Verdict with Ted Cruz - December 06, 2024


Pardon-palooza: Biden Plans to Pardon EVERYBODY, plus Supreme Court hears Challenge to law Prohibiting Sex Transition Surgeries for Kids

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Dems & Media Urge Biden to Issue Far-Reaching Pardons of EVERYBODY-Entire Biden Family & Senior Biden Officials Naughty List of Corrupt Biden Officials, Dems Afraid of some Serious Kash & SCOTUS Gender Transition for Minors Case Week In Review

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Ted Cruz and Ben Fergusons predict that more pardons are coming from the White House before they leave office, and they are 100% correct. The White House is going through a list of people they are considering pardoning, and it includes members of President Trump's own administration.

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00:00:05.480 Welcome. It is verdict with Senator Ted Cruz, Ben Ferguson with you.
00:00:08.880 And Senator, I hate it when we have to admit so often that we were just absolutely right in predicting something.
00:00:14.860 And sure enough, now the White House is hunkered down going through long lists of pardons
00:00:20.720 and letting the American people know you should expect more pardons before we leave office.
00:00:28.100 Well, this week we were struck with the stunning news that the White House has announced.
00:00:32.840 Verdict with Ted Cruz Wednesday pod was exactly entirely 100 percent accurate that every word we said.
00:00:40.900 And by the way, if you didn't listen to Wednesday's pod, you should listen to Wednesday's pod because we predicted.
00:00:45.840 We said that the left wing media and Democrats were pressing Joe Biden to issue a ton more pardons to pardon the rest of his family,
00:00:53.900 to pardon members of his administration. And now and we said, look, that's the direction they're going.
00:01:00.540 And and seemingly in response to our podcast, the White House immediately came out and said,
00:01:07.120 expect more pardons. And we're seeing a list of people now that that they are contemplating pardoning.
00:01:13.840 In addition, we had a major Supreme Court case argued this week, a challenge to Tennessee's law that prohibits
00:01:21.880 sex transition treatments for children. And the ACLU has has challenged this, arguing that it violates
00:01:31.140 the Constitution, that the Constitution requires that you be able to to mutilate and sterilize children. 0.90
00:01:38.260 That argument played out in the Supreme Court this week. We're going to lay out how it went.
00:01:42.260 Yeah, it's truly shocking what they were saying, including some of the Supreme Court justices.
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00:03:47.780 if you missed that podcast and listen to it because we talked about this idea that was really coming
00:03:53.180 out of the White House that they wanted to expand the list of people that would be given pardons.
00:03:58.980 That could also include the president, in theory, pardoning himself. What we are now seeing is the
00:04:05.720 White House is saying, yeah, it's coming and you should prepare for a lot of people to quite possibly
00:04:10.700 be pardoned. So just get used to it. Your instant reaction to the White House now confirming this story.
00:04:17.420 Well, we put out the podcast Wednesday morning as the sun was coming up and several hours later,
00:04:23.300 Politico issued a report entitled Biden White House is discussing preemptive pardons for those in Trump's
00:04:30.480 crosshairs. It was written by Jonathan Martin, who's a longtime Washington reporter.
00:04:34.200 And what he reports is that White House officials are debating issuing blanket pardons to multiple
00:04:44.720 people, which is exactly what we predicted. And here's what Politico reports. Quote,
00:04:49.080 those who could face exposure include such members of Congress's January 6th committee as Adam Schiff,
00:04:56.360 Liz Cheney, also mentioned Anthony Fauci, and others as well. And so that's the initial list. Adam Schiff,
00:05:10.260 Liz Cheney, Anthony Fauci, that's who they are discussing. And what is striking is there are now
00:05:17.080 multiple elected Democrats explicitly urging this. So for example, Massachusetts Senator Ed Markey,
00:05:26.360 said in a press interview, quote, if it's clear by January 19th that revenge is his intention,
00:05:34.160 then I would recommend to President Biden that he provide those preemptive pardons to people,
00:05:39.180 because that's really what our country is going to need next year. Another Democrat congressman,
00:05:44.760 Brendan Boyle from Pennsylvania, likewise called for blanket pardons. He said, quote,
00:05:51.540 this is no hypothetical threat. The time for cautious restraint is over. We must act with urgency to
00:05:59.700 push back against these threats and prevent Trump from abusing his power. I will say to, I guess,
00:06:07.180 some modicum of his credit, one person pushing on the other side is Adam Schiff. Now, to be clear,
00:06:13.180 they're talking about giving him a pardon. And Schiff was quoted as saying, quote,
00:06:17.440 I would urge the president not to do that. I think it would seem defensive and unnecessary.
00:06:23.320 Well, I got to say, it is stunning. And you're right. The White House is now publicly saying,
00:06:29.200 expect more pardons. Here we come. And it's a question of just how much they're going to abuse
00:06:34.800 power, because it really is, at this point, stunning. And apparently that everyone who may have
00:06:42.380 committed wrongdoing is panicking that there may be some accountability. And so they want to pardon
00:06:47.660 everybody for whatever crimes they might have committed. And you talk about Adam Schiff. Let's
00:06:53.120 remind people of back in 2018, what Adam Schiff did. Adam Schiff introduced a bill to keep Trump
00:07:00.820 from, quote, abusing pardon powers for his family. This was on CNN on Don Lemon's show back in 2018.
00:07:10.780 So the president's pardon of Scooter Libby, Congressman, has inspired you to propose
00:07:15.440 new legislation. What exactly would it do? What it would do is say that in the event the
00:07:20.480 president pardons anyone in an investigation in which the president is a witness, a subject,
00:07:26.780 or the target, those investigative files will all be turned over to the Congress. The Congress ought to
00:07:32.440 know whether the president is using the pardon power to obstruct justice. The American people have
00:07:38.560 a right to know. I think it is clearly constitutional. It doesn't prohibit him from granting a pardon,
00:07:44.600 even a pardon he shouldn't grant. But it does say that we will be able to at least find out
00:07:49.880 whether the president is using this power to shield himself from liability.
00:07:54.940 It offers transparency at the very least.
00:07:57.560 Wow. I mean, what a great idea now, Adam Schiff. Why aren't you introducing this legislation all over
00:08:02.680 again so we can know all of the people that are going to be pardoned, why they're being pardoned,
00:08:06.440 and all the files that show what the information is behind it? I'm waiting for this Adam Schiff to
00:08:12.280 18 to appear again, Senator.
00:08:14.500 Well, and I got to say, under that reasoning, that would have the Department of Justice
00:08:19.200 forwarding the investigatory files of Hunter Biden to Congress, to the Republican majorities in both
00:08:26.120 Congresses. Under his reasoning, he just argued for that. I'll be curious to see if he thinks it
00:08:32.120 should apply in those circumstances. You know, you know, spoiler alert, I would not bet on it.
00:08:38.320 No, I wouldn't either. Let's also talk about Politico's Jonathan Martin and what he said on TV
00:08:43.880 about this pardon list. This was after the writing in Politico. Take a listen to how he described it
00:08:49.980 earlier.
00:08:50.380 The title, Biden White House is discussing preemptive pardons for those in Trump's crosshairs. In it,
00:08:56.900 you write this, quote, President Joe Biden's senior aides are conducting a vigorous internal debate
00:09:02.080 of whether to issue preemptive pardons to a range of current and former public officials who could
00:09:07.640 be targeted with President-elect Donald Trump's return to the White House. It's according to senior
00:09:11.740 Democrats familiar with the discussions. The deliberations touch on pardoning those currently
00:09:16.980 in office, elected and appointed, as well as former officials who've angered Trump and his
00:09:22.040 loyalists. Those who could face exposure include such members of Congress's January 6th committee
00:09:27.720 as Senator-elect Adam Schiff and former GOP representative Liz Cheney. Also mentioned by
00:09:33.760 Biden's aides for a pardon, Anthony Fauci, former head of the National Institute of Allergy and
00:09:39.440 Infectious Diseases, who became a lightning rod for criticism from the right during the COVID-19
00:09:44.960 pandemic. The president himself, Jonathan, continues, who was intensely focused on his
00:09:49.800 son's pardon has not been brought into the broader pardon discussions yet, according to people
00:09:54.420 familiar with deliberations. So, Jonathan, what does this look like? What are you pardoning Anthony
00:09:59.060 Fauci for? What are you pardoning Liz Cheney for who've not been charged or convicted of crimes?
00:10:05.400 That goes to the heart of this deliberation, William, why this is so delicate, because
00:10:11.300 the White House counsel and a handful of senior White House aides, including Jeff Zients, the chief
00:10:17.580 of staff, are having this debate right now in the West Wing, which is, do we leave these folks out
00:10:24.000 in the cold and potentially expose them to Kash Patel's FBI and Donald Trump's White House for
00:10:30.140 any number of charges or some kind of, you know, show trial to get a measure of revenge and at the
00:10:40.440 very least make them pay six figures in legal bills to avoid such a case? Or do we do we offer
00:10:47.360 preemptively pardons to people who there's no proof they've done anything wrong whatsoever and
00:10:52.540 Willie may not want a pardon in the first place? That's a real tough call, because if you don't do it
00:10:58.220 and Patel and company come after some of these people and you had the chance to give them
00:11:03.720 inoculation legally, that's a hell of a thing to regret. At the same time, do you want to pardon
00:11:09.440 somebody like Liz Cheney or Anthony Fauci and suggest any kind of impropriety that could only add fuel to
00:11:17.080 the Trump aggressors in the first place? It's a real tough nut. I love the way he describes it at the end.
00:11:23.680 He's like, it's a real tough nut. Like, this is a hard one. You know, should we just admit that we
00:11:27.780 broke a hell of a bunch of laws and just hand out the pardons? Or do we act like we didn't break laws
00:11:33.500 and hope they don't come after all of us? Well, and I will say, even the way he's reporting it,
00:11:39.480 the Trump aggressors. Look, the idea that anyone in and around Joe Biden would be held responsible
00:11:49.340 for laws they have been broken is treated as a pearl-clutching horror for the media and for the
00:11:58.100 Democrats. And listen, my view, and we've talked about this at length, I don't want to see a
00:12:05.560 Republican Department of Justice. I don't want to see a Republican FBI. I don't want to see a Democrat 0.88
00:12:09.460 Department of Justice. I don't want to see a Democrat FBI. I want a Department of Justice 0.89
00:12:13.500 and an FBI that enforces the law regardless of party. And that apparently is a terrifying thing
00:12:22.320 to individuals who previously consider themselves unaccountable and not bound by the ordinary
00:12:32.620 constraints of law. Well, and even look at Bill Clinton, for example. Bill Clinton is now coming
00:12:38.340 out saying he wants to stop the cycle of criminalizing politics. That's pretty rich
00:12:44.400 from the Democrats after that's all they've done the last four years. Here is Bill Clinton at the
00:12:50.460 Dealbook Summit. It's a New York Times event. Listen. You think Biden should be pardoning Trump? And by
00:12:57.420 the way, some people think that Trump should be pardoning Biden. Well, I do think we should stop
00:13:03.680 trying to criminalize politics. But on the other hand, I think we should, both of us, because,
00:13:12.660 well, because, obviously, and the people don't like it and they're not going along with it from
00:13:19.840 right to left. On the other hand, you have to ask yourself, if you do this blanket thing,
00:13:28.060 is there anything a president could do that he would or she someday would get in trouble for?
00:13:35.920 I mean, Senator, they weaponized the FBI, the DOJ, the entire apparatus of the White House,
00:13:42.460 the executive branch, to go after their political enemies for four years. And now all of a sudden,
00:13:47.100 they're like, hey, we should not have Republicans doing that. Republicans never did that. The Democrats
00:13:51.980 are the ones that have done it. I'm curious. Did Bill Clinton say that the first time Trump was
00:13:59.540 indicted? No. Did he say that the second time Trump was indicted? Hell no. Did he say that the third
00:14:06.400 time Trump was indicted? Nope. Did he say that the fourth time Trump was indicted? No. And he didn't
00:14:13.200 say it when they were raiding Mar-a-Lago either. Yeah. I mean, it is amazing. And by the way, Bill Clinton
00:14:19.800 also didn't say that when the Trump DOJ was prosecuting people for peaceful protest on January
00:14:26.280 6th, when they were using the violent acts of a limited number of people as an excuse to engage
00:14:34.040 in political persecution. Bill Clinton didn't speak out when the Biden Department of Justice was
00:14:39.720 targeting parents for going to school board meetings and speaking out, sending the FBI to
00:14:45.020 intimidate moms and dads who are exercising their constitutional rights at school board meetings.
00:14:50.140 He didn't speak out when the Biden administration was firing people for declining to take the COVID
00:14:56.800 vaccine. He didn't speak out when the Biden administration was coercing private businesses
00:15:01.520 to fire people for declining to take the COVID vaccine. He didn't speak out when the Biden
00:15:05.800 administration sent over a dozen FBI agents withdrawn machine guns to arrest a pro-life protester
00:15:13.640 at dawn in front of his children. By the way, that case, the jury threw it out when they tried to put
00:15:19.380 him in jail and the jury said, this is ridiculous and threw it out incredibly quickly. The absolute and
00:15:26.900 brazen hypocrisy of the Democrats that they've suddenly discovered, uh-oh, don't use the legal process 0.97
00:15:35.020 against us. And I want to be clear. I do not believe the Trump administration should persecute 0.69
00:15:44.260 Democrats. I do believe they should follow the law. And if individuals have violated the law,
00:15:51.280 they should enforce the law. That is very different from targeting and weaponizing DOJ. You know, I sat down
00:15:57.360 this week with Pam Bondi, the nominee to be attorney general, and the entire discussion I had with her
00:16:02.820 was about restoring integrity to the Department of Justice, not about turning it into a tool just
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00:16:46.160 to your podcasts. You're talking about the fidelity and the rule of law here. So the question now becomes,
00:16:53.000 if the president decides to walk out there and say, I'm going to preemptively pardon everyone,
00:17:01.900 Fauci, Schiff, Liz Cheney, and people all around my family, all of the all of maybe the business
00:17:08.460 associates, for example, around Hunter Biden, is there anything that Congress will be able to do to
00:17:14.720 stop this or to rein it in? I go back to Adam Schiff when he was like, well, what we should be doing is
00:17:20.000 you should have to send over all the documents. Or is this pretty much like he's in charge,
00:17:24.380 he's leaving, he can do whatever the hell he wants. It's the power of the presidency.
00:17:28.420 And even if he wants to abuse the pardon power, he has a right to do it.
00:17:31.980 What mindset should everyone listening have on reality now?
00:17:36.040 Look, under the Constitution, the pardon power is essentially an absolute power.
00:17:41.100 And so there is not any limitation in the Constitution that Congress can enforce on the
00:17:49.660 pardon power. That is given to the president. The only limitation is public pressure, public
00:17:55.680 scrutiny. The only thing that constrains presidents is they don't want the world to know that they're
00:18:01.060 utterly corrupt hacks. Now, I will say Biden's got a problem in that because he's already done the
00:18:07.880 Hunter Biden. Pardon. And I'll read from an article in Axios, which often reports on sort of inside
00:18:16.600 gossip in the White House and Capitol Hill. And the story is entitled Behind the Curtain,
00:18:25.600 Biden's Haunting Twin Sins. And here's what Axios reports. President Biden's post-presidency now looks
00:18:33.860 bleak as his brutal final months. Some top Democrats tell us they're so furious about
00:18:40.580 Biden's abrupt, clumsy pardon of his son Hunter that they're threatening to withhold donations
00:18:46.240 from his future presidential library. And his, quote, twin selfishness, what it says is why it
00:18:56.360 matters. Biden 82 will limp away from the limelight, widely disliked by the public, and now loathed by
00:19:02.840 many Democrats who blame him for twin sins of selfishness, running again, then pardoning Hunter
00:19:10.480 after repeatedly saying he wouldn't. That's the real constraint is just public shame and disgrace.
00:19:18.100 And the question is, are Democrats capable of public shame anymore? Or is Trump derangement
00:19:24.800 syndrome so bad that their answer to everything is orange man bad? Yeah, it's a great point. I want to 1.00
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00:20:59.380 this case on gender transitions for minors. Now, this has all come out of a case in Tennessee
00:21:05.120 where Tennessee was arguing that you must protect children from harm and body mutilation,
00:21:13.200 especially at very young ages. And the left and the federal government saying, well, hold on a
00:21:20.320 second. We're in favor of this transgender care, arguing that even those that are two and three
00:21:28.180 and four years old, they know that they're trans. So let them be sterilized and castrate themselves. 1.00
00:21:33.760 That is what the ACLU lawyer said in his own words while he was arguing this on TV, on CNN. I want 0.94
00:21:43.200 you to listen and get your reaction to that. I would say nobody has to provide this medication to
00:21:49.120 adolescents. These are not doctors being forced to provide this medication. These are doctors who
00:21:53.820 are wanting to treat their patients in the best way that they know how based on the best available
00:21:58.760 evidence to us. And these are young people who may have known since they were two years old exactly
00:22:03.320 who they are, who suffered for six, seven years before they had any relief. And what's happening here,
00:22:08.340 it's not the kids who are consenting to this treatment, it's the parents who are consenting to
00:22:12.160 the treatment. And as a parent, I would say we, when our children are suffering, we are suffering. And these
00:22:17.740 are parents who love their children, who are listening to the advice of their doctors of the mainstream
00:22:21.720 medical community and doing what's right for their kids. And the state of Tennessee has displaced their
00:22:26.260 judgment. Now you hear that argument and that to me is just, I'm sorry, child abuse. If you're
00:22:32.200 mutilating a child at two and three and four years old, and that's what Tennessee was saying. 0.76
00:22:38.100 Well, Tennessee passed, I think, a very reasonable law that prohibited puberty blockers and hormones and
00:22:45.980 sterilizing children, sterilizing minors. And we're seeing multiple state legislatures that are
00:22:51.940 acting to protect children. I think that is a reasonable and common sense step. And what happened
00:22:57.600 is, unsurprisingly, that the state got sued and the ACLU argued that making it illegal for a small
00:23:05.740 child to be sterilized and made permanently unable to have children or even to be mutilated, that
00:23:12.540 prohibiting that violated the 14th Amendment, the Equal Protection Clause of the Constitution.
00:23:20.460 That was the argument. And the Court of Appeals upheld the Tennessee law and the Supreme Court took
00:23:25.980 the case. And so that was the argument. You heard right there the ACLU lawyers arguing for being able
00:23:33.760 to sterilize eight-year-olds. Just using the math the lawyer laid out, the lawyer talked about
00:23:38.220 a child at the age of two might know that he or she is transgender, and they might have had to wait
00:23:45.440 six years. Last I checked, two plus six is eight. And so the legal argument is that eight-year-old,
00:23:53.120 the parent should be able to sterilize that child. And you know what? If that child decides that at 18,
00:23:59.920 he or she wants to be a dad or wants to be a mom, well, too late now, because when you were eight,
00:24:05.720 we went ahead and sterilized you, so there's no going back. And this argument went back and forth.
00:24:11.220 All right, I'm going to make a prediction. My prediction, I think the Supreme Court is going to
00:24:15.520 uphold Tennessee's law. And I think we may see a breakdown that plays out along pretty familiar
00:24:22.960 ideological lines now. It was pretty striking. The three liberal justices all were asking questions
00:24:31.560 that I got to say were really extreme and showing the modern left, they are all in
00:24:40.260 on mutilating and sterilizing children. This is not a fringe view on the left. Today's elected
00:24:48.860 Democrats and sadly, the left-wing activists they put on the courts are absolutely committed
00:24:56.120 to this extreme agenda. So I want you to listen. Justice Sotomayor downplaying the risk of mutilation
00:25:03.820 of minors in this back and forth in these oral arguments. This is what she said.
00:25:09.720 Cannot eliminate the risk of detransitioners. So it becomes a pure exercise of weighing benefits 1.00
00:25:16.960 versus risk. And the question of how many minors have to have their bodies irreparably harmed
00:25:22.740 for unproven benefits is one that is best left. I'm sorry, Councillor. Every medical treatment
00:25:29.460 has a risk, even taking aspirin. There is always going to be a percentage of the population under
00:25:39.180 any medical treatment that's going to suffer a harm. So the question in my mind is not,
00:25:46.480 do policymakers decide whether one person's life is more valuable than the millions of others who
00:25:56.260 get relief from this treatment? The question is, can you stop one sex from the other? 1.00
00:26:03.600 I mean, she's saying this is not a big deal at all if you're mutilating a child because even
00:26:11.660 aspirin has risks and effects. So therefore, just put it under the category of everything goes.
00:26:18.360 Well, that sums up today's radical left. In their view, severing a child's genitals 0.98
00:26:26.960 is comparable to taking aspirin. She also claimed, quote, millions of people are getting relief
00:26:36.580 from this. Now, thankfully, we do not currently have millions of children being sterilized. But let's
00:26:43.400 be clear, that's the left's worldview, is that sterilizing little boys and little girls, mutilating
00:26:50.060 them, making them permanently unable to have children, that should be happening on the scale of 1.00
00:26:57.080 millions and millions of little boys and little girls. That is Justice Sotomayor here. Take a listen
00:27:03.480 to Justice Ketanji Brown Jackson.
00:27:09.300 Drawn by the statute. That was sort of like the starting point. The question was whether it was
00:27:14.020 discriminatory because it applied to both races and it wasn't necessarily invidious or whatever. But
00:27:20.360 you know, as I read the statute here, the excuse me, the case here, you know, the court starts off by
00:27:26.400 saying that Virginia is now one of 16 states which prohibit and punish marriages on the basis of racial
00:27:31.720 classifications. And when you look at the structure of that law, it looks in terms of, you know, you can't do
00:27:37.800 something that is inconsistent with your own characteristics. It's sort of the same thing. So
00:27:42.600 it's interesting to me that we now have this different argument and I wonder whether Virginia could have
00:27:46.820 gotten away with what they did here by just making a classification argument the way that Tennessee is
00:27:54.680 in this case. Yes, I think that's exactly right that there is absolutely a parallel between any law that
00:28:00.600 says you can't act inconsistent with a protected characteristic and in all other contexts.
00:28:05.560 You hear it there. This is another example of just how extreme these and this is why the elections,
00:28:11.160 by the way, are so important, Senator. I mean, this is why Donald Trump being elected was so important
00:28:15.720 because when he's not when you don't have a conservative in the White House, you get these
00:28:19.960 radical activists who are Supreme Court justices and if they have the majority, this is what they
00:28:24.920 want you to be able to. This is what they want to happen to your children. Well, and let me break
00:28:29.720 down what that exchange back and forth was. So Ketanji Brown Jackson, who Joe Biden put on the
00:28:35.720 Supreme Court, is comparing this Tennessee law to the law in Loving v. Virginia. Now, Loving v.
00:28:42.680 Virginia is a Supreme Court case. It's a landmark case that struck down Virginia's ban decades ago,
00:28:49.880 many, many years ago, on interracial marriage, on African-Americans and Anglos choosing to get
00:28:56.600 married. And she says, quote, it's sort of the same thing. Now, Virginia's law was an abomination. 0.96
00:29:04.760 It was restricting adults making the decision to get married. It was deliberately doing so on the
00:29:12.600 basis of race, which, mind you, we fought a civil war in significant part to end slavery and to vindicate
00:29:21.880 equal rights. And we passed and adopted the 13th, 14th and 15th amendments to end slavery, to protect
00:29:28.120 equal protection and to give African-Americans the right to vote to ensure that there's not 1.00
00:29:33.240 racial discrimination. But in the less few, not sterilizing an eight year old is the same thing.
00:29:42.200 Like that is bizarre. And by the way, the person who responds to Justice Jackson is Joe Biden's
00:29:49.480 solicitor general, the top lawyer for the Biden administration before the United States Supreme
00:29:55.400 Court. She's saying, oh, yeah, they're exactly the same thing. In our worldview, you ought to be able
00:30:00.440 to mutilate children. It doesn't matter how how young the Constitution protects your right
00:30:07.000 to mutilate your child. That is a bizarre view. That is an extreme view. And and that sadly is is is is
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00:32:13.480 out of the Supreme Court. And if you look at the way that this was being argued, and I think one of
00:32:19.800 the other things that's just so unhinged about this, the argument for medically mutilating minors,
00:32:25.160 is the fact that the issue really does seem to come down to money. The amount of money that people
00:32:31.400 are now making off these surgeries is saying it is an increase year over year of over 14.4% on average.
00:32:38.920 So the transgender surgery world, and then the lifetime of care is expanding at a 14.4%
00:32:48.840 rate year over year. That's why so many medical areas, doctors and hospitals are advocating for
00:32:57.400 this because they make money. Vanderbilt said very clearly to their doctors, either you get on board
00:33:03.960 with this or you get out. We're not going to let you say no to this because there's too much
00:33:08.840 money to be made in, quote, gender care. Yeah, there are vast amounts of money at stake.
00:33:15.400 And it has become, it really is a strange obsession of the radical left. It is a virtue signal.
00:33:26.920 Remember, we had on verdict a couple of months ago, Sean Theory. Sean Theory was an African-American 1.00
00:33:36.440 Democratic state rep in Texas. She was an elected Democrat. She had been elected for four terms.
00:33:44.120 And on this issue, there was a bill in Texas to prohibit mutilating minors.
00:33:49.800 And she ended up voting for it. And the Democrat Party, she described on the podcast, if you didn't
00:33:55.800 listen to that podcast, you ought to go back and listen to it because it's incredibly revealing.
00:33:59.960 She described how how her fellow Democrats, African-Americans in the Texas state legislature
00:34:05.160 would come to her and she say, did you have you study the damage this does to children,
00:34:10.040 that if you give puberty blockers and you sterilize a child, it does lifelong medical damage to them.
00:34:16.040 It's horrible. And she said that many other Democrats she described said, oh, we know we agree.
00:34:21.400 It's terrible. But you cannot oppose this in our party. They will end you. Our party will end you.
00:34:28.200 Well, she ended up doing the courageous thing and voting for common sense and voting for kids.
00:34:32.440 And the Democrats recruited a primary challenger to her and beat her in the primary. And they spent
00:34:40.120 over one million dollars in a Democrat primary for a state house seat. That is how radical this issue
00:34:50.200 is. So there is money. There is big money on the other side. And it is enforced in in the US Senate.
00:34:58.200 Every single Democrat has voted in favor of mutilating minors. There is no dissension
00:35:03.240 that is allowed on this sick. And I got to say, and Joe Biden is enthusiastically in favor of it.
00:35:10.360 You know, I got to say also, look, this Supreme Court case,
00:35:14.920 part of the reason that there is is such focus on it is there was a previous Supreme Court decision
00:35:21.840 called Bostock. And Bostock is a decision that interpreted federal anti-discrimination law on
00:35:29.980 employment discrimination. And it is currently illegal under federal law to to discriminate
00:35:35.400 employment based on race and other characteristics, including sex. And in Bostock, the Supreme Court
00:35:41.640 took a prohibition on discrimination based on sex and construed sex to mean also being transgender.
00:35:49.160 And and that decision, that was a six three decision. That decision was authored by Justice
00:35:55.240 Gorsuch. And it was a fairly shocking decision. A lot of people were shocked that Justice Gorsuch
00:36:00.840 wrote that opinion. It was joined by Chief Justice Roberts. In addition to what were then four
00:36:06.800 liberals who were on the court at the time, Justice Ginsburg was still on the court. It was before Amy
00:36:11.040 Coney Barrett had had been nominated and before Justice Ginsburg obviously had passed away.
00:36:15.480 Um, so that was six three on the other side. I don't think we will see the same outcome.
00:36:22.680 I will say at the oral argument, Justice Gorsuch did not say a word, not a word. So we do not have
00:36:29.040 any indication from him as to how he will vote. But but Justice Roberts was quite vocal. And and what he
00:36:37.360 laid out is actually the reason why I'm confident the Tennessee law will be upheld, which is he laid out
00:36:42.980 the proposition that that the court should be deferring to state legislatures and and particularly
00:36:49.060 when you're dealing with contested medical evidence, that state legislatures are far better suited to
00:36:54.920 assess contested medical evidence and make a determination and make a policy decision that
00:36:59.960 that's that's how our democratic system works. And and I think Chief Justice Roberts reasoning that he
00:37:07.620 articulated at the oral argument is going to lead him to vote to uphold the law. I think we will see
00:37:14.140 I think we will certainly see Justice Alito and Justice Thomas and and Amy Coney Barrett and Kavanaugh
00:37:20.120 also their arguments at oral arguments suggested that they would that they would defer to the Tennessee
00:37:27.400 state legislature as well. I hope Justice Gorsuch will as well. I think there's a very good chance
00:37:33.980 that this will be a six three decision upholding the Tennessee law. But but the the fact that the court
00:37:42.620 decided Bostock the other way now Bostock was a question of federal statute and interpreting the words
00:37:49.860 Congress had adopted. It was not a constitutional case. It was not interpreting the equal protection
00:37:56.460 clause of the 14th Amendment. And I'll note, by the way, there is a third outcome. So what could the
00:38:02.620 Supreme Court do here? They could do three things. They could do more than three things, but three key
00:38:06.380 things. One, they could affirm the Tennessee law. That's what I think they are likely to do.
00:38:12.100 Two, they could strike down the Tennessee law. They could rule that this law violates the Constitution
00:38:17.820 and therefore is null and void. I do not think they're likely to do that. But I think the three
00:38:22.480 liberals will vote to do exactly that. The third option they could do is they could reverse the decision
00:38:30.000 and conclude that this law is sex discrimination. And under the Constitution, sex discrimination
00:38:36.800 is subject to what's called intermediate scrutiny. Now, the toughest standard constitutionally for
00:38:44.280 legal for legal analysis is what's called strict scrutiny and racial discrimination under the
00:38:50.540 Constitution by government is subject to strict scrutiny. Sex discrimination is subject to intermediate
00:38:57.060 scrutiny. So the middle ground they could do is they could vacate the decision below and send it
00:39:02.560 back to the lower court to apply intermediate scrutiny. I hope they don't do that, and I don't think
00:39:09.320 they will. But there is a non-zero chance they might do that, which is what makes this case
00:39:15.700 concerning. All of that being said, my prediction is they're going to conclude correctly that the
00:39:23.360 Tennessee law is constitutional, and that is a judgment for the state legislatures to make.
00:39:30.160 As I said before, this is why elections are so important. It's why it's so important that
00:39:34.200 conservatives get elected, because these are the people that make unbelievable decisions,
00:39:39.200 and it deals with kids' futures, and this is a perfect example of it. Don't forget, we do this show
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