Verdict with Ted Cruz - March 31, 2022


Mr. Magoo Goes to Poland


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Ted Cruz responds to Joe Biden's gaffe about Syria during a foreign trip, and explains why it could have major implications for U.S. national security and our role in the first major war in Europe since World War II.

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00:00:10.880 You're hearing criticism from the right.
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00:00:14.860 People are saying that the tour was filled with gaffes.
00:00:18.640 I don't think that quite expresses it.
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00:00:27.440 What Joe Biden did was accidentally commit the United States
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00:00:40.540 and it has major implications for U.S. national security
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00:04:31.000 Welcome back to Verdict with Ted Cruz.
00:04:33.280 I'm Michael Knowles.
00:04:35.120 Senator,
00:04:36.160 there are flubs
00:04:37.660 and there are flubs.
00:04:39.260 There are bad tours around the world
00:04:41.660 and there are really,
00:04:42.760 really bad tours around the world
00:04:43.940 amid a war in Europe.
00:04:45.900 President Biden during this disaster
00:04:50.000 committed America
00:04:51.480 to using chemical weapons,
00:04:53.380 called for regime change in Russia
00:04:55.640 and said that American troops
00:04:57.380 are going to be going to Ukraine.
00:05:00.180 Apparently the White House
00:05:01.500 has walked this back.
00:05:03.100 The White House coming out
00:05:04.260 against the President
00:05:05.220 of the United States
00:05:06.080 is astounding in and of itself.
00:05:09.220 What happened
00:05:10.460 and what does it mean
00:05:11.440 for America's involvement in this war?
00:05:12.920 Well, it's the most spectacularly
00:05:16.520 disastrous foreign trip
00:05:18.160 for a president
00:05:19.720 that I can remember.
00:05:21.060 And it actually beats out
00:05:22.580 George Herbert Walker Bush
00:05:23.920 when he went to Japan
00:05:24.760 and threw up
00:05:25.720 on the Prime Minister of Japan.
00:05:27.280 And that, by the way,
00:05:28.480 is not a great look
00:05:29.520 for a president
00:05:30.140 to be vomiting
00:05:30.800 on a head of state.
00:05:32.320 But in this instance,
00:05:34.420 we would have been better off
00:05:35.560 if Biden had simply thrown up.
00:05:38.960 You know, as I counted, Michael,
00:05:40.660 there were five separate screw-ups
00:05:43.240 on one trip.
00:05:44.780 The first that's gotten
00:05:46.000 the most attention
00:05:46.760 is when he came out
00:05:48.800 in favor of regime change
00:05:50.160 and said, you know,
00:05:52.660 how can this man stay in power?
00:05:54.600 Dear God,
00:05:55.100 how can this man stay in power?
00:05:56.960 And by the way,
00:05:58.220 it is a potentially reasonable position
00:06:02.240 to be in favor of regime change.
00:06:04.780 Except he didn't know
00:06:05.700 he was in favor of regime change.
00:06:07.400 He made the policy.
00:06:08.580 And then the White House
00:06:10.500 immediately walked it back
00:06:11.480 and retracted it
00:06:12.140 and said, oh, no, no, no, no.
00:06:13.060 He didn't mean anything by it.
00:06:16.120 Look, we've talked about
00:06:17.260 in this podcast
00:06:17.920 how I actually think
00:06:20.220 through taking away
00:06:22.240 Russia's oil and gas customers,
00:06:24.020 through taking away
00:06:24.880 the billions they make
00:06:26.100 selling energy,
00:06:27.540 that we could put real pressure
00:06:29.180 on the oligarchs
00:06:30.260 and the KGB holdovers
00:06:32.000 to get rid of Putin.
00:06:33.620 And that would be,
00:06:34.400 the world would be better
00:06:35.360 with Putin out of power.
00:06:36.380 But Biden was not actually
00:06:38.980 making an intelligent position
00:06:40.800 as commander-in-chief
00:06:42.040 calling for pressure 0.79
00:06:44.100 to change the corrupt dictator 0.97
00:06:47.540 in Russia.
00:06:49.000 He was just sort of musing out loud.
00:06:52.080 Well, and you can tell
00:06:53.340 it wasn't intentional
00:06:54.280 because he reversed his position
00:06:56.120 when the staff members
00:06:57.200 at the White House told him to.
00:06:58.660 So this was a major flub
00:07:00.600 in the middle of a war
00:07:01.840 that's already quite tense. 0.89
00:07:03.340 Yeah, and it's a big damn deal. 0.69
00:07:05.200 Um, number two, 0.85
00:07:08.580 he told the 82nd Airborne
00:07:10.120 they were going to Ukraine.
00:07:11.420 He's talking to the 82nd Airborne
00:07:12.840 and said,
00:07:13.120 when you're in Ukraine,
00:07:13.960 this is what you'll see.
00:07:15.220 You'll see Ukrainian women 0.95
00:07:16.280 in front of tanks.
00:07:17.940 And the soldiers there are going,
00:07:20.460 what do you mean
00:07:21.540 when we're in Ukraine?
00:07:22.840 Like, we're not sending
00:07:25.300 our guys to Ukraine.
00:07:27.080 And so that was,
00:07:28.640 that was gaffe number two.
00:07:30.060 They had to walk that back.
00:07:31.020 It said, no, no, no, no,
00:07:31.600 the 82nd Airborne
00:07:32.480 is not going to Ukraine.
00:07:33.340 The, the, when you're in Ukraine,
00:07:35.100 it's just a figure of speech.
00:07:37.460 You know, you know,
00:07:38.320 like, like everyone uses it
00:07:39.760 when you're in Ukraine.
00:07:40.600 It's just, just how you
00:07:41.700 start a conversation.
00:07:42.620 Well, you say when in Rome.
00:07:43.960 And just like you say that,
00:07:45.140 you say when in Ukraine.
00:07:46.080 Yeah.
00:07:46.880 Yeah.
00:07:48.100 Uh, number three
00:07:49.860 was chemical weapons.
00:07:51.380 And you, you referenced it
00:07:53.180 in the opening where he said,
00:07:54.560 look, if Russia uses chemical weapons,
00:07:57.860 we will respond in kind. 0.99
00:07:59.360 Like, holy crap. 0.98
00:08:01.380 What? 0.99
00:08:02.060 Like the president just said,
00:08:03.280 we're going to use
00:08:03.740 chemical weapons on Russia.
00:08:05.000 That, that's kind of bad.
00:08:06.680 Yeah.
00:08:07.200 Um, you know,
00:08:08.940 we do have treaty obligations
00:08:10.400 against using chemical weapons.
00:08:12.920 He, of course, didn't mean it.
00:08:14.060 They immediately walked it back
00:08:15.020 and said, no, no, no, no.
00:08:15.800 We will respond somehow.
00:08:18.020 Yeah.
00:08:18.400 But not actually in kind
00:08:21.020 using chemical weapons.
00:08:22.080 So that's, that's gaffe number three.
00:08:24.200 Uh, gaffe number four
00:08:25.540 is a little technical,
00:08:26.440 but, but is consequential,
00:08:28.420 which is he said,
00:08:30.040 sanctions like sanctions
00:08:31.740 on Nord Stream 2
00:08:32.720 don't deter conduct
00:08:35.300 and they're not meant
00:08:36.060 to deter conduct.
00:08:37.820 Now, mind you,
00:08:39.560 for months,
00:08:40.460 the Biden administration's
00:08:41.660 entire talking points
00:08:42.740 for why they didn't impose
00:08:44.620 sanctions on Nord Stream 2,
00:08:45.900 why they waived the sanctions
00:08:47.040 was that the threat of sanctions
00:08:48.640 was a deterrent
00:08:49.460 that would prevent Putin
00:08:50.400 from invading Ukraine.
00:08:51.700 So it's literally what they said
00:08:53.100 day after day,
00:08:54.420 week after week,
00:08:55.300 month after month.
00:08:55.940 They stood up and said,
00:08:56.560 oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
00:08:57.820 The sanctions are not
00:08:58.940 about deterring anything.
00:09:00.100 Right.
00:09:00.540 They've walked that back.
00:09:02.160 And then the fifth gaffe,
00:09:04.040 it is one that has been
00:09:06.260 less noticed,
00:09:07.180 but it, but in many ways,
00:09:08.220 it's, it's one of the most shocking.
00:09:10.680 So when he was doing
00:09:11.720 a press conference,
00:09:12.800 explaining away
00:09:13.940 his other four gaffes,
00:09:15.180 um, where he famously
00:09:17.340 had a note card
00:09:18.100 where he was instructed
00:09:18.920 what to read.
00:09:19.640 I didn't mean regime change.
00:09:21.360 I was just expressing
00:09:22.220 moral outrage.
00:09:22.980 Um,
00:09:24.680 his explanation was,
00:09:28.460 I was just talking
00:09:31.300 about the Ukrainian troops
00:09:35.300 that we are training
00:09:37.500 in Poland right now.
00:09:39.020 and everyone said
00:09:42.240 the, the, the, the,
00:09:43.580 the what we're what
00:09:44.540 and where come again.
00:09:45.840 Yeah.
00:09:46.240 And, and if we are doing that,
00:09:49.420 I don't know about it.
00:09:50.900 So I, I'm not in a position
00:09:52.800 to reveal any classified
00:09:53.800 information because I don't
00:09:55.180 have any on this topic,
00:09:56.440 but if what Biden said
00:09:58.960 is right,
00:10:00.340 then he almost surely
00:10:01.860 revealed classified
00:10:03.600 information on national
00:10:05.660 and globally televised,
00:10:07.400 uh, TV.
00:10:10.500 And then the White House
00:10:11.580 immediately walked that back
00:10:12.600 and said, no, no, no, no,
00:10:13.220 we're not saying we're
00:10:13.920 training Ukrainian troops
00:10:14.880 in Poland,
00:10:15.680 which is what the president
00:10:16.900 just said.
00:10:17.980 Now, interestingly enough,
00:10:19.420 and it's kind of like
00:10:20.200 the first point.
00:10:21.100 So one in five
00:10:21.980 have some similarities.
00:10:22.840 Regime change and America
00:10:26.440 trading Ukrainian troops
00:10:27.700 in, in Poland.
00:10:29.320 The president actually
00:10:30.540 has the authority
00:10:31.540 to release classified
00:10:32.640 information.
00:10:33.980 So if the commander
00:10:34.660 in chief makes a
00:10:35.560 determination that it
00:10:37.500 is in the national
00:10:38.240 interest for the public
00:10:39.180 to know this,
00:10:39.880 the president can tell
00:10:42.000 people classified
00:10:42.740 information, but Biden
00:10:45.420 had no clue he was
00:10:46.360 doing that.
00:10:47.180 No one can argue
00:10:48.420 with a straight face
00:10:49.440 that he was exercising
00:10:51.040 his presidential authority
00:10:52.660 to release classified
00:10:53.540 information.
00:10:54.140 He was just presumably
00:10:56.020 repeating whatever
00:10:57.080 some briefer had told
00:10:58.420 him a few minutes
00:10:59.920 earlier.
00:11:01.340 And I got to say,
00:11:02.460 listen, I have been
00:11:03.740 watching foreign policy
00:11:07.080 for 30, 40 years
00:11:09.580 and engaged in foreign
00:11:11.020 policy for a decade.
00:11:13.080 I literally cannot think
00:11:15.060 of another example
00:11:15.960 where a president
00:11:16.780 has screwed this many
00:11:18.760 things up of this
00:11:20.100 great a consequence
00:11:21.040 in less than 48 hours.
00:11:24.460 Well, you compared
00:11:25.340 the president to Mr.
00:11:26.900 Magoo the other day
00:11:27.980 and I laughed and I
00:11:29.460 laughed because it's
00:11:30.180 true.
00:11:30.900 So it raises this
00:11:32.160 question and I'm,
00:11:33.020 I'm hesitant even to
00:11:34.440 bring it up because
00:11:35.420 every time any president
00:11:37.340 is in office, the
00:11:38.500 opposition says he's 0.98
00:11:39.640 crazy. 1.00
00:11:40.140 He's a madman. 1.00
00:11:40.940 We need to invoke the 1.00
00:11:41.640 25th amendment.
00:11:42.800 We need to remove him
00:11:43.540 for, he's unfit for
00:11:44.340 office.
00:11:45.120 This, they did it to
00:11:45.820 Trump.
00:11:46.280 They did it to Obama,
00:11:47.920 I suppose, to some
00:11:48.660 degree.
00:11:49.040 They certainly did
00:11:49.660 it to Bush.
00:11:50.540 They always do it
00:11:51.980 and it wasn't true.
00:11:53.000 None of those people
00:11:53.580 were senile.
00:11:54.580 None of them had a
00:11:55.340 mental impairment that
00:11:56.200 stopped them from
00:11:56.740 doing their job.
00:11:57.500 And beyond the
00:11:58.940 ordinary trappings
00:12:00.040 that go with office.
00:12:01.460 In this case, it
00:12:03.080 seems to me it's
00:12:04.460 different, not in
00:12:05.460 degree, but in
00:12:06.200 kind.
00:12:06.740 It seems clear, I
00:12:08.040 think even to honest
00:12:09.000 liberals, that Joe
00:12:10.340 Biden has some age
00:12:13.040 related impairment.
00:12:14.240 He's not, he's not
00:12:15.380 the man he was five
00:12:16.380 or ten years ago and
00:12:17.240 he was never all
00:12:17.880 that sharp to
00:12:18.760 begin with.
00:12:19.280 So it does raise
00:12:20.400 the question, should
00:12:22.500 we be talking about
00:12:24.220 invoking the 25th
00:12:25.340 amendment now that
00:12:26.000 this is a national
00:12:26.900 security risk?
00:12:27.880 You know, there's
00:12:30.120 no doubt he is
00:12:31.420 diminished and
00:12:32.300 diminished significantly
00:12:33.760 due to age.
00:12:36.000 I think the
00:12:37.160 threshold for the
00:12:37.900 25th amendment is
00:12:39.240 really damn high.
00:12:40.600 and it's 0.98
00:12:41.860 particularly damn
00:12:42.920 high when the 0.97
00:12:44.300 voters were on
00:12:45.220 notice of the
00:12:47.180 impairment and
00:12:48.760 elected him anyway.
00:12:50.420 And I got to say,
00:12:52.300 you know, look, it
00:12:53.020 was not a secret a
00:12:55.680 year and a half ago
00:12:56.520 that Joe Biden had,
00:12:57.980 you know, lost about
00:12:59.760 65 miles on his
00:13:01.400 fastball.
00:13:01.980 Right.
00:13:03.480 You know, his
00:13:04.880 fastball is a
00:13:05.660 wiffle ball.
00:13:06.160 And that was
00:13:08.580 blazingly obvious.
00:13:12.200 So I would be
00:13:13.260 hesitant to go down
00:13:14.140 the road of the
00:13:14.660 25th amendment.
00:13:15.320 I think it's
00:13:15.740 dangerous as hell.
00:13:17.460 I think having a
00:13:18.700 president in
00:13:20.420 office who is
00:13:22.860 less than fully
00:13:24.620 aware of what's
00:13:25.380 going on, who
00:13:27.220 our enemies
00:13:28.200 believe is less
00:13:29.800 than fully aware
00:13:30.520 of what's going
00:13:31.160 on, who our
00:13:32.240 friends believe is
00:13:33.440 less than fully
00:13:34.040 aware of what's
00:13:34.660 going on, who
00:13:35.240 everybody believes
00:13:36.620 is to a
00:13:38.860 significant degree
00:13:39.700 out of it, that
00:13:40.480 that's a real
00:13:41.280 problem.
00:13:44.200 It's one of the
00:13:45.160 reasons I think
00:13:46.500 Putin invaded
00:13:47.180 Ukraine, because 0.95
00:13:48.080 Biden is so
00:13:49.840 weak and 0.99
00:13:50.360 ineffective that
00:13:51.160 he didn't
00:13:51.680 believe there'd
00:13:52.760 be meaningful
00:13:53.180 pushback.
00:13:54.140 Now, I
00:13:55.180 agree with you,
00:13:56.280 actually.
00:13:56.700 I don't think
00:13:57.700 that it should
00:13:58.720 be a sort of
00:13:59.680 flippant decision
00:14:00.540 to remove a
00:14:01.480 president using
00:14:02.080 the 25th
00:14:02.580 amendment.
00:14:02.880 I think you
00:14:03.160 make a good
00:14:03.520 argument here.
00:14:04.080 The voters knew
00:14:04.600 about it.
00:14:05.240 Biden wasn't
00:14:06.700 exactly hiding
00:14:07.420 it.
00:14:07.860 So we've got
00:14:08.440 a president who
00:14:09.460 is not just 1.00
00:14:10.240 making some stupid 1.00
00:14:11.500 comments over an 1.00
00:14:12.260 ice cream cone, but
00:14:13.180 is actually saying
00:14:14.520 things that could
00:14:15.420 lead the United
00:14:16.060 States into a war.
00:14:17.360 There's nothing
00:14:17.820 we're going to do
00:14:18.460 about that in
00:14:19.020 terms of removing
00:14:19.660 him.
00:14:20.440 You're a United
00:14:21.020 States senator.
00:14:21.860 Can the Senate
00:14:22.900 come in and put
00:14:24.620 some guardrails
00:14:25.360 around what
00:14:26.200 President Biden
00:14:27.060 can do in terms
00:14:27.820 of foreign
00:14:28.140 policy?
00:14:29.260 Well, yes,
00:14:30.160 although we're
00:14:30.560 not going to do
00:14:31.180 so with Chuck
00:14:31.940 Schumer and Nancy
00:14:32.980 Pelosi controlling
00:14:33.920 the Congress.
00:14:34.760 And so I think
00:14:35.480 we need to get
00:14:36.000 to November.
00:14:36.820 I think we're
00:14:37.440 very likely to
00:14:38.180 win the House.
00:14:38.840 I think the odds
00:14:39.360 are quite good
00:14:39.960 we'll win the
00:14:40.440 Senate too.
00:14:41.580 And that will
00:14:42.260 provide some
00:14:43.260 meaningful checks,
00:14:44.380 but particularly
00:14:44.800 on foreign
00:14:45.260 policy.
00:14:45.760 The commander
00:14:46.280 in chief under
00:14:46.860 the Constitution
00:14:47.480 has wide
00:14:49.440 leeway.
00:14:50.540 And so there
00:14:51.540 are real risks
00:14:54.720 to having a
00:14:55.420 commander in chief
00:14:56.280 who's not up to
00:14:57.040 the task.
00:14:57.500 And I got to
00:14:58.180 tell you,
00:14:58.540 look, in 14
00:14:59.700 months, 15
00:15:00.640 months, Biden's
00:15:01.320 been in office.
00:15:02.860 I haven't spoken
00:15:03.900 to him once,
00:15:04.920 which is really
00:15:07.360 weird.
00:15:08.480 Like it is strange.
00:15:09.680 And by the way,
00:15:10.140 you might say,
00:15:10.660 all right, Cruz,
00:15:11.240 he's this right
00:15:11.980 winger.
00:15:12.340 So Biden's not
00:15:12.960 talking to Cruz.
00:15:14.840 That's true of
00:15:15.700 virtually every
00:15:16.320 Republican senator.
00:15:18.740 Lindsey Graham,
00:15:19.720 Lindsey and Joe
00:15:20.740 Biden have traveled
00:15:22.100 all over the world
00:15:23.000 together.
00:15:23.380 They've been buddies
00:15:24.060 for 20 years.
00:15:25.020 Lindsey told me a
00:15:25.660 couple of months
00:15:26.060 ago he hadn't
00:15:26.520 spoken to Biden
00:15:27.200 since Biden
00:15:27.960 became president.
00:15:28.920 Wow, that's
00:15:29.520 very strange.
00:15:30.580 Like, almost
00:15:32.120 without exception,
00:15:33.560 very few, if
00:15:34.500 any, Republican
00:15:35.160 senators are
00:15:35.800 speaking to him.
00:15:36.300 I think the
00:15:36.600 Democrats, he 0.83
00:15:37.560 speaks to the
00:15:38.160 Democrats a
00:15:38.820 little more, but
00:15:40.360 presumably they
00:15:41.180 think he's safe
00:15:42.360 speaking to the
00:15:43.100 Democrats, that
00:15:43.800 they're not going
00:15:44.320 to reveal what's
00:15:45.640 going on.
00:15:46.280 I can tell you,
00:15:48.300 one senator
00:15:49.600 described to me
00:15:50.580 how he'd spoken
00:15:51.180 to Biden, one
00:15:51.800 Republican said
00:15:52.400 he'd spoken to
00:15:52.840 Biden once in
00:15:53.640 the past year and
00:15:54.460 a half.
00:15:55.220 And he said he
00:15:55.880 went over to
00:15:56.300 the White
00:15:56.600 House for a
00:15:57.100 bill signing
00:15:57.620 and they
00:16:00.840 were, he
00:16:01.280 said it was
00:16:01.560 fairly, it
00:16:02.160 was not a
00:16:02.600 major bill, but
00:16:03.360 it was, you
00:16:03.780 know, they
00:16:03.920 were trying to
00:16:04.300 do a
00:16:04.520 bipartisan bill
00:16:05.220 signing.
00:16:05.640 He said he
00:16:05.840 struck up a
00:16:06.320 conversation with
00:16:07.000 Joe and Biden
00:16:08.820 said, hey, have
00:16:10.200 you been to the
00:16:10.840 cabinet room?
00:16:11.600 And the
00:16:11.960 senator said,
00:16:12.720 well, I
00:16:13.100 lied and said
00:16:13.660 no.
00:16:14.760 And so Biden
00:16:15.440 took him to the
00:16:15.980 cabinet room.
00:16:17.460 And Biden
00:16:18.880 begins telling
00:16:19.920 war stories from
00:16:21.700 like 30, 40
00:16:22.800 years ago and
00:16:23.560 just reminiscing and
00:16:24.660 telling stories.
00:16:25.900 And apparently the
00:16:26.980 White House staff is
00:16:27.740 freaking out and
00:16:28.920 they're coming in,
00:16:29.440 Mr. President, Mr.
00:16:30.220 President, you need
00:16:30.740 to leave, you need
00:16:31.220 to leave.
00:16:31.640 And Biden yells at
00:16:32.540 him and says, I'm
00:16:32.940 telling stories, 0.99
00:16:33.900 damn it. 0.99
00:16:35.160 And he spends like 1.00
00:16:36.180 45 minutes
00:16:37.460 reminiscing.
00:16:39.080 And it's like, you
00:16:39.660 know, your
00:16:39.940 grandfather's sitting
00:16:40.980 there reliving, you
00:16:42.840 know, the 1950s.
00:16:44.820 He, you know,
00:16:46.840 corn pop, I don't
00:16:47.720 know if corn pop
00:16:48.540 featured in those
00:16:50.120 stories or not.
00:16:50.980 But I got to
00:16:53.480 say, I don't
00:16:54.380 have any
00:16:55.060 firsthand
00:16:55.580 knowledge of
00:16:58.500 just how
00:16:59.320 diminished he
00:17:00.000 is.
00:17:00.460 I will say it's
00:17:01.440 particularly
00:17:02.160 strange that
00:17:03.960 Biden is not
00:17:04.860 talking with
00:17:05.460 Republican
00:17:05.900 senators, given
00:17:07.420 that we all
00:17:07.840 know him.
00:17:08.420 Look, it was
00:17:08.800 Joe Biden that
00:17:09.480 swore me into
00:17:10.320 office 10
00:17:11.220 years ago when
00:17:11.900 I became a
00:17:12.360 senator.
00:17:12.740 All of us, I
00:17:13.280 mean, he is a
00:17:14.420 creature of the
00:17:15.400 United States
00:17:15.980 Senate.
00:17:16.200 Most of us
00:17:18.360 have known him
00:17:18.840 a pretty long
00:17:19.360 time.
00:17:20.560 It is an odd
00:17:22.020 dynamic and it's
00:17:23.360 clear the White 0.91
00:17:24.340 House staff is
00:17:26.100 protecting him.
00:17:27.180 They're isolating
00:17:28.000 him.
00:17:29.080 They are afraid of
00:17:30.380 what he will say
00:17:31.420 and that's a
00:17:32.100 dangerous situation.
00:17:33.680 That is.
00:17:34.020 And that inside
00:17:34.880 peak is all the
00:17:36.360 more disturbing
00:17:36.960 because Joe Biden
00:17:38.080 has a reputation
00:17:38.920 as a back
00:17:39.860 slapper, as a 1.00
00:17:40.560 glad hander.
00:17:41.300 He's the guy who
00:17:42.280 pals around with
00:17:43.040 everybody.
00:17:44.040 So it does seem
00:17:44.940 to underscore what
00:17:45.960 we're seeing from
00:17:46.460 this trip.
00:17:47.260 Namely, you've
00:17:48.300 got the White
00:17:48.960 House apparatus
00:17:49.960 and then you've
00:17:50.560 got Joe who
00:17:51.260 occasionally will
00:17:52.340 just speak out of
00:17:53.080 turn and it
00:17:53.580 doesn't really seem
00:17:54.260 to matter.
00:17:54.980 So then right
00:17:55.860 now we've got
00:17:56.440 two major issues
00:17:57.480 in the United
00:17:58.600 States, both
00:17:59.300 involving treaties.
00:18:00.660 There's the Iran 1.00
00:18:01.480 deal that Obama
00:18:03.260 struck up, Trump
00:18:04.300 shot down, now
00:18:05.020 they're trying to
00:18:05.500 bring back, and
00:18:06.700 you've got NATO,
00:18:07.680 the North Atlantic
00:18:08.560 Treaty Organization.
00:18:10.700 We know that the
00:18:12.460 Senate has an
00:18:13.320 important role in
00:18:14.460 treaties, entering
00:18:15.540 into treaties,
00:18:16.280 potentially withdrawing
00:18:17.220 from treaties.
00:18:18.140 We know that the
00:18:19.560 executive has an
00:18:20.380 important role here
00:18:21.020 and sometimes the
00:18:21.800 executive ignores the
00:18:22.680 Senate.
00:18:23.140 So where does that
00:18:24.040 stand since both of
00:18:25.320 these things are right
00:18:27.140 at the forefront now,
00:18:28.200 especially amid the
00:18:29.220 war in Ukraine?
00:18:30.420 Well, this week we had,
00:18:32.100 I think, a very
00:18:32.980 interesting constitutional
00:18:34.280 debate in the Senate
00:18:35.420 Foreign Relations
00:18:36.100 Committee.
00:18:36.920 And this week the
00:18:38.040 Senate Foreign
00:18:38.540 Relations Committee
00:18:39.360 took up a bill from
00:18:42.320 Senator Tim Kaine,
00:18:43.280 Democrat from
00:18:44.000 Virginia, was
00:18:44.780 Hillary Clinton's
00:18:45.700 running mate.
00:18:47.020 And the bill from
00:18:48.860 Tim Kaine provides
00:18:50.620 that the United
00:18:51.660 States, that the
00:18:52.520 president cannot
00:18:53.620 withdraw from NATO
00:18:55.720 without an 0.62
00:18:57.760 affirmative two-thirds
00:18:58.840 vote from the U.S.
00:18:59.880 Senate.
00:19:01.100 And the issue is
00:19:02.700 actually, I think, a
00:19:03.440 very interesting
00:19:04.340 constitutional issue
00:19:05.360 because there is
00:19:07.040 real ambiguity in
00:19:09.160 the Constitution over
00:19:10.840 whether or not
00:19:12.120 withdrawing from a
00:19:13.940 treaty takes Senate
00:19:15.220 approval.
00:19:15.680 To enter into a
00:19:16.440 treaty, the
00:19:18.400 president has to sign
00:19:19.440 it and two-thirds of
00:19:20.240 the Senate has to
00:19:20.920 ratify it.
00:19:21.860 But over the 200-plus
00:19:23.460 years of our country's
00:19:24.480 history, multiple
00:19:25.480 presidents have
00:19:26.820 asserted the authority
00:19:27.840 to withdraw from
00:19:28.720 treaties and have
00:19:30.140 done so.
00:19:31.880 And it's interesting,
00:19:33.000 actually, when Jimmy
00:19:34.740 Carter was president,
00:19:35.880 he withdrew from a
00:19:38.360 treaty concerning
00:19:39.240 Taiwan and committing
00:19:41.860 us to the defense of
00:19:42.860 Taiwan.
00:19:43.420 He withdrew from that
00:19:44.260 treaty.
00:19:45.580 And Barry Goldwater
00:19:47.100 sued him.
00:19:49.000 He was in the Senate
00:19:49.920 from Arizona and he
00:19:51.040 sued him and the case
00:19:51.920 was Goldwater versus
00:19:52.880 Carter.
00:19:54.580 And Goldwater, it
00:19:56.720 went to the D.C.
00:19:57.680 Circuit, then it went
00:19:58.320 to the U.S.
00:19:58.900 Supreme Court.
00:19:59.480 And the U.S.
00:20:00.020 Supreme Court
00:20:00.740 concluded that it was
00:20:02.320 a political question.
00:20:03.380 In other words, the
00:20:03.880 Supreme Court said,
00:20:04.860 we're not going to
00:20:06.460 answer whether
00:20:09.500 pulling out of a
00:20:11.300 treaty takes Senate
00:20:12.340 approval or not.
00:20:13.420 That it is
00:20:14.300 non-justiciable, which
00:20:16.120 is a legal term.
00:20:17.960 Something that is
00:20:18.460 non-justiciable means
00:20:19.740 it's not susceptible
00:20:20.940 to being resolved by
00:20:22.400 the courts.
00:20:23.420 If you have a
00:20:23.900 conflict between two
00:20:25.100 branches of government,
00:20:26.500 particularly if it's the
00:20:27.540 executive and the
00:20:28.280 legislature, who but
00:20:30.000 the judiciary is going
00:20:31.200 to decide that
00:20:33.140 question?
00:20:33.440 Well, what the
00:20:34.320 court said is it's
00:20:35.360 what's called a
00:20:35.900 political question.
00:20:36.900 It's non-justiciable.
00:20:38.080 It's not susceptible
00:20:38.960 to the courts
00:20:40.440 resolving it, but
00:20:42.160 rather it should be
00:20:43.720 resolved by the
00:20:45.760 political back and
00:20:46.700 forth between Congress
00:20:47.760 and the president.
00:20:49.120 What the court said in
00:20:49.900 that decision is,
00:20:50.760 listen, if Congress
00:20:51.400 disagrees with the
00:20:53.180 president's decision,
00:20:54.120 they can pass
00:20:54.880 legislation expressing
00:20:56.020 their disagreement.
00:20:56.860 They can fight back.
00:20:57.820 There's a check and
00:20:58.480 balance.
00:20:59.860 And so in foreign
00:21:00.720 relations, it's
00:21:01.460 interesting.
00:21:02.220 So I, Tim Kaine
00:21:03.220 proposed this a
00:21:05.000 while back.
00:21:06.260 And as I looked
00:21:07.280 at it, I agreed
00:21:08.900 with it.
00:21:09.320 So I co-sponsored
00:21:10.440 Tim Kaine's proposal
00:21:12.680 and I co-sponsored
00:21:14.460 it because I support
00:21:15.480 NATO.
00:21:15.840 I think NATO is
00:21:16.940 the most successful
00:21:18.940 military alliance
00:21:20.080 post-World War II
00:21:21.100 that the world has
00:21:22.260 seen.
00:21:22.660 And I think
00:21:23.160 supporting NATO
00:21:24.700 is important.
00:21:25.420 The debate we had
00:21:28.920 in the Senate Foreign
00:21:29.560 Relations Committee,
00:21:30.620 Rand Paul argued
00:21:32.600 vociferously against
00:21:35.140 Tim Kaine's
00:21:36.300 legislation.
00:21:37.780 So Rand Paul was
00:21:38.740 arguing that the
00:21:40.060 president does have
00:21:41.120 the right unilaterally
00:21:42.460 to withdraw from
00:21:43.120 treaties.
00:21:43.820 Yes.
00:21:44.880 And Rand made
00:21:46.120 constitutional arguments.
00:21:47.340 He said, look,
00:21:48.660 number one, what Tim
00:21:49.920 is proposing is
00:21:50.800 legislation that
00:21:51.700 would be passed by
00:21:52.400 the Senate, passed
00:21:53.160 by the House, signed
00:21:54.000 by the president.
00:21:55.200 How can the House
00:21:56.180 have a role in
00:21:57.040 treaties under the
00:21:57.820 Constitution?
00:21:58.440 It's just the Senate
00:21:59.200 and this is the House
00:22:00.860 inserting itself into
00:22:02.100 the treaty power.
00:22:03.780 That's a real argument.
00:22:05.100 That's a serious and
00:22:06.260 substantive argument.
00:22:08.160 And he laid out
00:22:09.360 also the history
00:22:10.240 that going back to
00:22:11.300 our earliest
00:22:11.780 presidents,
00:22:13.100 including Washington,
00:22:14.340 they've asserted the
00:22:15.260 authority to withdraw
00:22:16.260 from treaties.
00:22:18.200 Trump withdrew from
00:22:19.440 a number of
00:22:19.920 treaties and did
00:22:21.320 so without
00:22:22.220 Senate approval.
00:22:24.000 Rand also argued
00:22:25.720 under the terms
00:22:26.640 of NATO,
00:22:28.220 it provides
00:22:29.180 that America
00:22:29.840 can withdraw,
00:22:30.920 which has largely
00:22:31.480 been understood
00:22:31.980 to be the president
00:22:32.700 can withdraw.
00:22:35.220 I thought it was
00:22:36.280 a good and
00:22:37.000 robust debate
00:22:37.980 and I'll tell you
00:22:38.740 what I said,
00:22:39.420 Michael.
00:22:39.740 I said, listen,
00:22:40.840 I think the
00:22:42.080 Constitution is
00:22:42.840 ambiguous on this
00:22:43.700 question.
00:22:44.660 I think there are
00:22:45.740 decent arguments
00:22:46.900 on both sides
00:22:47.880 and I agree with
00:22:48.600 the Supreme Court
00:22:49.340 that this is
00:22:49.920 naturally resolved
00:22:51.060 in the give and
00:22:52.400 take in the
00:22:52.960 political arm
00:22:53.840 wrestling
00:22:54.260 between Congress
00:22:56.080 and the White 0.84
00:22:56.800 House.
00:22:57.180 In this instance,
00:22:58.520 I'm voting for
00:22:59.820 the bill
00:23:00.160 because I
00:23:02.960 agree with
00:23:03.660 this substantive
00:23:04.460 area that we
00:23:05.140 should stay in
00:23:05.840 NATO and I want 0.90
00:23:06.460 to put a check
00:23:07.060 and balance
00:23:07.600 against pulling
00:23:08.780 out on NATO
00:23:09.440 and this is
00:23:10.460 Congress
00:23:11.820 pressing back
00:23:13.020 to underscore
00:23:16.020 the importance
00:23:16.800 of this
00:23:17.180 commitment.
00:23:17.680 But what's
00:23:17.980 interesting,
00:23:19.100 there were
00:23:19.920 several Democrats
00:23:20.680 on the committee
00:23:21.360 who suggested
00:23:22.060 why don't we
00:23:22.660 do it more
00:23:23.120 broadly and
00:23:24.720 pass a bill
00:23:25.720 that says a
00:23:26.360 president may
00:23:27.200 not pull out
00:23:27.820 of any treaty
00:23:28.620 without the
00:23:29.960 Senate approving
00:23:30.680 by two-thirds
00:23:31.440 and what I said
00:23:32.560 in committees,
00:23:33.380 I said, look,
00:23:33.800 I would oppose
00:23:34.420 that.
00:23:35.900 I'm not interested
00:23:36.980 in across the
00:23:39.100 board asserting
00:23:40.680 this congressional
00:23:41.540 authority.
00:23:42.340 There may well
00:23:43.180 be treaties
00:23:43.880 that this
00:23:46.700 president or a
00:23:47.560 subsequent president
00:23:48.460 may want to
00:23:49.300 withdraw from
00:23:50.000 and if
00:23:50.320 Congress
00:23:50.680 disagrees,
00:23:51.700 we can pass
00:23:52.500 something then
00:23:53.100 to press back
00:23:53.860 and in this
00:23:54.720 instance, I think
00:23:55.360 NATO is worthy 0.76
00:23:56.180 of it and it
00:23:57.480 ended up the
00:23:58.120 vote was
00:23:58.600 overwhelming.
00:23:59.680 It was all
00:24:00.160 the Democrats
00:24:00.860 and every
00:24:01.340 Republican voted
00:24:02.140 yes except for
00:24:03.140 Rand who voted
00:24:03.840 no.
00:24:04.180 So that was the
00:24:04.780 result of the
00:24:05.340 debate.
00:24:06.100 But I remember
00:24:07.360 I turned to
00:24:07.980 Mike Rounds,
00:24:08.760 the Republican
00:24:10.080 who sits next
00:24:10.660 to me.
00:24:10.900 I'm like that
00:24:11.360 was the best
00:24:12.520 constitutional debate
00:24:13.420 I think I've
00:24:13.840 ever heard in
00:24:15.040 the Senate Foreign
00:24:15.580 Relations Committee.
00:24:16.440 Well, this is
00:24:16.900 what I'm actually
00:24:17.780 so surprised
00:24:18.720 at, happily
00:24:19.760 surprised at
00:24:20.500 to hear is
00:24:21.460 the Senate
00:24:22.140 supposed to be
00:24:22.580 the greatest
00:24:22.940 deliberative body
00:24:23.700 in the world.
00:24:24.520 Usually there
00:24:25.340 is no
00:24:25.980 deliberation
00:24:26.640 whatsoever and
00:24:27.400 you see a
00:24:27.760 bunch of
00:24:28.080 party line
00:24:28.760 votes and
00:24:29.240 a lot of
00:24:29.580 talking points
00:24:30.280 and sometimes
00:24:30.880 people don't
00:24:31.400 even show up
00:24:32.020 and what
00:24:32.520 you've described
00:24:33.180 is actual
00:24:34.200 statecraft and
00:24:35.700 actual sort of
00:24:36.640 first principles
00:24:37.660 and constitutional
00:24:38.500 argument that
00:24:39.540 may have
00:24:40.160 persuaded people
00:24:40.940 at least to
00:24:41.380 some degree.
00:24:42.240 And I'll tell
00:24:42.600 you the
00:24:42.820 maddening thing,
00:24:44.540 it's not on
00:24:45.200 C-SPAN for
00:24:45.800 you to watch
00:24:46.360 because the
00:24:48.400 Senate Foreign
00:24:48.960 Relations Committee
00:24:49.860 – so most
00:24:51.140 committees meet
00:24:52.140 in hearing rooms
00:24:53.220 that are in
00:24:53.840 one of the
00:24:54.400 Senate office
00:24:54.920 buildings,
00:24:55.400 either in
00:24:55.840 Russell or
00:24:57.080 Dirksen or
00:24:57.600 Hart.
00:24:59.100 And the
00:24:59.780 Senate Foreign
00:25:00.220 Relations
00:25:00.640 Committee for
00:25:01.140 public hearings,
00:25:01.940 we do that
00:25:02.560 as well.
00:25:02.940 but for
00:25:05.240 business meetings
00:25:06.520 where we are
00:25:07.080 passing legislation
00:25:08.380 or sometimes
00:25:09.820 voting on –
00:25:10.660 when we're
00:25:10.960 voting on
00:25:11.340 nominations,
00:25:12.260 we meet in
00:25:13.500 the United
00:25:13.900 States Capitol
00:25:14.680 in an old
00:25:16.000 historic
00:25:17.480 meeting room
00:25:19.580 with, you
00:25:20.360 know,
00:25:21.000 pictures of,
00:25:21.880 you know,
00:25:23.380 famous secretaries
00:25:24.240 of state and,
00:25:25.200 you know,
00:25:25.980 gold adorning
00:25:26.820 the ceiling and
00:25:27.600 it's on the
00:25:27.940 first floor of
00:25:28.380 the Capitol.
00:25:28.900 It's kind of –
00:25:30.200 it's one floor
00:25:31.520 below the Senate
00:25:32.280 floor and
00:25:33.420 kind of off
00:25:33.900 to the side
00:25:34.580 and there
00:25:35.480 aren't TV
00:25:35.900 cameras in
00:25:36.400 that room.
00:25:37.400 So we conduct
00:25:38.540 business there
00:25:39.360 but unfortunately
00:25:40.180 this entire
00:25:40.880 debate was not
00:25:42.200 captured on TV
00:25:43.120 which I remember
00:25:43.820 thinking at the
00:25:44.380 end was really
00:25:45.020 a shame because
00:25:45.840 it was a
00:25:46.720 substantive
00:25:47.960 and consequential
00:25:49.300 debate.
00:25:49.880 That is a shame
00:25:50.360 though.
00:25:50.900 Perhaps that's
00:25:51.500 why.
00:25:52.000 Perhaps the
00:25:52.560 absence of TV
00:25:53.420 cameras actually
00:25:54.440 may have
00:25:54.820 encouraged more.
00:25:56.740 Well,
00:25:57.360 since we're
00:25:57.980 talking about
00:25:58.700 this sort of
00:25:59.540 minor issue
00:26:00.640 of the nature
00:26:01.540 of the
00:26:01.780 Constitution
00:26:02.360 and the
00:26:02.860 treaty power
00:26:03.400 of the
00:26:03.700 Senate,
00:26:04.160 I want to
00:26:04.680 get to a
00:26:05.240 much more
00:26:05.580 important issue
00:26:06.520 and global
00:26:07.660 conflict.
00:26:08.620 That would be
00:26:09.060 the slap heard
00:26:09.800 around the world
00:26:10.480 between Will
00:26:11.200 Smith and
00:26:12.000 Chris Rock.
00:26:12.720 I think this
00:26:13.100 is what the
00:26:13.480 people are
00:26:13.920 dying to hear
00:26:14.780 your opinion
00:26:15.280 about.
00:26:15.920 The internet
00:26:16.420 is divided.
00:26:17.580 I think
00:26:17.860 generally people
00:26:18.780 are on
00:26:19.120 Chris Rock's
00:26:19.800 side,
00:26:20.160 though there
00:26:20.520 are a handful
00:26:21.020 of people
00:26:21.780 who say
00:26:22.180 chivalry is
00:26:22.800 not dead.
00:26:23.640 Good on
00:26:24.040 Will Smith
00:26:24.520 for defending
00:26:25.160 his wife's
00:26:25.800 honor.
00:26:26.380 Senator,
00:26:27.400 what say
00:26:27.820 you?
00:26:28.520 Well,
00:26:28.700 look,
00:26:28.900 I generally
00:26:30.260 try to stay
00:26:30.960 out of fights
00:26:31.500 between Hollywood
00:26:32.520 celebrities,
00:26:33.600 and I will
00:26:34.220 confess I was
00:26:35.000 not watching
00:26:35.520 the Oscars.
00:26:36.300 I was one
00:26:36.840 of the
00:26:37.440 seven and a
00:26:38.820 half billion
00:26:39.360 people on
00:26:40.020 planet Earth
00:26:40.640 that were
00:26:41.020 not watching
00:26:41.700 the Oscars.
00:26:43.520 So afterwards,
00:26:44.680 when I started
00:26:45.560 seeing the
00:26:46.140 headlines,
00:26:46.700 I'm like,
00:26:47.160 what?
00:26:47.920 Like,
00:26:48.340 what's this
00:26:49.040 Will Smith
00:26:49.600 saying?
00:26:50.020 So I went
00:26:50.480 and did
00:26:50.900 what most
00:26:51.620 other people
00:26:52.080 did,
00:26:52.380 which is I
00:26:52.740 went and
00:26:53.280 Googled it
00:26:53.940 and watched
00:26:54.360 the video,
00:26:54.820 and that 1.00
00:26:55.960 damn thing 1.00
00:26:56.380 was surreal. 1.00
00:26:57.900 It was,
00:26:58.980 it looks
00:27:00.280 faked,
00:27:01.560 and I mean,
00:27:01.820 the way Will
00:27:02.340 Smith walks
00:27:03.020 up,
00:27:03.300 it looks
00:27:03.760 like it's
00:27:04.260 a staged
00:27:04.980 gig.
00:27:06.740 And then
00:27:07.420 apparently it's
00:27:08.060 not.
00:27:08.560 Apparently he
00:27:09.180 was just
00:27:09.660 really,
00:27:10.560 really pissed.
00:27:11.740 And I'm
00:27:12.220 reminded of
00:27:13.080 that there's
00:27:13.900 a guy I
00:27:14.600 know in
00:27:15.320 Washington who
00:27:16.000 was part of
00:27:16.560 Jeb Bush's
00:27:17.140 campaign for
00:27:18.660 president in
00:27:19.180 2016.
00:27:20.440 He was a
00:27:20.840 senior guy on
00:27:21.380 the campaign,
00:27:21.840 and we were
00:27:22.420 at a friend's
00:27:23.100 wedding,
00:27:23.360 and he said,
00:27:23.960 you know,
00:27:24.820 there's a
00:27:25.960 way Jeb
00:27:26.560 Bush could
00:27:27.040 have won.
00:27:28.380 And I
00:27:28.940 said,
00:27:30.140 look,
00:27:30.620 with all
00:27:31.180 respect,
00:27:31.720 I'm not
00:27:32.240 convinced that's
00:27:32.880 right.
00:27:33.240 This was
00:27:33.880 not a cycle
00:27:34.700 in which
00:27:35.500 anyone named
00:27:36.960 Bush was
00:27:37.420 going to
00:27:37.640 win.
00:27:37.860 He said,
00:27:38.140 no,
00:27:38.300 I've got
00:27:38.580 a theory.
00:27:39.020 I said,
00:27:39.220 okay,
00:27:39.400 let me
00:27:39.620 hear it.
00:27:41.020 And he
00:27:41.340 said,
00:27:41.580 my theory
00:27:42.200 was if
00:27:42.960 at the
00:27:43.440 debate
00:27:43.900 where
00:27:44.940 Donald
00:27:45.380 Trump
00:27:45.880 insulted
00:27:46.560 Columba,
00:27:47.280 Jeb's
00:27:47.540 wife,
00:27:48.460 if Jeb
00:27:49.400 had just
00:27:49.860 turned around
00:27:50.740 and punched 0.98
00:27:51.600 him in 0.97
00:27:52.200 the face 0.61
00:27:52.860 and decked
00:27:54.080 him,
00:27:54.240 he might
00:27:55.700 have won.
00:27:56.100 And I
00:27:56.320 was like, 0.93
00:27:57.280 holy crap, 0.96
00:27:57.960 I don't 0.98
00:27:58.420 know.
00:27:58.800 That would
00:27:59.160 have been
00:27:59.620 a unique
00:28:01.760 moment on
00:28:02.340 a presidential
00:28:02.900 debate to
00:28:03.700 see one
00:28:04.620 candidate deck
00:28:05.360 the other.
00:28:06.020 And I don't
00:28:06.500 know what
00:28:06.840 would have
00:28:07.060 happened then.
00:28:08.380 You know,
00:28:08.840 look,
00:28:09.600 everyone can
00:28:10.140 understand Will
00:28:10.880 Smith when
00:28:11.580 someone's
00:28:12.600 making fun of
00:28:13.720 your wife, 0.99
00:28:14.720 getting pissed
00:28:15.340 and defending her.
00:28:16.100 That being said,
00:28:17.200 you don't got a
00:28:17.680 right to punch
00:28:18.200 a comedian.
00:28:18.600 like comedians
00:28:19.860 are,
00:28:20.400 you know,
00:28:21.880 paid to be 1.00
00:28:22.460 jerks. 1.00
00:28:22.760 And if you
00:28:24.200 are showing
00:28:25.160 up where
00:28:25.720 a comedian's
00:28:26.300 performing,
00:28:27.760 you shouldn't
00:28:28.740 be surprised
00:28:29.360 if they tell
00:28:29.860 some jokes
00:28:30.300 at your
00:28:30.560 expense.
00:28:31.460 Well,
00:28:31.600 especially,
00:28:32.140 it's not as
00:28:32.540 though Will
00:28:32.900 Smith's wife
00:28:33.560 is,
00:28:33.900 you know,
00:28:34.380 Donna Reed
00:28:34.940 keeping by
00:28:35.480 the house.
00:28:36.340 She is a
00:28:36.740 public figure
00:28:37.260 herself.
00:28:37.720 She's an 0.95
00:28:37.980 actress.
00:28:38.360 She's a
00:28:38.640 performer.
00:28:39.440 But the
00:28:40.280 only reason
00:28:40.980 I really
00:28:42.400 was even
00:28:42.800 thinking about 1.00
00:28:43.420 this stupid 1.00
00:28:44.140 incident that 1.00
00:28:44.660 we're still
00:28:45.060 talking about
00:28:45.600 now,
00:28:46.000 four or
00:28:46.400 five days
00:28:46.840 later,
00:28:47.420 is it does
00:28:48.120 raise some
00:28:48.760 questions about
00:28:50.020 speech.
00:28:50.620 You know,
00:28:50.860 there are
00:28:51.640 certain categories
00:28:52.320 of speech
00:28:52.760 that are not
00:28:53.300 protected.
00:28:53.960 I'm thinking
00:28:54.260 of obscenity.
00:28:55.420 I'm thinking
00:28:55.720 of fraud,
00:28:56.540 direct threats,
00:28:57.660 and fighting
00:28:58.820 words.
00:28:59.600 Fighting words.
00:29:00.240 And so,
00:29:00.940 but then on the
00:29:02.120 other hand,
00:29:02.780 certain lots
00:29:04.220 of speech is
00:29:04.900 very protected
00:29:05.760 in the United
00:29:06.200 States.
00:29:06.640 And it would
00:29:07.080 seem that
00:29:07.460 comedians in
00:29:08.480 particular at
00:29:09.640 public events
00:29:10.480 that have a
00:29:11.020 kind of roast
00:29:12.020 vibe to them,
00:29:13.280 if they're not
00:29:14.060 protected,
00:29:14.880 then no
00:29:15.480 speech is
00:29:15.960 protected in
00:29:16.500 America.
00:29:16.780 So I
00:29:16.960 wondered if
00:29:17.420 there was
00:29:17.620 any kind
00:29:17.860 of legal
00:29:18.360 argument there.
00:29:19.420 Yeah.
00:29:19.840 So,
00:29:20.720 under the
00:29:21.340 law,
00:29:22.580 Will Smith
00:29:25.960 could likely
00:29:27.060 be prosecuted
00:29:28.100 for battery,
00:29:30.040 and Chris
00:29:31.820 Rock would
00:29:32.420 likely have a
00:29:33.220 cause of action
00:29:33.980 against Will
00:29:34.620 Smith for the
00:29:35.220 same.
00:29:36.360 I don't know
00:29:37.060 California law
00:29:37.960 in particular,
00:29:38.720 but generally
00:29:39.280 speaking under
00:29:39.980 tort law and
00:29:40.880 criminal law,
00:29:41.480 that would be
00:29:41.820 the case under
00:29:42.460 typical application.
00:29:44.060 But there
00:29:46.180 is a caveat,
00:29:47.420 which is to
00:29:48.300 convict someone
00:29:49.340 or to win a
00:29:50.740 judgment,
00:29:52.100 you have to
00:29:53.500 convince a jury.
00:29:54.880 And it's not
00:29:55.920 clear to me in
00:29:56.680 this case you
00:29:57.360 could convince a
00:29:58.120 jury that there
00:29:59.620 are some jurors
00:30:00.740 who would be
00:30:01.040 like, you know, 0.97
00:30:01.740 damn straight. 0.98
00:30:02.640 Go get him. 0.99
00:30:03.180 You know, you
00:30:03.580 make fun of his
00:30:04.280 wife, go get 1.00
00:30:05.360 him.
00:30:06.080 And look, in a
00:30:07.580 civil case at
00:30:08.440 least, you'd have
00:30:09.140 to demonstrate
00:30:09.680 some damages.
00:30:11.140 I did think it
00:30:11.880 was interesting
00:30:12.380 that Will
00:30:12.800 Smith, I
00:30:13.200 actually like
00:30:13.620 both Will
00:30:14.140 Smith and
00:30:14.480 Chris Rock,
00:30:15.400 but I thought
00:30:15.720 it was
00:30:15.860 interesting Will
00:30:16.460 Smith, who
00:30:17.180 played Muhammad
00:30:17.820 Ali, gets 0.88
00:30:19.400 up and slaps
00:30:20.120 him, which 0.72
00:30:20.540 is sort of a
00:30:21.200 weird, like,
00:30:22.100 you know, it'd
00:30:22.680 be one thing if 0.97
00:30:23.240 he punched him,
00:30:23.860 the slap was
00:30:24.520 weird.
00:30:25.200 It was like,
00:30:26.040 wow, I don't
00:30:26.460 think I've ever
00:30:26.900 seen Muhammad
00:30:27.460 Ali slap
00:30:28.120 someone.
00:30:28.280 No, he
00:30:28.580 floated like a
00:30:29.180 butterfly.
00:30:30.340 In actual
00:30:31.520 litigation, it
00:30:33.060 would be
00:30:33.840 potentially
00:30:34.880 difficult to
00:30:36.500 prove damages.
00:30:38.000 It's not
00:30:38.600 clear to me a
00:30:39.220 jury would
00:30:39.740 convict or
00:30:40.400 a jury
00:30:40.800 would enter
00:30:41.560 a judgment.
00:30:43.040 And it
00:30:43.600 reminds me of
00:30:44.440 the old
00:30:45.180 joke of
00:30:46.280 the Texas
00:30:48.980 gravestone
00:30:50.040 that says
00:30:51.720 he died
00:30:52.840 at age
00:30:53.940 101,
00:30:55.960 shot by
00:30:57.320 a jealous
00:30:57.780 husband.
00:31:01.760 You know,
00:31:02.800 there,
00:31:03.400 my guess is,
00:31:05.100 look, from
00:31:05.400 all the public
00:31:05.920 reporting,
00:31:06.480 Chris Rock is
00:31:07.180 not going to
00:31:07.820 seek to
00:31:08.420 press charges
00:31:09.080 and so
00:31:09.620 nothing's
00:31:09.980 going to
00:31:10.180 happen legally
00:31:10.900 as a
00:31:11.280 consequence
00:31:11.660 of it.
00:31:14.380 You know,
00:31:15.140 I, by
00:31:15.600 the way,
00:31:15.980 I will
00:31:16.280 say, in
00:31:18.120 response to
00:31:18.980 this, every 0.94
00:31:20.780 lefty troll on 0.97
00:31:22.020 earth has 0.96
00:31:22.640 taken great joy
00:31:24.140 in coming after
00:31:25.080 me on this
00:31:25.820 and saying,
00:31:26.300 well, Will
00:31:27.420 Smith did
00:31:28.000 what Cruz
00:31:28.560 never would,
00:31:29.440 which is defend
00:31:30.400 his wife,
00:31:30.960 Heidi.
00:31:31.240 Now, look,
00:31:31.660 to be clear,
00:31:32.240 when Trump
00:31:32.600 insulted Heidi,
00:31:34.700 I went after 0.70
00:31:35.660 Trump with
00:31:36.500 both barrels,
00:31:38.640 which the
00:31:39.800 lefties
00:31:40.200 conveniently
00:31:40.740 forget,
00:31:42.120 they just
00:31:43.400 thought that
00:31:43.940 once he was
00:31:44.420 elected president,
00:31:45.240 I should
00:31:46.120 take my
00:31:46.980 marbles and
00:31:47.480 go home and
00:31:47.960 refuse to do
00:31:48.620 the job I
00:31:49.140 was elected
00:31:49.560 to, and
00:31:50.160 at the end
00:31:51.400 of the day,
00:31:52.480 I got a job.
00:31:53.380 I suspect
00:31:53.880 that's what the
00:31:54.980 American left
00:31:55.580 would have
00:31:56.040 liked you to
00:31:56.580 do.
00:31:57.060 Indeed.
00:31:57.640 Okay, good,
00:31:58.260 now, let's
00:31:58.880 get rid of that
00:31:59.720 Cruz character,
00:32:00.680 get him out of
00:32:01.400 here.
00:32:02.120 No, of
00:32:02.780 course, and
00:32:03.420 this is
00:32:04.180 something that
00:32:04.900 you notice
00:32:05.420 in politics
00:32:06.420 that everyone
00:32:06.900 notices is
00:32:07.540 when you're
00:32:08.900 getting a
00:32:09.660 deluge of
00:32:10.300 attacks,
00:32:11.320 usually it
00:32:12.000 means that
00:32:12.360 your opponents
00:32:12.840 are afraid
00:32:14.180 of you,
00:32:14.760 and this
00:32:15.440 actually ties
00:32:15.960 in pretty
00:32:16.320 well, this
00:32:17.020 and the
00:32:17.280 question of
00:32:17.760 free speech
00:32:18.360 ties in
00:32:18.960 pretty well
00:32:19.340 to the
00:32:19.820 craziest,
00:32:22.040 most important
00:32:22.860 non-traversy
00:32:23.940 going on
00:32:24.400 today,
00:32:24.720 namely,
00:32:25.460 that according
00:32:25.980 to the
00:32:26.340 left,
00:32:26.640 you are not
00:32:27.160 allowed to
00:32:27.660 say the
00:32:28.040 word gay
00:32:28.720 in the
00:32:29.480 state of
00:32:30.040 Florida
00:32:30.480 because of
00:32:31.520 a bill
00:32:31.800 called the
00:32:32.140 Parental Rights 0.57
00:32:32.800 and Education
00:32:33.320 Bill.
00:32:33.800 There's
00:32:34.020 similar
00:32:34.440 legislation
00:32:35.720 pending in
00:32:36.280 other states,
00:32:36.820 obviously it's
00:32:37.180 a big
00:32:37.420 political
00:32:37.780 winner,
00:32:38.640 but this
00:32:39.140 has been
00:32:39.580 the major
00:32:40.500 news story
00:32:41.360 based,
00:32:42.600 as far as I
00:32:43.000 can tell,
00:32:43.280 on a
00:32:43.460 complete
00:32:43.700 fabrication.
00:32:44.920 Yeah,
00:32:45.520 it really
00:32:46.840 is bizarre,
00:32:48.000 so Florida
00:32:48.720 passed this
00:32:49.420 bill saying
00:32:51.260 you cannot
00:32:52.400 discuss
00:32:53.100 sexuality
00:32:53.880 in schools
00:32:55.760 with children
00:32:57.240 between
00:32:58.540 kindergarten
00:32:59.400 and third
00:33:00.520 grade.
00:33:01.980 And frankly,
00:33:02.960 I would
00:33:03.460 call it the
00:33:04.060 don't say
00:33:04.480 gay law,
00:33:05.400 I'd call it
00:33:05.840 the don't
00:33:06.200 say sex
00:33:06.860 law,
00:33:07.260 and you
00:33:07.500 know what,
00:33:07.840 with five-year-olds,
00:33:09.400 I'm really
00:33:09.980 okay with their
00:33:11.000 teachers not
00:33:11.660 talking about
00:33:12.300 sex.
00:33:12.940 I'd like them
00:33:13.700 not to say 0.54
00:33:14.160 gay, 0.88
00:33:14.520 I'd like them 0.99
00:33:14.900 not to say
00:33:15.380 straight,
00:33:16.080 I'd like them
00:33:16.700 not to say
00:33:17.360 anything involving
00:33:18.500 sex, 0.67
00:33:19.000 play with 0.99
00:33:19.320 blocks with 1.00
00:33:20.240 the damn 1.00
00:33:20.600 kids, 1.00
00:33:21.200 and teach
00:33:21.940 them arithmetic,
00:33:22.840 like,
00:33:22.980 like,
00:33:23.560 ABCs,
00:33:24.500 right?
00:33:25.080 Like,
00:33:26.240 you know,
00:33:27.900 it is,
00:33:29.060 I actually
00:33:30.480 think it's
00:33:31.000 revealing,
00:33:31.440 and by the
00:33:31.820 way,
00:33:31.980 the Florida
00:33:32.360 law,
00:33:33.320 in fourth
00:33:34.000 grade,
00:33:35.220 apparently it's
00:33:36.120 Katie bar the
00:33:36.820 door,
00:33:37.200 you can whip
00:33:37.760 out,
00:33:38.120 you know,
00:33:38.920 S&M,
00:33:39.920 and like,
00:33:40.460 all sorts of
00:33:41.260 crazy,
00:33:41.900 like, 0.88
00:33:42.180 all the kink
00:33:42.920 you want,
00:33:43.300 all the obscenity,
00:33:43.940 fourth grade is
00:33:44.620 fine,
00:33:45.820 but like,
00:33:47.260 and to see
00:33:48.640 the modern
00:33:49.860 left losing
00:33:51.200 their mind on
00:33:51.980 this is
00:33:53.380 bizarre,
00:33:54.420 like,
00:33:54.960 Disney is
00:33:55.640 having paroxysms
00:33:57.100 of fits,
00:33:58.460 because,
00:33:59.120 you know what,
00:33:59.700 I don't really
00:34:00.720 want Snow White,
00:34:03.400 like,
00:34:03.900 like,
00:34:04.860 discussing sex
00:34:06.180 either,
00:34:06.800 like,
00:34:07.060 like,
00:34:07.240 when you take
00:34:07.860 your little
00:34:08.200 kid to a
00:34:09.400 Disney film,
00:34:10.100 and,
00:34:10.340 and what's
00:34:11.200 fascinating,
00:34:12.560 I actually think
00:34:14.300 the self-described
00:34:15.300 leftist intelligentsia
00:34:16.720 may be
00:34:18.540 really out of
00:34:20.220 step with
00:34:21.380 their own base,
00:34:22.360 particularly the
00:34:22.900 African-American
00:34:23.520 community,
00:34:24.100 is not very
00:34:25.900 keen on
00:34:27.240 their kids
00:34:27.800 being taught
00:34:28.440 about sex
00:34:29.040 when they're
00:34:29.360 five,
00:34:30.300 and there's
00:34:30.940 at least
00:34:31.260 one poll
00:34:31.980 that was
00:34:32.340 done in
00:34:32.920 Florida
00:34:33.220 of Democrats
00:34:34.920 that showed
00:34:37.360 a significant
00:34:38.220 majority of
00:34:39.180 Democrats in
00:34:40.120 Florida
00:34:40.440 support the
00:34:41.380 law.
00:34:41.620 The numbers
00:34:42.020 that I saw
00:34:42.680 were 52%
00:34:44.260 to 36%
00:34:45.820 of Florida
00:34:46.900 Democrats
00:34:47.980 support the
00:34:48.940 law,
00:34:49.420 and so all
00:34:50.080 of the
00:34:50.480 Disney woke
00:34:51.640 activists
00:34:52.560 are not
00:34:54.300 just out of
00:34:54.940 step with
00:34:55.540 Republicans
00:34:56.200 and independents,
00:34:57.760 but according
00:34:58.300 to this poll,
00:34:59.080 more than half
00:34:59.660 the Democrats
00:35:00.200 in Florida
00:35:00.820 are like,
00:35:01.800 could you
00:35:02.180 send my
00:35:02.820 little kid
00:35:03.340 to school
00:35:03.940 and just
00:35:04.500 avoid the
00:35:05.060 whole sex
00:35:05.500 topic?
00:35:06.000 Like,
00:35:06.200 just,
00:35:06.820 there are
00:35:07.080 plenty of
00:35:07.460 things in
00:35:07.840 life to
00:35:08.200 talk about.
00:35:09.080 I don't
00:35:09.400 need the
00:35:10.360 kindergarten
00:35:10.760 teacher getting
00:35:11.380 into this
00:35:11.800 stuff.
00:35:12.340 Right,
00:35:12.480 well,
00:35:12.620 I think
00:35:12.880 this is why
00:35:13.620 you're going
00:35:14.220 to see a
00:35:14.620 lot more
00:35:14.880 of these
00:35:15.140 bills around
00:35:15.640 the country.
00:35:16.160 You really
00:35:16.500 saw it
00:35:16.880 beginning
00:35:17.200 with Glenn
00:35:18.120 Youngkin
00:35:18.520 running on
00:35:18.960 this issue
00:35:19.260 of education,
00:35:20.280 keeping radical
00:35:21.000 racial and
00:35:21.600 sexual ideologies
00:35:22.340 out of the
00:35:22.700 classroom.
00:35:23.360 Now you're
00:35:23.660 seeing it
00:35:23.960 in Florida.
00:35:24.940 So it's a
00:35:25.540 total political
00:35:26.220 winner for
00:35:27.140 the people
00:35:27.500 who don't
00:35:27.960 want sex 0.94
00:35:28.500 being taught 0.72
00:35:29.040 in kindergarten.
00:35:30.020 But then you
00:35:30.520 have the
00:35:31.260 high-minded
00:35:32.220 political
00:35:32.680 philosophy
00:35:33.320 of Hollywood
00:35:34.220 elites.
00:35:34.660 I'm thinking
00:35:35.080 of Ron
00:35:35.960 Perlman,
00:35:37.040 who played
00:35:37.840 Hellboy,
00:35:38.660 among other
00:35:39.160 movies.
00:35:39.780 I seem to
00:35:40.240 recall you
00:35:40.600 got into
00:35:40.920 some interaction
00:35:41.620 with him
00:35:42.160 some years
00:35:43.460 ago.
00:35:44.240 Your old
00:35:44.780 enemy,
00:35:45.160 Hellboy,
00:35:46.060 he said
00:35:47.180 this is a
00:35:47.620 First Amendment
00:35:48.220 issue.
00:35:48.720 In a
00:35:49.340 mostly
00:35:49.740 incoherent
00:35:50.620 Twitter rant,
00:35:51.780 he said
00:35:52.340 that the
00:35:53.240 bill was
00:35:53.680 a violation
00:35:54.360 of the
00:35:54.760 First Amendment
00:35:55.460 because of
00:35:57.500 the words
00:35:57.900 don't say,
00:35:58.660 which are
00:35:58.840 not in the
00:35:59.180 bill,
00:35:59.420 by the way.
00:35:59.960 So do you
00:36:00.560 have any
00:36:00.920 First Amendment
00:36:01.700 take on
00:36:02.860 his argument?
00:36:04.060 Yeah,
00:36:04.240 Hellboy has
00:36:05.940 been particularly
00:36:06.840 active lately.
00:36:07.740 He also,
00:36:08.240 this last week,
00:36:09.020 recorded a
00:36:09.640 different Twitter
00:36:10.800 rant
00:36:11.320 screaming, 0.99
00:36:13.020 F you at 0.99
00:36:13.600 me.
00:36:13.880 So he was
00:36:14.860 particularly
00:36:15.300 upset that
00:36:15.980 I was
00:36:16.540 questioning
00:36:17.320 Judge
00:36:17.880 Ketanji
00:36:18.340 Brown 0.70
00:36:18.620 Jackson,
00:36:19.660 and so he
00:36:20.300 just screamed
00:36:21.040 expletives at
00:36:21.780 me.
00:36:22.060 As one does.
00:36:22.720 Which is sort
00:36:23.320 of an odd
00:36:23.760 thing.
00:36:24.180 I was
00:36:24.720 disappointed
00:36:25.500 that he
00:36:25.820 didn't have
00:36:26.120 the red
00:36:26.400 face paint
00:36:26.960 and the
00:36:27.240 horns
00:36:27.520 because it
00:36:27.880 would have
00:36:28.060 been more
00:36:28.360 fun,
00:36:28.720 like actually
00:36:29.400 having
00:36:29.800 Hellboy
00:36:30.200 curse me
00:36:30.680 out.
00:36:32.820 Look,
00:36:34.440 the people
00:36:35.360 virtue signaling,
00:36:36.660 and I guess,
00:36:37.220 as I said,
00:36:37.940 I didn't watch
00:36:38.380 the Oscars,
00:36:39.020 but as I
00:36:39.440 understand it,
00:36:40.060 there was
00:36:40.320 some point
00:36:40.880 where the
00:36:42.060 hosts or
00:36:42.680 everyone there
00:36:43.280 began chanting 0.99
00:36:44.420 gay, 1.00
00:36:45.140 gay, 0.74
00:36:45.540 gay to 0.99
00:36:46.600 show that 0.98
00:36:47.120 they were
00:36:47.500 apparently
00:36:47.860 not in
00:36:48.280 kindergarten
00:36:48.700 in Florida,
00:36:49.420 which is
00:36:50.820 a little
00:36:51.740 odd,
00:36:52.300 okay,
00:36:52.800 like it.
00:36:53.300 They could
00:36:53.420 have had
00:36:53.680 me fooled.
00:36:54.300 Yeah.
00:36:57.380 There is
00:36:58.100 no First
00:36:58.660 Amendment
00:36:58.980 right
00:36:59.480 implicated
00:37:02.100 here because
00:37:02.840 if you
00:37:03.400 are a
00:37:03.700 teacher at
00:37:04.180 a school,
00:37:04.880 you are
00:37:05.300 required to
00:37:06.080 teach the
00:37:06.640 curriculum
00:37:07.220 in a public
00:37:08.680 school that
00:37:09.140 the state
00:37:09.540 has decided
00:37:10.140 upon.
00:37:10.740 And if
00:37:11.520 you want to
00:37:12.120 teach something
00:37:12.780 else,
00:37:13.280 you're welcome
00:37:15.000 to go stand
00:37:16.160 at a mall
00:37:16.580 and talk
00:37:17.300 about it.
00:37:17.540 You're welcome
00:37:17.840 to teach
00:37:18.160 your own
00:37:18.460 kids that.
00:37:19.260 You're welcome
00:37:19.760 to go to
00:37:20.120 church and
00:37:20.620 teach people
00:37:21.100 there that.
00:37:21.740 You can go
00:37:22.000 anywhere else
00:37:22.460 you want,
00:37:23.060 but if your
00:37:23.460 job involves
00:37:25.420 teaching a
00:37:26.100 curriculum set
00:37:26.820 by the state,
00:37:27.480 then the state
00:37:27.900 has a right
00:37:28.400 to set a
00:37:28.900 curriculum.
00:37:30.120 And it is
00:37:30.720 the essence
00:37:32.300 of reasonableness,
00:37:33.480 I think,
00:37:33.880 to say that
00:37:35.120 with little,
00:37:36.000 little kids,
00:37:37.140 they shouldn't
00:37:38.260 be getting
00:37:38.640 into questions
00:37:39.340 of sexuality,
00:37:40.140 that five-year-olds
00:37:41.380 don't need
00:37:42.900 their school
00:37:45.220 teachers
00:37:45.940 proselytizing
00:37:48.160 their views
00:37:50.180 on sex.
00:37:51.020 That's not
00:37:51.540 the job
00:37:52.100 of a teacher.
00:37:52.700 I think
00:37:54.940 most Americans
00:37:55.760 find that a
00:37:56.400 very common
00:37:56.960 sense position.
00:37:57.800 As I said,
00:37:58.360 this law
00:37:58.840 says fourth
00:37:59.460 grade is
00:38:00.640 fine.
00:38:01.300 So,
00:38:01.520 I mean,
00:38:01.680 it's not
00:38:02.040 like,
00:38:03.000 you know,
00:38:03.580 I actually
00:38:04.180 would prefer
00:38:04.900 you not
00:38:05.320 teach your
00:38:05.780 fourth graders
00:38:06.320 about it
00:38:06.740 either,
00:38:07.180 but kindergartners,
00:38:09.580 this ought to
00:38:10.140 be a pretty
00:38:10.560 easy proposition.
00:38:12.000 Of course.
00:38:12.560 You see it
00:38:13.480 when we're
00:38:14.060 talking about
00:38:14.360 the First
00:38:14.620 Amendment,
00:38:15.220 and I've
00:38:15.660 even heard
00:38:16.060 some people
00:38:16.480 bring up
00:38:16.840 the question
00:38:17.300 of academic
00:38:18.060 freedom,
00:38:18.520 as though a
00:38:19.420 second-grade
00:38:19.940 classroom
00:38:20.560 were some
00:38:21.580 free marketplace
00:38:22.640 of ideas
00:38:23.440 where new
00:38:24.120 scholarly and
00:38:25.160 scientific discoveries
00:38:26.180 are occurring.
00:38:26.820 No,
00:38:27.040 of course not.
00:38:27.540 As you say,
00:38:28.740 if you are a
00:38:29.720 teacher,
00:38:30.020 you have to
00:38:30.520 follow the
00:38:31.020 curriculum.
00:38:31.480 The curriculum
00:38:31.860 is set by
00:38:32.920 the state.
00:38:33.720 The parents
00:38:34.360 have some
00:38:34.960 rights in
00:38:35.440 their kids'
00:38:35.900 education.
00:38:36.560 They certainly
00:38:36.940 have rights
00:38:37.380 as citizens,
00:38:37.980 and they can
00:38:38.340 vote.
00:38:39.280 And by the
00:38:40.340 way,
00:38:40.660 look,
00:38:41.660 nobody would
00:38:42.680 think it was
00:38:43.280 appropriate to
00:38:44.340 say,
00:38:44.800 for example,
00:38:45.820 in colleges
00:38:46.620 and universities,
00:38:47.740 you may not
00:38:48.260 discuss sex.
00:38:49.780 Like,
00:38:50.060 that would be
00:38:50.840 bizarre.
00:38:53.100 You know,
00:38:53.380 I will tell you
00:38:54.200 when I was at
00:38:54.700 Princeton,
00:38:55.080 there was a
00:38:55.420 popular
00:38:55.780 t-shirt that
00:38:57.780 said, 0.99
00:38:58.760 sex kills. 0.99
00:39:00.060 And on the 0.99
00:39:00.560 back it said,
00:39:01.360 come to
00:39:02.220 Princeton,
00:39:02.680 live forever.
00:39:05.620 Look,
00:39:06.140 that would not
00:39:06.900 be reasonable.
00:39:08.080 Obviously,
00:39:08.680 human sexuality
00:39:09.460 is part of
00:39:10.640 life,
00:39:11.080 it's part of
00:39:11.520 literature,
00:39:12.000 it's part of
00:39:12.380 history.
00:39:14.180 No one would
00:39:15.000 say it's
00:39:15.400 reasonable for
00:39:16.180 colleges to
00:39:17.480 limit the
00:39:18.360 discussions of
00:39:18.960 that because
00:39:19.460 presumably,
00:39:20.840 the students
00:39:21.720 are mature
00:39:22.300 enough to
00:39:22.800 engage in
00:39:23.380 that.
00:39:24.980 This may
00:39:25.700 seem like a
00:39:26.280 radical proposition,
00:39:27.060 but there's a
00:39:27.780 difference between
00:39:28.260 college kids
00:39:29.100 and five-year-olds.
00:39:30.880 There's even a
00:39:31.460 difference between
00:39:31.880 high school kids.
00:39:33.620 I think most
00:39:34.100 people would say
00:39:34.820 even in high
00:39:35.420 school,
00:39:35.960 you wouldn't
00:39:36.660 want to have
00:39:37.180 that kind of
00:39:37.720 restriction,
00:39:38.160 that by high
00:39:38.960 school,
00:39:39.760 you know,
00:39:39.940 anyone who's
00:39:40.320 watched Fast
00:39:40.900 Times at
00:39:41.320 Ridgemont High
00:39:41.940 knows there's
00:39:42.520 very little
00:39:42.900 else that
00:39:43.340 teenage boys
00:39:43.860 are thinking
00:39:44.260 about.
00:39:46.100 Now,
00:39:46.700 I don't know
00:39:47.220 that we need
00:39:47.700 our schools
00:39:48.220 necessarily
00:39:48.860 proselytizing
00:39:49.840 on those
00:39:50.260 topics even
00:39:50.920 at that
00:39:51.260 age,
00:39:51.720 but the
00:39:53.820 judgment of
00:39:54.500 the Florida
00:39:54.820 legislature here
00:39:55.880 that there's
00:39:57.200 some things
00:39:57.760 that are
00:39:58.020 inappropriate for
00:39:58.880 little kids
00:39:59.440 to discuss,
00:40:00.600 I think is a
00:40:01.880 judgment that
00:40:02.620 all of us,
00:40:04.600 look,
00:40:04.920 at home with
00:40:05.720 our girls,
00:40:06.820 I try very,
00:40:08.280 very hard not
00:40:08.900 to curse.
00:40:09.360 when I'm
00:40:12.520 out with
00:40:12.940 adults,
00:40:13.360 when you
00:40:13.780 and I
00:40:14.020 are having
00:40:14.300 a scotch
00:40:14.820 and a
00:40:15.060 cigar,
00:40:15.780 you may
00:40:16.800 have heard
00:40:17.220 me use
00:40:19.120 some ripe
00:40:20.180 language.
00:40:20.920 Three times
00:40:21.480 at once.
00:40:21.780 There is
00:40:22.180 a difference.
00:40:23.380 Right,
00:40:23.600 of course.
00:40:24.000 No,
00:40:24.140 of course
00:40:24.380 that's the
00:40:24.700 case.
00:40:24.920 You don't
00:40:25.120 want to
00:40:25.320 talk like
00:40:25.680 a sailor
00:40:26.180 around
00:40:26.560 kindergartners.
00:40:27.580 The context
00:40:28.640 matters here.
00:40:29.680 And the
00:40:30.120 American left
00:40:30.800 is trying
00:40:31.400 to completely
00:40:32.580 take away
00:40:33.120 the context
00:40:33.800 and make
00:40:34.240 what to
00:40:34.920 me are
00:40:35.200 just outright
00:40:36.360 dishonest
00:40:37.140 arguments,
00:40:37.700 saying that
00:40:38.120 the bill
00:40:38.340 does things
00:40:38.880 that it's
00:40:39.260 not doing.
00:40:40.060 And probably
00:40:40.540 it's because
00:40:40.880 they know
00:40:41.280 that they're
00:40:41.860 losing on
00:40:42.340 this issue.
00:40:42.960 Now,
00:40:43.120 on the
00:40:43.480 question of
00:40:43.940 education,
00:40:44.800 Senator,
00:40:45.140 we do have
00:40:45.740 a pretty
00:40:46.060 big announcement
00:40:47.160 from Verdict
00:40:49.180 for all of
00:40:49.960 our wonderful
00:40:50.340 listeners and
00:40:50.940 for the
00:40:51.240 bright young
00:40:51.840 minds in
00:40:52.240 America.
00:40:52.640 For that,
00:40:53.260 I want to
00:40:53.540 bring on
00:40:53.920 our friend
00:40:54.540 Liz Wheeler
00:40:55.540 because,
00:40:56.500 Liz,
00:40:56.780 this involves
00:40:57.320 you too.
00:40:58.560 We are
00:40:59.100 going to
00:41:00.780 my alma mater
00:41:01.440 of Yale
00:41:01.900 University
00:41:02.420 coming up
00:41:02.900 in what,
00:41:03.160 just two
00:41:03.480 weeks?
00:41:04.500 We certainly
00:41:04.980 are.
00:41:05.440 And this
00:41:05.680 is perhaps,
00:41:06.580 it may be
00:41:07.140 the most
00:41:07.480 exciting episode
00:41:08.540 of Verdict
00:41:08.980 on the road
00:41:09.520 because Yale
00:41:10.920 is not only
00:41:12.220 your alma mater,
00:41:12.880 but they are
00:41:13.200 a very
00:41:13.520 ideologically
00:41:14.220 compromised,
00:41:15.160 elite institution
00:41:16.700 of higher
00:41:17.180 learning.
00:41:18.220 And I mean,
00:41:19.020 I think we're
00:41:19.400 going to have
00:41:19.560 a great time.
00:41:20.320 I expect a
00:41:21.000 big crowd,
00:41:22.100 a crowd that
00:41:22.680 doesn't just
00:41:23.520 agree with what
00:41:24.120 we're talking
00:41:24.460 about,
00:41:24.720 but a crowd
00:41:25.120 who wants to
00:41:25.520 come and
00:41:25.720 respectfully
00:41:26.100 disagree.
00:41:26.660 I think it's
00:41:26.920 going to be
00:41:27.100 great.
00:41:27.340 And Michael,
00:41:28.660 I got to
00:41:29.120 ask you,
00:41:29.540 how excited
00:41:30.080 are you to
00:41:30.580 be headed
00:41:30.900 back to
00:41:31.380 your old
00:41:31.760 stomping grounds?
00:41:32.820 I cannot
00:41:33.260 wait.
00:41:33.780 I'm not
00:41:34.260 sure who
00:41:35.700 is going
00:41:36.080 to get
00:41:36.380 more rotten
00:41:36.900 tomatoes
00:41:37.360 thrown at
00:41:37.960 him.
00:41:38.460 You know,
00:41:38.880 it's not a
00:41:39.320 very conservative
00:41:40.000 campus,
00:41:40.520 so I'm not
00:41:41.220 sure you're
00:41:41.520 the most
00:41:41.780 popular guy
00:41:42.440 there.
00:41:43.020 But for
00:41:43.320 me,
00:41:43.780 a prophet
00:41:44.580 has honor
00:41:45.260 everywhere but
00:41:46.040 in his
00:41:46.380 hometown.
00:41:47.280 Of course,
00:41:47.660 we had to
00:41:48.140 go because
00:41:48.740 one of my
00:41:49.180 favorite cigar
00:41:49.840 bars in
00:41:50.280 America is
00:41:50.940 there.
00:41:51.360 So I am
00:41:51.880 excited.
00:41:52.260 There is a
00:41:53.380 small but
00:41:54.520 mighty
00:41:54.880 conservative
00:41:55.580 underbelly
00:41:56.560 at Yale.
00:41:57.640 A lot of
00:41:58.000 people go
00:41:58.380 there and
00:41:58.680 become more
00:41:59.140 liberal.
00:41:59.580 That's most
00:41:59.900 of the time.
00:42:00.740 Some end
00:42:01.180 up to the
00:42:01.580 right of
00:42:01.960 Genghis Khan.
00:42:02.720 That's what
00:42:03.000 happened to
00:42:03.420 me.
00:42:03.760 So we're
00:42:04.020 very excited.
00:42:04.680 That's going
00:42:05.020 to take
00:42:05.260 place on
00:42:06.140 April 11th.
00:42:07.220 And then
00:42:07.820 we will be
00:42:08.400 going to
00:42:08.940 the University
00:42:09.380 of Alabama
00:42:09.960 on April
00:42:10.880 18th.
00:42:11.540 And we
00:42:11.880 should point
00:42:12.320 out, it's
00:42:12.940 not just
00:42:13.300 going to be
00:42:13.600 you,
00:42:13.900 Senator.
00:42:14.260 It's not
00:42:14.680 just going
00:42:14.980 to be me.
00:42:15.560 It's not
00:42:16.000 just going
00:42:16.300 to be our
00:42:16.660 trusty
00:42:17.060 cactus.
00:42:17.420 But it's
00:42:22.260 I hope
00:42:22.540 you're
00:42:22.740 going to
00:42:22.920 wear a
00:42:23.700 Princeton
00:42:24.020 and Harvard
00:42:24.500 gear on
00:42:25.460 stage at
00:42:26.320 Yale, right?
00:42:27.580 You know,
00:42:28.240 I'm assuming
00:42:28.880 Yale requires
00:42:30.160 that we be
00:42:31.020 in like a
00:42:31.580 smoking jacket
00:42:32.540 with maybe
00:42:33.500 a Sherlock
00:42:34.040 Holmes pipe
00:42:35.220 and some
00:42:36.400 Madeira.
00:42:39.000 Or I don't
00:42:39.720 know, has it
00:42:40.180 gone more
00:42:40.620 hippie than
00:42:41.080 that?
00:42:41.400 Do we have
00:42:41.880 to be like
00:42:42.720 nude and
00:42:44.380 taking peyote
00:42:45.880 or something?
00:42:46.560 I think it's
00:42:47.040 a little bit
00:42:47.400 of both,
00:42:47.960 Senator.
00:42:48.380 It's sort
00:42:48.640 of, Yale
00:42:49.180 has become
00:42:49.660 a bit of
00:42:50.080 a mullet
00:42:50.480 these days.
00:42:51.340 You know,
00:42:51.500 tweed on
00:42:52.420 the front,
00:42:53.300 but that's
00:42:53.740 it.
00:42:54.100 You know,
00:42:54.300 you wear
00:42:54.740 your bow tie
00:42:55.380 and nothing
00:42:56.080 else.
00:42:56.700 So we'll
00:42:56.980 be doing
00:42:57.260 that.
00:42:57.580 One of
00:42:57.840 the more
00:42:58.140 surprising
00:42:58.620 things,
00:42:59.060 though,
00:42:59.280 is that
00:42:59.880 actually,
00:43:00.560 we're very
00:43:01.080 excited to
00:43:01.720 have been
00:43:02.220 invited by
00:43:03.140 Yale,
00:43:03.620 even with
00:43:04.160 its liberal
00:43:04.520 reputation,
00:43:05.340 but it was
00:43:05.680 the University
00:43:06.280 of Alabama,
00:43:07.140 the student
00:43:07.520 paper there,
00:43:08.600 that actually
00:43:09.240 called the
00:43:09.940 Young
00:43:10.280 America's
00:43:10.740 Foundation
00:43:11.240 an institution
00:43:12.900 of bigotry
00:43:14.140 and extremism
00:43:15.540 that is
00:43:16.300 consistently
00:43:16.980 linked to
00:43:17.980 racism,
00:43:18.900 Islamophobia,
00:43:19.760 transphobia,
00:43:20.440 and other
00:43:21.280 harmful ideologies.
00:43:22.560 It is not
00:43:23.040 an organization
00:43:23.680 of freedom
00:43:24.640 or tradition.
00:43:25.940 Even down
00:43:26.480 south,
00:43:27.760 it seems
00:43:28.320 that liberalism
00:43:29.500 and leftism
00:43:30.300 reign.
00:43:31.360 Well,
00:43:31.600 I got to say
00:43:32.500 that particular
00:43:33.360 op-ed you're
00:43:34.120 reading from
00:43:34.720 is from the
00:43:35.520 Alabama College
00:43:36.500 newspaper,
00:43:38.020 and it reads
00:43:39.420 like a parody,
00:43:40.720 like if the
00:43:42.340 Babylon Bee
00:43:43.280 made up an
00:43:45.100 angry leftist
00:43:46.360 newspaper,
00:43:46.900 so they
00:43:47.280 apparently,
00:43:48.560 there's a
00:43:49.060 woman who's 1.00
00:43:49.460 running for
00:43:49.820 student body
00:43:50.320 president who
00:43:51.080 they had
00:43:51.760 endorsed,
00:43:53.240 and after
00:43:54.040 the student
00:43:54.580 newspaper
00:43:55.100 endorsed
00:43:55.740 them,
00:43:56.760 someone found
00:43:57.940 a picture
00:43:58.620 of her at
00:44:00.020 a YAF
00:44:00.880 conference in
00:44:01.920 D.C.,
00:44:02.500 and these
00:44:02.880 leftists threw
00:44:03.960 a tizzy fit.
00:44:04.780 They stamped
00:44:05.380 their feet,
00:44:06.280 oh goodness,
00:44:07.020 this person
00:44:07.640 we endorsed
00:44:08.460 has like
00:44:10.160 encountered a
00:44:11.460 conservative
00:44:12.020 idea in her
00:44:13.160 life.
00:44:13.840 What can
00:44:14.460 we do?
00:44:15.680 And so
00:44:16.340 they have
00:44:16.720 all these
00:44:17.380 ad hominem
00:44:18.040 insults at
00:44:19.020 YAF,
00:44:19.860 and you know,
00:44:20.320 they believe
00:44:20.760 in things
00:44:21.380 like free
00:44:22.520 enterprise,
00:44:23.440 the Constitution,
00:44:24.700 free speech,
00:44:25.640 religious liberty,
00:44:26.780 my God,
00:44:27.220 they might even
00:44:27.700 believe in the
00:44:28.240 Second Amendment,
00:44:29.560 but then the
00:44:31.560 editorial ends
00:44:32.560 with the funniest
00:44:33.160 portion of all
00:44:34.080 their says,
00:44:35.060 well, so we
00:44:36.460 don't think this
00:44:37.020 candidate is all
00:44:37.760 that great,
00:44:38.700 but her opponent 0.96
00:44:39.220 is worse,
00:44:40.140 so don't vote
00:44:41.320 at all,
00:44:41.880 but if you do
00:44:42.400 vote, vote for
00:44:43.560 her, but 0.94
00:44:44.440 God, we
00:44:44.900 can't stand
00:44:45.360 conservatives,
00:44:46.020 and it's like,
00:44:46.920 really?
00:44:47.740 Like, it's
00:44:50.000 truly a sight
00:44:50.680 to behold.
00:44:51.400 Oh, the whole
00:44:51.880 thing absolutely
00:44:52.500 slayed me.
00:44:53.120 I laughed out
00:44:53.660 loud reading
00:44:54.060 this because I
00:44:54.800 thought to
00:44:55.100 myself, listen,
00:44:55.840 according to
00:44:56.920 radical leftist
00:44:57.560 ideology, the
00:44:58.700 governor, or
00:44:59.540 now the former
00:45:00.120 governor of
00:45:00.760 Virginia, can
00:45:01.480 show up in
00:45:02.560 blackface in a 0.96
00:45:04.300 photograph, but
00:45:04.940 God forbid that
00:45:05.700 this young woman
00:45:06.240 running for
00:45:06.860 student government
00:45:07.520 show up in a
00:45:08.440 picture from the
00:45:08.980 Young America's
00:45:09.580 Foundation conference.
00:45:11.040 This is the
00:45:11.760 standards that the
00:45:12.480 left has set and
00:45:13.980 how they apply to
00:45:14.620 conservatives.
00:45:15.060 This is going to
00:45:15.420 be a great event.
00:45:16.140 I hope the
00:45:16.660 authors of this
00:45:17.420 editorial come to
00:45:18.260 our event.
00:45:19.120 Absolutely.
00:45:19.800 They are welcome.
00:45:20.740 They will be
00:45:21.160 treated respectfully,
00:45:22.160 and they're welcome
00:45:23.540 to come up with 0.89
00:45:24.460 whatever crazy-ass 0.96
00:45:26.040 question they want. 0.95
00:45:27.060 We will give them
00:45:27.840 a place of honor.
00:45:29.320 And we'll try not to
00:45:30.140 take their picture at a
00:45:31.380 YAF event.
00:45:33.820 For their future
00:45:34.720 candidacy.
00:45:35.960 Yeah, then they'll
00:45:36.480 unendorse themselves. 0.99
00:45:37.440 Oh, crap, we were 0.98
00:45:38.520 photographed at 0.99
00:45:39.220 Verdict.
00:45:39.640 We officially
00:45:41.320 deplatform ourselves.
00:45:43.860 It totally underscores
00:45:45.260 the reason why these
00:45:46.340 events are so
00:45:46.940 important, why we've
00:45:47.900 got to go straight
00:45:48.900 to the college
00:45:49.740 campuses where
00:45:50.520 these battles are
00:45:51.280 being fought.
00:45:51.800 We're so excited to
00:45:52.780 do it with Young
00:45:53.840 America's Foundation.
00:45:54.980 You can find out
00:45:55.960 more about these
00:45:57.020 events.
00:45:57.700 That's April 11th
00:45:58.800 at Yale and
00:45:59.760 April 18th at
00:46:00.860 the University of
00:46:01.420 Alabama.
00:46:01.880 Go to
00:46:02.240 Y-A-F dot 1.00
00:46:03.960 org slash
00:46:05.340 Verdict Live.
00:46:06.680 That is
00:46:06.880 Y-A-F dot 1.00
00:46:08.220 org slash
00:46:09.040 Verdict Live.
00:46:10.280 If you're around
00:46:11.100 New Haven, if you're
00:46:11.840 around the University
00:46:12.700 of Alabama, we will
00:46:14.200 see you there.
00:46:15.520 Now, Michael, you
00:46:16.220 can sign up to go
00:46:17.260 in person, but you
00:46:18.800 can also go there and
00:46:19.840 sign up to watch it
00:46:21.060 live on YouTube.
00:46:22.840 So if you can't make
00:46:24.020 it to New Haven, if
00:46:25.620 you can't make it to
00:46:26.600 Alabama, you can stay 0.99
00:46:28.600 in the comfort of your
00:46:29.880 own home wearing
00:46:30.940 pajamas and bunny
00:46:32.120 slippers and watch
00:46:33.940 actually you would
00:46:34.520 fit in well at Yale
00:46:35.440 in pajamas and
00:46:36.260 bunny slippers and
00:46:37.480 watch it live on
00:46:38.840 YouTube, the same
00:46:39.860 link, right?
00:46:40.660 Absolutely.
00:46:41.240 So make sure you
00:46:42.320 head on over.
00:46:42.940 We're so happy as
00:46:43.760 always to partner
00:46:44.800 with Young
00:46:45.240 America's Foundation.
00:46:46.440 It's going to be a
00:46:47.220 great deal of fun to
00:46:48.760 introduce a whole new
00:46:50.620 generation of young
00:46:51.960 American college
00:46:53.100 conservatives to the
00:46:55.020 right wing, which
00:46:55.740 they probably haven't
00:46:56.620 heard a whole lot
00:46:57.100 about it in their
00:46:57.700 classrooms.
00:46:58.320 We're looking forward
00:46:59.000 to seeing you.
00:46:59.720 And if we can't see
00:47:00.440 you, at least you'll
00:47:01.280 see us.
00:47:01.800 That is yaf.org
00:47:04.200 slash verdict live.
00:47:06.300 Before that, though,
00:47:06.960 Liz, you're going to be
00:47:07.880 speaking with the
00:47:08.560 senator on the cloak
00:47:09.880 room.
00:47:10.080 What are you talking
00:47:10.540 about?
00:47:11.020 Yes, we have a great
00:47:12.340 topic.
00:47:12.600 This is a topic we're
00:47:13.340 asked, senator, to talk
00:47:14.600 about a lot, especially
00:47:15.920 from the verdict plus
00:47:16.800 community.
00:47:17.780 We're going to be
00:47:18.280 talking a little bit
00:47:18.860 about the great reset.
00:47:20.080 We're going to be
00:47:20.400 talking about the world
00:47:21.080 economic forum and
00:47:22.060 Klaus Schwab and this
00:47:23.220 idea of globalism and
00:47:24.900 not not only those
00:47:26.400 topics in and of
00:47:27.040 themselves, but what we
00:47:28.060 can do in our legal
00:47:29.780 system here in the
00:47:30.500 United States to
00:47:31.120 actually prevent
00:47:31.980 globalists from having 0.99
00:47:33.080 control over our
00:47:33.780 country.
00:47:34.040 So it's very nerdy,
00:47:35.100 very interesting, a
00:47:35.940 highly requested
00:47:36.560 topic.
00:47:37.640 Anybody who wants to
00:47:38.960 join us on the
00:47:40.220 cloakroom, join us on
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00:47:51.720 That sounds fabulous.
00:47:53.460 In the meantime, we
00:47:54.240 will be having a
00:47:55.500 reset ourselves.
00:47:56.380 Not a great reset, a
00:47:57.520 minor reset before we
00:47:58.840 head on over to
00:47:59.420 cloakroom.
00:47:59.880 In the meantime, I'm
00:48:00.580 Michael Knowles.
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