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Verdict with Ted Cruz
- February 14, 2025
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This is an iHeart Podcast.
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Guaranteed human.
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Welcome to Verdict with Ted Cruz.
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This is Ted Cruz.
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I hope you're having a wonderful Valentine's Day.
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I hope you find the love of your life and give them a hug,
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give them a kiss, and let them know they mean the world to you.
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Unfortunately today, Ben is sick in bed with a nasty flu.
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So rather than do our normal pod,
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what we're going to do is we're going to rebroadcast our Christmas Day pod.
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And the Christmas Day pod was one, it's one of my favorites.
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It recounted some of my favorite movies,
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some of the movies I enjoy watching the most.
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I am a movie guy.
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I love movies.
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I've loved movies my whole life.
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And so I hope today on Valentine's Day, you listen to the pod, you enjoy it,
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maybe go out and watch a movie and take your wife or husband or boyfriend or girlfriend
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and have a great time at the movies, and we will see you.
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We'll do our regular Week in Review tomorrow on Saturday,
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and Ben and I will both be back.
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God willing, the creek don't rise on Monday morning.
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Enjoy.
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By the way, you're a movie theater guy, just so people know this.
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Oh, I like the real theaters.
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I like the big screen.
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I like popcorn and gummy bears and, you know, the experience of being there.
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And by the way, I'm also rabid about staying until the very end,
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until the last moment of the credits play.
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I will not get up and leave.
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There's a sense of completeness of appreciating the entirety of the movie.
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And so what we decided we'd do today is put together just a compilation of movies
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that I love, that I recommend to you.
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And hopefully as you're taking some time with your family,
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maybe you'll go watch one of them and laugh or cry,
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and it'll touch you, and you'll enjoy it.
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And I think art and storytelling are beautiful, beautiful things.
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So with that being said, here are the big shows and the big movies
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on Senator Cruz's list.
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Merry Christmas.
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I get asked all the time from many of you guys that are watching or listening right now,
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what is Ted Cruz like behind the scenes?
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So we thought we'd have a little fun.
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I'm going to ask him some questions.
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And you're even going to find out what his favorite movies are.
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Senator, we're going to have a little fun.
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I get asked all the time when I'm all over the country.
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It happened this last week in New York.
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So what is Ted Cruz really like behind the scenes?
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And I say, I actually, if people got to see the side of you that I know,
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you're actually really fun to be around.
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You're also a huge movie buff as well.
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And so I'm going to ask some fun questions just to kind of let people know
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behind the curtain who you really are.
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So let's start with this.
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What is the last thing you watched on a plane?
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What is the last thing I watched on a plane was Outer Banks, which is a series.
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It's a teeny bopper series.
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And it's phenomenal.
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I am in the middle of season three.
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And there's a reason I'm watching a teeny bopper series,
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which is my youngest daughter, Catherine, loves Outer Banks.
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She's at camp right now.
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Yep.
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And when I dropped her off at camp, she said, Dad, I want you to watch Outer Banks
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and I want you to write to me in letters and tell me what you think as the season's progressing.
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And so I've been regularly, I write to her about every couple of days and I tell her,
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OK, here's where I am.
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I'm at this point.
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I'm at this point.
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This character just died.
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Who's your favorite character?
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JB.
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Yeah, mine too.
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No doubt about it.
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So she asked me that.
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I'm a little troubled.
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Her favorite character is JJ, who is kind of a, look, I guess if you're a 13-year-old
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girl, he's, you know, he's always doing the dumbest thing imaginable, but he's kind of
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a, I like John B. John B. is a good character.
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It's such a fun show.
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So when you were growing up, what was it that you were watching?
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High school, college?
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By the way, spoiler alert.
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I apologize if you haven't seen it.
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I'm going to give a spoiler alert right now.
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So just fast forward through this if you don't want a spoiler alert.
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But in season two, when Ward is blown up, I knew Ward was not blown up.
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And so I wrote her.
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I said, yeah, Ward just died.
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I'm very confident he's alive.
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And I remembered they keep scuba gear in the boat.
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He got in the scuba gear.
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And then like seven episodes later.
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It's like Encyclopedia Brown books.
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Remember those?
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There you go.
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You got to figure it out.
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And you're like, they got to keep the series going.
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So I felt pretty good that I was at least a step ahead of the Teenie Bopper series.
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I like that.
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So what were you watching in high school?
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Like, what were your favorite shows?
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What was your favorite movie growing up?
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So look, I love movies.
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My parents loved movies.
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Like, we would, you know, this is what we do.
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So every holiday, every Thanksgiving, every Christmas, my family would go out and watch movies.
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Is Die Hard a Christmas movie?
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Of course it is.
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Okay, good.
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Absolutely, yes.
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There's only one right answer.
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Okay, good.
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Die Hard is absolutely a Christmas movie.
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But we would go out and do movies when I was a kid.
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When I was like eight, nine years old, my dad would drop me off at the theater all Saturday.
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And I'd watch like five movies.
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I'd go from one theater to the next to the next and just watch everything there.
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It's, we all love movies.
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So what I've done today for this show is I put together a list of 25 movies.
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Now, this is not exclusive.
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This is not the only 25 movies I like.
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And I don't even know that it's my 25 favorite, but it's 25 awesome movies, which if you haven't watched, I recommend you watch.
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You will enjoy them, you will laugh, you will be moved, you will get good things from them.
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So let's go through the 25.
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I've got to ask one more question before you're 25.
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What movie have you watched the most in your life over and over again?
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Well, that actually happens to be number one on the list.
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I knew it.
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I like this.
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So my favorite movie of all time is The Princess Bride.
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Really?
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I love The Princess Bride.
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Why?
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I think every character in it is exquisite.
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Every line from every character is fantastic.
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I'll tell you, in college, we used to play a game called Drinking Princess Bride.
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And so the way you play Drinking Princess Bride is you sit down with a bunch of college kids, you put the movie on,
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and you try to say each line immediately before it's said.
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If you get it right, you point at somebody they have to drink.
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If you screw it up even slightly, you drink.
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And if two or more people say the same line at the same time, everybody drinks.
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So when you get to the As You Wishes...
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So this is why you were so sober in college.
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Now I understand it.
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Look, when you get to the As You Wishes, everyone can get them so they're all socials.
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And it is a fun game.
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My problem is I know just about every line from the movie, but I'll screw them up slightly.
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So I end up kind of getting myself because I try an awful lot of them.
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But it is an exquisite movie.
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I probably watched The Princess Bride, I don't know, a couple hundred times.
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No way.
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Yeah.
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It is fantastic.
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So that's number one on your list.
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Far and away.
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Number two on my list is The Godfather Saga.
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Couldn't agree with you more.
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One of the best series ever made, period.
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And I'm not going to break it down between one, two, and three.
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I even like three, which is a bit of a heretical idea.
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I think three stands on its own as its own movie the least.
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That three only makes sense in conjunction with one and two.
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Which is when you're in the club.
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I kind of like that.
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Like you can't fake it and go see number three and think, oh, that was incredible.
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You have to be in it.
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And look, I quote all of them all the time, you know, from three.
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Every time I get out, they keep pulling me back in.
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I will say it was a little depressing with my team where I turned, you know, Senate staffers are all children.
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You know, your average.
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You should put that on a T-shirt.
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Your average Senate staffer is like 23, 24, 25.
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So things like Godfather quotes, they just don't get.
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And so I said something.
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I said, you know, this is the business we have chosen.
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And like everyone looked at me confused.
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And I said, okay, I have like six staffers there.
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I said, all right, do any of you have any idea what I'm saying?
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They're all like, no, no, no.
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I said, okay, this is Godfather II.
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And this is a conversation between Hyman Roth, who is clearly modeled after Meyer Lansky.
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Hyman Roth and Michael Corleone, and they're down in Miami.
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And Hyman Roth goes, Michael, I had a friend.
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I had a friend since childhood.
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Mo Green was his name.
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And one day somebody put a bullet in his eye.
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I did not ask who was responsible.
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I did not seek retribution.
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I said, this is the business we have chosen.
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None of them had any idea what I was talking about.
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Team building night in the Senate.
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You should totally bring them in one, two, and three.
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Just nine hours.
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We're going to sit down.
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Yeah, this is what you're going to do.
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That's team building 101.
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Monday, Tuesday, Thursday, Wednesday.
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There you go.
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All right.
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Favorite line from any of the Godfathers.
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The best one.
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Mine's a cannoli.
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Leave the gun.
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Take the cannoli.
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Yeah.
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No brainer.
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Number three on your list.
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Scarface.
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Really?
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Oh, I love me some Scarface.
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Why?
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Notice Pacino has two spots in my top three.
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I've seen a theme here.
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I like Pacino.
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Okay.
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I love crime movies.
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And look, Scarface, Tony Montana.
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He's Cuban.
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I'm Cuban.
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It's, you know, it is larger than life.
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I can quote a lot of lines from it.
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To be honest, I'm not going to because they're pretty off color and I'm going to avoid putting
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out on the podcast some of the language from it.
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But it is.
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So crime genre is your thing.
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And I like Pacino.
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Yeah, he's amazing.
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So my favorite TV show is Criminal Minds.
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I love Criminal Minds.
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I'm actually shocked by that one because if there was only one box that I could take
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with me my whole life, like if I was stuck on a desert island, it'd be West Wing.
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West Wing is fabulous.
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I've watched every episode of West Wing.
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I've watched every episode of Criminal Minds.
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But Criminal Minds is, I just find it fascinating.
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Heidi hates it, by the way.
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When Criminal Minds is on, she's like, turn that garbage off because, you know, you've got
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evil, vicious murderers.
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I'm like, no, no, they're the bad guys, though.
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It's all about stopping them.
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But she just doesn't like that in the house.
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All right.
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Number four.
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Fletch.
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Fletch.
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Never seen it.
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You've never seen Fletch.
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Never in my life.
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Okay, Ben, go home tonight.
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What's it about?
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And watch Fletch.
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It may be the funniest movie ever made.
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Really?
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Chevy Chase plays Erwin Fletcher, an undercover investigative reporter.
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It is absolutely hysterical.
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I love Chevy Chase.
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It's Chevy Chase's best movie.
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Much better than Lampoon's Vacation.
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Much better than, and he's done a ton.
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I love Chevy Chase.
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But Fletch is head and shoulders above them all.
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You know Grant, who heads up my security detail.
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Grant and I quote Fletch lines back and forth at each other every week.
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Really?
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Put it on the list.
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It is go and watch the movie.
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I've never seen it.
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It is spectacular.
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All right, Fletch.
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I'm on it.
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All right.
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Number five.
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Amazing Grace.
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Also never seen it?
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A lot of people have not seen it, but it is a very good, it is the true story of William
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Wilberforce.
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Now, William Wilberforce was a member of parliament in the United Kingdom who led the effort to abolish
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the slave trade.
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Very cool.
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Is it a true story?
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It's a true story.
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And Wilberforce, so when he started as a young MP, the slave trade was the United Kingdom's
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single greatest source of revenue.
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It was their business.
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And he begins as this young MP arguing, we must end the slave trade.
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It is wrong.
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It is immoral.
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And everyone laughs at him.
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And it would be like if you were in Texas standing up saying, we should ban oil and gas.
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I mean, it was that absurd of an idea back then.
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And he spends 50 years battling for it.
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And the movie ends with him successfully championing and passing the legislation, abolishing the
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slave trade and shutting down their most lucrative business because it was evil.
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And by the way, the title Amazing Grace, you know where it comes from?
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What?
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So the person who wrote the hymn Amazing Grace was a friar who had been the former captain
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of a slave ship.
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Really?
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He was the captain of a slave ship.
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And think of the words of the song Amazing Grace.
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Amazing Grace, how sweet the sound that saved a wretch like me.
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I once was lost, but now am found.
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Was blind, but now I see.
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And imagine the person writing that.
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In that context.
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Was the captain of a slave ship.
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Presumably he had murdered people.
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He had beaten people.
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He had whipped people.
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I mean, you think of the evil entailed in being the captain of a slave ship.
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And then the amazing grace that God offered redemption, even in the face of the horrific
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evil, it puts a whole different character.
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The book is by Eric Metaxas, who's a fantastic author, Christian author, does great biographies.
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I highly recommend Amazing Grace.
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Number six, Unforgiven.
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Never seen it.
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Oh, Unforgiven is fiction.
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This is why it makes me laugh when we get to do shows like this, because I mean, I will
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go watch these now.
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Okay.
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So Unforgiven, best Western ever made.
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Won the Academy Award for best picture.
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Clint Eastwood is in it.
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I could I could do an age joke here.
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Was it in black and white?
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No, no, no, no.
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It was actually late Eastwood.
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You were actually out of diapers when it came out.
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Okay.
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Gotcha.
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Morgan Freeman is in it.
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Gene Hackman is in it.
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Gene Hackman is spectacular.
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What's interesting about Unforgiven that is so powerful is it turns all of the stereotypes
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of the Western on its head.
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So, for example, Clint Eastwood plays this outlaw who had turned over a good leaf and
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was good and then was going back, gets hired.
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What happens is a woman who is a prostitute is badly cut up by a drunk cowboy and they put
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out a reward to kill the cowboy who cut her up.
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And Clint Eastwood, as this retired outlaw, needs the money and so is coming to collect
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the reward.
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And Morgan Freeman, his partner, comes with him.
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But there's a point where Clint Eastwood, you know, there's a young kid who wants to be
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a gunslinger and he's like practicing on shooting fast.
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And like Clint Eastwood says, well, you know, for me, this is about as fast as I can draw
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my gun, point it, aim at it, pull the trigger and hit what I'm aiming at.
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And he said in most firefights, people are scared out of their mind and they're just terrified
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and whoever can kind of calmly engage is who wins.
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And there's scenes where like everyone's like, oh crap, and they shoot their foot and they
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drop their gun and they're like freaking out and he kind of, and he would just get
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drunk and just sort of systematically bang.
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And it, it really did invert many of the, the conventional wisdom of being a fast draw
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on everything else.
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And Gene Hackman's character is hysterical.
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It is, he's the sheriff who initially you think might be the hero, but he very quickly
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becomes an anti-hero.
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So excellent movie.
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Number eight, Team America.
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I've actually seen it.
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Hilarious.
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Okay.
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And I'm going a little edgy.
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So Team America, Team America, World Police.
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It's a puppet movie.
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I remember when it came out and everybody was in shock, but I was dying laughing.
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So Heidi doesn't like movies very much.
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I took Heidi to see it.
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She almost fell to the floor laughing.
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So she, y'all clicked on that one.
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It is screamingly funny.
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Now it makes fun of both sides.
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It makes fun of Republicans, Democrats.
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Everybody.
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It's the guys who do South Park who did it.
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It is puppets.
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They are truly equal opportunity offenders.
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It is.
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Now I'm going to give a warning.
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Every third word is a profanity.
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If you're offended by profanity, skip this suggestion.
00:16:17.780
I will say when we were fairly newlyweds, we went on vacation with Heidi's parents down
00:16:23.120
at Lake Powell, which is fabulous.
00:16:25.000
And we brought it with us.
00:16:27.600
And we sort of, like Heidi and I remember, this is really, really funny.
00:16:30.920
And I think we didn't quite remember that every third word is a profanity.
00:16:34.800
And I'm sitting there with Heidi's parents as we're listening to the blinkity blink, blink,
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blink, blink, blink, blink.
00:16:40.980
We didn't finish the movie.
00:16:42.340
Like 10 minutes into it, we just turned it off.
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Heidi, I can't believe you brought this in front of your parents, right?
00:16:46.620
Yeah.
00:16:47.220
It was, but it's still funny as all get it.
00:16:50.300
All right.
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Next movie, Patton.
00:16:52.940
Yep.
00:16:53.380
Amazing.
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Amazing movie.
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I've watched Patton probably five, six times in my life.
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All right.
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Do you know what I did before every Supreme Court argument I ever did?
00:17:01.980
Well, I can figure it out now.
00:17:03.360
You watched Patton.
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Not the whole thing.
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Just which scene?
00:17:06.180
The opening speech.
00:17:06.960
Okay, yeah.
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Just the opening speech.
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George C. Scott in front of the gigantic flag standing up and saying, men, the objective
00:17:15.520
is not to give your life for your country.
00:17:18.040
The objective is to make that other poor son of a bitch give his life for his country.
00:17:23.620
I mean-
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I can dig that.
00:17:24.860
I can dig that.
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It is-
00:17:27.080
Sound advice.
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If you can watch that speech and not be inspired, you're dead.
00:17:31.800
Yeah.
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Like it is-
00:17:33.320
See, those are my weakness movies.
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I love true stories.
00:17:36.660
I love good versus evil movies.
00:17:39.400
I absolutely love sports movies as well.
00:17:41.280
But there's always usually a big speech in those.
00:17:43.100
By the way, a buddy of mine collects historical military equipment and clothing.
00:17:48.040
And uniforms.
00:17:49.040
And he has Patton's dog tags.
00:17:51.340
No way.
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And I actually have worn Patton's dog tags.
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They have rested on my bare chest.
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And I literally felt like I was ready to pull out a pistol and start shooting in an airplane.
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Like it made you think about that that actually rested right above the heart of Patton.
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That's incredible.
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Pretty wild.
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That's a good thing to own.
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All right.
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Next movie, The Sting.
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Classic.
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Have you seen The Sting?
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You've never seen The Sting?
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I don't even know what it's about.
00:18:17.540
Oh.
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Oh, Benjamin.
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Benjamin.
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Benjamin.
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The Sting.
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All-time classic.
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Robert Redford.
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Paul Newman.
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They're con men.
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It is-
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This is where I can really mess with me.
00:18:28.440
Wait.
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Newman does something outside of like Salsa?
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Like it.
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It is hysterical.
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It is beautifully done.
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Go and watch this.
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And what's it about?
00:18:36.500
It's about con men.
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Okay.
00:18:38.160
And it's worth watching.
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I've probably watched it a hundred times.
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No way.
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It's such a good movie.
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All right.
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Next movie, Awakenings.
00:18:47.520
Yes.
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I've seen that.
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Once.
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Only once.
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So Awakenings is fabulous.
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Robert De Niro.
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You're a De Niro fan.
00:18:54.440
I like De Niro a lot.
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Not a fan of his politics, but a big fan of his acting.
00:18:58.140
He's a great actor.
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Although as much, De Niro got all the acclaim, but I actually thought Robin Williams stole the show.
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Well, I love Robin Williams, so this is right up my alley.
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Robin Williams is one of my all-time favorite actors ever.
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I mean, he's an incredible comedic actor.
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So you're going to laugh.
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I was asked the question if you could have dinner with like any five people who would be at your table, living or alive or dead.
00:19:20.640
I had Robin Williams for years in my list because I think he's just one of the most brilliant actors and genuinely funny human beings.
00:19:27.280
So when Robin Williams passed, I genuinely cried.
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And I wrote a long statement about Robin Williams on Facebook that I put up.
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But it just I hammered it out of my iPad because he he is so funny.
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His stand-up.
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If you've ever watched his stand-up routine on golf.
00:19:43.560
Yeah.
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Oh, I've watched it a hundred times.
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The one on golf is, again, profane, language warning.
00:19:48.320
But as funny as anything that has ever been said, like screamingly funny, Awakenings, the portrayal he gives.
00:19:55.700
I actually like Robin Williams even better in dramatic performances than comedy.
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And he's one of the funniest human beings ever alive.
00:20:04.060
So Awakenings.
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Put it on the list.
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Yes, fabulous.
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All right.
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The next two I view together.
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Braveheart and Gladiator.
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Both amazing.
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No brainers.
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Incredible.
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Mel Gibson, Russell Crowe, right?
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Yes.
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Back to back.
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How can you get that wrong?
00:20:22.160
And both standing and fighting and fighting against oppression.
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And they're epic, epic movies.
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Again, if you're not inspired by them, you're dead.
00:20:34.640
Yeah.
00:20:34.780
I will say, Mike Lee, there's an app where you can put yourself, you speaking, into an audio clip.
00:20:47.380
And he and I used to send things back and forth.
00:20:49.440
And, you know, at the end when Mel Gibson is being executed, he screams, Freedom!
00:20:57.480
So Mike would send me videos of him screaming to Mel Gibson's voice, Freedom.
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It was pretty powerful.
00:21:05.480
All right.
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Next.
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Beverly Hills Cop.
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Hands down, one of the funniest movies ever.
00:21:11.980
Just screamingly funny.
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Eddie Murphy.
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So you're going to laugh.
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I consider that a Christmas movie because it's like days off.
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I want to watch the classic.
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I watch that.
00:21:20.140
It is every moment of it.
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Eddie Murphy remains one of my favorite actors of all times.
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He's got a new one coming out, a sequel coming out on Amazon.
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I think it's on Amazon Prime.
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Did you see that recently?
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I just saw it this last week.
00:21:33.940
I don't know which one it was, but they were teasing it.
00:21:35.620
Yes.
00:21:35.820
They're doing a Beverly Hills Cop 2.
00:21:38.160
Okay.
00:21:38.440
Is that what it is?
00:21:39.000
Or 3.
00:21:39.620
Yeah.
00:21:40.160
But look, the original Beverly Hills Cop is screamingly funny.
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And I actually have three Eddie Murphy movies in a row because I love Eddie Murphy.
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Beverly Hills Cop.
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Trading Places.
00:21:51.660
Yes.
00:21:52.140
And Coming to America.
00:21:53.020
So Coming to America was one of the first movies that was like really edgy that I remember
00:21:57.500
like in my adolescence seeing.
00:21:59.940
Hilarious.
00:22:00.660
Again, screamingly funny.
00:22:02.940
And Eddie Murphy and Arsenio Hall and they play multiple characters and all the different,
00:22:06.600
you know, in the barbershop when you have Eddie Murphy and Arsenio Hall going back and
00:22:10.320
forth.
00:22:10.640
I mean, it's amazing.
00:22:12.520
And you know what?
00:22:13.060
They probably wouldn't let you make that movie today.
00:22:14.940
No, they would not.
00:22:15.700
No way.
00:22:16.180
It gets racially edgy in a way that like now, you know, the woke world.
00:22:20.780
No, no, no.
00:22:21.020
You can't laugh about that.
00:22:21.980
Cancer culture would be all over that.
00:22:22.360
No, no, no.
00:22:22.720
You can't have any of that humor.
00:22:25.300
By the way, you want funny humor.
00:22:27.840
Go back to young Eddie Murphy on SNL when he was like 19 years old.
00:22:33.420
Brilliant and edgy.
00:22:34.140
And just edgy, comedic, like brilliance.
00:22:38.340
I love, he's by far my favorite character ever on SNL was young Eddie Murphy because
00:22:44.220
it was just so funny.
00:22:46.020
I like it.
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Mine's Farley, by the way.
00:22:48.440
Look, he was, he was great and he put his hole into it.
00:22:52.300
Yeah.
00:22:53.220
I mean, I also love.
00:22:55.280
Fat man in a little jacket.
00:22:56.580
It's unbelievable.
00:22:57.400
That man down by the river.
00:22:58.820
I mean, but I also love like comedy when there's people falling over and he could do that
00:23:03.700
His physical comedy was really strong.
00:23:05.040
His physical comedy was incredible.
00:23:06.300
Yep.
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All right.
00:23:07.340
Next on the list, Wall Street.
00:23:09.620
Yep.
00:23:10.260
Just all time Gordon Gekko.
00:23:12.580
Oh, yeah.
00:23:13.080
One of the great all time classics.
00:23:15.200
By the way, a line that I quote frequently, Gordon Gekko is in the locker room getting cleaned
00:23:21.800
up after playing racquetball and he turns to Charlie Sheen and he goes, I'm on the board
00:23:29.840
of the Bronx Zoo.
00:23:31.240
Cost me a million bucks.
00:23:32.420
That's the thing about wasps, love animals, hate people.
00:23:38.120
There's some insight there.
00:23:39.580
There is some insight there for sure.
00:23:41.740
Hidden Figures.
00:23:43.220
Yes.
00:23:44.040
Wonderful movie.
00:23:46.160
Incredible movie about the African-American female mathematicians who were foundational
00:23:52.320
to America going to the moon.
00:23:55.020
And for me, there are two kind of personal reasons why that movie is significant to me.
00:24:00.520
One, it's got to be because of Houston.
00:24:02.420
Well, when we went to see the movie, I took my mother to the movie.
00:24:05.740
I took Heidi to the movie.
00:24:06.660
I took both my daughters to the movie.
00:24:08.940
And it was interesting.
00:24:10.100
My girls, it was the first time they'd seen a movie that had segregation.
00:24:13.780
Yeah.
00:24:13.940
The bathroom is the most, one of the most iconic scenes in that whole movie.
00:24:17.100
And it led to, I had a long conversation with both of them and they were like, well, why
00:24:21.240
would people have done that?
00:24:22.380
And to talk about segregation and civil rights and just sort of walk through the history of
00:24:27.000
it, it prompted really good conversations with my girls.
00:24:30.440
But secondly, so my mom, my mom graduated from Rice in 1956 and she had a math degree and
00:24:40.660
she went to work as a computer programmer at Shell.
00:24:43.540
She subsequently went to work at the Smithsonian.
00:24:47.220
And you remember the movie Hidden Figures begins with Sputnik being launched and sort of the
00:24:52.540
space race being beginning.
00:24:54.760
One of my mother's first assignments at the Smithsonian was to help compute the orbits
00:25:00.060
of Sputnik.
00:25:00.660
And, and so in front of the girls, I asked my mom, I said, mom, you were doing this.
00:25:06.700
And in fact, you were doing it 10 years earlier.
00:25:08.440
You were doing it in the fifties.
00:25:10.080
Hidden Figures is set in the sixties.
00:25:11.760
And I said, how accurate is it?
00:25:14.200
And my mother thought it was very accurate, that it did a really good job of conveying what
00:25:18.980
it was like to be a woman in, in space and science and, and a technical environment.
00:25:25.460
And I commented to her, I said, okay, one of the strange things to a more modern ear is
00:25:35.840
that they referred to the women there as computers.
00:25:38.440
Yeah.
00:25:38.740
And we think of a computer as a piece of metal.
00:25:41.440
But they were actually called computers because they were actually doing the math.
00:25:44.920
And my mother started laughing at me and she said her first job title was computer.
00:25:50.760
And when she started at Shell, she had a business card that said Eleanor Dara computer.
00:25:56.000
No way.
00:25:56.800
And so in response to that, I introduced legislation to rename the street in front of NASA headquarters
00:26:05.800
Hidden Figures Way.
00:26:07.400
And this is actually a really cool story.
00:26:09.160
I introduced that legislation before it could pass and we would have gotten it passed.
00:26:14.660
But a DC city councilman saw that legislation and said, you know what?
00:26:18.360
That's a great idea.
00:26:19.820
And the DC city councilman introduced it in the DC city council.
00:26:23.620
The guy's a Democrat.
00:26:24.520
Yeah.
00:26:24.780
And he got it passed.
00:26:26.060
So the DC city council passes it.
00:26:28.180
That's cool.
00:26:28.880
So I went to the street sign dedication and that is the street sign there.
00:26:32.660
And I was there.
00:26:33.300
I spoke at the dedication.
00:26:33.960
And where is it?
00:26:34.920
It is the headquarters of NASA in DC.
00:26:37.280
In DC.
00:26:37.720
Okay, cool.
00:26:38.340
And so NASA, the address of NASA is One Hidden Figures Way.
00:26:42.120
That's awesome.
00:26:42.600
So I spoke at the dedication.
00:26:44.060
The DC city councilman spoke and he's a Democrat.
00:26:46.160
I'm a Republican.
00:26:46.680
And I told the story of my mom, which was really cool to get to tell.
00:26:51.460
And I said, look, at some level, you might say, listen, the street sign's not that big
00:26:55.560
a deal.
00:26:56.520
That one is.
00:26:57.140
But at another level, you know, 50 years from now, 100 years from now, some little girl,
00:27:02.280
some little boy is going to come visit NASA and they're going to look up and see the
00:27:06.120
street sign and they're going to say, hey, what does that mean?
00:27:09.140
Yeah.
00:27:09.600
And they're going to hear the story of the pioneering African-American women who were the mathematicians
00:27:16.340
that got us to the moon.
00:27:17.560
And so it's where movies and stories are powerful.
00:27:21.560
Did any of the characters of the movie, did any of them get to come to that?
00:27:25.160
That they did.
00:27:25.600
They had passed by the time we did that.
00:27:27.420
So no.
00:27:28.260
All right.
00:27:28.660
We just got a few more.
00:27:30.720
Schindler's List.
00:27:32.320
One of the hardest movies to watch.
00:27:34.640
Yes.
00:27:35.420
The other one is that I can, I've only watched it one time because I just can't bring myself
00:27:39.520
to watch it again is Lone Survivor.
00:27:42.300
Those two movies to me are must sees, but I just, I don't know if it's because I become
00:27:47.420
a dad and having kids now and watching the kids.
00:27:50.840
I just can't watch them like I used to.
00:27:52.520
So as you know, a couple of weeks ago I was at Normandy for the 80th anniversary of D-Day
00:27:58.380
and wildly enough I got to meet Steven Spielberg and Tom Hanks, which was really cool.
00:28:03.660
And I had pretty extended conversations with both of them and they've done, look, their
00:28:07.600
politics are both left of center, but they've done an amazing job really honoring and telling
00:28:12.480
the stories of the greatest generation, whether Saving Private Ryan, whether Band of Brothers,
00:28:18.640
whether The Pacific.
00:28:19.380
And so we're talking about that and I was talking with Spielberg about Schindler's List
00:28:24.720
and just, you know, talking with the heroes, the World War II heroes who almost all say,
00:28:33.420
well, I could have done more.
00:28:34.900
I could have done more and the real heroes are under those crosses behind us.
00:28:39.660
And I was telling Spielberg, I said, hearing them say that reminds me of the end of Schindler's
00:28:45.820
list where Oscar Schindler is like, I could have done more.
00:28:49.780
And he looks down at his gold watch and he said, this watch, this watch could have saved
00:28:53.560
three more people.
00:28:55.000
Three more people are dead because I kept my watch.
00:28:59.040
And you think about the heroism of his rescuing Jews from the Nazis and the incredible courage,
00:29:04.200
but at the same time, the like, why didn't I do even more?
00:29:07.940
And then that, that to me is the most beautiful moment of that movie is the, the, the, the sort
00:29:12.560
of.
00:29:13.560
Did I do enough?
00:29:14.660
Yeah.
00:29:16.700
Okay.
00:29:17.080
I'm going to take a detour, a detour to the world of musicals.
00:29:22.460
So I like musicals.
00:29:24.100
Do you like Broadway?
00:29:25.300
I do.
00:29:25.760
I love Broadway.
00:29:26.840
Absolutely.
00:29:27.280
So like you, if you go to New York, you would put it on your list to go see a show.
00:29:30.980
I love Broadway and I'm going to have four musicals on here.
00:29:33.920
I'm ready.
00:29:34.660
So number one is, is my father's favorite movie of all time, which is My Fair Lady.
00:29:40.180
Okay.
00:29:40.680
And My Fair Lady is fantastic.
00:29:42.880
I've seen it because of my mom and my sister multiple times.
00:29:46.080
Why can't the English?
00:29:47.200
I've never watched it outside of this.
00:29:48.020
Teach their children how to speak.
00:29:52.020
Norwegians learn Norwegians.
00:29:53.400
The Greeks are taught their Greek.
00:29:55.520
See, this is why I said this show would be entertaining because I would have never thought
00:29:59.760
you were a musical.
00:30:00.520
Oh.
00:30:00.980
It is spectacular.
00:30:02.120
Favorite Broadway show you've ever been to.
00:30:03.760
I'm going to get to that.
00:30:04.480
Okay, go ahead.
00:30:04.880
I'm going to get to that.
00:30:06.020
So the second one there is Oliver.
00:30:08.100
Yep.
00:30:09.300
Great.
00:30:10.420
Oliver is spectacular.
00:30:11.960
So look, I was, in high school, I was president of the drama club.
00:30:15.660
I have way too many one-liners, but I'll leave that for another show.
00:30:18.320
Keep going.
00:30:18.920
You were captain of the tennis team.
00:30:20.540
I was president of the drama club.
00:30:21.680
Okay, I get that.
00:30:22.620
There's a reason why you would have stuck me in the locker if we had known each other.
00:30:26.080
Yes, yes.
00:30:26.820
That would have gotten you a smackdown for sure.
00:30:29.100
Yeah, yeah.
00:30:29.240
But, so look, I, all politicians are frustrated actors.
00:30:34.180
It's just, it's just part of the, it is.
00:30:37.020
Did you act in high school?
00:30:37.880
Oh yes, a lot.
00:30:39.020
What were you in?
00:30:39.880
So I did.
00:30:40.860
Do we have eight tracks of this or what was it?
00:30:43.600
A beta cam?
00:30:44.280
Um, they, they, they're, they may be somewhere.
00:30:46.640
Okay.
00:30:47.280
Um, so let's see.
00:30:48.300
I've done Sound of Music twice.
00:30:50.220
What'd you play?
00:30:51.000
So I played, the first time I played Rolf.
00:30:53.560
Yeah.
00:30:54.360
Uh, you know, and I warbled out, you are 16 going on 17.
00:30:58.820
No way.
00:31:00.100
And then the second time I played Max.
00:31:01.640
Yep.
00:31:03.080
Um, I also, so I did Oliver and Oliver's a fabulous show.
00:31:09.200
It's a classic, yeah.
00:31:09.600
So Oliver was my senior year and the head of the music department told me, Hey, we're
00:31:13.660
doing Oliver next year.
00:31:14.680
And, and he said, you know, I'd love to have you play Fagin if you can sing it.
00:31:20.520
And, and my curse, look, I am a terrible singer.
00:31:22.900
I cannot carry a tune to save my, in a bucket.
00:31:26.380
Yeah.
00:31:26.480
Like, like, I wish I could.
00:31:28.440
I, I have singing envy.
00:31:29.220
You were not given that, neither was I.
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It, it, it, and so I actually went and for like six months I took voice lessons to try
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to get, be able to sing.
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Fagin is such a fabulous role.
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Did you get any better in the six months?
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A little bit.
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Yeah.
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And, and so what happened and the nice thing about Fagin is, is Fagin's songs.
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Fagin's songs are more spoken than sang.
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So for example, the song reviewing the situation, a man's got a heart, hasn't he?
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Joking apart, hasn't he?
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And though I'd be the first to admit that I wasn't a saint, I'm finding it hard to be
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really as bad.
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So you're going to see your dad next time.
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I'm going to say those six months is worth it now, right?
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But I'm reviewing the situation.
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Can a fellow be a villain all his life?
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All the trials.
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I now I'm not worried about you after you retire.
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I know what you're going to do.
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Better settle down and get myself a wife.
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And, uh.
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You remember it.
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Life will cook and sew for you and come for you and go for you and go for you and nag at
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you.
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The finger she will wag at you.
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How many tickets they sell for this is what I really want to know.
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So I prepared.
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That song was one.
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Now it's mostly spoken.
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It's not really.
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So I could do it marginally competently after six months practicing.
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I did that at the tryout.
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And then I say and then afterwards, music director said, hey, Ted, stick around.
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And he went to the piano and he said, sing this.
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And he went.
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And I went.
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And he did it like three times.
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He goes, OK.
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I'm like, damn it.
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Not happening.
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So I was cast as Bill Sykes.
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It's the second male lead with no singing.
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Yeah.
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It's a fun role.
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You're the villain.
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You get to, like, beat up Oliver Twist and like you're it.
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But but I wanted to give it your all.
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I wanted to play that role badly.
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And and I did not get it.
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All right.
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Two more musicals.
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Hamilton, which is utterly exquisite.
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I've seen it multiple times.
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It is brilliant.
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It is beautiful.
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It is powerful.
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My girls know the songs.
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There are few things that make me happier than when my daughters are singing songs from
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Hamilton.
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I mean, it was there was a period where they were obsessed with it.
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You and I were talking about this the other day.
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My dad, I took him to New York for the first time ever for his 70th birthday.
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And you said, did you go see a show?
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And I was like, do you want to see Hamilton?
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He's like, I'd rather go to the Yankees game.
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And then the next night I was like, would you say, I'd rather have a nice meal.
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I tried hard.
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I tried to get him to Hamilton.
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It just wasn't on the list.
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And then my favorite music of all time is Les Mis.
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Really?
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And I love Les Mis.
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I think.
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Do you get choked up?
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Be honest.
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Because I'm a sucker for those things.
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I get the lump in the throat.
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I get completely choked up.
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Yeah.
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All right.
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So what song gets you choked up?
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Oh, the one that the most famous.
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I'm terrible with.
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And it's the one that Anne Hathaway does.
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It's so good.
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Oh, and she won the Academy Award for it.
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Every time it gets me.
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So that is beautiful.
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I'll tell you, the two that get me choked up are number one when John Valjean is saying,
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let him live.
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Yep.
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And he's looking down, and he says, you know, if I die, let me die.
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Yeah.
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Let him live.
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Yeah.
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And it's a prayer to God to let him live.
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Every time.
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I have tears every time.
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And the other one that gets me is the song Empty Chairs and Empty Tables at the end when
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everyone has died.
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And I will confess at the end of the presidential campaign in 2016, as I walked through the empty
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campaign office and I saw the empty chairs and empty tables, I heard the refrains of that
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song.
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So Les Mis is exquisite.
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All right.
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By the way, when I was, all right, so 1993, I was just finished my first year of law school
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and I had a job in New York.
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I was working in a law firm in New York for the summer.
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And I decided to fly my mom to New York for the weekend.
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And so it's 1993.
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So I actually FedExed a plane ticket.
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And this is back when a plane ticket was a piece of cardboard.
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I FedExed a plane ticket to her with nothing else.
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It was literally, she opened the FedEx package and just a plane ticket to New York fell out.
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And she called me and she's like, Ted, I assume this is you.
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I said, yeah.
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I had no note, no nothing, just a plane ticket and the FedEx thing.
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Get on the plane.
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I'll see you soon, mom.
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So I flew her to New York and we went out to dinner at Boulay, which at the time was
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the nicest restaurant in New York, was fabulous.
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And then I took her one night to see Camelot, which was really fun.
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Yep.
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And then the next night to see Les Mis.
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And did she love it?
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She loved it.
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And I...
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That's one of those ironed memories for us in life.
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Yeah.
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No, no, that was just very cool to go do that.
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All right.
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So we have a total of three more.
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I'm going to say The Magnificent Seven.
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Incredible.
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Watched it 10 times.
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The original one.
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Yes, with my dad.
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All right, all right.
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That's like in my dad's, like, I grew up on John Wayne and war movies.
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Yeah, like Magnificent Seven.
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And that was like, I remember watching it with him.
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Other than Unforgiven, Magnificent Seven is the greatest Western that's actually originally
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in a Western.
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Unforgiven was sort of a modern remake format, but Magnificent Seven, exquisite with, you
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know, Ewell Brenner and Charles Bronson and James Coburn.
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Oh, when Mom was out of town, that was one of the movies we watched.
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Oh, it was so good.
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It's a fabulous movie.
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And then I'm going to end with two.
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Quentin Tarantino.
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Is it the Inglorious Bastards?
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Is that where we're going with this?
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So I'm going to start with Pulp Fiction.
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Okay.
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Which is fantastic.
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And then the last one is Inglorious Bastards.
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Yep.
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And I feel bad that I left Reservoir Dogs off because Reservoir Dogs is exquisite too.
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But the other ones are above, yeah.
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But if you made me pick two, I go with Pulp Fiction and Inglorious.
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Inglorious Bastards is a spectacular movie.
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Spectacular movie.
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So that's 25 movies, which if you've got some down time, download them, watch them.
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You will enjoy them.
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You will laugh.
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You will be moved.
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You will be.
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And send your critiques on Twitter.
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We'll take them.
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And let me ask you one other question.
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If you could only take one movie and one TV series to a desert island with you, what would
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you pick?
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Only one movie and only one TV series.
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That's all you got to watch.
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The Princess Bride and Criminal Minds.
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There you go.
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That's it.
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Yeah.
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I like it.
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