Verdict with Ted Cruz - Qatar’s Billion‑Dollar Influence Machine, Clarence Thomas Challenges Progressivism & the Liberal Heckler’s Veto Playbook Week In Review

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00:00:04.320 Welcome. It is Verdict with Ted Cruz.

00:00:06.540 Weekend Review. Ben Ferguson with you.

00:00:08.420 And here are the stories that we talked about this week that you may have missed.

00:00:11.500 First up, Qatar spending serious money to hire PR firms in America to cover for them.

00:00:18.840 We expose it all.

00:00:20.560 Also, Senator Cruz talks about his new book.

00:00:23.300 And it's an incredible interview that he has done over hours

00:00:27.200 with Clarence Thomas, the Supreme Court Justice.

00:00:29.640 So what is the book about? We'll explain it.

00:00:32.420 And finally, law school students decided to not allow a fellow lawyer to actually speak on campus.

00:00:41.340 Should they have the chance to actually even become lawyers or ever sit on a bench as a judge?

00:00:47.340 We'll break that down for you as well.

00:00:49.460 It's the Weekend Review, and it starts right now.

00:00:52.560 I want to move to Qatar real quick, and that is another big story here.

00:00:56.640 Qatar is a country that's very interesting how they spend their money.

00:01:00.480 They certainly do it to influence our opinion of them as a nation.

00:01:04.860 That is something that's very important to them.

00:01:07.040 And they spend millions and millions and millions of dollars on our universities trying to gain favor,

00:01:11.920 to have people think of them in a positive light.

00:01:14.940 Qatar is now hiring PR firms, big ones in D.C.,

00:01:20.160 to help cover and to whitewash them right now with their support of terrorist activities in the Middle East. 0.57

00:01:26.840 Let's just expose that for everybody right now so you understand.

00:01:29.940 And plus, Qatar's been interesting because it also deals with our friend, a guy by the name of Tucker Carlson.

00:01:34.940 Yeah, look, Qatar is the number one foreign funder of U.S. universities.

00:01:40.480 More than China, by the way, which is something that is a point, a massive asterisk,

00:01:45.420 because China has also tried to buy a significant amount of influence in the U.S. and our universities as well. 0.57

00:01:50.160 And think about the size of China and compare it to Qatar, and that tells you just how important Qatar believes getting the minds of our kids and our colleges to look at them in some positive way.

00:02:03.700 Let's give you a sense of the scope.

00:02:06.500 The number one foreign donor to U.S. universities is Qatar.

00:02:10.140 Between 1986 and 2005, what do you think they've given?

00:02:15.420 I want to say billions. Is that too much?

00:02:17.540 $7.7 billion.

00:02:20.940 There you go.

00:02:22.040 You know how much they gave in 2025?

00:02:24.620 How much?

00:02:25.640 Over $1 billion.

00:02:27.060 They are flooding cash.

00:02:28.840 Number two is China.

00:02:30.920 Where do you think China is? 0.75

00:02:32.420 I'm going to guess a little bit below them,

00:02:35.460 but definitely close to a billion.

00:02:37.080 Well, in terms of the overall window,

00:02:39.920 I'll give you the 25 numbers in a second.

00:02:42.140 In terms of the window, 86 to present,

00:02:44.900 the total is $6.4 billion.

00:02:46.640 There you go.

00:02:48.460 The next ones are Saudi Arabia, the United Kingdom, Germany, and Canada.

00:02:52.900 Now, what about this last year?

00:02:57.000 The most recent disclosures from 2025 identify Qatar, over $1.1 billion.

00:03:02.980 The United Kingdom, over $633 million.

00:03:07.300 China, over $528 million.

00:03:10.380 Switzerland, over $451 million.

00:03:13.560 Japan, over $374 million.

00:03:16.640 Germany, over $292 million, and Saudi Arabia, over $285 million.

00:03:24.820 The top university recipients of those foreign funds in 2025 are Carnegie Mellon, almost a billion dollars,

00:03:33.120 MIT, almost a billion dollars, Stanford, over $775 million, and Harvard University, over $324 million.

00:03:43.140 And if you look at the entire window from 1986 to the end of 2025, Harvard University has disclosed that it has received more money from counterparties located in countries of concern, which are countries that are enemies of America, than any other institution of higher education totaling over $610 million.

00:04:06.340 And Harvard is followed by MIT, $490 million, NYU, $462 million, Stanford, $418 million, and Yale University, over $400 million.

00:04:19.080 By the way, translation, our universities are for sale to the people that hate America the most.

00:04:24.000 They are. And the list of those universities that receive the most money from the countries that hate us are almost exactly the list of the universities that had the worst anti-Semitic protest.

00:04:36.540 I mean, Qatar knows what it's getting. $7.7 billion ain't cheap.

00:04:43.720 And, you know, what is fascinating on this also is you look at all the countries that invest real money.

00:04:53.540 And if you look at that, the number one is Qatar, who, among other things, funds Hamas.

00:05:00.140 Do you know what country is not on the top 70 countries?

00:05:04.900 What is that?

00:05:06.220 Israel.

00:05:07.580 Yeah.

00:05:08.200 And I just want to say for all the knuckleheads online,

00:05:10.940 or it's like, oh, Israel runs everything. 0.71

00:05:12.660 Israel's paying for everything.

00:05:14.020 Israel's the money bags. 0.58

00:05:15.900 Yeah, they're buying influence, yeah. 1.00

00:05:17.680 It actually is really funny.

00:05:19.500 If you look at the list of countries,

00:05:21.300 I'm just going to read it in descending order

00:05:23.040 because I'm going to show you all the countries

00:05:24.400 that put more money in U.S. universities than Israel does.

00:05:28.020 Qatar, England, China, Saudi Arabia, Bermuda, Canada.

00:05:34.360 Bermuda.

00:05:34.820 Hong Kong, Japan, Switzerland, India, Germany, the United Arab Emirates, France, Singapore, Australia, Kuwait, Denmark, the Netherlands, Brazil, Sweden, South Korea, Spain, Norway, Thailand. 0.73

00:05:48.340 Oh, there is Israel. I'm sorry, I misspoke.

00:05:51.520 Israel falls right below Thailand and below even Bermuda. 0.86

00:05:56.800 There you go. 0.97

00:05:57.960 That's where they fall. And I separately jumped online on AI to ask, you know, just how, where does Israel rank as a foreign funder of U.S. universities? And the answer from Google AI, Israel is not a top tier foreign funder of U.S. universities by volume.

00:06:16.460 While Middle Eastern nations like Qatar and Saudi Arabia have donated billions, Israel's contributed significantly less, with estimates of roughly $300 million in donations over the past 25 years, often focused on specific research or academic partnerships.

00:06:31.300 And so it's just worth underscoring, because if you live in the twisted world of Twitter and Twitter comments, you think Israel's paying for everything.

00:06:43.320 Yeah. 0.54

00:06:43.620 Yeah. 0.98

00:06:43.820 You would think they'd be 10x Qatar or any other country.

00:06:47.600 So there's a reason Qatar has hired these two Washington PR firms.

00:06:51.720 So one of the firms, it's the Qatar Foundation, a state-run nonprofit that Doha uses to peddle influence in American higher education,

00:07:00.120 hired the Washington Media Group at a rate of $40,000 per month.

00:07:05.320 So good business to be a lobbyist to provide, quote, strategic communication support that enhance public understanding of its longstanding academic partnerships with U.S. universities located in Education City, Qatar, according to the firm's March 30th federal disclosure, registering it as a foreign agent.

00:07:25.160 the washington media group describes itself as quote a female female and minority-owned company

00:07:32.580 that crafts solutions to high-profile crises and protects and repairs reputations 0.99

00:07:38.380 its ceo and president and the agent listed on the contract with the cutter foundation

00:07:45.940 is a woman named crystal patterson who has a long history of running digital strategy and 0.73

00:07:51.800 communication for democrats such as hillary clinton ted kennedy and former rep tim ryan she

00:07:58.720 worked for the left-wing center for american progress focusing on quote immigration and

00:08:05.100 diversity policy according to her bio in other words immigration let in more anti-american 0.80

00:08:10.380 islamists who hate america so they then they can destroy america like sadly they're destroying 0.78

00:08:15.240 many of the countries um of europe she also is a graduate of northwestern university which boasts 1.00

00:08:21.220 a campus in Doha in Qatar that holds a contract with Qatar forbidding its students and faculty

00:08:29.440 from criticizing the Qatari regime. Let me repeat that. Northwestern has a campus in Qatar

00:08:38.220 that holds a contract with Qatar forbidding its students and faculties from criticizing the

00:08:45.860 Qatari regime. I mean, it makes sense. That's money well spent right there. Look, you can't

00:08:51.540 bite the hand that feeds you. The Qatar Foundation also retained the law firm Venable

00:08:57.600 at a monthly rate of $25,000 for government relations services, quote,

00:09:03.160 pertaining to the public profile of the foundation. Venable will, quote, help ensure

00:09:09.000 that members of Congress and the administration have an accurate understanding of Qatar Foundation's

00:09:14.280 support for education and its work with U.S. universities. You know what? The fact that they're

00:09:19.480 freaking out and hiring lobbyists is a good thing because people are on to them. By the way, these

00:09:24.620 are the same guys that host the leadership of Hamas in Qatar. They live like billionaires. They

00:09:29.440 live like kings. They fund Al Jazeera. They're spreading Islamist propaganda. They're supporting

00:09:36.260 the Muslim Brotherhood. They're spreading anti-American garbage. They're spreading 1.00

00:09:40.080 anti-Semitic garbage. They're funding 1.00

00:09:41.980 these violent radicals on

00:09:44.120 campuses, these communists

00:09:46.120 on campus. And I will say,

00:09:48.740 you know what Cutter also funded?

00:09:51.180 What's that?

00:09:52.480 Spies spying on me.

00:09:54.120 It's been publicly reported. They hired

00:09:56.000 spies. Look, they wanted to know

00:09:58.140 what you were doing, sir. Yeah, I gotta say

00:10:00.240 my life's pretty boring, so

00:10:01.600 if you want to see me

00:10:03.180 sitting at home at

00:10:05.760 what time is it? Midnight?

00:10:07.960 Yeah, it's it's it's one in the morning, sir. One in the morning. One in the morning.

00:10:12.180 They could have hired me for 50 grand. I would have told him what you were doing at one in the morning.

00:10:15.780 Doing vertical Ted Cruz. Yeah, no, it's it's really exciting.

00:10:19.540 There is, you know, Heidi and the girls are sound asleep and I'm in the room, sadly, not too far from the cat litter for for our cats that that Carolina doors. 0.92

00:10:30.320 So their spies, I think, are pretty bored right now.

00:10:33.220 Now, if you want to hear the rest of this conversation, you can go back and listen to

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00:11:11.340 Now on to story number two.

00:11:13.640 All right.

00:11:13.980 Last week, Clarence Thomas gave a speech at the University of Texas.

00:11:20.260 Yeah.

00:11:20.740 And the speech was positively magisterial.

00:11:23.500 In fact, I texted Justice Thomas and I told him, thank you.

00:11:26.380 That was an important speech.

00:11:28.220 It was beautifully done.

00:11:30.180 I want to play a minute of the speech so you can hear, because this really sort of encapsulates who he is.

00:11:38.740 I was proud of UT for inviting him.

00:11:41.620 I think the student body, those in attendance, were enraptured.

00:11:44.620 Give a listen to what Justice Thomas said last week in his speech at UT.

00:11:50.000 There isn't a single judge I know who does hard things because they get joy out of it.

00:11:57.780 they do hard things because they signed up to do hard things and they may not

00:12:03.220 agree with it and it may be difficult they may think it's not a great law but

00:12:08.880 their job as article 3 judges is to enforce the law to interpret it and to

00:12:14.660 apply it to that particular case when I first became a judge judge Larry

00:12:19.380 Silverman who's unfortunately passed away said ask yourself before each case

00:12:26.640 what is my role in this case as a judge notice how that limits you not as a person not as a

00:12:34.740 catholic not as a policymaker not as a husband as a judge and that is early on that required more

00:12:44.380 discipline more discipline uh yeah that's a great way of putting that from from clarence thomas

00:12:51.740 there. And you said earlier, being a kid in the audience at UT, getting to hear this conversation,

00:12:57.580 truly an incredible moment. And I will say when he's talking about being a judge and more

00:13:02.060 discipline, a lot of what I talk about in the book is his approach to being a judge. And it's

00:13:07.300 very much, look, his grandfather, he was raised by his grandfather. His grandfather worked him

00:13:13.020 hard. He worked. He worked delivering fuel oil. He worked on the farm. He helped build their home

00:13:19.840 on the farm. He worked his fingers literally bloody. His grandfather, during the bitter

00:13:27.620 cold of the winter, would not let Clarence Thomas wear gloves because he thought gloves

00:13:32.700 made you soft. He wanted to make him strong and tough and disciplined. And part of what

00:13:38.120 Clarence Thomas does. He did it, by the way. The school of hard knocks mentality behind

00:13:44.220 a lot of great men they had really tough people in their life that made them into great men and

00:13:50.780 that's an example of that well and and clarence thomas had enormous expectations on him and his

00:13:55.800 approach to being a justice there are a lot of justices who use much more highfalutin rhetoric

00:14:01.320 you look at clarence thomas opinions they're plain spoken they're very matter of fact that

00:14:06.340 they are designed so they can be read by every man so so they can and look he was growing up

00:14:12.900 in georgia with a lot of poor african-americans surrounding them many of whom were illiterate his

00:14:18.260 grandparents who raised him were were almost functionally illiterate they they had very

00:14:24.040 limited reading skills and so he tries to write his opinions in a way that they are accessible

00:14:29.180 they're straightforward and he approaches each opinion i i use the analogy in the book it's it's

00:14:34.860 like a carpenter it's like someone building a home he he lays the foundation he he frames the house

00:14:40.760 He does it piece after piece, trying to get to the truth.

00:14:44.720 And the title of the book, Going Further, if you look at 30-plus years of Clarence Thomas' time on the court,

00:14:51.120 his consistent theme is, we should go further.

00:14:54.760 That's a quote from his dissent in the Term Limits case.

00:14:57.980 But it is a theme that other great conservative justices would say, let's do X.

00:15:05.260 And he would say, no, let's go further.

00:15:08.080 And his focus is, let's get back to the original understanding of the Constitution.

00:15:12.120 Let's go all the way.

00:15:14.120 And the impact he has had has changed law profoundly.

00:15:18.800 And I want you to listen to him again at UT last week, talking about the importance of the Constitution,

00:15:25.980 but also the importance of the Declaration of Independence.

00:15:28.820 And I think Clarence Thomas emphasizes and highlights the Declaration more than any other justice.

00:15:34.380 Here, give a listen.

00:15:34.980 None of our rights come from the government.

00:15:41.940 All of the government's authority comes from our consent.

00:15:47.800 And the structure and limited role of government is to assure that it does not exceed the authority

00:15:55.400 to which we have consented or intrude on our natural rights.

00:16:02.100 The Constitution is the means of government.

00:16:06.040 It is the declaration that announces the ends of government.

00:16:10.780 The Constitution achieves its purpose by protecting our natural rights and our liberties from

00:16:19.020 concentrated power and excessive democracy.

00:16:23.600 Our Constitution creates a separation of powers and federalism, truly for the first time in

00:16:31.180 modern history to prevent the government from becoming so strong that it threatens our natural

00:16:39.480 rights he takes his time and that's one of the things he doesn't wing it he understands he's

00:16:47.240 not putting on a show yeah he's these words are deliberate and you can tell that he has

00:16:52.380 just an incredible amount of compassion and care for this country and i also think when you get a

00:16:59.040 little bit older, you probably are thinking about your legacy and what you're leaving behind. And

00:17:03.640 he clearly speaks that way to those students going, hey, I'm not always going to be here being a

00:17:07.960 shepherd. Somebody else is going to have to step forward and do this. And it may take a lot of

00:17:13.580 people to accomplish what he's done in his lifetime. Well, and I'll tell you again, in that

00:17:17.660 UT speech, he contrasts the principles of the Declaration of Independence, the principles of

00:17:22.360 the Constitution, the immutable principles upon which our country was founded. He contrasts them

00:17:28.900 with progressivism. And progressivism, I think, has been a poison that has led the United States

00:17:35.160 in a very dangerous direction. Listen to Justice Thomas drawing that contrast.

00:17:40.300 Progressivism seeks to replace the basic premises of the Declaration of Independence,

00:17:46.460 and hence our form of government. It holds that our rights and our dignities come not from God,

00:17:53.920 but from government. It requires of the people a subservience and weakness incompatible with a

00:18:02.480 constitution premised on the transcendent origin of our rights. Wow. I mean, wow. What else can

00:18:10.340 you say besides wow? And by the way, you might say, well, gosh, is progressivism really at war

00:18:17.760 with the principles of the Declaration of Independence? You may remember last year at

00:18:21.780 Senate Foreign Relations Committee, when Tim Kaine, Democrat from Virginia, was questioning

00:18:29.120 a nominee to the State Department, a President Trump nominee to the State Department, who had

00:18:33.820 written in his testimony that our rights come from God and not government. And Tim Kaine got

00:18:40.660 outraged, and he said, that is a radical statement. That is a dangerous statement. That is an extreme

00:18:45.760 statement. That is the kind of thing theocratic societies like Iran build believe. We don't 0.87

00:18:52.820 believe that. God doesn't give us our rights. Government does. And I walked in right as Tim

00:18:57.540 Kaine was saying this, and I had a whole line of questioning that I planned to go down on the

00:19:03.580 hearing, and I threw it all in the trash, and I spoke shortly after Tim Kaine. And I said, you

00:19:09.400 know, Tim Kaine said the idea that our rights come from God is a radical and dangerous and extreme

00:19:14.580 idea and he's right it is it also happens to be the founding principle upon which our nation

00:19:20.580 was created and and i said listen if you don't believe me maybe maybe you're you're inclined

00:19:26.140 you're you're politically left of center and you may be inclined not to believe me

00:19:29.640 if you don't maybe you might believe another virginian who wrote we hold these right we we

00:19:38.920 hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, and that they are endowed

00:19:45.040 by their creator, not by government, not by the DNC, but by God Almighty, with certain unalienable

00:19:54.860 rights that among these are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. That was, of course,

00:19:59.340 Thomas Jefferson. That was in the Declaration. That's what Justice Thomas is referring. And part

00:20:05.180 of what was so disturbing about tim kane so cavalierly dismissing the idea that our rights

00:20:11.760 come from god and instead insisting they come from government is tim kane and the democrat

00:20:17.840 party is not some crazy radical he's not bernie sanders he's not elizabeth warren

00:20:22.160 he was hillary clinton's vice presidential nominee he is about as mainstream a democrat

00:20:27.720 as you can find and it really shows how progressivism has suffused the democrat party

00:20:34.640 And I got to say, at UT last week also, Justice Thomas talked about the need to engage and engage in the fight for truth.

00:20:44.060 Here, give a listen.

00:20:45.300 I think if we don't stand up and take ownership of our country and take responsibility for it,

00:20:51.200 we are slowly letting others control how we think and what we think.

00:20:56.860 I think the beauty of going to school is that you learn how to think for yourself.

00:21:02.140 you develop the discipline to think things through you if you think it's

00:21:07.660 losing confidence then you get up and you participate you don't sit on the 0.99

00:21:12.220 sidelines you think that the cunt this it cut that the the state is being run 0.98

00:21:17.580 and inconsistent with how you feel then you get up and you participate you 0.97

00:21:22.220 prepare yourself if you think that the medical profession is not right well you

00:21:27.580 become a doctor or be a medical person and you deal with that i think we need to take ownership

00:21:35.300 of our country it's our country it's our country and and you know one of the things he said there

00:21:42.320 that was interesting is he said you know you go to school to learn how you know to figure out what

00:21:45.680 you believe and what you think and those type of things i i think the left and learn how to think

00:21:49.880 and learn how to think they think no no you come here so we can indoctrinate you yep and tell you

00:21:55.220 what to think and tell you what to say and tell you what to protest and tell you what to how to

00:22:00.920 act that is the difference between conservatism and liberalism on a college campus well let me

00:22:07.420 say this if you're a young person maybe you're in high school maybe you're in college maybe you're

00:22:13.440 a young professional maybe you're not that young anymore maybe you're in your 30s or your 40s or

00:22:18.420 50s or maybe you're 60 70 80 maybe you're in your 90s if you want a hero I think you could do a lot

00:22:29.320 worse than Clarence Thomas that's a great way of putting it he is someone look I spent the better

00:22:37.680 part of a year writing this book there's a lot of things to devote my time to the reason I wrote

00:22:44.580 this book is is i believe this book needed to be written his story needed to be told his

00:22:50.020 autobiography is great but it was written a long time ago and and a lot of people today haven't

00:22:55.400 read it and and his jurisprudence there have been other other books that have been written that have

00:23:00.940 been academic discussions of his jurisprudence and if you're a federal judge if you're a law

00:23:06.560 professor that can be useful but there's very little in terms of if you're just an american

00:23:12.280 who cares about our country, who cares about truth, there's very little that explains what

00:23:19.380 Clarence Thomas has stood for, what he said, what he's argued on the court. And this book,

00:23:25.120 I've tried to do so in a way that is fun, that is interesting, that's telling inside stories.

00:23:30.700 And so again, the website is goingfurther.com, goingfurther.com. I'd encourage you, if you're

00:23:36.420 listening to this podcast right now, if you're watching on YouTube, just click over on your

00:23:40.560 phone to goingfurther.com. Pre-order a copy, and, you know, you may even think about this will be

00:23:48.560 August if you have a child, if you have a grandchild, if you have a relative, you have a

00:23:54.000 friend. Birthday's coming up. Christmas is coming up. This book I wrote because I want people to

00:24:02.040 read it. I want people to read it because I think Clarence Thomas's life, his journey,

00:24:07.420 his principles his his commitment to truth and his courage as before if you want to hear the

00:24:16.040 rest of this conversation on this topic you can go back and download the podcast from early this

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00:24:52.000 to your podcasts i want to get back to the big story number three of the week you may have missed

00:24:58.360 uh there was a very interesting flashpoint that happened that was underreported or just not even

00:25:03.380 touch at UCLA with a conservative speaker that was coming to the law school.

00:25:09.680 And I want to be clear, I have no problem with protests on college campuses.

00:25:13.980 I think it's great.

00:25:14.780 That's outside.

00:25:15.780 Disrupting and silencing a conservative speaker or a liberal speaker in the venue, that is

00:25:21.540 completely different.

00:25:22.660 UCLA did nothing to, in essence, stop this from happening, silencing a conservative speaker.

00:25:27.800 And it's now gone viral on YouTube and on X.

00:25:32.060 thank goodness on social media. I want to get your reaction to this because it was preplanned

00:25:36.880 and UCLA, they didn't do enough to stop it at all. Well, listen, everyone has a right to protest.

00:25:42.940 You have a right to speak. But what you don't have a right to do is engage in what's called

00:25:47.340 the heckler's veto. You don't have a right to silence a speaker you disagree with.

00:25:51.940 And that's what the left does. The left is terrified of opposing views. They do this

00:25:56.480 frequently. So what happened, UCLA Law School invited a lawyer from the Department of Homeland

00:26:01.580 security to to come talk the federalist society at the law school did and leftists came and

00:26:07.320 deliberately disrupted the event and i gotta say this reminded me of an event that happened a

00:26:12.440 couple of years ago at stanford law school another california law school yeah where kyle duncan who

00:26:17.360 was a federal appellate judge from the fifth circuit spoke and you had law students who 0.96

00:26:22.440 screamed and yelled and and and said that they hoped that his daughters were raped i mean it

00:26:27.820 it was really twisted and and i gotta say look i'm i'm a lawyer i'm a law school graduate a 0.83

00:26:33.020 member member of the bar any lawyer if you're a member of the bar you number one have to pass

00:26:40.360 a character and fitness test and if you're in front of a judge i gotta tell you if you're a 0.99

00:26:45.860 lawyer and you scream and curse at the judge and say you hope that his daughter was raped

00:26:50.060 you will be held in contempt and go to jail like that is not compatible with actually being a

00:26:56.120 lawyer and so if you disagree with the views some speaker is saying you can protest outside you can

00:27:02.080 express your own views but you don't have the right to engage in in shouting them down attacking

00:27:10.860 silencing them preventing others from listening to those messages now i mentioned just a minute

00:27:18.300 ago my brand new book going further the incomparable clarence thomas by the way you

00:27:23.040 can order that book at goingfurther.com goingfurther.com the book i wrote before that

00:27:29.080 was entitled unwoke how to defeat cultural marxism in america and i mention that because

00:27:35.200 when i talk about colleges and universities i talk at length about what happened at stanford

00:27:40.480 what happened at stanford with this federal judge that was screamed and denounced by law students

00:27:46.880 well you know what happened a couple things happened number one at stanford when this

00:27:52.320 happened the administrator from stanford law school came in now she could have said all right

00:27:56.960 enough you don't get to silence the speaker you can express your own views but you don't get to

00:28:02.200 prevent the students from hearing the views of this federal judge she didn't do that instead

00:28:06.860 she gave this long pre-written speech agreeing with the hecklers and protesters and attacking 0.82

00:28:12.320 the judge and saying the juice is not worth the squeeze now amazingly stanford law school fired her

00:28:20.100 because of what she did there and not only that i wrote a letter i wrote a letter to the chief

00:28:26.920 justice of the texas supreme court i said look these are law students that want to be lawyers

00:28:31.960 some of them maybe want to be lawyers in texas part of being a lawyer is character and fitness

00:28:37.000 the ability to appear in a court and not scream and yell and curse at a judge these law students

00:28:42.300 have demonstrated they're unwilling to do so and i called on the texas supreme court

00:28:46.200 to inquire of any graduates of Stanford Law School over the relevant time period,

00:28:52.320 did you participate in screaming and cursing and shouting down a federal judge?

00:28:58.520 And if you did, we're not going to admit you as a member of the Texas bar

00:29:01.660 because that's not how lawyers are allowed to behave in front of judges.

00:29:05.900 And the Texas Supreme Court did exactly that.

00:29:10.000 They said because the law schools are not enforcing the rules,

00:29:13.640 are not protecting free speech we the state of texas are going to do so

00:29:18.160 i gotta say as i look at what happened at ucla that makes a lot of sense here and i want you

00:29:24.040 to listen listen to these students when the lawyer from the department of homeland security began

00:29:29.460 speaking

00:29:29.920 today's speaker is brought to us by the ucla chapter of the federal society

00:29:38.940 First of all, thank you for having me.

00:29:50.660 You're welcome.

00:29:51.660 My parents actually met at UCLA, which was in California, where you just, you know,

00:29:58.260 they, you know, they, you know, they started telling you to go read case law, and then

00:30:01.500 you find you in the middle of office, and I kind of, you know, they taught me very well.

00:30:05.020 Most of the time, as you'll find here,

00:30:06.700 anyone who is coming in a meeting is paying a significant change in the country.

00:30:13.140 And they typically don't have the cash for it.

00:30:16.000 So typically what happens is they will basically agree,

00:30:21.020 the cartels will help them enter,

00:30:22.820 and then they will get to their final destination

00:30:24.620 and be responsible for paying off the debt.

00:30:26.520 I mean, so when you're in a situation where you're working...

00:30:32.180 You look at this, and some of these that are up there,

00:30:35.020 just so people on radio and listening on the podcast they're holding up signs some of these

00:30:40.400 kids after booing with f-bombs and other things in the face of this speaker and these are not

00:30:47.820 these are not just random kids these are people that are in law school and they're playing their

00:30:53.320 phones they're holding up their phones and making noises to shut down the speaker so so the noises

00:30:58.660 you heard there are are they're holding up their phones and they did this throughout the speech and

00:31:04.280 this is an example if you disagree with the speaker although i'll point out they don't even

00:31:09.200 know if they disagree with the speaker because they didn't actually listen to what he had to say

00:31:12.860 but if you disagree with the southern poverty law center was paying for part of this

00:31:16.520 you know that's not a crazy question i mean i mean seriously this is the type of stuff they

00:31:21.840 would sponsor and pay for look the amazing thing about leftists is they're so angry and they're not

00:31:29.960 willing to actually confront substance so all right let's say you're a ucla liberal and and

00:31:37.060 you don't like the trump administration's immigration policy okay yeah you could lay

00:31:42.080 out your view of why you think you should have a different policy but you don't see anyone there

00:31:47.880 confronting was 12 million people invading this country over the four years of biden a good thing

00:31:53.100 was the biden administration releasing thousands of murderers and rapists and child molesters and

00:31:59.500 drunk drivers and gangbangers a good thing they don't address that because those are actual facts

00:32:04.440 those are actual facts that resulted in americans being murdered being assaulted and women being

00:32:11.020 raped and children being raped that they don't want to engage in that i'm perfectly fine if these

00:32:16.520 leftists want to go have a protest outside and say we love open borders invade our country which 0.90

00:32:22.560 sadly seems to be the view of the leftist but they're not actually engaging in ideas they're

00:32:28.780 trying to use oppression if you disagree with someone respond with reason and logic don't

00:32:37.100 respond with bullying and force and and and essentially trying to stifle free speech and

00:32:46.820 where the hell was the administration of ucla why was there no administrator there saying no

00:32:52.680 you don't get to to shut this event down just because you disagree as always thank you for

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