid for a quo.
00:35:23.600
I will exchange this for that.
00:35:25.280
It's literally Latin for this for that.
00:35:27.220
But in that instance, Biden said, I'll give you a billion dollars of U.S. taxpayer money
00:35:34.720
in exchange for firing the prosecutor.
00:35:38.100
And Poroshenko, the head of Ukraine at the time, said, I accept your quid pro quo.
00:35:42.540
He's fired.
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Now, what makes a quid pro quo corrupt, what makes it bribery, is if you're being enriched,
00:35:54.140
if you're selling official action to benefit yourself, or in this case, to benefit your
00:36:00.160
family, your son.
00:36:02.500
And let's be clear, this is not you and me characterizing what Joe Biden did.
00:36:07.760
That is a recording from his own voice.
00:36:10.260
He was proud of it.
00:36:12.360
And, you know, you asked a minute ago, what does communist China get from funneling all
00:36:16.740
this money to the Biden family?
00:36:19.080
Well, look, I think Burisma illustrates the sorts of things they get.
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I got to say, for the Ukrainian oligarch, that was a great investment.
00:36:27.720
A million bucks a year to Hunter Biden.
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What a bargain.
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For a billion dollars back in American aid.
00:36:34.520
Well, not for the money, but for the billion dollars to be used to extort the Ukrainian
00:36:41.400
government to fire the prosecutor that was investigating you.
00:36:46.280
That's some pretty good leverage.
00:36:47.880
If you can pay a million bucks a year and get a billion dollars worth of pressure on the
00:36:54.160
government to protect your backside.
00:36:57.100
That's why people pay the Biden family.
00:36:59.560
There's just one problem, which is selling government favors for personal enrichment is
00:37:06.600
called bribery.
00:37:08.220
Senator, do you have any doubt in your mind that if you or any other Republican even got
00:37:12.060
remotely close to doing these types of deals, that you would be one out of office and two
00:37:16.940
indicted?
00:37:18.340
Look, of course.
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Let's be clear.
00:37:20.860
Donald Trump was just indicted for allegedly fraudulent bookkeeping seven years ago and
00:37:31.960
in a way that that violates no law.
00:37:37.820
Amazing.
00:37:38.660
There it is.
00:37:39.560
This is going to be very interesting to see how this plays out on the House side.
00:37:43.280
James Comer and Jim Jordan have made it clear that this new intel is going to be brought up.
00:37:48.940
There will be questions asked.
00:37:50.860
I wouldn't be surprised if the nephew of Bolger is called in to answer questions because this
00:37:56.440
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