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Verdict with Ted Cruz
- July 23, 2021
Something Is Rotten in the State of Cuba
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This is an iHeart Podcast.
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Guaranteed human.
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An oppressed people is attempting to flee a tyrannical regime,
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fleeing toward freedom,
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but the Texas Democrats are being pulled back to their own state.
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This is Verdict with Ted Cruz.
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Welcome back to Verdict with Ted Cruz.
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I'm Michael Knowles.
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I think something's going on in Cuba as well.
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We'll get to that a little bit later.
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But Senator, first, I've got to ask you about those poor Texas Democrats.
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There's a voting rights bill going through Texas right now.
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The Democrats didn't have the numbers to stop this Republican bill.
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And so they just left the state.
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You know, I got to say, it's striking.
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And it really is typical of Cuban refugees
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that they jump on a private jet with Miller Lite
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and basking in national press coverage.
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They truly are heroic.
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Kamala Harris compared them to the civil rights protesters on the Edmund Pettus Bridge.
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If you take away the cops and the dogs and the billy clubs and the bleedings and the broken bones
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and you replace it with a private jet and Miller Lite, they're exactly the same.
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And there is a little bit of an irony here where the Texas Democrats are fleeing a bill
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that would, in part, require you to show an ID to vote.
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They needed the ID to buy the Miller Lite, which was famously photographed on their voyage.
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And to get on the damn plane.
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And to get on the—yes, even for private.
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That's true.
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They would still need to show their ID, but they didn't have their masks.
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By the way, all these Democrats want to mandate masks on planes.
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None of them had masks on planes.
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So this was a ridiculous—I mean, a really—not great PR.
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You see all these Texas Dems fleeing.
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But what is the legal aspect here?
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I mean, why do they need to flee the state to stop this bill?
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Well, listen, this is a political stunt.
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And they flew to Washington because they knew that they would get a bear hug from Joe Biden
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and Kamala Harris and Schumer and Pelosi and all the Democrats and all the media.
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And they would treat them, you know, what a chance to be.
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I'm Martin Luther King.
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I'm fleeing the state.
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What nobody talks about is what actually the Texas Election Integrity Bill does.
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So what's in the bill?
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So it's a series of common sense steps.
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For example, it requires signatures and signature verification on absentee ballots.
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It requires an ID for absentee ballots.
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It requires cameras in counting spaces so that when people are counting the ballots,
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you'll have a recorded record of it.
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There's a reason nobody talks about these because everyone hears them and goes,
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well, OK, that makes a lot of sense.
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Democrats have decided it's good politics.
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Number one, I think they believe voter fraud helps them get elected.
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But number two, screaming about voter suppression, I think they believe helps them get elected
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as well.
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And so they want to do everything they can to portray Republicans as a bunch of crazy
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Klansmen.
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Yeah, racist.
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And so that's their narrative.
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They're sticking with it.
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So there are a lot of surveys out on this that show broad support for voter ID and basically
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all of it.
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And you know, it's gone up.
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It used to be 70 percent of Americans supported voter ID.
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It's now over 80 percent.
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So it's so all of their histrionics have driven up support by 10 points.
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And it's got broad support among all demographics.
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It's not just white people.
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It's not among black voters.
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You know, but Kamala did explain that that, you know, minorities are not smart enough to
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get an ID.
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You know, Hispanics, you know, we Hispanics, we don't know how to do these fancy driver's
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licenses.
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And I love that she explained, you know, the country folk.
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Yeah.
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They don't have this fancy technology.
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You know, if you're out there that there are no no copy machines, there's no electricity,
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there's no smartphones, because, listen, country folk, they're making moonshine and they're
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sliding on the hoods of their cars.
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That's all they're doing, because Kamala really has her finger on the pulse of rural
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America.
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But this this is what what is so strange to me about about the whole episode is this is
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an issue that is really popular.
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Right.
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Right.
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He's very popular.
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Majority of people, vast majority of people want it.
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The Democrats have come out against it.
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They've said a lot of things, wittingly or unwittingly, that is very insulting to the
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base here.
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And they seem to be undermining democracy in the sense that the voters of Texas send their
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representatives to the legislature.
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They the legislators are passing this bill.
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The Democrats don't have any legal way to stop it.
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So then, as far as I can tell, they violate the law by leaving the state.
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So in order for the legislature to do business, you have to have a quorum.
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And so the reason they they fled the state is to deny a quorum.
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So there's not right now a quorum in the House of Representatives.
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Now, interestingly enough, I have some history on this issue.
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So I started as Solicitor General of Texas in 2003.
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2003, the Republicans had just taken the House of Representatives and they began to do congressional
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redistricting.
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The Democrats didn't want them to do congressional redistricting.
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Now, the reason was at the time, Texas had what what had been widely reported as and was,
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in fact, the most partisan gerrymander in the country done by Democrats.
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So even though Texas was voting by a big margin Republican, its congressional delegation was
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had a large majority of Democrats because they had very creatively gerrymandered it.
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So a Republican state elected a majority of Democrats.
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It's strange because Republicans are always the ones accused of the gerrymandering.
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But it's both parties do this sort of thing.
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Oh, and it's shameless.
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And actually, we had testimony in the trial over redistricting about there was a way Southern
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Democrats would gerrymander, which is you draw a district that had just enough African-American
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voters, but not too many, and just enough Hispanic voters, but not too many.
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Why would they do this?
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Because their objective was to elect a white Democrat.
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And what the data showed is if you put too many African-American Democrats in a district,
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they'd elect a black Democrat.
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If you put too many Hispanic Democrats in a district, they'd elect an Hispanic Democrat.
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The people drawing this didn't want a black Democrat or Hispanic Democrat.
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They wanted a white Democrat.
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So what they would do is they'd shrink those two numbers.
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And in a primary, if you had, say, a black Democrat against a white Democrat,
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the white Democrats and the Hispanic Democrats would both vote for the white guy.
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And so the white guy would win.
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If you had an Hispanic Democrat versus a white Democrat,
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the white Democrats and the black Democrats would vote against the Hispanic Democrat.
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And so you'd get the white Democrat win.
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Yeah.
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The primary.
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And then in the general, the Hispanic Democrats and black Democrats would vote for whoever the
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Democratic nominee was.
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And so it was a and by the way, all of this came as testimony in the redistricting trial
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from Eddie Bernice Johnson, who is an African-American woman, a congresswoman who was a state senator,
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was fighting against the redistricting, saying black Democrats are getting screwed by these
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white Democrats.
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So that's that's the back story of why Texas was redistricting.
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The Texas Democrats didn't want them to redistrict.
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They liked a Republican state sending Democrats to Congress.
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So they did the same thing.
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I mean, fleeing the state is not new.
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The House Democrats, they went up to Ardmore, Oklahoma.
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The Senate Democrats later went to Albuquerque, New Mexico for the exact same purpose,
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to deny a quorum, to shut down the legislature.
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So I was, you know, just a few weeks into the job.
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It just started.
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And the Speaker of the House, a guy named Tom Craddock, who is a tough old West Texan knife
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fighter.
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Tom calls Greg Abbott, who was the attorney general.
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He's now the governor, but he was my boss.
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And he calls Abbott and says, can I arrest fleeing legislators?
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And Abbott in turn calls me and says, Ted, can Craddock arrest fleeing legislators?
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And I said, General, I don't know.
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Let me go research it and I'll figure it out.
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So I go research it.
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Turns out there's a clear answer to this.
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So the Texas Constitution has a provision that explicitly authorizes compelling the
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attendance of absent legislators.
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That provision in turn is copied word for word from the U.S. Constitution.
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So the U.S. Constitution has the exact same provision.
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And there's a long history, particularly in Congress, of using that to order the arrest
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of fleeing legislators and to bring them in.
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The authority is there literally to bring them in, if necessary, in handcuffs and leg irons.
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Bob Packwood was brought in, physically carried onto the floor of the Senate because he was
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trying to defeat a quorum.
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And they, the sergeant at arms, physically carried him to produce him there.
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All of which is to say, how does this Texas Democrat stunt end?
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It's going to end eventually.
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They're going to come back to Texas.
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They're in D.C. right now, I assume, going to Georgetown cocktail parties.
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Although three of them now have COVID, which is, proves God really does have a sense of him.
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They should put their masks on.
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But eventually they'll come back to Texas.
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Abbott, the governor, has said he'll keep calling special sessions over and over again
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until they pass voter integrity laws.
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And they're going to arrest him when they come back.
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And so whenever they come back, they will be arrested.
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Now, look, it's important to know, it's not arrest to go to jail.
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It's not a crime.
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It's not sending them to Sing Sing.
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It is physically, if necessary, seizing them and moving their bodies to the floor of the
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House because that gives you a quorum.
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And the reason the Texas Constitution and the U.S. Constitution give you this power is you
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shouldn't have the right to shut down the operation of the legislature.
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The legislature exists to do the will of the people.
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And these Democrats are trying to pull a political stunt to stop them from doing the will of the
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people.
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It's just so ironic that the people who are always clamoring on about our democracy and
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the threats to our democracy are, in this case, actively stopping the operation of the
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legislature, of the lawmakers.
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So you've got this scene playing out in Texas.
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And by the way, they want to kill policies that the overwhelming majority of voters support.
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So voter ID, we talked about 80 percent of Americans support them in Congress.
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So these Texas Democrats are lobbying for S1, the Corrupt Politicians Act.
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That bill would strike down every voter ID law in the country.
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Eighty percent of Americans support it.
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So when you see Democrats saying, you know, we want to protect the right to vote unless
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these pesky people vote for things we don't like, like voter ID, then to heck with the
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right to vote.
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We're going to strike it down anyway.
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I mean, that's that's the Democratic position.
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Well, there is this strange fact.
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And I think it actually ties down to our neighbors 90 miles south.
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You've got policies like voter ID.
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You've got policies like immigration reform, where the vast majority of Americans want to
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have voter ID and want less immigration.
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And the vast majority of people in the ruling class don't want voter ID and want more immigration,
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legal and illegal, I guess, in many cases.
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So how is that the case?
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How does the ruling party, the uniparty, the regime, whatever you want to call it, why is
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it that this elite group is able to and is even desirous of so undermining the will of
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the people in our democracy?
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So the two issues are a little bit different in that when it comes to illegal immigration,
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you're right that every Democrat and about half the Republicans want unlimited illegal
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immigration.
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And it is it is the uniparty.
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It is the elected members of Congress who are basically in bed with big business and want
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cheap labor.
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Yeah.
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Voter ID, the politics are a little bit different because it is essentially every
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Democrat who wants to get rid of voter ID and every Republican wants to keep it.
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So there's not you don't have this big block of Republicans that are wobbly on voter ID.
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You know, why do the Dems want to get rid of voter ID?
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To be honest, I don't know.
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It's to steal elections, right?
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I mean, not to be too blunt about it.
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Yes and no.
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There are disputes about how widespread election fraud is.
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It's now, you know, we now see Democrats in the media saying it never, ever, ever happens,
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which is absurd.
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There are real disputes about how widespread it is.
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I don't know.
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So the Democrats opposition to voter ID is one of two things.
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Either one, they know it's really widespread.
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Yeah.
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And they have operations in to bring massive numbers of illegal aliens and get them to vote.
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And that's why they don't want voter ID.
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That's one hypothesis that is consistent with why do you go to the mat to try to defeat voter ID?
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The other hypothesis is that there's some voter fraud concerning voter ID, but that it's a good
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issue, they believe, to inflame African-American voters.
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Because the idea is Republicans are only supporting voter ID because black voters are going to have
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more trouble or it's maybe, yeah.
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Because if you're a Democrat scaring black voters, that voter suppression is happening, that
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Republicans are Klansmen, that they are Bull Connor.
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Now, never mind Bull Connor was a Democrat.
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Never mind that the people that wrote Jim Crow were Democrats.
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Never mind that the people that founded the Ku Klux Klan were Democrats.
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Never mind that all of these racists who committed horrific acts were almost without exception
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Democrats.
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Today's Democratic Party, they have one game plan.
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You know, you remember when George W. Bush was running for president and you had James
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Byrd, an African-American who had been dragged to his death in Jasper, Texas.
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It was a horrific crime.
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Now, the people who did that were sentenced to death.
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I mean, like they were caught, they were prosecuted, they were sentenced to death.
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The NAACP ran an ad, a TV ad, attacking George W. Bush with images of the chains dragging
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behind the car, basically blaming him for this horrific racist murder.
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And in fact, if you remember, you're too young to remember this debate, but I'll tell you.
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So I was a policy staffer on the Bush campaign.
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And I remember the debate that Bush has with Gore, where Gore hits him on it and basically
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blames him for this horrible racist murder.
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And Bush goes, well, we sentenced him to death.
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What else do you want us to do besides put him to death?
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But that is their game plan, election after election.
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So part of this hysteria from Democrats over voter ID is, I think, they want to scream voter
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suppression because they want critical to their winning elections is having African-American voters
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terrified, energized, showing up in massive numbers and voting overwhelmingly Democrat.
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And if black voters were voting their economic interests, the policies of Democrats are terrible
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for the African-American community.
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If black voters were voting for who's going to provide hope in education, school choice,
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the policies of the Democrats are terrible for the black community.
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Under Donald Trump, we had the lowest African-American unemployment, the lowest African-American
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poverty in history.
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Those are really inconvenient facts if you're Democrats trying to get monolithic support
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for black voters.
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So what do you do?
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You paint this specter of voter suppression.
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I think it's much of it, I think, is a really cynical political strategy.
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And there's a strange circumstance.
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So we're in Florida right now, 90 miles south.
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There are massive protests going on, the government in Cuba, the communist dictatorship clamping down.
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So you've got elite people, you know, people who are part of the media, people who are
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part of the political establishment here, decrying the oppression of America, denigrating the
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American flag, saying it's a symbol of hatred.
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Meanwhile, the people in Cuba who are protesting their own government are waving the American
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flag.
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I visited Cuba a few years ago.
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People wear the American flag as a symbol of protest.
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I knew there was something shady about you, Michael.
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You know, I was trying to stir up the revolution even then.
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But this is a very strange circumstance.
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Did you get any Che Guevara tattoos?
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I was going to I was going to wear the there's a shirt of Che Guevara wearing a Che Guevara
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shirt.
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I think that's, you know, that was put out by the onion or something like that, because
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it it's become so popular.
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I mean, American students wear Cuban revolutionaries all the time.
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Now, now the Biden administration refuses to call out any of this.
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They're talking about the evil oppression of the Texas Republicans, but they won't mention
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the word communism and Mayorkas, the the DHS secretary, is saying, do not if you're fleeing
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Cuba, do not come to the United States, even as we're having the highest levels of illegal
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immigration, often encouraged by Democrats from other countries.
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Look, what what's happening in Cuba is an existential threat to the Biden administration.
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And they're scared.
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You know, I got to say my reaction, and we've talked a lot about my family story on this
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pod, but my reaction watching it, it's powerful seeing people who are standing up and protesting,
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taking to the streets and in Havana and Matanzas, which is where my dad was born, Santiago, across
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across the country.
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And the folks who are protesting are risking their lives and they're right now and they're
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they're being killed, they're being beaten, they're being tortured.
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I mean, I mean, it is it is an act of incredible courage to stand up against this regime.
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Watching the reaction of Democrats is surreal.
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So the Biden administration is rooting for the communist regime.
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Yeah.
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But by the way, I don't think that's hyperbole.
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Yeah, they're they're now blaming it on a lack of covid vaccines or, quote unquote,
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economic mismanagement.
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They're not coming out and calling for a regime change in Cuba or talking about communism.
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They seem to be on the side of the regime.
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Well, and listen, one of their foreign policy objectives is to have an embrace of the Cuban
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communist dictatorship.
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That was Obama's Obama.
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That is a big foreign policy objective.
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So does Biden.
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You know, when they're actively beating protesters in the street, it makes it hard for them to
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carry out their foreign policy objective as saying, aren't they really nice communists?
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So that's one factor.
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That's just another factor that today's Democratic Party likes communists.
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They glorify.
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These are the kids who in college had Che Guevara T-shirts on.
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Right.
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I mean, that's their ethos.
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And so you look at Biden administration put out their kind of first statement they put
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out as a tweet said they're exercising their right to peaceful assembly.
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It's like, no, they don't have a right to peaceful assembly.
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And the stormtroopers who come beat them show they don't have that right.
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They are standing up in the face of tyranny.
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But the Biden admin doesn't say that.
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And then the second thing they said that was particularly funny, they said it was all
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about access to covid vaccines.
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It's like, no, they are chanting libertad.
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They're chanting freedom, liberty.
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They're chanting down with the dictatorship.
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Jen Psaki, her, you know, statement that they're upset about mismanagement.
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The protesters aren't chanting manage better.
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Yeah, like this is dumb.
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And so you got to stop and ask, OK, why?
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Why are they doing this?
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It's not that that that Psaki or Biden or Blinken, it's not that these people are stupid.
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It's that what they believe is in conflict with speaking the truth of what about what's
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happening.
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They don't want to condemn communists.
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You're saying the existential threat posed by the Cuban protests to the Biden administration
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is it that it undermines their own ideological.
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So there are different aspects of it.
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You take the Bernie Sanders of the world and Elizabeth Warren's and AOC's, the avowed
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socialists.
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Did did did space aliens like capture them and spirit them away like these guys have been
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utterly silent.
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Why is it?
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Because they're socialists and the Cuban dictatorial government is socialist.
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And they don't like admitting that every place on Earth that you've had socialist dictatorships
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have been murdering, torturing, abusive, oppressive regimes.
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It's it's inconvenient.
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If you're an American socialist saying we want socialism here, watching how crappy socialism
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is in Cuba makes that argument tough.
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So the the hard left that's driving the Democratic Party, they hate this right now.
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Biden can't denounce communism without pissing off the left in his party.
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And he probably wouldn't anyway.
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He can't stand strongly with the protesters because their foreign policy objective is to
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get in bed with the stormtroopers that are beating them right now.
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And they're also terrified of a massive wave of immigration from Cuba.
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And it's twofold on that.
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Number one, you know, Mayorka is saying no Cubans.
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Yeah, right.
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Mind you, across the southern border, we're on pace for over two million people to cross
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illegally this year.
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And they're like something like one hundred eighty thousand or one hundred eighty eight
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thousand people in June alone.
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I mean, that's a shocking, shocking.
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It's over a 400 percent increase from last year.
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The numbers are staggering and it's pure open borders on a southern border.
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But Mayorka stands up and says, we don't want Cubans.
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Look, do you think anyone told them that Cubans vote Republican?
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I mean, it kind of makes you think that might be a factor there.
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But they're also looking.
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I've talked a lot about Biden as Jimmy Carter 2.0.
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The Mario boat lift is very real in terms of, you know, there was this massive influx of
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Cuban refugees on boats.
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And by the way, what what Castro did.
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So he said, you can bring your boats over to take people out of Cuba and tons of people
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came from Miami, brought their family over.
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What Castro did, he emptied the jails.
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And the lunatic asylum.
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So he put crazy people in criminals.
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You see the movie Scarface?
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Yeah.
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Like Scarface is about, you know, one of those criminals that he stuck on a boat and sent
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over.
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You know, I mean, it's Scarface, by the way.
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One of my top three all time favorite movies.
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Ravenga!
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And actually, Scarface, they're chanting Libertad, Libertad.
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They're not chanting COVID vaccines.
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COVID vaccines.
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It's not.
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It would be anachronistic and they wouldn't do it anyway.
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By the way, there's also a great scene where Manolo is talking to this very pretty girl
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in a bikini and Tony goes to this little kid and says, hey, look over there.
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You see that guy?
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He's going to stick his tongue out like that.
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He's going to stick his tongue.
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What is that?
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Like a lizard or something.
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There are lots of lines in that movie I can do.
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Most of which would elevate the rating of this podcast and might make it no longer child
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friendly.
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Well, you know, they always say Republicans need to go more on the offensive.
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They need to get more aggressive.
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And I can imagine no better way than through our rhetoric and through the instruments of
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politics to say, say hello to my little friend, which would be obviously the legislative
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actions in Texas.
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I knew I could prompt you into a Tony Montana impression.
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Yes.
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I mean, this, I, you know, I was wondering what the effect was in Cuba because look, I care
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about Cuba.
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I like Cuban culture.
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I have Cuban friends, but I think a lot of Americans, they want to know, what does this
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mean for us?
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What does this mean for the United States?
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I think Michael just did a, some of my best friends are Cuban.
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Some of my best friends, but it, I mean, you, you are seeing the, the working out of
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real ideological problems and hypocrisy on illegal immigration.
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They're saying surge to the border.
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If you're statistically likely to vote for Democrats and please do not come.
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And by the way, one of the objections here is they'll say, well, the reason they're telling
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the Cubans not to come is because the passage is very dangerous.
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If you swim or take a raft from Cuba to Florida, as if crossing the Southern border
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is a cakewalk.
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You know, it seems to me the solution is to send a private jet with Miller Lite.
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Yes, that's the only, that's the only way out of it to flee the, the oppression, oppression
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real in some places and imagined in others.
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We have to leave it there, Senator, but I'm sure there will be many more developments,
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hopefully, hopefully on the side of Liberdade.
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