Verdict with Ted Cruz - April 07, 2023


MOB BOSS Nephew Involved In BIDEN Family Business Deal w⧸ CCP


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Jimmy J. Bulger, the nephew of mobster Whitey Bulger visited the White House in 2016 and had business dealings with Hunter Biden and Chinese communist party leader Hunan Zedong. Senator Ted Cruz reacts to the news and asks why the media isn t talking about it.

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00:00:00.000 This is an iHeart Podcast.
00:00:02.540 Guaranteed human.
00:00:05.300 Welcome.
00:00:06.000 It is Verdict with Senator Ted Cruz.
00:00:08.260 Ben Ferguson with you.
00:00:09.720 Senator, there's a headline today.
00:00:11.880 And man, is the media running away from this one.
00:00:15.560 A mobster had a movie after him.
00:00:18.700 Whitey Bulger.
00:00:19.440 Great movie.
00:00:20.020 If you never saw it, go see it.
00:00:21.900 His nephew apparently had the hookup with Hunter Biden and his business associates that
00:00:27.540 were scoring VIP treatment at the White House when Joe Biden was the vice president.
00:00:33.600 And this is a mob boss's nephew who was also helping them do deals with the Chinese 0.94
00:00:39.640 communists, well, companies.
00:00:42.280 Your reaction to this, the fact that this has been like completely silent for the media
00:00:47.360 as this broke.
00:00:49.060 Well, Ben, I have to say, as you describe the facts, it seems very hard to believe.
00:00:53.880 And it's even harder to believe because you're not seeing it on the news.
00:00:58.220 It's not on the six o'clock news.
00:00:59.740 It's not in the newspapers.
00:01:02.160 Fox broke this yesterday.
00:01:04.740 And Fox was going through the visitors logs during the Obama Biden White House.
00:01:11.100 And they discovered in the visitors logs, James J.
00:01:15.400 Bulger, who is the nephew of mobster Whitey Bulger.
00:01:19.120 James J., who went by Jimmy, visited the White House.
00:01:25.080 Now, the details are pretty remarkable.
00:01:27.820 But before we do that, let's let's stop and address who's Whitey Bulger, who is Jimmy's 0.79
00:01:34.060 uncle?
00:01:35.180 Well, Whitey Bulger was a mob boss in Boston.
00:01:40.460 Uh, he led what was called the Winter Hill Gang in Somerville, Massachusetts, and he was
00:01:49.640 a mob boss for decades.
00:01:52.460 And in fact, he was a mob boss who was on the FBI's 10 most wanted lists and was number
00:02:00.820 two behind Osama bin Laden.
00:02:03.180 So what else do we know about him?
00:02:06.940 Well, we know that that unbeknownst to everyone, for decades, he was an FBI informant and he
00:02:14.500 would report on the other mafia rival gangs in Boston.
00:02:19.480 He would report to the FBI and the FBI in turn worked to make sure that the Winter Hill
00:02:28.360 gang was basically ignored and he ended up ultimately, in his latter years, uh, being
00:02:39.420 arrested, being sent to prison.
00:02:41.680 And then when he was in a wheelchair, when he was quite elderly in prison, he was sent
00:02:48.680 to the United States Penitentiary in Hazleton, uh, in West Virginia.
00:02:55.780 And he was beaten to death by inmates, uh, in his wheelchair.
00:03:01.220 And, and you noted, uh, movies that there've been a number of movies, uh, about Whitey Bulger,
00:03:07.880 but, but the best one I actually think is, is, is the character of Frank Costello, who was
00:03:14.080 played by Jack Nicholson in The Departed, uh, was based on Whitey Bulger.
00:03:19.840 You remember Jack Nicholson?
00:03:21.080 And that, that, that whole, it was a fictional Martin Scorsese, Scorsese made the movie, but
00:03:26.980 it was based on Whitey Bulger and, and his nephew, it turns out is, is in the Obama Biden
00:03:36.580 White House, but he's not just in the White House.
00:03:38.860 He's meeting with White House officials, and he's deeply involved in business dealings
00:03:47.120 with Hunter Biden and communist China.
00:03:52.740 There's a reason that the corporate media doesn't want to want you to know about this story.
00:03:57.780 It's a shocking one.
00:04:01.980 Uh, I, I mentioned a movie earlier.
00:04:04.080 I hope people go back and watch it because you'll understand more about who Whitey Bulger
00:04:07.940 is.
00:04:08.500 And he was also, a lot of people don't know the politics.
00:04:10.580 He was actually the brother of a state Senator.
00:04:12.680 Uh, and he's the most, as, as the movie Black Mass put it, he's the most famous violent criminal
00:04:17.620 in the history of South Boston.
00:04:19.480 He became, as you mentioned, the FBI informant, but there's certain people in politics center
00:04:24.420 that you probably just don't want to have on a visitor log, right?
00:04:27.140 Like, and Whitey Bulger, a mob boss's nephew working with a Chinese coming in and out of 1.00
00:04:32.920 this White House, which has been unearthed by Fox with these visitor's logs.
00:04:36.940 This is not a normal person you would want to come visit unless you're in the business
00:04:42.240 with him and your son's doing business with him.
00:04:45.160 Your brother's doing business with him.
00:04:46.480 You're doing business with the Chinese. 1.00
00:04:48.200 This is who you hang out with.
00:04:49.960 These are the bedfellas that will do these types of shady and corrupt business deals.
00:04:53.880 It actually makes total sense that you had to go down to the level of a mob boss's nephew
00:05:00.920 to do deals with the Chinese Communist Party and Hunter Biden.
00:05:04.460 That may be the most unshocking part of all of this that's been unearthed.
00:05:08.820 Well, and if you look at some of the details, so this was a meeting that happened on August
00:05:13.880 25th of 2016, and Jimmy Bulger, Whitey Bulger's nephew, is listed as visiting the White House
00:05:21.480 for a West Wing tour.
00:05:23.480 And the visitor's log show that he met with Anne-Marie Person.
00:05:29.460 Now, who was Anne-Marie Person? 0.87
00:05:31.060 She previously served as a general assistant at Hunter Biden's, quote, investment firm,
00:05:39.380 Rosemont Seneca Partners.
00:05:41.220 And she was at Rosemont Seneca Partners from 2009 until she joined Vice President Biden's
00:05:48.520 staff in 2014.
00:05:49.980 So she's sent by Hunter, presumably, to work for daddy.
00:05:53.520 And then she's the point person to Whitey Bulger's nephew coming in. 0.69
00:06:00.180 Now, Bulger is accompanied on the tour by his two daughters and by a woman named Eileen
00:06:07.360 Kerwin, who shares the same address as Bulger.
00:06:11.380 And between 2015 and 2016, Kerwin sent Bulger multiple articles about various business deals
00:06:20.120 in China, and Bulger, in turn, would send them both to Hunter Biden and also to Devin
00:06:25.520 Archer, who was his business partner.
00:06:28.840 And what's not clear, what the White House hasn't confirmed, is, well, who did Jimmy Bulger
00:06:36.820 meet with?
00:06:37.660 We know who's listed on the visitor's log, but did Jimmy Bulger meet with Joe Biden?
00:06:44.420 Did Jimmy Bulger meet with Biden's senior staff?
00:06:47.820 We don't know.
00:06:48.480 The White House isn't telling us, and the press isn't asking.
00:06:53.220 But we also know more, which is that Bulger played an important role in Hunter Biden's
00:07:04.080 business with the Chinese Communist Party.
00:07:06.880 So he was chairman of a Boston-based group called the Thornton Group that launched a joint
00:07:14.120 venture with Hunter Biden's Rosemont Seneca, and also with the Chinese investment firm Bohai
00:07:21.680 Capital.
00:07:22.980 And together, they created BHR Partners, which is controlled by the Bank of China Limited.
00:07:30.900 Now, there are multiple emails back and forth, all of which Fox News reports on at great length.
00:07:35.740 One email, which is dated January 27th, 2014, the subject line is, quote, meeting with Chinese
00:07:44.700 ambassador.
00:07:45.900 And it shows Jimmy Bulger suggesting that he meet, along with Hunter Biden and Devin Archer,
00:07:52.480 with the Chinese ambassador in D.C. to talk about the fund.
00:07:56.360 And if you look at the email exchange, Bulger writes in the email that it is, quote, pretty
00:08:05.180 interesting that someone at the embassy in Beijing would be interested in what the domestic
00:08:09.940 Boha PE fund, private equity fund, was up to.
00:08:14.260 Thought you guys should see this.
00:08:15.940 He also goes on to ask Hunter in an email, and this email is on July 22nd, 2014, to introduce
00:08:28.320 the CEO of BHR, Jonathan Lee, and Andy Liu, who is a BHR committee member, to someone named
00:08:40.000 Mr. Tung.
00:08:41.480 Now, who is Mr. Tung?
00:08:42.560 Well, according to the emails, Hunter Biden sat next to Tung at a 2013 dinner welcoming Vice
00:08:53.220 President Biden to Beijing.
00:08:55.280 In other words, Biden goes to Beijing, brings along Hunter.
00:09:00.260 Hunter is seated right next to Mr. Tung.
00:09:02.760 And what does Whitey Bulger's nephew say?
00:09:05.460 Hey, we want to meet these guys.
00:09:09.020 And here's what Bulger writes.
00:09:11.600 I want to just read it verbatim, quote, it is my understanding that during the trip
00:09:16.240 to Beijing that you made with your father, President Xi hosted a welcome dinner.
00:09:23.420 At that dinner, you were seated right next to Mr. Tung.
00:09:27.280 Therefore, Jay and Andy believe it would be very helpful if you could please send a brief
00:09:32.360 email to Mr. Tung laying out that you are a partner and board member of BHR and that you
00:09:38.800 would be very grateful to Mr. Tung if he could meet your local partners to discuss the fund.
00:09:45.820 Hunter responded.
00:09:47.020 He says he's happy to fulfill the request, but he couldn't remember Tung.
00:09:50.800 Look, nobody said Hunter was competent.
00:09:53.120 Yeah.
00:09:53.940 Here's what Hunter writes in response.
00:09:55.540 I'm going to read Hunter's response.
00:09:56.720 Quote, happy to do this, but I have no email address for Mr. Tung.
00:10:01.220 And he may well have sat next to me, but I don't recall the two gentlemen's names to
00:10:06.020 my left and right.
00:10:07.580 Regardless, I would suggest the team draft an email in Mandarin and English for my approval
00:10:13.860 ASAP.
00:10:15.960 So.
00:10:17.440 Can we just hit pause there for a second and just talk about that?
00:10:22.420 To me, how transparent Hunter Biden is being in that moment in this email.
00:10:28.000 And again, this isn't a one off relationship.
00:10:30.740 There's one aspect of this.
00:10:31.920 People need to understand this relationship with Bolger apparently dates back to at least
00:10:35.940 at least 2010.
00:10:38.240 So this is a long relationship.
00:10:40.120 This isn't some like new thing where they meet and they're like, all right, maybe we do
00:10:43.180 some business together.
00:10:44.540 They've been doing this for a while.
00:10:46.180 But the transparency of Hunter Biden, he understands his role in the Biden crime family.
00:10:51.820 He understands how to exploit his father's position and how to make money off it.
00:10:58.620 Instantly saying, yeah, get me the email in English and Mandarin.
00:11:01.980 Let's knock this out of the park.
00:11:03.840 Let's go do business.
00:11:05.580 There's no questions asked by him.
00:11:08.060 This is what they do on the regular.
00:11:10.660 And he understands his role.
00:11:13.500 Look, sadly, that's exactly right.
00:11:15.720 And this guy, Mr. Tung, apparently was met at the dinner that she hosted in Beijing for
00:11:23.380 Daddy Biden.
00:11:24.800 I mean, I mean, let's be clear.
00:11:26.180 This is this is an operation of the entire Biden family.
00:11:30.280 And it's designed to monetize the position of vice president from the Chinese Communist
00:11:36.920 Party.
00:11:37.380 And look, the email in Mandarin, it's not an email saying, hey, how's it going?
00:11:41.880 Your country is really pretty.
00:11:43.580 It's an email that is designed to say, hey, remember me?
00:11:47.440 I'm the son of the vice president.
00:11:48.760 Would you please meet with my my partners and give Chinese Chinese Communist government
00:11:54.820 funds to my partners because we'd like to make like make a lot of money, please?
00:11:59.240 I mean, this is it's not subtle.
00:12:02.480 It's not hidden.
00:12:03.380 And he's literally sitting there with the nephew of a mobster going, hey, this this is a great
00:12:08.280 way to make money.
00:12:10.180 Can we also talk about the Chinese just for a second?
00:12:12.380 There are no accidents or coincidences with the Chinese government.
00:12:16.660 The fact that this guy was sitting next to Hunter Biden also screams to me that the Chinese 1.00
00:12:23.080 knew exactly what they were doing, trying to get into bed with the Biden crime family
00:12:28.480 to have leverage over American policy and to have leverage, I would argue, over Hunter
00:12:35.060 Biden.
00:12:35.420 To me, this is no different than what they did with Fang Fang. 0.81
00:12:37.840 This is no different what they've done with the driver that was in the senator's car as
00:12:42.160 her driver for years.
00:12:43.660 Yeah.
00:12:43.840 Dianne Feinstein.
00:12:44.640 Dianne Feinstein out of California.
00:12:46.480 The Chinese don't coincidences don't happen with them. 1.00
00:12:50.960 This wasn't just dumb luck.
00:12:52.620 I would argue that probably the Chinese knew exactly what they were doing when they had 1.00
00:12:56.860 these people sitting next to Hunter Biden.
00:12:59.260 Look, of course they did.
00:13:01.180 And, you know, you use the phrase Biden crime family, and that's a pretty provocative phrase.
00:13:06.880 But but let me let's look at some of the facts.
00:13:09.480 So also in these emails is yet another Biden family member.
00:13:13.400 And and this is John Owens.
00:13:16.020 Now, who is John Owens?
00:13:17.200 John Owens is Hunter Biden's uncle.
00:13:19.080 So John Owens is married to Valerie Biden Owens, who is President Biden's younger sister.
00:13:26.460 And John Owens, he goes by Jack.
00:13:30.680 He emails Hunter Biden on May 9th, 2014, telling him that his telemedicine companies reached
00:13:39.280 a, quote, serious stage in negotiations with a China based insurance company, but said he
00:13:46.700 wouldn't be able to, quote, seal the deal without a Chinese business license.
00:13:52.180 Now, Owens goes on to say, quote, time pressures are very tight.
00:13:55.520 Plus, the fact that we do not yet have one has caused a slight credibility bump in the
00:14:00.640 company's mind.
00:14:01.500 This all translates into the need that I have for a business license and one secured very
00:14:07.000 quickly.
00:14:07.800 Well, this might seem to be a mundane task.
00:14:09.880 I've come to understand that such matters, matters such as a business license can end up
00:14:13.600 taking an inordinate amount of time, time we do not have.
00:14:17.960 Within an hour, Hunter turned to Bulger, Whitey Bulger's nephew, forwarded the email to him
00:14:26.020 and copied Lynn on the email.
00:14:29.140 And here's what Hunter says, quote, see email below.
00:14:32.600 It's from my Uncle Jack.
00:14:34.520 Is there a way we could help him expedite this?
00:14:36.880 Time is of the essence here.
00:14:38.180 Biden responds the next morning, says he'll discuss with Lynn how they can help.
00:14:43.340 Three days later, Bulger sends an email saying, me and Michael had a call with Jack this morning,
00:14:48.080 and I think we have the solution for his China problem.
00:14:52.320 This is a family affair.
00:14:55.360 This is an entire family that is enriching themselves from the Chinese communist government,
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00:17:08.660 Senator, let's talk about China.
00:17:11.260 China has a very sophisticated spying apparatus.
00:17:15.900 Yes.
00:17:16.160 They do business deals all over the world to gain influence over and to compromise people
00:17:23.040 all over the world for their bigger initiatives.
00:17:25.720 The Road Initiative is a perfect example of this that they have that they were working on.
00:17:30.820 And they understand sophisticated ways, in essence, to bribe people.
00:17:36.120 One of the things that you know about the Chinese is they didn't need Hunter Biden from a business
00:17:41.620 standpoint.
00:17:42.020 They didn't need to do deals with Whitey Bulger from a business perspective. 0.74
00:17:47.900 They didn't need to do billion-dollar loans with the Biden apparatus and their companies
00:17:52.560 that they did just 10 days funding those loans after Hunter Biden got off an Air Force Two trip
00:17:57.580 back from China.
00:17:58.960 They did this not from a business perspective.
00:18:02.900 They did this from an influence perspective, I believe.
00:18:06.580 And that was a good investment for them from an intelligence-gathering apparatus.
00:18:12.520 Look, that's exactly right.
00:18:14.460 And the Chinese are investing billions in, you look at their Belt and Road Initiative, where
00:18:20.820 they are investing billions and building infrastructure in the developing world and using it to trap 1.00
00:18:27.280 them in debt traps throughout the Third World, throughout Africa, throughout Latin America.
00:18:31.400 You look at their espionage and influence operation in the United States, targeting politicians.
00:18:37.500 I mean, you mentioned Eric Swalwell and the spy Fang Fang. 0.72
00:18:41.220 Look, the amazing thing is this Chinese spy targeted Eric Swalwell and had an affair with him, 0.92
00:18:49.620 allegedly.
00:18:50.100 Uh, while he was a, an inconsequential player, not, not a, not a big, he wasn't the Speaker
00:18:59.700 of the House, he, he wasn't Governor or Senator, he, he was a little bit player, but that's the
00:19:05.500 level of penetration that they're engaged in is, is they're wanting to influence.
00:19:10.400 And so you go straight to the White House, to the vice president of the United States,
00:19:16.360 the appeal of deep penetration there and extensive, it is obvious.
00:19:23.220 And look, it's not just limited to, to, to Whitey Bulger's nephew.
00:19:27.940 Um, another guy, Eric, uh, sure, sure, when I don't know how you pronounce that, uh, was
00:19:34.700 the former president of Rosemont Seneca was business partners with Hunter Biden.
00:19:39.080 Um, how often do you think Sherwin, uh, visited the White House during the Obama administration?
00:19:44.220 I can tell you this much, uh, probably a hell of a lot more than would be normal.
00:19:48.620 Uh, try 27 times.
00:19:50.620 Yeah.
00:19:50.940 At least 27 times.
00:19:52.840 Let's take another person. 0.99
00:19:54.700 Uh, Rob Walker.
00:19:57.580 Rob Walker was another of Hunter Biden's former business partners.
00:20:00.980 Big money guy, by the way, he was, he's been named multiple times and, and these investigations
00:20:06.220 on the house side is a guy that really was able to move significant amount of cash for
00:20:10.440 the Bidens.
00:20:11.360 Well, and, and regular listeners will remember, we did a pod a couple of weeks ago, uh, with
00:20:16.680 the news that broke that the Biden family had received over a million dollars directly
00:20:21.640 from the Chinese communists.
00:20:23.480 All that money went through Rob Walker.
00:20:26.240 He was the conduit where they transferred it to Rob Walker and Rob Walker transferred
00:20:30.080 it to multiple Biden family members, including Hunter's sister-in-law.
00:20:34.080 Well, you know how many times Rob Walker visited the white house?
00:20:37.760 How many?
00:20:38.860 At least 16 times.
00:20:41.480 This was a, so Walker's on the white house log twice in 2019, five times in 20, twice in
00:20:49.160 2009, five times in 2011, four times in 2012, twice in 2013, once in 2014, once in 2015, once
00:20:57.880 in 2016.
00:20:58.540 This is an ongoing business model and it's a business model that is designed to extract
00:21:09.440 cash from the Chinese communists and in exchange, I believe for government influence at the highest 0.72
00:21:18.420 level.
00:21:18.780 And it's where the corporate media's lack of interest, lack of willingness to report
00:21:25.580 this.
00:21:26.720 Why is it I'm, I'm going to wager dollars to donuts that everyone listening to this podcast
00:21:32.180 that, that you haven't heard this story, that you didn't know about this story.
00:21:36.420 Um, unless you have read the Fox digital article on it, you probably, this is the first time
00:21:43.200 you've heard of it, that should be deeply concerning.
00:21:49.440 You, you, you know, there are things now, the media breathlessly, what do they want to
00:21:54.820 cover?
00:21:55.140 They want to cover for the 15th billionth times the payment to Stormy Daniels and the Alvin 0.62
00:22:01.300 Bragg indictment and that ridiculous and baseless abuse of power by a radical left-wing Democrat
00:22:08.320 district attorney in New York that dominates the news on every corporate media station.
00:22:14.280 But here, I mean, Ben, seriously, if you sat down and wrote a screenplay and you went
00:22:19.720 to Hollywood and pitched it and said, okay, here's my idea for a screenplay.
00:22:24.260 Let's have the son of the vice president selling access to the vice president, the Chinese 1.00
00:22:28.480 communists.
00:22:29.060 Let's have him doing business with them.
00:22:30.680 Let's have him traveling with dad and meeting with Xi and meeting with rich Chinese businessmen
00:22:35.960 and then connecting them to his partners.
00:22:37.700 And let's have millions of dollars going straight into their, their coffers.
00:22:42.440 And okay, wait, this isn't sexy enough.
00:22:44.920 Let's throw in the nephew of a notorious mobster helping grease the wheels. 0.66
00:22:50.540 And by the way, let's not do this like, like deep throat during Watergate.
00:22:55.260 Let's not do this in a parking garage, wearing a trench coat.
00:22:58.200 Let's do it right out in the open.
00:22:59.780 Let's do it in the West wing of the white house. 0.75
00:23:03.220 Nobody would buy that screenplay. 1.00
00:23:04.900 They'd laugh at you and say, this is stupid. 1.00
00:23:07.680 Nobody would be this dumb. 1.00
00:23:09.680 And if you did it, you'd get caught and that'd be it. 1.00
00:23:12.380 Well, you know what?
00:23:13.000 They have gotten caught, but the media is so corrupt.
00:23:16.300 They don't care.
00:23:18.140 There's also another aspect of the story and it connects to a lot of the, we refuse to answer
00:23:24.740 questions aspect from this white house.
00:23:27.880 And one of those questions is, Hey, who was on the visitor's logs in Delaware during this
00:23:33.440 time, who was on the visitor's logs at the vice president's home during this time.
00:23:38.360 If the visitor's logs at the white house showed this many visits by these individuals, I think
00:23:45.260 it's fair to say there had to be at least some visits to Delaware and had to be some
00:23:50.140 visits to his residents at the, when you're the vice president's pretty nice place.
00:23:56.120 I had the opportunity to go there a couple of times during the Bush Cheney years.
00:23:59.800 It's gorgeous.
00:24:00.960 And the fact that, and we know business was done there.
00:24:04.320 We've heard some names, but we can't even get a straight answer on that Senator as well.
00:24:10.380 Look, we can't.
00:24:11.620 There's no transparency.
00:24:13.220 The Biden white house doesn't want us to know this.
00:24:15.280 The media doesn't want us to know this, but I'll tell you, let's do a little bit more
00:24:20.180 of, of what Fox has reported about the email back and forth.
00:24:23.760 So let's be clear.
00:24:25.240 Hunter wasn't just selling access to the Chinese.
00:24:27.580 We, we know about the access he sold to, to Burisma, the Ukrainian natural gas company,
00:24:33.340 but, but Hunter Biden also was doing business with, with two Mexican nationals, Miguel Aleman
00:24:39.500 Velasco, uh, and Miguel Alegan Magnani, uh, both of whom visited the West wing on February
00:24:47.880 26th, 2014.
00:24:50.240 Uh, and vice president Biden was photographed with Hunter giving Velasco and Magnani a tour
00:24:58.360 of the white house, the press briefing room.
00:25:00.640 All right, let me read to you from the email Hunter Biden sent to these two Mexican business
00:25:07.560 associates, because, you know, let me just read you what Hunter said, quote, I have brought
00:25:14.100 every single person you asked me to bring to the effing white house and the vice president's
00:25:21.320 house and the inauguration.
00:25:23.920 And then you go completely silent, Hunter Biden wrote, he continues, quote, I don't know what
00:25:30.600 it is that I did, but I'd like to know why I've delivered on every single thing you've
00:25:34.960 ever asked.
00:25:35.780 And you make me feel like I've, like I've done something to offend you.
00:25:42.020 He's not hiding the business he's in.
00:25:45.280 Yeah.
00:25:45.840 Or the business plan.
00:25:47.440 Like it, this is the plan.
00:25:48.820 You asked me for favors.
00:25:50.380 I hook you up and then I get this business in return.
00:25:53.900 You get access to the white house cash.
00:25:56.080 Yeah.
00:25:56.320 You give me money for what I need with my quote businesses.
00:25:59.900 And then you get access to my father, the White House, the Obama administration, in essence,
00:26:06.960 because this was the eight years during the time they were doing all these schemes was
00:26:10.460 under the Obama administration.
00:26:11.880 And they had to know about these meetings.
00:26:13.860 They had to know when he was flying and no one stopped it.
00:26:17.780 No one stopped it.
00:26:19.260 Very few people reported on it.
00:26:22.860 The press doesn't want to report on it.
00:26:24.820 The Biden Department of Justice doesn't care.
00:26:27.940 They won't appoint a special prosecutor to investigate the Chinese communist government
00:26:33.680 corruption implicating the Biden family.
00:26:37.220 What do they want to do?
00:26:38.120 They want to scapegoat Hunter Biden and paint him as a poor, troubled soul with substance abuse
00:26:45.540 problems.
00:26:46.060 Now, that is most assuredly true, but it is not a matter of public concern because he
00:26:53.060 has struggled with addiction.
00:26:55.100 It is a matter of public concern when it implicates corruption by the vice president of the United
00:27:01.020 States or the president of the United States.
00:27:03.140 And that's what the Biden DOJ is desperate to wall off.
00:27:07.500 It's what the press just wants to say.
00:27:09.880 Nothing to see here.
00:27:10.880 Don't even look at it.
00:27:13.520 It is fundamentally corrupt.
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00:28:38.840 Senator, you look at this revelation on Whitey Bulger's nephew.
00:28:43.960 You look at how the scheme played out.
00:28:46.160 You connect those dots with what you just read about Mexico.
00:28:49.500 And you got to go back to the original, I would say, you know, alert.
00:28:55.740 The original exclamation point.
00:28:57.860 And that was Burisma.
00:29:00.000 Now it makes you understand, in my opinion, Burisma that much more.
00:29:04.380 The scheme was clear.
00:29:05.820 You want influence.
00:29:07.420 You give me money.
00:29:08.800 Burisma, you put me on a board, right?
00:29:11.300 And you pay me money every month, 87,000 a month.
00:29:14.560 You give me bonuses.
00:29:16.020 I can't speak your language. 0.98
00:29:17.280 I know nothing about what Burisma does.
00:29:19.300 I have no expertise in any of this.
00:29:20.860 It just doesn't matter because my dad has the purse strings to what your government needs,
00:29:27.240 which is money.
00:29:28.940 And you take care of me.
00:29:30.760 We'll take care of Ukraine. 1.00
00:29:32.880 That seems to be exactly what happened.
00:29:35.360 And it even makes more.
00:29:36.460 It even becomes more transparent after you witness what we just went through.
00:29:40.460 Look, that is exactly right.
00:29:42.700 Um, this was a family business model and the business model is find areas where daddy has
00:29:50.800 influence, go to the foreign governments that care about that influence and sell that
00:29:59.000 influence.
00:30:00.220 Burisma is a Ukrainian natural gas company. 0.67
00:30:03.080 Hunter Biden doesn't speak Ukrainian, doesn't know a damn thing about natural gas.
00:30:07.580 And, and how much did they pay Hunter Biden to serve on the board of Burisma?
00:30:12.100 They paid him a million dollars a year.
00:30:15.860 You know, Exxon Mobil doesn't pay its board members a million dollars a year.
00:30:19.480 Like that is a ton of money for a guy who knows nothing about what the business is about.
00:30:27.240 Why did they pay him?
00:30:28.200 Well, it so happened that Joe Biden had a unique involvement in Ukraine, which is that Barack
00:30:34.620 Obama had asked Joe as vice president to be the point person on Ukraine.
00:30:41.760 Not only that, but Burisma was controlled by a corrupt Ukrainian oligarch.
00:30:48.980 There was a prosecutor in Ukraine investigating that oligarch and Joe Biden had control over
00:30:57.920 billions of dollars of American aid.
00:31:00.640 And he threatened to withhold that aid unless the prosecutor investigating the corrupt oligarch
00:31:08.820 was fired.
00:31:10.280 And, and by the way, this is not me saying that this is out of Joe Biden's own words. 0.94
00:31:15.120 If you remember, uh, that the now infamous son of a bitch tape, Ben, let's play Joe Biden 0.59
00:31:21.960 describing what he did in Ukraine to ensure that the prosecutor investigating the oligarch 0.96
00:31:30.660 was fired.
00:31:32.140 Senator, before we play that, uh, that, that famous clip now of Joe Biden admitting strong
00:31:36.940 arming Ukraine to fire a prosecutor to protect his own son.
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00:33:04.980 Senator, here's that great clip of Biden at the Foreign, the Council on Foreign Relations,
00:33:10.860 bragging about his corruption in real life in front of an audience.
00:33:15.720 They made, I mean, I'll give you one concrete example.
00:33:19.160 I was, not I, but it just happened to be that was the assignment I got.
00:33:23.700 I got all the good ones.
00:33:26.300 And so I got Ukraine.
00:33:27.980 And I remember going over convincing our team, our brothers, to convincing us that we
00:33:34.920 should be providing for loan guarantees.
00:33:37.680 And I went over, I guess, the 12th, 13th time to Kiev, and I was supposed to announce
00:33:44.760 that there was another billion-dollar loan guarantee.
00:33:47.200 And I had gotten a commitment from Poroshenko and from Yatsenyuk that they would take action
00:33:54.820 against a state prosecutor, and they didn't.
00:33:57.400 So they said they had, they were walking out to the press conference, said, no, I said,
00:34:00.360 I'm not going to, we're not going to give you the billion dollars.
00:34:04.120 They said, you have no authority.
00:34:05.600 You're not the president.
00:34:06.440 The president said, I said, call him.
00:34:08.120 I said, I'm telling you, you're not getting a billion dollars.
00:34:12.100 I said, you're not getting a billion.
00:34:13.460 I'm going to be leaving here, and I think it was, what, six hours?
00:34:15.820 I looked, I said, I'm leaving in six hours.
00:34:17.800 If the prosecutor's not fired, you're not getting the money. 1.00
00:34:20.880 Oh, son of a bitch. 1.00
00:34:23.060 He got fired. 1.00
00:34:24.080 He got fired.
00:34:25.240 There it is.
00:34:26.080 The audience laughs.
00:34:27.720 That's how proud he was of the corruption and the power that he had to get things like
00:34:33.020 this done.
00:34:33.480 And guess what?
00:34:34.000 His son was on the board of Burisma, and his son's company was being investigated.
00:34:38.360 But hey, if you get the prosecutor fired, Senator, you got no problems now, and you
00:34:42.840 held American dollars over their head that they desperately needed in Ukraine as the bait 0.97
00:34:50.820 to do what I'm telling you to do.
00:34:52.820 You know what that's called?
00:34:54.620 So there's a technical legal term.
00:34:56.220 It's a Latin term.
00:34:57.600 It's called a quid pro quo.
00:34:59.480 The quid pro quo, and you recall Democrats obsessing about quid pro quo in the first Trump
00:35:04.140 impeachment.
00:35:04.560 In that instance, there was an unequivocal quid pro quo.
00:35:08.840 Now, as we talked about at the beginning of verdict, when this podcast first launched,
00:35:15.060 a quid pro quo is not necessarily illegal.
00:35:17.800 All it means is an offer of, I will exchange a quid for a quo.
00:35:23.600 I will exchange this for that.
00:35:25.280 It's literally Latin for this for that.
00:35:27.220 But in that instance, Biden said, I'll give you a billion dollars of U.S. taxpayer money
00:35:34.720 in exchange for firing the prosecutor.
00:35:38.100 And Poroshenko, the head of Ukraine at the time, said, I accept your quid pro quo.
00:35:42.540 He's fired.
00:35:43.220 Now, what makes a quid pro quo corrupt, what makes it bribery, is if you're being enriched,
00:35:54.140 if you're selling official action to benefit yourself, or in this case, to benefit your
00:36:00.160 family, your son.
00:36:02.500 And let's be clear, this is not you and me characterizing what Joe Biden did.
00:36:07.760 That is a recording from his own voice.
00:36:10.260 He was proud of it.
00:36:12.360 And, you know, you asked a minute ago, what does communist China get from funneling all 0.97
00:36:16.740 this money to the Biden family?
00:36:19.080 Well, look, I think Burisma illustrates the sorts of things they get.
00:36:22.340 I got to say, for the Ukrainian oligarch, that was a great investment.
00:36:27.720 A million bucks a year to Hunter Biden.
00:36:30.120 What a bargain.
00:36:31.360 For a billion dollars back in American aid.
00:36:34.520 Well, not for the money, but for the billion dollars to be used to extort the Ukrainian 0.99
00:36:41.400 government to fire the prosecutor that was investigating you.
00:36:46.280 That's some pretty good leverage.
00:36:47.880 If you can pay a million bucks a year and get a billion dollars worth of pressure on the
00:36:54.160 government to protect your backside. 0.67
00:36:57.100 That's why people pay the Biden family.
00:36:59.560 There's just one problem, which is selling government favors for personal enrichment is
00:37:06.600 called bribery.
00:37:08.220 Senator, do you have any doubt in your mind that if you or any other Republican even got
00:37:12.060 remotely close to doing these types of deals, that you would be one out of office and two
00:37:16.940 indicted?
00:37:18.340 Look, of course.
00:37:20.100 Let's be clear.
00:37:20.860 Donald Trump was just indicted for allegedly fraudulent bookkeeping seven years ago and
00:37:31.960 in a way that that violates no law.
00:37:37.820 Amazing.
00:37:38.660 There it is.
00:37:39.560 This is going to be very interesting to see how this plays out on the House side.
00:37:43.280 James Comer and Jim Jordan have made it clear that this new intel is going to be brought up.
00:37:48.940 There will be questions asked.
00:37:50.860 I wouldn't be surprised if the nephew of Bolger is called in to answer questions because this
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